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Rebecca (00:07):
[Transcripts r Welcome
to the Mystical Truths Podcast.
This is Rebecca and I'm reallyglad you're here.
Let's unlock your world.
I've invited Eileen, who is adear friend and a very artistic,
creative soul, to share with usher experiences and even
questions about how birds andother creatures are messengers
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of guidance and reassurance fromnon-physical.
So welcome, Eileen, than yo,I'm happy to have you here.
I think this will be a fun talk.
Eileen (00:39):
Rebecca Rebecca, you.
Rebecca (00:39):
Rebecca, it's good to
be here, so tell us about your
bird experiences.
You mentioned to me that you'vehad some experiences with
certain birds that you feel aremessengers from the other side
or information about those whohave passed.
So go ahead, tell us what yourexperiences are.
Eileen (00:58):
I lost my mom in January
and I found this year, when I'm
sitting out on the porch,especially Y k my sister on the
phone, all of a sudden there'dbe these Cardinals which I've
heard lots of people talk aboutCardinals and everything and one
got physically on the porch andstarted squawking at me as
we're talking about my mom andI'm like, hi, mom, l k o to join
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us.
So I feel like, well, you know,good of you to join us.
So I feel like somebody's there, somebody's there.
And my dear friend lost herhusband last year and he was
into birds, had one w of i thosebird feeders that had the
camera on it, ther' three she'salso noticed a lot of cardinals.
So we started talking andwondering about you know how
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this happens, why this happens?
So I thought it'd be fun totalk about.
Rebecca (01:49):
Yeah, because it makes
us wonder, like, is that e
what's hey're happening?
Is that for real, right?
You know, I have a woman whoevery time she comes to see me
here at my office, well, let mesay first, the first time she
came was because her father hadjust passed and this bird flew
right behind me, behind mywindow, and then one like kind
of came and bumped the doorwhile we're talking about her
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dad and to her dad.
And so every time she comesthere's some kind of bird
experience like that.
And the first time she was hereI walked out the back door,
which is my office is at theback door, and there's three
steps going down to the ground,and on the second step there was
a feather, and this was aboutan hour after she left, and that
was the door that a bird had,like, banged on.
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And so it's easy for us to say,well, that's kind of cute and
maybe, maybe that was her dad ormaybe that was your mom, you
know the cardinal.
But it sort of leaves us withbut is it Like, how does that
actually happen, right?
And what those in nonphysicaltell us not that birds,
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especially, they're influencingall kinds of stuff in our world
to guide us and to sort of giveus hints that they're there,
those little nudges.
Little nudges, they're verysubtle, usually Not always, but
usually.
And they say birds are justreally receptive, sort of like
insects, but birds are a littlebigger, easier for us to notice.
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We're usually not trying to shoothem away like we do insects,
but I've had the insectexperiences too and definitely
the birds and all that.
I j o that they're veryreceptive to O the e're that's
coming from the other side, inother words the waves of thought
, and they're very plentiful ithere's it's a lot of them,
they're quickly ready, they'revery mobile and it's just easy
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to blend w with w them d So theysay what happens is our loved
ones or any hen of our soulsthat guide us I don't like to
call them project theirattention or an impulse in the
direction of, say, a bird orother creatures, and then they
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and that bird or creature focustheir attention on you.
So it's not like they'rebecoming the bird or the rabbit
or whatever is being utilized inthe moment.
They're influencing and they'resort of blending their focus
with that animal for the reasonof letting us know that they're
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there, and I think it'softentimes more than one of them
anyway, like more than one soulwe tend to think that it's just
one, like when we get a messageor we get a sign.
Y k t.
p It's s often hey're a groupefforting Okay, we're so well
tended to that there are alltypes of souls paying attention
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and guiding, and so it's.
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k I know that they really enjoyit when we do, not disappointed.
When we don't, they get it.
t fun when we do and you canimagine why it would be.
