February 25, 2025 • 40 mins
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We explore the intricate relationship between the heart, mind, and body, emphasizing the need for self-awareness in navigating our lives and experiences. Discover how understanding our emotional and spiritual selves can lead to a more profound journey of healing and personal growth.
• Understanding the balance of body, mind, and spirit
• Exploring how experiences convert into wisdom through the heart's guidance
• The significance of the heart in health and emotional well-being
• Addressing hormonal and nervous system balance for mental clarity
• Utilizing personal relationships as mirrors for self-discovery
• Discussing the importance of simplicity in holistic healing
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hello, this is Blair Stanislao with the Happy Lion
Center.
Welcome to our podcast Mysticaland Infamous, where we have
playful and easy conversationsabout anything mystical, getting
to the heart of all things,strange and weird.
Join us in a bit of magicaltomfoolery, spreading the
alchemy of love and light.
And now we invite you to enjoythe show.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
I am curious to know did you write a book yet?
Speaker 1 (00:36):
No, I haven't.
I get that question a lot.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
And what stopped you from it?
Just because my journey hasbeen a very ever-evolving
process and I've always feltlike, of course, you could write
a book and then you do anupdate version of it, right, as
things change.
But, uh, I never, I neverwanted to put a book out there
(00:57):
and feel like I'm bound or stuckto what I write about, the
principles in the book For me.
I want to ever evolve, I wantto ever evolve, I want to ever
change.
So in that way, the wholedynamic of writing a book just
didn't appeal in regards to that.
But, uh, but I've got to saythat, you know, in the last
(01:21):
probably year especially, thatthings are starting to become.
Yes, it's still evolving inmany ways, but we're kind of
hitting very focal, centralprinciples or knowings, or
(01:42):
understandings of what I do andwhat I provide.
So that is on the horizon inregards to a book, um, and it
just didn't feel right, you know, before now, yeah, to look at
that, because it just felt likeit was a medium, that because I
see so many people, not so muchin the energy world, but many
(02:02):
people in the health worldespecially nutrition and those
sorts of things and diet, likethey've written a book and then
themselves have had a healthcrisis because they've stuck to
what the book adheres to.
It's like it's become areligion, so to speak.
Um, so I never wanted to putmyself in that situation, right?
(02:26):
And then all of a suddenthere's a backlash of people
going off, but in the book yousay this and now you're saying
you didn't, you're sick andyou're doing this now, you know.
So I always felt what I provideis a medium that is ever
evolving.
So I just felt like the bookoption was just not an option.
(02:49):
But uh, but I'm warming to it.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Let's just say that I know exactly what you're
referring to.
However, um, there are ways towrite that eliminate what you're
talking about, and I'm notsaying that it's like it's
because language, you know, isso 3D, right, for lack of a
(03:14):
better description, and it'sconfining.
We're never taught tonecessarily write like that, but
, given at least given myexperience with marketing and so
forth, I have just the thingsI've done, I've I've learned to
recognize oh no, don't put thatword in there, why?
Because that dates it, orbecause that you know that that
(03:35):
makes it feel even moreconstricted than it really is,
and so you don't, you may not,have statements that are as
clear, clear, cut per se, likeyou know it's.
It's really very similar to thebeing working in this, in this
field where, um, somebody askedme one time oh, they were, they
(03:57):
were talking about how do you,essentially, how do you know if
somebody's under hypnosis?
Speaker 2 (04:01):
and the way I came to describe it is like it's this
really strange combination ofvague and very specific at the
same time yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, because it's keeping it
very open-ended in many ways,right, so people can, um, kind
(04:22):
of decipher what they want totake from it themselves, right?
So yeah, because when I look atmy social media, you know, in
regards to the posts, all thethings I'm writing up, because
it's just not we're not justputting out a meme, right, or
something that you know, a bodyof work that someone else has
(04:42):
put across.
A lot of it's stuff that youknow comes through me.
So I get a lot of people thatask me and go hey, I saw your
article the other day, or whatyou're talking about in a
session.
You know, where do I go?
Where's a book that you canrecommend I go?
There's no book that camethrough me, so it didn't come
from a book.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Oh, they're asking for a reference, asking for a
reference, asking for areference.
So my question is when they'reasking you for a reference, do
you feel like they're asking youfor a reference so that they
can go entertain their mind withthat, or are they asking
because they want more of thatidea to come through?
Speaker 2 (05:19):
I think, but both.
But I think definitely with thefact that they want to um, in
their own personal time toexplore that, to learn more
about that, which which is areally good thing.
You know, that's something thatI encourage with with them.
But uh, if you amass all thestuff that are written, you know
(05:39):
, over a period of time, that'slike, well, there's, there's
probably a number of bookswithin that, you know.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
But yeah, well, I, what I like about the way that
you speak about things, whetherit's in written form or not, um,
is, I don't know.
I just feel like you have thisvery clear picture of, in a
sense, it's more like astructure of kind of the way
quote, quote the world, meaningour experience of whatever we
are here, right, whatever thatis and how it functions, and
(06:08):
it's a different perspective.
So, and I'm learning that thisis essentially just the way that
I see things like.
The way I perceive them is whenyou speak.
There's an image that's veryclear about what things are and
what things aren't.
And I almost want to say canyou paint the painting?
So we can, you know, like justso that they see that and
(06:30):
perceive it, even just and takeit in, you know?
Speaker 2 (06:34):
well, I'm very aware that you know I'm talking about.
In some ways, it might be theuh alternative of the
alternative or the extreme ofthe extreme, but in the end, my
job is not fulfilled unless theperson understands, right so,
where I'm coming from toeveryday life, right, everyday
(07:02):
world for people, and useanalogies, uh, to simplify and
keep it simple, because I feellike in the world that we live
in today, thanks to the internet, there's really infinite
sources of information.
So it's more about how we canapply that information and how
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we can understand it right so,and how it applies to our
everyday life, which means, then, how we can use that right to
its maximum potential.
So so, yeah, you know infinitesources of information, but I
still feel there's a lack ofknowing and understanding still
out there.
So I really like to let myclients know that, okay, I might
(07:49):
be reaching into some extremeshere, especially if this is new
to them, because there's manyclients that are like, yeah, I
know what you're talking aboutstraight away, but put it in a
simple fashion and make itsimple and understandable,
because the more advanced we'regoing to become is what I'm
(08:12):
finding is to actually makethings more simpler, and I feel
like a lot of the way that we'reconditioned as humans is to
perceive that our advancementsgoing to be more complicated
stuff.
And for me there's so muchcomplicated stuff out there that
(08:32):
people are aware of but theydon't know much about it or
knowing or an understanding ofhow it works and because it's
kind of presented in a verycomplex way.
It's like an example is DNA andgenetics.
So anyone knows that, wow, dnaand genetics and getting into
genes and all sorts of things,it's wow, it's pretty extreme
(08:54):
and it's pretty out there.
It's like no way I canunderstand that right.
But at Truly Holistic we put itin a really simple format to
make it nice and simple, becausefor me the core aspects of life
are simple.
It's just that the way we'vebeen conditioned to process what
we perceive, we put it in acomplicated state.
