Barefaced & Bold: A Soul Chat with Kat Parks

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Embracing YOUR Face: Kat Parks joins us to chat about expression, aging, and the freedom to be seen

What if the lines on your face aren’t flaws to fix, but stories to honor?

Kat Parks is back on the Nearly Enlightened Podcast, and this time we’re diving deep into Face Freedom—her revolutionary approach that moves way beyond traditional face yoga. This isn’t about chasing youth or smoothing out every wrinkle. It’s about reconnecting with your natural expression, releasing long-held tension, and rewriting the narrative around beauty and aging.

Most of us are walking around totally disconnected from our faces—holding tension in our jaws, clenching around our eyes, barely breathing—and we don’t even realize it. Kat helps us tune back in as she explains how these unconscious patterns not only shape how we look, but also how we feel and how we show up in the world.

This episode is a powerful invitation to reclaim your face—not the one you had ten years ago, and not the one a filter says you should have—but the one that’s here now. The one that reflects your truth, your joy, your vitality.

We talk about:

• Why face yoga is about so much more than appearance—it supports lymphatic flow, emotional regulation, and nervous system health
• How cultural messaging and the beauty industry condition us to fear aging and distrust our natural looks
• Why vitality and joy are more magnetic than perfection
• The rise of injectables and filters—and how they subtly disconnect us from our bodies and emotions
• How to gently begin a face awareness practice, without pressure or shame
• What it means to be truly expressive, embodied, and free

This conversation is part truth-telling, part soul medicine, and part loving wake-up call to not just accept yourself, but to LOVE yourself. Whether you're face yoga curious or just ready to stop fighting your reflection, this one’s for you.

✨ Ready to begin your Face Freedom journey?
Kat’s 12-week program starts May 9th—head to findyourfacefreedom.com or find her on Instagram @beeasyfaceyoga to learn more and grab her free tension release guide.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:02):
Welcome to the Nearly Enlightened Podcast, a high
vibe toolbox designed to helpyou connect to your body, mind
and spirit.
I'm your host, gianna Girusso,and I'm here to share tools,
conversations and insights tohelp you on your journey of
self-discovery.
This podcast is all aboutexploring what it means to live
a conscious, connected andnearly enlightened life, because
the truth is, the answersaren't outside of ourselves,

(00:23):
they're already within.
Let's dive in.
Today I'm so excited to welcomeback a truly magical human and
one of my best friends.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
Kat Parks Welcome, kat, hello.
Oh my gosh, I love that introto the pod is so dope.
Because here's the thing y'allwe're never fully enlightened.
We're humans, we're.
We're nearly there, we'reworking.
Yeah, we're humans, we'renearly there, we're working on
it.

Speaker 1 (00:46):
Yeah, and like I've said a million times on this
podcast, you're like, if you'veworked with me, if you're in my
classes, we're never going to befully enlightened on this plane
.
It's like our soul school, ourplace to learn the lessons so
that our entire soul can evolve.

Speaker 2 (00:59):
Yes, it goes right hand in hand with my favorite
quote that I always say, whichis practice makes practicing
easier.

Speaker 1 (01:06):
I have adopted that from you.

Speaker 2 (01:08):
Yes, I love that.
I think that was actually thename of the last podcast episode
that I was on.

Speaker 1 (01:14):
Oh my gosh, that's so funny.
It's so funny Like I put out somany now, like we're almost at
50 episodes.
It's like oh my gosh.
I know it's crazy, it's crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:23):
Thank you, gosh.
I know it's crazy.
It's congrats.
Thank you.
It's one of my favoritepodcasts to listen to and to be
on.

Speaker 1 (01:27):
Oh my gosh, that's such an honor.
You're one of my favoriteguests to have on, because I
just love chatting with you.
It's funny.
You said something in a textmessage like just a few minutes
ago to me, before we werehopping on um.
You said we're the bestprojector friends.
And that is so true.
Like it's funny because, likethree of my very best friends
you and two of my other bestfriends, we're all projectors

(01:49):
and it's like I don't know howthat came to be, because we're
such a small part of thepopulation and one of the newer
archetypes in human design.
So it's like how I found youall.
It's just like so perfect.

Speaker 2 (02:02):
I love it.
I think that we just have likea little radar and we just find
each other, because my twochildhood best friends are also
projectors.
But we were both this morning.
We had our meeting was about tostart 15 minutes ago and we
were both like oh sorry I'm late.
I got one more thing to do.
Wait, hold on.

Speaker 1 (02:19):
And then, at the very last minute, I was like you
know what, if I don't sit downand pee, it's going to be a hard
hour.

Speaker 2 (02:26):
I love that.
That's always important.

Speaker 1 (02:28):
It's like right before a yoga class oh my gosh.
Yeah, because like there'snothing worse than being in
Shavasana and being like fuck, Ishould have peed before class,
oh gosh.
Or like in goddess pose or anykind of hip opener.
Actually, this is really funnyand I feel like you're the
perfect person to talk aboutthis with, but there was this
one time we're gonna get downand dirty right now.

(02:48):
I love it.
So there was this one time whenI first started practicing yoga
, I got really obsessed with yinand I started going to this yin
class like once a week, and onetime she had us in these deep
hip openers and I swear to God,I was having like an orgasmic
experience, but I couldn'tdecide if I was going to have an
orgasm or if I had to pee.

Speaker 2 (03:10):
I'm sorry for any family members that are
listening.
Oh my God, that's amazing.
Our podcast should probably beexplicit.

Speaker 1 (03:18):
I feel like it should be so diving deeper into this
topic.
So then I started to learnabout it and there are parts of
the clitoris that like getreleased when you get into deep
hip work, and that's like whatwe were doing.
So I was like like yeah, youcan have an orgasm in yoga.

Speaker 2 (03:36):
That's amazing and I mean well, I'm not going to dive
into it but the clitoris man,magical, gigantic, gigantic
organ beyond it's, way beyondanything, way beyond way beyond.

Speaker 1 (03:49):
Yeah, so this is actually funny.
So my two other projectorfriends, michaela, who has been
on this podcast, and Nikki, whoI've talked about on this
podcast endlessly she's like myperson, um but we went to this
women's retreat.
This is like going back likemany years ago now, um, but we
went to this women's retreat.
This is like going back likemany years ago now, but we went
to the like a female anatomyclass and it was like basically

(04:10):
the anatomy of the clitoris andshe had this giant gold, sparkly
clitoris.
That was like anatomicallycorrect and it was so
interesting to see that thereare like two what look like
balls like, yeah, inside thatlike we don't see, see, but it
can be stimulated.

Speaker 2 (04:29):
So it's very interesting, I mean it pretty
much looks like a penis andballs.
There was this um wellsculpture at burning man a
couple years ago.
That was like 30 feet tall,gigantic clitoris, and then it
had little facts all around itof like how many nerves are in
it compared to a penis, you knowall of way more.

Speaker 1 (04:51):
I feel like I need to Google it right now so we can
have actual numbers.
I love it.
I love that this is whereyou're supposed to talk about
face yoga, but we're talkingabout the clitoris you gotta
start from the bottom right.

Speaker 2 (05:05):
Like you, we gotta.
We gotta get that base, thatroot, start the start, the
pyramid down at the bottom andthen make our way up okay, let's
say, according to a recentstudy, the average number of
nerve fibers and the humanclitoris is approximately 10 280

(05:27):
wow um, let's see about a penis.

Speaker 1 (05:33):
It was something 4 000, so more than double the
clitoris has more than doublethe nerve endings.

Speaker 2 (05:40):
That that's amazing.
And like just at the little budpart, oh wow, I didn't realize
that that's incredible.

