December 23, 2024 • 47 mins
Do you want to understand the multidimensional nature of your consciousness and how it can travel to different planes of existence, even without your astral body?
In this episode, I dive deep into the various ways in which your consciousness can journey beyond the limits of your physical reality… and even beyond your astral body.
You'll discover the incredible potential of consciousness, learn about the concept of Inslide Ability, and understand how you can tap into memories from parallel versions of yourself.
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Having an out-of-body experiencedoes not equate to astral travel,
but many people think it does. So peopleuse those two terms interchangeably.
The thing is,
there are many different types ofout-of-body experiences and astral travel
is only one type of an OBE.
When you only associate out-of-bodyexperiences with astral travel,
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there are many things that are completelymisunderstood and can cause confusion.
So I want to bring clarity to this andtalk about astral travel versus other
types of OBEs. So let's talk about it.
Welcome back to anotherepisode of Mystical Recall here at mysticalrecall.com.
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I am Vernita Seahrey Sherman,
and I'm an Interdimensional Traveler andOBE Mentor that works with individuals
who are having spontaneous out-of-bodyexperiences that want to manage those
experiences with comfort andease. And this is episode seven.
And on this episode I want to diveright into the difference between astral
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travel versus other OBEs.All right,
because everyone is using itinterchangeably. You know,
there's been times whenpeople have introduced me to other people and said that
I astral travel when really I haveout-of-body experiences that go beyond
astral travel along with astral travel.
Astral travel is not the only form of OBE.
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And I hear a lot of people teachingpeople that that's what that is.
And I'm like, okay,
if someone's having spontaneousout-of-body experiences and they think that the
only form of an out-of-bodyexperience is astral,
then there are many things thatthey're not going to understand.
And there's freakouts that may happenbecause they may think that they're only
in the astral realm and thingsgo beyond that. All right,
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so let's talk about the two primaryplanes that you visit when you come out of
your body that is non-physicaland physical. And yes,
you can visit physical planesoutside of your body because your
etheric body or your astral body doesnot go with you into those planes. It is
your consciousness that travels intothose other versions of yourself.
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And those other versions of yourselfalready have the body double the etheric
body or astral body that looks like thephysical body in that particular plane.
So let me break this down. One thing thatI always say is to keep things simple.
I don't separate the energy bodiesinto little separate compartments.
Like I don't say there's the soulbody, the spirit body, the astral body,
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the etheric body and all these variousdifferent bodies. The emotional,
the the mental and all these differentthings because it confuses people
to keep it simple.
There's one energy bodythat has multiple layers,
but I talk about them as if it'sall one thing. And don't get into,
into the individual layers. And Iprefer to use the term etheric body.
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When I'm saying etheric,I also mean astral. Okay?
Now this body looks likethe you that you are
right now. So me Vernitathat you see on the screen,
for those of you who arewatching and not just listening,
there is a see through transparentversion of the me that I am
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that looks like me right now.
It would be the equivalent to whatif you watch a movie or TV show,
what they portray a ghost to look like,
the see through transparentperson, it looks just like that,
but it's bigger thanyou. It's like it's you,
the physical you was inside of it asopposed to it being the other way around.
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So it's bigger than you. It'ssee through as transparent.
And when you leave yourbody, your physical body,
you can feel it drift away sometimes.
Now there's sometimes you don'talways feel it drift away,
and I'm going to get into that later,
but it is the what you're feelingdrifting away. It is that body double.
All right? And it's a bodydouble, because again,
it looks like you inthis physical reality.
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There are multipleversions of you in parallel
realms. I'm not going toget into the science of it.
I am not a physicist,
a scientist a into quantum physics andall that. I do like quantum physics and,
but I'm,
I'm not the expert in it can tell you howthe electrons and the neutrons and all
that's moving around. And Idon't get into all of that.
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I speak based on my experience andI speak based on what I receive in
other realms, telepathicallyand memory opening up. Okay?
So there's multiple versions of you theway that you are right now as the person
you know yourself to be on multipleplanes of existence. Okay? Now,
these multiple planes arewithin different... let's see,
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the best way for me to describeit, let's just use earthly plane,
right? So you have this oneearth. There's other earths too,
but I'm not going to get into all of that.
This one earth within thisparticular universe has multiple
planes of it. Withinthose multiple planes,
you have even more planes, if youwill. I don't separate terms, realms,
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worlds and, and planes.
I use them interchangeably forthe same reason with etheric,
astral and all that, it gets confusingwhen you separate all these things,
right?
Trying to explain stuff like this getsvery confusing when you start using
labels for every single little thing.
And it's the reason why people don'tunderstand certain things and how life
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works. Because when someoneuses one particular label,
someone else will be like,no, it's this. No, it's that.
And they're talking about the same thing.
It's just the label that they'reusing to describe it is different.
So I keep it really simple,
as simple as I possibly can.There are different realms,
different worlds, whatever.
I'm just going to say planesright now of earth by itself.
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There are different planes of otherplanets and there are different planes of
other, other star systems, okay?
And so everything is not non-physical.
There are multiple physicalplanes that you are on.
So if you take your consciousness intoanother version of yourself or another
aspect of yourself, you're notnecessarily in a higher dimension.
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You could be in another 3Drealm or a 4D realm. You know,
it can be the same exactdimension that you are here,
but it's just a parallel version.There is no past life and future life.
We talk about past and future becausethat's how we perceive things in this
reality. So I don't mindsaying past and future,
but please understand that allof your lives are right now.
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And you know that whenyou have your experiences,
when you have these out-of-bodyexperiences. So when you-
I'm speaking to people specifically withthis podcast who are having spontaneous
out-of-body experiences.
So when you have these experiencesand you see yourself, if you do,
you may be thinking that you're in apast life or future or whatever the case
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may be,
but really it is youtraveling on another plane
that exists right now. Okay?So let's get that out the way.
So not only are you inexistence in other planes
as the you that you are right now,but also as other people that you are,
you are not just who you knowyourself to be. You are other people,
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human and non-human in otherlifetimes that exist right now
on a parallel plane. Okay?
So when your consciousnesstravels without the body,
meaning the etheric or astralbody, it does it because your,
your consciousness, your,
or I should say your conscious awarenessreally because you're traveling all the
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time,
but your awareness of it going somewhereelse is going into another version of
you somewhere that already has a bodydouble. So your etheric body does
not have to go with itbecause you, you're already,
there's already a body waitingon you. Put it that way. Okay?
Another thing to understand isthat when your consciousness
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travels, it can travelinto the spirit realm,
not just another physicalplane without a body.
So there will be times when you havean out-of-body experience where you do
not feel that drift away feeling, okay?
And it can be because your consciousness
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is what's traveling and you're in like-it, it's different for different people,
because there's so many differenttypes of out-of-body experiences.
But I'm going to break it down tojust a few. But there's so many types,
and you may have experiencedthis, and if you haven't,
you will at some point becausethere's more than just astral travel.
That is like a beginning stage.Once you get past astral travel,
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you'll experience some of the thingsI'm about to say. And that is your
consciousness,
your awareness is in a statewhere there's nothing there.
And what I mean by that is everythingis dark on the sides, okay?
But in front of you isa screen, so to speak.
The reason why I'm calling it a screenis because it will have one of two
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shapes. It could be rectangularlike at a movie theater.
And it can also be circular. Likeyou're looking through a telescope.
You have no body. If you were to lookdown at yourself, there's nothing to see.
It's like nothingness. You'rejust pure consciousness,
just pure spirit. Seeing somethingplay out in front of you,
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which is usually a scenario.
You see a scenario that's playing outright in front of you on a screen.
The screen could be like you're sittingin the front row of a movie theater like
this or can be a little further back.It's different than what
some people call remote viewing becauseyes, you're, you're viewing remotely,
but you're not viewing fromyour body's perspective.
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It's not like you can feel yourselfin your physical body and then you're
seeing some remote place. That'snot what I'm talking about.
That can happen as well. Butthat's not what I'm talking about.
I'm saying that your awareness iscompletely out of your body and you're in
this in-between spirit realm placedwith less like a nothingness.
because everything is dark exceptfor what's in front of you.
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You see scenarios that are playingout. It could be one scenario,
a situation that's playing out somewhere,
or you can see one here andthen another one over here.
And you can choose to pop in orgently enter yourself into that
reality. I say pop in,
but you- that's just how I say itsometimes. But you can basically
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phase yourself into thatreality if you want to,
and then have yourexperiences there. That-
what you, when you, whenyou're seeing the screen,
whether it is square or it's circular,
that is called inslide ability.
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And I know this because thatis what another aspect of me
communicated to metelepathically. When I'm in these,
I was actually looking at differentlives that I had and so many different
scenarios playing out. Itwas like different screens,
so to speak. And I was told that thisis called inslide ability. All right?
