May 23, 2024 • 54 mins
Have you ever felt a nudge from the universe, a whisper that guides your steps or catches you when you stumble? That's the essence of today's Mystical Truths Podcast, where Rebecca and her guest, Mary, share spiritual signs and divine timing, starting with a near-catastrophic tech mishap that almost cost us this episode. Instead of calling it quits, Rebecca knew it was a sign to continue forward. Her conversation with Mary amplifies this theme, as Mary recounts the synchronicity of rediscovering Moses' story during Easter with poignant confirmation that the the other side hears her and agrees.
As we navigate through the murky waters of personal spirituality versus traditional teachings, we are reminded that our beliefs are a tapestry we weave throughout our lives. The stories within the Bible, like Moses' unfulfilled promise, spark curiosity and questioning, leading to vibrant discussions about the role of synchronicity and divine guidance against the backdrop of fear, control, and varying perspectives in religion.
We consider the journeys of many toward a more intimate spiritual connection that defies the confines of organized religion and speaks directly to the soul. Such a connection confirms, through personal experience, that signs from those in spirit are real.
To conclude, we discuss how adopting a peaceful indifference to external opinions paves the way to a life filled with signs and wonders, simply waiting for our recognition. And as a special offering to you, our valued listeners, we tease the upcoming "Tarot Made Easy" course, alongside the resources ready for your discovery at mysticaltruths.com. So come and join us, as we explore the profound, the playful, and the truly mystical realms of spiritual signs and divine timing.
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Welcome to the Mystical Truths Podcast.
This is Rebecca and I'm reallyglad you're here.
Let's unlock your world.
For a long time now, one of myfavorite sayings has been isn't
fun the best thing to have andinterestingly it's becoming a
thing on this show lately forSource or those in spirit to
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chime in during and now after arecording, and it's so fun.
Prior to the episode you'reabout to hear, I had a lot going
on in my personal life.
I even had to reschedule ourrecord date, which was a first
but fine.
Then the recording date came.
Mary and I had a greatconversation and then later that
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evening, as I went to transferthe two track recording to my
editing software, it wouldn'twork.
The test run that we did aboutfour weeks before kept
presenting over the current one,which made no sense at all
since they're two separate dates, two separate recordings I had
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recorded in between them onother dates.
They had no digital or appconnection to each other
whatsoever.
However, after several attemptsto get the test run out of the
way, I decided just to delete it, but somehow it deleted both
the test run and the episodethat we had just recorded.
(01:32):
They were both gone Now.
Keep in mind I'm not new tothis right, but it made no
logical sense.
I double-checked the recordingapp, the cloud, the editing
software, just to see if maybe,perhaps it transferred over like
it should have.
But it usually doesn't.
Both were gone from all of it.
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The test run was gone, theepisode was gone.
I started researching how do youundo this and what I found was
you don't.
Once they're deleted, they'regone.
And I thought how could this beLike?
Why I don't have time for this?
And then I thought of all thedon'ts.
I thought you know, I don'tlike this.
(02:12):
I don't want to tell my gueststhat we have to do the whole
thing over again.
I don't want to take time forthat.
I don't want any more extra inmy already extra month and I
don't want a high maintenancepodcast.
And I thought you know I couldbe doing other things.
And that's when I had thethought step away, stay neutral.
(02:39):
This must have some kind ofhoney in it, although I'll admit
, at the moment I didn't want tolook for any and I knew it had
to be there, but I wasn't in themood to look for it.
That's all right.
And at that point I had aconversation with Spirit.
I said you know, all right,like I'm not sure what's going
on right now, but there areother things that I could be
doing.
This podcast does take a lot oftime.
I enjoy it.
I'm hoping other people do too.
So if this is something thatyou recommend I keep moving
(03:04):
forward with, I want an obvioussign.
After all, this particularepisode is about signs.
So no little sign will do, andno sign to me will mean step
away completely.
So I'm going to bed.
You let me know and I let it goas best I could.
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The next day I did my best tostay neutral.
That evening, after checkingemail and such, I had the
thought to log on to therecording app.
I thought okay, I'm not reallysure why, but all right.
And initially it was exactlylike it was before.
In the app.
The test run said one take zerorecordings.
The cloud for the test run zerorecordings.
(03:47):
I looked at the episode Samething.
The app said one take zerorecordings.
The cloud said one take tworecordings Hers and mine.
I looked at it again and Ithought what Wait?
I checked this multiple timesthe day before and it doesn't
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take a day for a recording to gointo the cloud, so it wasn't a
timing issue and the test runwas still zero and zero.
It was completely gone from theapp and the cloud.
So all were deleted the daybefore and now now only one was
available and it was in thecloud and it had both of our
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recordings in it.
So, needless to say, I reallyappreciated the sign and the
divine timing.
So I hurried up and Idownloaded those two tracks onto
my computer and got them overto the editing software and then
, while I was editing, I cameacross several like clicks and
skips, like right in the middleof a word, just skips in the
(04:51):
track.
So I edited most of it out asbest I can.
You're still going to hear some.
There's even a little thing Iwas saying at one point.
That's kind of garbled, but Ihad to leave it in.
So I'm thinking, apparently,when spirit is returning a
recording from the spiritualcloud, it causes a few hiccups,
I don't know.
But I'm okay with that and I'mvery impressed that a talk about
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spiritual signs and divinetiming resulted in seemingly
impossible proof that we are notdoing this life alone.
And if you're enjoying thispodcast, thank those in spirit
for participating and greenlighting it.
So now on with the show.
So in this episode I have Maryback with me.
(05:35):
You might remember Mary fromthe episode titled Staying
Positive in a Sea of NegativePeople.
So we had a nice time in thatdiscussion and we got talking
about spiritual signs and divinetiming and how things just sort
of work out and how interestingit is.
And then Mary had an experiencethat she shared with me and
(05:56):
then we got the more we got totalking I said we should just do
an episode on this.
So welcome back, mary.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Hi, thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
You're welcome.
So tell us about the first,tell us about the experience you
had right around Easter Ithought that was really
interesting.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
So I was making dinner and I usually have the TV
running in the background justfor a little bit of noise.
I don't watch the news oranything like that, so I look
for positive things.
And I had on it's called theStory Channel and they were
running biographies and thebiography was about Moses and
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I'm half listening and they'retalking about everything that
happened to him.
As I'm sure many people know,he had a very hard life and
basically he was betrayed by hisbrother.
His mother had to give him upso he wouldn't be killed when he
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was a baby and you know, justhorrible, just horrible stuff
and just horrible, just horriblestuff.
And I'm thinking at the time,wow, the Bible is full of some
really messed up stuff.
And I grew up Catholic and Ikeep thinking things like well,
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it ends up, moses is freeing theslaves, helping to free the
slaves, and can see the promisedland, but he dies before he
reaches it.
And I think, well, god can't bethat mean.
Like, you know, this is theBible and it's all up for
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interpretation and men wrote it.
And you know this is the Bibleand it's all up for
interpretation and men wrote it.
And you know I'm thinking allthis and you know, at the same
time, I have so many thoughtsgoing through my head.
I'm making dinner and I'mtrying to concentrate on dinner,
but I still have all thesethoughts and I started thinking
about the podcast that we did,thinking, well, did I do the
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right thing?
All of a sudden, the lights goout in my house.
I'm making this dinner and it'slike I have all I have all
electric, like my stove iselectric and it's a time
sensitive thing that I wasworking on.
It was kind of a complicateddinner and I walk away from the
stove and I say all right,universe, what are you trying to
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tell me?
Just then, the lights came onNice, the TV also came back on,
and the TV never comes on byitself after a power outage.
It's a real finicky TV, but itcame right back on and they
start talking about MaryMagdalene.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
And I'm thinking well , Mary.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
So I thought it was, I thought it was interesting and
I took it as my sign that itwas OK to do what I did and and
it's kind of my path, kind oflike Moses had his path.
He was supposed to help freethe slaves and Moses, in some
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ways, like me, he just wanted tolive a quiet, peaceful life
under the radar, which is whatthat's what I do.
I try to stay under the radarfor the most part, so being on a
podcast like this is a big dealfor me.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
Yeah, because what you're really saying is is it
okay that I talk about thesespiritual things and that I'm
not so biblical in my approach?
Am I right?
Right?
Yep, absolutely, and that showsyou the ease we're being paid
attention to.
You know, you were reallyquestioning, you were really
(09:52):
wondering and pondering likewhat has been written and what's
actually true.
You know, like you said, youwere raised Catholic, so is it a
bad thing to be talking aboutlife in a spiritual way instead
of the traditional religious way?
I don't think it's goingagainst anything, but you got.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
you got your sign yeah, and I don't believe that
there's anything wrong with iteither.
It's just sometimes it's niceto have reassurance.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
Yeah, especially when you know you're in a world
where you feel like you have tohide this.
You know that you can have yourspiritual thoughts and your
sort of religious awakenings andthat it'd be okay.
Because will you get pressurefrom other people, like if you
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went and told everybody you knowthat you question some of the
Bible and you're realizing thatthere are some spiritual
approaches and understandingsthat really make good sense to
you?
So if that happens, if you justout yourself, what would that
look like?
And it's just something thatyou don't want to do or you
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haven't wanted to do.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Right.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
Because it's a personal thing.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Right, and you know, being raised Catholic, I still
know a lot of Catholics and theywould think oh my you.
You know this is reallyhorrible.
And the ones that don't believein in catholicism or walked
away from it would think I'mnuts well, maybe not all of them
(11:33):
.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
They may be closeted, like you you know, and I,
honestly, I have had nuns cometo see me over the years.
I've had a few priests come tosee me.
I've had so so many Catholics,so many Catholics over the years
, and a lot of them arerecovering Catholics.
Not all of them, but really allof them have these same
(11:53):
questions, and I had them when Iwas young too.
I wasn't raised Catholic, but Iwent to Catholic church with my
friends.
I went to other churches.
We were Presbyterian.
I went to other churches, wewere Presbyterian, and you know
I would listen and it justdidn't.
The basis of it sounded great,but all the other stuff just
didn't add up.
It just didn't make sense.
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And the more you start toreally weed through it, the more
.
And then you look at otherreligions.
Right, you start to well, ifthat's what they believe, and
then this is what they believeover there, and then they over
there believe somethingdifferent again.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
They all right well, how, how?
Speaker 1 (12:33):
can they all be wrong ?
Yeah, they can't all be right,they can't all be wrong.
Maybe they are all wrong, butthey still have that foundation
that seems to be common ground.
But it's what people have donewith it since then, or, or you
know, out of that that hasbecome a whole mishmash of
control and fear and a lot ofstuff.
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That's very uncomfortable and,you know, I remember people
saying you know this, some ofthe things that they learned
very young in their churchesterrified them.
I mean, who wouldn't?
I mean, I remember when I wasyoung learning about, you know,
devil and hell and all that, andI thought, oh, that is like
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that can freak you out.
And I thought, is that reallywhat's going on here?