Speaker 1 (05:48):
Well, women are incredible women are incredible,
I love that well, great way tostart this pod yeah, we'll just
table that for now and I love itit's so me.

Speaker 2 (06:03):
Me and my husband have a podcast as well, and we
just recorded our first episodein like a year and a half, just
this week.

Speaker 1 (06:11):
I saw.

Speaker 2 (06:11):
I didn't listen to the episode yet, but I saw it's
so good, I'm so obsessed, sohappy to be back on it.
But we made jokes the other daythat we're gonna have to have
like a separate podcast that wetalk about sexy stuff, so maybe
we'll just have to have you onand that'll be.
The first episode will be clits, I don't know, throwing it out
there, what do you?

Speaker 1 (06:29):
guys think I mean female anatomy.
It's like so many people likedon't know.
I mean even women, like I knowso many women who have recently
given birth or yeah, or arepregnant, and like they given
birth or are pregnant, and theamount of things that we don't
know.
It's just like it's crazy.
We're just little miracles, Iknow, and we're the portal

(06:53):
between life and death.

Speaker 2 (07:03):
Yes, I love that.
Well, let's dig in, shall weSure?

Speaker 1 (07:04):
Let's go ahead and start.
So every episode that you're onit brings so much fire and
depth and we talk from such adeep place, from the soul, with
everything that we talk about onthe podcast and off the podcast
, and I think that's why webecame such fast friends.
And today we're going to diveinto your latest creation Find
your Face, freedom a powerfuljourney that helps people
reconnect with their expression,their embodiment and their

(07:27):
authentic oh my God, I can'ttalk.
Authentic truth Sounds aboutright.
Cat has a unique gift forguiding others into deeper
alignment with who they reallyare, beyond the mask, the roles,
the noise, and into a place ofself-love and liberation.
So, whether you're an artist, aleader, a seeker or just
someone craving a bit morehonest connection with yourself,

(07:50):
this conversation is definitelygoing to land.
I can feel it already.
So okay, kat, like before, Iguess we've already like, really
dove into, like the deepest ofdepths.
But what's going?

Speaker 2 (08:03):
on in your world.
Catch me up, oh man Beyond.
Find your face.
Freedom, or just along the samelines.
What are we going for?
Life stuff?

Speaker 1 (08:14):
whatever you want to share.

Speaker 2 (08:15):
All right, all right.
Well, I'm going to start with ashout out, even though he's
absolutely not listening to thispodcast.
It's my brother's 40th birthdayand that's a big deal, so I'm
just going to shout him out.
He's, like I said, not going tolisten to this, but you know
it's, it's the energy of it.
I am on vacay right now, visitsome family and my projector,

(08:38):
best friend of 30 years, whichwill be so fun in a couple days
and beyond that.
Man, I have just been goinghard.
I know program.
It has been almost allconsuming.
I don't think I've ever beenmore dialed in to a thing in my
life, definitely not a workthing.

Speaker 1 (08:58):
It has been so like, it's so clear, like just
watching your social media andthe way that you share about it,
it's just like so inspiring.

Speaker 2 (09:06):
Thank you so much.
I have legitimately criedmultiple times just talking
about it, having experienceslike after we have these little
one on one sessions.
I call it my jam sesh.
There have been many a jam seshthat I close my laptop and just
sob about how powerful thiswork is and how much this is

(09:27):
changing people's faces,people's lives.
I really feel like I've foundmy passion and my purpose here
on the world and you know it's.
It is so much further beyondjust what we look like, and I
think that that's the part thatI really want to drive home to
not just people who are maybeface yoga curious or face
freedom curious, but all people,because we know that it's

(09:52):
important to move our bodies, toget blood flow, but we
completely ignore the very topbit, from our neck up.
We're not thinking about themuscles, the movement, the blood
, the lymph, any of these things, or we get stuck in this
thought, thinking that our faceis only what we look like, but

(10:14):
we hear this quote our eyes arethe windows to the soul.
Then what is your face?
The sighting right, it's yourhouse, and what does that look
like?
Do you look tense and stressedand angry, or can you be calm
and peaceful and joyful.

Speaker 1 (10:34):
I love that.
It's about regulating emotionsso much more Like when you talk
about a lot of the face yogastuff.
It's about bringing awarenessto a lot of our habits and what
we're doing already.
And are we scrunching oureyebrows, are we tensing our jaw
, like these are things that Ididn't really think about before
you embarked on your face yogajourney and, kind of like,

(10:57):
brought me along with you forthe ride.

Speaker 2 (10:59):
Yes, and that's the thing.
Most of us don't realize that,and I'll I'll take this moment
listener, if you've got yourheadphones in, or whatever.
I'll maybe say don't do this ifyou're driving or just be very
mindful, but just take a momentto notice.
Are your eyebrows raised orsqueezing together, Even if it's
energetic?
Are you tensing your eyes likeyou need to wear glasses?

(11:19):
Are you scrunching your nose,clenching your jaw, pressing
your lips together, shiftingyour head forward?
Are you scrunching your nose,clenching your jaw, pressing
your lips together, shiftingyour head forward?
Are you breathing shallow?
All of these are things that wecan just pay attention to
throughout the day, which isgoing to make a huge difference
in, again, not just what we looklike, but what we feel like I
know, and we've talked aboutthis a lot too with where we are

(11:40):
in modern society.

Speaker 1 (11:42):
So many of us have fallen victim to the thought
process of like, oh well, if youdon't like it, fix it with
injectables, with plasticsurgery, with like these
invasive practices.
That just the underlyingmessage there is, like you're
not enough the way you are,exactly, and that is so

(12:04):
heartbreaking.

Speaker 2 (12:12):
Yeah, and that's the thing that I really want to get
into with all of my clients andwhoever joins me in this journey
is that there's.
We're not here to fix you.
And I had a.
I had a friend one time very,very devil's advocate friend was
like, well, what if this isjust what I'm supposed to look
like?
And I was like, well, sure, I'mnot going to change your
genetics, we're not going tochange the color of your eyes

(12:32):
and update, we're not going tochange your skin color, we're
not going to do any of thesethings, but I can make you look
less stressed.
You're not supposed to looklike you're in pain.
You're not supposed to looklike you're in pain.
You're not supposed to looklike life is so hard.
And I think that that excuse ofoh, I'm just supposed to look
this way is a cop-out, becauseyou could say that about your

(12:55):
body also.
Oh well, I'm just supposed tolook this way, I'm just supposed
to be whatever you know, youcan say I'm not, I'm not gonna
say it.
Maybe this is just my body typeand maybe it is.
But have you tried working out?
Have you tried walking?
Have you tried eating better?
And these aren't things just toagain look better.

(13:17):
I don't eat a salad just sothat I can look hot.
We need to eat salad so thatour bodies can function better.
And the same thing with ourface, and I think that it's just
become this thing that hasturned into only aesthetics, and
of course, aesthetics matterespecially to I would say,
especially to ladies, but Ithink that aesthetics matter to

(13:39):
men too.
I'm secretly working on a faceyoga for dudes.
Oh, I love that thought.
Yeah, I'm really working on aface yoga for dudes oh.
I love that thought, yeah, I'mreally excited for it.

Speaker 1 (13:49):
So planting seeds.
Yeah, oh, my gosh, that's soperfect, and I think just
creating these spaces for men tomake it more approachable and
comfortable like that's so great.
I mean a majority.
I teach 10 plus yoga classes aweek and I would say that more
than 90% of participants arewomen.
I would love to see more guysin the space.