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And so this inslide ability isanother aspect of you that is higher
dimensional and more expandedthat views beyond just an
astral realm. Because you literally,
some of these scenarios that are playingout, they're not all physical realms.
Some of them are astral planes thatyou enter yourself into. You, you,
you're like seeing different things andyou can decide whether you want to go or
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not or just sit back and just see whatyou want to see. But usually for myself,
I'm not just going to sit back.
I'm going to phase myself or pop myselfup into that reality and then have my
experience.
But I found very quickly that theexperience is not always astral.
And the experience is not always physical.
And the experiencesometimes is a lucid dream.
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So sometimes you can goinside of a dream world.
I'll talk about lucid dreamsat another time. Because there,
there are some distinctionsbetween- even though the,
the line is very blurry now,
but there's some distinctions betweena very vivid lucid dream and an
out-of-body experience.
And you can use certain ways ofdetermining which one you're in.
But when it comes to your OBEs,
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where it's just your consciousnesstraveling and you don't have that spirit
body, you, you, there's no body. Again,
you could be in this place whereyou're using your inslide ability.
Another thing I want to mention iswhen you're in that in-between place,
the where you're experiencing the wholeinslide ability and you're seeing on the
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screen and everything, there arebeings or people, if you will,
that can interact with you whileyou are looking at a particular
scenario. So it's not always ascenario that's going to play out.
You literally can look andthere's a room, right? And well,
I'm going to give you an example.So, one time, for an example,
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I saw a room and this little girl cameout from the left side of the screen
and she looked right at me andshe held out her arms to give me a
book, this big giantbook. So she literally,
when she held out her armswith the book in her hands,
she reached across the screen like,
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just imagine you're at a movie theaterand you are watching a movie and
this person comes out and looks atyou and then reaches across the screen
and you're able to just grab whateverthey hand you in the theater. And they
reached across the screenfrom inside the screen, okay?
So she reached acrossthe screen and the book-
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because I didn't have hands,I was pure consciousness.
I didn't have any hands or arms. Icouldn't just reach out and grab the book.
So what happened waswhen she let the book go,
it started floating in the air andstarted swaying from left to right,
left to right, you know, just kept onswaying back and forth, left to right,
right to left, kept onswaying, swaying, swaying.
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And so I had to take my mind focuson the book to stop it from swaying
so that it eventually stopped and I couldread what was on the cover. All right?
Stuff like that can happen as well.That wasn't the only time that happened.
There was other people inother places where I'm like
looking at like a screen and they areinteracting with me. And I'm like,
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how in the world are they able to do that?
So some of these people could bespirits, but in this particular case,
they represented aparticular type of being or
species that was tryingto communicate with me.
I'm not going to get into allthose details, but the thing is,
there are other beings out thereand other places, other star system,
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other realms that are benevolent,
that communicates with us as well.
And they have certain waysin which they do that.
And that's one of the ways she,
the the girl had the bookand I was reading the book.
And also when you're in that type of state
and you're not doing the whole endslide thing where if there's a screen,
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there can also be like onetime there was a stapled
some papers that were stapled together.And that's all I saw was papers
stapled together. And I wasn'tlooking through a screen.
It was actually in the realityor in the place that I was.
And so I'm reading what's onthere and then I flipped the page.
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I didn't have any arms,
so my mind flipped the page andstarted reading the next thing.
I got pulled back into my body before Ihad a chance to finish whatever this- it
was alot on there.
But the point I'm making is that thesethings happen and you can use the
information that you receive from eitherother people or when you're in that
state, that state, that spirit,state of just pure consciousness,
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and you see things and you things appearand you can read it or you can watch
it, whatever it is,
take in that information and bring asmuch as you can that you can remember back
into this reality because it canassist you in your life. All right?
So I just wanted to say that also youcan take your consciousness and travel
into the air. Now,
what I mean by that is bothliterally in the air and also
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in inside of an objectwhere you have no body
and well, let me, let me, let me backup. So in the air, let's start with that.
I've had experiences where I'mliterally viewing from the perspective
of a bird, so to speak.But I'm not in a bird.
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I don't have any kind of body.
My consciousness is justhaving a bird's eye view
engulfed in that world. Andwhat I mean by that, again,
going back to the whole remote viewthing, I'm not talking about that.
because you can be within your bodyand Remo view something remotely
in that way. But I'm nottalking about that. I'm, I mean,
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your consciousness is literally inthe place wherever that place is.
And you are moving aroundin that place with no body.
It's just pure consciousness.So no one can see you.
And you could be in an astral plane in,in, or some other type of spirit realm.
Or you can be in a physical planeincluding this one, all right?
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In an object, one time I was in a car,
and what's interesting is this wasmore of a bilocation type of experience
because I felt myself layingin the bed on my back,
while at the same time I was in this car,
while the part of me that was in the car
wanted to move the car. It was a nice,beautiful neighborhood somewhere.
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The car parked on the side, I was inthe car and I couldn't move the car.
So I knew I wasn't, um, in,
in a spirit realm because you can doeverything with your mind when you are
in a spirit or astral realm, okay?Whatever you think happens,
whatever you intend happens. And ithappens like that. It's immediate.
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I could not move this car. I couldn'tmove anything. I was just there.
And so
I'm feeling myself laying inthe bed while at the time,
at the same time being in this car. And I,
I look down because I'm wondering why my,
my arms and are not raisingup so I can drive this car.
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But I had no legs. I looked down,I had no legs, I had no arms,
I had no anything. What I sawwas the car seat, black car seat.
And so I'm looking aroundand there's, I have nothing,
no body. It's just consciousness inthis car. And I couldn't move the car.
I didn't want to get out the car.I just wanted this car to move.
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Don't ask me why.
That's a whole other story why I didn'twant to go outta the car. But anyway,
it didn't, I it was justpure consciousness and another physical reality,
okay? That is an out of body experience.
You are completely out or I was completelyout of this body that I know myself
to be physically in this reality.
Yet I wasn't in a spiritplane or an astral plane.
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That's why I'm telling you that thereis way more to an out-of-body experience
than just astral realms andastral plane and spirit realms.
Your consciousness can literallygo anywhere physical or
non-physical. You can go there. Now,
back to when you're inother versions of yourself,
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these are like other soul pieces.
So you are a soul made up of spirit.
And the different aspects of youare having multiple lifetimes
parallel to this life thatyou're living right now.
There's different parts of your soul,we'll call it. Pieces, like I said,
are fragments.Some people like to call it fragments,
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having their own exploration inwhatever plane that they're in.
Physical and non-physical.
And so what's happening is it's notnecessarily that that that you're
trying to bring pieces back togetherand all these other type of things.
It's just that you are having an awarenessof these other parts of yourself.
And so when your conscious awarenessis in these other parts of yourself,
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you're viewing from the eyesof that other body, okay?
You don't need your etheric body or yourastro body to go with you in order to
do that. And so you can havethat experience as well as,
as an experience where you're kindof split your consciousness in a way.
And what I mean by that is you'rein the body of someone else while
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at the same time you're thinking likethe you that you are here. So it's like
two different versions all in the samebody. But you're, you're, well you,
you're always thinking like the you thatyou are here. If you want to want to,
that's fine. But in this case,
what I'm saying is you're sharingthe same brain, so to speak.
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You can tap into that other versionof you or the other person's
consciousness and know things aboutthis individual while at the same time
knowing yourself as you, okay?
I was in the body of thisgirl who was in middle school.
I'm not going to go throughthe whole story because it,
it is a long story and I don'twant this episode to be too long.
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But I was in the body of a girlwho was in middle school and I was
30 something years old, right? So I'm inher body and I knew that she had been,
been adopted and she hadproblems with her foster
sister or something. And was girlwas making fun of her or whatever.
I knew all these things without havingthe experience of it because I knew what
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she was thinking. While at the sametime, I'm Vernita you understand?
And this brings me to another point thatI want to mention really quickly. This,
when I had that experience,that was the first time,
the first or second time thatI was in someone else's body.
And I realized when I cameback into my body, oh my God,
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like I understand this whole multiplepersonality disorder thing that people
have. Sometimes people are,
make the assumption that's somedemon or some possession of,
of some entity possessionthat a person is having a lot.
Some people don't even believethat that's even a thing.
But those who know that there's somekind of possession that's happening,
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it's not necessarily that that's what itis or something evil or whatever. This
person who has multiple personalitydisorders or whatever they call it these
days may be tapping into other aspectsof themselves. And for whatever reason,
there's some kind of chemical imbalanceor some kind of something that's going
on where they have nocontrol of what's happening.
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And so these other versionsof themselves are coming in,
speaking out in this reality.
Those versions may even be confusedat why they're even in there.
because I sure didn't know why Iwas in this girl's body. I'm like,
what is this what, you know? So it's,
it is very important that when thesethings happen to you and you're another,
you're in another version of yourself,
another lifetime that you understandwhat's going on so that you can
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control yourself andknow what's happening.
