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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Welcome to the
Mystical Truths Podcast this is.
Rebecca, and I'm really gladyou're here.
Let's unlock your world.
In this episode, tammy andSharon are back to ask more
questions.
They let me know that after thelast episode which a lot of
people really enjoyed, by theway they had more questions that
were sparked from the lastconversation.
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So we're just going to moveforward with the questions that
the last episode brought up.
So, tammy, I think you hadinitially said that you really
wanted to take that further.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Yes, absolutely.
It just was so funny howquestions just kept popping up
when thinking about the soul.
So I have like an initialquestion and a part B and a part
C, but I'll just go with thefirst part of that right now.
Does your soul have its ownpersonality, and if so, is that
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why we have the personalitiesthat we have?
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Okay.
So, yes, I would say, your soulhas its own personality, not
necessarily like the personalitythat you see in yourself right
now, though.
So every soul has its its ownspark, you know its own spark of
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energy, its own spark of being,and what we would call a
personality that goes along withthat.
But when we choose to come intoa physical life, a personality
of the person is one of thethings that we're picking.
So, for example, if, in thislife, let's say, I wanted to
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well, I'll use myself as anexample.
Apparently, I wanted to learn alot and teach a lot, and so I
picked a personality that wasvery curious, that was
determined in some ways, thatwas very sensitive.
So there's this package that wesort of put together, that, in
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our words, we call personality,that are unique to this lifetime
, and this is why, like, ifthere's somebody that is just
mean or really dominant, thatmay not be well, the mean part
definitely wouldn't be liketheir soul but it's something
that they felt is useful andnecessary for what they were
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coming in for this time, Sort oflike.
You know, when you take a roleas an actor, you might choose to
be the bad guy or the strongpersonality because you want to
see what it's like to actthrough that.
Or the strong personalitybecause you want to see what
it's like to act through thatsort of mindset.
So yeah, as a soul we all haveour uniqueness, although we are
part of the whole.
It's our expression, maybe youwant to call it how we express
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who we are as a whole.
But with that we pick aspecific personality that we don
in this lifetime and we kind ofsee how we do with it, with who
we are as a whole.
How do we do with thispersonality?
So sometimes it's, you know, Itell people if you think of
anybody you've known here thathas passed, they are that
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personality to an extent, but awhole lot more, All the good
parts you knew of that personand a whole lot more.
Does that make sense?
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Yeah, it does.
So my part B and C's you'vealready answered that, because
that would have been like wouldwe have a different personality
every time we reincarnate?
Speaker 1 (03:43):
And just like an
actor taking a part in a movie,
say, that actor can take thatpersonality, that character and
be that, but is going to do adifferent job of it than I would
through my perspective and mypersonality, or that you would.
It's us as a soul coming intothis physical stuff and taking
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on that character and justseeing how we do with it.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Gotcha, gotcha.
Well, you've answered thatwhole first part of everything
so quickly, okay, well, do wereally have a soulmate, and does
that only apply to a romanticpartner, or can you have
multiple soulmates, as in familyor friends?
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Yes, I believe we can
have multiple soulmates because
, in my understanding of it, asoulmate is another soul that
you know and love outside ofthis lifetime and may have
shared many lifetimes with.
So you have a unique bond, ormaybe you're just closer.
So you may choose, when youcome in physically, to be
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romantic partners.
You may be cousins, you may befriends that meet at work you
may not incarnate at all at thesame time that meet at work.
You may not incarnate at all atthe same time.
And so if you, if you find thatthere's one person, or maybe a
few people, that you're just you, just you know how you.
There's just somethingdifferent about some people.
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that doesn't mean anything toanybody else but there's just
something you know, there's aconnection, there's just
something that you can't reallyexplain, but it's a deeper
feeling that would be what wemight call soulmate.
So it doesn't mean that thatsoul is tethered to you or that
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you don't function without thatsoul.
It just means that it's likebeing best friends in a sense
nice yeah sharon, do you have aquestion?
Speaker 3 (05:48):
well, now I have I
have two other questions, that
kind of go with the soul thing.
I was reading up on adoppelganger and it just gave me
a little bit of information andit said something about that's
when your soul splits and youwill see the person and then you
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will see the soul behind it,like in two different images.
So, being that the soul, whenit focuses on you, can be
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somewhat of a differentpercentage here and there, and
even wherever it's focusing onyou from, do you have anything
more to kind of educate me?
Speaker 1 (06:40):
with the doppelganger
, with a doppelganger, yeah, and
that's typically, I think,thought of also as somebody that
looks just like you, likeanother person on this planet
that looks just like you or verymuch like you.
I think people use that term forthat as well.
But as far as like the soul,splitting your soul's already in
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a sense, our soul never splits,really Like we would take a
stick and split it in two sticks.
Your soul as a whole can takepart of its focus and intently
give its attention through aphysical experience, a human
body.
So it's like being able to sortof be in your car and you're
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looking out at the world, you'redriving, you're keeping
yourself on the road, but youare in the car and you're aware
that you're in the car, butyou're still aware of what's
going on outside of the car andinteracting with that in a sense
.
So, as far as doppelganger goes, if we say a soul, would you
said split, and then sort of therest of you is there just as an
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energy or in another body.
What was your take on it?
Speaker 3 (07:55):
The same person.
