January 6, 2025 • 47 mins
Rebekah Barsotti was a compassionate and adventurous young woman whose life was tragically cut short under troubling circumstances. On July 20, 2021, she vanished near the Clark Fork River in Montana, leaving behind a trail of unanswered questions and a family desperate for justice. Months before her disappearance, Rebekah had escaped a turbulent marriage marked by domestic violence, determined to rebuild her life.
Her remains were discovered nearly a year later, but conflicting autopsy findings and mishandled evidence have left her loved ones searching for clarity. Despite troubling details pointing to her estranged husband, David Barsotti, authorities ruled out foul play, leaving Rebekah’s family to navigate an uphill battle for accountability and answers.
Rebekah’s story is a stark reminder of the challenges survivors of domestic violence face, even after they seek safety. Her family’s relentless pursuit of justice highlights the urgent need for reform in how these cases are handled.
Help keep Rebekah’s memory alive by sharing her story, raising awareness about domestic violence, and demanding justice for Rebekah and other victims. If you have any information, contact the Mineral County Sheriff’s Office or CrimeStoppers. Together, we can ensure Rebekah’s legacy inspires change.
Mineral County Sheriff's Office at 406-822-3555 or CrimeStoppers at 406-721-4444
Follow Rebekah's Legacy: https://rebekahslegacy.com/
https://www.facebook.com/RebekahsLegacyJusticeForRebekah/about
Her remains were discovered nearly a year later, but conflicting autopsy findings and mishandled evidence have left her loved ones searching for clarity. Despite troubling details pointing to her estranged husband, David Barsotti, authorities ruled out foul play, leaving Rebekah’s family to navigate an uphill battle for accountability and answers.
Rebekah’s story is a stark reminder of the challenges survivors of domestic violence face, even after they seek safety. Her family’s relentless pursuit of justice highlights the urgent need for reform in how these cases are handled.
Help keep Rebekah’s memory alive by sharing her story, raising awareness about domestic violence, and demanding justice for Rebekah and other victims. If you have any information, contact the Mineral County Sheriff’s Office or CrimeStoppers. Together, we can ensure Rebekah’s legacy inspires change.
Mineral County Sheriff's Office at 406-822-3555 or CrimeStoppers at 406-721-4444
Follow Rebekah's Legacy: https://rebekahslegacy.com/
https://www.facebook.com/RebekahsLegacyJusticeForRebekah/about
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
They do have wild horses that are roaming, probably not
right there in Missoula, but out in the wilds of
Montana there are still wild horses there. While she was there,
she did take a couple of jobs. They were primarily
waitress and bartending jobs at local restaurants. She really wanted
to be a burn manager because of her love for
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horses and animals, but unfortunately.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
That just and a life that should have been filled
with promise. Her story is one of resilience, domestic violence,
and unanswered questions. I'm Melissa and I'm Whitney.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Rebecca was born on December twenty eighth, nineteen eighty seven,
in Fredericksburg, Virginia, but she was raised in part Low,
Virginia by her parents, Ralph Rose Junior and Angela Mastrovito,
alongside her older brother, Antonio Alatore. Rebecca's childhood was filled
with warmth and adventure. She loved the outdoors, which became
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a lifelong passion growing up. Angela homeschooled her and she
was very integrated with the homeschool community. She would always
find meetups or connect with other homeschooled children to learn
new skills or talents like art and Forage. For those
who don't know, FOURH is a youth organization that teaches
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hands on learning skills for kids between five and nineteen
years old. There's a lot of different branches of it,
but it teaches everything from leadership skills, community service to
agricultural aspects like growing plants and raising animals. I was
a four age kid.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
It was not a fourage kid, but my school did
have it. I did take like an AG class a
couple of times, and it was funny because that was
actually in California before I moved to Oklahoma, which you
wouldn't think, but my town actually had more cows than
it had humans in California.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
FOURH is the extracurricular activity, whereas FFA and AG was
with the high school. That's a school class. This is
completely separate, a completely separate organization. So it's like a
Girl Scouts Boy Scouts campfire, but for agricultural base it's okay.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
I was thinking four H was like a lead up
in two FFA, but they're just two separate things.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Similar ideas, different organizations. Gotcha. Rebecca loved horses and really
all animals. She participated in some of the equestrian events
in four ah and then later when she got a
little older, she did the shooting and archery events. Because
she was homeschooled, Rebecca was able to graduate early. She
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was able to test out of two grades and finished
high school at sixteen years old. From there, she started
taking college classes at Germanic Community College, and she grew
up quickly in the academic sense, but not so much
in the social sense. Obviously, at sixteen years old, that's
a very young age to set out on your own.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Yeah, definitely. So yeah, academically she had all the tools
that she needed, but not necessarily the socialization and the
maturity she might not have had quite yet.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
But she was an extremely hard worker. She held a
variety of different jobs, including everything from working at a
jewelry store to being a server at a restaurant called
Cheeseburger in Paradise, which is probably the funniest name I've
ever heard.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
I do absolutely love that.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
I hope it has a Miami Vice theme for some reason,
that's what I thought of, a cheeseburger with a palm tree.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Yes, and this is up north, and it would be
like eclectic, because that's not typically what they would have exactly.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
When Rebecca was seventeen, she tragically lost her grandfather, and
Angela said she took it pretty hard. She realized that
life is fleeting and she wanted to explore the nation.
So her and a friend struck out towards Idaho to
become snowboard instructors because they had done it in Virginia
and it was a skill set they already had.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
I absolutely love that. Just to be young and just
randomly to decide I'm just gonna go be a snowboard instructor.
I think that's amazing. And I just missed.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Being young to have that sense of adventure and to
do it, to take the risk and just be brave
and courageous and do it is amazing.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
That's super scary, even being young. Just yeah, that's awesome.
It's one thing talking about it. It's a whole nother
thing actually planting it out in doing it.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
The season hadn't started yet though, once they made it
to Idaho, because that's obviously a very seasonal activity, they
hadn't started yet, so they ended up kind of tracking
back a little bit and landed in Missoula, Montana, Okay.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
For no particular reason, just kind of.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
Rebecca and her coworker chose Missoula at the suggestion of
the locals there in Sandpoint, Idaho. Missoula has like the
University of Montana there, and thetmosphere was a college town,
so she would fit in because there's lots of younger
people there, and she just honestly really loved the beauty
of Montana. It is an outdoor sea place. It is
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absolutely stunning. If you've never been to Montana, I highly
recommend it. But Angela told me that the reason they
went back to Missoula was based on that suggestion from
the locals there in Idaho.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
So this is two thousand and seven now, and she
is eighteen years old. She's settled down in Montana. She's
drawn to these mountains and the sense of adventure that
the state really promised. And I'm sorry if you even
just thinking about Montana, I'm like, yes, that's adventure. I
just think of wild horses. I don't know if they're there.
I've never been to Montana. I've never even seen a
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wild horse, but that's what I think of.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
They do still have wild horses that kind of roam
throughout Montana, probably not right there in Missoula, because that
is a little bit more of an urban area, but
in the wilds of the state, there are still quite
a few herds that run throughout the state. While she
was in Missoula and Montana, Rebecca got a couple of
different jobs. Most of them were waitress or bartender gigs
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at local restaurants. She really really wanted to be a
barn manager, but unfortunately that just never happened. She wasn't
given that opportunity, even though she really wanted to be
around horses and have that experience. Rebecca met David Barsotti
at the river, which sounds like a Hallmark movie meet
cute and I can just picture it Montana, this beautiful
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glass river, maybe with some fish in it. People hanging out,
just relaxing over by the river, some people fishing, some
people just chilling some music. I can see it. It's
a Hallmark movie, right, Yes.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
And then her dog running over to him and that's
how they meet.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Yes, Yeah, And I don't know exactly how they met,
it's unknown, but the two struck up a relationship and
began dating. David at the time worked in the oil
field and he had one of those schedules where he'd
be gone for a couple of weeks, back for a week,
gone for a couple weeks, which is already super stressful
on a relationship. If you're not used to those long
periods of absence, it can create strain that isn't normally there.
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Melissa and I've talked a lot about this. With being
a military wife, she dealt with being alone a lot,
and I don't think I could handle it because I'm
pretty sure Jeff and I have only spent one week
apart from each other since I started dating him eighteen
years ago, and I think I was with you during
that week. I had my other companion with me. So
I don't know how people do it for extended periods
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of time.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
It's definitely something you get used to, and now I'm like,
that's how our marriage has lasted oh long.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
And that's the secret. Guys.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Yes, and it makes the heart go for it really does.
It gives you time to miss them, but definitely in
those first few years when it's new, it's very difficult. Agreed.