So that you yourself in thereality, your home reality,
this reality don't ventureoff and into some type
of psychosis or mentalhealth type of situation,
which many people have becausethey freak out, they get scared,
they get fearful. And the only frameof reference they have for this is some
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type of mental problem.There is no mental problem.
The people that have the mental issue,
they're not in alignment and in harmonywith the other aspects of their soul
pieces. Okay?
So I just wanted to to say thatif you know anybody that has some
type of... like I said, multiplepersonality type of situation going on,
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mental health issue,when it comes to that,
keep in mind that it's not always likesomething evil that is possessing them.
It could be other soul pieces.
And so this person needs tounderstand more about their
multidimensional nature and, and reallyseek the assistance that can help them.
Now,
I'm not saying that it's as simple asjust talking to somebody who knows about
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OB such as myself,
someone like that definitely needsprofessional assistance and help with with
that. And hopefully thepsychologist or whoever they go
to understandsmultidimensional nature, okay?
And understands that we're allmultidimensional. And this,
what we're talking about and what I'mtalking about on this episode is a real
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thing.
So I just wanted to say that now youas the consciousness that's going into
these other versions of yourself,
once you understand that powerand how powerful that is,
you are literally tapping intomemories of yourself by experiencing
it.
It's not like you're sittingdown meditating and waiting for something to come
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to you telepathically,which is cool, that's great.
But to actually have that experienceand see firsthand with other versions of
you had experienced, it's like it's real.It makes it real and make, oh, okay.
You know, it's, it's, it's very powerful.
And once you become comfortable with allof this and harmonizing and align these
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various aspects of yourself together,
it can be very fun.All right?
And you'll really enjoy these experiences.
Now when it comes toastral travel and you feel
yourself leaving your body or you're inan astral plane and you, you, you see,
you have a body that isvery powerful as well,
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that type of OBE, theastral travel experience.
It's like you are in a spiritrealm that in some of these realms,
by the way, and this isanother thing, astral,
everything isn't just astral all right?
There are so many differentversions or planes or
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realms within the non-physical realm,
which is one of the reasons why I don'tsay other side. When people say, okay,
there's this side, the physical, andthen, then there's the other side, you go,
what? There's, there's multiplesides to the other side.
So that's not a, a term,
a term that I really use from when I'mtalking. I don't say other side because
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there's so many planes on the other side.
And when you are in a,
an etheric body traveling in these realms,
sometimes you can be in a realm whereyou are creating, right? Like I said,
your mind, you could create immediately.
You can create things and do thingsand shape things. But this doesn't,
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that doesn't really affect thereality that you're in right now.
Then you can also be in spirit realmswhere you're literally in the spirit
version of the planethat you're in right now,
the reality that you're in rightnow. So this is a physical rally.
I'm in this room.
I can come out of my body and stillbe in this room and spirit form
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astral travel that mostpeople are used to.
So you're in the spirit realmof this physical reality
or the spirit version of thisparticular physical reality.
But again, there's more to that.
You can go into a reality wherethere are the people that have
transitioned, loved ones andso forth wherever they are.
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I don't even know what to call that.
Because I've met up with my dad severaltimes and I've also met up with entities
that try to look like my dad.And this is another thing.
When you are travelingin these spirit realms,
whether you want to callit astro or whatever,
you've gotta look into theeyes of these entities to make
sure that they are who they'reportraying themselves to be.
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You can usually feel the energy,especially if it's somebody that you know,
a loved one that's passed on,
you can feel their energy and knowthat that's not them or that is them.
But if you know that it is themor you sense that it is them,
also look into the eyes, all right?because the eyes will tell you everything.
Even when I go into other planesor other star system in other
planets such as Jupiter. For an example,
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I was there and there wasthis Russian guy, and we were,
me and him were talking, and I say he'sRussian because he had a Russian accent,
all right? And we weretalking and I was like, oh,
Jupiter Ascending thatmovie was real? And anyway,
so the point I'm making is that when Iwas there and I was having a conversation
with him and this other dude that Iwas talking to initially when we were,
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when I was talking to them,they looked human. You know,
I didn't really pay much attention tothem. I, I was looking in their face,
but I didn't reallylook hard into the eyes.
But then at one point when I lookedinto their eyes and looked like,
stared into it, they were cloudy,
they were different type of eyes. And Itold me right there that they weren't,
they weren't, they weren't human.Which brings me to another point.
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When you're in these other realitiesand you go to another star system or
another planet and you meet upwith people that look human,
they may not be human, they may just belooking human. So you don't freak out,
which is a great thing. Thank you forlooking human and not trying to scare me.
You know what I mean? But the ones who,
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who may not look human, there'snothing to be scared of,
it's just that you knowhow we are in this reality.
We're not used to seeing something thatlooks like something that you'd see on,
on a horror movie, butit is really not evil,
but it just looks strange to us.
So I'm just saying that to saythat when you go different places,
at least from my experience,
a lot of them make themselveslook human when they talk to you,
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so on and so forth.Which brings me to another thing.
When you are traveling andyou go into other planes,
um, you're not always in an earthly realm.
because remember I was telling youjust different realms of earth.
There's different planesof earth, I should say.
You could be on anotherplanet and in a different, um,
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plane of that planet ora different star system.
And there's three primaryplaces within a planet
that you could be that and isstarting with earth. For an example,
you have this surface earth, right?
There's also inner earth and there'salso this outer layer that we
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will call earth's atmosphere.
But it's part of earth. If you go there,
if you go into what we wouldperceive a future time,
there's a place called the X stop foran example, and people teleport there.
And when you go there, it is not,
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they don't call it earth's atmosphere.They say earth.
You see, people don't always say,and you go on the inner earth,
they sometimes call the inside, butthey may just say earth. So a long,
a lot of times when,
when all of these experiences firststarted happening to me, I'm like,
people kept telling me I was on earth ornot on, they didn't say on, they said,
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I'm like, where am I? They sayEarth. Eventually, as time went on,
I realized I was going to inner eartha lot and then eventually to this other
part of earth. And then there's a partof earth called... wells. There's a,
well, it's a gap orsomething. I'm not too,
I don't really understand that too much.
I'm still working on the understandingof that. But there's a whole other thing.
So the other planets are the same way.
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You could be on the surface inthe spirit version of that planet
or in what we would perceive a past timeor future time where people are on the
surface,
or you could be on theinside of that planet or in
that planet's atmosphere. If you're inyour astro body or you don't have a body,
of course you can be in the atmospherebecause you're not breathing.
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So some people would,
they don't believe that people havegone to other planets and all these,
remember your spirit. If you're, ifyou're taking your astral body someplace,
of course you can go there. What'sstopping you? The gas? You're not,
you're not breathing, youdon't have a physical body.
So what's stopping you from doing that?
So getting back to the teleportation,
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I want to mention that becausethat's a little different than
just your regular astraltravel or astral projection or
you coming outside of your body, driftingaway, going somewhere teleportation.
And what we perceive the future to be,
especially in around the year4,000 something is exactly what
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we think teleportation is here,
which is if someone couldtake their physical body,
body and teleport somewhere that happens,
it just hasn't happened yet. Or maybe ithas happened and the government kept it
from us, whatever thepoint is, there's a future.
What we perceive to be future here,
which is really just a parallel versionthat's happening right now of Earth
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where people are in the atmosphereand it's called the X Stop.
One of the places, and I askedthe lady when I got there,
how do people get here? Because atthe time, I was from the year 2016,
and this is 4,000, whatever.And she told me teleport,
she didn't say Ashe to travel. Shedidn't say consciousness going somewhere,
none of this. She didn't say nothingspirit related, anything mystical.
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It was just simple teleportation. Theyteleport. That's what she said, teleport.
And so when I told her I was from2016, she didn't trip. She wasn't,
she didn't flinch. She didn't likewhat, like none of that. The thing was,
there was an aspect of methat was in my astral body or
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etheric body initially.
Then my consciousness went intoanother version of myself from that
etheric body went to anotherversion of myself that was there.
because that can happentoo. You can leave your,
your consciousness can leavethe etheric body that you are
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maneuvering around the spirit realmwith and go into another body.
because remember, you're nottechnically leaving anything. It's what,
what you're allowing yourself to beaware of. So there's an aspect of you,
if you want to call it higher selfor highest version of yourself that's
orchestrating all of this. And you'reable to now go from what you perceive,
right in this, this moment tosomething else just like that.
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And it happens a lot whenyou're in the spirit realm.
You can just go somewhere else and beinto another quote unquote physical
reality from the spirit realm.And that's what happened.
So I teleported,
but the teleport didn't happenfrom the Vernita here body.
I was in the spirit realm for first.
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My consciousness went into anotherversion of myself that teleported.
You see what I'm saying?