(14:10):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (14:11):
And that's.
I feel like it's important forus to make it accessible and not
scary, and that's the thing.
I have a few private yogaclients that are men and they
are nervous to go to a yogastudio because it's scary and
it's weird and everyone'sstaring at you and with our face
.
Yoga, yeah, we're making funnyfaces and it's weird, but you

(14:32):
probably care about what youlook like, even just a little
bit.
And, as I like to say to anymen who come into my classes,
dudes have faces too and it'sjust as important that we work
them out.
And in this very first round ofFind your Face Freedom, we
actually did have one dude.
It was my very own husband.
I even made him go through adiscovery call and signed him up

(14:56):
and sent him all the emails andstuff, but he went through most
of the flow with us and hadthese amazing experiences of
recognizing how many times hewould put himself down for what
he looked like or what he wasdoing or not doing.
And this is just a way for usto also create some

(15:17):
self-compassion.
Because here's the thing youprobably aren't going to work
out or work out your face for anhour every single day.
You probably are going to missa salad one day.
You're probably going to miss awalk one day, and let that be
okay.
Not let that be the thing thatmakes you fall off the wagon
yeah.
Exactly, the wagon doesn't evenexist.

Speaker 1 (15:38):
Yeah, you know what?
I notice it so much in my ownpractices Like I'll be really
consistent for a while and thenI'll like let it trickle off and
then I'll completely fall offfor a little while and then it's
like somewhere down the line Icome back to it and it's like
why did I stop doing?

Speaker 2 (15:54):
this, yes, and it's usually just like one day that
was weird, and then we let thatone day control us.
And you know I'm not immune tothis either.
I don't practice face yogaevery day and I will be the
first one to tell you that andall your listeners that, and all
my students that, because thatwas one of the themes that kept

(16:15):
coming up in this first round ofmy program was my clients were
saying, oh my God, I didn't doenough today.
Or oh, I don't think I'm doingenough.
I didn't do X, y, z.
It's fine Even if you don'tpractice face yoga, but you can
just practice being more awareof your face.
Your face will change and I canpromise you that, because my

(16:37):
face has changed just withawareness.
Seven years ago I had properlines on my forehead, and now I
don't, because I've been moreaware of what I'm doing with my
face.
And, yeah, I had proper lineson my forehead and now I don't,
because I've been more aware ofwhat I'm doing with my face.
And, yeah, I practice face yogahere and there, but it's been
so much more of the practicesthat come from the outside of
that as well.

Speaker 1 (16:56):
Well, I think too, like when we say it's like, when
we talk about yoga, it's like,oh, I didn't practice yoga today
.
It's like, no, I didn'tpractice the physical practice
of yoga today, but there's somuch more that I was actually
doing that doesn't look likesitting on the mat.

Speaker 2 (17:10):
Yes, it's that concept of asana versus
everything else and we conflateyoga with asana.
And I want to separate facefreedom, which is my creation,
from just face yoga, becauseface freedom is about so much
more.
We're tuning into our habits,our awarenesses, we're creating

(17:32):
routines, we're developinglittle rituals for ourselves,
we're creating self compassion.
All of these things are just asimportant as the movements, as
the practices, as the exercises.
And I'll shout out one of myFace Freedom founders from this
first round, ingrid.
She was so excited about theexercises.

(17:52):
All she wanted to do wasexercises, learn new stuff,
exercise, exercise, exercise.
And then, when she started toget into the slower stuff, the
tension release, the massaging,the squeezing, the awareness she
realized that that was the gamechanger.
It was being more gentle withherself.
That was making the difference,not constantly exercising.

(18:15):
And it's again the same thingwith our bodies.
If you were working out liftingweights seven days week and you
literally never stretched, youwouldn't feel very good.
But if you threw in somestretching, and maybe an equal
amount of stretching for howmuch working out you're doing,
you will feel different.

Speaker 1 (18:34):
Yes, oh, my God, I love that you just brought that
up because it's like sosynchronistic.
But yesterday I have a new TAlike teacher's assistant in one
of my classes and she has beenwith me for about a month now.
So she takes class with meevery Monday night and my Monday
night is like a verytherapeutic class.

(18:54):
It like the hardest thing we dois tabletop like it.
We, you would love it.
Actually, we spend a majorityof the time laying down either
on our back or on our bellies.
It's a lot of mobility worksprinkled in with some yin, some
restorative and lots of breathwork and meditation and pausing.
And she was a, she is a, she isa self-proclaimed gym rat.

(19:18):
So she would tell me like shewas and she's in college.
So there's no reason you shouldbe tight, tense, tense and like
not have flexibility whenyou're 19 years old yeah um.
So she said yesterday, in justthese like four short weeks,
that her body has changedincredibly.

(19:39):
Like she, her hips feeldifferent.
She was like I feel like I walkdifferent.
She like I feel like I'mwalking with more awareness and
more presence and just allowingmyself to really, um, like let
go of that tension fromweightlifting.
And she said the doing both hasnot only improved her, like

(20:00):
what she's doing in the gym, butlike just her every day.
She just like feels better,moves better.
And I was like, wow, that'spretty fucking awesome.

Speaker 2 (20:08):
That's amazing Cause, yeah, when you have more
mobility, it is easier for youto work out.
You can lift up heavier weightswhen you are more mobile and
more flexible.
And that's the thing is that wecan utilize these different
classes, these different tools,these different resources to
teach us how to live differently, how to move differently.

(20:29):
It's even like massage therapy.
You can not ever get a massageand feel all tight and tense
forever.
Same thing with.
You can get not a great massageand just feel okay, maybe
sometimes even more tense, andthen you can have a massage
therapist like Gianna who isdialing you in and telling you
about you know different musclesand how to relax and all of

(20:51):
this stuff.
You can take your body toanother level when you're
working with someone who hasthese tools and resources to
help take you there.

Speaker 1 (21:00):
Yes, and circling back to what we said before, is
it is really intimidating andlike scary to be a beginner at
anything at anything.
And you know, I see it in myyoga classes all the time, like
the people who come in for thefirst time, they're so timid and
they're like not sure andthey're like, oh my God, should
I even be here, do I belong here?
And you know, I've been abeginner at things.

(21:23):
I've been a beginner at yogaonce upon a time and I
definitely had those, thosefeelings as well.
But like if I could just saysomething to the listeners or
you know, whoever.
It's like allow yourself thatuncomfortability to be the
beginner, because there's suchbeauty that comes from that.
And I've talked about this onthe podcast, actually fairly

(21:45):
recently.
But when I first startedteaching yoga, I was teaching
like a beginner one-on-one classand it was really hard for me
to relate to like how I shouldbe teaching, how I should be
showing up, how much was toomuch?
Was I pushing people too hard?
Was my classes too challenging,too easy, like all of this
stuff.
And my cousin brought me rockclimbing and I went rock

(22:06):
climbing for the first time andI got to like see through the
eyes of a beginner and thatreally changed the way that I
showed up as a teacher.
I felt like that littlereminder just helped me relate
to what it's like to show up tobe a beginner and not know what
to do at all and just like needthe guidance.
So I think it's alwaysimportant to have those, those

(22:29):
little reminders, and I alwaysgo back to that experience from
time to time, because now Idon't teach one-on-one classes,
I teach more like all levelsclasses and I want everyone to
have a good, successful class.
But it just makes me relate tothe beginners a little bit
differently.