I'll give you an example ofTammy, because this happened to
Tam.
Example of Tammy, because thishappened to Tam.
She went past the door whereher daughter was sitting and her
daughter said hello, or justseen her go through, and then,
like two seconds later, she wentpast the door again the same
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direction, which wasn't.
She was unable to get throughthe kitchen door around the
house and come back in the frontdoor where her daughter had
seen her.
Twice in just mere seconds.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
So you're saying from
her daughter's perspective, she
saw her mother twice in timing.
That wouldn't have made logicalsense, right?
Well, if you think of the factthat energy doesn't really
function in time and space, thatwould make sense.
That would be doable.
Was that Tammy both times?
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Was it her daughter having anexperience that maybe didn't
even have anything to do withTammy?
Either could be true, and that'swhy it's experiences like that
that help us remember that timeand space is just a physical
thing here that we've becomevery used to and we expect all
of the universe and beyond to bein the limitations of time and
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space.
And that's not how it works.
That's how we know that we canremote view, for example, I can
be here and tune into somethingelse that's in another location,
even possibly in another time.
So that experience I would takeit as her daughter, either
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re-seeing what she already sawor it replaying.
And she just saw it, becausenothing ever goes away.
When we we have, like theconversation we're having right
now doesn't go away, it justvibrates out of our frequency of
hearing the experiences.
Every experience we ever had isstill reachable, and that's why
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the thought of everything ishappening all at once is
something that's hard for us towrap our brains around, is
something that's hard for us towrap our brains around.
But it also kind of makes sensetoo, because if we can tune
into other times or we can seeresidual energy of something
that already happened, then weknow it still exists.
It just doesn't exist in theway that we're used to seeing
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things exist.
Does that help?
Speaker 3 (10:24):
It's hard to wrap my
brain around that one.
Yeah, but I kind of get whatyou're saying.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Even when people talk
about like in near-death
experiences, when they say I hada life review, they say I
literally lived.
I beed in those moments againLike it was real time.
It was really there, but it wasvery quick.
So that helps us to recognizethat this is just a very slow,
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dense game we're playing here,and outside of this physical
awareness of which we are justfocused in partially, things are
very, very different and thatcan be seen here.
That's what we call the miracleexperiences and the
coincidences and things likethat, where you think I just saw
my mother, right Tammy'sdaughter, thinking I just saw
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her like she couldn't have gonearound that fast to come the
same direction.
Did it replay?
Was it her again?
You know it?
Just it sparks a lot ofquestions in us because we just
have a hard time grasping this,no time, no space, this energy
thing being very different thanwhat we're used to.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
Okay, yeah, I can
wrap my head around that.
That makes sense.
But you know the whole conceptabout the soul and the
percentages and you know likeyou could be on Earth in two
different countries at the sametime, correct?
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Yeah, even Michael
Newton's research, you know,
showed that in the between liferegression research that he did,
and not just his work, but it'sout there also, with different
experiences people have had,that it is possible that we can
take on more than one physicallife at a time Because, again,
we're only focusing part of ourattention and we can multitask
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as souls much differently thanwe know multitasking to be here.
So could we and would we taketwo different lives and we
wouldn't take two similar, likewe wouldn't come in as twins.
There's too much similaritythere.
They tell us that if we'regoing to do that, we want two
different experiences.
So, generally speaking, youwould pick two totally different
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bodies, two experiences thatare not related or don't run
into each other during thatlifetime, may come in or out at
different timing.
Right, so we, we can do that,we can do that, but from what
I've understood, it's not verycommon.
It's more common that we justfocus into one life experience
at a time.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
I mean, that's what I
was thinking about when I'm
thinking that the soul couldsplit.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
Which really means
the soul can just divide its
attention, because it's not likepart of your soul was plucked
off of the hole and dropped intoa baby body here.
It's just literal focus throughthis life experience and can
focus just like we can walk andchew gum at the same time.
Yeah, some of us Might be oneway to think about it.
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We can do multiple things atone time and for us that's a
really watered down example, butit kind of paints the picture
enough, okay.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
Thanks for clearing
that up.
I see it more clearly now, yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
There's always going
to be mystery, because every
question brings more questions,and that's such a good thing.
That's how eternity becomeseternal, and so we don't have
all of the information here, andI say it all the time.
We could all be wrong about allof this.
We really could.
We could just be entertainingourselves, because this seems
right to me, because if you lookaround, especially these days
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with the accelerated shift thatwe're in, there are so many
different opinions, and if youlisten to people who've had
spiritual experiences or neardeath experiences or out of body
experience, there's quite avariety in what, or channelers
even there's quite a variety inwhat is being said, and that can
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make your head spin because youthink, all right, there should
be one truth and we should betelling it.
But what source tells us isthere are many truths because of
that variety, because there areso many, there are just
multitudes of experiences andoutlooks, and that's what they
tell us.
That's a really good thing.
So if somebody is believingthat when we die, we go into
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like a holding place until Jesuscomes and resurrects us, that's
their truth.
That's their truth for now, inthis lifetime.
Is it really really true?
I don't think so, but thenagain we don't know enough to be
able to say that there isn'tpurpose for that kind of variety
outside of this physicalexperience.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
Yeah, but on that
aspect of thinking that way.