Because there was another versionof me that was in that reality
that knew who these peoplewere. While at the same time,
that Vernita consciousnessin this reality didn't know.
I was kind of like sharing thatconsciousness. A part of me knew,
a part of me didn't know.And there were people, well,
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one person in particular that I knew fromthis reality playing a different part,
so to speak.
And that person was not somebodythat had been in my life a long time.
That person actually was a supervisorof mine from years ago from a job
that I had. And we kneweach other very well,
very well in that reality.That can happen too.
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I have a cousin that have been, um, in,
in different places that I've beenwhere he's not my cousin in those other
realities. He's my cousin here. And hewas a stranger in one of the realities.
It's like the people that we,
that we interact with in this reality,even if it's just for a season,
even if it's somebody who's not amajor player in your reality right now,
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just someone that you'vemet along the way of life,
they may be somebody who's reallyimportant to you in another lifetime,
which is again, a parallel reality.
And we're like playing parts witheach other in different lifetimes.
It's very interesting how this works.
And once you allow yourself to havethese various, various experiences,
you'll see that. Alright,
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so lastly I want to talk aboutbilocation and trilocation.
And I briefly went intobilocation a little bit,
but let me explain it further.Again,
your consciousness cango many different places,
wherever it wants to go without anan etheric body or an astral body.
You can also lay in a bed, sit in a chair,
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be in this reality, relaxing. Youhave your out-of-body experience.
You can feel your bodydrift away. By the way,
just because you don't feel your bodydrift away does not mean that it's not
astral. It doesn't mean thatjust because you don't feel it,
that it's just consciousness travel.
Because you can leave yourbody in multiple ways and your,
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your etheric or astral bodycan leave different areas.
And it also may leave so quicklythat you don't even feel it.
Just wanted to say that. Butonce you leave your body,
you can literally feel yourself still.
Like if you're laying in the bed atnight, laying in the bed and having your,
your astral experiencewhile at the same time your
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consciousness or your consciousawareness part of it leaves the
body and go somewhere elseand be completely aware of what's happening there,
filling all three places simultaneously,
this happens. Okay? And you can go,it can go even further than that.
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because remember, you are pureconsciousness. That's what you are.
So all of these things that are happening,
you can literally split your consciousnessin ways where your awareness can be
multiple places at a time. So that'swhere that bilocation, trilocation and,
and so on comes from. That can happen.
Now when it comes toleaving this world in what
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people will call death, andthen you're going somewhere,
you're not really going anywhere.
You are transitioning toan awareness that is was
already there. It's already there.
Right now we have our consciousawareness in this particular reality,
like full blown, thisis it. But it's not it.
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When you transition out of this reality,
what happens next is differentfor different people.
I'll talk about that in another time.
But this whole thing thateveryone's talking about,
you going through a tunnel andmeet up with your family, all that,
that may happen to somepeople, but with others,
you could literally leave thisreality, go right into another reality,
live a life, go right into another one.Live a life, go right into another one.
Some people can remember all of thoselives and some people don't. It depends.
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It there,
there's so many different ways inwhich things happen once you leave one
reality and go into another one. And it'sdifferent for different people. It is.
So I had an experience where I waslaying in the bed and everything was dim.
It was like I was in a hospitalroom or something. I was laying.
So from this reality's perspective,
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I was laying down in my bed having an,
what people would call astral travelexperience because my astral body or
etheric body left andwent to go explore, okay?
Simultaneously with,
there was an experience where I was ina bid that seemed like a hospital room,
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but it started getting dimmer.
So I couldn't really tell whetherit was a hospital bid or not,
or who I was.But I obviously I was sick and I was
dying. I was in hooked upto machines or whatever,
and I was taking my last breath.
So the room was gettingdimmer and dimmer and dimmer.
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And then I took my last breath,and as I broke, breathed out,
my spirit merged with theversion of me that was in the
astral realm wandering around.
I'm calling it astral realmin this particular sense,
but it could have been another,um, type of spirit realm. But I,
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I believe it was the astral realmbecause of the reason that I was there.
I'm not going to get into all of that,but I merged with that version of myself.
Just like that. There was no tunnels,
there was no family welcomingme and all these other things.
Another thing to keep in mind is that theversion of you that you are right now,
depending on a lot of belief systems,
determine what happens next once youleave outside of this reality. So
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I could leave outside of this realityand be completely awakened to everything
that I'm saying in itsfull knowingness, right?
And when that happens,
who is the family that's going tocome and greet me for the simple?
And I'm saying that because you've beenmany people. So it doesn't necessarily,
if you come out of this reality withthe consciousness of knowing all the
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various versions of yourself,
it's not just going to be the familythat you know here that passed on that's
going to greet you and all of that,
that will happen with people who arestuck thinking that that's all that they
are. So it's very common for someonewho if that's all you think you are,
then it makes sense that the peoplethat have passed on in this particular
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reality, when you leave, greet youand all these other type of things,
not everybody needs that greeting.And also keep in mind that some people are
like, this reality that we livein is literally an, an initiation.
Some people are sitting up in a templeright now, either in a cave or a pyramid,
and this right here, this realityis part of their initiation process.
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This is not, um, oh, let me justgo to earth and have some fun.
These people are literally,this is like a dream.
This is a dream to them in a world whereit's like they're going through trials
and tribulations to see ifthey've passed these tests.
That's not everybody's situation though.
That's why I say what happens topeople when they leave is different.
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Okay?
I want to put that out there becauseeveryone is under the impression that it's
all the same thing and it's not. Andyour belief in this reality that it is,
it plays a, it's a factor, putit that way. It's a factor.
And there are many factors that'sgoing to determine complete the,
the complete determination of what youexperience once you leave this reality.
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I want to say that I'll talk moreabout that in a another episode,
but I want to say that because there'rewhat's recently happened, um, lately,
is, uh,
people that I've known that havetransitioned family members and others and
different things.
And then I'm seeing oneperson in particular that's completely shifting how they
are for whatever reason,
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thinking that they're not going to gosomewhere because they need to believe
certain things that are taughtof religious beliefs and,
and certain things like that.
And so I just want you to understandthat it's not the same for everybody,
but what is the same as we wake up?
What you wake up to is going tobe different, but we wake up.
All right?So let's recap.
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Astral travel is a typeof out-of-body experience.
OBEs do not equate to astral travel.
Your consciousness can leave your body,
either this particular body or yourconsciousness is leaving a version
of you in another reality, andyou go travel that way, okay?
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When you have your etheric body orastral body traveling around in different
realms, you could bein all kind of realms.
It doesn't need to be necessarilythe astral realm because spirit realm
is very vast. So there'sdifferent versions of that.
When you're in a physical reality,
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you could just be pure consciousnesshaving an experience looking into
that reality and be engulfed in thatreality, but you don't have a body.
You can also view that reality from in
a spirit world that Idon't know what to call it,
but it's the void if,
if you want to call it that.A lot of people like to say that,
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but I'll just say this. It'sa darkness, it's a dark area.
You don't see anything to the right andleft of you, but right in front of you.
It's different scenariosthat are playing out.
And you can take your consciousnessand go into those scenarios.
When you go into those scenarios, you'regoing into those scenarios with a,
an a body. You'll have a bodyonce you pop into those scenarios.
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So your consciousness cango into another physical
reality as pure consciousness. Itcan also go into the spirit realm.
So a spirit reality if youwill, as pure consciousness.
And then travel from there to differentplaces, seeing the scenario play out,
phase into it. And there's differentlevels of all of what I'm talking about.
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I'm just trying to keepit as simple as possible.
And that is called ins slide ability,not the popping in and phasing in,
but the fact that you can see eitherfrom the movie screen being rectangular
type of situation, or
the circular telescope type of wayof viewing. You can also buy, locate,
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try locate and be multiple placesat multiple times and be completely
aware of the various placesthat you are traveling around
in while still filling yourself,laying in a bed or sitting in a chair,
being in one other place,
and then in another place and in anotherplace simultaneously that is possible.
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Okay? You can go intoother versions of yourself,
whether it's in the the spiritrealm or in another physical reality
in another planet or on another planet,
or around another planet or star system.
That is how multidimensional you are.
Once you allow for yourselfto have these experiences,
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especially when theycome on spontaneously,
because your higher self isleading you into something,
you'll see that these experiences are fun.
They're telling you somethingas long as you pay attention.
And they're also a way of tapping intomemories. Have you ever wanted to tap
into a memory and wanted to know whathappened in a quote unquote past life,
which is really a parallelversion of yourself?
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Some of these experiences thatyou have? That's what that is.
You're literally tapping into the memoryby seeing through the eyes of that
version of yourself.
If you're having spontaneous out of bodyexperiences and you want to make sense
of all of it,
and you want to navigate all of thiswith comfort and ease and want someone to
guide you through it,
go to meetwithvernita.com and let'shave a conversation and let's see if it
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makes sense for us to move forwardtogether. All right, so with that said,
I'll see you on the nextepisode, episode eight,
where I'm going to be talkingabout lucid dreams versus OBEs.