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You know they're putting some lthey're not effort, there's no
effort on their end but they'reputting that thought there,
they're joining with you andit's nice.
Yeah, you know they're puttingsome they're not effort, there's
no effort on their end butthey're putting that thought
there, they're joining with youand it's nice when you get it
and you recognize it, even if itfeels silly to say hey, mom,
you know, yeah, I know you'renot that bird, but I'm thinking
about you.
Eileen (05:39):
y, k but ecause say it
like, why not?
Rebecca (05:41):
you know because when
we're open to it and we're
attentive to it, we're going toy .
0[Eileen.
As[ more.
Okay, it's not that it'shappening more, it's that we
will recognize er more.
We'll finally see it when weweren't seeing it before.
Okay, which is fun.
Eileen (05:55):
And like i those quiet
times, I bet, yeah, when like,
are sitting outside, yeah, yeah,I, as I'm sharing this with
other people also, a friend toldme her husband passed, her son
got married.
It was outside and her husbandwas a tall six foot man and she
said, there in the tree was thetiniest little bird that sat
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through the whole weddingceremony chirping and she's like
big guy, little bird.
I thought it was really neat,but she really believed that he
was also there and I do too.
Rebecca (06:29):
Yeah, it's.
It gets to really be funbecause, like I, have hawk
experiences.
L hey're them for a long timeand they're so unique and just
in the moment that you can'tdeny that they're influenced by
the other side.
And my family even thought Iwas a little loony because I was
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having them, A it was just me,by myself.
And a then when they startedrecognizing that this was
happening sometimes when theywere with me now, now a wasn't
so loony, right, not that theyreally thought it was loony, but
it's hard to believe somethingyou don't experience and because
l I kept saying like these areso unique, and there was even
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I'll just share a couple of themthere r one that flew right
beside my car for a very longwhile, like on the driver's side
, and it was hard, like I wastrying to pay attention to the
bird but drive at the same timeand I'm laughing and having fun
and thinking this is just likeso fun, like that's all it is.
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Like they're not i l really apoint necessarily, it's just
because it's fun.
There was one time I wasdriving the car with someone and
I said I really feel like ugood is t to happen, like really
exciting.
And I was driving, I went tothe atm machine and then came
out and I was m waiting at atraffic light a to he make a
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left and I made l What acrossthis big intersection and just
Like, this " hawk came flyingdown right in front of my
windshield and like sort of spunand did this belly up kind of
thing.
And if, if my windshield wasn'tthere I read I could have
reached out and touched it.
"We're could see it's like realsoft, fuzzy, white fur on its
belly and it just did this weirdflip and then up and away and
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it went and sat on the umtraffic light thing because,
like I'm watching it in myrearview mirrors, I'm going down
the road and it was turned myway just watching me go down the
road and the person I was withsaid, like what was that?
That never happens?
Like what?
And I said that was theexciting thing.
That was what I was feeling alittle while ago.
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That is so fun and it it really.
It's just for the fun of it,but it's also for the
recognition that we're payingattention, we're playing this
game with you.
S t s i a a t w he alone, and Ithink that's the real honey in
it.
You know when your I mother canshow up to say I'm still here
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and you're not alone, right?
You know?
And there's so many stories.
You a he's and books written.
You know about differentstories that people share, and
there's one I was just readingin Chicken Soup for the Soul,
the Angels Among Us edition.
I was reading this story andI'm not big on the word angels
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either, just because there areso many different thoughts about
that, and I agree with thewoman that shared the story.
Her little daughter said theirangels are just like us and I
agree.
Suddenly, this story is aboutand this woman the title is
Daniel and the Pelican says, andthis woman was driving home
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from work.
, a six lane highway, threelanes in each direction, and
cars are screeching on brakes,parting in the middle of the
lanes and she's wondering what'sgoing on.
