April 27, 2024 • 24 mins
Get ready to be the most informed voter on the block! Our latest podcast kicks off with a bang as we tackle the sizzling Republican primary runoff for North Carolina State Auditor. The competition is fierce, and we're here to spotlight the contenders, starting with Dave Boliek—his impressive resume boasts roles such as former prosecutor and UNC Board of Trustees chairman. But it doesn't end there; we're digging into the conservative endorsements that have rallied behind him. Then, there's Jack Clark, who matches up with his CPA credentials and a wealth of auditing experience. Ever wondered how crucial a CPA is for the auditor's office? We've got answers.
As you gear up for the May 14th showdown, we don't just throw numbers and stats at you. We're painting full portraits of these candidates, providing insights into their campaign finances and personal anecdotes that reveal the men behind the policies. How does Jack Clark's family life fuel his public service passion? What's the game-changing strategy he proposes for audit selections? This is more than just a political rundown; it's a deep dive into the experiences of these candidates and why their visions for North Carolina matter. With this as the last of our three-part series for the 2024 Second Primary Election, you'll not only know who's on the ballot but also understand the heartbeat of each of their campaigns.
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Amanda Benbow Lunn (00:10):
Hello friends, thanks for joining me
on the NC Deep Dive.
I'm your host, Amanda BenbowLunn, and we are delving into
the 2024 second primary electionhappening May 14th.
There will be three episodes tothis segment and, depending on
your precinct in Southern WakeCounty, you may have two or
(00:30):
three races on your ballot.
Since two of these are stateraces, they will apply to the
entirety of eligible voters inNorth Carolina, so if you are
listening from afar, they stillmight be useful.
Please note that all three ofthese runoff races are on the
Republican ballot because thetop vote-getter in March's
primary did not achieve morethan 30% of the vote.
(00:52):
When that happens, therunner-up can ask for a second
primary runoff election.
Those eligible to vote thisgo-round are as follows 1.
All registered Republicans.
Two, all those registered asunaffiliated, also known by some
as independent, who did notcast a vote in March's primary.
(01:12):
And.
Three, all those registered asunaffiliated or independent who
did vote in March's primary andthey selected a Republican
ballot.
No races fit the criteria for arunoff election for the
Democrats or Libertarians.
All of those primary winnershave moved on to November's
general election, so there isnot an opportunity to cast your
(01:34):
vote this go-round For thesesegments.
I will be reading from eachcandidate's website, along with
anything I feel may be ofinterest on a simple Google
search.
Sometimes it's easier forpeople to digest this stuff
audibly, but if you are a visuallearner or you are short on
time, feel free to skip theseepisodes and search for yourself
Without further ado.
(01:55):
My friends, let's dive in.
For the North Carolina auditorseat, we will have Dave Boliek
versus Jack Clark.
We're going to begin with DaveBoliek as he will show up first
on your ballot.
His website is auditordave.
com.
That's A-U-D-I-T-O-R-D-A-V-E.
com.
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His website says Republicanprimary runoff is May 14th.
Find your polling place atncsbe.
gov Auditor Dave Boliek lookingafter your money.
There's a place where you canjoin his team.
It has in the news with a fewdifferent articles Boliek time
for state auditor to interveneon EC's late audits.
(02:38):
Unc Chapel Hill trustees couldbegin to defund DEI efforts.
Unc Board of Trustees preparingfor possible end of DEI.
And there's a read more section.
When you click that it takesyou to further articles which
I'm not going to read, but Iwill just read you the title and
you can choose to go online ifyou would like to read more.
(03:00):
Folliot calls for emergencyaudit of Durham schools.
Folliot column.
North Carolina needs a tough,conservative state auditor.
Unc forms school of civic lifeand leadership to provide equal
opportunity for students.
Dave Boliek, unc Chapel Hillboard chair Boliek, considering
running for state auditor.
Meet Dave ConservativeRepublican, trusted leader,
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budget hawk, former prosecutor,small businessman, eagle Scout,
father, husband and there is avideo on YouTube.
Why Dave Boliek?
For auditor Experience, courage, conservatism.
As a former prosecutor, davehas the expertise to find and
root out government corruption.
Dave is the most experiencedcandidate.
He is the only candidate whohas run a small business.
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As chairman of the UNC Board ofTrustees, dave created the
university's first auditcommittee, balanced the budget
and eliminated the university'soperating deficit for the first
time in years.
While board chairman Dave ledthe fight at UNC to eliminate
woke diversity in equitypolicies and create a new school
of civic life and leadership tohelp bring ideological balance
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to the notoriously liberalcampus.
Dave is a committed Christianwho serves as an elder in his
church.
He's an Eagle Scout and aformer youth sports coach.
He and his wife of 30 years,hayden, are the proud parents of
four children.
Vote early or on election day,may 14th.
More about Dave.
David Luther Boliek Jr was bornin Lincolnton, spent most of his
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adult life in Fayetteville andhas lived in Durham, eden,
greensboro, chapel Hill,thomasville, hickory, boone and
Raleigh.