Having an out-of-body experiencedoes not equate to astral travel,
but many people think it does. So peopleuse those two terms interchangeably.
The thing is,
there are many different types ofout-of-body experiences and astral travel
is only one type of an OBE.
When you only associate out-of-bodyexperiences with astral travel,
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there are many things that are completelymisunderstood and can cause confusion.
So I want to bring clarity to this andtalk about astral travel versus other
types of OBEs. So let's talk about it.
Welcome back to anotherepisode of Mystical Recall here at mysticalrecall.com.
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I am Vernita Seahrey Sherman,
and I'm an Interdimensional Traveler andOBE Mentor that works with individuals
who are having spontaneous out-of-bodyexperiences that want to manage those
experiences with comfort andease. And this is episode seven.
And on this episode I want to diveright into the difference between astral
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travel versus other OBEs.All right,
because everyone is using itinterchangeably. You know,
there's been times whenpeople have introduced me to other people and said that
I astral travel when really I haveout-of-body experiences that go beyond
astral travel along with astral travel.
Astral travel is not the only form of OBE.
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And I hear a lot of people teachingpeople that that's what that is.
And I'm like, okay,
if someone's having spontaneousout-of-body experiences and they think that the
only form of an out-of-bodyexperience is astral,
then there are many things thatthey're not going to understand.
And there's freakouts that may happenbecause they may think that they're only
in the astral realm and thingsgo beyond that. All right,
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so let's talk about the two primaryplanes that you visit when you come out of
your body that is non-physicaland physical. And yes,
you can visit physical planesoutside of your body because your
etheric body or your astral body doesnot go with you into those planes. It is
your consciousness that travels intothose other versions of yourself.
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And those other versions of yourselfalready have the body double the etheric
body or astral body that looks like thephysical body in that particular plane.
So let me break this down. One thing thatI always say is to keep things simple.
I don't separate the energy bodiesinto little separate compartments.
Like I don't say there's the soulbody, the spirit body, the astral body,
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the etheric body and all these variousdifferent bodies. The emotional,
the the mental and all these differentthings because it confuses people
to keep it simple.
There's one energy bodythat has multiple layers,
but I talk about them as if it'sall one thing. And don't get into,
into the individual layers. And Iprefer to use the term etheric body.
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When I'm saying etheric,I also mean astral. Okay?
Now this body looks likethe you that you are
right now. So me Vernitathat you see on the screen,
for those of you who arewatching and not just listening,
there is a see through transparentversion of the me that I am
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that looks like me right now.
It would be the equivalent to whatif you watch a movie or TV show,
what they portray a ghost to look like,
the see through transparentperson, it looks just like that,
but it's bigger thanyou. It's like it's you,
the physical you was inside of it asopposed to it being the other way around.
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So it's bigger than you. It'ssee through as transparent.
And when you leave yourbody, your physical body,
you can feel it drift away sometimes.
Now there's sometimes you don'talways feel it drift away,
and I'm going to get into that later,
but it is the what you're feelingdrifting away. It is that body double.
All right? And it's a bodydouble, because again,
it looks like you inthis physical reality.
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There are multipleversions of you in parallel
realms. I'm not going toget into the science of it.
I am not a physicist,
a scientist a into quantum physics andall that. I do like quantum physics and,
but I'm,
I'm not the expert in it can tell you howthe electrons and the neutrons and all
that's moving around. And Idon't get into all of that.
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I speak based on my experience andI speak based on what I receive in
other realms, telepathicallyand memory opening up. Okay?
So there's multiple versions of you theway that you are right now as the person
you know yourself to be on multipleplanes of existence. Okay? Now,
these multiple planes arewithin different... let's see,
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the best way for me to describeit, let's just use earthly plane,
right? So you have this oneearth. There's other earths too,
but I'm not going to get into all of that.
This one earth within thisparticular universe has multiple
planes of it. Withinthose multiple planes,
you have even more planes, if youwill. I don't separate terms, realms,
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worlds and, and planes.
I use them interchangeably forthe same reason with etheric,
astral and all that, it gets confusingwhen you separate all these things,
right?
Trying to explain stuff like this getsvery confusing when you start using
labels for every single little thing.
And it's the reason why people don'tunderstand certain things and how life
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works. Because when someoneuses one particular label,
someone else will be like,no, it's this. No, it's that.
And they're talking about the same thing.
It's just the label that they'reusing to describe it is different.
So I keep it really simple,
as simple as I possibly can.There are different realms,
different worlds, whatever.
I'm just going to say planesright now of earth by itself.
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There are different planes of otherplanets and there are different planes of
other, other star systems, okay?
And so everything is not non-physical.
There are multiple physicalplanes that you are on.
So if you take your consciousness intoanother version of yourself or another
aspect of yourself, you're notnecessarily in a higher dimension.
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You could be in another 3Drealm or a 4D realm. You know,
it can be the same exactdimension that you are here,
but it's just a parallel version.There is no past life and future life.
We talk about past and future becausethat's how we perceive things in this
reality. So I don't mindsaying past and future,
but please understand that allof your lives are right now.
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And you know that whenyou have your experiences,
when you have these out-of-bodyexperiences. So when you-
I'm speaking to people specifically withthis podcast who are having spontaneous
out-of-body experiences.
So when you have these experiencesand you see yourself, if you do,
you may be thinking that you're in apast life or future or whatever the case
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may be,
but really it is youtraveling on another plane
that exists right now. Okay?So let's get that out the way.
So not only are you inexistence in other planes
as the you that you are right now,but also as other people that you are,
you are not just who you knowyourself to be. You are other people,
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human and non-human in otherlifetimes that exist right now
on a parallel plane. Okay?
So when your consciousnesstravels without the body,
meaning the etheric or astralbody, it does it because your,
your consciousness, your,
or I should say your conscious awarenessreally because you're traveling all the
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time,
but your awareness of it going somewhereelse is going into another version of
you somewhere that already has a bodydouble. So your etheric body does
not have to go with itbecause you, you're already,
there's already a body waitingon you. Put it that way. Okay?
Another thing to understand isthat when your consciousness
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travels, it can travelinto the spirit realm,
not just another physicalplane without a body.
So there will be times when you havean out-of-body experience where you do
not feel that drift away feeling, okay?
And it can be because your consciousness
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is what's traveling and you're in like-it, it's different for different people,
because there's so many differenttypes of out-of-body experiences.
But I'm going to break it down tojust a few. But there's so many types,
and you may have experiencedthis, and if you haven't,
you will at some point becausethere's more than just astral travel.
That is like a beginning stage.Once you get past astral travel,
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you'll experience some of the thingsI'm about to say. And that is your
consciousness,
your awareness is in a statewhere there's nothing there.
And what I mean by that is everythingis dark on the sides, okay?
But in front of you isa screen, so to speak.
The reason why I'm calling it a screenis because it will have one of two
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shapes. It could be rectangularlike at a movie theater.
And it can also be circular. Likeyou're looking through a telescope.
You have no body. If you were to lookdown at yourself, there's nothing to see.
It's like nothingness. You'rejust pure consciousness,
just pure spirit. Seeing somethingplay out in front of you,
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which is usually a scenario.
You see a scenario that's playing outright in front of you on a screen.
The screen could be like you're sittingin the front row of a movie theater like
this or can be a little further back.It's different than what
some people call remote viewing becauseyes, you're, you're viewing remotely,
but you're not viewing fromyour body's perspective.
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It's not like you can feel yourselfin your physical body and then you're
seeing some remote place. That'snot what I'm talking about.
That can happen as well. Butthat's not what I'm talking about.
I'm saying that your awareness iscompletely out of your body and you're in
this in-between spirit realm placedwith less like a nothingness.
because everything is dark exceptfor what's in front of you.
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You see scenarios that are playingout. It could be one scenario,
a situation that's playing out somewhere,
or you can see one here andthen another one over here.
And you can choose to pop in orgently enter yourself into that
reality. I say pop in,
but you- that's just how I say itsometimes. But you can basically
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phase yourself into thatreality if you want to,
and then have yourexperiences there. That-
what you, when you, whenyou're seeing the screen,
whether it is square or it's circular,
that is called inslide ability.
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And I know this because thatis what another aspect of me
communicated to metelepathically. When I'm in these,
I was actually looking at differentlives that I had and so many different
scenarios playing out. Itwas like different screens,
so to speak. And I was told that thisis called inslide ability. All right?
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And so this inslide ability isanother aspect of you that is higher
dimensional and more expandedthat views beyond just an
astral realm. Because you literally,
some of these scenarios that are playingout, they're not all physical realms.