So David was also a disabled veteran who had served
briefly in the Marines. David wore an ipatch due to
this combat related injury.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
This is where things get a little interesting because David
was a proclaimed disabled veteran, and apparently he was very,
very convincing. This is just a ten bit of information
to hold on to for later, because he was very
convincing and he was very manipulative that he was able
to fool many people to believe that he was a
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disabled veteran.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
The two ended up eloping and were married on September third,
twenty fifteen, at the Missoula Courthouse. While he was known
for his involvement in the veterans affairs and the community,
he was always helping out different veterans with whatever they
happened to need, their relationship was definitely troubled.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
It's interesting that the two eloped. Angela said the Times
that she had talked to Rebecca, she hadn't got to
meet David. At this point. They said they were getting married,
and then it was like, Oh, we're looking at this
farm to get married on. Oh, so and so has
a farm that we want to get married on. We're planning.
Its supposed to be this big event. And then next
thing she knew, it went from we're getting married to
we're married, and oh wow. It was just very sudden
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in Angela's opinion. She also knew that there may have
been some rocky moments because when Rebecca had visited her
in Virginia in twenty sixteen, she stayed for about a
month and had confided in her that you were having problems.
She even told her brother that at one point David
shot the television while Rebecca was watching it. But Angela
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didn't learn about this until years later and when it
all came out, and we'll understand a little bit more
about this sharing more of Rebecca's story. David claims to
have had some form of PTSD, and you see that
a lot in veterans. So is this a reaction to that,
not justifying any behaviors, but he has at least self
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proclaimed PTSD, so lashing out is a common symptom.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Most definitely, I want to put a little disclaimer in
here if you are having an abusive relationship like this,
while your dating, marriage will not make it any better.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
There were times when Rebecca would call her mom randomly
saying that David had kicked her out at night, and
she would either get a hotel with an emergency credit
card of Angela's that she had allowed Rebecca to hold
on to, or if it was too late to warrant
the cost of a hotel, she would sleep in her truck.
This happened on again and off again, and they seemed
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to always work it out, and it wasn't something that
was scheduled or Angela even said, it wasn't necessarily cyclical,
like you couldn't count, okay, if things are starting to
get bad, here it comes, and prepare for it. It was
just very ram The two also would move around Montana
a little bit. They didn't have necessarily a stable address,
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but they did have a po box, so Angela didn't
even really know which city they were in at the
time because they hopped around for a bit. And Angela
still hasn't met David up until twenty nineteen when she
took a trip to Montana to visit, so they had
already been married for almost four years at this point
when she finally met him for the first time, and
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the reasons behind it were understandable. It seemed like there
was never really good time. Maybe their schedules didn't match up,
or David had a surgery, or he wasn't feeling well
or something along those lines, and they could never really
make it work. For four years and time goes fast,
so I understand, really it does.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
And if Rebecca's going back to Virginia, then why would
the mom really go back out And they could have
had more difficult schedules they couldn't get time off, So
I totally understand that it's sometimes hard travel.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
While she was there, Angela talked about how Rebecca tried
to get her to take a foster dog or a
rescue dog that they had home with her to adopt,
and she didn't. But about a month after this visit,
Rebecca made the trip back to Virginia to deliver a
dog that Angela would ultimately adopt. So she's back in Virginia,
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and while she's there, she confessed to her mom that
David had hired her as his paid caregiver because of
his disabled veteran status. And I think you see this
a lot where the VA pays for a caregiver, and
that's a way that your spouse can make an income
by caring for you. So I don't think that's strange either,
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but I think it adds a level of control.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Oh, I completely agree. Yeah, it's definitely not out of
the norm that someone they know when trust becomes their caregiver.
But yeah, so now she's making money, but she's also
with him twenty four to seven as well and having
essentially work for him.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
After this revelation and after this visit, the calls from
Rebecca started coming more frequently, saying that David's kicking me
out again. And this was every three months or so
that these calls are starting to come in. In March
of twenty twenty, the two purchased a home, but by
June of twenty twenty they were planning on splitting, so
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things were definitely worse than rocky.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
So now we're at March ninth of twenty twenty one.
There are definite cracks in Rebecca's marriage and it started
to be known, especially when police responded to a domestic
violence call at the couple's home. David was arrested and
he was charged with assault.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
With these charges, David was supposed to spend a few
nights in jail, but after twenty four hours he was
able to bond out.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
In a nine to one to one call that I
have heard, Rebecca states that David told her he was
going to shoot her hands off so she could never
call the police again. He would also say that he's
going to kill her dog. When police arrived that night,
they found David fully dressed, hiding under his blankets in
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the primary bedroom with guns on him. When asked about
what he had said to Rebecca, he initially denied saying
anything about harming her, but then claimed that he must
have blacked out because he had no recollection of any
of these events. But while in jail, Rebecca made this
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courageous decision to finally leave David for good. She moved
out of their marital home with her dog, and she
moved about an hour away. She was looking for this
fresh start away from the violence and uncertainty, and now
she probably wouldn't be kicked out every couple of months.
She had a Belgian balinoa named Cerberus, her constant companion.
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This dog went everywhere with her. She was absolutely in
love with him.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
And not only did she love animals, she was great
at working with them. She was a really good dog trainer,
and in fact, she trained Cerberus to be her protector,
which if anyone knows what a Belgian Malinoi is, they're
naturally protective anyway dogs. That's why they're police canine dogs.
Is they're very protective. They're very obedient and very loyal,
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so she really leaned into him. Another situation that we
have run into while researching a lot of these domestic
violence cases is his threats toward killing her dogs. That
is a manipulation technique. So many times abusers threaten harm
on a loved one, a pet, and that's just a
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way to control you, to keep you in the situation,
because we don't want them to harm something you love.
This saying he would kill her dog, it tracks with
all this other behavior. It's very common.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
It's whatever that person loves the most, that's what they
want to take away, and it's absolutely vile.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
Rebecca was obviously still nervous, even though she chose to
move away, and she chose to leave, and she had
the courage to step away. Angela would find a video
on Rebecca's phone from the day after this call till
nine one one of Rebecca getting the gun out of
her vehicle and directing Cerberus to quote clear the house. Remember,
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Rebecca was a very good dog trainer, and she had
trained Cerberus in personal protection. The video that she took
was her clearing the house, going room to room with
her gun and her dog. Continually telling him, let be safe,
watch out, be careful. I believe that she took these
videos because she feared for her life and wanted evidence.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
Agreed, and how horrible it is to have to live
that way, to be scared to walk into your own home.
Things were going well for a few months. Rebecca got
a new job she loved at an upscale wine bar,
and she was healing. That was until one hot summer
day in July. A family in the area on vacation
had spotted sunglasses, dog, leash, callar, credit card, and Rebecca's
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driver's license on the shorelines of Clark Fork River along
Interstate ninety. Seeing no sign of Rebecca or her dog,
they called nine to one to one and reported a
missing person. The Montana Highway Patrol responded to the call
and found her car, also at that rest stop. An
investigation immediately began, and they learned that Rebecca was last
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seen on July twentieth, twenty twenty one, at a gas
station in Superior, Montana, around two fifteen pm. She had
met up with one of David's caregivers to get a
few pieces of her belongings. Since David was supposed to
have no contact with her. This is why these arrangements
were made with the caregiver to meet up. The police
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showed up at David's house asking about Rebecca, he stated
he had no idea where she was. After they left,
he proceeded to contact Rebecca's mother by text and state, hey, mom,
the police they Rebecca's missing and tell me an old
fling allegedly made the nine to one one call.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
Here's the thing. They family finds her belongings and calls
nine to one one. And I believe it was five
thirty five, between five twenty and five thirty in the evening,
so we have a three hour window of she was
lasting at two fifteen. The phone call from nine one
one comes in around five twenty. That's to me a
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very short window in my opinion. Yeah, I agree. Angela
had already gone to bed that evening. She has a
pretty early bedtime, which same girl. She had gone to
bed and didn't see this alert come through until the
next morning when she did wake up and read it.
She immediately texted and attempted to call Rebecca multiple times.
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After receiving no answer, she called Rebecca's brother Tony to
ask him to reach out. Basically, saying, have you talked
to Rebecca lately? And he said, oh, it's been a
couple of weeks. And she said, do you think she
would answer if you called? And he said probably, so
he gives it a try. He also was unable to
make contact, so she asked him to contact Missoula Police
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Department and report her missing. Now, Angela was not aware
at this time that the individuals that had found the
items had also filed her report. She didn't know an
actual report had been filed. So now we have two
missing persons reports filed for Rebecca and this is around
noon the next day.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
David was texting with friends throughout the next few days,
letting a few know that Rebecca is dead and that
authorities found her dog. To see, there's been no such
thing happened. Nobody had found Rebecca at this point. Nobody
had found Serberus at this point, So the fact that
he is texting friends saying that they both died and
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that they had drowned in the river is very weird.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
There was a moment about three days after Rebecca disappeared
that law enforcement hosted a press conference stating that they
believed that something had happened to Rebecca in the water. Now,
it seems interesting that they came to this theory so quickly.