Speaker 2 (22:46):
Yeah Well, and being a beginner, it's so beautiful
and I feel very compassionateand compelled to teach beginners
.
I love teaching beginning yoga.
I mean, the main thing thatI've been doing for the last two
years has been teaching at aresort.
So no one's there to like dohard yoga and teaching
bachelorette parties.
So sometimes they're hungoverand they're also not there to do

(23:08):
hard yoga.
So my usual flow like I've gota, I've got a pretty like dialed
in, it's fun, it's groovy.
We stand up a couple of times.
Then that's the hardest thingthat we do, and people are like
oh my God, that feels amazing.
My body feels so good.
I've never done anything likethis.
And if you, if I, was trying toteach something harder, more

(23:33):
pumped up, just to like showthem and go hard, they wouldn't
have that experience.
Right, you wouldn't be able toget stretchy and lean into.
What does my body feel like ifwe're doing chaturangas and like
camel in the middle of a class?
It's not appropriate forbeginners.

Speaker 1 (23:47):
It's not.
And you know, honestly,chaturanga is such a bullshit
thing and I've been talkingabout it in my classes a lot
lately because what we know herein the West as chaturanga high
plank to low plank it doesn'teven exist in traditional yoga.

Speaker 2 (24:02):
Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 (24:03):
So there's like this, really awesome.
I don't even know what it'scalled, but it's like this
orange book and it's like one ofthe traditional yogic texts.
You cannot find a high to lowplank in that fucking book,
because in traditional yoga wayback 5,000 years ago they were
not doing a tricep pushup, no,they were fucking not.

Speaker 2 (24:26):
Tricep push-up no, they were fucking not.
It's crazy.
I I don't think I've properlytaught a chaturanga in years and
I like literally years.
I've been teaching yoga for 12years.
I stopped teaching chaturangaprobably about three years ago
and I'll maybe only do it ifI've got a class of gals who are
like really pumped up, they doyoga, they, they want to go
hardcore and then I let them doit, give them the option to go

(24:47):
on their knees.
But I took a class the other dayI just want to throw this in
there with a teacher who's beenteaching for a long time.
It was supposed to be abeginning or all levels class.
We literally did a camel in themiddle of it, which I could
scream about because that's notappropriate, but we were doing
chaturangas and we'd pigeon, wedid all kinds of crazy stuff

(25:08):
that I'm like my, my yogateacher soul is just screaming
Because you know we can takethese things to this high level.
But that's not always the placewhere we need to start, and
that's what I do with Find yourFace.
Freedom is that we are actuallystarting at the beginning, like

(25:28):
you don't know what face yoga is.
You've never heard of it before, you don't know anything about
your face and we go through this12 week journey where we're
learning not only what isactually on our face and why it
is there, but then what we cando about it, from the most basic
things to the most wild things,and even that most wild thing.

(25:51):
You know, it took us a longwhile to get there.
I was not about to teach thathardest pose to my students
earlier than week 10.
And that's when we did it.

Speaker 1 (26:04):
Well, that makes it a lot more digestible and just
like comfortable being abeginner, and I think that you
know it should be the goal ofall teachers, not just yoga
teachers, to make it thatpalatable.

Speaker 2 (26:21):
Yeah, I mean you don't send your six year old to
12th grade.
You know you put them inkindergarten you know, you put
them in kindergarten.
Side note.
I remember the very first dayof kindergarten realizing, oh my
God, I've got 13 years left ofthis, and that was like a really
depressing moment for a sixyear old or five year old.

(26:41):
I was like, well, this is likea really high thought.

Speaker 1 (26:44):
I fucking hated school and I think it was the
worst.
My mom sent me to thispreschool and kindergarten.
That was kind of likealternative learning, like now.
It would be probably like acrunchy mom's school where, like
, crunchy moms send theirchildren.

Speaker 2 (27:01):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (27:01):
But we were outside for like 90% of the day.
There was like a heavy emphasison nature.
We did like nature walks.
There was like a pond on site,a heavy emphasis on nature, we
did like nature walks, there waslike a pond on site.
So when I went from that toactual school, I had a very
similar experience and so I wentfrom that to a Catholic first
grade, a Catholic private schoolfor first grade, and my teacher

(27:24):
was such a fucking wench Like Ithink about her all the time
and actually it's funny I thinkI've talked about her on the
podcast, like in very recentepisodes like four years ago um,
because, like what she did,like literally ingrained in my
brain like she was a person who,if she didn't like what you
were, how you were behaving orwhatever, like you basically got

(27:45):
shamed in front of the entireclass.
Oh, and like if I ever run intoher in this healed version of me
, like I would let her knowexactly what she did.

Speaker 2 (27:56):
Yeah, well, and this is the thing it's.
I think it's funny that we bothare like, oh, school sucks, but
then we're both teachers.

Speaker 1 (28:02):
Yes, and love learning and, like, haven't
stopped being a student indifferent spheres.

Speaker 2 (28:08):
Yes, and I think that that's really a magical thing
and it's funny.
I told you that I'm about tosee my best friend of 30 years
in a few days.
She and I used to play teacherwhen we were six and seven.
We actually went to like theteacher supply store and would
buy grade books and write ourown curriculums and make quizzes
and quiz each other and gradeeach other, and it was just this

(28:29):
whole teacher play moment.
And now I'm like, oh, I'mactually doing that.
I actually built a curriculumand have made homework and
worksheets and I'm connectingwith my students and guiding
them on a journey.
I'm like, oh my God, I'm doingthe thing that was so
challenging for me to receiveand I think that this is a thing

(28:50):
that happens to a lot of peopleis that we maybe experience
something in a challenging wayand then that ends up being our
purpose is to help other peoplemove through it in a less
challenging way.

Speaker 1 (29:02):
Yes, it's so funny.
My friend, jamie always saysyour mess is your message and
Jamie always says your mess isyour message.
Ooh, I like that, yeah, yeah,and I found it to be true in my
own life, like same, like Ihated.
It's funny.
I hated school, but my cousin,andrea and I, when we were
little, like that's what wewould play, like all we would do
was play school.

(29:23):
So, like, I've always putmyself in the uncomfortable
situation, even though, like, Ididn't necessarily like, love it
.
But I have found a way to learnto love it, like when I went to
massage school.
That really changed the gamefor me with the way that we were
learning, and I just feel likeit's finding what works for you

(29:44):
and for a lot of people.
Like sitting in a classroomstuck at a desk, it ain't it?

Speaker 2 (29:48):
Yes, well, for a lot of people, like sitting in a
classroom stuck at a desk, itain't it?
Yes, well, for a lot of people,it's permission and that was
something that came up a fairbit in this first round of Find
your Face Freedom of peoplesaying like, oh my God, I'm
behind on the homework.
I'm like, girl, there is nohomework, you do whatever you
want to do.
And I think that that givespeople permission to really sink

(30:09):
into what's exciting to me.
Because, yeah, every weekyou're going to get, you know,
say, 10 different things thatyou could do, and they could be
this journal prompt or thatjournal prompt or this little
exercise, that little exercise,and you should do the things
that light you up, because ifnot, then you're just slogging
through, you're not excitedabout it, then you're just

(30:29):
slogging through, you're notexcited about it and you're not
going to get the good results.
And that's the same with, say,our face yoga practice.
If you're going into itthinking, oh my God, I have to
do this, it's got to be an hour,I've got to sit in front of the
mirror, it's so boring, I hatethis exercise.
You're actually going to bemaking a bad face during that.
You're not going to beexperiencing good results,

(30:50):
whereas if you can go into yourpractice, saying, all right, let
me pop on this playlist that Imade makes me feel so excited
and jazzed and I'm going to dothese exercises that make me
feel good and I'm going to pickout my favorite ones and the
ones that are lighting me up,you're going to be excited,
you're going to want to do itmore, you're going to want to do

(31:15):
it more, you're going to do itfor longer and you're going to
have way better results.
So I think that if we canapproach all of life with a more
positive attitude, a moreexcited, joyful attitude, then
we'll want to do those thingsRight, yeah absolutely.