His father, dave Sr, was fromHickory and worked as a radio
newsman, a radio station manager, a TV news reporter, tv news
anchor and later involved in anonprofit that wired rural
schools for early internet usage.
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His mother, joanne, was a newsreporter and later a school
teacher.
Dave graduated from UNC ChapelHill and earned both a law
degree and master's in businessadministration degree in the
same year from Campbell.
He now serves on the UNC Boardof Trustees, where he led
reforms to the university'sbudget process and established
an audit and risk managementcommittee.
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After law school, dave workedhelping to manage military
family housing, logistics andservice contracts on military
bases across the country.
In late 1998, dave was anassistant district attorney in
Cumberland County, where heprosecuted a wide range of
crimes in both the district andsuperior courts.
In the late fall of 2001, daveleft the district attorney's
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office for private practice.
Dave has worked primarily as alitigator, working in the
courtroom on behalf of clientsfrom all walks of life.
His practice is in both stateand federal courts and he has
tried hundreds of cases beforeboth judges and juries.
Dave has also had a successfulpractice working with DMV
regulations, abc regulations andconsulting on healthcare
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matters.
His endorsements conservativegroups Crystal Coast Tea Party,
citizen Advocates forAccountable Government,
conservative Coalition of NorthCarolina, liberty First
Grassroots New Group of Patriots.
Conservative Sheriffs.
Donnie Harrison of Wake County.
Jim McVicker of Bladen County.
He is endorsed by conservativestate senators Phil Berger from
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District 26, guilford-rockingham, danny Britt from District 24,
robeson, scotland and Hoke.
Dave Craven from District 29,randolph, anson, montgomery,
richmond and Union.
Ralph Hyes from District 47with Allegheny, ash, avery,
caldwell, haywood, madison,mitchell, watauga, nyonce.
Mike Lazara from District 6from Onslow County.
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Brad Overcash of District 43from Gaston.
Bill Rabin from District 8 fromBrunswick, columbus and New
Hanover Thank you.
District 70 from Randolph,dustin Hall.
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District 87 from Caldwell andWatauga.
Neil Jackson from District 78,moore and Randolph.
Brendan Jones from District 46,columbus and Robeson.
Reese Purtle from District 65in Rockingham.
Jason Sane from District 67 inLincoln, chris Humphrey from
District 12 from Green Jones andLenore.
And other leading conservativeshave Chad Brown, the Republican
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nominee for Secretary of State,and Jim Key, former Republican
candidate for state auditor.
And then there is a donatebutton if you would like to give
to his campaign.
I do not see any links forsocial media on his website, but
I will try to look that up andinclude them in the show notes.
Moving on to Ballotpedia, hisbiography states that Dave
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Boliek was born in Lincolnton,north Carolina.
He graduated from Northern HighSchool.
He earned a bachelor's degreefrom the University of North
Carolina at Chapel Hill in 1990and a law degree and graduate
degree from Campbell Universityin 1997.
His career experience includesworking as an attorney at law.
Boliek has been affiliated withthe following organizations
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Southeast Regional Area HealthEducation Center.
Unc Chapel Hill Board of Clark.
Both Republicans are running inthe Republican primary runoff
for North Carolina State Auditoron May 14, 2024.
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Clark and Boliek were the toptwo finishers in the March 5
Republican primary, with 23.2%and 22.1% of the vote
respectively.
State law permitted Boliek torequest a runoff because Clark
did not receive more than 30% ofthe vote.
Both Boliek and Clark completedBallotpedia's Candidate
Connection Survey.
Boliek is an attorney and amember of the University of
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North Carolina Chapel Hill Boardof Trustees.
Boliek says his experiencemanaging the university's
investments and as a prosecutingattorney make him the best
qualified candidate.
Boliek says the auditor's coreresponsibilities include leading
a highly effective team toaccomplish work on behalf of the
taxpayers and implementing astrategic plan to achieve
accountability for the spendingof taxpayer dollars.
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Clark is a staffer working onbudget policy in the General
Assembly.
Clark is a former auditor inthe private sector.
Clark says he is the mostqualified candidate because he
is the only candidate with amaster's in accounting, a CPA
and a recent audit experience.
Clark says the auditor's coreresponsibility is to find the
objective truth.
Whoever is elected to thisoffice must provide the proper
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tone at the top to inspire theauditors working under them to
approach every audit with theright mindset.
The winner will face incumbentJessica Holmes, the Democrat,
and Bob Druch, the Libertarian,in the general election.
The last Republican elected asNorth Carolina auditor was
Leslie Merritt in 2004.
And again, the first Republicanprimary for the 2024 election.
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For this race, jack Clarkreceived 23.2% of the vote,
which was 197,976 votes.
Dave Boliek received 22.1% ofthe vote with 188,398 votes,
with a difference of just under10,000 votes.
Again, there were four othercandidates running in the first
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primary and it looks to bearound 400,000 votes.
That can now be split betweenJack and Dave.
The election campaign financeinformation that's on
Ballotpedia.
It's reported from January 1st2023 through December 31st of
2023.
So it does not have any of theinformation for any of 2024, of
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2024.