It's like everybody has adifferent experience, so what
fits well with you, like withinyourself, as far as, like you
know, that resonates with me, Ican believe that.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
And you know, from a
really young age.
I was just so curious, I wantedthe truth, I was just wanting
to know, like, what's reallygoing on here, what's really the
truth?
So it's been difficult for me,more than most people probably,
to accept the fact that there'sjust a lot of truths and that's
why you know my website andeverything for years now
mystical truths with an S on it,because there are so many
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different truths that we I thinkit's important for us just to
follow what feels good to us,Just what is true to you, what
feels what hits your truth meterin a really good way.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
That's what you
should go.
That sounds good to me.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
And if somebody else
is saying something else hits
their truth meter, well fine,maybe they're right and maybe
we're all right, maybe we're allwrong.
And that's why, you know, wecan have a lot of fun in this
life if we just do what lightsup for us and pay attention to
what makes sense to us and leteverything else go, because
there is so much variety herethat we're not ever in a human
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experience.
We are not going to all agreeon everything, on maybe even one
thing we can.
I think we all agree that wewake up and go to sleep and we
breathe air.
But you know, when it comes toother things, you know they're
just varying opinions.
I mean, look at politics.
I'm not much of a Twitter Xperson, but I things come up on
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there and I'll just look.
And I don't want to be much ofa Twitter X person because it's
just astounding what people sayon there.
You know it's like I've done myresearch, this is the one I'm
voting for, this is the one.
And then somebody else will sayI've done my research, this is
the one I'm voting for, andsomebody else will say, well,
I've done my research.
And and somebody else said,well, I've done my research and
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so you know.
It just shows how fickle we are.
We're all doing our researchand we're proving that we're all
different and we come up withdifferent opinions.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
So what else is on
your mind?
Speaker 2 (17:36):
Why would a soul get
stuck?
Once you die, aren't youimmediately aware of your higher
self, and you know?
Why wouldn't you just go backto your higher self?
Why would you get stuck here onEarth?
Speaker 1 (18:26):
no-transcript, and
even if it takes us a little bit
to shake off the dust or maybethere is a process we go through
I believe that we allsuccessfully complete that
transition.
We tend to think of it as likeI'm going somewhere and if I
don't go and make that journey,that trip, I'm stuck.
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And I think that, as a soul,it's not like we withdraw from
this physical experience and weare like masters of all masters.
We're a work in progress, Ithink, as souls, because there's
eternity and there's expansionand there's always more and more
and more and more and more.
So we're always gathering andhaving fun with it and finding
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joy in it and not being damagedby any of it.
You know, no matter how tough alife is here, I don't believe
that it damages any soul andthat we don't take any of that
negativity with us.
I can see where it might takeus a while to like kind of get
our head back on again in asense.
You know what it's like ifyou've been through something
that really, really gets yourattention, it can take you a
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second to shake that off.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
That could be
possible.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
But I do believe that
we all withdraw our focus and
we have help along the way,because we do tend a lot of
people get very dug in here.
So the process of death is abeautiful one and it has
everything in it for eachindividual person to help them
reenter wholly into non-physical.
So what do we do about all thetalk here about ghosts and
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people who are stuck andhauntings and things like that?
I believe that that is residualenergy.
Okay, If there is any entity orsoul or whatever that people
say is negative or doingnegative things, I believe that
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is also source, meeting us wherewe want to be met or speaking
the language we want to hearright now, because we'll come
through it all, back into ourfull trust eventually.
But in this world of contrast,you know, if we want to get down
and dirty, we certainly can,and there are teachers that
teach that can teach from thoseangles.
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But I wouldn't be afraid of anyone of them because there's
nothing to fear.
And when we have hauntings orwe have ghost experiences or
whatever, it can be that personor the people or the energy of a
group, even attracting.
We can attract whatever we want.
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We can make real, whatever wewant.
So if we, without evenintending to, consciously want
to be terrified, we certainlycan kick that up.
That can be done.
But again, it's all out of lovein sort of disguise, you might
want to say Otherwise.
I think it's like of love insort of disguise you might want
to say Otherwise.
I think it's like I said,nothing ever really goes away.
So you can tap into things thathave already happened,
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experiences that people havealready had here.
So if let's say that there is a, I remember somebody saying one
time that they were staying ata house, some huge house, and
they heard noise downstairs.
They were up in the bedroom, oneof the bedrooms, and they heard
noise downstairs and they camedown the steps and saw like this
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whole ball happening out inthis huge room, Like all these
people dancing and you know,like old time and how.
I mean there's no way we'regoing to call that a haunting or
souls that are stuck.
How is a whole group of soulsthat attended that party going
to be stuck there after theydied and come back just to that
party?
So it helps us realize thatokay, yeah, that party happened
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and there was a lot of energy inthat and these people just
tapped into it.
They just happened to seesomething that you could say is
replaying, but it's not.
It's just playing, it's justalways available, Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
So would it be.
I don't know if you've told usthis before or not, but like, if
a person dies abruptly andviolently, are they like
confused and they don't likejust go back to their higher
self.
They kind of just hang out herebecause they don't know what
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just happened to them.
Or does it take a whilesometimes for you to just go
back to your higher self?
Speaker 1 (23:04):
I don't think it
takes a while, I think that
happens in a flow.
But how we shake off the stink,so to speak, of life I could
see.