Speaker 1 (31:21):
I mean, it's the same thing with, like all of those
mundane things that you have todo.
But, like you know, I always goback to this with like cleaning
and doing dishes, Like Ifucking hate it, but honestly,
like once it's done, thatfeeling of it being done and in
a clean, tidy space, like that'sthe good feeling.
So like holding onto that whileI'm doing it, versus like oh, I

(31:41):
fucking hate this.
It's like oh, but the processgets me to the end result that I
.
That makes me feel so damn good.

Speaker 2 (31:49):
Yes.
And how can you make theprocess more fun?
Can you have a doing dishesplaylist that you can like,
dance and groove to?
Could you stand in tree posewhile you're doing these plates?
Can you make it a game of howmany dishes you can wash without
rinsing them?
Yet you know we can have all ofthese ways that we can make
life more fun, and that would bethe same with going to yoga.

(32:11):
Can you wear your favoriteoutfit?
That can be the same with goingto the gym.
Can you put on some groovytunes?
Can you get excited about whatit is that you're doing?

Speaker 1 (32:23):
Get excited for life.

Speaker 2 (32:25):
Yes, I love that.

Speaker 1 (32:27):
Yeah, I mean I feel like this energy has been coming
back to me, like I it's funny,like today is overcast and kind
of gross, but we've had a coupleof really nice days and I've
got to sit in the sun and it waslike warm and like we made it
through winter here in newEngland and there's nothing
better than that feeling of likemaking it to the other side and

(32:49):
I totally forgot where we weregoing with this, but it, oh I
know.
So I really got to like diveinto like oh well, the winter's
over, the winter blues aresubsiding, and a little bit of
sunshine, a little bit of naturereally does just like
invigorate you.

Speaker 2 (33:05):
Yes, and tuning into what invigorates you listener,
because maybe it's nature, maybeit's sunshine, maybe it's rain,
maybe it's music, maybe it'scolors, maybe it's jewelry,
maybe it's painting your nails.
There's all of these differentways that we can move through
life and express ourselves thatreally makes a difference in how

(33:28):
you show up in the world.

Speaker 1 (33:30):
Yes, I love that, I love that.

Speaker 2 (33:35):
Yeah, and it can feel silly.
I'm on a podcast with you rightnow.
We're not even on video.
I'm wearing my very favoritesnake necklace because it makes
me feel really happy, and itdoesn't matter.
I'm sitting in my aunt's house,I'm like wearing earrings and
stuff.
I literally got dressed todayfor this because it makes me
feel better.
And I think that we've all hadthat experience.

(33:57):
You know where, say, maybewe've had one experience where
you go to the grocery store insweats, right, you're sick, your
hair's a mess, you're likeplease let me not run into
anyone.
And then inevitably you do, youfeel like garbage, whatever.
But then we've also had theflip side, where maybe we go out
dancing and you've picked outyour favorite outfit and your

(34:18):
jewels up and maybe makeup onhair done, and you're feeling
like a badass and you movethrough life differently.
So I think that this whole ideaand what I've created is to
help us move through lifedifferently.
So I think that this whole ideaand what I've created is to
help us move through lifedifferently, because I think
that too many of us get stuck inthis place of feeling like life
is hard, everything's hard andI'm just stuck like this, or you

(34:44):
know, oh, I'm stuck in thisstress and I can't do anything
about it.
There are so many things thatyou can do about it.

Speaker 1 (34:51):
So, with that being said, for anyone listening who
might be feeling a little stuckand how they show up or maybe
even a little bit afraid to befully seen because I know a lot
of us in the teaching space likewe've worked through that of
like being afraid to be fullyseen and then working through
that and then showing up morefully so like what is one small
step that somebody feeling thosethings could take to reclaiming

(35:13):
their voice or expression?

Speaker 2 (35:15):
Honestly, I feel like just looking at yourself in the
mirror and I know that thatsounds cheesy, right, that's
like eye gazing, you know.
Look, look into your own eyesand tell yourself that you love
yourself.
That might be really hard, andI want to acknowledge that that
might be really hard, because alot of us might look in the
mirror and the first thing thatyou want to do is say like, oh

(35:37):
that line, oh this face, ohthese lips, blah, blah, blah,
blah, blah our whole laundrylist of all the things that we
hate about ourselves.
But what if you could look intoyour own eyes as if you were
another person?
Or maybe not even just anotherperson like a stranger, but
another person like your bestfriend?
How would you look into yourbest friend's eyes, or your
partner's eyes or your child'seyes?

(35:59):
How can we do this and loveourselves in that kind of way?
I think that that would be thefirst step to really reclaiming
who you are, what you look like,who this person is that you're
showing up as honestly.

Speaker 1 (36:13):
I always try to remind myself.
So I call creator energy Godand, like everyone, do with that
what you will, but I am goingto speak to it from that lens.
It's like God is perfect, god'screation is perfect and he
created you so like you areperfect, yeah.

Speaker 2 (36:34):
You're perfect just the way that you are.
And if you want to make acouple updates, if you want to
feel a little bit better, that'sokay too.
Yeah, and you know all all ofthe other things we kind of like
very briefly touched on.
You know, injections or surgery, whatever like those things are
are there and you can do themif you want.

(36:54):
But I think that the mostimportant thing when it comes to
those things is being aware ofthe risks, actually having
informed consent, which is notjust signing a paper.

Speaker 1 (37:05):
It's FDA approved.

Speaker 2 (37:06):
Yeah, it's not just signing a paper that they shove
at you and not reading it, likewe all don't read our Apple
terms and conditions, but thisis actually sitting in the room
with the doctor and saying, okay, how does this injection work?
What are the things that couldpossibly go wrong?
Why is this for me?
Why could it not be for me?
What might happen if somethingdoes go wrong?

(37:28):
And I think that it's importantthat we know those things,
because otherwise then we justgo into it blind, thinking that
this is a save all.

Speaker 1 (37:38):
Yes, and also that, oh, this injection is going to
make me feel better.
And it might on the surface,but it it's only a bandaid on
the problem.
It's not really going to healthe root issue.

Speaker 2 (37:52):
Yes, it's absolutely a bandaid because, as we all
know, it goes away.
It goes away within three tofour months.
But the thing is, you know, Ihave had a client tell me, oh,
but I just like the way that Ilook with Botox better.
And I'm like, well duh,wouldn't we all, wouldn't we all
, like to be smooth and totallyunmoving?

(38:13):
Sure, I like the way I lookwith makeup better.
I like the way I look with afilter better.
Those aren't real.
That's not you.
So can we again address the rootof the problem?
Because the root of the problemis you don't love yourself.
So let's figure that shit outbefore we start injecting,

(38:33):
applying, putting these frickingfilters.
I'm just going to take a momentto go off the rails on filters,
because we have talked aboutfilters before.
And, girl, it is like it likehurts my soul and my heart.
I have a couple of I'll callthem friends, but like they're
kind of more acquaintances Ilegit don't know what they look
like because they always usefilters.

(38:54):
And there are these filtersfrom Instagram that they're
called like natural and clean,and it basically just makes you
look filtered, distorted.
Distorted, yeah, it makes yourskin all smooth and it makes
your lips more red, distorted.
Yeah, it makes your skin allsmooth and it makes your lips
more red.
And I've done a couple of likeside-by-sides and it actually
freaks me out because I'm likethat's not what I look like.