But it says Dave Boliek has hada total of $347,109 in total
contributions.
He has a $100,000 loan, whichgenerally the loans come from
the candidates themselves, andhis total expenditures have been
$49,844.
Jack Clark, saying his totalcontributions were $9,336.
His total loans were $5,000 andhis total expenditures were
$4,916.
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But again, that is just throughDecember 31st of 2023.
That's $347,109 from 243 uniquecontributors, one of which is
himself.
He did loan himself that$100,000.
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His expenditures through theend of last year were $49,844,
with 45 unique payees.
He did fill out the 2024Ballotpedia survey.
So there are a good 15 to 20questions here, ranging from who
are you tell us about yourself?
List the three key messages ofyour campaign, what areas of
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public policy are you personallypassionate about?
Who do you look up to?
What legacy would you like toleave, and so forth.
So you can learn more about himby going to Ballotpedia.
He also does have the sameYouTube video that was on his
website on this page, becausehis information did not include
anything from 2024, I did lookthat up.
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It looks like everything thisyear has just been a 48-hour
report and you can click on theimage and it will tell you who
gave what money money and howmuch.
So he has received quite a fewdonations since then, but it's
just not all spelled out in aneasy to understand format.
In one form he looks like hedid give himself another $35,000
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worth of a loan.
In one of them it looks likequite a number of them.
There are $1,000 loans.
Some of them are for $6,400,which is the most an individual
can give in an election.
But if you're interested in whohas contributed to his campaign
, you can check out our shownotes and you can see exactly
who has.
I didn't find anything of superinterest or of concern doing a
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Google search of Dave.
Primarily it was just all ofthe news coverage about Dave and
Jack's race altogether.
Moving on to Jack Clark'swebsite, it's jackclarknc.
com J-A-C-K-C-L-A-R-K-N-C.
com.
It says Jack Clark, northCarolina auditor.
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The bottom line Jack is theonly candidate running for state
auditor who is educated,trained and experienced in
auditing.
He is the only candidate with amaster's in accounting, a CPA
and audit experience.
Jack understands the mindsetand approach of the state
auditor must bring.
Jack understands the mindsetand approach the state auditor
must bring to the position.
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Legal experience does notprepare someone for auditing.
Do not be misled Jack is theonly truly qualified candidate.
About the state auditor electionwhat is state auditor?
North Carolina's state auditoris in charge of reviewing the
finances of local governmentsand state agencies to ensure
that your tax dollars are usedfor their intended purpose.
Why do we elect this position?
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A state auditor elected by thepeople is accountable to the
people whose tax dollars arebeing used.
What is at stake in thiselection?
This role requires someone whounderstands the audit process
and will lead the departmentwith the highest standards of
integrity, without any bias orpersonal agenda.
Why should you elect Jack?
Jack Clark is the onlycandidate with a CPA and a
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career in auditing.
He has the passion, integrityand experience needed to be
state auditor.
Important questions and answers.
Why is having a CPA important?
A CPA Certified PublicAccountant license is the
premier certification foraccountants.
Obtaining a CPA requirespassing four exams, one of which
is audit.
The audit exam was Jack'shighest score, his focus in his
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master's in accounting programand the career path he took
within accounting as opposed totax, financial reporting or
business.
In addition, a CPA has run theaudit department since 2004,
with an experienced auditor incharge since 1992.
This department has strongaudit skills which Jack will
harness to good use.
Jack's CPA certificate numberis 41753, listed under his legal
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name.
Who will Jack audit?
First, making a campaignpromise to go after certain
areas is bad audit policy forvarious reasons.
It biases the auditor to findthings that may not exist.
It biases those audited to becombative rather than
collaborative, and it biases thepublic to find things that may
not exist.
It biases those audited to becombative rather than
collaborative.
And it biases the public to seeyou as pursuing political ends
rather than true, unbiasedaccountability.
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Any candidate who tells youspecifically who they are going
to audit does not understand themindset it takes to be state
auditor.
How will Jack decide who toaudit?
Jack will review factors suchas recency of last audit, amount
of state funds involved,importance to the functioning of
the state and other riskfactors Over the last 15 years.
The previous auditor will havehad blind spots and Jack's first
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goal after being elected willbe to find those areas.
Check your voting status.
There is a link where you cancheck your voting status.
There is a campaign newssection.
It lists Jack Clark announcescandidacy.
Jack Clark responds to theincumbent's departure Hall.
Welcomes statewide candidatesto Stokes County.
Stay tuned for more.
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It lists upcoming events, allof which have happened prior to
now, and then there's a GetConnected section where you can
subscribe for updates.
Follow his Facebook page, hisTwitter or x account and
Instagram.
Meet Jack, an auditor runningfor state auditor Jack Clark,
cpa is both educated inaccounting and experienced in
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auditing.
As the only CPA certificationnumber 41753, seeking the
auditor nomination from anyparty, jack is uniquely
qualified to start on day oneensuring North Carolina tax
dollars are used efficiently andeffectively.
Jack earned a Bachelor ofScience in Economics with minors
in Statistics and PoliticalScience from Duke University.