There were theories that they publicly put out there that
she was throwing sticks into the river and that Cerberus
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would chase after them and bring them back. I believe
at one point they even stated that Cerberus got caught
in the current and Rebecca jumped in to save him. Now,
there's no actual evidence of this to my knowledge, or
that we could find, except maybe some sticks on the
river bank. Law enforcement did do some searches, including scuba
teams and dogs trained to detect humans and water, but
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the media is a bit skewed here. Some reports say
that there was a recovery mission and that Rebecca was
still alive, while others were stating that Rebecca and Cerberus
were already deceased. But this is just within a couple
of days of Rebecca disappearing, so there's still a lot
of unknown happening. It just seemed as though the sheriff's
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office had already made their opinions and came to a
conclusion that they felt had happened without actually having the evidence.
It's also important to note that when law enforcement arrived,
the credit card and driver's license and sunglasses. All of
these items were perfectly laid out in a straight line,
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face up, not haphazardly thrown. Angela even stated that these
items were set out almost as if a ruler had
been used to place them side by side. That's how
perfectly straight they were. So if your theory is that
Sir Scott caught down current and she ran to jump
in after her beloved pet, you would think she would
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throw whatever items that she had on her to the
side haphazardly to save her dog, if it was even
on her body. But I know, when I'm laying on
a riverbed or beach or relaxing or playing fetch with
my dog, I don't lay out my credit card and
my driver's license in a perfectly neat line, face up
in the event the ice cream truck comes along or
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something like. That's not what you do. Why are these
all perfectly laid out?
Speaker 2 (22:31):
Yeah, that is extremely weird. I've never once laid anything out,
And if anything, you would want them not laid out
so people don't steal them if you stood up and
walked around, because obviously this is a place where others
go down by the river bed and do whatever they want.
So it's just very weird that it would be laid
out like that.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
I would lay it out if I was wanting someone
to find it.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
Oh, yes, most definitely.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
Yes, that's the only reason to have it out exactly.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
So. It would be days later that Cerberus, Rebecca's dog,
would be discovered deceased a few miles down. The investigation
into Rebecca's disappearance had been riddled with challenges. Despite extensive
searches near the Clark Fork River, police scaled back their
efforts just weeks after she went missing. They were sure
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she would be found in the area, and their statements
said they were ninety nine percent sure her dog most
likely got into trouble in the water. Then Rebecca, being
this amazing dog owner, jumped into the river to save him,
only to perish herself. Rebecca's mother and stepfather flew from
Virginia to Montana to help run searches. They actually lived
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in Montana for quite some time while they were trying
to locate their missing daughter. David and his attorney would
go to court for his domestic vieviolence and assault charges
from way back in March, and his attorney would argue
that because Rebecca didn't show up. That means no crime
was committed if she didn't have the decency to show
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up in court.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
And this is something that we have come across in
other cases we have covered just this season. It's that
constitutional right to face your accuser in court, which, yes,
that is your constitutional right, but in the instances of
domestic violence, I think a bigger picture needs to be
taken here. You aren't taking into consideration all of the
trauma and events leading up to it that could hinder
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a person's ability to appear in court. Agreed.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
It's absolutely mind boggling that this case would be thrown
out the domestic violence assault charges. However, no one was
allowed to even say that she didn't show up because
she was actually missing and presumed dead at this point,
so all the charges against David for what he did
to Rebecca were dropped. Hearing this, I just want to
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scream from the rooftops that this is not okay. He
had threatened to kill her, he had the police called
on him multiple times in the past for domestic violence
related issues, he was arrested for those issues, and now
his wife, the one going after him, winds up missing
and because she's missing. He gets led off on all crimes,
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absolutely insanely backwards type of belief like something has to
change within that.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
This is a.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Quote from the county attorney during his trial for the
domestic assault charges. According to the county attorney, the defendant
claims the defendant, being David, claims to have post traumatic
stress disorder and a traumatic brain injury which caused him
to trigger from her touch. Yet the evidence will show
he did not complete his military service, serving only four
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months eleven days in boot camp until receiving a stress
frection in his shoulder lifting weights. He then received an
entry level separation from the military. Yet on this evening,
the defendant told the Deputy Nobles he triggered due to
his extensive military career.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
So all of this, this giant ruse that he has
of being this decorated military veteran with PTSD and needing
these caregivers and being this upstanding military professional is a lie.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
Time ticks on and rewards were offered. Searches by ground,
water and air were conducted without any leads until nearly
ten months later, on May seventeenth of twenty twenty two,
Rebecca's remains were found by the river, ten miles downstream
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from where her dog was discovered. Her body had to
be identified through dental records, but the circumstances of her
death remain murky.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
When Rebecca's body was found on the seventeenth, she was
found in different clothing items than she was reportedly last
seen wearing. She was last seen in blue jeen shorts
and a cotton tank top. The body was found in
a sports bra with straight straps and black spandex shorts.
Now there's some confusion over this because the black straight
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straps would have shown on her shoulders with the tank
top the way the cut of the tank top was,
you would have been able to see it. I'm guessing
the tank top maybe racer back and anyone that knows
tank tops and sports bras you can kind of see them,
usually at a tank top. The other situation is that
it was ninety five degrees the day that Rebecca wa missing.
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Angela also says that Rebecca would not wear spandex shorts
out of the house, and she definitely wouldn't have worn
them under other shorts, especially not jean shorts. Those no
public rushoms. The rest area where the car was found,
it was like a small outhouse, and it just seems weird.
When did she change clothes from the last time she
was seen to what she was found in. That's another
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question for law enforcement. There was an article or interview
that I heard or read that said there was a
shirt found and that there was a footprint on the shirt,
and that there was other footprints, bootprints, et cetera on
the bank and around a lot of the items. When
Angela inquired about it, the police just said that they
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were made by the responding officers. And yet again, this
is a situation where law enforcement did not do a
great job of investigating. They did not close off the
area as a crime scene. They kind of trampled over everything,
and they immediately jumped into that theory of Rebecca jumped
into the river to save Cerberus, and they didn't take
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note of any evidence.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
So police were adamant that she had drowned and there
they had no evidence to say this had anything to
do with foul play, even though there was quite a
bit of circumstantial evidence that was pointing straight to her
strange husband. Two odutopsies yelding conflicting findings also occurred. The
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first suggested no water in her lungs, which doesn't necessarily
mean she did not drowned. I'm not scientific enough to
understand the ins and outs of this, because in my mind,
if you drowned, you have to have water in your lungs.
I thought, that's like.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
How it happens determined, But I'm also it also depends
on I would think the decomposition level, because I'm assuming
ten months later, there's a level of decomposition. Even in Montana,
where it gets really cold through the winter, she went
missing in July, which is very hot, and predation is
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a pretty big There's a lot of wild animal in Montana.
There's bear, there's a lot of predators that aren't just
human in Montana. And if she was in the water
this entire time, decomposition has happened. So maybe they didn't
find water in her lungs because of the state of decomposition. Yeah, yeah, maybe.
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I'm not trying to explain it away.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
I'm just I don't and I've heard this in more
than one case, how they didn't find water in their lungs,
and even if they found the body relatively quickly, I
don't understand that. But obviously I'm not a medical examiner
or even no side.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
I didn't go to school for fifteen years, so yes.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
So I'm just like, I don't know how that happens,
but it is a thing. You can drowned or so
I've heard, and not have water in your lungs.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
Angela also said that on the autopsy report that on
top of no water being in her lungs, they were
equally concerned that her sphenoid sinuses were reportedly dry. So
that leads even more questions of if this was an
accidental drowning or a drowning at all, why is everything
reportedly dry? Another point to discuss that is rather interesting.
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Wings of Hope search and Rescue team came to Montana
to help search in March of twenty two, and they
sat down with Angela and Rebecca's family and kind of
explained what is likely to happen when you're searching for
someone after that length of time, chances are you would
only find pieces of remains. And this is something that
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we discussed and we learned when we searched for Brandon Lawson.
