November 12, 2024 • 31 mins
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Have you ever wondered if words are truly necessary for spiritual connection, or if our intentions speak louder than our prayers? Join us on this episode of Mystical and Infamous as we navigate the intricacies of prayer, spirituality, and personal healing. Kathie Malby and Blaire Stanislao reflect on how the elaborate explanations that accompany prayers often serve us more than the divine—questioning the necessity of spoken words in schools and beyond.
Inspired by the teachings of St. Paul and the actions of St. Francis of Assisi, we explore the concept of continuous prayer and its embodiment beyond mere words. Discover how physical acts, such as using a rosary, can become tangible expressions of spiritual intention. We also unveil methods for integrating prayer into daily life, like tapping, to reconnect the heart and mind. Through this practice, we aim to foster a deeper spiritual awareness and connection that transcends the physical form, viewing others as ethereal essences.
Our journey culminates with a focus on personal healing through practices like Reiki and Qigong. We discuss the transformative power of self-care routines and the joy and healing they can bring when embraced daily. Experience the positive energy that radiates when one is aligned with themselves, creating an environment of comfort and peace not only for oneself but also for those around us. Listen as we reflect on the innate attraction and comfort that babies and animals feel towards individuals who are at peace, showcasing the profound effects of personal alignment and spiritual practice on both ourselves and those we encounter.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hello, this is Blair Stanislao with the Happy Lion
Center.
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People sometimes in groups needto do a big explanation about
what they're praying about, orit's a way to tell you all about
their experience with a personor an event, and then we pray.
I mean they say we pray.
(00:42):
I mean they say we pray or weum it it.
For me sometimes it's a way togossip.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Yeah, yeah, okay.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
All right.
Well, it doesn't always meanthat, but it's.
It's like people have to figureout what they want to say, to
get to the point of saying let'spray, instead of just saying I
want to pray for joe, becausethe source, our, our god of our
understanding, already knowsyeah, it's a that kind of comes
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up for me.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
It came up when they started with this fellowship of
Christian athletes.
Oh, what's this?
Speaker 2 (01:26):
I don't know about it .
Speaker 1 (01:27):
I don't know, it's FCA, I don't know.
It became a thing when I was inhigh school and I was like what
is that?
And they were like, oh, we gopray at the pole on whatever day
.
And I was like, oh, okay, I'mthinking, do you not pray at
school?
Like is that?
Because of course somebodytells me you can't pray.
I'm like, oh yeah, let me try.
(01:48):
You don't know, I'm prayingright now.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
I think that's where we think that our words okay,
we're looking at this, thiswhole spiritual experience that
we call prayer, and we'relooking at it from our small
perspective and thinking thatunless we say all the words and
get all of the intention inthere, so that you know, you
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know, you know what I'm talkingabout, and then that energy
together will send the prayerforth.
What I think we don'tunderstand is the prayer is
already sent, it's alreadypresent tense, it belongs in the
moment, and all the explanationin the world is only for the
(02:39):
hearers, it's not for the onewho does answer prayer Answer is
probably not even the rightword the one who already Heard
it.
Already experienced and met theneed for that person.
(02:59):
It's simply awareness that weneed to accept it, because
there's always an exchangebetween us and the God of our
understanding.
As far as respect goes, and asfar as my self-will, I can
choose not to accept thathealing and we do that a lot.
(03:21):
We have things in the way andwe don't want to deal with those
things.
We just want it to magically goaway.
Who of us doesn't want that alot?
We have things in the way, yeah, and we don't want to deal with
those things.
We just want it to magically goaway.
Who of us doesn't want that?
Yeah, except there's somethingthat happens when we have a
chronic thing and we get thedrama from it.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Oh, yeah, for others no.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
I, you get used to those feelings, yeah Right, and
we start to identify with themand so forth, yes, and pull it
over and talk about it and feelit and be intense about it and
then ask for healing.
Yeah, but we're not ready toenter into the the process.
(04:01):
Sometimes it's a long processto be healed, but I believe we
can be healed oh, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
So essentially okay.
So what we're really talkingabout here is are we doing the
energy work ourselves, like onourselves, within our being,
instead of talking?
What?
What is it Talking to talk, butnot walking the walk, or
something?
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Right, very well said .
I purchased a subscription toVlad's.
Oh yeah, I don't know what thatis a podcast, or I don't know.
It's not a podcast, it's ateaching that he has.
So I purchased a year becauseit was very inexpensive, but I
(04:48):
had done a free one with him for31 days.
He called it a 31-day challengeor 21-day challenge.
It takes three weeks to changea habit.
Okay, so I think that's wherethe 21 days came in.
Yeah, so I think that's wherethe 21 days came in.
But anyway, I did it with himand we always started every
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single teaching.
He had started with self ReikiBecause he's a Reiki guru.
I mean, he's good at it andhe's an excellent teacher and he
practices what he preaches.
So I did that for 21 days andit was so enriching.
And I have been one who doesdaily Reiki for myself, and
especially since I moved,because I'm not working on other
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people, there's just me.
I mean, I work on some familymembers that come, but I'm not
talking.
I'm talking that in a businessyou have a daily experience with
people in touch or the kind ofbusinesses we've had which are
touching fields, and I, I havejust been doing Reiki every day
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for myself and it is sowonderful and I do that
wonderful and I do that and thenafterward I send that to all
these 100 and almost 200 peopleevery night and it just feels so
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, so simple, so clear, and Idon't know for each person what
will happen.
I don't even try to know, Idon't even try to do anything
except see their name and seetheir face and send that and
that's.
I do that with each persontwice.
First I set it up, go throughall these people.