Some of them are astral planes thatyou enter yourself into. You, you,
you're like seeing different things andyou can decide whether you want to go or
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not or just sit back and just see whatyou want to see. But usually for myself,
I'm not just going to sit back.
I'm going to phase myself or pop myselfup into that reality and then have my
experience.
But I found very quickly that theexperience is not always astral.
And the experience is not always physical.
And the experiencesometimes is a lucid dream.
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So sometimes you can goinside of a dream world.
I'll talk about lucid dreamsat another time. Because there,
there are some distinctionsbetween- even though the,
the line is very blurry now,
but there's some distinctions betweena very vivid lucid dream and an
out-of-body experience.
And you can use certain ways ofdetermining which one you're in.
But when it comes to your OBEs,
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where it's just your consciousnesstraveling and you don't have that spirit
body, you, you, there's no body. Again,
you could be in this place whereyou're using your inslide ability.
Another thing I want to mention iswhen you're in that in-between place,
the where you're experiencing the wholeinslide ability and you're seeing on the
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screen and everything, there arebeings or people, if you will,
that can interact with you whileyou are looking at a particular
scenario. So it's not always ascenario that's going to play out.
You literally can look andthere's a room, right? And well,
I'm going to give you an example.So, one time, for an example,
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I saw a room and this little girl cameout from the left side of the screen
and she looked right at me andshe held out her arms to give me a
book, this big giantbook. So she literally,
when she held out her armswith the book in her hands,
she reached across the screen like,
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just imagine you're at a movie theaterand you are watching a movie and
this person comes out and looks atyou and then reaches across the screen
and you're able to just grab whateverthey hand you in the theater. And they
reached across the screenfrom inside the screen, okay?
So she reached acrossthe screen and the book-
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because I didn't have hands,I was pure consciousness.
I didn't have any hands or arms. Icouldn't just reach out and grab the book.
So what happened waswhen she let the book go,
it started floating in the air andstarted swaying from left to right,
left to right, you know, just kept onswaying back and forth, left to right,
right to left, kept onswaying, swaying, swaying.
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And so I had to take my mind focuson the book to stop it from swaying
so that it eventually stopped and I couldread what was on the cover. All right?
Stuff like that can happen as well.That wasn't the only time that happened.
There was other people inother places where I'm like
looking at like a screen and they areinteracting with me. And I'm like,
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how in the world are they able to do that?
So some of these people could bespirits, but in this particular case,
they represented aparticular type of being or
species that was tryingto communicate with me.
I'm not going to get into allthose details, but the thing is,
there are other beings out thereand other places, other star system,
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other realms that are benevolent,
that communicates with us as well.
And they have certain waysin which they do that.
And that's one of the ways she,
the the girl had the bookand I was reading the book.
And also when you're in that type of state
and you're not doing the whole endslide thing where if there's a screen,
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there can also be like onetime there was a stapled
some papers that were stapled together.And that's all I saw was papers
stapled together. And I wasn'tlooking through a screen.
It was actually in the realityor in the place that I was.
And so I'm reading what's onthere and then I flipped the page.
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I didn't have any arms,
so my mind flipped the page andstarted reading the next thing.
I got pulled back into my body before Ihad a chance to finish whatever this- it
was alot on there.
But the point I'm making is that thesethings happen and you can use the
information that you receive from eitherother people or when you're in that
state, that state, that spirit,state of just pure consciousness,
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and you see things and you things appearand you can read it or you can watch
it, whatever it is,
take in that information and bring asmuch as you can that you can remember back
into this reality because it canassist you in your life. All right?
So I just wanted to say that also youcan take your consciousness and travel
into the air. Now,
what I mean by that is bothliterally in the air and also
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in inside of an objectwhere you have no body
and well, let me, let me, let me backup. So in the air, let's start with that.
I've had experiences where I'mliterally viewing from the perspective
of a bird, so to speak.But I'm not in a bird.
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I don't have any kind of body.
My consciousness is justhaving a bird's eye view
engulfed in that world. Andwhat I mean by that, again,
going back to the whole remote viewthing, I'm not talking about that.
because you can be within your bodyand Remo view something remotely
in that way. But I'm nottalking about that. I'm, I mean,
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your consciousness is literally inthe place wherever that place is.
And you are moving aroundin that place with no body.
It's just pure consciousness.So no one can see you.
And you could be in an astral plane in,in, or some other type of spirit realm.
Or you can be in a physical planeincluding this one, all right?
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In an object, one time I was in a car,
and what's interesting is this wasmore of a bilocation type of experience
because I felt myself layingin the bed on my back,
while at the same time I was in this car,
while the part of me that was in the car
wanted to move the car. It was a nice,beautiful neighborhood somewhere.
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The car parked on the side, I was inthe car and I couldn't move the car.
So I knew I wasn't, um, in,
in a spirit realm because you can doeverything with your mind when you are
in a spirit or astral realm, okay?Whatever you think happens,
whatever you intend happens. And ithappens like that. It's immediate.
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I could not move this car. I couldn'tmove anything. I was just there.
And so
I'm feeling myself laying inthe bed while at the time,
at the same time being in this car. And I,
I look down because I'm wondering why my,
my arms and are not raisingup so I can drive this car.
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But I had no legs. I looked down,I had no legs, I had no arms,
I had no anything. What I sawwas the car seat, black car seat.
And so I'm looking aroundand there's, I have nothing,
no body. It's just consciousness inthis car. And I couldn't move the car.
I didn't want to get out the car.I just wanted this car to move.
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Don't ask me why.
That's a whole other story why I didn'twant to go outta the car. But anyway,
it didn't, I it was justpure consciousness and another physical reality,
okay? That is an out of body experience.
You are completely out or I was completelyout of this body that I know myself
to be physically in this reality.
Yet I wasn't in a spiritplane or an astral plane.
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That's why I'm telling you that thereis way more to an out-of-body experience
than just astral realms andastral plane and spirit realms.
Your consciousness can literallygo anywhere physical or
non-physical. You can go there. Now,
back to when you're inother versions of yourself,
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these are like other soul pieces.
So you are a soul made up of spirit.
And the different aspects of youare having multiple lifetimes
parallel to this life thatyou're living right now.
There's different parts of your soul,we'll call it. Pieces, like I said,
are fragments.Some people like to call it fragments,
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having their own exploration inwhatever plane that they're in.
Physical and non-physical.
And so what's happening is it's notnecessarily that that that you're
trying to bring pieces back togetherand all these other type of things.
It's just that you are having an awarenessof these other parts of yourself.
And so when your conscious awarenessis in these other parts of yourself,
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you're viewing from the eyesof that other body, okay?
You don't need your etheric body or yourastro body to go with you in order to
do that. And so you can havethat experience as well as,
as an experience where you're kindof split your consciousness in a way.
And what I mean by that is you'rein the body of someone else while
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at the same time you're thinking likethe you that you are here. So it's like
two different versions all in the samebody. But you're, you're, well you,
you're always thinking like the you thatyou are here. If you want to want to,
that's fine. But in this case,
what I'm saying is you're sharingthe same brain, so to speak.
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You can tap into that other versionof you or the other person's
consciousness and know things aboutthis individual while at the same time
knowing yourself as you, okay?
I was in the body of thisgirl who was in middle school.
I'm not going to go throughthe whole story because it,
it is a long story and I don'twant this episode to be too long.
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But I was in the body of a girlwho was in middle school and I was
30 something years old, right? So I'm inher body and I knew that she had been,
been adopted and she hadproblems with her foster
sister or something. And was girlwas making fun of her or whatever.
I knew all these things without havingthe experience of it because I knew what
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she was thinking. While at the sametime, I'm Vernita you understand?
And this brings me to another point thatI want to mention really quickly. This,
when I had that experience,that was the first time,
the first or second time thatI was in someone else's body.
And I realized when I cameback into my body, oh my God,
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like I understand this whole multiplepersonality disorder thing that people
have. Sometimes people are,
make the assumption that's somedemon or some possession of,
of some entity possessionthat a person is having a lot.
Some people don't even believethat that's even a thing.
But those who know that there's somekind of possession that's happening,
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it's not necessarily that that's what itis or something evil or whatever. This
person who has multiple personalitydisorders or whatever they call it these
days may be tapping into other aspectsof themselves. And for whatever reason,
there's some kind of chemical imbalanceor some kind of something that's going
on where they have nocontrol of what's happening.
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And so these other versionsof themselves are coming in,
speaking out in this reality.
Those versions may even be confusedat why they're even in there.
because I sure didn't know why Iwas in this girl's body. I'm like,
what is this what, you know? So it's,
it is very important that when thesethings happen to you and you're another,
you're in another version of yourself,
another lifetime that you understandwhat's going on so that you can
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control yourself andknow what's happening.
So that you yourself in thereality, your home reality,
this reality don't ventureoff and into some type
of psychosis or mentalhealth type of situation,
which many people have becausethey freak out, they get scared,
they get fearful. And the only frameof reference they have for this is some
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type of mental problem.There is no mental problem.