I mean there's always.
Life is always intertwined withall of us.
Non-physical is alwaysintertwined with all of us,
always aware of where we're at,what we're experiencing and
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where the benefits are to thatgiven our free will.
So if somebody dies a, we'll say, a mean, tragic death, we don't
know what the purpose for thatwas for that soul, but all of
creation does.
And it's not like the purposewas you had to die in this
terrible way because you didsomething karmically.
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There's not that.
We bring ourselves to what webring ourselves to and the
trauma of it isn't what we thinkit is.
Once we have withdrawn ourfocus which oftentimes happens
before the tragedy is reallythat bad right, or before the
experience, and as it's beingwithdrawn before, during, after,
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there's always non-physicalcounterparts helping.
There's always that support,that guidance, that nurturing
that just brings us right alongsmoothly through that process,
whether it looks like that tothe human eye or not.
And that continues, continues.
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So again, you know, if a soulmaybe was really really dug in
here and really ride life hardand then had a hard exit.
It's sort of what the soulbrought itself to through that
experience and none of it iswrong or bad.
It may be unwanted from aconscious standpoint but it's
not wrong or bad.
It just is what it is from aconscious standpoint.
But it's not wrong or bad.
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It just is what it is.
But if in that, if that soulwithdraws focus and just sort of
is, like I said, having alittle bit of a reorientation
issue, if that's even a thingthere's support for that.
We are known better than weknow ourselves while we're in
physical, non-physical, knowsevery one of us way better than
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we know ourselves, knows what wewant, what we intended as a
soul, what would be helpful forus as we make that transition.
You know, and that's why now weknow what near-death
experiences are and they'revaried.
But we really can't say we knowexactly what the death
experience is, because you don'tcome back from that one to tell
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your story.
But in a near-death experiencepeople often will say my
so-and-so was there, but myother like my soulmate wasn't
there.
Or my partner from life wasn'tthere but my Aunt Mary was there
, or Jesus was there, and it'swhatever suits you in the moment
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and they know what's going towork for you Now when you say
they you're talking about likeyour spirit guides, your angels,
or the rest of us, the rest ofthe crew.
You know, I for me I'm not.
I understand why we use wordslike spirit guides and angels
and ascended masters and Jesusesand Buddhas and things like
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that.
But it just seems more real tome to put us all sort of in one
category of love of souls, soulsthat are looking out for each
other, souls that are expanding,maybe in very different ways,
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because I think that helps usstop the idea that they are
holier than we are or that theyare wiser than we are.
You know we're just one of themthat's physically, partially
physically focused right now.
And of course, you know we'rejust one of them that's
physically, partially physicallyfocused right now.
And of course, you know, if youput somebody in a dark room,
it's really helpful if they havesome friends on the outside
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that can see through the darkand say you might want to walk
forward, stop right there, makea left over here, just guide us
through.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
Well, my next
question is about like the fifth
dimension.
Now, I have heard that that'swhere the unseen kind of I don't
know live I don't know ifthat's the right word for it
where they exist, maybe Is thatwhere our soul is at?
Well, your soul is right here,is that?
Speaker 1 (27:32):
where our soul is at.
Well, your soul is right herehaving this conversation with us
.
You are your soul.
It's just the bigger percentageof you is right here but not
focused into the humanexperience.
So it's a whole experience,like your whole soul is doing
this thing, but it needs to havesome of its attention's, sort
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of like a back to driving thecar.
The bigger part of you has tobe in the car driving.
You have to be working the thecontrols, while part of you is
focused out there and veryengaged with the traffic lights
and the people and is, you know,traffic, so you can be aware
and in this physical lifetimebut not be, you're just not
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totally in it.
So our soul isn't somewhere.
Our soul is right where ourawareness is.
So what?
The fifth dimension?
I mean?
The dimensions are not physicalplaces.
The dimensions we can say arestates of being or are where we
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be present or focused or awarein any given moment.
And I don't believe that we gofrom dimension to dimension to
dimension by location or byawareness.
I believe we mix it up.
There may be moments whereyou're more third dimension,
you're just more physicallyaware.
There may be times where you'remore fourth dimension, which
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would be sort of morespiritually aware, or fifth
dimension, where you're focusedon, or more aware of,
non-physical.
And that's why people say thefifth dimension is where heaven
exists.
It's the other side, it's wherethoughts are created, you know.
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It's where we become aware ofmore than just this physical
body or this physical experience.
So you can see how we wouldjust in this life that we're
having, because our awarenesswill shift.
There are times where we'remore third dimensional, there's
times where we're more fifthdimensional.
Does that make sense?
Speaker 3 (29:46):
I don't know, because
I'm thinking the fifth
dimension is some place whereyou have to focus to be able to
see things.
Is that not true?
Speaker 1 (29:59):
Well, it's, yeah,
because it's.
It's not a place you'refocusing, though.
It's an awareness that you'reshifting.
You're shifting your awareness,just like your soul focuses,
into a third dimension.
While you're in this thirddimension, the soul's awareness
can shift around.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
Okay, so I must be
getting it kind of mixed up in
my head as far as a place and itis not a place, I don't believe
it's a place Because we'retalking non-physical.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
how could it be a
place?
This is how we've become soconfused as people, because
we've been taught that, likeheaven is out there somewhere
and you go there.