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Then I go back and do it againwith them, and so I do it twice
and it is so fulfilling for me Idon't know for them, so it's a
way for me to love them.
There's another thing that'shappened with me that I'm more
aware of now that then I've beendoing it for years, but I've
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come to a conclusion in the lasttwo years, because of that
cancer diagnosis, that my bodyis, in the scriptural words,
temple of the Holy Spirit and Iwalk with that awareness that
this house that I live in isholy and I haven't done a really
(07:29):
good job at taking care of thisbeautiful experience called my
life.
I've done just a lot of thingsI wanted to do and just
disregarded her, but two yearsago she said no more of that, no
more.
If you want, if you want anyhelp from me, you're gonna have
to help me because I'm gettingold.
You're not, but I am, and Irealized that I was I.
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I carry prayer in my body andthat is the best word I can use
and not only do the Reiki for meand give it to others, but I
have these little places in mybody that I put people.
Our body parks memoryeverywhere, not just in the
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brain.
And and so I have these.
I call them slits, they're justlittle tears in my heart and in
my mind's eye.
I see a little note withsomebody's name on it and I
stick it in that.
Not everybody, but there arecertain people in there.
I don't have to think aboutthem anymore.
St Paul, in one of his letters,the epistles, said that we
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needed to pray always, always,and I've taken that literally
and thought you know, it isn'tjust words.
For some reason we seem tothink that unless we explain all
of it and that's where westarted here and get it out, out
, and maybe that explanation ismore for ourselves than anybody
else, but we seem to think thatit's it's all about words.
(09:04):
Saint francis of assisi talksabout, uh, one of one of the
things that he did an amazing,humble man and he.
He was walking along with hisfriars and he came upon a priest
and he honored and respectedthe priest by kissing his ring,
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which is a very formal olden wayof doing things.
It's still done.
When you meet the pope or abishop or an archbishop, that's
how you greet them.
And they walked along and someof the friars started griping to
him and saying you know, why'dyou do that?
He's not even a decent humanbeing.
And he said because I honor theoffice that he holds and I
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honor the Eucharist that heholds and he shares with us.
He said I honor that.
And he said my hope is by doingthat he will come to a change
of heart.
And I really believe that theseprayer things I've got going on
in my body and different ways inwhich I experience them going
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on in my body and different waysin which I experience them.
Sometimes it's walking.
When I walk, I like that to bemy prayer time and I have a
rosary that I carry and I praythat for lots of different
reasons, but usually for myfamily, and that is an outside
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experience of touching the beadsand moving them and praying the
words in the old prayers.
But the intention is what'sbehind the rosary?
It's not the rosary itself andit's not the words, but it's the
intention and it is a format inwhich I can touch the prayer
for the loved ones that I have.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
Oh yeah, and that's probably why it was easy for you
to visualize that.
It's interesting.
You say that because I havejust recently been.
We're working on our book.
I just left that and I wonderedhow wonderful and we were, I, in
trying to come up with wordsthat kind of describe things, I
finally have gotten to the pointwhere I'm like, okay, I'm just
(11:19):
going to tell people this,because apparently other people
don't have this image in theirhead, but it reminds me very
much of what you're talkingabout.
They don't, they really can't,yeah, but from what I remember,
I've always had that, and it'slike when you talk to somebody
or you meet somebody, yes,they're in a physical body, yes,
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they have a voice, name or whattheir role was or any of that
3D kind of stuff.
So I have this and because I'ma visual, like I have, you know,
(12:08):
obviously I have a fine artsdegree, I'm a visual person, but
it's not the only way I canperceive things.
I just had this image of you,know, but that's not that person
.
How do I know?
Well, that's not that person.
How do I?
Well, what is that person?
Well, I don't know what theyare, but just imagine them as
like a puff of smoke or it'slike this puff of stuff that
doesn't have clear edges, butthat's what they are.
They're more of that than theyare the physical body that
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they're in, but it's verysimilar to what you're talking
about.
If you just tuck away that,tuck away that prayer for them,
it does what you're talkingabout.
If you just tuck away that,tuck away that prayer for them,
it does, it becomes part of yourentire being.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
And then you walk around and that's what it is
Every so often for my heart,because I want to remember I'm
praying, but I want my body toremember.
I tap it oh yeah, yeah, andthat I just think.
Well, it jumpstarts that heartto say oh yeah, Okay.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
You know, it probably gets you out of your headspace
and down into your heart fastertoo, I would imagine.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
I remember Father Mack was our chaplain at Central
Catholic High School in GreatFalls and he had an interesting
life.
As far as a priest goes, hewasn't a parish priest.
He belonged to the diocese buthe wasn't a parish priest,
wasn't you know?
We belong to the diocese but hewasn't a parish priest.
He was a teacher of biology okayand he would talk to the kids
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and one of his, one of hispreachings was always about it's
it's 12 foot a 12 inch rule.
It's 12 inches from the brainto the heart.
Oh, and it's a long 12 inchessometimes.
Yeah, I thought that was socool because that is a a
physical image you can take toheart and realize sometimes,
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what we got going on up here inthis, this uh fabulous brain,
isn't so good down here in theheart and we need to, I would
say.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
I would venture to say it's really helped.
But I mean talking about itbeing so far like we're just
we're in that so much and theoutside world encourages that so
much well and we courageencourage.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
Now we don't encourage conversation.
It's a.
It's a real poor medium now inthe way we're educating
educating children, educatingyoung adults and I would say up
to about 40.
It's a really lost art.
That's happening withcommunication and a control of
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emotion and that isn't that.
It isn't there there, but itisn't as practiced, as much.
It doesn't need to be when youhave a device between you and
the other person and I thinkthat that we we, we have this
loss going on and because we do,we don't have the articulation
(14:58):
of data and knowledge going intothe brain.
