November 24, 2024 • 33 mins
You may feel like you have no control over when your out-of-body experiences occur… like they just happen whenever, and you can’t do anything about it.
But let me tell you - that couldn't be further from the truth. You absolutely DO have the power to take charge of these experiences in a way that's deeply empowering and beneficial.
The key is understanding how the different higher aspects of yourself communicate and function together. Once you unlock that wisdom, a whole new world of conscious exploration and mastery opens up.
You'll want to dive into this episode to discover just how much potential lies within you. By tapping into capabilities you may not even realize you have, you can shape your OBEs with intention.
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So, your out-of-bodyexperiences happen whenever.
You feel like there's no way to controlit or that you just don't have the
ability to control it. And it justdoes what it does whenever it wants to.
And you're not even able to stop itwhen you don't want it to happen.
But I want you to understand that notonly do you have the ability to control
your out-of-body experiences,
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you also have the ability to manage itin a way where you can do what you want
to do with it and allow for itto be very beneficial to you.
The key is to knowing howthose parts of yourself that
allow for these experience to happenwork. How do they communicate?
And what's a way of tapping into thoseparts so that you can use the ability
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that you already have?Let's talk about that.
Welcome back to another episode,I'm Vernita. And on today's episode,
we're going to talk about the power thatyou have to control your spontaneous
out-of-body experiences.Now, like I said before,
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in order for you to controlyour experiences with the ability that you already
have, the ability to control it,
you have to know how theaspects of yourself work that allow for it to happen in
the first place. But even before that,
you have to know what arethose aspects of yourself. And,
and if you recall from other episodes,
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I talked about your higher self beingthe part of you that allows for this to
happen, but it goes deeper than that. See,
before we talk about the higher self,
let's take a step back and talkabout your origins as a soul
and the three primary forms of being.
So I always talk about how you're notyour body. You are a soul that's made up
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of spirit. And spirit is like raw energy.
That's not in any form,it's just expressing itself.
And you can think of this rawenergy expression as light
that is expressing itself.Before light expressed itself,
it was absorbed unto itself. That isthe source from which everything is,
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was and always will beall light with within the
electromagnetic frequencies that weknow of that is absorbed within itself.
That's not expressing that atsome point began to express
itself, which is how we seeall light as being white.
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Before it expressed itself, it was dark,
light absorbed into itself. So nowafter that light expressed itself,
right, and we have white light,
that's just raw energy that'sjust shining brightly everywhere.
That is the first energy expressionor the first form of being,
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or the first knowingness of self,
the first awareness of I am.So with all the light that's expressing
itself, your light, that partthat's right there, okay?
That section of all of this light,
all the sections are made upof the same stuff you are.
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That little sectionthat's right there. Okay?
So now that sectiondecides to take a form.
It's not just raw light, rawenergy that's expressing,
it's now being contained in a form.
This form is a light body. Okay?
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Just imagine a circle for anexample. Let's just keep it simple.
Before it was expressing,
now it's taking a shape such as a circle.
That is the second form of being, orI should say primary form of being.
because there's multiple ways in whichthe source or light expresses itself.
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But I'm talking about the threeprimary ways. So this light body,
this primary form of being asa spirit that has now taken
a form, has multiple experiencesin multiple dimensions,
multiple realities.This body is a soul
body,
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and it's the soul body becauseit's now spirit that has taken
a form. And as it's havingits multiple experiences,
there are memories of theseexperiences that's felt by
this light body form, okay?
It is soul in all the variousexperiences that it has.
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You can say that these are variousparts that make up soul. Now,
one example I like to use toexplain this is water and ice.
Let's say that there's a lakein the wintertime that freezes.
Now the whole lake doesn't freeze.It looks like the top part is frozen,
but underneath there's stillwater, right? So the lake freezes,
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and let's say the,
the top part of the lake that's frozengets disturbed some kind of way.
Maybe someone is trying toskate, you know, ice skate on it,
and then falls through any type ofthing just happens to disturb this ice,
right?When the disturbance happens,
the ice turns into little pieces.
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So now you have pieces of icethat's floating in the water below.
And so if you think about it,
each one of these pieces of iceis having its own experience,
yet it's still part of the overall water.
So even though it's frozen andit's ice, it's part of the water.
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And even though those frozen piecesof ice has its own experience,
it's part of the water,
it is parts of soul that'smade up of the same spirit,
the same stuff, ice made up of water.
So just think of the freezing ofthe water being the equivalent
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of memory being held. Each one ofthese pieces of ice are like memories.
The water as a whole fillsthe memories or experiences
the memories
while the ice is havingthe experience all at the
same time. So that's just anotherway I, I like to look at it.
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Hopefully I didn't confuse you,
but that's just a way thatthat really helps me to
remember soul and spirit in,
in a way of looking at itthat's more practical and,
and a way to understand it froma third dimensional standpoint.
So now the third way or thirdprimary form of being is when that
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light that has that that'sformed, let's you know, again,
we're using circle as an example,decides to take a denser form.
So now it's not light as weknow it, it's now a body,
a dense body such as ahuman body or an animal.
So all this is important becauseall three forms are all connected.