(09:19):
We change something that'ssimple and what we could say is
simply what is.
Change something that's simpleand what we could say is simply
what is, and then, through ourunderstanding of mind, thought,
mentality, we tend to translateit into a very complex, uh thing
.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
You know that that originally wasn't yeah, I agree
completely and actually, um, I,whatever, yeah, I'm just gonna
call it channeling, becausethat's what the new hot term is
right, when you're connected andyou're getting your information
.
I found it way simpler, likethree words maximum or something
(09:59):
, and it's you know, and thenthe other people are just
nonstop and you're like, okay,it's still these three words,
you know.
The answer is still right here,right there at the beginning.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Yeah, I'll let the analogy yeah, and sometimes
it'll be just a word someonesays and I'm just like and
because you know, when you getinto channeling and you get more
into that knowing right, thatintuitive, intuition aspect, you
get very aware by, you've gotmore self-awareness, right.
There's always things comingacross you and trying to your
(10:30):
words, uh, topics, things you'relooking at, and a lot of people
just shrug them off becausethey don't have the awareness
right, the self-awareness to.
Oh, that's that's interesting,let's explore that more.
So it might be just a word,word that someone brings up.
You're like oh, that heightenssomething I'm gonna look at,
look into that a little bit more, right.
Um, so things like that arereally important.
(10:55):
I like to actually use ananalogy, like, as you mentioned,
that it can be just, you know,people might say something in a
certain way but, as you say,it's like these three words that
just keep coming up, or acommon theme.
And the analogy I like to useis you know, you can bake so
many different cakes, but everycake, the, the main three or
(11:18):
four ingredients are all thesame, essentially right.
So so it's this aspect that youknow.
People are like oh, this is aamazing that this is this cake.
And this is this cake becausewe compartmentalize all these
different things, which thencreates the complexity, but
really, at the basis, thefoundation of all those things,
all those variables, are thesame, it's the same thing, and a
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lot of times that baseline isthe cause to the effect, right
On the effect level, which forpeople, when they're dealing
with a health problem, is thesymptoms they're getting, right,
which is really the bodyexpressing itself, which I call
the effect.
Okay, but there's a cause tothat effect, right.
(12:05):
And and generally, where we'reconditioned out of mind, thought
, mentality, we chase the effectwithout, with a lack of knowing
or understanding of the causeto that effect, right, and the
effect's only there because of acause, right.
So, so a lot of the times, thecause to the effect, the cause,
is always going to be a lot moresimple than the effect, because
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the effect comes out as so manydifferent symptoms in so many
different parts of the body.
Hence they're expressed indifferent areas of the body and
there could be so many variablesin play with that and hence the
complexity of oh, I've got todeal with that, I've got to deal
with that, I've got to dealwith that.
It's a bit like in the medicalsystem I was talking to someone
(12:51):
about the other day.
You know, you get started onone medication and then you
start to get deficiencies orside effects out of that one
medication.
So within six months now you'reon five medications, right?
So all these differentvariables all show up when we go
to the cause.
It's bring things back into amore singular fashion where we
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simplify.
And the cool thing about thatis you're not chasing a fact
like you're trimming thebranches off a plant.
You're going straight to thecause to pull the roots of the
plant out.
So you know, and and it'salways going to be simpler the
complexity comes out of chasingthe effect right and working on
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the effect, which really ourconventional modern medical
system is based on treating theeffect, focusing on the effect,
and that's why so many peopleare going oh, I get this all the
time, right, I went and saw mydoctor and they say I've got
this and they're not unsure.
Now I went to another expert orspecialist and they say this it
(13:57):
doesn't fit with the otherperson because they're all
working in that effect level.
They don't have the knowing orunderstanding of the cause to
the effect.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
Yeah, so correct me if I'm wrong, but I feel like,
um, and we're all in bodies,we're all in the same boat with
that, yeah, yeah, but I feellike I keep getting the message
over and over and even as you'retalking, it was coming through.
(14:27):
The cause is always on somelevel, not?
Yeah, let's see how do I saythis, not living from the heart
or acknowledge some part of yeah, very much so.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
And also what I would say about that, that really the
, the cause or the origin ofeverything is in the unseen
doesn't mean it's notinfluencing the same.
It is right, because a lot ofpeople will kind of say, hey,
let's compartmentalize, we'vegot body over here and we've got
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spirit over here.
No, you don't compartmentalizethe two, because they're
associated with each other.
Right, each part, eachcomponent, each faction needs
the other.
Yes, so, and our spirit, oursoul, is the heart.
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The heart facilitates that.
A lot of work that we've been,that I've been doing of late,
probably the last few monthsespecially, is looking into
conception, the word conception,right, which is talking about
origin and talking about thosetwo factions.
Funnily enough, right, theconcept, because there's two
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conceptions for us.
There's the conception of thebody.
Right, which is the conceptionthat essentially everyone knows
about.
Right, we don't have to go intogreat depth without that.
Right, a man and a woman cometogether.
Right, which you could see is aman is one polarity, a woman
the other polarity.
And when you bring thosepolarities together, it creates
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this little zone in the middleof the overlapping of the two,
which we call a state ofconception or a state of
neutrality.
Neutrality means balance, okay,um, actually I'll show you a
whether we're doing video.
I'm probably just doing audiofor the call, but I'm going to
show you here.
(16:31):
Blair is uh, so this is tworings overlapping.
Yes yeah, so we see this as thegeometry or symbol of conception
, where each ring and that isone is the polarities right.
So two polarities make dualityright and dualities.
Though when those twopolarities are apart from each
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other they're opposing eachother.
But when we bring thosepolarities together it creates
that lovely vesica Piscesgeometry in the middle, which is
neutrality, it's balance.
Okay, in fact, in mathematics,if we take that vesica Pisces
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and we put a line right down themiddle, that's called root
three Right, and there'sactually a geometrician expert
in geometry, frank Chester, whocreated a geometry called the
Chesterhedron and he found thatafter studying that geometry he
found that it was the geometryof the heart, the human heart,
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and he talks about a lot in hiswork.
Root three, which is that spacein between, that vesica pisces,
which is balance, it'sneutrality.
This is why, when we get ourheart involved as much as
possible in our life, it bringsand shifts things into balance.
Okay, humanity needs more thanever right now, because we're
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really, when people talk aboutthe matrix or the prison world,
it's keeping us in a dualitystate, which is to remove that
balance right.
So the heart is the key to kindof unlocking ourselves out of
that prison or confinement orlimitation, of what duality is
all about.
And so the cells, the cell cell, you know, the prison cell, is
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kind of that gamma duality thatwe in.
The key is the heart.
Um, so we've got the conceptionof the body right and of course,
as I said, man and woman cometogether.
Conception of the body we'vegot to remember that when the
formation of that embryo isstarting, there's no one driving
that, that ship, right, ordriving that body.
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Yet it's just a shell, it's abody right.
So there's another conceptionright, I'll bring spirit, the
soul, in.
That's then going to drive thatvehicle, so to speak.
And so that is when we get here, and the way that we get here
is through a wormhole, we know,and references the heart.
(19:05):
Okay, so it's not until theembryo starts forming the heart.
That's when the soul comes into utilize that body for a
lifetime.