There's this huge pelican smokyon the road and not bothered by
anybody, not bothered by Y thek screeching he tires, thing, in
any hurry to leave, justhanging out on the road.
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And so she managed to pull overand o h s through is traffic to
try to shoo t this bird shirt,to the lake that was just off
the road and he didn't want togo.
But she was able to shoo himand finally get him reluctantly
to go down the hill into thewater.
And she said I just made itback to my car when I turned and
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looked that he was back on theroad again.
So back, she goes throughtraffic and she's shooing him.
Two more times.
She did it so four timesaltogether.
And so now she said, she saidher and the pelican are on the
curb and she's just at her wit'send.
You know she's praying forsomething, like something has to
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happen, like I can't keep doingthis.
And the penguin was justpreening its feathers, just not
worried about anything, notreally caring.
So she said there we stood, I'mreading the book now.
There we stood on the curb likea couple of folks waiting for a
bus.
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Suddenly a shiny red pickuptruck pulls up and a man hops
out.
He says would you like A a hhand s And she says I'm seldom
at a loss for words, but onelook said, this very tall
newcomer rendered me A h s to doanything but nod.
He was the said, striking manI'd ever seen Smoky black s hair
, muscular with tan skin, tendersmile, dimples.
You know the whole thinghypnotic, crystal clear,
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caribbean blue eyes.
She said he was almost toobeautiful to be real.
She noticed on his shirt.
His name was embroidered on thework shirt it said Daniel.
And he said I'm on my way to theseabird sanctuary.
I'd be glad to take him.
And he said I have a big cagein the back of my truck.
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And she said oh, that would bewonderful.
And she said do you volunteerat the sanctuary?
And he said every now and then.
And she said in my wildestdreams said, Have have imagined
a more perfect solution to said,my No dilemma.
The bird was going to be savedby a knowledgeable his/her with
movie star him/her, who justhappened to have a pelican sized
cage in the back of a his truckand he was on his way to I the
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w sanctuary j So she says, as Iwatched Daniel prepare for his
passenger, I couldn't shake thefeeling that I knew said, him It
from somewhere.
And she Michelle said have wethought, met before?
And he said no, I don't thinkso.
As he smiled at I and she saysI held my breath as the man
crept toward the pelican.
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Their eyes met.
S s s hat Daniel to drape atowel over his face and place
him in the cage.
There was no struggle, no her,flapping Mommy of the wings and
no protest from t the h bird y kh.
o t w.
y The k whole h thing t h y.
k And h so o, you know, excitedand thanking him.
And Oh said it was my pleasure,michelle.
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And she thought wait a s minuteWell wait a minute, how did he
know my name?
She said, W only ow knew hisname because I saw s on ,
shirt.
We never spoke of names.
And so she said she's A, s buts she t about point, t I t
h I day.
And she said she calledattention, the sanctuary later
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to check on the pelican andasked if she could speak with
Daniel.
And no one there had ever heardof him, wow.
So said, said that eveningthey're talking about it, her
husband and her child, duringdinner.
s And her little girl said toher ..
.
.
, I bet he's your angel,that's how you know him, or
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that's why you know him, that'show you know him, or that's why
you know him.
And she said oh, but t Danieldidn't have any wings, honey.
And the girl So, says well, alot of angels don't have wings.
And her mother said well, howdo you know this?
And she said well, I see them.
They're just ethers?
a you w and c me and daddy.
And she said, at this point Iput down my fork and gave her my
full attention.
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it w said o Julie o t o Itthink the people you see are
angels?
And her daughter said becauseGod is in their faces.
And I thought that is so true.
Those on the other side caninfluence people too.
I'm sure they can appear inhuman form well enough that we
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can see them.
I'm sure they can pull thetruck out of the ether, however
that works.
So was that a real person thatwas influenced by the other side
to help in that situation, ordid they take human form and
pull the truck out of the ethersand who cares?
Eileen (14:51):
M i n e the aybe other
it was something.