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It's all one, it's all made up ofthe same stuff, the same light,
the same source, the same spirit,
and it's just expressingitself in multiple ways,
in multiple dimensions,
multiple realities all at the same time.So when you have your out-of-body
experiences, you areliterally viewing the,
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the places that you gofrom the perspective of the
non-physical versions of self fromthese aspects or these versions of
self or forms of being. It's the,
the nature in whichthese forms are, you see,
always having multiple experiences atthe same time in multiple dimensions and
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in multiple ways of expressing itself.
The physical dense form ofyou is now becoming aware
that the soul or spirit of you does this.
It is a continuous nonstopexpression and experience.
Now, to take it a step further,
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the denser part of you isthe equivalent to the 3D,
third dimensional aspect of self or human
self. That light bodythat we talked about,
that second primary form ofbeing is the equivalent of
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the fourth dimensional. You,
the non-physical version ofyou that literally does the
same things that you doas a physical version,
but is lighter. It's not sodense. So that way of expressing,
there's ways in which it cando express itself that you as a
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physical being cannotbecause you're so dense.
But it has the same type of wayof being in the way in which it's,
it's having experiences,
it's feeling those experiences andexpressing itself through emotion,
but not the same type of emotionthat a denser form would have.
That energy that's movingfrom a fourth dimensional
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standpoint or a soul standpoint also is
not perfect, you know?
So the way in which we have ournegatives and our positives as we want to
call it here in thethird dimension or the,
or the way in which thethird dimensional body works,
you have the same thing ina fourth dimensional way of
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viewing things. There's positive, there'snegative, everything is a spectrum.
Everything is not perfect.
And people make the mistake of thinkingin that reality that all is perfect and
all is this and that not fourth dimension,
we're not there yet. So now whenit comes to the section of spirit
that you are right,
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that area that hasn't taken form yet,
but you are that area,
that's the equivalent of the 5D self,
which is your higher self.
Your higher self is an aspect or section
of the all light frequencythat is expressing itself.
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It's that section right therethat is your higher self.
And there's many more dimensions aboveit because there is a big difference
between that 5D version of you and
the U that is not anindividualized section because
once you go up past thelittle section there,
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it's no more an individual.
It's all one one light expression.
I personally call that the highest self.
That's part of all thatis higher than the higher
self, which is the moreindividualized parts.
Now,
your higher self and the highestversions of self communicate via
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images,
your higher self also communicatestelepathically with you. And
as a matter of fact, the itsounds like you're thinking.
You know how that inner voice, like ifyou're thinking about something and is,
and is you? Well,
you also can receive informationthrough that thinking voice.
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And it's not you thinking it'ssomething else that's using your inner
thinking voice to communicatewith you. Most of the time,
that's your higher self whenyou are in a state of calm and
not freaking out about what's happeningwhen you're in an altered state where
you're just relaxed andallow things to happen,
most of the time that is yourhigher self. Now you have,
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there's other loving beings thatcan communicate with you through
that thinking mind.
And there's also some nefariousbeings and also technology
that people in this realityhave used to use your
inner mind thought voice to communicate
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as well.
So you have to have discernment toknow the difference. And you will have
discernment when you're in that, whenyou're in that, those altered states,
as long as you don't freak outand you get to the point of
understanding yourself andknowing yourself from the,
from a more loving way,
and allowing that lovefrequency to be your default,
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you'll receive information through yourthinking voice and that's your higher
self communicating with you.
And your highest self can do that as well.
But when I had communicationswith a more higher
version than the higher self, and I'mtrying to look, let me, let me say this.
I'm doing the best I can tosimplify this from a human
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perspective, but the thingsthat I'm talking about,
it's very challenging quitehonestly to put into words because
really there is no wordsto fully describe the,
the essence of us. Everytime we use language,
every time we we put somethingin a box or label it,
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it takes away from the essence.However,
this is how we communicatein this reality, right?
So I've got to think of ways to,
to make it make sense andI'm doing the best I can,
but I've had experiences. I'm notgoing to go into any long drawn out,
detailed story on this episode,
but I've had experiences with two versions
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of highest self that were me,
but it wasn't me because it washigher than the higher self.
So it was, it was kind of interestinghow that worked. But anyway,
the way they communicatedwas all through images.
And when I had this experienceout of my body which
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I wasn't in a body, I was just,it was just a mind experience,
experience as they were communicating,
they were using scenariosand different lights
and different thingsto express themselves.
And the version of me that's a stepabove the me in this reality was pretty
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much being like a translator,
translating the informationto me in real time in this
altered state so that I understood,
because me as Vernita didn't know whatwas going on, but as it was happening,
I did because that it was like thatfourth dimensional self. It was like the
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sole self transferring the information,
or it may have been the higher self.It's like, I don't want to get,
I really don't like to break things downlike this because we get stuck on words
a lot, but whatever you want to call it,
it was a step above the methat's talking to you now.
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And the two that were higher or highest,
however you want to look at it,were way up there in dimension. Way,
way up there. And there's a anothersense that I had where I knew that,
okay?
And so I'm saying this to you sothat you understand that you yourself
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have the ability to communicate withthese various different aspects of
yourself. I want you to know ifyou haven't had that communication,
that it exists and it'spart of the control process
for me.