So, as I say, they both needeach other, right.
So the body is kind of a vehiclefor us to have an experience
here, so we can take what we areas a soul, which is really
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formless frequencies, andconvert it into formed creation.
This is where the word information comes from, right to
translate those frequencies tobecome form, and form as matter,
physical reality.
So there's those.
So this is something that we'vebeen working a lot on and we've
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really been working.
You know, this is where it goesa bit extreme, obviously.
What I've talked about now is isjust an understanding of our
origin and also having a greaterunderstanding of purpose, of
why we're here, which this is Ilove, this is what I love to do.
But, uh, when we looked at theconception of the body right,
(20:12):
because we made I make tensortechnology products, pendants
and stuff that we make, and thependant that I'm showing here,
blair Blair which is thegeometry or symbology of
conception, we've made two ofthese with two different
energetics.
One of them is based on theconception of the body and one
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of them based on the conceptionof getting the heart open,
getting the soul and more ofyour consciousness.
Here, and you've got toremember this consciousness is
an infinite consciousness, whichmeans consciousness and energy,
an energy that knows noboundary or limitation.
That's what that means.
Okay, so when I say infiniteconsciousness, my clients are
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going, you're going to realizethat when I open your heart and
I facilitate that into an areaof your body that needs it right
.
So let's say I had sayingthey've got symptoms or a health
problem, that I'm saying I'msending energy that knows no
boundary or limitation to there.
That's what you originally,authentically, are as a soul
consciousness.
So the realization here and thequestion has to be why does our
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life as the human become soconfined and limited?
Maybe that's not all of us, butfor the most part that's what
people experience and out ofthat limitation and confinement,
that's where all the problemscome out of.
Funnily enough, right isbecause we're losing our
connection with our authenticitywhere we came from, our soul,
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our heart, right, as you werementioning about and implying
before, and we've kind ofcreated mentalities and stories,
that kind of limit and lock ourway, that we perceive in
reality that are always limitingus and confining us.
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Right, we need to break freefrom that and the heart is a
very important component of that.
Now for the conception pendantthat is more based on the body.
We've been looking at thingslike fertility, right, because
fertility problems are moreadvanced than they ever have
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been which is the ability tocreate that space or state of
neutrality.
Right, conception to create abody, right, so to have a child.
So, with that product and thatpendulum.
We're hoping to really dig ourteeth into improving fertility
(22:53):
but also balancing hormones aswell.
Right, because when we look ata human, you know when we're
talking about the game ofduality, or you know the matrix
or the prison world.
We're talking about twopolarities breaking apart from
each other.
This is me and which is gettingstuck in duality and what
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that's causing then an imbalancein that person's physiology.
Right, when we look at the bodyand the two areas that we get
unbalanced the most is ournervous system and our hormonal
system.
Right, because when those twothings become imbalanced, then
we get triggered very easily,like, for example, that's when
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people go oh my God, I don'tfeel grounded, I feel
overwhelmed.
All the time, I feel stressed,which is when we're starting to
embody energies that are not ourown and they get embedded in
our nervous system and they canfind a limit on nervous system.
Our nervous system can't expandand it wants to.
Right, because our originalpurpose in coming here as a soul
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consciousness was here toexpand.
Right, to expand our creation,not limit it.
So, um, and then obviously thatwith the nervous system, when
that gets overwhelmed, it meansthat we get triggered a lot
easier, right, and when we gettriggered a lot easily or easier
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, we all of a sudden lose ourself-awareness, right, which
means we lose sight of how we'reapplying ourselves, which means
how we apply our energy, um,and, and we get overwhelmed and
stressed and all these otherthings that that we get kind of
stuck in a vicious cycle or loop.
Same thing with the hormones.
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The hormones are about balance,and when the hormones lose
their balance, then again youlose your self-awareness, you
get triggered a lot easier andyou also lose that balance in
the way that you use youremotions.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Okay.
So we've been working on, youknow, looking at that conception
, geometry and energy, to helpbring those sorts of things into
balance.
We've also met a product, whichwe call the quantum ring, which
is a product that specificallyworks with the nervous system.
(25:24):
Um, and just recently, actuallythe other day, uh, a lady who
purchased that was instant, andI, you know, and I and I I don't
like to tell them too muchabout the product because
because then it gets wed, lodgedin as a mentality, right, so
all of a sudden she's wearing itand then within a couple of
days she goes oh, you know, I'msmiling, I just feel happier and
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I'm calmer, and stuff like that, and I go.
Well, there you go.
You know, it's this aspect ofnow all of a sudden you're
relinquishing the energies thatyou're not.
Now, to facilitate the energiesthat you are and that's how I
always say to my clients say,have you got your heart open?
You're facilitating more of whoyou are.
But if your heart's closing up,instead of not facilitating who
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you are, you're now embodyingwhat you're not and the body
will tell you.
And that's the thing about thebody.
The body is a form ofdiscernment and that's the thing
about the body.
The body is a form ofdiscernment, and a lot of the
symptoms that you thenexperience through the body are
there to give you a guide ofwhere you're at.
Yeah Right, so you can get backon track, right.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
Hmm, so I have a question.
There was a new.
I'm just going to explain whatit is and then we can go and see
what we do there yeah so it was.
It was it was related to doingsome energy work and it was
based in the duality, in thesense that the idea is presented
just to imagine it this way, soyou can understand the concept,
(26:58):
which you've already touched on.
But but this is I think we'rebringing a different idea of it
in here.
So let's say there's two endsof a spectrum and you know you
might see it as a range andthey're almost like opposite.
But instead of it being like 2D, where it's just flat on a line
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, it's more like it's if it wasrepresented on 2D would be more
better represented as a circle.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
Where on that spectrum are you closer to one
point or another?
They might be opposite.
I kind of feel like, reallyit's not even at all 2D or even
maybe 3D, but it's more like afield in which you might be
closer to one representation oranother, and the way you might
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bring, you know, bring somethingto you that you feel is more
aligned with you is being awareof that field.
So here's my question If we areaware that there is a field
that includes both sides of thisspectrum, there is also an
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acknowledgement that we are bothenergies, and I feel like when
you were talking earlier, therewas like what was coming through
is when we start, when peoplehave the full awakening,
recognition that we are all one.
Yes, one of the things thathappens is that impatience
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usually disintegrates for themost part, except when you're
out of balance, right, becauseyou start to see these other
people as, again, just on thespectrum, they have a different
facet of their experience thatthey're sharing with you.
You get to different.
You know it's another part ofthe spectrum here.
So, given that, I'm curious tosee what you have to say about
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experiencing both ends of thespectrum.
If we are all one, they'rethere for a purpose.
Like you said, it's a barometerin a sense, to keep you aware
of where you are in terms ofbalance.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
Yeah, it comes back, to excuse me, it comes back to
the original purpose of whyconsciousness is here right, to
live in it.
Experience, through what wecall an interface, the body, and
that is every consciousnesswants to evolve itself, and the
(29:46):
way it evolves itself,especially by coming here, is to
have experience, right, tocreate reality that will have
experience within it.
That is new, right, because wewant to have new experiences To
(30:07):
convert into wisdom, right.