Rebecca (14:52):
Maybe it's not either,
maybe it's not even either of
those, maybe it's something droptotally, but a know for sure
because there are so manyexperiences like like this that
are happening and have beenhappening forever.
It's just people A more apt totalk about them now that it
reminded a of years ago because,again, it's a story that helps,
but it doesn't really get yourbelief in place until you've had
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an experience yourself and I'vehad several over the years.
But this is one a that e reallystands out for me this was
years ago, my kids Hi very youngstands out for me.
This was years ago, my kidswere very young, my husband was
laid off hat it was it was likesort of an ongoing thing.
So we're getting frustratedwith it and concerned, and I was
just really feeling down andI'm walking toward the
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unemployment office to drop offhis claim.
This was back when it was apaper and an envelope and you
had to jump it off, and I hadboth kids with me, one in each
hand, and I'm just, you know,sort of a moping t down the
sidewalk.
And I got to something, thesidewalk entrance of the
unemployment office and therewas this man who looked like a
homeless man.
I don't know where he came from, he might've been walking and I
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didn't i l, but he was justright there in front of me and
he looked at me and he saidsomething along the lines of hi,
I hope you're having a nice day, or something.
I don't remember[EileenWow!.
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[ Wow Wow the words, because itwas the sensation.
That was y incredible owI remember looking at his hand
and his fingers were and, hisfingernails were dirty and there
was no judgment.
There was something calming,something radiating, that
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completely changed my I, dcompletely T w disposition, and
it happened very quickly.
So he said something I look athim.
I just happened to look at hishand.
I said thank you, or I hope youdo too, or something like that,
because the whole thing is likeit was just overwhelming.
And so I took a few stepstoward the door to the
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unemployment office and I'mtrying to figure out what just
happened.
And I turned around and Icouldn't see him.
Wow, and it was open sidewalks,there was nowhere for him to go
.
And I thought, you know, I justhad to stand there for a minute
because I thought what I know,what just happened, I know
exactly what just happened, butthe fact that it happened in my
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life right now is something I'llnever forget.
And so I dropped the y k andwalked back say, Well literally
floated back to my car, y I kthink, with the kids, and be,
didn't change my whole world.
It didn't.
There wasn't a.
My husband didn't get calledback to work the y next day.
Things did get better.
But it was confirmation for methat we were being paid
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attention to, that we were notalone and that the shit's real.
Yeah BE that's really real.
And so I think that you knowsome people was, might say of,
well y k never happens for me,you know, and my suggestion
there would be think about it alittle bit once in a while, then
wonder if it's . for you,because you you can't invite it
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A in s and say m it doesn'thappen to you at the same time,
because we can never be in theproblem and have a solution.
They just don't be in m thesame space.
Just like the woman in thestory I just read, she was
asking for a solution, a miracle, something like there has to be
something, because I can't dothis anymore.
It's not working the way I'mdoing it.
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So she asked for a solution.
She didn't stand there andthink this is terrible.
It's never ending.
This.
This is not going to work.
One of us is going to getkilled, she said.
[Rebecca.
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Now Now even thought later thatevening other when she was sort
of you know, just reflecting,she thought, you know, I didn't
even realize until now that thatwas three lanes of traffic I
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was navigating through fourdifferent times I could have
been hit by a car.
And so I mean, I'll always saythat if it's not your day to die
, you're not going anywhere.
If it's your day for anaccident, you might maybe have
an accident.
So not only was it not her dayto have either one of those, it
was her day to have anexperience with the other side.
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And here's another reason whythey do this.
It was for her, but then shetold the story.
Eileen (19:11):
Now efinitely a S B, t
other h people a he story, it
just ripples out well, y k up toher daughter too, and t
daughter felt more comfortableand we always say a are more
intuitive and receptive to thatstuff.
Rebecca (19:26):
I definitely are Sure
Because they haven't, and she
even mentions that in the storythat you know.