I allow for the spontaneous OBEs tohappen because it happen to me at night
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usually, or instead of sleeping,
I'm having an outof body experience.Now,
if it was happening to me during thedaytime while I'm walking, and so,
because I know some people thathave told me that, you know,
they're driving and they canstart feeling their body separate,
that's a whole other thing.
So we need to have a wholeother discussion privately as it relates to that.
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But when it comes to having these outof body experiences where it's not
disturbing your normal day to day, for me,
I just allow for them to happen. Okay?But if I did not want them to happen,
there's communication that can havewith these other versions of self
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in order to stop them fromhappening at certain times and allow
from to happen in other times. So youcan program yourself in different ways,
but we're starting with,I'm, I'm trying to, I'm come,
I'm coming on down and getting to the,
the human 3D self in a second.But I want you to know that these other
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selves are available to youto communicate with you and
they communicate via images.
So that's why yourimagination is very important.
It's an important part ofcommunicating. You know,
people talk about the imagination alot when it comes to manifestation,
but also when it comes to howyou want to program the higher
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versions of yourself to assist youwith this lower version of yourself,
you communicate withthem through mentally,
mentally you don't have to speak.That's what we do here. You,
you have images and also thoughts you see
without speaking images and thoughts.
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But you do this whenyou're in an altered state.
So when you're either out of yourbody or when you're in like a half
sleep type of state, it's calledthe hypnogogic or hypnopompic,
and I may even be pronouncing that wrong,
but those are what isknown as scientifically,
okay? I just call it halfsleep state, very simple.
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That state is a veryimportant state to use to
communicate with the higheraspects of self and with your
own body to train it whenit comes to your own body,
and also to communicate with theother aspects in order to let it
know how you want to workin this reality as it
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relates to these non-physical sensesthat you have and ability to come
outta your body. Hope that makessense. So getting back to the 4D self,
that is a spirit realm,body that is the body that,
that you use when you're astral travel.
But of course there's moreto OBEs than astral travel.
You can take your consciousness andgo other places. Remote viewing,
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not the type that they teach,
but the type that naturallyhappens is a form of outof body.
And of course there's so many differenttypes of out-of-body experiences because
you can buy and try locate in all of that.The point I'm making
is that when it comes tothe fourth dimensional self,
that spirit realm whereeverything happens,
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regardless of how you got into that realm,
that non-physical realm is the 4D is
the soul you, is the, the spirit or the,
the aspect of you that's taking thatsecond form that does what it does.
And there's so many different ways inwhich it expresses itself in that realm.
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Like I said, talking about astraltravel is one form expression.
Your mind or your consciousnessgoing to into other things,
other people's bodies, other versionsof self is another expression.
Remote viewing is another expression.
The bilocation and the tri location ishappening. You can feel it. Well, it's,
it's that is the, the body or the form,
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the second form that you're usingwhen light is expressing itself
in those various ways. Allright, so now moving on.
That you that you are asthe soul you permeates
the physical body.So it's bigger than the physical body.
It makes up the aurathat people talk about.
It is the part that is like around
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and through the physical body,
meaning is integrated itselfwith the body that you
use to navigate this reality. Now,
I keep things simple and alsocall it the etheric body.
I don't separate etheric bodyover here, astral body over there,
spirit over here, soul over there. I'm,
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I just mash 'em all togetherbecause I've seen this body.
It's also known as a body double. Andthe body double is what I've seen. Now,
some people have seen that body doublewith layers. I don't see the layers.
I see all of it as one whole.
There are times when I'm in an alteredstate and I'm sleeping and I have a
reaction to a,
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a dream and I'm kind of like ina bilocation type of situation
where I'm in the dream,
but I'm also feeling myself from and,
and experiencing myself from layingin the bed type of thing. So what I do
is I've seen my arms andI've seen my chest lift up,
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but not my physicalbody. My etheric spirit,
soul version of self
that looks just like thisphysical body lifts up, right?
So I'm looking, I see it. And, andso because that's how I see it,
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I put it all together. Now, like I said,
other people like to do thelittle separations, which is fine.
Now all of this makes up the youthat you have access to and the
ability to communicate with thatassists you with the control of all of
this.
So how are you even froma third dimensional human
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body standpoint able to evencommunicate with this part of you?
And the thing about it is,
is that the same waythat you can communicate
with that part of you is the sameway in which you're receiving
information from that part of youthat's allowing you to be able
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to experience all of this to begin with.
All of the non-physical experiencesthat you have that go along with
the OBEs.
This is happening because youhave a very active pineal gland,
which is in the center of thebrain, not dead in the center,
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but a little further back.
There's several parts within the centerof the brain that worse along with the
pineal gland,
allowing you to use thatpineal gland as an antenna
that receives information. So you gotthe al gland, the pituitary gland,
the hypothalamus. There'salso the thalamus in there.
There's just parts of the brainin the middle of the brain.
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Your brain is lit up, all right?
It's like a light bulb thatis turned on real bright.
And that's a wonderful thing. See,
let me break this down real quick.
All of us have a pinealgland that's turned on,
but there's a difference between apineal gland that's turned on versus one
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that's activated. Justlike with your cell phone.
Your cell phone can be on right now,
but because you didn'ttap any of the apps, it's,
those apps are not activated.They're on, but they're,
you haven't activated by tapping it right?
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Some kind of way.