It's not the end, all be all.
It's not just because it'sknowledge doesn't mean it's fact
, and just because it'sknowledge doesn't mean it
addresses emotions, and justbecause it's knowledge doesn't
mean it works.
It's simply knowledge.
(15:19):
It's how each individual beginsto sort through it and live it
and give it meaning.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
Yeah, which is interesting because when I went
to my son's graduation this pastspring, first off, I didn't
realize how much I did notreally enjoy high school.
Until I'm sitting there at thegraduation and I'm like I don't
have anything with me, I don'tlike I don't have a device to
distract me or whatever.
I don't have anything I know,like, and I I finally realized
(15:51):
my daughter was there with afriend and I finally realized if
I, as I listened to what theysaid and just imagine myself
there, you know, I just thoughtto myself myself.
You know, if I had grown up witha computer in my hand that
would play music anytime andlittle things that go in my ear
that nobody can see, you can betyour bottom dollar I'd have had
(16:11):
that stuff in and I'd have hada sound director in my life and
I'd have been so much happieryeah absolutely.
I could be alone and in a groupand nobody would know yeah, yeah
, I kind of wonder like, is thiscreation that we have come up
with this internet and all thatyou know, devices and all that?
Is it really just going in asense like going down the path
(16:36):
of what you're talking about,which creates an issue with
communication and a lack ofconnection with people?
It just goes down the path alittle bit farther.
So then it gives us someirritation that we can say, oh
wait, that's not okay, that'stoo much of it, and then we can
do a course correction.
You know, it's not that theinformation itself is bad, as
you were saying.
It's what we do with thatinformation, right?
(16:58):
So it's not that the knowledgeis not bad.
And that's interesting too,because I think these
generations that have grown upwith the internet one thing that
I saw, even as a teacher, wasand a parent like holy cow, you
guys, the young people who grewup like this they have to use
different parts of their brainto figure out what is something
(17:20):
that's worth, that has a value,that makes it worth consuming
and digesting and believing orgetting on board with or any of
that, whereas when I was in highschool, if it was in paper,
that meant a lot of other adultsseemed to think it was
important and well done, right?
So we didn't have that, that,that whole thing, or like, is
(17:42):
this garbage that I'm readingright?
But filters were there.
Yeah, they were there, but nowit's not.
It's like anybody who can makea page and that does not take
much to be able to put somethingon the internet well, and I
don't know what for the, forthis generation.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
I don't know what that's going to look at, because
each generation has the seedsfor its own healing.
Yeah, some of us, uh, get someof the healing done and some of
us don't.
In our own generation, you knowmine, mine, sold out to money
and economics, oh yeah, big time.
I mean everybody wants to berich, right, everybody wants to
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own, and not just a little bitbut a lot, whether you need it
or not.
And that's my generation.
I mean we want the cushyretirement and we want to be
able to travel and have noproblems.
It's a real big revelation toturn, let's say, between 65 and
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70 and have your health go toheck, you know, and all those
things you hoped and dreamed andplanned for are limited.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
That's an eye opener Now for those who have worked
really hard at their health andkept things going.
Those who have worked reallyhard at their health and kept
things going.
How hard it is for a couplewhen they both get there and
they've both been enthusiastsfor their health, but only one
of them has health.
Yeah, how frustrating, yeah.
(19:17):
And so my generation has itsown issues it has to deal with,
and the next generation has yourgeneration has some other
things to deal with.
Well, your kids will too.
Oh yeah, it's different and wedon't know what's better than
the other.
We think we do.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
I don't think anything is better than the
other.
I think it's just differentyeah.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
It's just different and I believe in those young
people.
Now, I don't like some of thethings they do, but why would I?
It's not something I get.
Yeah, you know it's notsomething I understand, but I do
believe in them and I believethat there are a lot of good
ones in there who want to begood leaders and good people and
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they have some things to say.
They're not mature enough yetto do it, but we're seeing a few
of them and they're showing upbetween 40 and 50 years old, but
they're really a few of them.
But when you move back downinto this younger age with your
daughter and son, and thenyounger than that, with the
preteens entering their teenageyears, yeah, we've got some
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different people going.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
Well, yeah, I think they're all.
I think you know they're all.
Everybody's got theirgenerations.
It's they are havingbreakthroughs, and you know some
of the issues as generations.
I think is also like, how do youwork with the older generations
?
Like, how does it, how do youmeld with them?
So, like my generation, do youwork with the older generations?
Like, how does it, how do youmeld with them?
So, like my generation found away, like one of the things I
(20:47):
read about my generation Ithought, oh yeah, that really is
spot on was that you know, Ithink we were the latch key kids
, so both parents had startedworking Right, and so we were
independent.
And so they make the joke aboutmy generation of you know,
these, the kids now where theyneed their parents to do all
this stuff, when you know, likewe were two and four years old
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over there, like taking care ofthe other sibling and doing all
this stuff because parents wereat work or whatever.
And and you know, everysituation comes up with its own
issues, like every, becauseeverybody, just every person,
does right, like it doesn'tmatter what, what your situation
is, you are going to have aresponse to it, and it could be
traumatic and it could besomething you have to go through
to figure out.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
Yeah, well, and family looks altogether
different today, and what ouryoung people experience as
family is so different.
Um, you know, when I wasgrowing up, you went home at
night to supper.
If your friend came to play ona saturday and you were having
breakfast, they waited on thestep until you got done with
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breakfast and you went out toplay.
There wasn't, um, there wasn't.
This everybody is a part ofthis and we got eight people
spending the night and oh yeah,no, no, there was, there, wasn't
that?