When you're done Like, youleave your body and you go there
physically.
Well, how can you do that ifyou're not physical?
Energy is energy.
It doesn't.
It doesn't know time and space.
It doesn't function in time andspace like we do.
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It doesn't have a voice box tocommunicate.
It doesn't need ears to hearEnergy is transmitted.
It's sort of like how theenergy goes into your radio or
your.
TV, Again, maybe not the bestexample, but it's something we
can relate to.
And you know, the funny thingis and this is why you know
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we're just so fickle as peoplebecause if you look up, maybe,
symbology, the symbol of a doveor a tree or whatever, you'll
find a whole bunch of differentanswers to that.
If you look up what doesnumerology like, what does zero
through nine or 10, what does itrepresent, what does it mean,
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Look it up, You'll get all kindsof different answers to that
you just have to go with whatfeels right to you because, just
like the dimensions, if youlook up I'm sure I'm guessing if
you look up and do a search forlike the 12 dimensions, or 13,
or 15, or 500 or five, whateveryou think they are, you'll find
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all of that.
And you'll find differentversions of it in anything you
read, especially online, youknow, because people have
different perspectives andthey're interpreting things
different.
So, again, you know, it takesus to what the hell is the truth
then?
What are these dimensions andwhat do we, what do we want to
know about them?
It has to be an inside job,like everything else.
(32:22):
You just have to go with whatrings your truth bell and what
suits your sense of truth orawareness, and let that expand
as you go through eternity.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
Would that also be
like if you said it's an
awareness, but people havedifferent interpretations of it,
so, whatever the interpretationthat you feel comfortable with,
that makes you understand itbetter in your mind, is that
what you should then believe?
Speaker 1 (33:04):
yeah, I mean you
don't have much of a choice
because you are where you are inthis human experience.
And so that's like I was sayingif somebody, if it really feels
logical and hits a truth metersomewhere for somebody to
believe that when we die we gointo this holding place where
Jesus comes and enlightens usfrom, if that really feels good
(33:25):
to that person, then I would say, believe it and enjoy that
belief.
I don't believe it, but I don'tneed them to believe what I
believe and I certainly don'tneed to believe what they do.
That's variety and that's whatwe want here.
If we came here and we allbelieved the same things, we
would be so bored.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
If we wanted the same
things the same things.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
That's why I tell
people you know that you know
want a relationship and thinkthat they have to get themselves
to some sort of way before theycan be, you know, desirable for
other people.
We all have such differentvarieties of who we're attracted
to and what that looks like andwhat it sounds like.
That Thank goodness, because ifwe all were attracted to the
same type of person, that wouldbe a problem.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
Yeah, it would.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
And so we're not all
going to be attracted to the
same spiritual, religious,non-affiliated.
We're just not all going tosubscribe to the same channels.
We're not going to listen tothe same YouTube videos or the
same podcast.
We're not going to read thesame books.
We're not going to be the samewhile we're here.
We may be similar with otherpeople, and some people get
(34:41):
really agitated by all of thatvariety, Like we should clean
this up.
It should not be that varied,because there's a lot of it that
I don't like and I don't want.
So get rid of that and thenwe'll be okay.
And source tells us no, that'llnever work and it's not what we
want here.
We want the variety.
It's okay.
If some people like baked beansand I don't I actually do it's
(35:07):
okay, you know.
It's okay if some people wantto vote for that presidential
candidate and I there's no wayI'm going to vote for that one.
That's okay.
So what do we do about that?
Right, let's take politics, forexample and I'm not one.
I don't, I'm not a fan ofpolitics, but let's use it
because it's a really goodexample, especially this year,
(35:28):
instead of saying I'm going todo my research and figure out
who I'm going to vote for.
Instead of that, I would saytell the story that you want to
be true.
Talk about a government, theway you like a government to be,
talk about what is working welland what could improve and how
you would like it to be, andthen feel your way to the voting
(35:51):
booth and that's true withanything, you know.
If you don't like the fact thatpeople do some of the things
that they do, how would you likeit to be?
Not for them?
Don't try to change theirexperience.
Just how would you like yourexperience to be?
Like, maybe I don't.
I would love my experience tonot include those people.
(36:13):
That's fair enough, becauseyou're not going to change them,
nor should you want to.
Everybody's up to somethingdifferent here and they have
every right to do whatever it isthey're doing and sync up with
other people that match that insome way or another.
So if we look at people thatare maybe in gangs and we think,
(36:33):
oh, no see, we should justeither remove them from the
planet or like, change them,send them to church or something
, you know that'll do it.
So that doesn't work, does it?
It doesn't work when we try topush people into what we think
(36:53):
they should be.
It makes them rebel becauseeverybody's freedom is what's
important to them.
What does help is if we lovethem from where they're at and
mind our own damn business.
Speaker 3 (37:03):
I agree.
Yeah, I mean you have enough onyour plate with some of the
challenges that you go throughin your lifetime.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
You don't need to
borrow somebody else's or cause
somebody else to have a hugechallenge because you don't
agree with them Right, and youalso don't need to make your
life more complicated by caringthat much about what they're up
to and what you think theyshould be up to.
You know that just complicatesyour life.
Now, not only are you trying tojuggle your own balls or
(37:33):
whatever, Every time.