You have activated your pinealgland and because you don't know how
you activated it,
all these things are happening and noone's taught you how to use it or any,
anything about all these things.But you have an active pineal gland.
And the difference between onethat's active and one that's turned
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on is that in its regular state,
not active, but there
it produces serotonin and melatonin.
Now melatonin happens at night,serotonin during the day.
I'm not getting into all of that becausethat's not what the point of this
podcast is. But the point is,
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the reason why I want to mentionit is because of the melatonin.
When you activate your pineal glandand yours is already activated,
that's how you have in these experiences,
your pineal gland becomes like a receiver,
just like an antenna.
It is a receiving informationthat's coming through that
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non-physical aspect of youthat is permeating the body.
It's receiving information.And that information,
which is also considered light,
is changing the structureof the melatonin,
allowing it to producecertain chemicals in a
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certain way in which itwasn't producing it before.
Your melatonin produces chemicalsthat give you a hallucinogenic effect.
It is known that it produces DMT.
So people who taking DMT externallyor going to to South America and with
the, with the shaman and all this kindof stuff, they don't have to do that.
People who having problemswith going to sleep at night,
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insomnia, that's the name of it. They'retold to take melatonin and all that.
Like your pineal gland producesthis already. You just have they,
those people just have to know how to,how to trigger certain things within it.
Right now, for you,
the information that's comingin is mixing with the melatonin.
It is literally shifting it.Now the melatonin is
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like this powerful substance,more powerful than it already was.
And it's flowing through the middle ofyour brain and going down to other parts
of your body. And you arejust having these wonderful
otherworldly experienceas a result of this.
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Having a relationship with yourpineal gland is another way
of training or giving the order to
yourself of when youwant to allow for this,
these things to happen, theseo bs. And when you don't,
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you literally use your mind to communicate
with that part of self. You canspeak if you want to, but again,
it is what you are imaginingand is what you are
saying or communicating internally usingthat inner voice where everyone gets
the message. Your pinealgland gets the message,
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the the aspect of youthat's larger, the true you,
which is the soul self gets the message.Those higher highest
way up their versions of self getthe message. You can train yourself.
The ability is already there becauseyou have an active pineal gland.
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So now it's about understandingthat in order to be able to
train yourself,
to turn things on off or tell yourselfwhat you want to be more active
with,
myself knows that I loveclareaudience more than clairvoyance
as an example.
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So when it comes to yourOBEs training yourself
is in the same way. What do you prefer
when it comes to thesenon-physical senses that you have?
When do you want them to happen?Do you want them to happen at all?
I will suggest that you dobecause it's very beneficial,
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but you can train yourself.
The last thing you want to do is shutyour pineal gland down because the
experiences that you're having is a partof who you truly are. They're already
occurring anyway.
You are just now aware of itbecause of your active pineal gland.
Use what you already have that's naturallyoccurring in ways that other people
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don't even, they are trying to figureout how to activate the pineal gland.
Yours is already activated.
Use what you have already activatedto be able to communicate with higher
versions of yourself so that you cannot only control your experiences,
but also control other things in yourlife and get information as it relates to
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other things in yourlife. So again, to recap,
you have three primary formsof being three ways in which
consciousness or light expresses itself.
And then you also have threeprimary parts of self that make
up the individualized self.
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You have the whole, which you're anaspect of, a part of, an extension of.
And then you have the in individualpart of self where your higher self,
which is the fifth dimensionalpart, is at the top of,
then you have the fourth dimensionalpart and then you have the third
dimensional part. That thirddimensional aspect of you tips into the
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fourth dimensional many times inthis reality, I guarantee it does.
I don't even need to talk to you toknow that and we can talk about that at
another time. But I just,
I wanted to mention that because it'simportant for you to know that earth right
now has,
it's in a process of movinginto the fourth dimension,
but some of us have is alreadyexperiencing the fourth dimensional version of,
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of earth while otherpeople are experiencing,
still experiencing the thirddimensional version. So,
and I'm mentioning that because it getskind of becomes a challenge when I'm
talking about third dimensionalbody versus fourth dimensional body.
When the third dimensional is now isor going to be and sometimes is already
for you, the fourth dimensional.
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So how do you differentiatebetween that and then the,
the old fourth dimensional, which is why,
another point I want to make is don'tget so caught up in words and labels to
describe yourself.Everything is a spectrum.
There's many areas in between.
Anytime you label something you'retaking away from its essence.
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What I'm talking about and whatyou're experiencing truly cannot
be put into words.
There is nothing that I can sayon this podcast that will give
what I'm talking about.Its full understanding.
It's the reason why in matriarchalsocieties they didn't need to speak
they's. The reason why, if youwant the whole truth of something,
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you receive it telepathicallyor within the mind's eye
images. It's, it's,
there's nothing to speakbecause speaking lowers
it, it dumbs it down. I'm not goingto go off on a tangent with that.
I'm just going to say that and leaveyou with that. So hopefully you're,
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you have a better understanding of selfand know that you do indeed have the
power to control and manageyour out-of-body experiences
because of the non-physicalaspects of you that's already
doing what it's doing and it's able tocommunicate with you and you with it.
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When you allow for yourself touse the center of your brain
to assist with thatcommunication, you have control.
You always have.
No one in this reality toldyou that because the powers
that be,
the system that we live in don't wantpeople to know the truth of themselves.