Because it just it.
Honestly, even as a a kid, itdid not make sense, and that's
that inner truth radar.
So, even though it didn't makesense to me, I still thought,
well, yeah, but what if I'mwrong?
that's actually true you know,how do you, how do you live on
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this planet and not go to hell?
then how right because you'regonna do something, and and I
don't believe that we can dosome things that people call bad
, and then just tell somebodyand do a couple things and then
okay, now we're off the hook.
You know, that didn't makesense either, and it didn't make
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sense to me that there was agod who would hurt people or
would damn people or was lesspowerful than a devil thing.
Right, it did not have.
It made any sense, and so themore I question, the more I, you
know, and that's why I say topeople just pay attention to how
it feels at your core, becauseeverything I've studied and
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learned spiritually, then I'monly talking about myself,
because there are some spiritualthings out there that'll freak
people out too, because peoplehave twisted things in this
place too, but the things thathave made sense to me have all
been about love, have all beenabout all the good stuff that we
want to talk about.
(14:47):
Sure, I mean, we live in thisworld of contrast.
There are hard times, but I'vecome to understand that there's
good stuff in the hard times too.
They don't have to be as hardas we make them, and that's what
I think we're going through nowis more and more people are
going.
Well, hold on, hold on, wait aminute.
I want to feel good.
(15:08):
I don't want to feel powerlesseither.
Right are fear-based and arecontrol-based.
Now, does that mean we have tobe afraid of any of it or take
it off the planet?
(15:28):
No, everything has its purposehere.
It's here for whoever it's herefor.
So if Catholicism or whateverelse makes sense to somebody, it
feels good to them, then it's amatch for them.
Where they're at right now intheir evolution, that's a
beautiful thing.
For them.
Where they're at right now intheir evolution, that's a
beautiful thing.
But there are more and morepeople, more and more souls, I
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should say, coming in on thetails of all of us who've been
saying what Hold on now.
And so as we expand and this istrue with everything, not just
spiritual beliefs, but as weexpand the ones that come in
after us are coming in at thatlevel, just like kids are coming
in tech savvy now.
You know they're tech ready.
There are souls coming in nowgoing wait.
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We're not going to believe that.
We're not going to believe thatyou can't just tell us that
there's, like this, hell and adevil, and if you don't do what
you say, then we're doomed foreternity, or something like that
.
Right you know, and so I startedat a young age.
You might have.
You know, I think a lot ofpeople today, the younger people
that are coming in, arestarting very young with, and
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that's why I think we see a dropin attendance at churches.
It's not because there's badthings happening and the devil's
getting control over it, it'snot.
It's not that it's not becausethere's bad things happening and
the devil's getting controlover it.
It's not that.
It's just that there's morerecognition of love and the
allowance of that.
The more we turn over here, theold ones die off, the new ones
come in.
The old ones die off, the newones come in.
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It gets better and better.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
Right, we're expanding.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
Yeah, we're expanding .
There are things about thehistory of the people on this
planet that are brutal.
There still is today.
We live in a world of contrast,but where are we going with it?
Where are we taking it fromhere?
We're getting better and better.
I mean, we're not dragging eachother around by the hair
anymore.
We may have never done that.
(17:23):
It may be something peoplethink was that, but we're not
dragging each other around bythe hair anymore.
We may have never done that.
It may be something peoplethink was that, but we're not.
You know clubbing each other,and you know, at a poker game,
we just shoot somebody and go onwith the poker game.
Right, you know we are gettingbetter.
You know we talk openly aboutabuse and things like that now,
so we're definitely makingmotion in the right direction.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
I mean that.
I mean that is relatively newto me.
I mean I don't remember as akid people being so open about
abuse or you know anything likelike it is now.
It's completely different.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
Yeah, I totally agree , because when I was young,
there was some stuff in myfamily and with me personally
and you knew not to talk aboutit.
Nobody had to tell you.
You just knew not to talk aboutit and not to tell anybody
about it.
And so when people like Oprahcame along I think Phil Donahue
was another one, probably it wasvery open.
You know, things like that juststarted creeping in because
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more of us were coming in sayingthis we can't keep doing it
like this, it's too we're, we'removing past this.
Just as an example, men don'thave sex with the children
because the woman, the wife,doesn't want to have sex anymore
, or whatever the case may be.
So they started having it withthe girls or the, the whatever's
.
Um, we, you know, I'm sure someof that still goes on.
(18:45):
Of course, it does but we'regetting a lot better at it.
So it's nice to see theexpansion, but you know, back to
signs, you know so divinetiming too, because not only are
you seeing those signs, but inperfect timing Right, that's
what's so awesome about it.
(19:05):
You know that the timing isimpeccable and you know it's
funny, because go ahead and talkabout the, the pictures that
you sent me, because there'ssomething I want to add that
happened today, that sort ofties in with those.
So go ahead and tell us aboutthose.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
The first picture was of two morning doves that I
sent you.
And now where I live, I mean wehear birds, we see them fly by,
but they do not approach ourdeck or anything like that.
We're not allowed to feed thembecause I live in an HOA and
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they're just you'll get fined orwhatever.
So we don't feed the birds, andso they don't.
They don't hang out at my oldplace they used to hang out all
the time cause I was alwaysfeeding them.
So well, I have to backtrack alittle bit.
The night before, um, my sonhad called me late in the
(20:05):
evening and was asking about amovie that we were watching when
we would watch when he was akid, and I thought it was kind
of weird or whatever.
Well, he had been having someissues health issues
relationship issues.
And the thought occurred to merelationship issues.
And the thought occurred to mewell, they got back together.
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And then I just put it out ofmy head.
Well then the next morning myhusband was standing at the
patio door and he looks out andhe says, come here, look,
there's two birds out here.
And I, I look and they're just,they're hanging out on the deck
, railing like nothing.
My cat's sitting there staringat them and it's two morning
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doves.
And I thought, wow, this isreally cool.
You know, this doesn't happen,this never happens here.
And later on in the day I gotthe call Well, we're back
together.
So I, I took that, as you know,that that sign that morning,
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yeah, was you know the universeletting me know that he's he's
happy and back together.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
So yeah, because you had the intuition.
Yeah, you just sort of had thatthought, which oftentimes is
inspired by the other side, andthen there's your backup.
Yeah, like it's just becauseit's fun.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
That's why this happens because it's fun.
So what was the other picture?
Speaker 2 (21:33):
The other one.
So my husband and I, we loveChinese food.
We're always, you know, goingout for Chinese or picking it up
or whatever.
Well, a couple of weeksbeforehand we had takeout
Chinese, brought it home.
We get our fortune cookies.
I'm always excited for myfortune cookie.
I open it up and there's nofortune in it.
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So I'm like oh, bummer.
So a couple of weeks later, wego out to dinner it was our date
night, or whatever and atdinner we go out to dinner it
was our date night, or whatever.
And the dinner we're talkingabout work.
We were both talking about workand complaining and I caught
myself in the middle of itthinking, okay, this isn't, I'm
out here to enjoy myself.
Why am I talking about work?
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So we're wrapping up our mealand I had a drink and looked at
the bottom of it.
There's a fly in the bottom ofmy drink.
I'm like, okay, so we get ourfortune cookie and no fortune.
So after we're done eating, weran to do an errand and I look,
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we go into the store, look downon the floor and there is a
fortune cookie message laying onthe floor.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
So this wasn't even in the store?
No, it wasn't in the restaurant.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
It was in a totally different place.
Wait, and I'm trying to find itreal quick because off the top
of my head okay, here it is.
It says there will be plenty ofmy head.
Okay, here it is.
It says there will be plenty oftime to work hard, Enjoy
yourself.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
Amen.
So you were just talking aboutand complaining, like you said.
You guys were kind ofcomplaining about work.
Yes, which is why the flyshowed up in your drink and you
know no fortunes.
But nothing's lost because youyou still have a way to like
attract, because you know youcan't attract these signs in
perfect timing, yeah, and thenthere's a random fortune right
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and it's.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
It's such a like dumb little thing, but it means a
lot to me, like if I, if I wereto tell somebody else that they
would think, oh well, you'rereaching.
But I just, I think it's cooland I think it's fun.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
Well, yeah, because that's really great stuff.
You were having a conversationabout work and not being playful
and you find this fortune, noteven at the restaurant that
tells you there's plenty of timeto just have fun, like, just
take it easy.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
basically was the message right.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
Just work is not as important as you want it to be,
and if you make it out to benegatively important, then it
continues to be that way.
So that was perfect timing forjust.
And this is what the other sideis so good at is these little
hints, because they don't tellus what to do, right?
But they do give us littlehints Like think about this,
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what about this?
You know, consider this.
Because we have free will, weget to do this any way we want
to do it.
And you're right, you couldhave taken that fortune and just
tossed it and thought whatever,yeah, it was.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Yeah, it was randomly laying on the ground and I just
happened to look down.
It was right there.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
And that's why you get these signs, because you
know it when you see it.
Therefore, you're not missing.
Everybody's getting these.
It's just that most people aremissing them, right.
Missing everybody's gettingthese.
It's just that most people aremissing them, right.
They're looking that way whenthe sign is that the other way.
So it's not that the other sideis favoring you or me or
anybody else.
It's always there.
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It's available for everybodyjust paying attention yeah, and
it just has become such commonground for me that like I'll
have experiences like that butand I might even say something
to somebody, but then I kind offorget about it.
It's just, I enjoy it, it's funin the moment, but I don't
remember them all.
There are a lot.
That's one reason, but anotherreason because they're not like
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oh wow moments for the most part, because they're they're just
every day, which I stillappreciate.
It doesn't mean it's becomeboring at all.
It's funny because justrecently I was looking online
for a couple days here and thereI went online looking for this
particular air conditioning unitand I hadn't found anything.
(25:59):
Everything was crazy priced,and so one evening I just wasn't
even really thinking about it,but I just stopped for a minute
and I was sitting at my desk andI put my elbows on the desk and
rested my head and I justclosed my eyes and like within a
couple of minutes I had thissort of urge to go on the
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computer and look for somethingtotally different, that I wanted
, a little item that was hadn'tbeen thinking about it lately,
so I went on there and found itand then found the air
conditioner unit at a reallygreat price that I was looking
for.
So you see how it was likethere.
The inspiration wasn't likeokay, here's where the AC unit
is that you're looking for.
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It had a really good deal.
Instead, the inspiration washere, take this breadcrumb, and
now there's your otherbreadcrumb, there's the AC unit.
So it's not even sometimes likea direct line, and that's why
when you get inspirations, justfollow them.
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You know, I was doing ameditation one time and I had
just emailed this company andsaid you know you made a mistake
.
You should have credited methis.
I was sure that they were wrongand I was sure that I was right
and I just did this reallylight meditation and all of a
sudden, in the middle of themeditation, I thought, oh no, it
wasn't them, it was this othercompany.
(27:23):
I had so much going on at thetime and things, packages being
delivered or whatever that I was.
I was totally wrong and I knewit for sure.