So how, we want to have newexperiences to convert into
wisdom, right.
So how, why people?
Why someone might be over hereand another on another end of
the spectrum or in a differentplace is it gives a wide array
of different experiences toamplify and accumulate that, the
ability to convert that intowisdom.
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Because there is one step inhaving experience but there's
another step in converting itinto wisdom.
And what I mean by that?
Because when we have a lot ofexperience but don't convert it
into wisdom, this is a bigreason why we keep reincarnating
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here.
Okay, so if we want to look at,you know, karma, right, because
karma comes into this too,because we're talking about a
recycling loop, right, whetherit's it's something we're
experiencing now and let's sayit's presenting to itself, right
and let's say we're notself-aware to pick up on it, or
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to pick up on why we're havingthat experience, right, which is
a big part in then, as we saidbefore earlier about the knowing
and the understanding of it.
That's the ability to thenconvert it into wisdom.
Let's say we don't get it.
It comes up again, right.
It gives you another chance.
You have another moment of thatand the same day it might seem
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sometimes, or the next day orthe next week, right, which is,
it's coming around.
It's another cycle giving youan opportunity.
You know a lot of peopleperceive all these things as, oh
, bad luck, or things go afterthem, or actually a lot of
things in life are rooting foryou.
They're actually trying to helpyou, even including people that
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go for health problems.
I've got symptoms, I've gotaches and pains everywhere.
You're misinterpreting thereason why we have a body.
The body's trying to let youknow and get you back on track.
That's really what it's tryingto do.
It's just we've misunderstoodand misinterpreted by the way
we've been conditioned tobelieve what symptoms are.
So, going back to that loop,right, the bigger loop is
(32:14):
lifetimes, right, areincarnation, now what?
So what is required to thenconvert those experiences into
wisdom is connected to the heart.
Funny, funny that, eh, and it'sthe expression to get to the
heart of the matter, becausewe're experiencing it in a
(32:37):
physical sense, right.
So that's where the word mattercomes from and, of course, it's
saying what we need tounderstand it, which is the
heart Now.
So the thing about the heartright, the heart wants you to be
self-aware, it wants you to be.
(32:57):
It doesn't care about fiveminutes before or five minutes
in the future, and that's notbecause it doesn't care about
you.
It means it's trying toemphasize that life's the now
and that's all.
There is.
Okay, the only important choiceyou need to make is the one you
have to make now, okay.
So it's emphasizing to beself-aware of your choice in the
(33:18):
moment.
And so your heart, and hencewhat facilitates you as the soul
, which I say, is you withoutall the conditioning, right,
this is the important aspect ofwhy we present that, your
authenticity.
It connects to what is simplywhat is okay, which is the very
(33:38):
thing that's coming into yourawareness, that's trying to
forge you forward, right, toevolve, to ascend.
This is why you're here, right,as a consciousness, to keep
evolving, now, when we are notfully present, right, and, of
course, when we're in the heart.
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That's why we have theexperience, but we can connect
into the a greater sense ofunderstanding and knowing of
what that experience is allabout.
Hence that allows us to convertthat experience into wisdom.
But for a majority of humans andthis is why I work so much with
the heart and the understandingof that, you know, when we are
(34:20):
more mind-orientated,thought-orientated,
mentality-orientated especiallymentality and we'll talk a
little bit more about that um isthat we don't stay with what is
, we start to change what isinto our own little story, right
(34:40):
, based on our past experienceand and all these sorts of
things.
So often we lose sight of thevery reason or purpose to
understand, of why we have thatexperience, and hence we don't
get to the heart of the matterand hence we don't convert that
experience into wisdom.
And what happens?
We start to accumulateexperience, and I believe this
(35:01):
is a big, big key, or bigunderstanding or knowing of why
people get cognitive issues likedementia, alzheimer's and those
sorts of things.
I see them as like a computerthat's run out of ram, hard
drive, space, right, ram, yep,right, because I've accumulated
some experience that hasn't beenconverted into wisdom.
(35:22):
Okay, because when we convertinto wisdom we don't hold on to
it, we let it go.
And I'm pretty sure you'd agreewith me here.
Right, when we, when you're achanneler and you're, you know,
and of course you've got to bevery present right you create
that state to be a channeler,you trust in the moment that the
answers that you need for thatmoment are going to come, which
(35:45):
means you're not holding on toit, you're just trusting the
process that your guide, yoursoul, your consciousness is
going to facilitate what youneed, that's connected to that
very moment, what you'reexperiencing, and you trust that
process.
And that's not about holding onto anything, that's not about
attachment, that's not aboutdependency.
(36:05):
It's about flow and remainingin the flow.
And this is also important withflow, with channeling, but it's
also important with the body,because the body works when
everything's flowing.
When we lose our flow, then westart to see health problems
arise.
So I always say the path of ourspiritual path of ascension to
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convert experience into wisdom,the reason why we're here as a
consciousness is the samepathway to wellness and vitality
.
It's not different.
So, as we said before, right atthe start, how people see is
the body and the spirit.
They're two separate things.
No, they're not.
They're the same.
We bring them together Becausethe same path for us supports
(36:52):
both.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
Right, and what I was hearing you saying during that
too was I was actually seeing itboth as interpersonal with
different humans, but you'rereferring to it as intrapersonal
.
But it's the same thing asinterpersonal, which is you have
a group dynamic and this personhas a certain personality, or
(37:14):
they say whatever they say, andit causes the dynamic of the
group to change.
The same thing happens within.
There's a part of you thatsteps forward and says or does
or thinks or feels or whateverit does, and it helps the unity
of the whole thing.
But, as you said, it's the flow, because if we start to resist
that other person in the groupor we resist that part within
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ourselves, then the whole thinggets out of whack.
Right, it gets out, it doesit's.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
It's also an understand that the people that
you are spending a lot of timewith, right, or a big part of
your experience here, are partof the deal in you converting
experience into wisdom, and youare to them, yes, exactly.
So they might not be at theirpath a certain what's the word
(38:11):
here?
They might not be at a certainpoint in their path to fully
comprehend and understand thatcompared to, let's say, you are,
but it's still there, right,Because the reason we're here is
to have experience and convertit into wisdom.
There, right, it's, it'sbecause the reason we're here is
to have experience and convertinto wisdom.
So, even if it's like, even ifyou know you're in a tricky
(38:32):
situation and you're having itwas conflict or arguments with
your partner or wife or husbandor whatever like that, we can
easily shift in the head andstart thinking, oh, you know,
this sucks, and why me?
Why are you doing this to me?
And all the victimhood aspectof it.
Or we can stay in the heart,right, and stay very present,
(38:55):
realize, actually, what can Ilearn from this?
What can I learn from theirbehavior?
You know, that makes meunderstand them better, but also
understand myself better inregards to this relationship or
this connection so same with ourchildren.
Speaker 1 (39:15):
So you know, it's a learning game, that's why you
can work on yourself and yourrelationship gets better,
regardless of other people'sinvolved or not.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
Yeah, that's it.
That's it.
And it's also you know the morethat if you can stay in the
heart, then you're increasingthe likelihood of them to drop
in their heart and things tojust effortlessly resolve, but
at the same time you resolvethat.