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Alright? So if you have any questions,
go to askvernita.com andI will reply back to you
directly. It's coming directly to me.
Whatever you send comes to me and I'mgoing to send directly from me to you.
With that said, manyblessings to you, much love,
and see you next week.
So, your out-of-bodyexperiences happen whenever.
You feel like there's no way to controlit or that you just don't have the
ability to control it. And it justdoes what it does whenever it wants to.
And you're not even able to stop itwhen you don't want it to happen.
But I want you to understand that notonly do you have the ability to control
your out-of-body experiences,
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you also have the ability to manage itin a way where you can do what you want
to do with it and allow for itto be very beneficial to you.
The key is to knowing howthose parts of yourself that
allow for these experience to happenwork. How do they communicate?
And what's a way of tapping into thoseparts so that you can use the ability
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that you already have?Let's talk about that.
Welcome back to another episode,I'm Vernita. And on today's episode,
we're going to talk about the power thatyou have to control your spontaneous
out-of-body experiences.Now, like I said before,
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in order for you to controlyour experiences with the ability that you already
have, the ability to control it,
you have to know how theaspects of yourself work that allow for it to happen in
the first place. But even before that,
you have to know what arethose aspects of yourself. And,
and if you recall from other episodes,
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I talked about your higher self beingthe part of you that allows for this to
happen, but it goes deeper than that. See,
before we talk about the higher self,
let's take a step back and talkabout your origins as a soul
and the three primary forms of being.
So I always talk about how you're notyour body. You are a soul that's made up
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of spirit. And spirit is like raw energy.
That's not in any form,it's just expressing itself.
And you can think of this rawenergy expression as light
that is expressing itself.Before light expressed itself,
it was absorbed unto itself. That isthe source from which everything is,
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was and always will beall light with within the
electromagnetic frequencies that weknow of that is absorbed within itself.
That's not expressing that atsome point began to express
itself, which is how we seeall light as being white.
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Before it expressed itself, it was dark,
light absorbed into itself. So nowafter that light expressed itself,
right, and we have white light,
that's just raw energy that'sjust shining brightly everywhere.
That is the first energy expressionor the first form of being,
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or the first knowingness of self,
the first awareness of I am.So with all the light that's expressing
itself, your light, that partthat's right there, okay?
That section of all of this light,
all the sections are made upof the same stuff you are.
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That little sectionthat's right there. Okay?
So now that sectiondecides to take a form.
It's not just raw light, rawenergy that's expressing,
it's now being contained in a form.
This form is a light body. Okay?
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Just imagine a circle for anexample. Let's just keep it simple.
Before it was expressing,
now it's taking a shape such as a circle.
That is the second form of being, orI should say primary form of being.
because there's multiple ways in whichthe source or light expresses itself.
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But I'm talking about the threeprimary ways. So this light body,
this primary form of being asa spirit that has now taken
a form, has multiple experiencesin multiple dimensions,
multiple realities.This body is a soul
body,
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and it's the soul body becauseit's now spirit that has taken
a form. And as it's havingits multiple experiences,
there are memories of theseexperiences that's felt by
this light body form, okay?
It is soul in all the variousexperiences that it has.
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You can say that these are variousparts that make up soul. Now,
one example I like to use toexplain this is water and ice.
Let's say that there's a lakein the wintertime that freezes.
Now the whole lake doesn't freeze.It looks like the top part is frozen,
but underneath there's stillwater, right? So the lake freezes,
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and let's say the,
the top part of the lake that's frozengets disturbed some kind of way.
Maybe someone is trying toskate, you know, ice skate on it,
and then falls through any type ofthing just happens to disturb this ice,
right?When the disturbance happens,
the ice turns into little pieces.
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So now you have pieces of icethat's floating in the water below.
And so if you think about it,
each one of these pieces of iceis having its own experience,
yet it's still part of the overall water.
So even though it's frozen andit's ice, it's part of the water.
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And even though those frozen piecesof ice has its own experience,
it's part of the water,
it is parts of soul that'smade up of the same spirit,
the same stuff, ice made up of water.
So just think of the freezing ofthe water being the equivalent
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of memory being held. Each one ofthese pieces of ice are like memories.
The water as a whole fillsthe memories or experiences
the memories
while the ice is havingthe experience all at the
same time. So that's just anotherway I, I like to look at it.
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Hopefully I didn't confuse you,
but that's just a way thatthat really helps me to
remember soul and spirit in,
in a way of looking at itthat's more practical and,
and a way to understand it froma third dimensional standpoint.
So now the third way or thirdprimary form of being is when that
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light that has that that'sformed, let's you know, again,
we're using circle as an example,decides to take a denser form.
So now it's not light as weknow it, it's now a body,
a dense body such as ahuman body or an animal.
So all this is important becauseall three forms are all connected.
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It's all one, it's all made up ofthe same stuff, the same light,
the same source, the same spirit,
and it's just expressingitself in multiple ways,
in multiple dimensions,
multiple realities all at the same time.So when you have your out-of-body
experiences, you areliterally viewing the,
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the places that you gofrom the perspective of the
non-physical versions of self fromthese aspects or these versions of
self or forms of being. It's the,
the nature in whichthese forms are, you see,
always having multiple experiences atthe same time in multiple dimensions and
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in multiple ways of expressing itself.