I say balls and my grandsons.
You know they just have that inmy mind, so I'll change that.
So it's one thing if you'rejuggling your own details of
life, but to invite in more bydoing something that is
(37:53):
impossible makes it even worse.
Because for us to judge otherpeople and want to fix them
because we think they're brokenjust does nothing but complicate
our world and make us miserable, because nobody's broken,
nobody needs fixed.
We're all just different.
And if we don't like whatsomebody else is up to, we do
not have to include that intoour life experience in any
(38:14):
fashion.
And people will say, well, howdo I know?
It might just creep into mylife experience.
It only creeps in if you giveyour attention to it, or
something like that.
That is true, because nothingcomes out of the blue, it comes
out of the oblivious, becausewe're, you know, sometimes
people aren't paying attentionto what their where their
(38:42):
thoughts have been at,predominantly, therefore what
they could be, what they areattracting some version of.
But we can be aware we can, wecan be attentive to what we're
giving our airtime, to whatwe're giving our attention to.
So, for example, with thegovernment, you know people
thinking, oh, you know, this isterrible.
Well, they're not helping.
That's why we have such an oddordeal.
(39:05):
It's such an odd situationbecause people just have made it
a habit to give more of theirattention to what they don't
want and don't like than whatthey do want and what they do
like.
But we're getting better at it,I believe.
Speaker 3 (39:19):
Well, I'm definitely
getting better at it, but I
can't say for sure.
The TV is.
Speaker 1 (39:26):
I don't watch much TV
at all.
I listen to.
I'm very selective about anynews that I listen to.
I'm very selective about anynews that I listen to or read,
because I don't.
I don't want anybody else'sopinion or spin on anything, I
just want to know.
So there's a war in Ukraine, Iknow that, and there are people
(39:48):
getting awards for things thatthey do.
I know that I don't you know,like I don't have to, I don't
need to be very specific onanything that just doesn't, that
I'm not that interested in,because so people can say, well
then, you're just, you're nothelping either because you're
not really being attentive tothe specifics of what's
(40:10):
happening in this world.
I'm very attentive.
I'm just not attentive to thenegativity.
I'm attentive to how do I likeit to be, what is working out in
this world, what could go wellfor us.
That's what I'm giving myairtime to.
What do I like?
Where is the beauty?
Speaker 3 (40:28):
Where is the honey?
I love that phrase, I love thatphrase.
Speaker 1 (40:35):
You know.
What's funny about that is youknow.
So everybody that listens tothis podcast knows that I talk
about finding the honey.
Where's the honey?
There's honey in everything,even the things that we want to
call bad.
So I had a client here not thatlong ago and my office is just
off of the kitchen, so there's adoor that opens into the
kitchen.
(40:55):
The door was open.
I didn't bother.
I usually shut it, but I didn'tfor whatever reason.
She was sitting with her backto that door and I'm facing that
door across the table from her.
She's going through a bigbreakup.
So I was talking to her aboutthe honey you know and how to
find the honey through whatshe's experiencing, and
something caught my attention.
(41:16):
I looked up and under betweenlike my microwave and my stove.
I said to her there's abumblebee in my kitchen and she
said really.
She turned around and she saidyou were just talking about
honey.
I said I know that is reallyawesome.
So I got up and I said justhang on one sec.
(41:36):
I got up and walked into thekitchen and it was hovering up
to the ceiling at this point andI said hey, thank you.
I said that was just amazingtiming.
It was just.
Thank you so much for beinghere and letting us know that
you're paying attention.
And I'm talking to all ofcreation, not just the bee.
And I said so, follow me.
(41:59):
So now I'm talking to the beeat this point and I said so,
follow me.
And I walked over to the sinkthere's a window above the sink
and it followed me.
It came actually closer than Ireally expected it to because I
looked up and I thought it is sobeautiful.
It was like fuzzy and veryyellowish and it was just
beautiful and very calm.
And I opened the window and thescreen and I said I'm going to
(42:23):
open this window for you ifyou'd like to go out.
I don't know how you got inhere.
I have no clue how you got inhere.
If you would like to go out,the window's open.
If you want to stay, you'remore than welcome to stay it.
If you would like to go out,the window's open.
If you want to stay, you'remore than welcome to stay.
It was a little bit chilly out,but not too bad, so it was safe
to leave the window open as faras the cold goes.
And so I came in and I shut thedoor in my office just because I
(42:45):
didn't want my client to feellike there was potentially a bee
that was going to come upbehind her.
So I shut the door and I saiddo whatever you do.
So we went back and we finishedthe whole session and when we
got up we went out and the beewas gone.
I don't know if it went out thewindow or back into the ethers,
but it was gone and so we justwere.
It was just so fun.
And so I looked up after sheleft.
(43:08):
I looked up on my phone dobumblebees make honey?
And they do.
They don't make as much ashoneybees, they have a different
like.
They make enough, I guess fortheir tribe or whatever, and
they go underground, like notthat far underground I guess in
the winter, and the worker beesdie off and the queen bee comes
out and starts the whole newthing.
I guess she lays eggs orwhatever.
However, they do that.
(43:29):
So for that time of year theyshouldn't have, they shouldn't
have been out yet, like Ishouldn't have seen one yet.
But there she was, and not longafter that it was Easter Sunday
and we were sitting in mydining room and I have a big
window in my dining room.