Um, it just looked differentfor family and, and then how we
experience friends and, andthere was agreement among adults
(22:18):
yes yeah, this is how you didfamily and it's kind of funny.
but I grew up in a little dinkytown, you know, like 400 souls
and, um, you know they helpedraise the rest of us.
I mean, if I, I, if I didsomething I shouldn't have, my
mother knew about it before Igot home and I don't know how
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she knew, but they probablynabbed one of my brothers or
sisters and told them and sentthem home to blabber, and that's
not true now no, no, uh, prettysoon though, okay, uh, so what
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we had made notes on last time,like you know we were, we were
touching on it before.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
but like this idea of people who are leading or you
it doesn't matter what kind ofleadership role it if you've got
somebody in there who's tellingyou how to move the energy or
how to work the energy ifthey're not doing the work
themselves.
You know, that's pretty, Ithink, depending on where the
person is right, like, because Ithink as energy healers we know
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we kind of can see where, ish,the person is when we talk to
them, whether they're a leaderor teacher or not.
And so I think, at least forthose of us who have done the
work, it is kind of easier tosee oh, you're doing all this,
talking about this stuff, butyou're not actually doing the
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work.
I don't know, do you think thatpeople who haven't done that
kind of work before, do youthink that they can see that?
Or do you think it even matters?
Because if they can't see that,then they just haven't done
that amount of work, becausewhoever is teaching has to have
done some work.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
Well, I would say they've done work, but I think
sometimes we get caught up in adirection that we prefer and we
forget we have to stay in thetrenches too, because things
shift in us.
The teaching doesn't alwayshave to have new stuff, but it
needs to have a freshening ofwhat we share, and that needs to
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come with our aging in ourpractical side aging in our
practical side.
You know, I am really kind ofamazed at how I'm feeling about
the Reiki by just daily payingattention to me.
You know, I have spent what 25years focused on other people.
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I did the Reiki for myself, butthe focus, the focus was other
people, and I love it.
I mean, one of the things forme at night is I can't hardly
wait until I have my time aloneto send the Reiki.
It's such a joy in that it's atime for me to love the people
(25:23):
who have asked for help or seekit or in some way have indicated
that they need it.
And I don't begin to interpretwhat that means.
If I spent time in that that um, clairvoyant side, I would know
, but I deliberately don't,because I believe that's kind of
(25:46):
an invasion of their um, theirown will well, I also think that
it's like what's the point,like why does it matter?
Exactly None of my business.
Truthfully, I don't want thatfor me.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
Well, I think it's.
If you ask, that's different.
Yeah, I think it's very tellingthat, as experienced as you are
, when you make a shift and youmake it more about yourself, how
eye-opening that is for anybody.
Because I mean, I know when wefirst met that was one of the
first things you said is youteach, you teach people Reiki,
and then you know, check in withthem later and they're not
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doing it.
You know, and I'm just asguilty, cause I took the course
and I was like, oh, this isgreat, that's nice, I could do
this for other people.
And then I didn't worry aboutit and I was like, well,
whatever.
And then I realized, well, Idon't want to defend it, I don't
want to argue about it, like,if you're, then we'll do it, if
not, that's fine.
But you know, when I got to thepoint where I was like, okay, I
have to do this and we're jokingaround about this and we're
(26:44):
pushing it off, was when I hadsome sort of physical.
I think it was probablytendonitis or something.
Some something got irritatedwithin me, in my physical body
and I was like, oh, I don't wantto do this, I don't want to go
to the doctor, I don't want totake the pills.
You know, like I, like I don'teven want to believe any of that
stuff, that whole.
You know about what it is andhow do you and I was like you
(27:06):
know what I do believe in is Ireally do believe in the Ricky.
So you know what I'm going todo it and I'll tell you it did
okay, I definitely felt it, andthen the next day it was so much
better and I was like, oh, thisis so easy, you know.
But I didn't take that timeuntil I was really dreading,
going outside of myself again togo get support.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
Yes, it's amazing, and my friend Sandy and I are
going to Tai Chi, which we'vedone all these last years, and
we also, because it was back toback.
We're also taking qigong andit's just a basic eight brocade
qigong, and I've never studiedum qigong, I've done it with
(27:52):
people, yeah, but I'm hooked.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
I want to embrace that and learn what healing
comes in that too so into thebody and you have to go through
this motion and you're spendingthe time in the motion while
you're paying attention to thebody, which means the mind shuts
up, just like the greatestthing it is wonderful.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
It is wonderful and so it's like the reiki is.
Is is creating this environmentup here in the brain that is
going down here and saying what,what else is there that I need
to follow?
You know to be the best versionof me that I can be.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
Because that's what we're going to do.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah .
Speaker 2 (28:46):
You know, and then hopefully that's manifested
enough that others feel healingwhen they're with you.
I don't think we always have tosay things.
I don't think we always have tointend them.
I don't think we always have tointend them.
I don't think we always have toask somebody.
I think sometimes our merepresence affects the people
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around us in a way that feelsgood.
When we feel better, we heal.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
You have to.
Well, I think that's a naturalstate of things, right, I agree.
Heal, you have to, well, Ithink that's a natural state of
things, right, I agree.
If we're honestly in alignmentwith ourselves, then we're
projecting out that energyyou're talking about.
The other person recognizes oh,they're in alignment.
That feels really good whenthey get drawn, they just like
to kind of like closer yeah well, that's what they talk about
(29:35):
with animals and babies andstuff like that yeah, exactly
same kind of thing, except I'venever really been attracted to
me.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
People say you want to hold my baby, don't you?
Speaker 1 (29:47):
no thanks that's you, that's not them.