The physical dense form ofyou is now becoming aware
that the soul or spirit of you does this.
It is a continuous nonstopexpression and experience.
Now, to take it a step further,
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the denser part of you isthe equivalent to the 3D,
third dimensional aspect of self or human
self. That light bodythat we talked about,
that second primary form ofbeing is the equivalent of
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the fourth dimensional. You,
the non-physical version ofyou that literally does the
same things that you doas a physical version,
but is lighter. It's not sodense. So that way of expressing,
there's ways in which it cando express itself that you as a
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physical being cannotbecause you're so dense.
But it has the same type of wayof being in the way in which it's,
it's having experiences,
it's feeling those experiences andexpressing itself through emotion,
but not the same type of emotionthat a denser form would have.
That energy that's movingfrom a fourth dimensional
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standpoint or a soul standpoint also is
not perfect, you know?
So the way in which we have ournegatives and our positives as we want to
call it here in thethird dimension or the,
or the way in which thethird dimensional body works,
you have the same thing ina fourth dimensional way of
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viewing things. There's positive, there'snegative, everything is a spectrum.
Everything is not perfect.
And people make the mistake of thinkingin that reality that all is perfect and
all is this and that not fourth dimension,
we're not there yet. So now whenit comes to the section of spirit
that you are right,
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that area that hasn't taken form yet,
but you are that area,
that's the equivalent of the 5D self,
which is your higher self.
Your higher self is an aspect or section
of the all light frequencythat is expressing itself.
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It's that section right therethat is your higher self.
And there's many more dimensions aboveit because there is a big difference
between that 5D version of you and
the U that is not anindividualized section because
once you go up past thelittle section there,
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it's no more an individual.
It's all one one light expression.
I personally call that the highest self.
That's part of all thatis higher than the higher
self, which is the moreindividualized parts.
Now,
your higher self and the highestversions of self communicate via
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images,
your higher self also communicatestelepathically with you. And
as a matter of fact, the itsounds like you're thinking.
You know how that inner voice, like ifyou're thinking about something and is,
and is you? Well,
you also can receive informationthrough that thinking voice.
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And it's not you thinking it'ssomething else that's using your inner
thinking voice to communicatewith you. Most of the time,
that's your higher self whenyou are in a state of calm and
not freaking out about what's happeningwhen you're in an altered state where
you're just relaxed andallow things to happen,
most of the time that is yourhigher self. Now you have,
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there's other loving beings thatcan communicate with you through
that thinking mind.
And there's also some nefariousbeings and also technology
that people in this realityhave used to use your
inner mind thought voice to communicate
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as well.
So you have to have discernment toknow the difference. And you will have
discernment when you're in that, whenyou're in that, those altered states,
as long as you don't freak outand you get to the point of
understanding yourself andknowing yourself from the,
from a more loving way,
and allowing that lovefrequency to be your default,
(12:52):
you'll receive information through yourthinking voice and that's your higher
self communicating with you.
And your highest self can do that as well.
But when I had communicationswith a more higher
version than the higher self, and I'mtrying to look, let me, let me say this.
I'm doing the best I can tosimplify this from a human
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perspective, but the thingsthat I'm talking about,
it's very challenging quitehonestly to put into words because
really there is no wordsto fully describe the,
the essence of us. Everytime we use language,
every time we we put somethingin a box or label it,
(13:37):
it takes away from the essence.However,
this is how we communicatein this reality, right?
So I've got to think of ways to,
to make it make sense andI'm doing the best I can,
but I've had experiences. I'm notgoing to go into any long drawn out,
detailed story on this episode,
but I've had experiences with two versions
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of highest self that were me,
but it wasn't me because it washigher than the higher self.
So it was, it was kind of interestinghow that worked. But anyway,
the way they communicatedwas all through images.
And when I had this experienceout of my body which
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I wasn't in a body, I was just,it was just a mind experience,
experience as they were communicating,
they were using scenariosand different lights
and different thingsto express themselves.
And the version of me that's a stepabove the me in this reality was pretty
(14:43):
much being like a translator,
translating the informationto me in real time in this
altered state so that I understood,
because me as Vernita didn't know whatwas going on, but as it was happening,
I did because that it was like thatfourth dimensional self. It was like the
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sole self transferring the information,
or it may have been the higher self.It's like, I don't want to get,
I really don't like to break things downlike this because we get stuck on words
a lot, but whatever you want to call it,
it was a step above the methat's talking to you now.
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And the two that were higher or highest,
however you want to look at it,were way up there in dimension. Way,
way up there. And there's a anothersense that I had where I knew that,
okay?
And so I'm saying this to you sothat you understand that you yourself
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have the ability to communicate withthese various different aspects of
yourself. I want you to know ifyou haven't had that communication,
that it exists and it'spart of the control process
for me.
I allow for the spontaneous OBEs tohappen because it happen to me at night
(16:09):
usually, or instead of sleeping,
I'm having an outof body experience.Now,
if it was happening to me during thedaytime while I'm walking, and so,
because I know some people thathave told me that, you know,
they're driving and they canstart feeling their body separate,
that's a whole other thing.
So we need to have a wholeother discussion privately as it relates to that.