He earned a Master ofAccounting in the Audit track
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from UNC Chapel Hill.
After obtaining his Master's,jack worked as an external
auditor for Grant Thornton,working with multi-billion
dollar corporations and smallstartups alike.
This role prepares Jack to workwith the largest agencies to
the smallest municipalities.
Jack then transitioned into aninternal audit role for a large
multinational company, where hehelped prepare the company for
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SOX readiness.
This role prepares Jack to helpeverywhere.
His team audits set up controlsand processes to maintain their
finances more effectively.
Feeling God calling him intopublic service, jack now works
on budget policy in the GeneralAssembly.
He has witnessed the budgetbeing crafted and knows where
the money is supposed to go,which gives him a leg up on
auditing where it does go.
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Jack resides in Wake County withhis wife, nicole.
They attend and serve at King'sTable Church in Raleigh.
They enjoy spending time tryingnew restaurants and watching
Duke and NC State games.
They are expecting the birth oftheir first child this summer.
Vision for Office A leader fora changing world.
As a former auditor, jack has astrong understanding of how
auditors can help organizationsrun their financial departments
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more effectively.
While bringing wrongdoers tojustice is one priority, jack
recognizes that most publicsector employees simply want to
perform their jobs to the bestof their abilities.
Jack's goal is to ensure thatthese citizens have the tools
they need to properly serveNorth Carolina.
Jack would like to remove thehistorically negative
connotation of the word auditand instead show everyone how
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this role can benefit everydaypeople.
Jack also believes that thestate auditor should be agile
and responsive to the changeshappening in the audit
profession.
Jack will modernize the methodsand tools used, such as
utilizing more data analytics.
Jack will also welcome the nextgeneration of accountants with
novel ideas to keep NorthCarolina at the forefront of the
audit profession.
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Jack truly wants to serve allNorth Carolinians His vision and
there are pictures of him andhis wife and there's also a
let's Chat button and a buttonwhere you can donate to his
campaign if you so choose.
Looking at Ballotpedia, again,it goes over their battleground
election information, theirbattleground election
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information and again he did winthe primary in March with 23.2%
of the vote, compared to DaveBoliak's 22.1% of the vote.
But since Jack did not achieve30%, dave was able to ask for a
runoff election Again.
His spending here is listedJanuary 1st 2023 through
December 31st of 2023.
Like Dave, he's had a bunch of48-hour additions to his
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campaign finance page and I'llput that link on the show notes
so that you can look into thatmore if you are interested.
But again, dave's had the$347,109 in total contributions
with $49,844 in totalexpenditures.
Jack Clark has had $9,336 incontributions through December
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31st of 2023.
He's taken out a $5,000 loan,which again, typically is the
candidate taking a loan fromthemselves, and his total
expenditures have been $4,916,again through December 31st of
last year, with hiscontributions totaling $9,336,.
He had 22 unique contributors.
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His expenditures of the $4,916,he's had 35 unique payees.
Like Dave Boliek, he didcomplete the 2024 Ballotpedia
survey responses.
There are definitely a numberof questions here, a few less
than what David answered, butagain there are basic questions
like who are you?
What are your three keymessages of your campaign?
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What areas of public policy areyou personally passionate about
?
What qualities does this officepossess that makes it unique
and important part of the stategovernment and legal system?
Who do you look up to?
What legacy would you like tohave?
What's your favorite book?
What kind of skills orexpertise do you believe would
be helpful for holders of thisoffice to possess?
What organizations orindividuals endorsed your
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campaign?
It does say Representative KyleHall of the NC Appropriations
Committee co-chair.
I did not see endorsements ontheir pages.
So, going back to Dave Boliek'sBallapedia page, the answer to
his last survey question doessay he has been endorsed by
Speaker of the NC House, timMoore Through the first quarter
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of 2024, it's showing that he'sraised $235 in aggregated
contributions from individuals,which means I believe they gave
either $25 or $50 or less.
He's had just over $11,000 inother contributions from
individuals, $22.50 from otherpolitical committees.
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His loan of $5,000 totaling$18,736 in total receipts.
His expenditures totaling$8,709.72.
His cash on hand at the end ofthe first quarter was $10,026.28
.
He's only had one other reportthat again is a 48-hour report
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Within 48 hours of the donation.
He sent this in and it camefrom Elmore4NC donated $1,000.
And Robert Luddy donated $5,000.
So he has a total of $6,000more in contributions.
And again, doing a basic Googlesearch, I did not find anything
of concern beyond just thetypical election info that can
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be found between Jack and Dave.
Again on the ballot, this willbe for the North Carolina
auditor seat.
It is a statewide race betweenDave Boliek and Jack Clark.
You will have the option tovote for one of these candidates
in the second primary for the2024 election.
The winner of this electionwill move on to November's
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general election to faceDemocrat Rachel Hunt and
Libertarian Bob Druch.
The second primary electionwill be held on Tuesday May 14th
.
Early voting begins ThursdayApril 25th and will extend
through Saturday May 11th.
There are only three earlyvoting sites for Wake County
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this election cycle.