I'm sure the baby wants to cometo you oh, I don't know a lot.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
Babies in Haiti loved me and I figured out after I
left Haiti that it was becauseof my warm body.
It was winter there and I heldthese I think it was three
different babies I mean babybabies and they, they just
snuggled into me and I, you know, I'm, I'm a grandma body and
it's warm and it's it's fluffy,fluffy and it's, you know, it's
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a safe, pillowy place to be, andso I think that they found a
comfort and a safety there, andso it was.
Yeah, don't give me away, it'swarm.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
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People sometimes in groups needto do a big explanation about
what they're praying about, orit's a way to tell you all about
their experience with a personor an event, and then we pray.
I mean they say we pray.
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I mean they say we pray or weum it it.
For me sometimes it's a way togossip.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Yeah, yeah, okay.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
All right.
Well, it doesn't always meanthat, but it's.
It's like people have to figureout what they want to say, to
get to the point of saying let'spray, instead of just saying I
want to pray for joe, becausethe source, our, our god of our
understanding, already knowsyeah, it's a that kind of comes
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up for me.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
It came up when they started with this fellowship of
Christian athletes.
Oh, what's this?
Speaker 2 (01:26):
I don't know about it .
Speaker 1 (01:27):
I don't know, it's FCA, I don't know.
It became a thing when I was inhigh school and I was like what
is that?
And they were like, oh, we gopray at the pole on whatever day
.
And I was like, oh, okay, I'mthinking, do you not pray at
school?
Like is that?
Because of course somebodytells me you can't pray.
I'm like, oh yeah, let me try.
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You don't know, I'm prayingright now.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
I think that's where we think that our words okay,
we're looking at this, thiswhole spiritual experience that
we call prayer, and we'relooking at it from our small
perspective and thinking thatunless we say all the words and
get all of the intention inthere, so that you know, you
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know, you know what I'm talkingabout, and then that energy
together will send the prayerforth.
What I think we don'tunderstand is the prayer is
already sent, it's alreadypresent tense, it belongs in the
moment, and all the explanationin the world is only for the
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hearers, it's not for the onewho does answer prayer Answer is
probably not even the rightword the one who already Heard
it.
Already experienced and met theneed for that person.
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It's simply awareness that weneed to accept it, because
there's always an exchangebetween us and the God of our
understanding.
As far as respect goes, and asfar as my self-will, I can
choose not to accept thathealing and we do that a lot.
(03:21):
We have things in the way andwe don't want to deal with those
things.
We just want it to magically goaway.
Who of us doesn't want that alot?
We have things in the way, yeah, and we don't want to deal with
those things.
We just want it to magically goaway.
Who of us doesn't want that?
Yeah, except there's somethingthat happens when we have a
chronic thing and we get thedrama from it.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Oh, yeah, for others no.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
I, you get used to those feelings, yeah Right, and
we start to identify with themand so forth, yes, and pull it
over and talk about it and feelit and be intense about it and
then ask for healing.
Yeah, but we're not ready toenter into the the process.
(04:01):
Sometimes it's a long processto be healed, but I believe we
can be healed oh, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
So essentially okay.
So what we're really talkingabout here is are we doing the
energy work ourselves, like onourselves, within our being,
instead of talking?
What?
What is it Talking to talk, butnot walking the walk, or
something?
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Right, very well said .
I purchased a subscription toVlad's.
Oh yeah, I don't know what thatis a podcast, or I don't know.
It's not a podcast, it's ateaching that he has.
So I purchased a year becauseit was very inexpensive, but I
(04:48):
had done a free one with him for31 days.
He called it a 31-day challengeor 21-day challenge.
It takes three weeks to changea habit.
Okay, so I think that's wherethe 21 days came in.
Yeah, so I think that's wherethe 21 days came in.
But anyway, I did it with himand we always started every
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single teaching.
He had started with self ReikiBecause he's a Reiki guru.
I mean, he's good at it andhe's an excellent teacher and he
practices what he preaches.
So I did that for 21 days andit was so enriching.
And I have been one who doesdaily Reiki for myself, and
especially since I moved,because I'm not working on other
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people, there's just me.
I mean, I work on some familymembers that come, but I'm not
talking.
I'm talking that in a businessyou have a daily experience with
people in touch or the kind ofbusinesses we've had which are
touching fields, and I, I havejust been doing Reiki every day
(05:57):
for myself and it is sowonderful and I do that
wonderful and I do that and thenafterward I send that to all
these 100 and almost 200 peopleevery night and it just feels so
(06:19):
, so simple, so clear, and Idon't know for each person what
will happen.
I don't even try to know, Idon't even try to do anything
except see their name and seetheir face and send that and
that's.
I do that with each persontwice.
First I set it up, go throughall these people.
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Then I go back and do it againwith them, and so I do it twice
and it is so fulfilling for me Idon't know for them, so it's a
way for me to love them.
There's another thing that'shappened with me that I'm more
aware of now that then I've beendoing it for years, but I've
(07:05):
come to a conclusion in the lasttwo years, because of that
cancer diagnosis, that my bodyis, in the scriptural words,
temple of the Holy Spirit and Iwalk with that awareness that
this house that I live in isholy and I haven't done a really
(07:29):
good job at taking care of thisbeautiful experience called my
life.
I've done just a lot of thingsI wanted to do and just
disregarded her, but two yearsago she said no more of that, no
more.
If you want, if you want anyhelp from me, you're gonna have
to help me because I'm gettingold.
You're not, but I am, and Irealized that I was I.
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I carry prayer in my body andthat is the best word I can use
and not only do the Reiki for meand give it to others, but I
have these little places in mybody that I put people.
Our body parks memoryeverywhere, not just in the
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brain.
