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Discover How Cosmic Events Shape Your Inner World on the Nearly Enlightened Podcast

Ever wondered how the Cancer full moon or natural events like the California fires influence your emotions and energy? Join me, Giana Giarrusso, on the Nearly Enlightened Podcast as I sit down with intuitive healer Danielle Manseau of Venus Rising. Together, we explore the deep connection between cosmic and earthly events and how they mirror our internal emotional states. From releasing outdated energy to embracing the transformative power of adversity, this episode offers insights into navigating personal growth in a fast-paced, chaotic world.

Our conversation dives into the challenges of emotional, energetic, and physical transitions. We discuss how seasonal stress, holiday pressures, and full moons can amplify health and emotional struggles—and why embracing discomfort is key to transformation. Danielle and I share practical tips for grounding, energy cleansing, and finding balance during the colder months.

You’ll also learn how to harness community support and self-care to navigate tough times, while acknowledging the collective growth that happens during chaotic periods. With actionable tools for grounding, healing, and emotional stability, this episode is perfect for anyone seeking to connect more deeply with themselves and the world around them.

Key Takeaways:

• How the Cancer full moon influences emotions and healing
• Grounding techniques to combat emotional and seasonal stress
• The impact of chaotic current events on personal energy
• Practical tools for energy cleansing and self-care during winter
• Why discomfort is a powerful pathway to growth and transformation
• The importance of community support for holistic healing

Don’t miss this empowering episode filled with insights to help you stay grounded, find clarity, and embrace transformation through life’s challenges.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:02):
Welcome to the Nearly Enlightened Podcast.
This is a high vibe toolboxdesigned to help you connect
with your body, mind and spirit.
I am your host, gianna Giarusso, here to guide you on a journey
of self-discovery, healing andgrowth.
Today I'm joined by the amazingDanielle Manseau of Venus
Rising, an intuitive healer andthe heart behind Venus Rising.
Danielle combines NativeAmerican and Peruvian shamanic

(00:23):
practices with modern tools tohelp us navigate the beautiful
and messy healing journey.
In this episode, we're divinginto the symbolism and impacts
of things like the Californiafires, the collective energy
we're all feeling because ofthis full moon happening while
we're recording.
Tomorrow we'll still be in thefull moon energy, but we'll be

(00:47):
moving out of that and we'regoing to help find personal
opportunities for growth, evenin challenging times.
Danielle shares her deepunderstanding of energy and
balance, offering insights andpractices to help you release
what no longer serves you,embrace your true self and stay
aligned in life's ebb and flow.

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Whether you're navigating toughemotions, looking for clarity
in these crazy times or seekingways to feel more grounded, this
conversation is here to inspireand support you.
Let's dive in and get nearlyenlightened together.
Welcome back, danielle.
Thank you for having me.
Thanks for being here, so Iknow I touched on it a little

(01:28):
bit, but we're in this full moonenergy and this cancer full
moon.

Speaker 2 (01:33):
It's rocky, a little rocky.
It's pretty rough actually, I'mnot gonna lie.

Speaker 1 (01:39):
Well, I think, like, so we can talk a little bit
about this, but, like the cancerfull moon, we're really going
deep into the feminine energies,deep into, like, the healing
waters, deep into emotions.
Yes, and it's very heightenedright now, I think, because of
where we are politically andlike everything that's been

(01:59):
going on in California not justCalifornia, but like Asheville,
california, not just California,but like Asheville um, it's
just highlighting like a lot of,I think injustice is is the
word that's coming to mind forme right now um, so it's just
like, for me, I know, it's justlike highlighting those things
and then the personal gets somuch more, um, heightened

(02:21):
because of that too, because,like tell me if I'm wrong, but
like tensions are so high newsand like what we're seeing on
social media, so that makes allof like the personal feel like
just as insane as well, if notamplifying it more honestly?