After an amount of time, when you have items like
predation and just general nature, the chances of finding intact
remains is slim, so when they were able to find
Rebecca's body intact ten months later, they were incredibly shocked.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
One of the autopsies also noted tattoos that Rebecca didn't
even have.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
Yes, yes, how do you mess that up? Because you
either you got tats or you don't got tats.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
Yes, so there was something about orange stars on her foot,
but Rebecca only had a black tattoo and this wasn't
even stars, and it was actually on the opposite foot
of whatever they said, So of course this obviously seems
off as well. The second autopsy found no tattoos and
offered no conclusive cause of death. Now, not finding tattoos
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after someone has been a decomposing in a river for
ten months isn't crazy out there, even if she did
have tattoos. But the fact that this other one thought
she had a tattoo but it really wasn't, it's just
bizarre to me.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
And as a medical examiner, I would assume you could
tell the difference between a tattoo and a bruise and
bruising or contusions or other things that can happen to
your body from being transported down, like from exactly being
pushed down a river, Yeah, they should definitely know.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
So that second autopsy that said that there was no
conclusive cause of death. They stated that based on the investigation,
the circumstances seemed like it was a drowning. However, the
medical examinementer found no concrete evidence suggesting that or any
real other cause of death, so they were like, hey,
based on the investigation, it seems like this would be
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most plausible, but I can't really say that.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
After the first autopsy, the pathologists stated that drowning was
determined by the police and reported that to the state
crime lab. But it also incorrectly stated on this report
that Rebecca was last seen on the river and no
one saw her there. The police work on Rebecca's investigation
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is shoddy at best. Lots of mistakes that happened here.
There's more to discuss about this second autopsy as well.
So between the first autopsy and the second autopsy, the
body had not been frozen or preserved. It had been
triple bagged, which basically just accelerates decomposition and moisture. So
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when that happens, the second autopsy wasn't able to be
fully carried out because the decomposition continued and it just
made more issues than answers. Do we know what the
man who found Rebecca was saying?
Speaker 2 (34:35):
So he had did an interview with the radio station
after the fact, and he said police told him to
keep quiet about what he found about him finding Rebecca,
But he also stated he couldn't see any tattoos on
the remains. Now, I don't really know how closely he looked,
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and Rebecca was missing for ten and a half months
at this point, would it be difficult to find tattoos?
He said he sat there with her towards the river
bank for a little bit of time, waiting for police
to arrive. But I doubt he was staring at it
enough to find a tattoo in my opinion.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
Was he out fishing or hunting or how did he
come across the medu.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
I think he was fish out there fishing, yes, and
so that's how she was found. But he just said
he didn't see anything any type of tattoos. But so
I really don't know what to make about this whole
tattoo debacle and if it really even makes a difference.
It's just the fact that medical examiners, two different medical examiners,
had two different, very different reports on the situation, which.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
Almost makes you want a third autopsy performed because there's
no consistency here. It's all about corroboration, right, Okay, if
we've got two autopsies, there should be some similarities, but
it seems like there's some fairly different conclusions here, So
it's almost like you need a third to see who
matches up. One of them has to match. You couldn't
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have three different exactly.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
Someone had to have messed up, which I mean, yeah,
she didn't have a tattoo an orange tattoo that were stars,
so to me, that one is absolutely out of the world.
But before the autopsy information was even released, David had
Rebecca cremated.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
So okay, so that's also another red flag for law
enforcement because why have they released her body?
Speaker 2 (36:31):
Exactly? So, even though they were estranged and Rebecca was
going to divorce him as soon as she was legally
allowed to, it doesn't matter to authorities because as soon
as the remains were ready, or as soon as they
deemed them ready to be released to the family, they
gave it. All the decisions were David's, not her mom's
or anyone else's, which I'm like, what the heck, this
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seems I know a legal standpoint, it's black and white,
but there has to be a little wiggle room for
situations like this, right, Rebecca's mother did not have a
say in anything. They were not even allowed to identify
the body. When David refused to go do it. They
asked multiple times, let us be the ones to go
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identify her, and they were not permitted to do so.
Speaker 1 (37:18):
It's interesting that when he refused, they didn't accept the
next of ken, I don't. They went from okay, husband
says no, straight to dental records when you have a
willing participant.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
Yep, agreed. So, despite all of these strange circumstances and
this estranged relationship of David and Rebecca's, police ruled David
out as a suspect. I don't know how, and I
hope that they have more information. They should have more
information than obviously we do. But how do you just
rule someone out? So? I did hear that he had
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an alibi of being with some friends or something like that,
but I'm like, really friends, I need I.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
Solid Yeah, could be as confirmation of that with your
cell phone and video confirmation and exactly all those things.
I also believe there should be some sort of law
if you have a no contact rule against your spouse,
they shouldn't be allowed to make medical decisions for you.
I agree.
Speaker 2 (38:16):
I think that would which would be cremation, yes, exactly.
So finally the family and friends of Rebecca got word
that a search warrant on David's home was being conducted
in December of twenty twenty one. However, this did not
have anything to do with Rebecca's disappearance, but it was
for illegal firearms, so he would get into a little
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bit of trouble for that, but still really no answers
about what really happened to Rebecca ever surfaced.
Speaker 1 (38:48):
They didn't even know that they hadn't even found Rebecca
at that point, just they had they searched the house
for firearms, but they didn't know that she was deceased
because they hadn't found her yet, It's true, So what
were they looking for? Just more guns? They knew he
was a guns person because he had guns when they
found him under the blanket.
Speaker 2 (39:08):
So I wonder if it had something to do with
all of that domestic violent stuff that happened before, and
maybe he went on probation for I don't know. I
don't even know why he wasn't allowed to have guns.
Speaker 1 (39:19):
Now that we're talking this out, Angela did mention that
he was not supposed to have any firearms due to
those domestic violence charges against him, and that is kind
of where all this trouble stemmed from.
Speaker 2 (39:31):
Yes, one of David's good friends started recording phone conversations
with him because he noticed that David started to say
suspicious things when he was like really drunk or he
was on these pain medications, things that made this friend
start to consider the possibility that his longtime friend actually
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did something to Rebecca. At first, he never believed that
David could harm Rebecca at all. Then over time things
were coming out in these phone conversations, and so he
started to record them. I've listened to a few of them,
and let me say, David definitely has some mental health
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issues going on. He actually tried to get this friend
and this is on a recording that I listened to.
He tried to get this friend to burn down Rebecca's
mom's and stepdad's house at one point, and it's all
on this recording. So I don't know why he's not
charged for that as well. The friend played along with
it for a bit of time too, and I'm like,
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what is happening.
Speaker 1 (40:37):
I just want to point out good for this friend
for reaching out to Angela and telling her about all
of these. David made comments saying that the trailer they
were staying in was highly combustible, that he had threatened
to burn the trailer down and killed them and their dog,
which the dog is the one they adopted from Rebecca
and David, and that he's stating he could make it
look like an accident. Thankfully, Rebecca did follow police report.
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They did start kind of moving around from place to
place while they were in Montana, and of course they
did inform the landlord, but of course nothing was ever done.
The police report was buried. They honestly can't even find it.
At this time, Angela was telling me, it's just good
for that friend for bringing attention to Angela. From what
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I understand from Angela, she accepted David as her son.
She even though she hadn't met him, and even though
they had those issues, David called her mom and they
had a what seemed like a good relationship when the
two were together. She tried to be understanding and tried
accepted him. For him to be like, let's burn it
out and burn this bitch down. It's strange.
Speaker 2 (41:43):
It's so strange, and you can I believe it's YouTube
that you can find a lot of the recordings on,
and just hearing him rattle off is just it's crazy,
so frustratingly critical evidence was obviously mishandled or lost, with
raised serious questions about the investigations integrity. There's footage on
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YouTube about some type of meeting between and I couldn't
figure out what this meeting was. It's about ten or
so people where police are stated why they came to
the conclusion that they did, and it's Rebecca's mother asking
questions about how crappy the investigation was handled. It's almost
like a board meeting. It's in like a conference room.
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I don't know what time if it's just between them,
but it's all recorded. It's also on YouTube as well.
Speaker 1 (42:32):
Angela told me that this meeting was the county commissioner's
meeting for Mineral County, and she actually requested the meeting.
It happened on November twenty sixth of twenty one, and
she really just wanted to voice her opinions on how
this was handled.
Speaker 2 (42:48):
So what gets me is if they do deem this
an accidental drownding case closed now all the evidence in
paperwork should be free reigned to give to the family,
which includes her mother. However, police have kept this case
active and ongoing. How is it active and ongoing? If
you're saying it's an accidental drowning, it can't be both, sorry,
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cannot be today. Rebecca's family continues to seek answers. The
lack of clarity surrounding her death has left them heartbroken
and frustrated. They've hired private investigators and pathologists hoping to
uncover the truth. However, progress has been slow without cooperation
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from the law enforcement or new leads. Rebecca's story is
a stark reminder of the gaps in our justice system.