That's where I feed the birdsand their little trees out there
, and I feed the squirrels, allmy little animals.
(43:51):
And my grandson said to me Mim,because they call me Mimi,
which has become Mim, becauseit's just quicker, mim, mim,
look, there's a bumblebeeoutside your window.
Speaker 2 (44:04):
And there is a
bumblebee outside my window.
Speaker 1 (44:07):
Now some of the
flowers have come out on some of
the trees and now every daywhen I look out there, there's
just tons of bumblebees aroundthe tree and just having their
good time with the flowers.
And what I've noticed is noneof them look like the one I saw
in my kitchen.
They're all like more blackthan they are yellow.
They're darker and I know forsure because that one came so
(44:31):
close.
It was just that fuzzy yellow.
So I haven't looked up enoughto see if that was a queen bee
or what you know.
I just think it's fun that nowbumblebees are all over the
place in my life because of thehoney, because of the honey.
And to me, you know, yeah, andthat's just validation that
we're being paid attention to.
You know, that's how subtlesource is Just a nice little
(44:54):
soft way to say, yeah, the honey, keep talking about that honey.
And here we are, we're righthere.
Can you see the bee?
We can influence this bee tocome and just be playful and
just give you a little sign thatwe're all in this together.
We're paying attention.
It's fun.
I love that story yeah, andthings like that happen all the
(45:17):
time.
You know, if you're justwilling to be easy and pay
attention and give these thingscredit, I mean, what do I?
Like I said I've lived in thishouse for 14 plus years.
I've never had a bumblebee inthe kitchen that I can remember,
especially that time of year.
And what timing.
I mean what timing.
I'm in this office a lot withthat door open, so what timing.
(45:41):
That Bumblebee was there justas I was talking about honey
with a new client, you can'tmake it up.
It doesn't get any better thanthat.
Yep, very cool.
Does a soul seem to have toomuch power over us?
Does another soul have morepower over another soul?
(46:04):
Is that what you mean?
Speaker 3 (46:06):
no oh, your soul our
soul over our physical body.
You know how you?
You said that the soul makes adecision whether to leave or to
stay, even though the body mightsay I have a concert next week,
I don't want to go.
Wow, you're going kind of likethat.
Does it have too much powerover our physical?
Speaker 1 (46:28):
body.
Well, yes and no, because itdoesn't have too much power.
It has the right amount ofpower.
It has the exact power that isperfect for every body and every
situation to make decisionshere from this perspective.
(46:52):
But it is always influencing it, it is always cheering it on,
guiding, helping to steer in asense, but is not, is not
overpowering.
Now, the death thing is goingto happen because your higher
(47:12):
self is going to make sure thateverything plays off beautifully
for that exit to happen,because that's just your plan,
that's agreed upon.
That's something that you made,if you might've forgotten,
because you get so dug in here,but you do want that to happen.
You get so dug in here, but youdo want that to happen Now.
(47:35):
With that said, if you have aconcert next week and you have
your tickets you paid your moneyyou want to go to the concert.
Your higher self is reallywanting you to go to the zoo
instead, because there's abetter experience at the zoo
than there is at that concert.
Your inner being will highlightthat, it will give you signs of
(47:56):
that.
It'll show you as best it canthat the zoo would be the better
experience, but you are stillfree to go to the concert.
And you know we all do this allof the time.
We override that guidance.
I still do it to this daysometimes and I think I knew
better like they.
I got that hit and I didn'ttake it Right.
I.
I knew better like they.
I got that hit and I didn'ttake it Right.
I.
I knew that that would be.
You know, you just get thatsense.
In little things too, it can be.
(48:22):
I just like today, I was at thestore, the grocery store, and I
was at the organic bananasection and I picked out some
bananas and I just felt like Iwanted to grab some for my
daughter and her kids.
I normally don't do that shedoes her own grocery shopping,
you know but I just wanted tograb a bunch of bananas for her
and I did.
And I talked to her just beforewe came on here and I said by
the way, I don't know if youneed them, but I picked you up
(48:44):
some bananas today at the storeand she said oh, yes, I
definitely need the bananas.
So it wasn't a big deal.
It's not the end of the earth,but it is in sync with that flow
.
It can be that simple and itcan be the things that we call
bigger decisions.
Now, if I had not picked upthose bananas and that was my
(49:06):
inner being saying you know,just give me that nudge, just
that thought, that feeling likeI just want to get some extra
bananas I didn't have to do it,though.
I could have my logic, couldhave said no, just get your own
bananas.
And that would have been fine.
Her life would have played outstill beautifully, my life would
continue.
You know, it wouldn't haveupset anything terribly, but it
(49:28):
just makes life so much easier.
It's just a nice flow and it'sa validation of that was my
intuition.
That was my inner being sayingit would be good for you to grab
some extra bananas.
Your inner being, your higherself, your soul, is not going to
overpower what you're doinghere, because it's a co-creative
(49:53):
, beautiful, synchronizedprocess.
That's happening.
There's no need to overpoweranything.
Speaker 2 (49:55):
Well, sharon, were
you asking, sort of like, you
want to go to the concert nextweek but your soul says no,
you're making your exit tomorrow, you're not going to make the
concert.
Is that what you were kind ofasking?