They will be at the NorthernRegional Center in Wake Forest,
the Wake County Board ofElections on North New Hope Road
in Raleigh and at Wake Tech'sSouthern Campus on Fayetteville
Road in Raleigh.
If you plan to vote via anabsentee ballot.
You may request one through 5pm on Tuesday, may 7th, and it
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has to be received by the CountyBoard of Elections office no
later than 7.30 pm on ElectionDay, may 14th.
I will include general votinginformation, as well as the
candidates' websites, campaignfinance information and social
media handles, for yourconvenience, in this episode's
show notes.
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Hello friends, thanks for joining me
on the NC Deep Dive.
I'm your host, Amanda BenbowLunn, and we are delving into
the 2024 second primary electionhappening May 14th.
There will be three episodes tothis segment and, depending on
your precinct in Southern WakeCounty, you may have two or
(00:30):
three races on your ballot.
Since two of these are stateraces, they will apply to the
entirety of eligible voters inNorth Carolina, so if you are
listening from afar, they stillmight be useful.
Please note that all three ofthese runoff races are on the
Republican ballot because thetop vote-getter in March's
primary did not achieve morethan 30% of the vote.
(00:52):
When that happens, therunner-up can ask for a second
primary runoff election.
Those eligible to vote thisgo-round are as follows 1.
All registered Republicans.
Two, all those registered asunaffiliated, also known by some
as independent, who did notcast a vote in March's primary.
(01:12):
And.
Three, all those registered asunaffiliated or independent who
did vote in March's primary andthey selected a Republican
ballot.
No races fit the criteria for arunoff election for the
Democrats or Libertarians.
All of those primary winnershave moved on to November's
general election, so there isnot an opportunity to cast your
(01:34):
vote this go-round For thesesegments.
I will be reading from eachcandidate's website, along with
anything I feel may be ofinterest on a simple Google
search.
Sometimes it's easier forpeople to digest this stuff
audibly, but if you are a visuallearner or you are short on
time, feel free to skip theseepisodes and search for yourself
Without further ado.
(01:55):
My friends, let's dive in.
For the North Carolina auditorseat, we will have Dave Boliek
versus Jack Clark.
We're going to begin with DaveBoliek as he will show up first
on your ballot.
His website is auditordave.
com.
That's A-U-D-I-T-O-R-D-A-V-E.
com.
(02:17):
His website says Republicanprimary runoff is May 14th.
Find your polling place atncsbe.
gov Auditor Dave Boliek lookingafter your money.
There's a place where you canjoin his team.
It has in the news with a fewdifferent articles Boliek time
for state auditor to interveneon EC's late audits.
(02:38):
Unc Chapel Hill trustees couldbegin to defund DEI efforts.
Unc Board of Trustees preparingfor possible end of DEI.
And there's a read more section.
When you click that it takesyou to further articles which
I'm not going to read, but Iwill just read you the title and
you can choose to go online ifyou would like to read more.
(03:00):
Folliot calls for emergencyaudit of Durham schools.
Folliot column.
North Carolina needs a tough,conservative state auditor.
Unc forms school of civic lifeand leadership to provide equal
opportunity for students.
Dave Boliek, unc Chapel Hillboard chair Boliek, considering
running for state auditor.
Meet Dave ConservativeRepublican, trusted leader,
(03:22):
budget hawk, former prosecutor,small businessman, eagle Scout,
father, husband and there is avideo on YouTube.
Why Dave Boliek?
For auditor Experience, courage, conservatism.
As a former prosecutor, davehas the expertise to find and
root out government corruption.
Dave is the most experiencedcandidate.
He is the only candidate whohas run a small business.
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As chairman of the UNC Board ofTrustees, dave created the
university's first auditcommittee, balanced the budget
and eliminated the university'soperating deficit for the first
time in years.
While board chairman Dave ledthe fight at UNC to eliminate
woke diversity in equitypolicies and create a new school
of civic life and leadership tohelp bring ideological balance
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to the notoriously liberalcampus.
Dave is a committed Christianwho serves as an elder in his
church.
He's an Eagle Scout and aformer youth sports coach.
He and his wife of 30 years,hayden, are the proud parents of
four children.
Vote early or on election day,may 14th.
More about Dave.
David Luther Boliek Jr was bornin Lincolnton, spent most of his
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adult life in Fayetteville andhas lived in Durham, eden,
greensboro, chapel Hill,thomasville, hickory, boone and
Raleigh.
His father, dave Sr, was fromHickory and worked as a radio
newsman, a radio station manager, a TV news reporter, tv news
anchor and later involved in anonprofit that wired rural
schools for early internet usage.
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His mother, joanne, was a newsreporter and later a school
teacher.
Dave graduated from UNC ChapelHill and earned both a law
degree and master's in businessadministration degree in the
same year from Campbell.
He now serves on the UNC Boardof Trustees, where he led
reforms to the university'sbudget process and established
an audit and risk managementcommittee.
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After law school, dave workedhelping to manage military
family housing, logistics andservice contracts on military
bases across the country.
In late 1998, dave was anassistant district attorney in
Cumberland County, where heprosecuted a wide range of
crimes in both the district andsuperior courts.