And and so I have these.
I call them slits, they're justlittle tears in my heart and in
my mind's eye.
I see a little note withsomebody's name on it and I
stick it in that.
Not everybody, but there arecertain people in there.
I don't have to think aboutthem anymore.
St Paul, in one of his letters,the epistles, said that we
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needed to pray always, always,and I've taken that literally
and thought you know, it isn'tjust words.
For some reason we seem tothink that unless we explain all
of it and that's where westarted here and get it out, out
, and maybe that explanation ismore for ourselves than anybody
else, but we seem to think thatit's it's all about words.
(09:04):
Saint francis of assisi talksabout, uh, one of one of the
things that he did an amazing,humble man and he.
He was walking along with hisfriars and he came upon a priest
and he honored and respectedthe priest by kissing his ring,
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which is a very formal olden wayof doing things.
It's still done.
When you meet the pope or abishop or an archbishop, that's
how you greet them.
And they walked along and someof the friars started griping to
him and saying you know, why'dyou do that?
He's not even a decent humanbeing.
And he said because I honor theoffice that he holds and I
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honor the Eucharist that heholds and he shares with us.
He said I honor that.
And he said my hope is by doingthat he will come to a change
of heart.
And I really believe that theseprayer things I've got going on
in my body and different ways inwhich I experience them going
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on in my body and different waysin which I experience them.
Sometimes it's walking.
When I walk, I like that to bemy prayer time and I have a
rosary that I carry and I praythat for lots of different
reasons, but usually for myfamily, and that is an outside
(10:40):
experience of touching the beadsand moving them and praying the
words in the old prayers.
But the intention is what'sbehind the rosary?
It's not the rosary itself andit's not the words, but it's the
intention and it is a format inwhich I can touch the prayer
for the loved ones that I have.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
Oh yeah, and that's probably why it was easy for you
to visualize that.
It's interesting.
You say that because I havejust recently been.
We're working on our book.
I just left that and I wonderedhow wonderful and we were, I, in
trying to come up with wordsthat kind of describe things, I
finally have gotten to the pointwhere I'm like, okay, I'm just
(11:19):
going to tell people this,because apparently other people
don't have this image in theirhead, but it reminds me very
much of what you're talkingabout.
They don't, they really can't,yeah, but from what I remember,
I've always had that, and it'slike when you talk to somebody
or you meet somebody, yes,they're in a physical body, yes,
(11:40):
they have a voice, name or whattheir role was or any of that
3D kind of stuff.
So I have this and because I'ma visual, like I have, you know,
(12:08):
obviously I have a fine artsdegree, I'm a visual person, but
it's not the only way I canperceive things.
I just had this image of you,know, but that's not that person
.
How do I know?
Well, that's not that person.
How do I?
Well, what is that person?
Well, I don't know what theyare, but just imagine them as
like a puff of smoke or it'slike this puff of stuff that
doesn't have clear edges, butthat's what they are.
They're more of that than theyare the physical body that
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they're in, but it's verysimilar to what you're talking
about.
If you just tuck away that,tuck away that prayer for them,
it does what you're talkingabout.
If you just tuck away that,tuck away that prayer for them,
it does, it becomes part of yourentire being.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
And then you walk around and that's what it is
Every so often for my heart,because I want to remember I'm
praying, but I want my body toremember.
I tap it oh yeah, yeah, andthat I just think.
Well, it jumpstarts that heartto say oh yeah, Okay.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
You know, it probably gets you out of your headspace
and down into your heart fastertoo, I would imagine.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
I remember Father Mack was our chaplain at Central
Catholic High School in GreatFalls and he had an interesting
life.
As far as a priest goes, hewasn't a parish priest.
He belonged to the diocese buthe wasn't a parish priest,
wasn't you know?
We belong to the diocese but hewasn't a parish priest.
He was a teacher of biology okayand he would talk to the kids
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and one of his, one of hispreachings was always about it's
it's 12 foot a 12 inch rule.
It's 12 inches from the brainto the heart.
Oh, and it's a long 12 inchessometimes.
Yeah, I thought that was socool because that is a a
physical image you can take toheart and realize sometimes,
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what we got going on up here inthis, this uh fabulous brain,
isn't so good down here in theheart and we need to, I would
say.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
I would venture to say it's really helped.
But I mean talking about itbeing so far like we're just
we're in that so much and theoutside world encourages that so
much well and we courageencourage.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
Now we don't encourage conversation.
It's a.
It's a real poor medium now inthe way we're educating
educating children, educatingyoung adults and I would say up
to about 40.
It's a really lost art.
That's happening withcommunication and a control of
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emotion and that isn't that.
It isn't there there, but itisn't as practiced, as much.
It doesn't need to be when youhave a device between you and
the other person and I thinkthat that we we, we have this
loss going on and because we do,we don't have the articulation
(14:58):
of data and knowledge going intothe brain.
It's not the end, all be all.
It's not just because it'sknowledge doesn't mean it's fact
, and just because it'sknowledge doesn't mean it
addresses emotions, and justbecause it's knowledge doesn't
mean it works.
It's simply knowledge.
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It's how each individual beginsto sort through it and live it
and give it meaning.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
Yeah, which is interesting because when I went
to my son's graduation this pastspring, first off, I didn't
realize how much I did notreally enjoy high school.
Until I'm sitting there at thegraduation and I'm like I don't
have anything with me, I don'tlike I don't have a device to
distract me or whatever.
I don't have anything I know,like, and I I finally realized
(15:51):
my daughter was there with afriend and I finally realized if
I, as I listened to what theysaid and just imagine myself
there, you know, I just thoughtto myself myself.