She said it made her realizethat things that d had heard
before about kids are more openand more intuitive and more
available to.
This is true because they havenot been conditioned out t of it
.
You know, when saying we y werek\ , my, my brother she's had
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two imaginary friends.
Right, , called e them hisknows imaginary friends, which
I'm glad b they f did that.
That was better than sayingyou're crazy or you're, you're
just making that up.
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Those were his imaginaryfriends a a and i I o don't
remember a whole lot about ithe's five years younger than I
am.
I just o remember that he usedto play with i his s imaginary i
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s f t o s thought, oh, that'scute.
form, know he's playing withhis imaginary friends.
Now it would have been evennicer maybe because we're
talking about this more and morenow, more people understand it
would have been nicer if theywould have known who he was
actually talking to.
Right, those weren't imaginaryfriends.
B with the other side.
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I think we all do when we'reborn, and I think we all do for
quite a while, but it doesn'ttake long for us to get
distracted by the externalenvironment and then overhear
things.
Even I think with with thiswoman's daughter saying you know
that was your angel.
She's probably picked thatverbiage up somewhere, because
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even she knew they don't havewings, because of course they
can project the image of wingsif they want to, if it helps us
understand and in a way thatit's a symbol for non-physical.
So if you see an image of astatue of a person, well, that's
a person, but if we put wingson it, oh, that's not a person
anymore, it's somebody, it'ssomething from the other side,
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it's a non-physical in physicalform so it's a way for us to
differentiate, I guess.
But we have.
There are many, many different.
attention, There are a lot ofbirds flying I'ma sign signed
Not all of them are y trying kget our attention not all of s
them . saying I'm assigned wfrom t i side that o i o just s
t said we, they're doing theirthing severalminutes minutes
they're following their impulsesand sometimes that impulse says
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go look at eileen.
Like Oh another story in thebook .
a woman who No woke herdaughter up.
Her daughter s thedaughterreplied, t e that adult
Well, this Mom like 10 years old, so I'm sure she's even more of
an adult now b But she woke herdaughter up really really early
way, earlier than she normallywould have been getting up.
And she o said r come here,look at this dove.
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There's this beautiful dovethat has been sitting in this ,
, dove, cooing forever, like forminutes upon minutes.
And she said it's just sittingthere looking at me.
she so the daughter, you know,goes into the room and she looks
and she said well, said, Well,that is interesting.
And she said we just stoodthere for minutes just watching
each other, and then it flewaway and the daughter . O
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something ma had.
ad, that was interesting.
And her mother said, no, thatwas a sign.
And she said that a dove's.
She'd been readmitted to thehospital a few days prior and
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was having some healthconditions or whatever.
So I don't think they reallyknew whether she was going to
pass or not.
But that dove to the mother.
Y k a her sign that this dove ishere because Oma has just
passed.
And the daughter said well, Idon't think so, but whatever,
I'm I have, to bed.
She room, said I no sooner gotto u my bedroom and the phone
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rang oh, my head just passed.
l So o these i are l truestories in this a, like I said,
there are a lot of stories, andif any of you out there want to
come on the podcast and shareyour stories, I'm more than open
to that.
And if any of you out therewant to come on the podcast and
share your stories, I'm morethan open to that, because I
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think the more we talk about it,the more we'll expect it and
then the more we'll recognizethem when they happen.
You know and I was thinkingabout the symbology of birds and
I didn't look it up because Ijust wanted to get my own fresh
perspective on it I have in mydining room a bird feeder that
suctions under the window, a eone l he it t has h light on it
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like a solar light, and I feedthe birds t and the squirrels.
I put some on the window dovesand all that.
So I'm always watching thebirds and the squirrels and they
have f so f fun.
So I'm thinking about the birdfeeder and how the birds are
free to come and go as theyplease.
There are a lot of them.