In the late fall of 2001, daveleft the district attorney's
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office for private practice.
Dave has worked primarily as alitigator, working in the
courtroom on behalf of clientsfrom all walks of life.
His practice is in both stateand federal courts and he has
tried hundreds of cases beforeboth judges and juries.
Dave has also had a successfulpractice working with DMV
regulations, abc regulations andconsulting on healthcare
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matters.
His endorsements conservativegroups Crystal Coast Tea Party,
citizen Advocates forAccountable Government,
conservative Coalition of NorthCarolina, liberty First
Grassroots New Group of Patriots.
Conservative Sheriffs.
Donnie Harrison of Wake County.
Jim McVicker of Bladen County.
He is endorsed by conservativestate senators Phil Berger from
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District 26, guilford-rockingham, danny Britt from District 24,
robeson, scotland and Hoke.
Dave Craven from District 29,randolph, anson, montgomery,
richmond and Union.
Ralph Hyes from District 47with Allegheny, ash, avery,
caldwell, haywood, madison,mitchell, watauga, nyonce.
Mike Lazara from District 6from Onslow County.
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Brad Overcash of District 43from Gaston.
Bill Rabin from District 8 fromBrunswick, columbus and New
Hanover Thank you.
District 70 from Randolph,dustin Hall.
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District 87 from Caldwell andWatauga.
Neil Jackson from District 78,moore and Randolph.
Brendan Jones from District 46,columbus and Robeson.
Reese Purtle from District 65in Rockingham.
Jason Sane from District 67 inLincoln, chris Humphrey from
District 12 from Green Jones andLenore.
And other leading conservativeshave Chad Brown, the Republican
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nominee for Secretary of State,and Jim Key, former Republican
candidate for state auditor.
And then there is a donatebutton if you would like to give
to his campaign.
I do not see any links forsocial media on his website, but
I will try to look that up andinclude them in the show notes.
Moving on to Ballotpedia, hisbiography states that Dave
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Boliek was born in Lincolnton,north Carolina.
He graduated from Northern HighSchool.
He earned a bachelor's degreefrom the University of North
Carolina at Chapel Hill in 1990and a law degree and graduate
degree from Campbell Universityin 1997.
His career experience includesworking as an attorney at law.
Boliek has been affiliated withthe following organizations
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Southeast Regional Area HealthEducation Center.
Unc Chapel Hill Board of Clark.
Both Republicans are running inthe Republican primary runoff
for North Carolina State Auditoron May 14, 2024.
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Clark and Boliek were the toptwo finishers in the March 5
Republican primary, with 23.2%and 22.1% of the vote
respectively.
State law permitted Boliek torequest a runoff because Clark
did not receive more than 30% ofthe vote.
Both Boliek and Clark completedBallotpedia's Candidate
Connection Survey.
Boliek is an attorney and amember of the University of
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North Carolina Chapel Hill Boardof Trustees.
Boliek says his experiencemanaging the university's
investments and as a prosecutingattorney make him the best
qualified candidate.
Boliek says the auditor's coreresponsibilities include leading
a highly effective team toaccomplish work on behalf of the
taxpayers and implementing astrategic plan to achieve
accountability for the spendingof taxpayer dollars.
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Clark is a staffer working onbudget policy in the General
Assembly.
Clark is a former auditor inthe private sector.
Clark says he is the mostqualified candidate because he
is the only candidate with amaster's in accounting, a CPA
and a recent audit experience.
Clark says the auditor's coreresponsibility is to find the
objective truth.
Whoever is elected to thisoffice must provide the proper
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tone at the top to inspire theauditors working under them to
approach every audit with theright mindset.
The winner will face incumbentJessica Holmes, the Democrat,
and Bob Druch, the Libertarian,in the general election.
The last Republican elected asNorth Carolina auditor was
Leslie Merritt in 2004.
And again, the first Republicanprimary for the 2024 election.
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For this race, jack Clarkreceived 23.2% of the vote,
which was 197,976 votes.
Dave Boliek received 22.1% ofthe vote with 188,398 votes,
with a difference of just under10,000 votes.
Again, there were four othercandidates running in the first
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primary and it looks to bearound 400,000 votes.
That can now be split betweenJack and Dave.
The election campaign financeinformation that's on
Ballotpedia.
It's reported from January 1st2023 through December 31st of
2023.
So it does not have any of theinformation for any of 2024, of
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2024.
But it says Dave Boliek has hada total of $347,109 in total
contributions.
He has a $100,000 loan, whichgenerally the loans come from
the candidates themselves, andhis total expenditures have been
$49,844.
Jack Clark, saying his totalcontributions were $9,336.
His total loans were $5,000 andhis total expenditures were
$4,916.
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But again, that is just throughDecember 31st of 2023.
That's $347,109 from 243 uniquecontributors, one of which is
himself.
He did loan himself that$100,000.
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His expenditures through theend of last year were $49,844,
with 45 unique payees.
He did fill out the 2024Ballotpedia survey.
So there are a good 15 to 20questions here, ranging from who
are you tell us about yourself?