The people that have the mental issue,
they're not in alignment and in harmonywith the other aspects of their soul
pieces. Okay?
So I just wanted to to say thatif you know anybody that has some
type of... like I said, multiplepersonality type of situation going on,
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mental health issue,when it comes to that,
keep in mind that it's not always likesomething evil that is possessing them.
It could be other soul pieces.
And so this person needs tounderstand more about their
multidimensional nature and, and reallyseek the assistance that can help them.
Now,
I'm not saying that it's as simple asjust talking to somebody who knows about
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OB such as myself,
someone like that definitely needsprofessional assistance and help with with
that. And hopefully thepsychologist or whoever they go
to understandsmultidimensional nature, okay?
And understands that we're allmultidimensional. And this,
what we're talking about and what I'mtalking about on this episode is a real
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thing.
So I just wanted to say that now youas the consciousness that's going into
these other versions of yourself,
once you understand that powerand how powerful that is,
you are literally tapping intomemories of yourself by experiencing
it.
It's not like you're sittingdown meditating and waiting for something to come
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to you telepathically,which is cool, that's great.
But to actually have that experienceand see firsthand with other versions of
you had experienced, it's like it's real.It makes it real and make, oh, okay.
You know, it's, it's, it's very powerful.
And once you become comfortable with allof this and harmonizing and align these
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various aspects of yourself together,
it can be very fun.All right?
And you'll really enjoy these experiences.
Now when it comes toastral travel and you feel
yourself leaving your body or you're inan astral plane and you, you, you see,
you have a body that isvery powerful as well,
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that type of OBE, theastral travel experience.
It's like you are in a spiritrealm that in some of these realms,
by the way, and this isanother thing, astral,
everything isn't just astral all right?
There are so many differentversions or planes or
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realms within the non-physical realm,
which is one of the reasons why I don'tsay other side. When people say, okay,
there's this side, the physical, andthen, then there's the other side, you go,
what? There's, there's multiplesides to the other side.
So that's not a, a term,
a term that I really use from when I'mtalking. I don't say other side because
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there's so many planes on the other side.
And when you are in a,
an etheric body traveling in these realms,
sometimes you can be in a realm whereyou are creating, right? Like I said,
your mind, you could create immediately.
You can create things and do thingsand shape things. But this doesn't,
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that doesn't really affect thereality that you're in right now.
Then you can also be in spirit realmswhere you're literally in the spirit
version of the planethat you're in right now,
the reality that you're in rightnow. So this is a physical rally.
I'm in this room.
I can come out of my body and stillbe in this room and spirit form
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astral travel that mostpeople are used to.
So you're in the spirit realmof this physical reality
or the spirit version of thisparticular physical reality.
But again, there's more to that.
You can go into a reality wherethere are the people that have
transitioned, loved ones andso forth wherever they are.
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I don't even know what to call that.
Because I've met up with my dad severaltimes and I've also met up with entities
that try to look like my dad.And this is another thing.
When you are travelingin these spirit realms,
whether you want to callit astro or whatever,
you've gotta look into theeyes of these entities to make
sure that they are who they'reportraying themselves to be.
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You can usually feel the energy,especially if it's somebody that you know,
a loved one that's passed on,
you can feel their energy and knowthat that's not them or that is them.
But if you know that it is themor you sense that it is them,
also look into the eyes, all right?because the eyes will tell you everything.
Even when I go into other planesor other star system in other
planets such as Jupiter. For an example,
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I was there and there wasthis Russian guy, and we were,
me and him were talking, and I say he'sRussian because he had a Russian accent,
all right? And we weretalking and I was like, oh,
Jupiter Ascending thatmovie was real? And anyway,
so the point I'm making is that when Iwas there and I was having a conversation
with him and this other dude that Iwas talking to initially when we were,
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when I was talking to them,they looked human. You know,
I didn't really pay much attention tothem. I, I was looking in their face,
but I didn't reallylook hard into the eyes.
But then at one point when I lookedinto their eyes and looked like,
stared into it, they were cloudy,
they were different type of eyes. And Itold me right there that they weren't,
they weren't, they weren't human.Which brings me to another point.
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When you're in these other realitiesand you go to another star system or
another planet and you meet upwith people that look human,
they may not be human, they may just belooking human. So you don't freak out,
which is a great thing. Thank you forlooking human and not trying to scare me.
You know what I mean? But the ones who,
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who may not look human, there'snothing to be scared of,
it's just that you knowhow we are in this reality.
We're not used to seeing something thatlooks like something that you'd see on,
on a horror movie, butit is really not evil,
but it just looks strange to us.
So I'm just saying that to saythat when you go different places,
at least from my experience,
a lot of them make themselveslook human when they talk to you,
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so on and so forth.Which brings me to another thing.
When you are traveling andyou go into other planes,
um, you're not always in an earthly realm.
because remember I was telling youjust different realms of earth.
There's different planesof earth, I should say.
You could be on anotherplanet and in a different, um,
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plane of that planet ora different star system.
And there's three primaryplaces within a planet
that you could be that and isstarting with earth. For an example,
you have this surface earth, right?
There's also inner earth and there'salso this outer layer that we
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will call earth's atmosphere.
But it's part of earth. If you go there,
if you go into what we wouldperceive a future time,
there's a place called the X stop foran example, and people teleport there.
And when you go there, it is not,
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they don't call it earth's atmosphere.They say earth.
You see, people don't always say,and you go on the inner earth,
they sometimes call the inside, butthey may just say earth. So a long,
a lot of times when,
when all of these experiences firststarted happening to me, I'm like,
people kept telling me I was on earth ornot on, they didn't say on, they said,
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I'm like, where am I? They sayEarth. Eventually, as time went on,
I realized I was going to inner eartha lot and then eventually to this other
part of earth. And then there's a partof earth called... wells. There's a,
well, it's a gap orsomething. I'm not too,
I don't really understand that too much.
I'm still working on the understandingof that. But there's a whole other thing.
So the other planets are the same way.
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You could be on the surface inthe spirit version of that planet
or in what we would perceive a past timeor future time where people are on the
surface,
or you could be on theinside of that planet or in
that planet's atmosphere. If you're inyour astro body or you don't have a body,
of course you can be in the atmospherebecause you're not breathing.
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So some people would,
they don't believe that people havegone to other planets and all these,
remember your spirit. If you're, ifyou're taking your astral body someplace,
of course you can go there. What'sstopping you? The gas? You're not,
you're not breathing, youdon't have a physical body.
So what's stopping you from doing that?
So getting back to the teleportation,
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I want to mention that becausethat's a little different than
just your regular astraltravel or astral projection or
you coming outside of your body, driftingaway, going somewhere teleportation.
And what we perceive the future to be,
especially in around the year4,000 something is exactly what
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we think teleportation is here,
which is if someone couldtake their physical body,
body and teleport somewhere that happens,
it just hasn't happened yet. Or maybe ithas happened and the government kept it
from us, whatever thepoint is, there's a future.
What we perceive to be future here,
which is really just a parallel versionthat's happening right now of Earth
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where people are in the atmosphereand it's called the X Stop.
One of the places, and I askedthe lady when I got there,
how do people get here? Because atthe time, I was from the year 2016,
and this is 4,000, whatever.And she told me teleport,
she didn't say Ashe to travel. Shedidn't say consciousness going somewhere,
none of this. She didn't say nothingspirit related, anything mystical.
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It was just simple teleportation. Theyteleport. That's what she said, teleport.
And so when I told her I was from2016, she didn't trip. She wasn't,
she didn't flinch. She didn't likewhat, like none of that. The thing was,
there was an aspect of methat was in my astral body or
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etheric body initially.
Then my consciousness went intoanother version of myself from that
etheric body went to anotherversion of myself that was there.
because that can happentoo. You can leave your,
your consciousness can leavethe etheric body that you are
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maneuvering around the spirit realmwith and go into another body.
because remember, you're nottechnically leaving anything. It's what,
what you're allowing yourself to beaware of. So there's an aspect of you,
if you want to call it higher selfor highest version of yourself that's
orchestrating all of this. And you'reable to now go from what you perceive,
right in this, this moment tosomething else just like that.
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And it happens a lot whenyou're in the spirit realm.
You can just go somewhere else and beinto another quote unquote physical
reality from the spirit realm.And that's what happened.
So I teleported,
but the teleport didn't happenfrom the Vernita here body.
I was in the spirit realm for first.
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My consciousness went into anotherversion of myself that teleported.
You see what I'm saying?
Because there was another versionof me that was in that reality
that knew who these peoplewere. While at the same time,
that Vernita consciousnessin this reality didn't know.
I was kind of like sharing thatconsciousness. A part of me knew,
a part of me didn't know.And there were people, well,
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one person in particular that I knew fromthis reality playing a different part,
so to speak.