Cases involving domestic violence and missing persons deserve more attention
and care. We cannot let Rebecca's story be forgotten. If
you have any information about her case, please contact the
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Mineral County Sheriff's Office at four zero six eight two
two three five five five or crime Stoppers at four
zero six seven two one four four four four. Advocacy
starts with awareness Share Rebecca's story, support organizations helping domestic
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violence survivors, and demand accountability from law enforcement. Together, we
can push for justice for Rebecca and ensure her legacy
inspires change.
Speaker 1 (44:29):
Something that we touched on a little bit back in
October with it being Domestic Violence Awareness Month. Rebecca's mom, Angela,
started Rebecca's Legacy and it's not a nonprofit, but it
is an awareness movement and she pushes for domestic violence education.
She shares tools and tips and help helplines all the
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different things related to domestic violence and the advocacy related
to it. She was the one who actually inspired us
to take part of the domestic Violence back drive that
we did back in October. So I want to encourage
people to go follow Rebecca's Legacy and become a part
of it, start helping, start creating change and making noise
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about domestic violence and the changes that need to be
made in regards to all things related to spouse abuse
in general. We want to thank Angela for allowing us
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to share rebecca story. We are honored to announce that
Angela has been awarded a scholarship to attend the inaugural
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more families.
They do have wild horses that are roaming, probably not
right there in Missoula, but out in the wilds of
Montana there are still wild horses there. While she was there,
she did take a couple of jobs. They were primarily
waitress and bartending jobs at local restaurants. She really wanted
to be a burn manager because of her love for
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horses and animals, but unfortunately.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
That just and a life that should have been filled
with promise. Her story is one of resilience, domestic violence,
and unanswered questions. I'm Melissa and I'm Whitney.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Rebecca was born on December twenty eighth, nineteen eighty seven,
in Fredericksburg, Virginia, but she was raised in part Low,
Virginia by her parents, Ralph Rose Junior and Angela Mastrovito,
alongside her older brother, Antonio Alatore. Rebecca's childhood was filled
with warmth and adventure. She loved the outdoors, which became
(00:58):
a lifelong passion growing up. Angela homeschooled her and she
was very integrated with the homeschool community. She would always
find meetups or connect with other homeschooled children to learn
new skills or talents like art and Forage. For those
who don't know, FOURH is a youth organization that teaches
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hands on learning skills for kids between five and nineteen
years old. There's a lot of different branches of it,
but it teaches everything from leadership skills, community service to
agricultural aspects like growing plants and raising animals. I was
a four age kid.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
It was not a fourage kid, but my school did
have it. I did take like an AG class a
couple of times, and it was funny because that was
actually in California before I moved to Oklahoma, which you
wouldn't think, but my town actually had more cows than
it had humans in California.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
FOURH is the extracurricular activity, whereas FFA and AG was
with the high school. That's a school class. This is
completely separate, a completely separate organization. So it's like a
Girl Scouts Boy Scouts campfire, but for agricultural base it's okay.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
I was thinking four H was like a lead up
in two FFA, but they're just two separate things.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Similar ideas, different organizations. Gotcha. Rebecca loved horses and really
all animals. She participated in some of the equestrian events
in four ah and then later when she got a
little older, she did the shooting and archery events. Because
she was homeschooled, Rebecca was able to graduate early. She
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was able to test out of two grades and finished
high school at sixteen years old. From there, she started
taking college classes at Germanic Community College, and she grew
up quickly in the academic sense, but not so much
in the social sense. Obviously, at sixteen years old, that's
a very young age to set out on your own.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Yeah, definitely. So yeah, academically she had all the tools
that she needed, but not necessarily the socialization and the
maturity she might not have had quite yet.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
But she was an extremely hard worker. She held a
variety of different jobs, including everything from working at a
jewelry store to being a server at a restaurant called
Cheeseburger in Paradise, which is probably the funniest name I've
ever heard.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
I do absolutely love that.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
I hope it has a Miami Vice theme for some reason,
that's what I thought of, a cheeseburger with a palm tree.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Yes, and this is up north, and it would be
like eclectic, because that's not typically what they would have exactly.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
When Rebecca was seventeen, she tragically lost her grandfather, and
Angela said she took it pretty hard. She realized that
life is fleeting and she wanted to explore the nation.
So her and a friend struck out towards Idaho to
become snowboard instructors because they had done it in Virginia
and it was a skill set they already had.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
I absolutely love that. Just to be young and just
randomly to decide I'm just gonna go be a snowboard instructor.
I think that's amazing. And I just missed.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Being young to have that sense of adventure and to
do it, to take the risk and just be brave
and courageous and do it is amazing.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
That's super scary, even being young. Just yeah, that's awesome.
It's one thing talking about it. It's a whole nother
thing actually planting it out in doing it.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
The season hadn't started yet though, once they made it
to Idaho, because that's obviously a very seasonal activity, they
hadn't started yet, so they ended up kind of tracking
back a little bit and landed in Missoula, Montana, Okay.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
For no particular reason, just kind of.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
Rebecca and her coworker chose Missoula at the suggestion of
the locals there in Sandpoint, Idaho. Missoula has like the
University of Montana there, and thetmosphere was a college town,
so she would fit in because there's lots of younger
people there, and she just honestly really loved the beauty
of Montana. It is an outdoor sea place. It is
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absolutely stunning. If you've never been to Montana, I highly
recommend it. But Angela told me that the reason they
went back to Missoula was based on that suggestion from
the locals there in Idaho.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
So this is two thousand and seven now, and she
is eighteen years old. She's settled down in Montana. She's
drawn to these mountains and the sense of adventure that
the state really promised. And I'm sorry if you even
just thinking about Montana, I'm like, yes, that's adventure. I
just think of wild horses. I don't know if they're there.
I've never been to Montana. I've never even seen a
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wild horse, but that's what I think of.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
They do still have wild horses that kind of roam
throughout Montana, probably not right there in Missoula, because that
is a little bit more of an urban area, but
in the wilds of the state, there are still quite
a few herds that run throughout the state. While she
was in Missoula and Montana, Rebecca got a couple of
different jobs. Most of them were waitress or bartender gigs
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at local restaurants. She really really wanted to be a
barn manager, but unfortunately that just never happened. She wasn't
given that opportunity, even though she really wanted to be
around horses and have that experience. Rebecca met David Barsotti
at the river, which sounds like a Hallmark movie meet
cute and I can just picture it Montana, this beautiful
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glass river, maybe with some fish in it. People hanging out,
just relaxing over by the river, some people fishing, some
people just chilling some music. I can see it. It's
a Hallmark movie, right, Yes.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
And then her dog running over to him and that's
how they meet.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Yes, Yeah, And I don't know exactly how they met,
it's unknown, but the two struck up a relationship and
began dating. David at the time worked in the oil
field and he had one of those schedules where he'd
be gone for a couple of weeks, back for a week,
gone for a couple weeks, which is already super stressful
on a relationship. If you're not used to those long
periods of absence, it can create strain that isn't normally there.
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Melissa and I've talked a lot about this. With being
a military wife, she dealt with being alone a lot,
and I don't think I could handle it because I'm
pretty sure Jeff and I have only spent one week
apart from each other since I started dating him eighteen
years ago, and I think I was with you during
that week. I had my other companion with me. So
I don't know how people do it for extended periods
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of time.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
It's definitely something you get used to, and now I'm like,
that's how our marriage has lasted oh long.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
And that's the secret. Guys.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Yes, and it makes the heart go for it really does.
It gives you time to miss them, but definitely in
those first few years when it's new, it's very difficult. Agreed.
So David was also a disabled veteran who had served
briefly in the Marines. David wore an ipatch due to
this combat related injury.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
This is where things get a little interesting because David
was a proclaimed disabled veteran, and apparently he was very,
very convincing. This is just a ten bit of information
to hold on to for later, because he was very
convincing and he was very manipulative that he was able
to fool many people to believe that he was a
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disabled veteran.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
The two ended up eloping and were married on September third,
twenty fifteen, at the Missoula Courthouse. While he was known
for his involvement in the veterans affairs and the community,
he was always helping out different veterans with whatever they
happened to need, their relationship was definitely troubled.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
It's interesting that the two eloped. Angela said the Times
that she had talked to Rebecca, she hadn't got to
meet David. At this point. They said they were getting married,
and then it was like, Oh, we're looking at this
farm to get married on. Oh, so and so has
a farm that we want to get married on. We're planning.
Its supposed to be this big event. And then next
thing she knew, it went from we're getting married to
we're married, and oh wow. It was just very sudden
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in Angela's opinion. She also knew that there may have
been some rocky moments because when Rebecca had visited her
in Virginia in twenty sixteen, she stayed for about a
month and had confided in her that you were having problems.