So I hurried up and I emailedthem back.
I'm like I am so sorry, it isnot you, it was another company,
you know.
So that was.
It was beautiful, because itwas all in really short timing
and I got corrected Now.
Had I not received thatinspiration, I probably would
(27:47):
have gone back and forth withthem for a little bit until I
finally figured out.
So we didn't need to go throughall that mess.
All I had to do is quicklyemail them back and say oh sorry
, you're off the hook, I waswrong.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
And that's the path of least resistance.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
Yeah, that's exactly it.
And you know, I think Imentioned recently the bumblebee
experience in an episode that Ihad with a client here and
there was a bumblebee in mykitchen.
I'm just talking and all of asudden something catches my
attention above her head andback into my kitchen.
And I was just talking to herabout finding the honey, because
(28:22):
she's going through a breakup,and so we're talking about
finding the honey and I said toher there's a bumblebee in my
kitchen.
And she turned around and shesaid and you were just talking
about honey.
And so I thought this is justso fun.
Like it's not.
I didn't have any windows open,it wasn't time yet for them to
be out, and I walked out to thekitchen and by this time it's
(28:44):
hovering up to the ceiling and Ilooked up and I said hey, like,
hi, thank you.
Like, this is just so fun.
And I said follow me, I'm goingto.
I went over to the sink andopened the window and the screen
and I said I'm going to go backin that room and shut the door
because I didn't want my clientto think a bee was going to come
up behind her.
I said I'm just going to shutthis door.
I said you can stay or you cango.
(29:06):
But thank you, really thank youso much for that, for being
here, because that was justperfect timing.
I hear you all, I know you'reall paying attention and just
you know, and I have so many beebecause I talk about honey all
the time, I have so many honeyand bee experiences, it's just
laughable.
And so there was even one dayafter that I was on my front
(29:27):
porch and this I was watering aplant and this, this fuzzy, and
another thing you know, with theone I saw in my kitchen, it was
just it came close enough to mebefore, like when we got to the
window, that I could see, likeI almost felt, like I could
touch its fur or whatever thatis, and I read later that you
(29:47):
can actually touch them and theydon't get agitated, like you
can pet them, because I saw thisthing about different types of
bees and I thought, oh, maybe Ishould try to pet some bees.
Anyway, I'm on my porch and justwatered this plant and I turned
around and there's this bigbumblebee right in front of my
vision.
It was probably about six orseven inches away from my face
(30:09):
and just hovered there.
Oh wow, and I looked at it andit looked at me and I said hi,
and we just had this beautifulmoment.
And then it went up and over myhead and off it went.
So today I was just looking overa few things, so I'd be
prepared for our talk tonight,and I went out to the front
(30:32):
porch.
I was going to water I have aplant right now I only have two
plants, I'm just haven't gottenall my summer plants yet Went
out to the front porch to waterone and there was this honeybee
not a bumblebee and there wasthis honeybee not a bumblebee
but a honeybee that came rightup like my chest area and just
hovered there, just hoveredthere, and I thought this is
(30:52):
just so fun and so I said hi toit and everything, and then away
it goes, the other plant I haveout back.
So I came out through my officeto the back and just as I
opened the door to come out,this dove had been sitting on
the ground, by the way wentflying away and I thought, well,
there's a dove.
And I was just thinking aboutthe dove because I was looking
(31:14):
at the, you know the littlenotes for tonight.
And I thought it's just.
It seems random because I dofeed the birds, so I do get
doves around here, but one dovejust right there in that moment,
just when I happened to openthe door.
It's just beautiful timing.
I think if people just givethis credit more often, they'll
(31:36):
not only have more of theseexperiences, but they'll feel
the union of all of us in thistogether.
Because, I mean, was the dovelike a spirit that came in?
No, they influenced the dove.
The synchronistic motion of lifejust brings the bee to your
face or into your kitchen, youknow when it's just a fun,
(31:58):
because they're willing, right,they're willing to participate
and have fun.
So I just I really got a kickout of that because it was just
so.
But and the funny thing was, Iwasn't even thinking about
watering the plants.
I was, you know, here lookingat notes and doing things like
that and I thought, oh, Ihaven't watered the plants yet
and I got up and went and didthose two things and had those
(32:20):
two experiences.
So the timing and all that, youcould see how well tied
together all of that was.
Why did I get the inspirationright then?
Why was there a honeybee?
Of course there are other beesaround but not right in front of
me, like coming right up infront of my chest and just
staying there.
And I didn't.
I wasn't afraid of it, so itdidn't have any reason to fly
(32:42):
away.
And with honeybees I think it'shoneybe I wasn't afraid of it,
so it didn't have any reason tofly away, and I.
And then with honeybees I thinkit's honeybees, no, maybe it's
yeah.
Honeybees.
I think you can agitate them,but I think it's wasps.
Yeah, wasps are scary, yeah,yeah, you can really tick them
off, I guess.
But you know, and with the doveout back, I thought, no, that's
just cute, because I was justso it's.
(33:03):
I love the timing of this andyou know, like I said, if we can
just be playful about it, don'ttry to make it happen.
Give it credit when you do seeit.
Then you'll not only have theexperiences more often, but
you'll feel the connection.
You'll feel it won't be so airyfairy to say to a bumblebee hey
hi, thanks a lot, like, thanksfor the like, thanks for being
(33:25):
here.
Like that was just perfecttiming.
It won't seem so weird to dothat, because you really get it
at that point.
Like even the insects were allin this together and everything
is so well synchronized that wecan have a lot of fun if we want
to, you know.
And two, like there was a time,just like this past, the end of
(33:46):
this past winter, when myson-in-law came home from work
one day and he went into theirhouse and he realized it was
cold and so he went, checked thefurnace and it was not working.
So he calls his wife, who waswith me, and her kids or their
kids, and they're going oh no,this can't, we can't do this
right now, we can't get a newfurnace right now.
Oh, you know, and I said I justhope just hold on.
(34:10):
You don't even know reallywhat's going on yet.
So he called a family memberwho knows stuff like that,
walked him through it.
An hour later $20 for a part.
They had heat again.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
And I said to both of them I said now, do you see
what I mean?
You don't look at the fact thatyou know.
Oh, I had to stop and do thisbecause he wasn't planning on
doing anything like that.
When he got home from work hehad other things on his mind and
I said so.
It took an hour, it happened ona warmer day, it wasn't snowing
, it wasn't really really cold,it was still winter, but it was.
(34:49):
You could survive without heatif you had to.
It was a Friday, right, itwasn't like a work night and you
had the whole weekend.
If you had to deal with it asthe kids weren't home, it cost
$20 to fix it.
You had heat in an hour.
You had access to somebodyright away, instantly who could
walk you through it and help youwith this for free.
(35:10):
And he got educated on morefurnace stuff while they were
doing that, because life happens.
I mean, you know furnaces stopworking sometimes and you know
things go screwy as far as we'reconcerned, but nothing's really
ever screwy, and when we justrealize that things don't have
to be tragic like there had,there was a time in the past
(35:34):
where they lost heat, where itwasn't so convenient, and I
think they're picking up on thisenough now that their timing is
getting better.
Right, that ease of look hey,hey, it's Friday, you have
plenty of time to deal with this.
You have somebody who can helpyou through it, and so that's
why the ease comes in then.
(35:54):
And that's what I mean bylooking for the honey, because
their knee jerk reaction wasreaction was oh crap, yeah, this
isn't going to be good.
It's still winter technically,so we have to have heat and we
just don't want it.
This is not a good time forthat expense, right?
So even if we have thatknee-jerk reaction and we go
(36:20):
negative into something, you canalways put the brakes on and
say to yourself wait a minutewhere's the honey?
Where's the good stuff here?
Could this really work out forme?
Does it seem bad, and will itcontinue to be bad if I don't
(36:42):
clean this up real quick inmyself, because we can take
something that's not really thatbad and turn it into something
a whole lot worse just becausewe grind away at it, you know
you would have kept thinking I'mscrewed, we're screwed, this
isn't going to be good.
It would have been a 20 part andsomething else with it that was
more expensive or more timeconsuming or something right,
you know.
So it's.
(37:02):
The signs are sometimes very inyour face and sometimes they're
so subtle that they're a lot oftimes they're very subtle that
they're easy for most people tomiss, and I'm sure you and I
still miss some.
Oh, I'm sure I do.
There are signs and there aredefinitely times where I get the
(37:23):
hit and I override it and thenI know right away you got the
hit, you didn't follow it.
That's on you and I'm notblaming myself and beating
myself up'm just saying that'show we learn.
That's how we learn.
There was a time where I was, mykids were away and I was gonna
(37:45):
just watch a movie by myself,get all cozied up in the living
room and enjoy my time, and asI'm leaving the kitchen, I got
the hit to pick up my phone andtake it with me.
And I did not.
And I got all cozied in, gotthe movie started and the phone
rang and since my kids weren'thome, I thought I'd have to
answer that phone.
(38:06):
And that's another.
You just got.
That's on me.
You told me to get the phone.
You gave me the sign, thelittle inspiration to get the
phone, and I didn't.
So is it a big deal?
No, but do you see how likeit's?
It's there to make your lifemore smooth, more easy, all the
time.
Speaker 2 (38:27):
I had one today.
I work from home and I have anhour for lunch and I had planned
on running out for lunch to thegrocery store because there
were a few things that I needed,but I really did not feel like
going.
For whatever reason, I justdidn't want to do it, but I
forced myself to go.
(38:48):
I had a list in front of me.
I still forgot like a majoritem on the list and I I'm
convinced it's because it.
It wasn't my time to go to thestore.
I should have waited untileither after the podcast tonight
or tomorrow.
Even it might've been a betteroutcome, but it was just.
(39:10):
It was one of those thingswhere a lot, of, a lot of
roadblocks on my way there, likeI hit every light, lots of
traffic, that sort of thing,because that's just.
That was where I was at at thattime.
I think if I had waited itwould have been better.
Yeah, and you know when youfind yourself in that it would
have been better.
Speaker 1 (39:31):
Yeah, and you know, when you find yourself in that,
it's because we are we'regetting too, I don't know, doing
it ourselves.
We're in the mode of doing itourselves and trying to get
everything done and fit thingsin or whatever, and so, but when
you find yourself in that sortof experience where you're
thinking, okay, this is gettingmessy, I probably should have
(39:53):
done this in different timing,you can autocorrect by saying to
yourself, okay, maybe I misseda hit, maybe I got a sign and I
didn't take it.
But here I am right now.
How do I want it to go fromhere?
Right, I want this to be easy,like if I forget a shopping list
and I'm all about lists I havelists you think you know, being
(40:15):
intuitive, you wouldn't needlists.
It's just something I do.
Speaker 2 (40:18):
I do.
Speaker 1 (40:19):
So, but if I but I don't worry about it, though,
because if I get to a store andI think, oh, I don't have my
list or I don't have my phone, Ido that too.