(39:16):
But then I see these girls.
I'm not going to name them.
I never tag them when I talkabout filters, but I will say,
hey, you know who you are.
Filter queens I don't know whoyou are and the thing is with
that.
If you're a content creator, ifyou're putting things out there

(39:37):
, understand that you wantpeople to see the best version
of you.
Right, you got a big zit onyour face.
Maybe you want to cover thatbad boy up.
But if you're constantly usinga filter, people don't know who
you actually are.
The biggest thing is you don'tknow who you actually are.
The biggest thing is you don'tknow who you actually are.
If we're only ever looking atfiltered photos of ourselves,
you legit don't know what youlook like, because you're going
to like that version better,because that version is better.

(39:59):
And then you get stuck in thistrap of comparing.
You take an unfiltered selfieand some weird light and you
feel like you look like crap.
And who is that person staringat you.
Yeah, it's you, baby.
That's your hideous troll face,just kidding.
That's your beautiful face.

Speaker 1 (40:17):
No, it's so true, and this is something that I've
talked about the last couple ofyears.
I was one of those filterqueens and I have made a
conscious effort to not do thatanymore, because it first of all
, I always look through things,or, since I've gotten older, I
always look through thingsthrough the lens of my now 15
year old cousin, and she hasgrown up in a time that's only

(40:41):
social media.
So if women like us, who knowbetter, who are a little bit
wiser, have a little bit moreexperience under our belt, are
only showing up in thesefiltered lights, like what is
that message that we're sendingto the younger generations?
It's telling them that they'renot good enough yeah.
And there's nothing and you cando all the plastic surgery and

(41:01):
injectables you want.
You will never look like thatfilter, Never never.

Speaker 2 (41:05):
And that's the thing.
Oh my God, these girls aretaking their filtered photos to
men's laws, to the plasticsurgery yes, yeah, and it's like
, oh, can you make me look likethis Girl?
No, can you learn to loveyourself for who you are?
Because, like you said, godmade you this certain way and I
understand that.
You know, okay, if you've gotsomething crazy going on, if

(41:26):
there is something that is likemedically necessary, if you are
like, oh my gosh, I've literallyhated this part of myself my
whole entire life, fine girl.
But the thing is, we are livingin this world of fake and all of
the celebs are not beingtruthful about what it is that
they're doing.
And then even us in our 30s I'min my deep 30s, girl I see

(41:50):
these other celebs, some of themwho are not that much older
than me, or some of them who areyounger than me, are'm wrinkly,
I'm not good enough, and I'm 37.
And that's hard to deal with asa yoga teacher a face yoga

(42:13):
teacher.
So how would a 15 year oldlittle girl be dealing with this
when she's already gotself-esteem issues, when she's
already thinking that she's notpretty enough, not good enough,
not whatever enough, and thenbeing pushed that she needs to
start getting baby Botox in her20s.
That is not okay.
So I'm here for not only mysisters and my peer group, but

(42:36):
also my little sisters.
I want to be that natural agingrole model for the gals in
their 20s and their teens rightnow who are thinking that 37 is
old, thinking that 37 is old.
I got asked the other day.
I was out dancing and ithappened to be Greek life day
and I'm dancing by this girl andshe's like, oh yeah, I'm here
with my little and I'm like, ohcool, what sorority are you in?

(42:58):
She tells me and then she goeswhat about you?
I'm like, bitch, I'm 37, butalso Kappa, alpha, theta.
So I just said that and then Iwas like, yeah, I joined in 2009
.
And I'm like she was probablylike in diapers in kindergarten.
And you know, it's again not forme to be out here trying to be

(43:22):
21 or trying to pass for 21.
It's not about looking young,it's about accepting ourselves
for who we are.
And I'm going to just keep mymic because I want to share this
other anecdote from our firstround of our group.
I had this assignment where wehad to share our natural aging

(43:42):
role model, which was very hardfor all of us because, like, who
do you pick who is agingnaturally?
And someone picked her mom,which I thought was really sweet
and precious, but it was reallychallenging for the rest of us.
And we had this moment where wewere just like talking about
aging naturally and, oh my God,I just lost the whole thread of

(44:05):
my thought and I'm not going tojust keep talking if I've
totally lost it.
Where were we at before?

Speaker 1 (44:10):
So you were sharing an anecdote about your first
round and sharing your naturalrole model goals, naturally
remember what it was.

Speaker 2 (44:25):
So this was when someone was like picking out,
like, oh, if I had been able topick a few years ago, I would
have picked Nicole Kidman.
And we were all like, okay,obviously you can't pick her now
.
This lady can't close her mouth, okay, you can't tell what
she's trying to emote, becauseher face, her forehead is.

Speaker 1 (44:44):
I know, and it's funny because as you start to
age, your skin also gets thinner.
I know and it's funny becauseas you start to age, your skin
also gets thinner.
So these women who are doingBotox, like her skin on her
forehead looks like you couldjust like rip it.

Speaker 2 (44:55):
Yeah, and she looks like a lizard and she's not an
actress anymore because youcannot tell what her character
is trying to be.
So I shared all of this with mygroup and shared this truth
bomb that I never thought that Iwould say here on a podcast.
But fuck it, this is thepodcast to say it on.
This is the podcast to say iton, and I'm going to try not to

(45:17):
cry because that's not goodpodcast content.
I was sharing this concept ofreally sinking into who we are
and accepting ourselves forwhere we are, because we cannot
freeze ourselves in time.
I do not look 21 and this girlwho's asking me what sorority
I'm in fine, maybe it's dark,maybe I had makeup on, I don't
know, maybe I could pass for 21for like two seconds until you

(45:40):
hear me talk, and then you'relike, okay, clearly she's a
millennial, but I shared that weare not the same people.
There's absolutely no way thatwe can freeze ourselves in time.
So can we learn to accept ourfaces for where they're at now,
which means I feel like I knowthat my most youthful beauty

(46:01):
moments are behind me, prettyand young and whatever, a few
years ago, and now I have awoman face and my eyes are more
deep set, my skin is different,my cheeks are different.
So can I sink into the beautyof my woman face rather than the
beauty of my girl face?

(46:21):
Because I don't have a girlface anymore.
I'm never going to have a girlface again.
I'm 37.
I'm knocking on 40s door, socan I love my almost 40 year old
face?
And, yeah, it's somethingdifferent.
It's not full of collagenanymore, it's not bouncy.
I still get zits, I still havewrinkles.

(46:42):
But can I love myself for thisversion, instead of saying, oh,
but I'm not 25 anymore, you'renot and you can't be again.

Speaker 1 (46:50):
Yeah, so get over it.

Speaker 2 (46:53):
Get over it, sis.

Speaker 1 (46:56):
It's so true because if we freeze ourselves at the
age that we are like we would bedead.
Yeah, yeah, and it would bereally weird.

Speaker 2 (47:05):
Honestly, it would be really weird if I had a 20 year
old face, I think, because thenwe'd all look like Nicole
Kidman.

Speaker 1 (47:14):
But would we?
Because she?
I don't think she looks likeshe's 20 or 30 or even 40
anymore.
I think she looks like a 50 or60-year-old woman that's done a
ton of shit to her face.
Yeah, she looks like a50-year-old lizard and I think
we've talked about this on ourpodcast in the past.
But I have worked at a med spain the past and actually one of

(47:38):
the injectors that I used towork with I actually really
liked her because she wasn'tlike oh, I'm going to make you
look 20 years younger.
She's like no, you're going tolook your age.
You're just going to look yourage with work done.