But both people come out of itall the better, because I've
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learned something from it.
Speaker 1 (39:52):
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Speaker 2 (00:30):
I am curious to know did you write a book yet?
Speaker 1 (00:36):
No, I haven't.
I get that question a lot.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
And what stopped you from it?
Just because my journey hasbeen a very ever-evolving
process and I've always feltlike, of course, you could write
a book and then you do anupdate version of it, right, as
things change.
But, uh, I never, I neverwanted to put a book out there
(00:57):
and feel like I'm bound or stuckto what I write about, the
principles in the book For me.
I want to ever evolve, I wantto ever evolve, I want to ever
change.
So in that way, the wholedynamic of writing a book just
didn't appeal in regards to that.
But, uh, but I've got to saythat, you know, in the last
(01:21):
probably year especially, thatthings are starting to become.
Yes, it's still evolving inmany ways, but we're kind of
hitting very focal, centralprinciples or knowings, or
(01:42):
understandings of what I do andwhat I provide.
So that is on the horizon inregards to a book, um, and it
just didn't feel right, you know, before now, yeah, to look at
that, because it just felt likeit was a medium, that because I
see so many people, not so muchin the energy world, but many
(02:02):
people in the health worldespecially nutrition and those
sorts of things and diet, likethey've written a book and then
themselves have had a healthcrisis because they've stuck to
what the book adheres to.
It's like it's become areligion, so to speak.
Um, so I never wanted to putmyself in that situation, right?
(02:26):
And then all of a suddenthere's a backlash of people
going off, but in the book yousay this and now you're saying
you didn't, you're sick andyou're doing this now, you know.
So I always felt what I provideis a medium that is ever
evolving.
So I just felt like the bookoption was just not an option.
(02:49):
But uh, but I'm warming to it.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Let's just say that I know exactly what you're
referring to.
However, um, there are ways towrite that eliminate what you're
talking about, and I'm notsaying that it's like it's
because language, you know, isso 3D, right, for lack of a
(03:14):
better description, and it'sconfining.
We're never taught tonecessarily write like that, but
, given at least given myexperience with marketing and so
forth, I have just the thingsI've done, I've I've learned to
recognize oh no, don't put thatword in there, why?
Because that dates it, orbecause that you know that that
(03:35):
makes it feel even moreconstricted than it really is,
and so you don't, you may not,have statements that are as
clear, clear, cut per se, likeyou know it's.
It's really very similar to thebeing working in this, in this
field where, um, somebody askedme one time oh, they were, they
(03:57):
were talking about how do you,essentially, how do you know if
somebody's under hypnosis?
Speaker 2 (04:01):
and the way I came to describe it is like it's this
really strange combination ofvague and very specific at the
same time yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, because it's keeping it
very open-ended in many ways,right, so people can, um, kind
(04:22):
of decipher what they want totake from it themselves, right?
So yeah, because when I look atmy social media, you know, in
regards to the posts, all thethings I'm writing up, because
it's just not we're not justputting out a meme, right, or
something that you know, a bodyof work that someone else has
(04:42):
put across.
A lot of it's stuff that youknow comes through me.
So I get a lot of people thatask me and go hey, I saw your
article the other day, or whatyou're talking about in a
session.
You know, where do I go?
Where's a book that you canrecommend I go?
There's no book that camethrough me, so it didn't come
from a book.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Oh, they're asking for a reference, asking for a
reference, asking for areference.
So my question is when they'reasking you for a reference, do
you feel like they're asking youfor a reference so that they
can go entertain their mind withthat, or are they asking
because they want more of thatidea to come through?
Speaker 2 (05:19):
I think, but both.
But I think definitely with thefact that they want to um, in
their own personal time toexplore that, to learn more
about that, which which is areally good thing.
You know, that's something thatI encourage with with them.
But uh, if you amass all thestuff that are written, you know
(05:39):
, over a period of time, that'slike, well, there's, there's
probably a number of bookswithin that, you know.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
But yeah, well, I, what I like about the way that
you speak about things, whetherit's in written form or not, um,
is, I don't know.
I just feel like you have thisvery clear picture of, in a
sense, it's more like astructure of kind of the way
quote, quote the world, meaningour experience of whatever we
are here, right, whatever thatis and how it functions, and
(06:08):
it's a different perspective.
So, and I'm learning that thisis essentially just the way that
I see things like.
The way I perceive them is whenyou speak.
There's an image that's veryclear about what things are and
what things aren't.
And I almost want to say canyou paint the painting?
So we can, you know, like justso that they see that and
(06:30):
perceive it, even just and takeit in, you know?
Speaker 2 (06:34):
well, I'm very aware that you know I'm talking about.
In some ways, it might be theuh alternative of the
alternative or the extreme ofthe extreme, but in the end, my
job is not fulfilled unless theperson understands, right so,
where I'm coming from toeveryday life, right, everyday
(07:02):
world for people, and useanalogies, uh, to simplify and
keep it simple, because I feellike in the world that we live
in today, thanks to the internet, there's really infinite
sources of information.
So it's more about how we canapply that information and how
(07:23):
we can understand it right so,and how it applies to our
everyday life, which means, then, how we can use that right to
its maximum potential.
So so, yeah, you know infinitesources of information, but I
still feel there's a lack ofknowing and understanding still
out there.
So I really like to let myclients know that, okay, I might
(07:49):
be reaching into some extremeshere, especially if this is new
to them, because there's manyclients that are like, yeah, I
know what you're talking aboutstraight away, but put it in a
simple fashion and make itsimple and understandable,
because the more advanced we'regoing to become is what I'm
(08:12):
finding is to actually makethings more simpler, and I feel
like a lot of the way that we'reconditioned as humans is to
perceive that our advancementsgoing to be more complicated
stuff.
And for me there's so muchcomplicated stuff out there that
(08:32):
people are aware of but theydon't know much about it or
knowing or an understanding ofhow it works and because it's
kind of presented in a verycomplex way.
It's like an example is DNA andgenetics.
So anyone knows that, wow, dnaand genetics and getting into
genes and all sorts of things,it's wow, it's pretty extreme
(08:54):
and it's pretty out there.
It's like no way I canunderstand that right.
But at Truly Holistic we put itin a really simple format to
make it nice and simple, becausefor me the core aspects of life
are simple.
It's just that the way we'vebeen conditioned to process what
we perceive, we put it in acomplicated state.
(09:19):
We change something that'ssimple and what we could say is
simply what is.
Change something that's simpleand what we could say is simply
what is, and then, through ourunderstanding of mind, thought,
mentality, we tend to translateit into a very complex, uh thing
.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
You know that that originally wasn't yeah, I agree
completely and actually, um, I,whatever, yeah, I'm just gonna
call it channeling, becausethat's what the new hot term is
right, when you're connected andyou're getting your information
.
I found it way simpler, likethree words maximum or something
(09:59):
, and it's you know, and thenthe other people are just
nonstop and you're like, okay,it's still these three words,
you know.
The answer is still right here,right there at the beginning.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Yeah, I'll let the analogy yeah, and sometimes
it'll be just a word someonesays and I'm just like and
because you know, when you getinto channeling and you get more
into that knowing right, thatintuitive, intuition aspect, you
get very aware by, you've gotmore self-awareness, right.
