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May 19, 2025 9 mins

In this short debrief episode, Jerome and Julienne reflect on a powerful moment from their recent conversation with leadership expert Kevin Eikenberry. They explore how a single piece of advice or a simple question—delivered at just the right time—can shape the way we lead, communicate, and relate to others.

Key Themes

  • The lasting impact of simple, profound questions
  • Mentorship moments that shape leadership philosophy
  • The importance of asking, not assuming
  • Why answers aren’t always as powerful as the right questions
  • The role of listening and pausing in group dynamics and storytelling

Standout Quotes
“How do you want to be received by your audience, and how do you want them to receive you?” – Robert Dickman (via Julienne)

“You’re a giant tractor moving a pebble. Simplify, simplify, simplify.” – Bob Fitzpatrick (via Jerome)

“The answers are in the room. They’ll surface if we give people a pause.” – Julienne Ryan

“It’s not about having all the answers—it’s about the questions you ask.”

Mentioned in This Episode

Robert Dickman – storytelling consultant and author

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