I'll leave without my phone andI think, oh, you know what, I
spent like a good part of mylife without a cell phone and I
(40:39):
was just okay.
I was okay, I'll be fine.
And then I'll think to myself Idon't have that list, but all of
creation knows what's on thelist, you know, and then I end
usually end up finding things Iforgot to put on the list too.
Speaker 2 (40:46):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (40:47):
Yeah, we can get easy about it and go okay, yep, I'm,
I'm running into someroadblocks here.
I'm running into some friction.
I'm just going to cool my jetsand hit the reset button.
Everything's easy from here onout.
You know, this can be better,because we do have the option to
keep sort of driving off theside of the road or steering
(41:10):
ourselves back onto the road.
You know, we can keep thinking,oh man, this isn't going to be
good.
Why do I do this?
This is not working out for me.
Now I'm going to be late.
We can keep doing that andwe'll prove that right.
But there's another versionthat's available too.
There are multiple versionsavailable.
Speaker 2 (41:28):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (41:29):
So we can say, all right, all right, yep, I was
going off track, I was totallygoing off the side of the road
there.
But I'm good, this, this, I'mhitting that reset button.
And then you start getting yoursigns again.
And then you, you just learn tolaugh at yourself.
When you got, when you realizeafter the sign that you got the
sign, you know like you got itand you sort of overwrote it or
(41:52):
whatever yes didn't regard it.
And then then you know like oh,that's right, I did, I should
have.
Oh, you learn to laugh at thatand say it doesn't matter, it's
okay, because everything stillworks out.
There's always another sign,there's always another ease
(42:13):
available.
It's nice to share stories likethis because it helps us all
relate and realize that it doeshappen to us.
It's not just other people thatget signs or that recognize
divine timing.
Divine timing is alwayshappening.
But can we have even bettertiming?
(42:36):
Yeah, because like divinetiming of yeah, maybe I should
have gone later, but here I amnow and I don't have my list,
that's still divine timing, butit's divine timing according to
where you're at right now.
It's like the universe can onlywork with where you're at right
now.
It's like the universe can onlywork with where you're at right
now.
And if you're all balled up,there's going to be divine
(42:56):
timing in there and you'llprobably.
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (43:01):
Miss it.
Speaker 1 (43:02):
Or something will happen.
You know what I mean.
This is when we hit the potholeand our car goes out of
alignment, right, you know,could it have?
Could we have gone, have gonearound, could we have gone a
different route?
Yeah, but we're so balled upthat divine timing is now
synchronizing in like the leftlane.
For anybody that knows my leftlane, right lane analogy, you
(43:23):
know, the divine timing issynchronizing up in the lane,
with the potholes and theroadkill and all the stuff you
don't want exactly, perfectlytimed.
People say, well, what are thechances, right, that I wouldn't
have seen that and the roadkilland all the stuff you don't want
Exactly, perfectly timed?
People say, well, what are thechances, right, that I wouldn't
have seen that pothole and hitit that hard?
Or what are the chances?
that, that car would have pulledout right into my bumper.
Well, the chances were indivine timing, and it's not a
(43:45):
bad thing.
It's good information and ifyou pay attention, you might
meet the love of your life atthat little accident.
Or you might have aninspiration for something
totally unrelated because ofthat incident.
That pays off later Right.
Even though we might havesynced up in divine timing to
(44:05):
the unwanted, there's stillhoney in it.
You can't get away from thesweetness of life.
it's in everything, even thestuff that we want to call bad
or traumatic or right crazy yeah, and I mean I I tend to go back
and I think, okay, well, thisdidn't work out now, but maybe
(44:27):
something better is going tohappen later, and you know and
really that's an even morecorrect way to say that it's
just because this didn't workout the way I thought it would
or the way I wanted it to,Doesn't mean that it wasn't
divine timing and doesn't meanthat I can't get a better
version.
Right, you know?
Because we we oftentimes haveour mind made up about the way
(44:50):
something should work out.
Speaker 2 (44:51):
Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1 (44:51):
Because we oftentimes have our mind made up about the
way something should work out,and when it doesn't, we think
something's gone wrong, insteadof just saying, well, okay,
that's not the way I thought itwas going to go, but how's this
working out for me?
How is this working out for me?
Because everything is so.
This is too, and that's whythis is so fun to know, because
(45:12):
it's so freeing, you know, andit's not like with me knowing
this and teaching this, it's notlike my life doesn't suck.
Sometimes I live in this worldof contrast.
I get ticked off sometimes, youknow, not for long.
Speaker 2 (45:26):
Right.
Speaker 1 (45:27):
I run into stressors, I run into drama.
You know I have a family.
Everybody that has a family hassome kind of drama somewhere
Right.
So you know, there's stuff,there's stuff and it's OK.
And that's why I always sayjust because I know, this does
not mean I like live a perfectlife that you know people should
(45:49):
aspire to.
I live a human life, and that'sthe point I'm trying to make.
Is that perfect means perfectlyimperfect.
It means unfolding, evolving,going through the motions here
and just seeing how you do withit and not being too hard on
(46:10):
yourself for any reason.
Yeah, and that was a hard onefor me because I have a tendency
to be too hard on myself, and alot of people do.
I still watch myself with that.
I'm a lot better at it than Iwas, you know, for the better
part of my life.
It's just got better and betterand better and better over time
, but it's still something thatI'm aware of.
It's not?
(46:30):
got better and better and betterand better over time, but it's
still something that I'm awareof.
It's not something I worryabout, it's not something that I
have to manage or battle oranything like that.
It's just something I'm aware of.
I know that I have a tendencyto be hard on myself and I know
that I most likely will do itagain.
But I also know that I cancatch myself and then undo it
and then I can laugh at it,because then I can say, okay,
that's just me being human,whatever.
(46:53):
Yeah, right, it's all right.
This has been a lot of fun andI know that this has got to be
helpful for anybody that'sthinking where are my signs?
Or I don't see divine timing.
Speaker 2 (47:07):
They're there.
Speaker 1 (47:08):
Yeah.
Or even like I see signs, butis that really what they are?
Or back to the beginning of ourconversation.
Like you said, is this okay?
Like am I upsetting God in anyway?
Or am I upsetting?
First of all, I wouldn't reallycare too much about what other
people think, Because when youdo that, now your button's out
there to be pushed Right, If yourealize.
(47:30):
Okay, everybody has theiropinions, Everybody's come to
their own conclusions.
They may or may not match mine.
I'm not saying there's a wrong,but I know mine feel right to
me and that's all that I reallyneed to be giving my attention
to and then follow what feelsgood to you.
Speaker 2 (47:45):
Yeah, and I think that's one of one of my bigger
problems is and I'm definitely alot better than I used to be is
worrying what other people aregoing to think.
Speaker 1 (47:58):
That's one I had to get over too, yeah, and it's
still one I have to be aware of.
You know, like I don't have tomanage it, I'm not fighting it,
but it is something to be awareof.
Like, okay, I could, and don'town it, like I have the tendency
to be hard on myself or I havethe tendency to care too much
about it.
Don't own it anymore.
Just say to yourself I may betoo sensitive at some point.
(48:21):
I may take myself seriously, orI may take life seriously.
I may be hard on myself.
I may not be ever again.
I'm just paying attention.
So you see the difference inthat, because anytime we own
something like, we labelourselves.
That's why I don't likediagnoses and any kind of labels
(48:42):
that people put on themselves,like when people say like I
suffer from depression, well,good luck with that.
People say like I suffer fromdepression, well, good luck with
that.
And not to be sarcastic, butreally honestly, good luck with
that, because that's going to berough If you, if you feel you
(49:02):
suffer from depression or I'm anaddict, well, there you are.
Then.
Speaker 2 (49:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (49:09):
But if you say to yourself, I have, I've taken
drugs and I might, I might takethem again, I don't know.
I just know right now I'm not.
Or I know right now I'm stoned,I'm completely stoned right now
.
Here I am, this is where I'm atand I'm not going to fight it,
because when I fight it I drawit in more Right.
(49:33):
When we make our peace with whowe are, where we're at, what
we're doing, and love ourselvesthe way Source loves us, no
matter what we're up to, even ifwe're being mean to somebody,
when we can love ourselves andother people from that vantage
point, life gets so much easier.
You know, you learn not to behard on yourself.
(49:54):
You learn that nobody's judgingyou.
That's another thing religionshave taught.
Right, you're being judged.
Yeah, well, okay.
So now we're under a microscope.
Whether we're asleep or awakeor having sex or, you know,
shopping or whatever it is we'redoing, we're under a microscope
(50:15):
.
It with that thought, that'shard.
Yeah, I mean, if you think thatbeing human is being full of
sin and sin is just ignorance,that's all it is.
You just don't know.
So if we think that we're bornwith bad stuff and that we're
(50:37):
going to do bad stuff, but wehave to try not to.
We have to try not to Don't doit.
Don't do it.
But you know it's in you, butdon't do it.
Well, that's impossible, right,right, that doesn't even make
any sense, you know, it's likesomebody saying you're
heterosexual, right, yes, yes,do you?
(50:58):
If you don't mind me asking youdon't have to answer.
So if I said to you okay, well,mary, you know what it's really
important that you be gay, likeit's, you just have to be,
because that's what everybodysays and there's a book that
says that.
So you have to be gay now.
Could you do that?
No, right, it's just, it's notin you.
Just like, if I say to somebodywho's gay well, sorry, you know
what.
You have to turn that, switchoff.
Speaker 2 (51:16):
Right.
Speaker 1 (51:17):
Turn your straight switch on.
Speaker 2 (51:18):
Yeah, it doesn't work like that, no.
Speaker 1 (51:21):
Right.
And so I think when werecognize that you know we are,
we're not controlled, we don'thave to be away because somebody
else says we have to be thatway, you know, then we're full
of more ease.
We see our signs, we see ourdivine timing.
Life gets easier Now.
You're not around people who aregoing to push your buttons
(51:43):
because your buttons aren't outthere to be pushed, right, and
that's why you can see somepeople who are living a certain
lifestyle and are getting a lotof backlash about it, and you
can see other people that areliving that same lifestyle very
happily.
They're just having a good time.
Same thing.
It's just they're notattracting the people that make
(52:05):
fun of it or don't like it orcondemn it because they've made
some kind of peace with it, orthey just don't care what other
people think.
Right, you know, when we canfind that ease, that's where the
signs are, that's where therecognition of divine timing is,
because otherwise we areconfused or flustered or caught
(52:27):
up or whatever, and you're justnot going to see them as much,
you're not going to get thesweetest ones.
Then Right, for the most partright, there's always a crack of
least resistance somewhere witheverybody from time to time.
But you know, once you find yourease with things generally
across the board, then you'rejust.
You can't help but be moreavailable.
(52:48):
Just you can't help but be moreavailable to that light energy
that is playful and brings thedoves and the bees and the moses
thing and the lights on lightsoff.
You know it's just it's fun itis it is.
Thank you for joining me againand talking about such a fun
topic.
Well, thank you for having me.