There's always things comingacross you and trying to your
(10:30):
words, uh, topics, things you'relooking at, and a lot of people
just shrug them off becausethey don't have the awareness
right, the self-awareness to.
Oh, that's that's interesting,let's explore that more.
So it might be just a word,word that someone brings up.
You're like oh, that heightenssomething I'm gonna look at,
look into that a little bit more, right.
Um, so things like that arereally important.
(10:55):
I like to actually use ananalogy, like, as you mentioned,
that it can be just, you know,people might say something in a
certain way but, as you say,it's like these three words that
just keep coming up, or acommon theme.
And the analogy I like to useis you know, you can bake so
many different cakes, but everycake, the, the main three or
(11:18):
four ingredients are all thesame, essentially right.
So so it's this aspect that youknow.
People are like oh, this is aamazing that this is this cake.
And this is this cake becausewe compartmentalize all these
different things, which thencreates the complexity, but
really, at the basis, thefoundation of all those things,
all those variables, are thesame, it's the same thing, and a
(11:42):
lot of times that baseline isthe cause to the effect, right
On the effect level, which forpeople, when they're dealing
with a health problem, is thesymptoms they're getting, right,
which is really the bodyexpressing itself, which I call
the effect.
Okay, but there's a cause tothat effect, right.
(12:05):
And and generally, where we'reconditioned out of mind, thought
, mentality, we chase the effectwithout, with a lack of knowing
or understanding of the causeto that effect, right, and the
effect's only there because of acause, right.
So, so a lot of the times, thecause to the effect, the cause,
is always going to be a lot moresimple than the effect, because
(12:28):
the effect comes out as so manydifferent symptoms in so many
different parts of the body.
Hence they're expressed indifferent areas of the body and
there could be so many variablesin play with that and hence the
complexity of oh, I've got todeal with that, I've got to deal
with that, I've got to dealwith that.
It's a bit like in the medicalsystem I was talking to someone
(12:51):
about the other day.
You know, you get started onone medication and then you
start to get deficiencies orside effects out of that one
medication.
So within six months now you'reon five medications, right?
So all these differentvariables all show up when we go
to the cause.
It's bring things back into amore singular fashion where we
(13:13):
simplify.
And the cool thing about thatis you're not chasing a fact
like you're trimming thebranches off a plant.
You're going straight to thecause to pull the roots of the
plant out.
So you know, and and it'salways going to be simpler the
complexity comes out of chasingthe effect right and working on
(13:34):
the effect, which really ourconventional modern medical
system is based on treating theeffect, focusing on the effect,
and that's why so many peopleare going oh, I get this all the
time, right, I went and saw mydoctor and they say I've got
this and they're not unsure.
Now I went to another expert orspecialist and they say this it
(13:57):
doesn't fit with the otherperson because they're all
working in that effect level.
They don't have the knowing orunderstanding of the cause to
the effect.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
Yeah, so correct me if I'm wrong, but I feel like,
um, and we're all in bodies,we're all in the same boat with
that, yeah, yeah, but I feellike I keep getting the message
over and over and even as you'retalking, it was coming through.
(14:27):
The cause is always on somelevel, not?
Yeah, let's see how do I saythis, not living from the heart
or acknowledge some part of yeah, very much so.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
And also what I would say about that, that really the
, the cause or the origin ofeverything is in the unseen
doesn't mean it's notinfluencing the same.
It is right, because a lot ofpeople will kind of say, hey,
let's compartmentalize, we'vegot body over here and we've got
(15:07):
spirit over here.
No, you don't compartmentalizethe two, because they're
associated with each other.
Right, each part, eachcomponent, each faction needs
the other.
Yes, so, and our spirit, oursoul, is the heart.
(15:28):
The heart facilitates that.
A lot of work that we've been,that I've been doing of late,
probably the last few monthsespecially, is looking into
conception, the word conception,right, which is talking about
origin and talking about thosetwo factions.
Funnily enough, right, theconcept, because there's two
(15:49):
conceptions for us.
There's the conception of thebody.
Right, which is the conceptionthat essentially everyone knows
about.
Right, we don't have to go intogreat depth without that.
Right, a man and a woman cometogether.
Right, which you could see is aman is one polarity, a woman
the other polarity.
And when you bring thosepolarities together, it creates
(16:10):
this little zone in the middleof the overlapping of the two,
which we call a state ofconception or a state of
neutrality.
Neutrality means balance, okay,um, actually I'll show you a
whether we're doing video.
I'm probably just doing audiofor the call, but I'm going to
show you here.
(16:31):
Blair is uh, so this is tworings overlapping.
Yes yeah, so we see this as thegeometry or symbol of conception
, where each ring and that isone is the polarities right.
So two polarities make dualityright and dualities.
Though when those twopolarities are apart from each
(16:53):
other they're opposing eachother.
But when we bring thosepolarities together it creates
that lovely vesica Piscesgeometry in the middle, which is
neutrality, it's balance.
Okay, in fact, in mathematics,if we take that vesica Pisces
(17:14):
and we put a line right down themiddle, that's called root
three Right, and there'sactually a geometrician expert
in geometry, frank Chester, whocreated a geometry called the
Chesterhedron and he found thatafter studying that geometry he
found that it was the geometryof the heart, the human heart,
(17:37):
and he talks about a lot in hiswork.
Root three, which is that spacein between, that vesica pisces,
which is balance, it'sneutrality.
This is why, when we get ourheart involved as much as
possible in our life, it bringsand shifts things into balance.
Okay, humanity needs more thanever right now, because we're
(18:00):
really, when people talk aboutthe matrix or the prison world,
it's keeping us in a dualitystate, which is to remove that
balance right.
So the heart is the key to kindof unlocking ourselves out of
that prison or confinement orlimitation, of what duality is
all about.
And so the cells, the cell cell, you know, the prison cell, is
(18:23):
kind of that gamma duality thatwe in.
The key is the heart.
Um, so we've got the conceptionof the body right and of course,
as I said, man and woman cometogether.
Conception of the body we'vegot to remember that when the
formation of that embryo isstarting, there's no one driving
that, that ship, right, ordriving that body.
(18:44):
Yet it's just a shell, it's abody right.
So there's another conceptionright, I'll bring spirit, the
soul, in.
That's then going to drive thatvehicle, so to speak.
And so that is when we get here, and the way that we get here
is through a wormhole, we know,and references the heart.
(19:05):
Okay, so it's not until theembryo starts forming the heart.
That's when the soul comes into utilize that body for a
lifetime.
So, as I say, they both needeach other, right.
So the body is kind of a vehiclefor us to have an experience
here, so we can take what we areas a soul, which is really
(19:29):
formless frequencies, andconvert it into formed creation.
This is where the word information comes from, right to
translate those frequencies tobecome form, and form as matter,
physical reality.
So there's those.
So this is something that we'vebeen working a lot on and we've
(19:51):
really been working.
You know, this is where it goesa bit extreme, obviously.
What I've talked about now is isjust an understanding of our
origin and also having a greaterunderstanding of purpose, of
why we're here, which this is Ilove, this is what I love to do.