Speaker 1 (50:14):
Yeah, it's still you
and that's why the bigger
percentage of you is notphysically focused, because that
bigger part of you has to lookout for this part of you who is
in this limited understanding,limited memory, limited knowing,
and will help you get to themile markers that you wanted to
(50:37):
get to, will help guide you.
And just you know, you as asoul, know yourself so well, you
know what tricks will workright.
Sharon's inner self knows howto get this Sharon to where it
would be really important to be,and death is one of those
things you know.
If you watch really watchanybody's death experience, it
(51:01):
is perfectly synchronized forthem.
The players that don't show upthat normally would have shown
up.
There's no wrong thing aboutthat.
That's not out of sync, that'sin sync.
You know, I always use somethinglike 9-11 as an example.
There are people who would havebeen in that building normally
that were not there that day.
(51:21):
There were people who normallywould not have been there that
were there, you know, and that'show well synchronized the means
of exits are for all of us.
So it's not your higher selfsaying sorry, sharon, I know you
wanted to make that concert,but too bad, I'm taking you out
of the game.
It's your inner being saying goahead, plan the concert.
(51:43):
I mean you're not going to makethe concert, but go ahead and
plan.
It's nice to think about.
You can buy the tickets becausethat's just one of those things
that's going to get you.
You know you're busy thinkingabout the concert, so you're not
paying attention to the factthat the exit is coming and
that's why I don't think weshould really worry about our
our exit, because we're welltaken care of and the and.
(52:06):
The more ease you have aboutthat, the sweeter your exit's
going to be, because you're notcalling in the rough withdrawal.
Speaker 2 (52:16):
Interesting.
Speaker 3 (52:17):
I think if you knew
when your exit was going to be,
you'd be worried about that,maybe a year or two before it
even you know was going tohappen, where you could just go
clear up to the time of yourexit and be happy-go-lucky and
enjoy your life whatever, yeah,exactly, we would be too focused
on it.
Speaker 1 (52:38):
Uh-huh, you know how
can you pay attention to what
you're doing here if you knowyour clock's ticking?
Speaker 2 (52:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (52:44):
Which it is ticking
for all of us.
We just don't know when thealarm's going to go off, and
that's a really good thing.
It's just like pregnancy, youknow, we know pregnancy lasts so
many weeks, but we don't knowfor sure when that baby's coming
.
It happens in perfect timing.
So we come in in perfect timing, even if it doesn't seem like
(53:07):
it to the human people, and weleave in perfect timing even if
it doesn't seem like it to thehuman people, and we leave in
perfect timing even if itdoesn't seem like it to humans.
In one of the podcasts, I thinkit was Kim who said in order to
understand someone's death, youhave to understand or take a
look at their life.
And I told her after I't youdidn't realize how profound that
(53:29):
was.
That was really deep andcorrect, because if you under,
if you look at someone's deathexperience and then you look if
you knew their life experience,you can connect a lot of dots to
how that all played out.
For that person.
Speaker 2 (53:49):
Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 3 (53:52):
Yeah, I really liked
that person.
Yeah, I agree.
Yeah, I really like thatpodcast.
Speaker 1 (53:55):
I mean.
Speaker 3 (53:56):
I like all your
podcasts, but I mean, I really
like that one a lot yeah.
Speaker 1 (54:00):
Well, thank you.
I appreciate that.
I'm sure Kim does too.
Speaker 2 (54:03):
Absolutely.
She did such a great job oftelling the story.
It was great.
Speaker 1 (54:08):
And that's what's
funny, you know, know like
everybody's nervous before theycome on here, but once we get
talking, once we just get thatinitial flow going, this is not
hard, is it?
Speaker 3 (54:22):
I.
I just feel so much like we'reback in class.
I feel like tammy and I arelike those two little chipmunks
on the cartoons way back in the60s.
We still do that that's funny.
Speaker 1 (54:44):
So we covered it all
for now.
There's always going to be more, so I want to give a little
shout out to everybody out thereand just tell you how much I
appreciate I mean, I see theareas that everybody's listening
from, whether it's in thiscountry, different countries,
and if any of you want to joinme on the show, you're more than
(55:05):
welcome to talk to me about it.
I'm really particular, but I amreally open to any of you that
have questions or if you've hada spiritual experience that you
don't understand or you wantsome help with, or you had a
near-death experience orwhatever.
Run it past me.
We may be able to do it and itdoesn't take a lot.
(55:25):
Sharon and Tammy are not techsavvy, am I right?
Right, right, sharon and Tammyare not tech savvy, am I right?
Right, right.
And we have made this workpretty easily and I want to
thank you both specifically.
You got this started withguests coming on the show and
everybody's just loved both ofyou, as like I do, and your
questions, so I really doappreciate you both coming back
(55:47):
on again, especially.
Speaker 2 (55:49):
Thanks, Rebecca.
Speaker 1 (55:50):
Keep your questions
coming Will do.
I really appreciate you bothand all of you out there.
If any of you would likepersonal direction, or keep your
ears and eyes open because I'mgoing to offer the tarot series
pretty soon.
So I'm looking forward to that,yeah, the whole thing made easy
.
Um, so I'm looking forward tothat.
(56:11):
Yeah, the whole thing made easy.
But until then, or until nexttime, you can find me at
mystical truthscom.