(53:10):
Absolutely.
I really appreciate it.
So for everyone out there, Ihave some stuff that's running
some one course, especiallyright now that's going to start
the end of this month, tarotMade Easy, which is an 11 week
course.
You can email me at Rebecca atmysticaltruthscom.
Although this might come out,this episode might come out late
(53:30):
, to the end of May of 2024.
But if there are any other, Ican run intuition development
again if anybody wants it.
So just let me know.
I'm not here to sell youanything, but I am definitely
going to let you know what's upand you can find me at mystical
truthscom.
Thank you.
Welcome to the Mystical Truths Podcast.
This is Rebecca and I'm reallyglad you're here.
Let's unlock your world.
For a long time now, one of myfavorite sayings has been isn't
fun the best thing to have andinterestingly it's becoming a
thing on this show lately forSource or those in spirit to
(00:28):
chime in during and now after arecording, and it's so fun.
Prior to the episode you'reabout to hear, I had a lot going
on in my personal life.
I even had to reschedule ourrecord date, which was a first
but fine.
Then the recording date came.
Mary and I had a greatconversation and then later that
(00:49):
evening, as I went to transferthe two track recording to my
editing software, it wouldn'twork.
The test run that we did aboutfour weeks before kept
presenting over the current one,which made no sense at all
since they're two separate dates, two separate recordings I had
(01:09):
recorded in between them onother dates.
They had no digital or appconnection to each other
whatsoever.
However, after several attemptsto get the test run out of the
way, I decided just to delete it, but somehow it deleted both
the test run and the episodethat we had just recorded.
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They were both gone Now.
Keep in mind I'm not new tothis right, but it made no
logical sense.
I double-checked the recordingapp, the cloud, the editing
software, just to see if maybe,perhaps it transferred over like
it should have.
But it usually doesn't.
Both were gone from all of it.
(01:52):
The test run was gone, theepisode was gone.
I started researching how do youundo this and what I found was
you don't.
Once they're deleted, they'regone.
And I thought how could this beLike?
Why I don't have time for this?
And then I thought of all thedon'ts.
I thought you know, I don'tlike this.
(02:12):
I don't want to tell my gueststhat we have to do the whole
thing over again.
I don't want to take time forthat.
I don't want any more extra inmy already extra month and I
don't want a high maintenancepodcast.
And I thought you know I couldbe doing other things.
And that's when I had thethought step away, stay neutral.
(02:39):
This must have some kind ofhoney in it, although I'll admit
, at the moment I didn't want tolook for any and I knew it had
to be there, but I wasn't in themood to look for it.
That's all right.
And at that point I had aconversation with Spirit.
I said you know, all right,like I'm not sure what's going
on right now, but there areother things that I could be
doing.
This podcast does take a lot oftime.
I enjoy it.
I'm hoping other people do too.
So if this is something thatyou recommend I keep moving
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forward with, I want an obvioussign.
After all, this particularepisode is about signs.
So no little sign will do, andno sign to me will mean step
away completely.
So I'm going to bed.
You let me know and I let it goas best I could.
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The next day I did my best tostay neutral.
That evening, after checkingemail and such, I had the
thought to log on to therecording app.
I thought okay, I'm not reallysure why, but all right.
And initially it was exactlylike it was before.
In the app.
The test run said one take zerorecordings.
The cloud for the test run zerorecordings.
(03:47):
I looked at the episode Samething.
The app said one take zerorecordings.
The cloud said one take tworecordings Hers and mine.
I looked at it again and Ithought what Wait?
I checked this multiple timesthe day before and it doesn't
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take a day for a recording to gointo the cloud, so it wasn't a
timing issue and the test runwas still zero and zero.
It was completely gone from theapp and the cloud.
So all were deleted the daybefore and now now only one was
available and it was in thecloud and it had both of our
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recordings in it.
So, needless to say, I reallyappreciated the sign and the
divine timing.
So I hurried up and Idownloaded those two tracks onto
my computer and got them overto the editing software and then
, while I was editing, I cameacross several like clicks and
skips, like right in the middleof a word, just skips in the
(04:51):
track.
So I edited most of it out asbest I can.
You're still going to hear some.
There's even a little thing Iwas saying at one point.
That's kind of garbled, but Ihad to leave it in.
So I'm thinking, apparently,when spirit is returning a
recording from the spiritualcloud, it causes a few hiccups,
I don't know.
But I'm okay with that and I'mvery impressed that a talk about
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spiritual signs and divinetiming resulted in seemingly
impossible proof that we are notdoing this life alone.
And if you're enjoying thispodcast, thank those in spirit
for participating and greenlighting it.
So now on with the show.
So in this episode I have Maryback with me.
(05:35):
You might remember Mary fromthe episode titled Staying
Positive in a Sea of NegativePeople.
So we had a nice time in thatdiscussion and we got talking
about spiritual signs and divinetiming and how things just sort
of work out and how interestingit is.
And then Mary had an experiencethat she shared with me and
(05:56):
then we got the more we got totalking I said we should just do
an episode on this.
So welcome back, mary.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Hi, thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
You're welcome.
So tell us about the first,tell us about the experience you
had right around Easter Ithought that was really
interesting.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
So I was making dinner and I usually have the TV
running in the background justfor a little bit of noise.
I don't watch the news oranything like that, so I look
for positive things.
And I had on it's called theStory Channel and they were
running biographies and thebiography was about Moses and
(06:37):
I'm half listening and they'retalking about everything that
happened to him.
As I'm sure many people know,he had a very hard life and
basically he was betrayed by hisbrother.
His mother had to give him upso he wouldn't be killed when he
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was a baby and you know, justhorrible, just horrible stuff
and just horrible, just horriblestuff.
And I'm thinking at the time,wow, the Bible is full of some
really messed up stuff.
And I grew up Catholic and Ikeep thinking things like well,
(07:21):
it ends up, moses is freeing theslaves, helping to free the
slaves, and can see the promisedland, but he dies before he
reaches it.
And I think, well, god can't bethat mean.
Like, you know, this is theBible and it's all up for
(07:44):
interpretation and men wrote it.
And you know this is the Bibleand it's all up for
interpretation and men wrote it.
And you know I'm thinking allthis and you know, at the same
time, I have so many thoughtsgoing through my head.
I'm making dinner and I'mtrying to concentrate on dinner,
but I still have all thesethoughts and I started thinking
about the podcast that we did,thinking, well, did I do the
(08:06):
right thing?
All of a sudden, the lights goout in my house.
I'm making this dinner and it'slike I have all I have all
electric, like my stove iselectric and it's a time
sensitive thing that I wasworking on.
It was kind of a complicateddinner and I walk away from the
stove and I say all right,universe, what are you trying to
(08:29):
tell me?
Just then, the lights came onNice, the TV also came back on,
and the TV never comes on byitself after a power outage.
It's a real finicky TV, but itcame right back on and they
start talking about MaryMagdalene.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
And I'm thinking well , Mary.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
So I thought it was, I thought it was interesting and
I took it as my sign that itwas OK to do what I did and and
it's kind of my path, kind oflike Moses had his path.
He was supposed to help freethe slaves and Moses, in some
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ways, like me, he just wanted tolive a quiet, peaceful life
under the radar, which is whatthat's what I do.
I try to stay under the radarfor the most part, so being on a
podcast like this is a big dealfor me.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
Yeah, because what you're really saying is is it
okay that I talk about thesespiritual things and that I'm
not so biblical in my approach?
Am I right?
Right?
Yep, absolutely, and that showsyou the ease we're being paid
attention to.
You know, you were reallyquestioning, you were really
(09:52):
wondering and pondering likewhat has been written and what's
actually true.
You know, like you said, youwere raised Catholic, so is it a
bad thing to be talking aboutlife in a spiritual way instead
of the traditional religious way?
I don't think it's goingagainst anything, but you got.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
you got your sign yeah, and I don't believe that
there's anything wrong with iteither.
It's just sometimes it's niceto have reassurance.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
Yeah, especially when you know you're in a world
where you feel like you have tohide this.
You know that you can have yourspiritual thoughts and your
sort of religious awakenings andthat it'd be okay.
Because will you get pressurefrom other people, like if you
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went and told everybody you knowthat you question some of the
Bible and you're realizing thatthere are some spiritual
approaches and understandingsthat really make good sense to
you?
So if that happens, if you justout yourself, what would that
look like?
And it's just something thatyou don't want to do or you
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haven't wanted to do.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Right.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
Because it's a personal thing.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Right, and you know, being raised Catholic, I still
know a lot of Catholics and theywould think oh my you.
You know this is reallyhorrible.
And the ones that don't believein in catholicism or walked
away from it would think I'mnuts well, maybe not all of them
(11:33):
.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
They may be closeted, like you you know, and I,
honestly, I have had nuns cometo see me over the years.
I've had a few priests come tosee me.
I've had so so many Catholics,so many Catholics over the years
, and a lot of them arerecovering Catholics.
Not all of them, but really allof them have these same
(11:53):
questions, and I had them when Iwas young too.
I wasn't raised Catholic, but Iwent to Catholic church with my
friends.
I went to other churches.
We were Presbyterian.
I went to other churches, wewere Presbyterian, and you know
I would listen and it justdidn't.
The basis of it sounded great,but all the other stuff just
didn't add up.
It just didn't make sense.
(12:15):
And the more you start toreally weed through it, the more
.
And then you look at otherreligions.
Right, you start to well, ifthat's what they believe, and
then this is what they believeover there, and then they over
there believe somethingdifferent again.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
They all right well, how, how?
Speaker 1 (12:33):
can they all be wrong ?
Yeah, they can't all be right,they can't all be wrong.
Maybe they are all wrong, butthey still have that foundation
that seems to be common ground.
But it's what people have donewith it since then, or, or you
know, out of that that hasbecome a whole mishmash of
control and fear and a lot ofstuff.
(12:55):
That's very uncomfortable and,you know, I remember people
saying you know this, some ofthe things that they learned
very young in their churchesterrified them.
I mean, who wouldn't?
I mean, I remember when I wasyoung learning about, you know,
devil and hell and all that, andI thought, oh, that is like
(13:17):
that can freak you out.
And I thought, is that reallywhat's going on here?
Because it just it.
Honestly, even as a a kid, itdid not make sense, and that's
that inner truth radar.
So, even though it didn't makesense to me, I still thought,
well, yeah, but what if I'mwrong?
that's actually true you know,how do you, how do you live on
(13:40):
this planet and not go to hell?
then how right because you'regonna do something, and and I
don't believe that we can dosome things that people call bad
, and then just tell somebodyand do a couple things and then
okay, now we're off the hook.
You know, that didn't makesense either, and it didn't make
(14:02):
sense to me that there was agod who would hurt people or
would damn people or was lesspowerful than a devil thing.
Right, it did not have.