But, uh, when we looked at theconception of the body right,
(20:12):
because we made I make tensortechnology products, pendants
and stuff that we make, and thependant that I'm showing here,
blair Blair which is thegeometry or symbology of
conception, we've made two ofthese with two different
energetics.
One of them is based on theconception of the body and one
(20:33):
of them based on the conceptionof getting the heart open,
getting the soul and more ofyour consciousness.
Here, and you've got toremember this consciousness is
an infinite consciousness, whichmeans consciousness and energy,
an energy that knows noboundary or limitation.
That's what that means.
Okay, so when I say infiniteconsciousness, my clients are
(20:57):
going, you're going to realizethat when I open your heart and
I facilitate that into an areaof your body that needs it right
.
So let's say I had sayingthey've got symptoms or a health
problem, that I'm saying I'msending energy that knows no
boundary or limitation to there.
That's what you originally,authentically, are as a soul
consciousness.
So the realization here and thequestion has to be why does our
(21:22):
life as the human become soconfined and limited?
Maybe that's not all of us, butfor the most part that's what
people experience and out ofthat limitation and confinement,
that's where all the problemscome out of.
Funnily enough, right isbecause we're losing our
connection with our authenticitywhere we came from, our soul,
(21:45):
our heart, right, as you werementioning about and implying
before, and we've kind ofcreated mentalities and stories,
that kind of limit and lock ourway, that we perceive in
reality that are always limitingus and confining us.
(22:07):
Right, we need to break freefrom that and the heart is a
very important component of that.
Now for the conception pendantthat is more based on the body.
We've been looking at thingslike fertility, right, because
fertility problems are moreadvanced than they ever have
(22:31):
been which is the ability tocreate that space or state of
neutrality.
Right, conception to create abody, right, so to have a child.
So, with that product and thatpendulum.
We're hoping to really dig ourteeth into improving fertility
(22:53):
but also balancing hormones aswell.
Right, because when we look ata human, you know when we're
talking about the game ofduality, or you know the matrix
or the prison world.
We're talking about twopolarities breaking apart from
each other.
This is me and which is gettingstuck in duality and what
(23:17):
that's causing then an imbalancein that person's physiology.
Right, when we look at the bodyand the two areas that we get
unbalanced the most is ournervous system and our hormonal
system.
Right, because when those twothings become imbalanced, then
we get triggered very easily,like, for example, that's when
(23:39):
people go oh my God, I don'tfeel grounded, I feel
overwhelmed.
All the time, I feel stressed,which is when we're starting to
embody energies that are not ourown and they get embedded in
our nervous system and they canfind a limit on nervous system.
Our nervous system can't expandand it wants to.
Right, because our originalpurpose in coming here as a soul
(24:00):
consciousness was here toexpand.
Right, to expand our creation,not limit it.
So, um, and then obviously thatwith the nervous system, when
that gets overwhelmed, it meansthat we get triggered a lot
easier, right, and when we gettriggered a lot easily or easier
(24:22):
, we all of a sudden lose ourself-awareness, right, which
means we lose sight of how we'reapplying ourselves, which means
how we apply our energy, um,and, and we get overwhelmed and
stressed and all these otherthings that that we get kind of
stuck in a vicious cycle or loop.
Same thing with the hormones.
(24:42):
The hormones are about balance,and when the hormones lose
their balance, then again youlose your self-awareness, you
get triggered a lot easier andyou also lose that balance in
the way that you use youremotions.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Okay.
So we've been working on, youknow, looking at that conception
, geometry and energy, to helpbring those sorts of things into
balance.
We've also met a product, whichwe call the quantum ring, which
is a product that specificallyworks with the nervous system.
(25:24):
Um, and just recently, actuallythe other day, uh, a lady who
purchased that was instant, andI, you know, and I and I I don't
like to tell them too muchabout the product because
because then it gets wed, lodgedin as a mentality, right, so
all of a sudden she's wearing itand then within a couple of
days she goes oh, you know, I'msmiling, I just feel happier and
(25:47):
I'm calmer, and stuff like that, and I go.
Well, there you go.
You know, it's this aspect ofnow all of a sudden you're
relinquishing the energies thatyou're not.
Now, to facilitate the energiesthat you are and that's how I
always say to my clients say,have you got your heart open?
You're facilitating more of whoyou are.
But if your heart's closing up,instead of not facilitating who
(26:12):
you are, you're now embodyingwhat you're not and the body
will tell you.
And that's the thing about thebody.
The body is a form ofdiscernment and that's the thing
about the body.
The body is a form ofdiscernment, and a lot of the
symptoms that you thenexperience through the body are
there to give you a guide ofwhere you're at.
Yeah Right, so you can get backon track, right.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
Hmm, so I have a question.
There was a new.
I'm just going to explain whatit is and then we can go and see
what we do there yeah so it was.
It was it was related to doingsome energy work and it was
based in the duality, in thesense that the idea is presented
just to imagine it this way, soyou can understand the concept,
(26:58):
which you've already touched on.
But but this is I think we'rebringing a different idea of it
in here.
So let's say there's two endsof a spectrum and you know you
might see it as a range andthey're almost like opposite.
But instead of it being like 2D, where it's just flat on a line
(27:20):
, it's more like it's if it wasrepresented on 2D would be more
better represented as a circle.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
Where on that spectrum are you closer to one
point or another?
They might be opposite.
I kind of feel like, reallyit's not even at all 2D or even
maybe 3D, but it's more like afield in which you might be
closer to one representation oranother, and the way you might
(27:52):
bring, you know, bring somethingto you that you feel is more
aligned with you is being awareof that field.
So here's my question If we areaware that there is a field
that includes both sides of thisspectrum, there is also an
(28:15):
acknowledgement that we are bothenergies, and I feel like when
you were talking earlier, therewas like what was coming through
is when we start, when peoplehave the full awakening,
recognition that we are all one.
Yes, one of the things thathappens is that impatience
(28:40):
usually disintegrates for themost part, except when you're
out of balance, right, becauseyou start to see these other
people as, again, just on thespectrum, they have a different
facet of their experience thatthey're sharing with you.
You get to different.
You know it's another part ofthe spectrum here.
So, given that, I'm curious tosee what you have to say about
(29:11):
experiencing both ends of thespectrum.
If we are all one, they'rethere for a purpose.
Like you said, it's a barometerin a sense, to keep you aware
of where you are in terms ofbalance.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
Yeah, it comes back, to excuse me, it comes back to
the original purpose of whyconsciousness is here right, to
live in it.
Experience, through what wecall an interface, the body, and
that is every consciousnesswants to evolve itself, and the
(29:46):
way it evolves itself,especially by coming here, is to
have experience, right, tocreate reality that will have
experience within it.
That is new, right, because wewant to have new experiences To
(30:07):
convert into wisdom, right.
So how, we want to have newexperiences to convert into
wisdom, right.
So how, why people?
Why someone might be over hereand another on another end of
the spectrum or in a differentplace is it gives a wide array
of different experiences toamplify and accumulate that, the
ability to convert that intowisdom.
(30:28):
Because there is one step inhaving experience but there's
another step in converting itinto wisdom.