And that person was not somebodythat had been in my life a long time.
That person actually was a supervisorof mine from years ago from a job
that I had. And we kneweach other very well,
very well in that reality.That can happen too.
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I have a cousin that have been, um, in,
in different places that I've beenwhere he's not my cousin in those other
realities. He's my cousin here. And hewas a stranger in one of the realities.
It's like the people that we,
that we interact with in this reality,even if it's just for a season,
even if it's somebody who's not amajor player in your reality right now,
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just someone that you'vemet along the way of life,
they may be somebody who's reallyimportant to you in another lifetime,
which is again, a parallel reality.
And we're like playing parts witheach other in different lifetimes.
It's very interesting how this works.
And once you allow yourself to havethese various, various experiences,
you'll see that. Alright,
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so lastly I want to talk aboutbilocation and trilocation.
And I briefly went intobilocation a little bit,
but let me explain it further.Again,
your consciousness cango many different places,
wherever it wants to go without anan etheric body or an astral body.
You can also lay in a bed, sit in a chair,
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be in this reality, relaxing. Youhave your out-of-body experience.
You can feel your bodydrift away. By the way,
just because you don't feel your bodydrift away does not mean that it's not
astral. It doesn't mean thatjust because you don't feel it,
that it's just consciousness travel.
Because you can leave yourbody in multiple ways and your,
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your etheric or astral bodycan leave different areas.
And it also may leave so quicklythat you don't even feel it.
Just wanted to say that. Butonce you leave your body,
you can literally feel yourself still.
Like if you're laying in the bed atnight, laying in the bed and having your,
your astral experiencewhile at the same time your
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consciousness or your consciousawareness part of it leaves the
body and go somewhere elseand be completely aware of what's happening there,
filling all three places simultaneously,
this happens. Okay? And you can go,it can go even further than that.
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because remember, you are pureconsciousness. That's what you are.
So all of these things that are happening,
you can literally split your consciousnessin ways where your awareness can be
multiple places at a time. So that'swhere that bilocation, trilocation and,
and so on comes from. That can happen.
Now when it comes toleaving this world in what
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people will call death, andthen you're going somewhere,
you're not really going anywhere.
You are transitioning toan awareness that is was
already there. It's already there.
Right now we have our consciousawareness in this particular reality,
like full blown, thisis it. But it's not it.
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When you transition out of this reality,
what happens next is differentfor different people.
I'll talk about that in another time.
But this whole thing thateveryone's talking about,
you going through a tunnel andmeet up with your family, all that,
that may happen to somepeople, but with others,
you could literally leave thisreality, go right into another reality,
live a life, go right into another one.Live a life, go right into another one.
Some people can remember all of thoselives and some people don't. It depends.
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It there,
there's so many different ways inwhich things happen once you leave one
reality and go into another one. And it'sdifferent for different people. It is.
So I had an experience where I waslaying in the bed and everything was dim.
It was like I was in a hospitalroom or something. I was laying.
So from this reality's perspective,
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I was laying down in my bed having an,
what people would call astral travelexperience because my astral body or
etheric body left andwent to go explore, okay?
Simultaneously with,
there was an experience where I was ina bid that seemed like a hospital room,
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but it started getting dimmer.
So I couldn't really tell whetherit was a hospital bid or not,
or who I was.But I obviously I was sick and I was
dying. I was in hooked upto machines or whatever,
and I was taking my last breath.
So the room was gettingdimmer and dimmer and dimmer.
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And then I took my last breath,and as I broke, breathed out,
my spirit merged with theversion of me that was in the
astral realm wandering around.
I'm calling it astral realmin this particular sense,
but it could have been another,um, type of spirit realm. But I,
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I believe it was the astral realmbecause of the reason that I was there.
I'm not going to get into all of that,but I merged with that version of myself.
Just like that. There was no tunnels,
there was no family welcomingme and all these other things.
Another thing to keep in mind is that theversion of you that you are right now,
depending on a lot of belief systems,
determine what happens next once youleave outside of this reality. So
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I could leave outside of this realityand be completely awakened to everything
that I'm saying in itsfull knowingness, right?
And when that happens,
who is the family that's going tocome and greet me for the simple?
And I'm saying that because you've beenmany people. So it doesn't necessarily,
if you come out of this reality withthe consciousness of knowing all the
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various versions of yourself,
it's not just going to be the familythat you know here that passed on that's
going to greet you and all of that,
that will happen with people who arestuck thinking that that's all that they
are. So it's very common for someonewho if that's all you think you are,
then it makes sense that the peoplethat have passed on in this particular
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reality, when you leave, greet youand all these other type of things,
not everybody needs that greeting.And also keep in mind that some people are
like, this reality that we livein is literally an, an initiation.
Some people are sitting up in a templeright now, either in a cave or a pyramid,
and this right here, this realityis part of their initiation process.
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This is not, um, oh, let me justgo to earth and have some fun.
These people are literally,this is like a dream.
This is a dream to them in a world whereit's like they're going through trials
and tribulations to see ifthey've passed these tests.
That's not everybody's situation though.
That's why I say what happens topeople when they leave is different.
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Okay?
I want to put that out there becauseeveryone is under the impression that it's
all the same thing and it's not. Andyour belief in this reality that it is,
it plays a, it's a factor, putit that way. It's a factor.
And there are many factors that'sgoing to determine complete the,
the complete determination of what youexperience once you leave this reality.
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I want to say that I'll talk moreabout that in a another episode,
but I want to say that because there'rewhat's recently happened, um, lately,
is, uh,
people that I've known that havetransitioned family members and others and
different things.
And then I'm seeing oneperson in particular that's completely shifting how they
are for whatever reason,
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thinking that they're not going to gosomewhere because they need to believe
certain things that are taughtof religious beliefs and,
and certain things like that.
And so I just want you to understandthat it's not the same for everybody,
but what is the same as we wake up?
What you wake up to is going tobe different, but we wake up.
All right?So let's recap.
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Astral travel is a typeof out-of-body experience.
OBEs do not equate to astral travel.
Your consciousness can leave your body,
either this particular body or yourconsciousness is leaving a version
of you in another reality, andyou go travel that way, okay?
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When you have your etheric body orastral body traveling around in different
realms, you could bein all kind of realms.
It doesn't need to be necessarilythe astral realm because spirit realm
is very vast. So there'sdifferent versions of that.
When you're in a physical reality,
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you could just be pure consciousnesshaving an experience looking into
that reality and be engulfed in thatreality, but you don't have a body.
You can also view that reality from in
a spirit world that Idon't know what to call it,
but it's the void if,
if you want to call it that.A lot of people like to say that,
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but I'll just say this. It'sa darkness, it's a dark area.
You don't see anything to the right andleft of you, but right in front of you.
It's different scenariosthat are playing out.
And you can take your consciousnessand go into those scenarios.
When you go into those scenarios, you'regoing into those scenarios with a,
an a body. You'll have a bodyonce you pop into those scenarios.
(45:21):
So your consciousness cango into another physical
reality as pure consciousness. Itcan also go into the spirit realm.
So a spirit reality if youwill, as pure consciousness.
And then travel from there to differentplaces, seeing the scenario play out,
phase into it. And there's differentlevels of all of what I'm talking about.
(45:43):
I'm just trying to keepit as simple as possible.
And that is called ins slide ability,not the popping in and phasing in,
but the fact that you can see eitherfrom the movie screen being rectangular
type of situation, or
the circular telescope type of wayof viewing. You can also buy, locate,
(46:04):
try locate and be multiple placesat multiple times and be completely
aware of the various placesthat you are traveling around
in while still filling yourself,laying in a bed or sitting in a chair,
being in one other place,
and then in another place and in anotherplace simultaneously that is possible.
(46:26):
Okay? You can go intoother versions of yourself,
whether it's in the the spiritrealm or in another physical reality
in another planet or on another planet,
or around another planet or star system.
That is how multidimensional you are.
Once you allow for yourselfto have these experiences,
(46:48):
especially when theycome on spontaneously,
because your higher self isleading you into something,
you'll see that these experiences are fun.
They're telling you somethingas long as you pay attention.
And they're also a way of tapping intomemories. Have you ever wanted to tap
into a memory and wanted to know whathappened in a quote unquote past life,
which is really a parallelversion of yourself?
(47:10):
Some of these experiences thatyou have? That's what that is.
You're literally tapping into the memoryby seeing through the eyes of that
version of yourself.
If you're having spontaneous out of bodyexperiences and you want to make sense
of all of it,
and you want to navigate all of thiswith comfort and ease and want someone to
guide you through it,
go to meetwithvernita.com and let'shave a conversation and let's see if it
(47:35):
makes sense for us to move forwardtogether. All right, so with that said,
I'll see you on the nextepisode, episode eight,
where I'm going to be talkingabout lucid dreams versus OBEs.
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