Speaker 2 (47:46):
I love that, See, and that honesty in that is a
banger.
I follow, actually on Instagrama fair few injectors on my face
yoga page because it'sfascinating to me.
It's fascinating to see whatthey say about this, that and
the other thing.
And there are sometimes thatthere's this one gal I follow
that she's like don't do Botoxin your 20s, that's stupid.

(48:08):
Also, don't do Botox in your30s because that's not what it's
there for.
And if you want to do Botox,then start in your 40s because
that's kind of what it's for andthat's when it matters more.
Blah, blah, blah.
But then there's these otherones who are saying you know, oh
, you got to start your babyBotox in your 20s.
Just get a little bit.
Just get a little bit so thatyou're training your muscles.

(48:28):
You're not training yourmuscles, You're atrophying your
muscles.
You are literally paralyzingyour face from your 20s.
That's your best moment.

Speaker 1 (48:38):
And the real truth of that is they're trying to sell
a drug.
Oh yeah, period.
They're trying to sell a drug,period, end of story.
It's a marketing ploy.
Yeah, it has nothing to do withhow your face is going to react
, how you're going to lookbetter, how it's going to work.
It's actually probably going tostop working when you want it
to work, and then you're goingto be fucked.

Speaker 2 (49:06):
Yeah Well, I feel like and I've shared this with a
fair few of my millennialclients who are very
anti-injection that there'sgoing to be a moment and I think
it's probably going to happenwhen we're like mid-40s, maybe
early 50s, where all of the galswho have been getting Botox are
going to look a lot worse thanus.
And I'll just say that in themost real way.
The thing is, when you areBotoxing your face, you'll have

(49:30):
other muscles start tocompensate for the things that
your paralyzed muscles can't do.
So, say, if you get Botox onthe side of your eye just for
your crow's feet, that muscle isa circle, so if you paralyze
just one side of the circle,then the other sides of the
circle are going to be workingharder.
So if you get Botox on the sideof your eye, you might end up
starting to get a little tinyline right next to your nose

(49:53):
they call them bunny lines, kindof like when you scrunch your
nose up.
And there's not a lot that youcan do about that, say face yoga
wise.
So the thing that might happento these gals I'll say just gals
, people who are getting Botoxis that they're going to have
wrinkles that can't be addressedby face yoga, Because face yoga
is for the way that our facesnaturally move, and how can we

(50:18):
adjust these things or affectthese things in the way that
faces are made to move?
So I think that there's goingto be a moment where the the
natural aging girlies are gonnapop up and everyone's gonna be
like oh my god, we're gonna haveour moment yeah, and we're
gonna be like oh yeah, we nevergot botox we never got botox.

Speaker 1 (50:36):
We use castor oil and beef tallow on our face.

Speaker 2 (50:38):
Yes, I love that.

Speaker 1 (50:41):
You know my boyfriend's grandmother.
She is in her late 80s and herskin is so beautiful and she
swears she has used vitamin Eoil her entire life and she
swears that that's that's thekey.

Speaker 2 (50:54):
That's amazing.
Well, and that's the thing isthat, like, start asking the
people around you.
You know your mom, your aunts,your grandmas, other people's
moms, aunts, grandmas.
You know what's, what's yourskincare routine, and sometimes
y'all it's genetics, right, I'mnot going to lie, genetics is a
very, very big part of what welook like, our facial structure,
our muscle movement, what welook like, our facial structure,

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our muscle movement, all kindsof things, the density of our
facial tissues all of thatreally, really matters for how
we're aging, and that you canagain check out your parents.
Do they have maybe fewer lines,but they're maybe a little
deeper, or do they have a lot oflittle tiny lines?
That's going to affect howyou're aging also.

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But again, can we learn toaccept these things rather than
living in this society whereit's all about being young?

Speaker 1 (51:47):
That is a mic drop moment.
Drop the mic.
Well, I feel like that is theperfect place.
So you are coming up on yoursecond round of find your face
freedom.
Tell us a little bit about thatyeah, girl.
So uh, miss Gianna is actuallygoing to be in this round yes,
because you know I fell off thewagon the first round, so I will

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be completely transparent aboutthat.

Speaker 2 (52:11):
I love it.
She fell off the invisiblewagon because there ain't no
wagon.
It just wasn't the right moment.
But now it's the right momentbecause here's the thing it's
going to be even better thisround and you can do whatever
you want.
Because again, it's not aboutlike, oh my God, I didn't do
every single assignment, oh myGod, I missed this workshop.
If it takes you more than theamount of time to do it, that's

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fine.
These are tools that you get tohave for the rest of your life
to move through your own facefreedom journey.
So we are starting in just overtwo weeks.
Oh my God, just over two weeks.
Yes, and this episode.
I'm going to put it out today.
Oh yeah, thanks.
Well, amazing, I am debuting ittoday, may 9th, we start.

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I'm looking for five gals orpeople because I'm down for
people Dudes have faces too whoare ready to just like find
their face freedom.
And here's the thing Our facefreedom is again more than about
what we look like.
This is about how you're movingthrough the world.
So we start on May 9th.
We've got six live group calls,which means our whole group gets

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together on Zoom.
Sometimes there will be someteaching and sometimes there
will be some connecting awesomecommunity that we've got on
Slack to connect with our fellowFace Freedom friends and share
our aha moments, questions,thoughts, anything new that's
coming up for us.
Moments, questions, thoughts,anything new that's coming up

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for us.
We also have three one-on-onesessions.
So these are basically privatesessions with me that each
person gets.
Where we dial into your ownpersonal practice plan, which is
what does Gianna's face need?
Because Gianna's face needssomething different than what
Kat's face needs, needssomething different than what
Ryan's face needs, right?
And if we're all just doing thesame face yoga, then we're not

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dialing into who we are.
So these one-on-one sessionsare really an awesome moment for
us to tune into what's actuallygoing on for us.
Every week.
There are weekly emails.
You'll get a playbook that'sgot all kinds of different
explorations, exercises,workshops, prompts I've got a
few recorded workshops that Ifreaking love and love to share,

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and what else?
Just an awesome, awesomecommunity.
But truly, I have seen thepeople in the first round.
Not only do their faces lookdifferent and we're all
attesting to it, you know, we'reon our last live call and's
like oh my God, you look sodifferent, you look so energetic
, you look so lifted, alive, sohappy, so joyful, so peaceful,

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but we feel different and we'removing through life differently,
and I think that that's themain thing.
I think that, yeah, it's coolthat your face might look
different, it's cool that yourcheeks are more lifted, your
jaws more defined, but it'scooler that you feel more
peaceful and you notice thatpeople are talking to you more

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friendly.
Also, what lure that you'vestopped getting tension
headaches.
It's cooler that you realizethat you used to be really mean
to yourself and now you're not.

Speaker 1 (55:13):
And what like better compliment than you look happy,
you look peaceful?
Like there is no bettercompliment, because it's like
yeah, I fucking did that work,get there.
That didn't just like, I didn'tjust wake up on the right side
of the bed.

Speaker 2 (55:28):
Exactly.
It's like the very opposite ofwhen people go.
You look tired, so mean so mean.

Speaker 1 (55:36):
It's so to say I just , I just look like, shit like
fine.

Speaker 2 (55:39):
So if anyone's told you lately that you look tired,
I think you need some facefreedom.
Y'all yeah, hell yeah.

Speaker 1 (55:46):
I would love actually for the you know how I usually
put up a little photo.
You should do your side by side, your before and after.

Speaker 2 (55:53):
Yes, oh, I would love that y'all in 90 days, and I've
I've been practicing face yogafor a while.