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There are a lot of differenttypes of birds, a lot of variety
, and they just sort of come andgo, just like the d souls on
the other side come and go.
They're always here with us,they're always flitting around
and even, like the doves that Ihave, come to my window.
f I think they're just so funnybecause they're doves, are kind
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of big[Eileen-It.
It It these are morning does andthey they're very flappy, like
they flop, b flop, flop, flop,But another thing they do "
they'll sit on the window ledgeand they'll duck down to where I
can't see them and then theyduck up again.
They come up and then they'llwatch me and they duck down and
then they pop their heads upagain and they watch me and it's
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just so fun to have fun withall these different types of
birds that come.
It is, but it does remind me ofthe other side and how they're
watching birds.
They're playing games.
They'll duck and then they'llwatch their what and then they
come and go.
They're aware of us.
We can't get too close, or theysort of seem to fly away.
In other words, you know we getthese subtle signs and messages
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and things like that, bits ofinformation from the other side,
but we can't grab onto them andhold them.
We can't call them in.
I can't sit in my dining roomand say, okay, birds, come on
right now I want to see three ofyou right now I could, and that
may happen, but not when I'mdemanding it.
If I'm daydreaming about it, Iwould love to see some birds
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right now.
There will be birds that come.
So the more ease we put intolife in general, the more
available we are to the guidancethat is around us all of the
time, not just in birds say, andYou animals, but in other people
n You know, the other side tellsus looking..
.
.
, we are often the bird that isdelivering a message to somebody
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else without O realizing hey'rewe're doing it, somebody else
without realizing that we'redoing it.
You know, there are times whereyou just have an impulse to say
something to somebody and youmay never know that that really
helped , , in that moment.
Right, or you may just have Jhank to smile at someone.
You know, it's funny.
Kids are awesome because I don'tknow what's up this year.
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But or whatever j this Justyear I've been to two different
amusement parks and each timeI've had a young girl not the
same girl, obviously, R are Ytwo k totally k t.
he A young girl stop and look atme and say you are so n.
e I'm j not l thinking I'm hot,it's like hey're I'm not looking
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, it's just.
It's so funny because I cantell they're not looking at me.
Now, Okay, they're looking at myinner being.
They're looking at, they'reseeing something that I think
all kids see.
It's just I'm probably moreopen to them actually saying it
to me, because I know whatthey're saying and both times I
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just looked back and w saidthank you Just thank you so much
for that.
I didn't feel like any had k y kyou are too.
Or just just be in that momentand appreciate the moment and
let it be whatever it is, buttake the honey from it Right?
You know, know that the otherside is speaking through
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children, adults, birds,squirrels, experiences, not even
just like they're speakingthrough billboards.
They're speaking throughlicense plates.
They're speaking through allkinds of things all day long,
every day.
Now we don't have to constantlybe looking for those and trying
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to connect the dots.
We'll make ourselves crazy bydoing that.
Just be aware and be willing tosay, well, that that was
interesting.
Like the next time any of youout there say, well, that was a
coincidence, stop for a minuteand ask yourself uh-huh, was it?
Eileen (28:08):
because there really
aren't any I know you know.
Rebecca (28:14):
So, thing to think
about birds is they have a
bird's eye view they can see abroad view or the bigger picture
than we can.
So that's another symbol for abird, because non-physical
obviously has a bird's eye view,bigger than a y.
k You know, they can see whatour intentions are, what other
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people's intentions are, whatour desires are, where
everybody's at Source isconstantly synchronizing all of
us, everything, not making.
We're free, we're.
We're doing this of our ownfree will, we're choosing as we
go and all that.
But they are guiding us andinfluencing us because they have
that broader vision.
So the next time any of you outthere think something like, um,
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something simple, like, whatstore should I go to?
I want some groceries.
There are three grocery storeswithin pretty easy reach for me.