It made any sense, and so themore I question, the more I, you
know, and that's why I say topeople just pay attention to how
it feels at your core, becauseeverything I've studied and
(14:27):
learned spiritually, then I'monly talking about myself,
because there are some spiritualthings out there that'll freak
people out too, because peoplehave twisted things in this
place too, but the things thathave made sense to me have all
been about love, have all beenabout all the good stuff that we
want to talk about.
(14:47):
Sure, I mean, we live in thisworld of contrast.
There are hard times, but I'vecome to understand that there's
good stuff in the hard times too.
They don't have to be as hardas we make them, and that's what
I think we're going through nowis more and more people are
going.
Well, hold on, hold on, wait aminute.
I want to feel good.
(15:08):
I don't want to feel powerlesseither.
Right are fear-based and arecontrol-based.
Now, does that mean we have tobe afraid of any of it or take
it off the planet?
(15:28):
No, everything has its purposehere.
It's here for whoever it's herefor.
So if Catholicism or whateverelse makes sense to somebody, it
feels good to them, then it's amatch for them.
Where they're at right now intheir evolution, that's a
beautiful thing.
For them.
Where they're at right now intheir evolution, that's a
beautiful thing.
But there are more and morepeople, more and more souls, I
(15:51):
should say, coming in on thetails of all of us who've been
saying what Hold on now.
And so as we expand and this istrue with everything, not just
spiritual beliefs, but as weexpand the ones that come in
after us are coming in at thatlevel, just like kids are coming
in tech savvy now.
You know they're tech ready.
There are souls coming in nowgoing wait.
(16:14):
We're not going to believe that.
We're not going to believe thatyou can't just tell us that
there's, like this, hell and adevil, and if you don't do what
you say, then we're doomed foreternity, or something like that
.
Right you know, and so I startedat a young age.
You might have.
You know, I think a lot ofpeople today, the younger people
that are coming in, arestarting very young with, and
(16:37):
that's why I think we see a dropin attendance at churches.
It's not because there's badthings happening and the devil's
getting control over it, it'snot.
It's not that it's not becausethere's bad things happening and
the devil's getting controlover it.
It's not that.
It's just that there's morerecognition of love and the
allowance of that.
The more we turn over here, theold ones die off, the new ones
come in.
The old ones die off, the newones come in.
(16:58):
It gets better and better.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
Right, we're expanding.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
Yeah, we're expanding .
There are things about thehistory of the people on this
planet that are brutal.
There still is today.
We live in a world of contrast,but where are we going with it?
Where are we taking it fromhere?
We're getting better and better.
I mean, we're not dragging eachother around by the hair
anymore.
We may have never done that.
(17:23):
It may be something peoplethink was that, but we're not
dragging each other around bythe hair anymore.
We may have never done that.
It may be something peoplethink was that, but we're not.
You know clubbing each other,and you know, at a poker game,
we just shoot somebody and go onwith the poker game.
Right, you know we are gettingbetter.
You know we talk openly aboutabuse and things like that now,
so we're definitely makingmotion in the right direction.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
I mean that.
I mean that is relatively newto me.
I mean I don't remember as akid people being so open about
abuse or you know anything likelike it is now.
It's completely different.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
Yeah, I totally agree , because when I was young,
there was some stuff in myfamily and with me personally
and you knew not to talk aboutit.
Nobody had to tell you.
You just knew not to talk aboutit and not to tell anybody
about it.
And so when people like Oprahcame along I think Phil Donahue
was another one, probably it wasvery open.
You know, things like that juststarted creeping in because
(18:20):
more of us were coming in sayingthis we can't keep doing it
like this, it's too we're, we'removing past this.
Just as an example, men don'thave sex with the children
because the woman, the wife,doesn't want to have sex anymore
, or whatever the case may be.
So they started having it withthe girls or the, the whatever's
.
Um, we, you know, I'm sure someof that still goes on.
(18:45):
Of course, it does but we'regetting a lot better at it.
So it's nice to see theexpansion, but you know, back to
signs, you know so divinetiming too, because not only are
you seeing those signs, but inperfect timing Right, that's
what's so awesome about it.
(19:05):
You know that the timing isimpeccable and you know it's
funny, because go ahead and talkabout the, the pictures that
you sent me, because there'ssomething I want to add that
happened today, that sort ofties in with those.
So go ahead and tell us aboutthose.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
The first picture was of two morning doves that I
sent you.
And now where I live, I mean wehear birds, we see them fly by,
but they do not approach ourdeck or anything like that.
We're not allowed to feed thembecause I live in an HOA and
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they're just you'll get fined orwhatever.
So we don't feed the birds, andso they don't.
They don't hang out at my oldplace they used to hang out all
the time cause I was alwaysfeeding them.
So well, I have to backtrack alittle bit.
The night before, um, my sonhad called me late in the
(20:05):
evening and was asking about amovie that we were watching when
we would watch when he was akid, and I thought it was kind
of weird or whatever.
Well, he had been having someissues health issues
relationship issues.
And the thought occurred to merelationship issues.
And the thought occurred to mewell, they got back together.
(20:26):
And then I just put it out ofmy head.
Well then the next morning myhusband was standing at the
patio door and he looks out andhe says, come here, look,
there's two birds out here.
And I, I look and they're just,they're hanging out on the deck
, railing like nothing.
My cat's sitting there staringat them and it's two morning
(20:50):
doves.
And I thought, wow, this isreally cool.
You know, this doesn't happen,this never happens here.
And later on in the day I gotthe call Well, we're back
together.
So I, I took that, as you know,that that sign that morning,
(21:11):
yeah, was you know the universeletting me know that he's he's
happy and back together.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
So yeah, because you had the intuition.
Yeah, you just sort of had thatthought, which oftentimes is
inspired by the other side, andthen there's your backup.
Yeah, like it's just becauseit's fun.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
That's why this happens because it's fun.
So what was the other picture?
Speaker 2 (21:33):
The other one.
So my husband and I, we loveChinese food.
We're always, you know, goingout for Chinese or picking it up
or whatever.
Well, a couple of weeksbeforehand we had takeout
Chinese, brought it home.
We get our fortune cookies.
I'm always excited for myfortune cookie.
I open it up and there's nofortune in it.
(21:55):
So I'm like oh, bummer.
So a couple of weeks later, wego out to dinner it was our date
night, or whatever and atdinner we go out to dinner it
was our date night, or whatever.
And the dinner we're talkingabout work.
We were both talking about workand complaining and I caught
myself in the middle of itthinking, okay, this isn't, I'm
out here to enjoy myself.
Why am I talking about work?
(22:16):
So we're wrapping up our mealand I had a drink and looked at
the bottom of it.
There's a fly in the bottom ofmy drink.
I'm like, okay, so we get ourfortune cookie and no fortune.
So after we're done eating, weran to do an errand and I look,
(22:41):
we go into the store, look downon the floor and there is a
fortune cookie message laying onthe floor.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
So this wasn't even in the store?
No, it wasn't in the restaurant.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
It was in a totally different place.
Wait, and I'm trying to find itreal quick because off the top
of my head okay, here it is.
It says there will be plenty ofmy head.
Okay, here it is.
It says there will be plenty oftime to work hard, Enjoy
yourself.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
Amen.
So you were just talking aboutand complaining, like you said.
You guys were kind ofcomplaining about work.
Yes, which is why the flyshowed up in your drink and you
know no fortunes.
But nothing's lost because youyou still have a way to like
attract, because you know youcan't attract these signs in
perfect timing, yeah, and thenthere's a random fortune right
(23:33):
and it's.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
It's such a like dumb little thing, but it means a
lot to me, like if I, if I wereto tell somebody else that they
would think, oh well, you'rereaching.
But I just, I think it's cooland I think it's fun.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
Well, yeah, because that's really great stuff.
You were having a conversationabout work and not being playful
and you find this fortune, noteven at the restaurant that
tells you there's plenty of timeto just have fun, like, just
take it easy.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
basically was the message right.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
Just work is not as important as you want it to be,
and if you make it out to benegatively important, then it
continues to be that way.
So that was perfect timing forjust.
And this is what the other sideis so good at is these little
hints, because they don't tellus what to do, right?
But they do give us littlehints Like think about this,
(24:31):
what about this?
You know, consider this.
Because we have free will, weget to do this any way we want
to do it.
And you're right, you couldhave taken that fortune and just
tossed it and thought whatever,yeah, it was.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Yeah, it was randomly laying on the ground and I just
happened to look down.
It was right there.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
And that's why you get these signs, because you
know it when you see it.
Therefore, you're not missing.
Everybody's getting these.
It's just that most people aremissing them, right.
Missing everybody's gettingthese.
It's just that most people aremissing them, right.
They're looking that way whenthe sign is that the other way.
So it's not that the other sideis favoring you or me or
anybody else.
It's always there.
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It's available for everybodyjust paying attention yeah, and
it just has become such commonground for me that like I'll
have experiences like that butand I might even say something
to somebody, but then I kind offorget about it.
It's just, I enjoy it, it's funin the moment, but I don't
remember them all.
There are a lot.
That's one reason, but anotherreason because they're not like
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oh wow moments for the most part, because they're they're just
every day, which I stillappreciate.
It doesn't mean it's becomeboring at all.
It's funny because justrecently I was looking online
for a couple days here and thereI went online looking for this
particular air conditioning unitand I hadn't found anything.
(25:59):
Everything was crazy priced,and so one evening I just wasn't
even really thinking about it,but I just stopped for a minute
and I was sitting at my desk andI put my elbows on the desk and
rested my head and I justclosed my eyes and like within a
couple of minutes I had thissort of urge to go on the
(26:19):
computer and look for somethingtotally different, that I wanted
, a little item that was hadn'tbeen thinking about it lately,
so I went on there and found itand then found the air
conditioner unit at a reallygreat price that I was looking
for.
So you see how it was likethere.
The inspiration wasn't likeokay, here's where the AC unit
is that you're looking for.
(26:39):
It had a really good deal.
Instead, the inspiration washere, take this breadcrumb, and
now there's your otherbreadcrumb, there's the AC unit.
So it's not even sometimes likea direct line, and that's why
when you get inspirations, justfollow them.
(27:01):
You know, I was doing ameditation one time and I had
just emailed this company andsaid you know you made a mistake
.
You should have credited methis.
I was sure that they were wrongand I was sure that I was right
and I just did this reallylight meditation and all of a
sudden, in the middle of themeditation, I thought, oh no, it
wasn't them, it was this othercompany.
(27:23):
I had so much going on at thetime and things, packages being
delivered or whatever that I was.
I was totally wrong and I knewit for sure.
So I hurried up and I emailedthem back.
I'm like I am so sorry, it isnot you, it was another company,
you know.
So that was.
It was beautiful, because itwas all in really short timing
and I got corrected Now.
Had I not received thatinspiration, I probably would
(27:47):
have gone back and forth withthem for a little bit until I
finally figured out.
So we didn't need to go throughall that mess.
All I had to do is quicklyemail them back and say oh sorry
, you're off the hook, I waswrong.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
And that's the path of least resistance.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
Yeah, that's exactly it.