Speaker 1 (56:00):
My 90 days of this first five years now.

Speaker 2 (56:03):
Yeah, four, four or five years, four and a half
years, Um, but again, I don'tpractice every day and that's
something that I also reallywant to drive home to the
listeners, to my students, thatit doesn't have to be this all
consuming thing.
I think that there are somewomen out there who spend like
four hours on face care.
Fine, I think that's psychotic,but fine.

Speaker 1 (56:26):
I got.
How do you have those extra?
Yeah, how do you?

Speaker 2 (56:29):
have those extra four hours.
I have so many better things todo with my life, but I can
slide some face yoga in when I'mhanging out watching TV with my
husband.
I can slide some face yoga inwhile I'm getting ready for work
in the morning.
I can slide it in when I wakeup in the morning and get a
little tension and release andsome lymph drainage.
That kind of stuff is importantand it's again, I think, more

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important than what we look likeGetting our lymph flowing.
That's for your body, for yourhealth, for your life, and it's
going to make your face looksnatched Awesome.

Speaker 1 (57:03):
And like talking about vitality, like we know so
little about the lymph and lymphis something that I'm very
passionate about and like morethan one third of our body's
lymph nodes are from ourcollarbones up.
So like you're talking about,like the face and neck and
decollete, like it is animportant part for health.

Speaker 2 (57:23):
It's super important.
That was actually.
Probably my very favorite weekwas the one on lymphatics,
because I learned so much.
I actually spent that wholeweek that I was making that
playbook.

Speaker 1 (57:34):
I made it while I was jumping on the trampoline, so
that was really fun and whatlike, as an adult, to do these
things like jump on a trampoline, like how much joy does that
bring you?
And you're like, oh, and I'mmoving my lymphatic system, oh,
yeah, and that's the thing,y'all it's.

Speaker 2 (57:52):
There's so many more pieces that are important than
again what we look like aremoving our lymph, moving our
blood, moving our muscles.
These are insanely importantand I think that everyone could
attest to that Right.
Any schmo listening to thisright in this very moment could
be like, oh yeah, blood flow,that's a good idea.

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They might not know what lymphis, but they'd be like, oh yeah,
moving your muscles is probablygood.
But when we do things likeparalyze our face muscles with
tox, we are not getting bloodflow, we are not getting lymph
flow and we are not moving ourmuscles.
And when those things areimportant for our life, our
health, our vitality, thenyou're trading your vitality for

(58:36):
your beauty and I'm sorrythat's not a good trade.

Speaker 1 (58:41):
No, I totally agree.

Speaker 2 (58:43):
And because, also, if you bump up your vitality,
you're also going to bump upyour beauty.
One of the gals in my program.
I think one of the biggestshifts that she had was that
lymphatics week where sherealized like, oh, oh, my God,
my cheeks aren't fat, I'm justpuffy.

Speaker 1 (59:01):
Whoa, and like you move the lymph and then you find
out what your face really lookslike.

Speaker 2 (59:05):
Yes, and her face looks totally different, like
her jaw is all defined, hercheeks are super lifted and she
looks like a different person.
Even halfway through theprogram she had these amazing
before and afters, before andmidways, oh.

Speaker 1 (59:22):
I love this.

Speaker 2 (59:24):
This was such an exciting talk.
Yes, oh my gosh.
And I'm so excited for the nextround because I, like I said in
the very beginning, I found mypassion, I found my purpose.
This work is needed and it'salways going to be needed, and
I'm never going to stop doing it.
So if y'all aren't ready tojoin me on May 9th, then get
ready to join me in September,and if you're not ready in

(59:45):
September, then get ready tojoin me in January, and if
you're not ready in January,then I'll be back in May.
So it's just going to keep on,keeping on, and I want you to be
there.

Speaker 1 (59:59):
I love that because you actually posted about this
and you were like, if you don'tread this, if you save it and
look at it six months from now,a year from now, like you're
planting the seed.
So like, don't pressureyourself.
Like for me, like it wasn't afit to do it this winter, it was
just like too crazy.
But, and you know, may might beeven crazier because I, that
Gemini energy swept me in and Iam ready for summer and I

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scheduled like 600 events in May.

Speaker 2 (01:00:24):
So, yes, I love that.
Well then, you know what?
We'll just keep on keeping onin in the most easy way possible
, because the name of mybusiness is Be Easy, and I want
us to just be easy.
Be easy about your homework, beeasy about your program, be
easy about your face, be easyabout your life.
And how can we again just keepreminding ourselves of this?

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Because it's easy to forget.
It's easy in our culture toforget that being calm is good,
because we're so used to justgoing hard, and that's not what
it's about.

Speaker 1 (01:00:59):
No, I totally agree, and like what a projector
sentiment to kind of wrap thingsup on is, like it doesn't have
to be that complicated, youdon't have to put that much
effort in or like grind yourselfdown to the point of burnout,
because like you're doing theopposite of the intended effect,
and so I just think that, yeah,that's such a helpful reminder.

Speaker 2 (01:01:22):
Yeah, we're literally here to have fun and find
freedom and I want us to leaninto that, be easy and find your
face freedom.
It's not about be intense andfind your face perfect, because
that's not real.
And let's have fun with it andlet's be easy with it, and I'm

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excited to flow with you andwhoever else we get the next
round is going to be just themost perfect people, because it
always is.
Everything's always working outfor us.

Speaker 1 (01:01:52):
Make sure to send me that sign up link so I can link
it in the show notes foreveryone.
So if you're hella easy, findyour face freedomcom.
Oh, love that, that'll be.
Everyone will remember that.
So if you are curious aboutthis program or want to reach
out, you can go to find yourface freedomcom.

(01:02:12):
Or cat, where can?

Speaker 2 (01:02:13):
they find you.
You can find me on Instagram.
I am at be easy face yoga.
Those are two separate words beeasy face yoga.
You can also find my website,that's be easy dot life.
And yeah, I would love to befriends with you, love to find
face freedom with you, love tojust be here in the wings for

(01:02:37):
whenever you are ready to diveright in yes, if you're not
ready to sign up for a fullprogram, you have a free offer
too I do.
Yeah, it's my free tensionrelease guide so you can find
that link is on my instagramfree tension release guide and
then you'll also get mynewsletter so you'll be in the
loop in the know for any otherworkshops that I run, any other

(01:02:58):
programs that are coming up.
I probably will eventually havea face freedom light for those
who are like maybe not ready tolike fully dive in but maybe
just get a little bit, a littlebit of freedom.
But the the full program is thejam.
I really encourage you to checkit out.
If anything, just please checkout my website.
It's so beautiful.
I'm very proud of it.

Speaker 1 (01:03:20):
You have done amazing work and in the last couple of
years it's been so inspiring tojust watch you blossom and to
really come into your passion.
So this episode has been, Ifeel like, excited and ready for
life you even look different.

Speaker 2 (01:03:34):
Look at that.

Speaker 1 (01:03:40):
I know I was kind of stressed when we first got on
here, because we were bothrunning a little bit late and I
was just like consumed with allof the shit that I have to do
this week.
And so, yeah, I I feel lighter,I feel better.
So thank you for connectingwith me today.

Speaker 2 (01:03:50):
Yeah, I think we both look a little bit more lifted
and alive and calm.
But, thank you so much for this.
I love chatting with you on thepod, love sharing about this
awesome, awesome thing, andthank you, all listeners, for
being here with us.

Speaker 1 (01:04:08):
Thank you for being here with us.
It's been an amazing episodeand thank you all so much for
tuning into today's episode ofthe Nearly Enlightened podcast.
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answers are already within.