You know, if I had grown up witha computer in my hand that
would play music anytime andlittle things that go in my ear
that nobody can see, you can betyour bottom dollar I'd have had
(16:11):
that stuff in and I'd have hada sound director in my life and
I'd have been so much happieryeah absolutely.
I could be alone and in a groupand nobody would know yeah, yeah
, I kind of wonder like, is thiscreation that we have come up
with this internet and all thatyou know, devices and all that?
Is it really just going in asense like going down the path
(16:36):
of what you're talking about,which creates an issue with
communication and a lack ofconnection with people?
It just goes down the path alittle bit farther.
So then it gives us someirritation that we can say, oh
wait, that's not okay, that'stoo much of it, and then we can
do a course correction.
You know, it's not that theinformation itself is bad, as
you were saying.
It's what we do with thatinformation, right?
(16:58):
So it's not that the knowledgeis not bad.
And that's interesting too,because I think these
generations that have grown upwith the internet one thing that
I saw, even as a teacher, wasand a parent like holy cow, you
guys, the young people who grewup like this they have to use
different parts of their brainto figure out what is something
(17:20):
that's worth, that has a value,that makes it worth consuming
and digesting and believing orgetting on board with or any of
that, whereas when I was in highschool, if it was in paper,
that meant a lot of other adultsseemed to think it was
important and well done, right?
So we didn't have that, that,that whole thing, or like, is
(17:42):
this garbage that I'm readingright?
But filters were there.
Yeah, they were there, but nowit's not.
It's like anybody who can makea page and that does not take
much to be able to put somethingon the internet well, and I
don't know what for the, forthis generation.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
I don't know what that's going to look at, because
each generation has the seedsfor its own healing.
Yeah, some of us, uh, get someof the healing done and some of
us don't.
In our own generation, you knowmine, mine, sold out to money
and economics, oh yeah, big time.
I mean everybody wants to berich, right, everybody wants to
(18:20):
own, and not just a little bitbut a lot, whether you need it
or not.
And that's my generation.
I mean we want the cushyretirement and we want to be
able to travel and have noproblems.
It's a real big revelation toturn, let's say, between 65 and
(18:42):
70 and have your health go toheck, you know, and all those
things you hoped and dreamed andplanned for are limited.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
That's an eye opener Now for those who have worked
really hard at their health andkept things going.
Those who have worked reallyhard at their health and kept
things going.
How hard it is for a couplewhen they both get there and
they've both been enthusiastsfor their health, but only one
of them has health.
Yeah, how frustrating, yeah.
(19:17):
And so my generation has itsown issues it has to deal with,
and the next generation has yourgeneration has some other
things to deal with.
Well, your kids will too.
Oh yeah, it's different and wedon't know what's better than
the other.
We think we do.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
I don't think anything is better than the
other.
I think it's just differentyeah.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
It's just different and I believe in those young
people.
Now, I don't like some of thethings they do, but why would I?
It's not something I get.
Yeah, you know it's notsomething I understand, but I do
believe in them and I believethat there are a lot of good
ones in there who want to begood leaders and good people and
(20:01):
they have some things to say.
They're not mature enough yetto do it, but we're seeing a few
of them and they're showing upbetween 40 and 50 years old, but
they're really a few of them.
But when you move back downinto this younger age with your
daughter and son, and thenyounger than that, with the
preteens entering their teenageyears, yeah, we've got some
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different people going.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
Well, yeah, I think they're all.
I think you know they're all.
Everybody's got theirgenerations.
It's they are havingbreakthroughs, and you know some
of the issues as generations.
I think is also like, how do youwork with the older generations
?
Like, how does it, how do youmeld with them?
So, like my generation, do youwork with the older generations?
Like, how does it, how do youmeld with them?
So, like my generation found away, like one of the things I
(20:47):
read about my generation Ithought, oh yeah, that really is
spot on was that you know, Ithink we were the latch key kids
, so both parents had startedworking Right, and so we were
independent.
And so they make the joke aboutmy generation of you know,
these, the kids now where theyneed their parents to do all
this stuff, when you know, likewe were two and four years old
(21:07):
over there, like taking care ofthe other sibling and doing all
this stuff because parents wereat work or whatever.
And and you know, everysituation comes up with its own
issues, like every, becauseeverybody, just every person,
does right, like it doesn'tmatter what, what your situation
is, you are going to have aresponse to it, and it could be
traumatic and it could besomething you have to go through
to figure out.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
Yeah, well, and family looks altogether
different today, and what ouryoung people experience as
family is so different.
Um, you know, when I wasgrowing up, you went home at
night to supper.
If your friend came to play ona saturday and you were having
breakfast, they waited on thestep until you got done with
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breakfast and you went out toplay.
There wasn't, um, there wasn't.
This everybody is a part ofthis and we got eight people
spending the night and oh yeah,no, no, there was, there, wasn't
that?
Um, it just looked differentfor family and, and then how we
experience friends and, andthere was agreement among adults
(22:18):
yes yeah, this is how you didfamily and it's kind of funny.
but I grew up in a little dinkytown, you know, like 400 souls
and, um, you know they helpedraise the rest of us.
I mean, if I, I, if I didsomething I shouldn't have, my
mother knew about it before Igot home and I don't know how
(22:39):
she knew, but they probablynabbed one of my brothers or
sisters and told them and sentthem home to blabber, and that's
not true now no, no, uh, prettysoon though, okay, uh, so what
(23:04):
we had made notes on last time,like you know we were, we were
touching on it before.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
but like this idea of people who are leading or you
it doesn't matter what kind ofleadership role it if you've got
somebody in there who's tellingyou how to move the energy or
how to work the energy ifthey're not doing the work
themselves.