And you know, I think Imentioned recently the bumblebee
experience in an episode that Ihad with a client here and
there was a bumblebee in mykitchen.
I'm just talking and all of asudden something catches my
attention above her head andback into my kitchen.
And I was just talking to herabout finding the honey, because
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she's going through a breakup,and so we're talking about
finding the honey and I said toher there's a bumblebee in my
kitchen.
And she turned around and shesaid and you were just talking
about honey.
And so I thought this is justso fun.
Like it's not.
I didn't have any windows open,it wasn't time yet for them to
be out, and I walked out to thekitchen and by this time it's
(28:44):
hovering up to the ceiling and Ilooked up and I said hey, like,
hi, thank you.
Like, this is just so fun.
And I said follow me, I'm goingto.
I went over to the sink andopened the window and the screen
and I said I'm going to go backin that room and shut the door
because I didn't want my clientto think a bee was going to come
up behind her.
I said I'm just going to shutthis door.
I said you can stay or you cango.
(29:06):
But thank you, really thank youso much for that, for being
here, because that was justperfect timing.
I hear you all, I know you'reall paying attention and just
you know, and I have so many beebecause I talk about honey all
the time, I have so many honeyand bee experiences, it's just
laughable.
And so there was even one dayafter that I was on my front
(29:27):
porch and this I was watering aplant and this, this fuzzy, and
another thing you know, with theone I saw in my kitchen, it was
just it came close enough to mebefore, like when we got to the
window, that I could see, likeI almost felt, like I could
touch its fur or whatever thatis, and I read later that you
(29:47):
can actually touch them and theydon't get agitated, like you
can pet them, because I saw thisthing about different types of
bees and I thought, oh, maybe Ishould try to pet some bees.
Anyway, I'm on my porch and justwatered this plant and I turned
around and there's this bigbumblebee right in front of my
vision.
It was probably about six orseven inches away from my face
(30:09):
and just hovered there.
Oh wow, and I looked at it andit looked at me and I said hi,
and we just had this beautifulmoment.
And then it went up and over myhead and off it went.
So today I was just looking overa few things, so I'd be
prepared for our talk tonight,and I went out to the front
(30:32):
porch.
I was going to water I have aplant right now I only have two
plants, I'm just haven't gottenall my summer plants yet Went
out to the front porch to waterone and there was this honeybee
not a bumblebee and there wasthis honeybee not a bumblebee
but a honeybee that came rightup like my chest area and just
hovered there, just hoveredthere, and I thought this is
(30:52):
just so fun and so I said hi toit and everything, and then away
it goes, the other plant I haveout back.
So I came out through my officeto the back and just as I
opened the door to come out,this dove had been sitting on
the ground, by the way wentflying away and I thought, well,
there's a dove.
And I was just thinking aboutthe dove because I was looking
(31:14):
at the, you know the littlenotes for tonight.
And I thought it's just.
It seems random because I dofeed the birds, so I do get
doves around here, but one dovejust right there in that moment,
just when I happened to openthe door.
It's just beautiful timing.
I think if people just givethis credit more often, they'll
(31:36):
not only have more of theseexperiences, but they'll feel
the union of all of us in thistogether.
Because, I mean, was the dovelike a spirit that came in?
No, they influenced the dove.
The synchronistic motion of lifejust brings the bee to your
face or into your kitchen, youknow when it's just a fun,
(31:58):
because they're willing, right,they're willing to participate
and have fun.
So I just I really got a kickout of that because it was just
so.
But and the funny thing was, Iwasn't even thinking about
watering the plants.
I was, you know, here lookingat notes and doing things like
that and I thought, oh, Ihaven't watered the plants yet
and I got up and went and didthose two things and had those
(32:20):
two experiences.
So the timing and all that, youcould see how well tied
together all of that was.
Why did I get the inspirationright then?
Why was there a honeybee?
Of course there are other beesaround but not right in front of
me, like coming right up infront of my chest and just
staying there.
And I didn't.
I wasn't afraid of it, so itdidn't have any reason to fly
(32:42):
away.
And with honeybees I think it'shoneybe I wasn't afraid of it,
so it didn't have any reason tofly away, and I.
And then with honeybees I thinkit's honeybees, no, maybe it's
yeah.
Honeybees.
I think you can agitate them,but I think it's wasps.
Yeah, wasps are scary, yeah,yeah, you can really tick them
off, I guess.
But you know, and with the doveout back, I thought, no, that's
just cute, because I was justso it's.
(33:03):
I love the timing of this andyou know, like I said, if we can
just be playful about it, don'ttry to make it happen.
Give it credit when you do seeit.
Then you'll not only have theexperiences more often, but
you'll feel the connection.
You'll feel it won't be so airyfairy to say to a bumblebee hey
hi, thanks a lot, like, thanksfor the like, thanks for being
(33:25):
here.
Like that was just perfecttiming.
It won't seem so weird to dothat, because you really get it
at that point.
Like even the insects were allin this together and everything
is so well synchronized that wecan have a lot of fun if we want
to, you know.
And two, like there was a time,just like this past, the end of
(33:46):
this past winter, when myson-in-law came home from work
one day and he went into theirhouse and he realized it was
cold and so he went, checked thefurnace and it was not working.
So he calls his wife, who waswith me, and her kids or their
kids, and they're going oh no,this can't, we can't do this
right now, we can't get a newfurnace right now.
Oh, you know, and I said I justhope just hold on.
(34:10):
You don't even know reallywhat's going on yet.
So he called a family memberwho knows stuff like that,
walked him through it.
An hour later $20 for a part.
They had heat again.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
And I said to both of them I said now, do you see
what I mean?
You don't look at the fact thatyou know.
Oh, I had to stop and do thisbecause he wasn't planning on
doing anything like that.
When he got home from work hehad other things on his mind and
I said so.
It took an hour, it happened ona warmer day, it wasn't snowing
, it wasn't really really cold,it was still winter, but it was.
(34:49):
You could survive without heatif you had to.
It was a Friday, right, itwasn't like a work night and you
had the whole weekend.
If you had to deal with it asthe kids weren't home, it cost
$20 to fix it.
You had heat in an hour.
You had access to somebodyright away, instantly who could
walk you through it and help youwith this for free.
(35:10):
And he got educated on morefurnace stuff while they were
doing that, because life happens.
I mean, you know furnaces stopworking sometimes and you know
things go screwy as far as we'reconcerned, but nothing's really
ever screwy, and when we justrealize that things don't have
to be tragic like there had,there was a time in the past
(35:34):
where they lost heat, where itwasn't so convenient, and I
think they're picking up on thisenough now that their timing is
getting better.
Right, that ease of look hey,hey, it's Friday, you have
plenty of time to deal with this.
You have somebody who can helpyou through it, and so that's
why the ease comes in then.
(35:54):
And that's what I mean bylooking for the honey, because
their knee jerk reaction wasreaction was oh crap, yeah, this
isn't going to be good.
It's still winter technically,so we have to have heat and we
just don't want it.
This is not a good time forthat expense, right?
So even if we have thatknee-jerk reaction and we go
(36:20):
negative into something, you canalways put the brakes on and
say to yourself wait a minutewhere's the honey?
Where's the good stuff here?
Could this really work out forme?
Does it seem bad, and will itcontinue to be bad if I don't
(36:42):
clean this up real quick inmyself, because we can take
something that's not really thatbad and turn it into something
a whole lot worse just becausewe grind away at it, you know
you would have kept thinking I'mscrewed, we're screwed, this
isn't going to be good.
It would have been a 20 part andsomething else with it that was
more expensive or more timeconsuming or something right,
you know.
So it's.
(37:02):
The signs are sometimes very inyour face and sometimes they're
so subtle that they're a lot oftimes they're very subtle that
they're easy for most people tomiss, and I'm sure you and I
still miss some.
Oh, I'm sure I do.
There are signs and there aredefinitely times where I get the
(37:23):
hit and I override it and thenI know right away you got the
hit, you didn't follow it.
That's on you and I'm notblaming myself and beating
myself up'm just saying that'show we learn.
That's how we learn.
There was a time where I was, mykids were away and I was gonna
(37:45):
just watch a movie by myself,get all cozied up in the living
room and enjoy my time, and asI'm leaving the kitchen, I got
the hit to pick up my phone andtake it with me.
And I did not.
And I got all cozied in, gotthe movie started and the phone
rang and since my kids weren'thome, I thought I'd have to
answer that phone.
(38:06):
And that's another.
You just got.
That's on me.
You told me to get the phone.
You gave me the sign, thelittle inspiration to get the
phone, and I didn't.
So is it a big deal?
No, but do you see how likeit's?
It's there to make your lifemore smooth, more easy, all the
time.
Speaker 2 (38:27):
I had one today.
I work from home and I have anhour for lunch and I had planned
on running out for lunch to thegrocery store because there
were a few things that I needed,but I really did not feel like
going.
For whatever reason, I justdidn't want to do it, but I
forced myself to go.
(38:48):
I had a list in front of me.
I still forgot like a majoritem on the list and I I'm
convinced it's because it.
It wasn't my time to go to thestore.
I should have waited untileither after the podcast tonight
or tomorrow.
Even it might've been a betteroutcome, but it was just.
(39:10):
It was one of those thingswhere a lot, of, a lot of
roadblocks on my way there, likeI hit every light, lots of
traffic, that sort of thing,because that's just.
That was where I was at at thattime.
I think if I had waited itwould have been better.
Yeah, and you know when youfind yourself in that it would
have been better.
Speaker 1 (39:31):
Yeah, and you know, when you find yourself in that,
it's because we are we'regetting too, I don't know, doing
it ourselves.
We're in the mode of doing itourselves and trying to get
everything done and fit thingsin or whatever, and so, but when
you find yourself in that sortof experience where you're
thinking, okay, this is gettingmessy, I probably should have
(39:53):
done this in different timing,you can autocorrect by saying to
yourself, okay, maybe I misseda hit, maybe I got a sign and I
didn't take it.
But here I am right now.
How do I want it to go fromhere?
Right, I want this to be easy,like if I forget a shopping list
and I'm all about lists I havelists you think you know, being
(40:15):
intuitive, you wouldn't needlists.
It's just something I do.
Speaker 2 (40:18):
I do.
Speaker 1 (40:19):
So, but if I but I don't worry about it, though,
because if I get to a store andI think, oh, I don't have my
list or I don't have my phone, Ido that too.
I'll leave without my phone andI think, oh, you know what, I
spent like a good part of mylife without a cell phone and I
(40:39):
was just okay.
I was okay, I'll be fine.
And then I'll think to myself Idon't have that list, but all of
creation knows what's on thelist, you know, and then I end
usually end up finding things Iforgot to put on the list too.
Speaker 2 (40:46):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (40:47):
Yeah, we can get easy about it and go okay, yep, I'm,
I'm running into someroadblocks here.
I'm running into some friction.
I'm just going to cool my jetsand hit the reset button.
Everything's easy from here onout.