List the three key messages ofyour campaign, what areas of
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public policy are you personallypassionate about?
Who do you look up to?
What legacy would you like toleave, and so forth.
So you can learn more about himby going to Ballotpedia.
He also does have the sameYouTube video that was on his
website on this page, becausehis information did not include
anything from 2024, I did lookthat up.
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It looks like everything thisyear has just been a 48-hour
report and you can click on theimage and it will tell you who
gave what money money and howmuch.
So he has received quite a fewdonations since then, but it's
just not all spelled out in aneasy to understand format.
In one form he looks like hedid give himself another $35,000
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worth of a loan.
In one of them it looks likequite a number of them.
There are $1,000 loans.
Some of them are for $6,400,which is the most an individual
can give in an election.
But if you're interested in whohas contributed to his campaign
, you can check out our shownotes and you can see exactly
who has.
I didn't find anything of superinterest or of concern doing a
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Google search of Dave.
Primarily it was just all ofthe news coverage about Dave and
Jack's race altogether.
Moving on to Jack Clark'swebsite, it's jackclarknc.
com J-A-C-K-C-L-A-R-K-N-C.
com.
It says Jack Clark, northCarolina auditor.
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The bottom line Jack is theonly candidate running for state
auditor who is educated,trained and experienced in
auditing.
He is the only candidate with amaster's in accounting, a CPA
and audit experience.
Jack understands the mindsetand approach of the state
auditor must bring.
Jack understands the mindsetand approach the state auditor
must bring to the position.
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Legal experience does notprepare someone for auditing.
Do not be misled Jack is theonly truly qualified candidate.
About the state auditor electionwhat is state auditor?
North Carolina's state auditoris in charge of reviewing the
finances of local governmentsand state agencies to ensure
that your tax dollars are usedfor their intended purpose.
Why do we elect this position?
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A state auditor elected by thepeople is accountable to the
people whose tax dollars arebeing used.
What is at stake in thiselection?
This role requires someone whounderstands the audit process
and will lead the departmentwith the highest standards of
integrity, without any bias orpersonal agenda.
Why should you elect Jack?
Jack Clark is the onlycandidate with a CPA and a
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career in auditing.
He has the passion, integrityand experience needed to be
state auditor.
Important questions and answers.
Why is having a CPA important?
A CPA Certified PublicAccountant license is the
premier certification foraccountants.
Obtaining a CPA requirespassing four exams, one of which
is audit.
The audit exam was Jack'shighest score, his focus in his
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master's in accounting programand the career path he took
within accounting as opposed totax, financial reporting or
business.
In addition, a CPA has run theaudit department since 2004,
with an experienced auditor incharge since 1992.
This department has strongaudit skills which Jack will
harness to good use.
Jack's CPA certificate numberis 41753, listed under his legal
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name.
Who will Jack audit?
First, making a campaignpromise to go after certain
areas is bad audit policy forvarious reasons.
It biases the auditor to findthings that may not exist.
It biases those audited to becombative rather than
collaborative, and it biases thepublic to find things that may
not exist.
It biases those audited to becombative rather than
collaborative.
And it biases the public to seeyou as pursuing political ends
rather than true, unbiasedaccountability.
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Any candidate who tells youspecifically who they are going
to audit does not understand themindset it takes to be state
auditor.
How will Jack decide who toaudit?
Jack will review factors suchas recency of last audit, amount
of state funds involved,importance to the functioning of
the state and other riskfactors Over the last 15 years.
The previous auditor will havehad blind spots and Jack's first
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goal after being elected willbe to find those areas.
Check your voting status.
There is a link where you cancheck your voting status.
There is a campaign newssection.
It lists Jack Clark announcescandidacy.
Jack Clark responds to theincumbent's departure Hall.
Welcomes statewide candidatesto Stokes County.
Stay tuned for more.
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It lists upcoming events, allof which have happened prior to
now, and then there's a GetConnected section where you can
subscribe for updates.
Follow his Facebook page, hisTwitter or x account and
Instagram.
Meet Jack, an auditor runningfor state auditor Jack Clark,
cpa is both educated inaccounting and experienced in
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auditing.
As the only CPA certificationnumber 41753, seeking the
auditor nomination from anyparty, jack is uniquely
qualified to start on day oneensuring North Carolina tax
dollars are used efficiently andeffectively.
Jack earned a Bachelor ofScience in Economics with minors
in Statistics and PoliticalScience from Duke University.
He earned a Master ofAccounting in the Audit track
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from UNC Chapel Hill.
After obtaining his Master's,jack worked as an external
auditor for Grant Thornton,working with multi-billion
dollar corporations and smallstartups alike.
This role prepares Jack to workwith the largest agencies to
the smallest municipalities.
Jack then transitioned into aninternal audit role for a large
multinational company, where hehelped prepare the company for
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SOX readiness.
This role prepares Jack to helpeverywhere.
His team audits set up controlsand processes to maintain their
finances more effectively.
Feeling God calling him intopublic service, jack now works
on budget policy in the GeneralAssembly.
He has witnessed the budgetbeing crafted and knows where
the money is supposed to go,which gives him a leg up on
auditing where it does go.