So instead of this is what Iteach in intuition development
instead of thinking, well, thisone has double coupons, that one
usually has better sales, thisone, instead of getting your
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mind involved in it, get yourfeeling sense involved in it and
just feel like I don't knowwhich one, which one am I, which
one am I really feeling?
Instead of getting your mindinvolved in it, get your feeling
sense involved in it and justfeel like I don't know which one
am I really feeling right now,if I just put all three of them
energetically in front of me.
Which one am I gravitating to?
It'll be subtle, but payattention to it and just go.
Don't look for the burning bush.
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Don't think, oh, I'm going toGiant Eagle.
I don't know if anybody elsehas Giant Eagles, but we do here
.
I'm going to Giant Eaglebecause I'm averting an accident
if I go somewhere else, orbecause I'm going to meet the
man of my dreams.
It's not maybe, but just go.
Go and follow the impulses,because it'll work out better
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for you.
It'll be a good experience foryou because they know for you
right now, with what you'relooking for, which one would be
the better experience for you.
So if you can start with littlethings like that, it's easier
when you ask the bigger Andquestions, you know.
And if you want to sign, askfor it, but then expect it to
come, because if we you don'treally expect it, you won't see
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it.
Or if you expect it to be y onek type of "Let's, bring me a
red cardinal right now, mom, toshow me that you are listening
and you're paying attention.
That may work out, but mostoften it won't, because you're
trying to make something happenand you're only allowing one
possibility for your mother togive you a sign that she's there
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.
Why not say a cardinal would begreat, because I associate
cardinals with you.
But hey, I'm up for anything.
Find a creative way, mom, today,to just let me know that o
paying attention they, andhospice, , you pay attention so
that you don't miss it, becauseit'll happen, but oftentimes an
hour later we o forgot t u evenasked and o it came and we
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didn't A connect w the y dots wt t g w, a you n know t h, m
let's o be t really h playful rabout t, o make d it so I can't
miss it.
I don't know what it is, butmake it so I can't miss it.
You know me well enough.
So two things are happeningwhen you say that.
One, you're inviting thatexperience in in a nice, curious
, playful way, which is magical,and you're reminding yourself
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that this is possible.
And so when the birds show upor the whatever sign it is for
anybody out there, appreciate itand expect more well, I wanted
to interject.
Eileen (31:55):
My mom went into hospice
for a couple days right before
the end, okay, and they thehospice started out as a house
and then they connected itthrough like a glass walkway and
now they have more of the umhospital rooms y okay k type of
deal.
And y k walk through this glasswalkway and now they have more
of the hospital rooms, type ofdeal.
And when you walk through thisglass walkway, it had a ledge on
the top and it was just full ofceramic birds that people had.
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So it's, it is I a s definite ything k you know and then the
one nurse goes well, if you seesomething that hits you, take it
home with you.
So I mean they're all there too.
She was really in tune to you,know them passing and feeling,
you know loved ones around andeverything.
So it was a very nice Yexperience k at hings the end
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too.
Rebecca (32:43):
That is nice and I'm
sure you know I've talked with
some people , work in hospiceover the years and I've heard
stories of others.
I think there's even a TikTokhospice nurse I can't remember
her name, but she shares storieslike this where you know they
do have experiences that theyjust can't deny around people
who are dying.
You know things that they tellthem, things that they see,
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things that they see, and soanybody that's having a little
bit of a hard time, or maybe avery hard time, believing any of
this, do your Google searches,do your TikTok searches, you
know, look for the experiencesthat other people are having,
Because in that you're notreally going to totally convince
yourself, but you will openyourself up to the experiential
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learning and belief that thenwill pretty much lock it in for
you, Because there's nothinglike having the experience
yourself.
me did that really happen?
Or I can understand that say tome did that really happen?
Or I can understand that really.
You know, like one woman saidthat her husband had passed and
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she laid down to take a littlenap and she said, just as I was
like maybe drifting to sleep,she said he was right there in
front of me, right in front ofme, like radiating in front of
me, just hovering, and she saidhe looked amazing.