And what I mean by that?
Because when we have a lot ofexperience but don't convert it
into wisdom, this is a bigreason why we keep reincarnating
(30:49):
here.
Okay, so if we want to look at,you know, karma, right, because
karma comes into this too,because we're talking about a
recycling loop, right, whetherit's it's something we're
experiencing now and let's sayit's presenting to itself, right
and let's say we're notself-aware to pick up on it, or
(31:12):
to pick up on why we're havingthat experience, right, which is
a big part in then, as we saidbefore earlier about the knowing
and the understanding of it.
That's the ability to thenconvert it into wisdom.
Let's say we don't get it.
It comes up again, right.
It gives you another chance.
You have another moment of thatand the same day it might seem
(31:32):
sometimes, or the next day orthe next week, right, which is,
it's coming around.
It's another cycle giving youan opportunity.
You know a lot of peopleperceive all these things as, oh
, bad luck, or things go afterthem, or actually a lot of
things in life are rooting foryou.
They're actually trying to helpyou, even including people that
(31:52):
go for health problems.
I've got symptoms, I've gotaches and pains everywhere.
You're misinterpreting thereason why we have a body.
The body's trying to let youknow and get you back on track.
That's really what it's tryingto do.
It's just we've misunderstoodand misinterpreted by the way
we've been conditioned tobelieve what symptoms are.
So, going back to that loop,right, the bigger loop is
(32:14):
lifetimes, right, areincarnation, now what?
So what is required to thenconvert those experiences into
wisdom is connected to the heart.
Funny, funny that, eh, and it'sthe expression to get to the
heart of the matter, becausewe're experiencing it in a
(32:37):
physical sense, right.
So that's where the word mattercomes from and, of course, it's
saying what we need tounderstand it, which is the
heart Now.
So the thing about the heartright, the heart wants you to be
self-aware, it wants you to be.
(32:57):
It doesn't care about fiveminutes before or five minutes
in the future, and that's notbecause it doesn't care about
you.
It means it's trying toemphasize that life's the now
and that's all.
There is.
Okay, the only important choiceyou need to make is the one you
have to make now, okay.
So it's emphasizing to beself-aware of your choice in the
(33:18):
moment.
And so your heart, and hencewhat facilitates you as the soul
, which I say, is you withoutall the conditioning, right,
this is the important aspect ofwhy we present that, your
authenticity.
It connects to what is simplywhat is okay, which is the very
(33:38):
thing that's coming into yourawareness, that's trying to
forge you forward, right, toevolve, to ascend.
This is why you're here, right,as a consciousness, to keep
evolving, now, when we are notfully present, right, and, of
course, when we're in the heart.
(33:59):
That's why we have theexperience, but we can connect
into the a greater sense ofunderstanding and knowing of
what that experience is allabout.
Hence that allows us to convertthat experience into wisdom.
But for a majority of humans andthis is why I work so much with
the heart and the understandingof that, you know, when we are
(34:20):
more mind-orientated,thought-orientated,
mentality-orientated especiallymentality and we'll talk a
little bit more about that um isthat we don't stay with what is
, we start to change what isinto our own little story, right
(34:40):
, based on our past experienceand and all these sorts of
things.
So often we lose sight of thevery reason or purpose to
understand, of why we have thatexperience, and hence we don't
get to the heart of the matterand hence we don't convert that
experience into wisdom.
And what happens?
We start to accumulateexperience, and I believe this
(35:01):
is a big, big key, or bigunderstanding or knowing of why
people get cognitive issues likedementia, alzheimer's and those
sorts of things.
I see them as like a computerthat's run out of ram, hard
drive, space, right, ram, yep,right, because I've accumulated
some experience that hasn't beenconverted into wisdom.
(35:22):
Okay, because when we convertinto wisdom we don't hold on to
it, we let it go.
And I'm pretty sure you'd agreewith me here.
Right, when we, when you're achanneler and you're, you know,
and of course you've got to bevery present right you create
that state to be a channeler,you trust in the moment that the
answers that you need for thatmoment are going to come, which
(35:45):
means you're not holding on toit, you're just trusting the
process that your guide, yoursoul, your consciousness is
going to facilitate what youneed, that's connected to that
very moment, what you'reexperiencing, and you trust that
process.
And that's not about holding onto anything, that's not about
attachment, that's not aboutdependency.
(36:05):
It's about flow and remainingin the flow.
And this is also important withflow, with channeling, but it's
also important with the body,because the body works when
everything's flowing.
When we lose our flow, then westart to see health problems
arise.
So I always say the path of ourspiritual path of ascension to
(36:29):
convert experience into wisdom,the reason why we're here as a
consciousness is the samepathway to wellness and vitality
.
It's not different.
So, as we said before, right atthe start, how people see is
the body and the spirit.
They're two separate things.
No, they're not.
They're the same.
We bring them together Becausethe same path for us supports
(36:52):
both.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
Right, and what I was hearing you saying during that
too was I was actually seeing itboth as interpersonal with
different humans, but you'rereferring to it as intrapersonal
.
But it's the same thing asinterpersonal, which is you have
a group dynamic and this personhas a certain personality, or
(37:14):
they say whatever they say, andit causes the dynamic of the
group to change.
The same thing happens within.
There's a part of you thatsteps forward and says or does
or thinks or feels or whateverit does, and it helps the unity
of the whole thing.
But, as you said, it's the flow, because if we start to resist
that other person in the groupor we resist that part within
(37:36):
ourselves, then the whole thinggets out of whack.
Right, it gets out, it doesit's.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
It's also an understand that the people that
you are spending a lot of timewith, right, or a big part of
your experience here, are partof the deal in you converting
experience into wisdom, and youare to them, yes, exactly.
So they might not be at theirpath a certain what's the word
(38:11):
here?
They might not be at a certainpoint in their path to fully
comprehend and understand thatcompared to, let's say, you are,
but it's still there, right,Because the reason we're here is
to have experience and convertit into wisdom.
There, right, it's, it'sbecause the reason we're here is
to have experience and convertinto wisdom.
So, even if it's like, even ifyou know you're in a tricky
(38:32):
situation and you're having itwas conflict or arguments with
your partner or wife or husbandor whatever like that, we can
easily shift in the head andstart thinking, oh, you know,
this sucks, and why me?
Why are you doing this to me?
And all the victimhood aspectof it.
Or we can stay in the heart,right, and stay very present,
(38:55):
realize, actually, what can Ilearn from this?
What can I learn from theirbehavior?
You know, that makes meunderstand them better, but also
understand myself better inregards to this relationship or
this connection so same with ourchildren.
Speaker 1 (39:15):
So you know, it's a learning game, that's why you
can work on yourself and yourrelationship gets better,
regardless of other people'sinvolved or not.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
Yeah, that's it.
That's it.
And it's also you know the morethat if you can stay in the
heart, then you're increasingthe likelihood of them to drop
in their heart and things tojust effortlessly resolve, but
at the same time you resolvethat.
But both people come out of itall the better, because I've
(39:51):
learned something from it.
Speaker 1 (39:52):
That's what it's all about thanks for listening to
this episode of mystical andinfamous podcast with the happy
lion center.
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