You know, this can be better,because we do have the option to
keep sort of driving off theside of the road or steering
(41:10):
ourselves back onto the road.
You know, we can keep thinking,oh man, this isn't going to be
good.
Why do I do this?
This is not working out for me.
Now I'm going to be late.
We can keep doing that andwe'll prove that right.
But there's another versionthat's available too.
There are multiple versionsavailable.
Speaker 2 (41:28):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (41:29):
So we can say, all right, all right, yep, I was
going off track, I was totallygoing off the side of the road
there.
But I'm good, this, this, I'mhitting that reset button.
And then you start getting yoursigns again.
And then you, you just learn tolaugh at yourself.
When you got, when you realizeafter the sign that you got the
sign, you know like you got itand you sort of overwrote it or
(41:52):
whatever yes didn't regard it.
And then then you know like oh,that's right, I did, I should
have.
Oh, you learn to laugh at thatand say it doesn't matter, it's
okay, because everything stillworks out.
There's always another sign,there's always another ease
(42:13):
available.
It's nice to share stories likethis because it helps us all
relate and realize that it doeshappen to us.
It's not just other people thatget signs or that recognize
divine timing.
Divine timing is alwayshappening.
But can we have even bettertiming?
(42:36):
Yeah, because like divinetiming of yeah, maybe I should
have gone later, but here I amnow and I don't have my list,
that's still divine timing, butit's divine timing according to
where you're at right now.
It's like the universe can onlywork with where you're at right
now.
It's like the universe can onlywork with where you're at right
now.
And if you're all balled up,there's going to be divine
(42:56):
timing in there and you'llprobably.
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (43:01):
Miss it.
Speaker 1 (43:02):
Or something will happen.
You know what I mean.
This is when we hit the potholeand our car goes out of
alignment, right, you know,could it have?
Could we have gone, have gonearound, could we have gone a
different route?
Yeah, but we're so balled upthat divine timing is now
synchronizing in like the leftlane.
For anybody that knows my leftlane, right lane analogy, you
(43:23):
know, the divine timing issynchronizing up in the lane,
with the potholes and theroadkill and all the stuff you
don't want exactly, perfectlytimed.
People say, well, what are thechances, right, that I wouldn't
have seen that and the roadkilland all the stuff you don't want
Exactly, perfectly timed?
People say, well, what are thechances, right, that I wouldn't
have seen that pothole and hitit that hard?
Or what are the chances?
that, that car would have pulledout right into my bumper.
Well, the chances were indivine timing, and it's not a
(43:45):
bad thing.
It's good information and ifyou pay attention, you might
meet the love of your life atthat little accident.
Or you might have aninspiration for something
totally unrelated because ofthat incident.
That pays off later Right.
Even though we might havesynced up in divine timing to
(44:05):
the unwanted, there's stillhoney in it.
You can't get away from thesweetness of life.
it's in everything, even thestuff that we want to call bad
or traumatic or right crazy yeah, and I mean I I tend to go back
and I think, okay, well, thisdidn't work out now, but maybe
(44:27):
something better is going tohappen later, and you know and
really that's an even morecorrect way to say that it's
just because this didn't workout the way I thought it would
or the way I wanted it to,Doesn't mean that it wasn't
divine timing and doesn't meanthat I can't get a better
version.
Right, you know?
Because we we oftentimes haveour mind made up about the way
(44:50):
something should work out.
Speaker 2 (44:51):
Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1 (44:51):
Because we oftentimes have our mind made up about the
way something should work out,and when it doesn't, we think
something's gone wrong, insteadof just saying, well, okay,
that's not the way I thought itwas going to go, but how's this
working out for me?
How is this working out for me?
Because everything is so.
This is too, and that's whythis is so fun to know, because
(45:12):
it's so freeing, you know, andit's not like with me knowing
this and teaching this, it's notlike my life doesn't suck.
Sometimes I live in this worldof contrast.
I get ticked off sometimes, youknow, not for long.
Speaker 2 (45:26):
Right.
Speaker 1 (45:27):
I run into stressors, I run into drama.
You know I have a family.
Everybody that has a family hassome kind of drama somewhere
Right.
So you know, there's stuff,there's stuff and it's OK.
And that's why I always sayjust because I know, this does
not mean I like live a perfectlife that you know people should
(45:49):
aspire to.
I live a human life, and that'sthe point I'm trying to make.
Is that perfect means perfectlyimperfect.
It means unfolding, evolving,going through the motions here
and just seeing how you do withit and not being too hard on
(46:10):
yourself for any reason.
Yeah, and that was a hard onefor me because I have a tendency
to be too hard on myself, and alot of people do.
I still watch myself with that.
I'm a lot better at it than Iwas, you know, for the better
part of my life.
It's just got better and betterand better and better over time
, but it's still something thatI'm aware of.
It's not?
(46:30):
got better and better and betterand better over time, but it's
still something that I'm awareof.
It's not something I worryabout, it's not something that I
have to manage or battle oranything like that.
It's just something I'm aware of.
I know that I have a tendencyto be hard on myself and I know
that I most likely will do itagain.
But I also know that I cancatch myself and then undo it
and then I can laugh at it,because then I can say, okay,
that's just me being human,whatever.
(46:53):
Yeah, right, it's all right.
This has been a lot of fun andI know that this has got to be
helpful for anybody that'sthinking where are my signs?
Or I don't see divine timing.
Speaker 2 (47:07):
They're there.
Speaker 1 (47:08):
Yeah.
Or even like I see signs, butis that really what they are?
Or back to the beginning of ourconversation.
Like you said, is this okay?
Like am I upsetting God in anyway?
Or am I upsetting?
First of all, I wouldn't reallycare too much about what other
people think, Because when youdo that, now your button's out
there to be pushed Right, If yourealize.
(47:30):
Okay, everybody has theiropinions, Everybody's come to
their own conclusions.
They may or may not match mine.
I'm not saying there's a wrong,but I know mine feel right to
me and that's all that I reallyneed to be giving my attention
to and then follow what feelsgood to you.
Speaker 2 (47:45):
Yeah, and I think that's one of one of my bigger
problems is and I'm definitely alot better than I used to be is
worrying what other people aregoing to think.
Speaker 1 (47:58):
That's one I had to get over too, yeah, and it's
still one I have to be aware of.
You know, like I don't have tomanage it, I'm not fighting it,
but it is something to be awareof.
Like, okay, I could, and don'town it, like I have the tendency
to be hard on myself or I havethe tendency to care too much
about it.
Don't own it anymore.
Just say to yourself I may betoo sensitive at some point.
(48:21):
I may take myself seriously, orI may take life seriously.
I may be hard on myself.
I may not be ever again.
I'm just paying attention.
So you see the difference inthat, because anytime we own
something like, we labelourselves.
That's why I don't likediagnoses and any kind of labels
(48:42):
that people put on themselves,like when people say like I
suffer from depression, well,good luck with that.
People say like I suffer fromdepression, well, good luck with
that.
And not to be sarcastic, butreally honestly, good luck with
that, because that's going to berough If you, if you feel you
(49:02):
suffer from depression or I'm anaddict, well, there you are.
Then.
Speaker 2 (49:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (49:09):
But if you say to yourself, I have, I've taken
drugs and I might, I might takethem again, I don't know.
I just know right now I'm not.
Or I know right now I'm stoned,I'm completely stoned right now
.
Here I am, this is where I'm atand I'm not going to fight it,
because when I fight it I drawit in more Right.
(49:33):
When we make our peace with whowe are, where we're at, what
we're doing, and love ourselvesthe way Source loves us, no
matter what we're up to, even ifwe're being mean to somebody,
when we can love ourselves andother people from that vantage
point, life gets so much easier.
You know, you learn not to behard on yourself.
(49:54):
You learn that nobody's judgingyou.
That's another thing religionshave taught.
Right, you're being judged.
Yeah, well, okay.
So now we're under a microscope.
Whether we're asleep or awakeor having sex or, you know,
shopping or whatever it is we'redoing, we're under a microscope
(50:15):
.
It with that thought, that'shard.
Yeah, I mean, if you think thatbeing human is being full of
sin and sin is just ignorance,that's all it is.
You just don't know.
So if we think that we're bornwith bad stuff and that we're
(50:37):
going to do bad stuff, but wehave to try not to.
We have to try not to Don't doit.
Don't do it.
But you know it's in you, butdon't do it.
Well, that's impossible, right,right, that doesn't even make
any sense, you know, it's likesomebody saying you're
heterosexual, right, yes, yes,do you?
(50:58):
If you don't mind me asking youdon't have to answer.
So if I said to you okay, well,mary, you know what it's really
important that you be gay, likeit's, you just have to be,
because that's what everybodysays and there's a book that
says that.
So you have to be gay now.
Could you do that?
No, right, it's just, it's notin you.
Just like, if I say to somebodywho's gay well, sorry, you know
what.
You have to turn that, switchoff.
Speaker 2 (51:16):
Right.
Speaker 1 (51:17):
Turn your straight switch on.
Speaker 2 (51:18):
Yeah, it doesn't work like that, no.
Speaker 1 (51:21):
Right.
And so I think when werecognize that you know we are,
we're not controlled, we don'thave to be away because somebody
else says we have to be thatway, you know, then we're full
of more ease.
We see our signs, we see ourdivine timing.
Life gets easier Now.
You're not around people who aregoing to push your buttons
(51:43):
because your buttons aren't outthere to be pushed, right, and
that's why you can see somepeople who are living a certain
lifestyle and are getting a lotof backlash about it, and you
can see other people that areliving that same lifestyle very
happily.
They're just having a good time.
Same thing.
It's just they're notattracting the people that make
(52:05):
fun of it or don't like it orcondemn it because they've made
some kind of peace with it, orthey just don't care what other
people think.
Right, you know, when we canfind that ease, that's where the
signs are, that's where therecognition of divine timing is,
because otherwise we areconfused or flustered or caught
(52:27):
up or whatever, and you're justnot going to see them as much,
you're not going to get thesweetest ones.
Then Right, for the most partright, there's always a crack of
least resistance somewhere witheverybody from time to time.
But you know, once you find yourease with things generally
across the board, then you'rejust.
You can't help but be moreavailable.
(52:48):
Just you can't help but be moreavailable to that light energy
that is playful and brings thedoves and the bees and the moses
thing and the lights on lightsoff.
You know it's just it's fun itis it is.
Thank you for joining me againand talking about such a fun
topic.
Well, thank you for having me.
(53:10):
Absolutely.
I really appreciate it.
So for everyone out there, Ihave some stuff that's running
some one course, especiallyright now that's going to start
the end of this month, tarotMade Easy, which is an 11 week
course.
You can email me at Rebecca atmysticaltruthscom.
Although this might come out,this episode might come out late
(53:30):
, to the end of May of 2024.
But if there are any other, Ican run intuition development
again if anybody wants it.
So just let me know.
I'm not here to sell youanything, but I am definitely
going to let you know what's upand you can find me at mystical
truthscom.
Thank you.
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