And she said and then he wasgone.
And she said to me, did thatreally happen?
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And I said to her you had theexperience, did you not?
And she said yeah, and I saidwell, then it happened.
But do you see how fast we areto think did that really happen?
Am?
Eileen (34:33):
I crazy.
Rebecca (34:33):
Is that my imagination?
w And that's what the woman inthe Pelican story said.
She was, you know.
After that experience.
She said I was wondering if Iwas just maybe losing my mind.
We're so quick to doubt we areand talk ourselves out of things
.
Eileen (34:49):
Yeah, y k and talk
ourselves out of things.
Rebecca (34:51):
A, you know, there's a
woman that I was talking with
years ago and her husband waspassed and he had brought some
information through for her andit was all great and everything.
And I ran into her w a monthlater no, actually it had to be
longer than that, because ittook her a month to really
realize this.
She said that the day we talkedthat evening she walked into
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her dining room and the lightwas on in her china closet and
she thought, well, I didn't turnthat on and she went to unplug
it and it wasn't plugged in andshe said the light eventually
went off and she just thoughtthat was really strange and she
said it took me almost a monthbefore it hit me that that was
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my husband.
And I said, of course it was.
It was the same day we talkedand the light was on and she
said, yeah, but like it didn't,it didn't hit me until like
almost a month later and Ifinally realized that was him,
it had to be him, and so it justgoes to show you how we can be
people can be so not eventhinking about it, like not
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connecting the dots at all, eventhough we had just talked about
him that day.
Eileen (36:06):
Because we are so busy
where our minds are going all
the time and when Eileen-.
Eileen.
[ passes, b b b t on.
Rebecca (36:13):
Yeah, and he had been
passed for a while passed[Eileen
.
A .
passed.
.
.
so this was not new.
Oh, okay, yeah, but but but too, and you are right, that's,
that's always there.
But I think that people arejust so used to maybe this not
being a thing that they don'tsee y the k dots to connect.
You know, and one of the things that he
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had said to her the first day wetalked was that she was holding
on to everything that he hadand he said let it go.
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[Rebecca-have.
have said I've[Eileen-No kepteverything the same since he
passed a lot of people do let itgo.
And so I think that talk withher, and then the light, and
then the realization a monthlater.
Finally, there's no hurry here,we're eternal.
We are eternal, so we haveplenty of time.
There's no hurry.
So even a month later, y k justsetting in, just all setting in
until it could get her to aplace where she could really
recognize that he was reallystill alive and that it is okay
for her to go on, you know, andlet stuff go.
So it's always fun to talkabout the other side and making
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it more real for us.
I don't think we have to betrying to.
Even as much as I talk topeople and I research and I have
my own experiences I'm notconstantly trying to be on the
other side.
I we came here to live thislife.
We should be focused here andhaving this life.
But it's nice when we blend,when we recognize that we're
co-creating here, we have freewill, we're calling the shots.
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Life isn't happening to us,it's happening right along with
us and we're never alone.
In that there's a bird's eyeview that can be very beneficial
and can even just pop in andsay hi, or how about if I just
fly beside you for a while?
Won't that be fun, right?
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Stuff like that, right?
Well, thank you, eileen, do you?
Eileen (38:20):
have any questions?
No, this is great.
Yeah, I hope we help some nother people.
.
.
Rebecca (38:25):
Me too.
I think that you know, like Isaid, the more we have fun with
this, the easier it's going toget for everybody.
Eileen (38:32):
Feel comfortable sharing
is what I say.
Yeah, talk to people about it.
You'd be surprised.
Everybody has a story.
Rebecca (38:39):
That's true.
There are a lot of people withstories that aren't being told
necessarily.
So, yeah, let's all get it outthere Share.
So for all of you out there,Eileen and I both wish you all
the best.
You can find me atmysticaltruthscom.