You know, that's pretty, Ithink, depending on where the
person is right, like, because Ithink as energy healers we know
(23:33):
we kind of can see where, ish,the person is when we talk to
them, whether they're a leaderor teacher or not.
And so I think, at least forthose of us who have done the
work, it is kind of easier tosee oh, you're doing all this,
talking about this stuff, butyou're not actually doing the
(23:54):
work.
I don't know, do you think thatpeople who haven't done that
kind of work before, do youthink that they can see that?
Or do you think it even matters?
Because if they can't see that,then they just haven't done
that amount of work, becausewhoever is teaching has to have
done some work.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
Well, I would say they've done work, but I think
sometimes we get caught up in adirection that we prefer and we
forget we have to stay in thetrenches too, because things
shift in us.
The teaching doesn't alwayshave to have new stuff, but it
needs to have a freshening ofwhat we share, and that needs to
(24:31):
come with our aging in ourpractical side aging in our
practical side.
You know, I am really kind ofamazed at how I'm feeling about
the Reiki by just daily payingattention to me.
You know, I have spent what 25years focused on other people.
(24:57):
I did the Reiki for myself, butthe focus, the focus was other
people, and I love it.
I mean, one of the things forme at night is I can't hardly
wait until I have my time aloneto send the Reiki.
It's such a joy in that it's atime for me to love the people
(25:23):
who have asked for help or seekit or in some way have indicated
that they need it.
And I don't begin to interpretwhat that means.
If I spent time in that that um, clairvoyant side, I would know
, but I deliberately don't,because I believe that's kind of
(25:46):
an invasion of their um, theirown will well, I also think that
it's like what's the point,like why does it matter?
Exactly None of my business.
Truthfully, I don't want thatfor me.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
Well, I think it's.
If you ask, that's different.
Yeah, I think it's very tellingthat, as experienced as you are
, when you make a shift and youmake it more about yourself, how
eye-opening that is for anybody.
Because I mean, I know when wefirst met that was one of the
first things you said is youteach, you teach people Reiki,
and then you know, check in withthem later and they're not
(26:23):
doing it.
You know, and I'm just asguilty, cause I took the course
and I was like, oh, this isgreat, that's nice, I could do
this for other people.
And then I didn't worry aboutit and I was like, well,
whatever.
And then I realized, well, Idon't want to defend it, I don't
want to argue about it, like,if you're, then we'll do it, if
not, that's fine.
But you know, when I got to thepoint where I was like, okay, I
have to do this and we're jokingaround about this and we're
(26:44):
pushing it off, was when I hadsome sort of physical.
I think it was probablytendonitis or something.
Some something got irritatedwithin me, in my physical body
and I was like, oh, I don't wantto do this, I don't want to go
to the doctor, I don't want totake the pills.
You know, like I, like I don'teven want to believe any of that
stuff, that whole.
You know about what it is andhow do you and I was like you
(27:06):
know what I do believe in is Ireally do believe in the Ricky.
So you know what I'm going todo it and I'll tell you it did
okay, I definitely felt it, andthen the next day it was so much
better and I was like, oh, thisis so easy, you know.
But I didn't take that timeuntil I was really dreading,
going outside of myself again togo get support.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
Yes, it's amazing, and my friend Sandy and I are
going to Tai Chi, which we'vedone all these last years, and
we also, because it was back toback.
We're also taking qigong andit's just a basic eight brocade
qigong, and I've never studiedum qigong, I've done it with
(27:52):
people, yeah, but I'm hooked.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
I want to embrace that and learn what healing
comes in that too so into thebody and you have to go through
this motion and you're spendingthe time in the motion while
you're paying attention to thebody, which means the mind shuts
up, just like the greatestthing it is wonderful.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
It is wonderful and so it's like the reiki is.
Is is creating this environmentup here in the brain that is
going down here and saying what,what else is there that I need
to follow?
You know to be the best versionof me that I can be.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
Because that's what we're going to do.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah .
Speaker 2 (28:46):
You know, and then hopefully that's manifested
enough that others feel healingwhen they're with you.
I don't think we always have tosay things.
I don't think we always have tointend them.
I don't think we always have tointend them.
I don't think we always have toask somebody.
I think sometimes our merepresence affects the people
(29:07):
around us in a way that feelsgood.
When we feel better, we heal.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
You have to.
Well, I think that's a naturalstate of things, right, I agree.
Heal, you have to, well, Ithink that's a natural state of
things, right, I agree.
If we're honestly in alignmentwith ourselves, then we're
projecting out that energyyou're talking about.
The other person recognizes oh,they're in alignment.
That feels really good whenthey get drawn, they just like
to kind of like closer yeah well, that's what they talk about
(29:35):
with animals and babies andstuff like that yeah, exactly
same kind of thing, except I'venever really been attracted to
me.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
People say you want to hold my baby, don't you?
Speaker 1 (29:47):
no thanks that's you, that's not them.
I'm sure the baby wants to cometo you oh, I don't know a lot.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
Babies in Haiti loved me and I figured out after I
left Haiti that it was becauseof my warm body.
It was winter there and I heldthese I think it was three
different babies I mean babybabies and they, they just
snuggled into me and I, you know, I'm, I'm a grandma body and
it's warm and it's it's fluffy,fluffy and it's, you know, it's
(30:20):
a safe, pillowy place to be, andso I think that they found a
comfort and a safety there, andso it was.
Yeah, don't give me away, it'swarm.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
Thanks for listening to this episode of Mystical and
Infamous Podcast with the HappyLion Center.
Send requests for topicdiscussions, questions and
comments to podcast athappylioncentercom.
That's podcast athappylioncentercom, Thank you.
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