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Jack resides in Wake County withhis wife, nicole.
They attend and serve at King'sTable Church in Raleigh.
They enjoy spending time tryingnew restaurants and watching
Duke and NC State games.
They are expecting the birth oftheir first child this summer.
Vision for Office A leader fora changing world.
As a former auditor, jack has astrong understanding of how
auditors can help organizationsrun their financial departments
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more effectively.
While bringing wrongdoers tojustice is one priority, jack
recognizes that most publicsector employees simply want to
perform their jobs to the bestof their abilities.
Jack's goal is to ensure thatthese citizens have the tools
they need to properly serveNorth Carolina.
Jack would like to remove thehistorically negative
connotation of the word auditand instead show everyone how
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this role can benefit everydaypeople.
Jack also believes that thestate auditor should be agile
and responsive to the changeshappening in the audit
profession.
Jack will modernize the methodsand tools used, such as
utilizing more data analytics.
Jack will also welcome the nextgeneration of accountants with
novel ideas to keep NorthCarolina at the forefront of the
audit profession.
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Jack truly wants to serve allNorth Carolinians His vision and
there are pictures of him andhis wife and there's also a
let's Chat button and a buttonwhere you can donate to his
campaign if you so choose.
Looking at Ballotpedia, again,it goes over their battleground
election information, theirbattleground election
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information and again he did winthe primary in March with 23.2%
of the vote, compared to DaveBoliak's 22.1% of the vote.
But since Jack did not achieve30%, dave was able to ask for a
runoff election Again.
His spending here is listedJanuary 1st 2023 through
December 31st of 2023.
Like Dave, he's had a bunch of48-hour additions to his
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campaign finance page and I'llput that link on the show notes
so that you can look into thatmore if you are interested.
But again, dave's had the$347,109 in total contributions
with $49,844 in totalexpenditures.
Jack Clark has had $9,336 incontributions through December
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31st of 2023.
He's taken out a $5,000 loan,which again, typically is the
candidate taking a loan fromthemselves, and his total
expenditures have been $4,916,again through December 31st of
last year, with hiscontributions totaling $9,336,.
He had 22 unique contributors.
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His expenditures of the $4,916,he's had 35 unique payees.
Like Dave Boliek, he didcomplete the 2024 Ballotpedia
survey responses.
There are definitely a numberof questions here, a few less
than what David answered, butagain there are basic questions
like who are you?
What are your three keymessages of your campaign?
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What areas of public policy areyou personally passionate about
?
What qualities does this officepossess that makes it unique
and important part of the stategovernment and legal system?
Who do you look up to?
What legacy would you like tohave?
What's your favorite book?
What kind of skills orexpertise do you believe would
be helpful for holders of thisoffice to possess?
What organizations orindividuals endorsed your
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campaign?
It does say Representative KyleHall of the NC Appropriations
Committee co-chair.
I did not see endorsements ontheir pages.
So, going back to Dave Boliek'sBallapedia page, the answer to
his last survey question doessay he has been endorsed by
Speaker of the NC House, timMoore Through the first quarter
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of 2024, it's showing that he'sraised $235 in aggregated
contributions from individuals,which means I believe they gave
either $25 or $50 or less.
He's had just over $11,000 inother contributions from
individuals, $22.50 from otherpolitical committees.
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His loan of $5,000 totaling$18,736 in total receipts.
His expenditures totaling$8,709.72.
His cash on hand at the end ofthe first quarter was $10,026.28
.
He's only had one other reportthat again is a 48-hour report
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Within 48 hours of the donation.
He sent this in and it camefrom Elmore4NC donated $1,000.
And Robert Luddy donated $5,000.
So he has a total of $6,000more in contributions.
And again, doing a basic Googlesearch, I did not find anything
of concern beyond just thetypical election info that can
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be found between Jack and Dave.
Again on the ballot, this willbe for the North Carolina
auditor seat.
It is a statewide race betweenDave Boliek and Jack Clark.
You will have the option tovote for one of these candidates
in the second primary for the2024 election.
The winner of this electionwill move on to November's
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general election to faceDemocrat Rachel Hunt and
Libertarian Bob Druch.
The second primary electionwill be held on Tuesday May 14th
.
Early voting begins ThursdayApril 25th and will extend
through Saturday May 11th.
There are only three earlyvoting sites for Wake County
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this election cycle.
They will be at the NorthernRegional Center in Wake Forest,
the Wake County Board ofElections on North New Hope Road
in Raleigh and at Wake Tech'sSouthern Campus on Fayetteville
Road in Raleigh.
If you plan to vote via anabsentee ballot.
You may request one through 5pm on Tuesday, may 7th, and it
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has to be received by the CountyBoard of Elections office no
later than 7.30 pm on ElectionDay, may 14th.
I will include general votinginformation, as well as the
candidates' websites, campaignfinance information and social
media handles, for yourconvenience, in this episode's
show notes.
With that we will conclude thisinstallment of the NC Deep Dive
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.
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If you did, I'd love for you torate it, review it and share it
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Your efforts really do make adifference and are very much
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