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But when it comes to having these outof body experiences where it's not
disturbing your normal day to day, for me,
I just allow for them to happen. Okay?But if I did not want them to happen,
there's communication that can havewith these other versions of self
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in order to stop them fromhappening at certain times and allow
from to happen in other times. So youcan program yourself in different ways,
but we're starting with,I'm, I'm trying to, I'm come,
I'm coming on down and getting to the,
the human 3D self in a second.But I want you to know that these other
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selves are available to youto communicate with you and
they communicate via images.
So that's why yourimagination is very important.
It's an important part ofcommunicating. You know,
people talk about the imagination alot when it comes to manifestation,
but also when it comes to howyou want to program the higher
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versions of yourself to assist youwith this lower version of yourself,
you communicate withthem through mentally,
mentally you don't have to speak.That's what we do here. You,
you have images and also thoughts you see
without speaking images and thoughts.
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But you do this whenyou're in an altered state.
So when you're either out of yourbody or when you're in like a half
sleep type of state, it's calledthe hypnogogic or hypnopompic,
and I may even be pronouncing that wrong,
but those are what isknown as scientifically,
okay? I just call it halfsleep state, very simple.
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That state is a veryimportant state to use to
communicate with the higheraspects of self and with your
own body to train it whenit comes to your own body,
and also to communicate with theother aspects in order to let it
know how you want to workin this reality as it
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relates to these non-physical sensesthat you have and ability to come
outta your body. Hope that makessense. So getting back to the 4D self,
that is a spirit realm,body that is the body that,
that you use when you're astral travel.
But of course there's moreto OBEs than astral travel.
You can take your consciousness andgo other places. Remote viewing,
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not the type that they teach,
but the type that naturallyhappens is a form of outof body.
And of course there's so many differenttypes of out-of-body experiences because
you can buy and try locate in all of that.The point I'm making
is that when it comes tothe fourth dimensional self,
that spirit realm whereeverything happens,
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regardless of how you got into that realm,
that non-physical realm is the 4D is
the soul you, is the, the spirit or the,
the aspect of you that's taking thatsecond form that does what it does.
And there's so many different ways inwhich it expresses itself in that realm.
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Like I said, talking about astraltravel is one form expression.
Your mind or your consciousnessgoing to into other things,
other people's bodies, other versionsof self is another expression.
Remote viewing is another expression.
The bilocation and the tri location ishappening. You can feel it. Well, it's,
it's that is the, the body or the form,
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the second form that you're usingwhen light is expressing itself
in those various ways. Allright, so now moving on.
That you that you are asthe soul you permeates
the physical body.So it's bigger than the physical body.
It makes up the aurathat people talk about.
It is the part that is like around
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and through the physical body,
meaning is integrated itselfwith the body that you
use to navigate this reality. Now,
I keep things simple and alsocall it the etheric body.
I don't separate etheric bodyover here, astral body over there,
spirit over here, soul over there. I'm,
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I just mash 'em all togetherbecause I've seen this body.
It's also known as a body double. Andthe body double is what I've seen. Now,
some people have seen that body doublewith layers. I don't see the layers.
I see all of it as one whole.
There are times when I'm in an alteredstate and I'm sleeping and I have a
reaction to a,
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a dream and I'm kind of like ina bilocation type of situation
where I'm in the dream,
but I'm also feeling myself from and,
and experiencing myself from layingin the bed type of thing. So what I do
is I've seen my arms andI've seen my chest lift up,
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but not my physicalbody. My etheric spirit,
soul version of self
that looks just like thisphysical body lifts up, right?
So I'm looking, I see it. And, andso because that's how I see it,
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I put it all together. Now, like I said,
other people like to do thelittle separations, which is fine.
Now all of this makes up the youthat you have access to and the
ability to communicate with thatassists you with the control of all of
this.
So how are you even froma third dimensional human
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body standpoint able to evencommunicate with this part of you?
And the thing about it is,
is that the same waythat you can communicate
with that part of you is the sameway in which you're receiving
information from that part of youthat's allowing you to be able
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to experience all of this to begin with.
All of the non-physical experiencesthat you have that go along with
the OBEs.
This is happening because youhave a very active pineal gland,
which is in the center of thebrain, not dead in the center,
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but a little further back.
There's several parts within the centerof the brain that worse along with the
pineal gland,
allowing you to use thatpineal gland as an antenna
that receives information. So you gotthe al gland, the pituitary gland,
the hypothalamus. There'salso the thalamus in there.
There's just parts of the brainin the middle of the brain.
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Your brain is lit up, all right?
It's like a light bulb thatis turned on real bright.
And that's a wonderful thing. See,
let me break this down real quick.
All of us have a pinealgland that's turned on,
but there's a difference between apineal gland that's turned on versus one
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that's activated. Justlike with your cell phone.
Your cell phone can be on right now,
but because you didn'ttap any of the apps, it's,
those apps are not activated.They're on, but they're,
you haven't activated by tapping it right?
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Some kind of way.
You have activated your pinealgland and because you don't know how
you activated it,
all these things are happening and noone's taught you how to use it or any,
anything about all these things.But you have an active pineal gland.
And the difference between onethat's active and one that's turned
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on is that in its regular state,
not active, but there
it produces serotonin and melatonin.
Now melatonin happens at night,serotonin during the day.