She even told her brother that at one point David
shot the television while Rebecca was watching it. But Angela
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didn't learn about this until years later and when it
all came out, and we'll understand a little bit more
about this sharing more of Rebecca's story. David claims to
have had some form of PTSD, and you see that
a lot in veterans. So is this a reaction to that,
not justifying any behaviors, but he has at least self
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proclaimed PTSD, so lashing out is a common symptom.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Most definitely, I want to put a little disclaimer in
here if you are having an abusive relationship like this,
while your dating, marriage will not make it any better.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
There were times when Rebecca would call her mom randomly
saying that David had kicked her out at night, and
she would either get a hotel with an emergency credit
card of Angela's that she had allowed Rebecca to hold
on to, or if it was too late to warrant
the cost of a hotel, she would sleep in her truck.
This happened on again and off again, and they seemed
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to always work it out, and it wasn't something that
was scheduled or Angela even said, it wasn't necessarily cyclical,
like you couldn't count, okay, if things are starting to
get bad, here it comes, and prepare for it. It was
just very ram The two also would move around Montana
a little bit. They didn't have necessarily a stable address,
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but they did have a po box, so Angela didn't
even really know which city they were in at the
time because they hopped around for a bit. And Angela
still hasn't met David up until twenty nineteen when she
took a trip to Montana to visit, so they had
already been married for almost four years at this point
when she finally met him for the first time, and
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the reasons behind it were understandable. It seemed like there
was never really good time. Maybe their schedules didn't match up,
or David had a surgery, or he wasn't feeling well
or something along those lines, and they could never really
make it work. For four years and time goes fast,
so I understand, really it does.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
And if Rebecca's going back to Virginia, then why would
the mom really go back out And they could have
had more difficult schedules they couldn't get time off, So
I totally understand that it's sometimes hard travel.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
While she was there, Angela talked about how Rebecca tried
to get her to take a foster dog or a
rescue dog that they had home with her to adopt,
and she didn't. But about a month after this visit,
Rebecca made the trip back to Virginia to deliver a
dog that Angela would ultimately adopt. So she's back in Virginia,
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and while she's there, she confessed to her mom that
David had hired her as his paid caregiver because of
his disabled veteran status. And I think you see this
a lot where the VA pays for a caregiver, and
that's a way that your spouse can make an income
by caring for you. So I don't think that's strange either,
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but I think it adds a level of control.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Oh, I completely agree. Yeah, it's definitely not out of
the norm that someone they know when trust becomes their caregiver.
But yeah, so now she's making money, but she's also
with him twenty four to seven as well and having
essentially work for him.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
After this revelation and after this visit, the calls from
Rebecca started coming more frequently, saying that David's kicking me
out again. And this was every three months or so
that these calls are starting to come in. In March
of twenty twenty, the two purchased a home, but by
June of twenty twenty they were planning on splitting, so
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things were definitely worse than rocky.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
So now we're at March ninth of twenty twenty one.
There are definite cracks in Rebecca's marriage and it started
to be known, especially when police responded to a domestic
violence call at the couple's home. David was arrested and
he was charged with assault.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
With these charges, David was supposed to spend a few
nights in jail, but after twenty four hours he was
able to bond out.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
In a nine to one to one call that I
have heard, Rebecca states that David told her he was
going to shoot her hands off so she could never
call the police again. He would also say that he's
going to kill her dog. When police arrived that night,
they found David fully dressed, hiding under his blankets in
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the primary bedroom with guns on him. When asked about
what he had said to Rebecca, he initially denied saying
anything about harming her, but then claimed that he must
have blacked out because he had no recollection of any
of these events. But while in jail, Rebecca made this
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courageous decision to finally leave David for good. She moved
out of their marital home with her dog, and she
moved about an hour away. She was looking for this
fresh start away from the violence and uncertainty, and now
she probably wouldn't be kicked out every couple of months.
She had a Belgian balinoa named Cerberus, her constant companion.
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This dog went everywhere with her. She was absolutely in
love with him.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
And not only did she love animals, she was great
at working with them. She was a really good dog trainer,
and in fact, she trained Cerberus to be her protector,
which if anyone knows what a Belgian Malinoi is, they're
naturally protective anyway dogs. That's why they're police canine dogs.
Is they're very protective. They're very obedient and very loyal,
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so she really leaned into him. Another situation that we
have run into while researching a lot of these domestic
violence cases is his threats toward killing her dogs. That
is a manipulation technique. So many times abusers threaten harm
on a loved one, a pet, and that's just a
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way to control you, to keep you in the situation,
because we don't want them to harm something you love.
This saying he would kill her dog, it tracks with
all this other behavior. It's very common.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
It's whatever that person loves the most, that's what they
want to take away, and it's absolutely vile.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
Rebecca was obviously still nervous, even though she chose to
move away, and she chose to leave, and she had
the courage to step away. Angela would find a video
on Rebecca's phone from the day after this call till
nine one one of Rebecca getting the gun out of
her vehicle and directing Cerberus to quote clear the house. Remember,
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Rebecca was a very good dog trainer, and she had
trained Cerberus in personal protection. The video that she took
was her clearing the house, going room to room with
her gun and her dog. Continually telling him, let be safe,
watch out, be careful. I believe that she took these
videos because she feared for her life and wanted evidence.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
Agreed, and how horrible it is to have to live
that way, to be scared to walk into your own home.
Things were going well for a few months. Rebecca got
a new job she loved at an upscale wine bar,
and she was healing. That was until one hot summer
day in July. A family in the area on vacation
had spotted sunglasses, dog, leash, callar, credit card, and Rebecca's
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driver's license on the shorelines of Clark Fork River along
Interstate ninety. Seeing no sign of Rebecca or her dog,
they called nine to one to one and reported a
missing person. The Montana Highway Patrol responded to the call
and found her car, also at that rest stop. An
investigation immediately began, and they learned that Rebecca was last
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seen on July twentieth, twenty twenty one, at a gas
station in Superior, Montana, around two fifteen pm. She had
met up with one of David's caregivers to get a
few pieces of her belongings. Since David was supposed to
have no contact with her. This is why these arrangements
were made with the caregiver to meet up. The police
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showed up at David's house asking about Rebecca, he stated
he had no idea where she was. After they left,
he proceeded to contact Rebecca's mother by text and state, hey, mom,
the police they Rebecca's missing and tell me an old
fling allegedly made the nine to one one call.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
Here's the thing. They family finds her belongings and calls
nine to one one. And I believe it was five
thirty five, between five twenty and five thirty in the evening,
so we have a three hour window of she was
lasting at two fifteen. The phone call from nine one
one comes in around five twenty. That's to me a
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very short window in my opinion. Yeah, I agree. Angela
had already gone to bed that evening. She has a
pretty early bedtime, which same girl. She had gone to
bed and didn't see this alert come through until the
next morning when she did wake up and read it.
She immediately texted and attempted to call Rebecca multiple times.
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After receiving no answer, she called Rebecca's brother Tony to
ask him to reach out. Basically, saying, have you talked
to Rebecca lately? And he said, oh, it's been a
couple of weeks. And she said, do you think she
would answer if you called? And he said probably, so
he gives it a try. He also was unable to
make contact, so she asked him to contact Missoula Police
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Department and report her missing. Now, Angela was not aware
at this time that the individuals that had found the
items had also filed her report. She didn't know an
actual report had been filed. So now we have two
missing persons reports filed for Rebecca and this is around
noon the next day.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
David was texting with friends throughout the next few days,
letting a few know that Rebecca is dead and that
authorities found her dog. To see, there's been no such
thing happened. Nobody had found Rebecca at this point. Nobody
had found Serberus at this point, So the fact that
he is texting friends saying that they both died and
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that they had drowned in the river is very weird.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
There was a moment about three days after Rebecca disappeared
that law enforcement hosted a press conference stating that they
believed that something had happened to Rebecca in the water. Now,
it seems interesting that they came to this theory so quickly.
There were theories that they publicly put out there that
she was throwing sticks into the river and that Cerberus
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would chase after them and bring them back. I believe
at one point they even stated that Cerberus got caught
in the current and Rebecca jumped in to save him. Now,
there's no actual evidence of this to my knowledge, or
that we could find, except maybe some sticks on the
river bank. Law enforcement did do some searches, including scuba
teams and dogs trained to detect humans and water, but
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the media is a bit skewed here. Some reports say
that there was a recovery mission and that Rebecca was
still alive, while others were stating that Rebecca and Cerberus
were already deceased. But this is just within a couple
of days of Rebecca disappearing, so there's still a lot
of unknown happening. It just seemed as though the sheriff's
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office had already made their opinions and came to a
conclusion that they felt had happened without actually having the evidence.