I'm not getting into all of that becausethat's not what the point of this
podcast is. But the point is,
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the reason why I want to mentionit is because of the melatonin.
When you activate your pineal glandand yours is already activated,
that's how you have in these experiences,
your pineal gland becomes like a receiver,
just like an antenna.
It is a receiving informationthat's coming through that
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non-physical aspect of youthat is permeating the body.
It's receiving information.And that information,
which is also considered light,
is changing the structureof the melatonin,
allowing it to producecertain chemicals in a
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certain way in which itwasn't producing it before.
Your melatonin produces chemicalsthat give you a hallucinogenic effect.
It is known that it produces DMT.
So people who taking DMT externallyor going to to South America and with
the, with the shaman and all this kindof stuff, they don't have to do that.
People who having problemswith going to sleep at night,
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insomnia, that's the name of it. They'retold to take melatonin and all that.
Like your pineal gland producesthis already. You just have they,
those people just have to know how to,how to trigger certain things within it.
Right now, for you,
the information that's comingin is mixing with the melatonin.
It is literally shifting it.Now the melatonin is
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like this powerful substance,more powerful than it already was.
And it's flowing through the middle ofyour brain and going down to other parts
of your body. And you arejust having these wonderful
otherworldly experienceas a result of this.
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Having a relationship with yourpineal gland is another way
of training or giving the order to
yourself of when youwant to allow for this,
these things to happen, theseo bs. And when you don't,
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you literally use your mind to communicate
with that part of self. You canspeak if you want to, but again,
it is what you are imaginingand is what you are
saying or communicating internally usingthat inner voice where everyone gets
the message. Your pinealgland gets the message,
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the the aspect of youthat's larger, the true you,
which is the soul self gets the message.Those higher highest
way up their versions of self getthe message. You can train yourself.
The ability is already there becauseyou have an active pineal gland.
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So now it's about understandingthat in order to be able to
train yourself,
to turn things on off or tell yourselfwhat you want to be more active
with,
myself knows that I loveclareaudience more than clairvoyance
as an example.
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So when it comes to yourOBEs training yourself
is in the same way. What do you prefer
when it comes to thesenon-physical senses that you have?
When do you want them to happen?Do you want them to happen at all?
I will suggest that you dobecause it's very beneficial,
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but you can train yourself.
The last thing you want to do is shutyour pineal gland down because the
experiences that you're having is a partof who you truly are. They're already
occurring anyway.
You are just now aware of itbecause of your active pineal gland.
Use what you already have that's naturallyoccurring in ways that other people
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don't even, they are trying to figureout how to activate the pineal gland.
Yours is already activated.
Use what you have already activatedto be able to communicate with higher
versions of yourself so that you cannot only control your experiences,
but also control other things in yourlife and get information as it relates to
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other things in yourlife. So again, to recap,
you have three primary formsof being three ways in which
consciousness or light expresses itself.
And then you also have threeprimary parts of self that make
up the individualized self.
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You have the whole, which you're anaspect of, a part of, an extension of.
And then you have the in individualpart of self where your higher self,
which is the fifth dimensionalpart, is at the top of,
then you have the fourth dimensionalpart and then you have the third
dimensional part. That thirddimensional aspect of you tips into the
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fourth dimensional many times inthis reality, I guarantee it does.
I don't even need to talk to you toknow that and we can talk about that at
another time. But I just,
I wanted to mention that because it'simportant for you to know that earth right
now has,
it's in a process of movinginto the fourth dimension,
but some of us have is alreadyexperiencing the fourth dimensional version of,
(30:28):
of earth while otherpeople are experiencing,
still experiencing the thirddimensional version. So,
and I'm mentioning that because it getskind of becomes a challenge when I'm
talking about third dimensionalbody versus fourth dimensional body.
When the third dimensional is now isor going to be and sometimes is already
for you, the fourth dimensional.
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So how do you differentiatebetween that and then the,
the old fourth dimensional, which is why,
another point I want to make is don'tget so caught up in words and labels to
describe yourself.Everything is a spectrum.
There's many areas in between.
Anytime you label something you'retaking away from its essence.
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What I'm talking about and whatyou're experiencing truly cannot
be put into words.
There is nothing that I can sayon this podcast that will give
what I'm talking about.Its full understanding.
It's the reason why in matriarchalsocieties they didn't need to speak
they's. The reason why, if youwant the whole truth of something,
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you receive it telepathicallyor within the mind's eye
images. It's, it's,
there's nothing to speakbecause speaking lowers
it, it dumbs it down. I'm not goingto go off on a tangent with that.
I'm just going to say that and leaveyou with that. So hopefully you're,
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you have a better understanding of selfand know that you do indeed have the
power to control and manageyour out-of-body experiences
because of the non-physicalaspects of you that's already
doing what it's doing and it's able tocommunicate with you and you with it.
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When you allow for yourself touse the center of your brain
to assist with thatcommunication, you have control.
You always have.
No one in this reality toldyou that because the powers
that be,
the system that we live in don't wantpeople to know the truth of themselves.
(32:40):
Alright? So if you have any questions,
go to askvernita.com andI will reply back to you
directly. It's coming directly to me.
Whatever you send comes to me and I'mgoing to send directly from me to you.
With that said, manyblessings to you, much love,
and see you next week.
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