It's also important to note that when law enforcement arrived,
the credit card and driver's license and sunglasses. All of
these items were perfectly laid out in a straight line,
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face up, not haphazardly thrown. Angela even stated that these
items were set out almost as if a ruler had
been used to place them side by side. That's how
perfectly straight they were. So if your theory is that
Sir Scott caught down current and she ran to jump
in after her beloved pet, you would think she would
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throw whatever items that she had on her to the
side haphazardly to save her dog, if it was even
on her body. But I know, when I'm laying on
a riverbed or beach or relaxing or playing fetch with
my dog, I don't lay out my credit card and
my driver's license in a perfectly neat line, face up
in the event the ice cream truck comes along or
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something like. That's not what you do. Why are these
all perfectly laid out?
Speaker 2 (22:31):
Yeah, that is extremely weird. I've never once laid anything out,
And if anything, you would want them not laid out
so people don't steal them if you stood up and
walked around, because obviously this is a place where others
go down by the river bed and do whatever they want.
So it's just very weird that it would be laid
out like that.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
I would lay it out if I was wanting someone
to find it.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
Oh, yes, most definitely.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
Yes, that's the only reason to have it out exactly.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
So. It would be days later that Cerberus, Rebecca's dog,
would be discovered deceased a few miles down. The investigation
into Rebecca's disappearance had been riddled with challenges. Despite extensive
searches near the Clark Fork River, police scaled back their
efforts just weeks after she went missing. They were sure
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she would be found in the area, and their statements
said they were ninety nine percent sure her dog most
likely got into trouble in the water. Then Rebecca, being
this amazing dog owner, jumped into the river to save him,
only to perish herself. Rebecca's mother and stepfather flew from
Virginia to Montana to help run searches. They actually lived
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in Montana for quite some time while they were trying
to locate their missing daughter. David and his attorney would
go to court for his domestic vieviolence and assault charges
from way back in March, and his attorney would argue
that because Rebecca didn't show up. That means no crime
was committed if she didn't have the decency to show
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up in court.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
And this is something that we have come across in
other cases we have covered just this season. It's that
constitutional right to face your accuser in court, which, yes,
that is your constitutional right, but in the instances of
domestic violence, I think a bigger picture needs to be
taken here. You aren't taking into consideration all of the
trauma and events leading up to it that could hinder
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a person's ability to appear in court. Agreed.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
It's absolutely mind boggling that this case would be thrown
out the domestic violence assault charges. However, no one was
allowed to even say that she didn't show up because
she was actually missing and presumed dead at this point,
so all the charges against David for what he did
to Rebecca were dropped. Hearing this, I just want to
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scream from the rooftops that this is not okay. He
had threatened to kill her, he had the police called
on him multiple times in the past for domestic violence
related issues, he was arrested for those issues, and now
his wife, the one going after him, winds up missing
and because she's missing. He gets led off on all crimes,
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absolutely insanely backwards type of belief like something has to
change within that.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
This is a.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Quote from the county attorney during his trial for the
domestic assault charges. According to the county attorney, the defendant
claims the defendant, being David, claims to have post traumatic
stress disorder and a traumatic brain injury which caused him
to trigger from her touch. Yet the evidence will show
he did not complete his military service, serving only four
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months eleven days in boot camp until receiving a stress
frection in his shoulder lifting weights. He then received an
entry level separation from the military. Yet on this evening,
the defendant told the Deputy Nobles he triggered due to
his extensive military career.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
So all of this, this giant ruse that he has
of being this decorated military veteran with PTSD and needing
these caregivers and being this upstanding military professional is a lie.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
Time ticks on and rewards were offered. Searches by ground,
water and air were conducted without any leads until nearly
ten months later, on May seventeenth of twenty twenty two,
Rebecca's remains were found by the river, ten miles downstream
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from where her dog was discovered. Her body had to
be identified through dental records, but the circumstances of her
death remain murky.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
When Rebecca's body was found on the seventeenth, she was
found in different clothing items than she was reportedly last
seen wearing. She was last seen in blue jeen shorts
and a cotton tank top. The body was found in
a sports bra with straight straps and black spandex shorts.
Now there's some confusion over this because the black straight
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straps would have shown on her shoulders with the tank
top the way the cut of the tank top was,
you would have been able to see it. I'm guessing
the tank top maybe racer back and anyone that knows
tank tops and sports bras you can kind of see them,
usually at a tank top. The other situation is that
it was ninety five degrees the day that Rebecca wa missing.
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Angela also says that Rebecca would not wear spandex shorts
out of the house, and she definitely wouldn't have worn
them under other shorts, especially not jean shorts. Those no
public rushoms. The rest area where the car was found,
it was like a small outhouse, and it just seems weird.
When did she change clothes from the last time she
was seen to what she was found in. That's another
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question for law enforcement. There was an article or interview
that I heard or read that said there was a
shirt found and that there was a footprint on the shirt,
and that there was other footprints, bootprints, et cetera on
the bank and around a lot of the items. When
Angela inquired about it, the police just said that they
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were made by the responding officers. And yet again, this
is a situation where law enforcement did not do a
great job of investigating. They did not close off the
area as a crime scene. They kind of trampled over everything,
and they immediately jumped into that theory of Rebecca jumped
into the river to save Cerberus, and they didn't take
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note of any evidence.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
So police were adamant that she had drowned and there
they had no evidence to say this had anything to
do with foul play, even though there was quite a
bit of circumstantial evidence that was pointing straight to her
strange husband. Two odutopsies yelding conflicting findings also occurred. The
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first suggested no water in her lungs, which doesn't necessarily
mean she did not drowned. I'm not scientific enough to
understand the ins and outs of this, because in my mind,
if you drowned, you have to have water in your lungs.
I thought, that's like.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
How it happens determined, But I'm also it also depends
on I would think the decomposition level, because I'm assuming
ten months later, there's a level of decomposition. Even in Montana,
where it gets really cold through the winter, she went
missing in July, which is very hot, and predation is
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a pretty big There's a lot of wild animal in Montana.
There's bear, there's a lot of predators that aren't just
human in Montana. And if she was in the water
this entire time, decomposition has happened. So maybe they didn't
find water in her lungs because of the state of decomposition. Yeah, yeah, maybe.
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I'm not trying to explain it away.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
I'm just I don't and I've heard this in more
than one case, how they didn't find water in their lungs,
and even if they found the body relatively quickly, I
don't understand that. But obviously I'm not a medical examiner
or even no side.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
I didn't go to school for fifteen years, so yes.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
So I'm just like, I don't know how that happens,
but it is a thing. You can drowned or so
I've heard, and not have water in your lungs.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
Angela also said that on the autopsy report that on
top of no water being in her lungs, they were
equally concerned that her sphenoid sinuses were reportedly dry. So
that leads even more questions of if this was an
accidental drowning or a drowning at all, why is everything
reportedly dry? Another point to discuss that is rather interesting.
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Wings of Hope search and Rescue team came to Montana
to help search in March of twenty two, and they
sat down with Angela and Rebecca's family and kind of
explained what is likely to happen when you're searching for
someone after that length of time, chances are you would
only find pieces of remains. And this is something that
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we discussed and we learned when we searched for Brandon Lawson.
After an amount of time, when you have items like
predation and just general nature, the chances of finding intact
remains is slim, so when they were able to find
Rebecca's body intact ten months later, they were incredibly shocked.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
One of the autopsies also noted tattoos that Rebecca didn't
even have.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
Yes, yes, how do you mess that up? Because you
either you got tats or you don't got tats.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
Yes, so there was something about orange stars on her foot,
but Rebecca only had a black tattoo and this wasn't
even stars, and it was actually on the opposite foot
of whatever they said, So of course this obviously seems
off as well. The second autopsy found no tattoos and
offered no conclusive cause of death. Now, not finding tattoos
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after someone has been a decomposing in a river for
ten months isn't crazy out there, even if she did
have tattoos. But the fact that this other one thought
she had a tattoo but it really wasn't, it's just
bizarre to me.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
And as a medical examiner, I would assume you could
tell the difference between a tattoo and a bruise and
bruising or contusions or other things that can happen to
your body from being transported down, like from exactly being
pushed down a river, Yeah, they should definitely know.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
So that second autopsy that said that there was no
conclusive cause of death. They stated that based on the investigation,
the circumstances seemed like it was a drowning. However, the
medical examinementer found no concrete evidence suggesting that or any
real other cause of death, so they were like, hey,
based on the investigation, it seems like this would be
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most plausible, but I can't really say that.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
After the first autopsy, the pathologists stated that drowning was
determined by the police and reported that to the state
crime lab. But it also incorrectly stated on this report
that Rebecca was last seen on the river and no
one saw her there. The police work on Rebecca's investigation
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is shoddy at best. Lots of mistakes that happened here.
There's more to discuss about this second autopsy as well.
So between the first autopsy and the second autopsy, the
body had not been frozen or preserved. It had been
triple bagged, which basically just accelerates decomposition and moisture. So
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when that happens, the second autopsy wasn't able to be
fully carried out because the decomposition continued and it just
made more issues than answers. Do we know what the
man who found Rebecca was saying?
Speaker 2 (34:35):
So he had did an interview with the radio station
after the fact, and he said police told him to
keep quiet about what he found about him finding Rebecca,
But he also stated he couldn't see any tattoos on
the remains. Now, I don't really know how closely he looked,
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and Rebecca was missing for ten and a half months
at this point, would it be difficult to find tattoos?
He said he sat there with her towards the river
bank for a little bit of time, waiting for police
to arrive. But I doubt he was staring at it
enough to find a tattoo in my opinion.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
Was he out fishing or hunting or how did he
come across the medu.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
I think he was fish out there fishing, yes, and
so that's how she was found. But he just said
he didn't see anything any type of tattoos. But so
I really don't know what to make about this whole
tattoo debacle and if it really even makes a difference.
It's just the fact that medical examiners, two different medical examiners,
had two different, very different reports on the situation, which.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
Almost makes you want a third autopsy performed because there's
no consistency here. It's all about corroboration, right, Okay, if
we've got two autopsies, there should be some similarities, but
it seems like there's some fairly different conclusions here, So
it's almost like you need a third to see who
matches up. One of them has to match. You couldn't
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have three different exactly.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
Someone had to have messed up, which I mean, yeah,
she didn't have a tattoo an orange tattoo that were stars,
so to me, that one is absolutely out of the world.
But before the autopsy information was even released, David had
Rebecca cremated.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
So okay, so that's also another red flag for law
enforcement because why have they released her body?
Speaker 2 (36:31):
Exactly? So, even though they were estranged and Rebecca was
going to divorce him as soon as she was legally
allowed to, it doesn't matter to authorities because as soon
as the remains were ready, or as soon as they
deemed them ready to be released to the family, they
gave it. All the decisions were David's, not her mom's
or anyone else's, which I'm like, what the heck, this
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seems I know a legal standpoint, it's black and white,
but there has to be a little wiggle room for
situations like this, right, Rebecca's mother did not have a
say in anything. They were not even allowed to identify
the body. When David refused to go do it. They
asked multiple times, let us be the ones to go
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identify her, and they were not permitted to do so.
Speaker 1 (37:18):
It's interesting that when he refused, they didn't accept the
next of ken, I don't. They went from okay, husband
says no, straight to dental records when you have a
willing participant.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
Yep, agreed. So, despite all of these strange circumstances and
this estranged relationship of David and Rebecca's, police ruled David
out as a suspect. I don't know how, and I
hope that they have more information. They should have more
information than obviously we do. But how do you just
rule someone out? So? I did hear that he had
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an alibi of being with some friends or something like that,
but I'm like, really friends, I need I.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
Solid Yeah, could be as confirmation of that with your
cell phone and video confirmation and exactly all those things.
I also believe there should be some sort of law
if you have a no contact rule against your spouse,
they shouldn't be allowed to make medical decisions for you.
I agree.
Speaker 2 (38:16):
I think that would which would be cremation, yes, exactly.
So finally the family and friends of Rebecca got word
that a search warrant on David's home was being conducted
in December of twenty twenty one. However, this did not
have anything to do with Rebecca's disappearance, but it was
for illegal firearms, so he would get into a little
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bit of trouble for that, but still really no answers
about what really happened to Rebecca ever surfaced.
Speaker 1 (38:48):
They didn't even know that they hadn't even found Rebecca
at that point, just they had they searched the house
for firearms, but they didn't know that she was deceased
because they hadn't found her yet, It's true, So what
were they looking for? Just more guns? They knew he
was a guns person because he had guns when they
found him under the blanket.
Speaker 2 (39:08):
So I wonder if it had something to do with
all of that domestic violent stuff that happened before, and
maybe he went on probation for I don't know. I
don't even know why he wasn't allowed to have guns.
Speaker 1 (39:19):
Now that we're talking this out, Angela did mention that
he was not supposed to have any firearms due to
those domestic violence charges against him, and that is kind
of where all this trouble stemmed from.
Speaker 2 (39:31):
Yes, one of David's good friends started recording phone conversations
with him because he noticed that David started to say
suspicious things when he was like really drunk or he
was on these pain medications, things that made this friend
start to consider the possibility that his longtime friend actually
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did something to Rebecca. At first, he never believed that
David could harm Rebecca at all. Then over time things
were coming out in these phone conversations, and so he
started to record them. I've listened to a few of them,
and let me say, David definitely has some mental health
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issues going on. He actually tried to get this friend
and this is on a recording that I listened to.
He tried to get this friend to burn down Rebecca's
mom's and stepdad's house at one point, and it's all
on this recording. So I don't know why he's not
charged for that as well. The friend played along with
it for a bit of time too, and I'm like,
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what is happening.
Speaker 1 (40:37):
I just want to point out good for this friend
for reaching out to Angela and telling her about all
of these. David made comments saying that the trailer they
were staying in was highly combustible, that he had threatened
to burn the trailer down and killed them and their dog,
which the dog is the one they adopted from Rebecca
and David, and that he's stating he could make it
look like an accident. Thankfully, Rebecca did follow police report.
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They did start kind of moving around from place to
place while they were in Montana, and of course they
did inform the landlord, but of course nothing was ever done.
The police report was buried. They honestly can't even find it.
At this time, Angela was telling me, it's just good
for that friend for bringing attention to Angela. From what
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I understand from Angela, she accepted David as her son.
She even though she hadn't met him, and even though
they had those issues, David called her mom and they
had a what seemed like a good relationship when the
two were together. She tried to be understanding and tried
accepted him. For him to be like, let's burn it
out and burn this bitch down. It's strange.
Speaker 2 (41:43):
It's so strange, and you can I believe it's YouTube
that you can find a lot of the recordings on,
and just hearing him rattle off is just it's crazy,
so frustratingly critical evidence was obviously mishandled or lost, with
raised serious questions about the investigations integrity. There's footage on
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YouTube about some type of meeting between and I couldn't
figure out what this meeting was. It's about ten or
so people where police are stated why they came to
the conclusion that they did, and it's Rebecca's mother asking
questions about how crappy the investigation was handled. It's almost
like a board meeting. It's in like a conference room.
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I don't know what time if it's just between them,
but it's all recorded. It's also on YouTube as well.
Speaker 1 (42:32):
Angela told me that this meeting was the county commissioner's
meeting for Mineral County, and she actually requested the meeting.
It happened on November twenty sixth of twenty one, and
she really just wanted to voice her opinions on how
this was handled.
Speaker 2 (42:48):
So what gets me is if they do deem this
an accidental drownding case closed now all the evidence in
paperwork should be free reigned to give to the family,
which includes her mother. However, police have kept this case
active and ongoing. How is it active and ongoing? If
you're saying it's an accidental drowning, it can't be both, sorry,
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cannot be today. Rebecca's family continues to seek answers. The
lack of clarity surrounding her death has left them heartbroken
and frustrated. They've hired private investigators and pathologists hoping to
uncover the truth. However, progress has been slow without cooperation
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from the law enforcement or new leads. Rebecca's story is
a stark reminder of the gaps in our justice system.
Cases involving domestic violence and missing persons deserve more attention
and care. We cannot let Rebecca's story be forgotten. If
you have any information about her case, please contact the
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Mineral County Sheriff's Office at four zero six eight two
two three five five five or crime Stoppers at four
zero six seven two one four four four four. Advocacy
starts with awareness Share Rebecca's story, support organizations helping domestic
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violence survivors, and demand accountability from law enforcement. Together, we
can push for justice for Rebecca and ensure her legacy
inspires change.
Speaker 1 (44:29):
Something that we touched on a little bit back in
October with it being Domestic Violence Awareness Month. Rebecca's mom, Angela,
started Rebecca's Legacy and it's not a nonprofit, but it
is an awareness movement and she pushes for domestic violence education.
She shares tools and tips and help helplines all the
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different things related to domestic violence and the advocacy related
to it. She was the one who actually inspired us
to take part of the domestic Violence back drive that
we did back in October. So I want to encourage
people to go follow Rebecca's Legacy and become a part
of it, start helping, start creating change and making noise
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about domestic violence and the changes that need to be
made in regards to all things related to spouse abuse
in general. We want to thank Angela for allowing us
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to share rebecca story. We are honored to announce that
Angela has been awarded a scholarship to attend the inaugural
Advocacy Conference in Indianapolis, Indiana, and twenty twenty five. Thank
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