Speaker 2 (02:40):
yeah, because we're already in these like muddy
emotional waters, so it's likewe're being reflected back like
what's inside of us, so likewhat we're seeing and we're
supposed to be in winter, whichis a time of stillness and
really just like trusting thatall the inner work that you've
done is going to finally comeinto, like be fully realized and

(03:06):
be a full transformation.
But with that we're supposed tolike sit back and trust.
So we're still being shakingout all of our fears.
We're shaking out all thethings that are still affecting
us and triggering us and all theemotions that are like kind of
filled deep inside beingsuppressed.
So this is all shaking out forus, like as a big collective

(03:27):
right now, and we're seeing it,and you know this, I've said it
before that the physical is themost dense.
So when we like rewrite acontract energetically or we
decide, hey, I'm going to letthis go and I'm going to step
into a new part of myself, I'mgoing to let this go and I'm
going to step into a new part ofmyself and I'm going to become

(03:48):
different, I'm going to dream myreality into something
different.
Now we're seeing that physical,that physical kind of I don't
want to call it a repercussionbecause, like, everything is
forward, moving, even when wefeel like we're taking giant
steps back, but when you thinkabout it, the physical is the
most dense.
So, like energy, we can be like, okay, clear the energy, but
then your physical body, yourphysical space, everything

(04:12):
around you is going to take timebecause it's more dense and
those things need to break downand release the energy.
So what we're seeingcollectively is a big release,
but of course there's fear inbeing able to trust and discern
and putting up those boundariesof like.
This is what I believe and thisis what I don't, but there's so

(04:32):
much information coming at usthat is extremely overwhelming.

Speaker 1 (04:35):
Yes, and it's coming at us like faster than ever.
And I think something else totouch on.
I think it's really interestinglike all of the buzz around
Mark Zuckerberg and him comingout with like the fact checkers
and just like you know, I don'twant to put my tin foil hat back
on, but just another win forthe conspiracy theorist.

(04:57):
It's like we totally likeostracized and people a huge

(05:26):
apology because a lot of thesethings that we chalked up as
like crazy conspiracy theories,um, we're seeing in real time
that it it's real.
And, uh, mark zuckerberg comingout and talking about the fact
checking and now he's going backon the fact checking it's going
to be community guidelines andsaying that he was threatened by
the Biden administration.
It's like we need to reallytake a hard look at this and

(05:49):
start holding people accountable.
And I think he is trying tofind a scapegoat or you know
whatever.
But he testified under oathabout a lot of this stuff and
what he said on the Joe Roganpodcast kind of contradicts some
of the stuff that he was sayingunder oath and so, like you
said, it's really it brings up alot of emotion when we're asked

(06:13):
to flex that discernment muscleand discernment can be really
hard.
It can be really hard to trustyour gut and and to especially
if it's going against themainstream narrative to like
really stand firm in that.
And I think that's what we'reseeing happening right now in
California, like we're seeing agross misuse of government funds

(06:39):
, and how the state is being ledthere and how it's being led
through this, this tragedy, andwhether or not it was government
started, that's like aconversation for another day.
But I think it's important tojust look at leadership and it's
going to wake a lot of peopleup and we have to start making

(07:00):
changes.
And I don't want to talk aboutjust the problems and like all
of the things that need tochange, but really finding
solutions.
And I think that one of theeasiest way to find those
solutions is to and I talkedabout this a little bit last
season is to allow yourself tobe the observer, to practice

(07:24):
meditation, to practice goingwithin and get to know that
little voice inside.
Because the more you kind ofwork with that little voice
inside your intuition, the moreyou learn to trust, the deeper
the calls are, or the louder thecalls are, and it just becomes

(07:44):
easier to kind of weed throughall of the chaos that swirls
around us.

Speaker 2 (07:53):
Yeah, we have to remember to like when we're
dealing with like social mediaand so much information coming
at us at once is like thefurther you go down the rabbit
hole, it's like kind of like thefurther your energy expands out
.
And if you're not rememberingto like pull your energy back to
you, it's harder to stay inalignment with the truth of who
you are and what your truebeliefs and everything and I was

(08:15):
trying to pull up on my phonejust now, but Marianne
Williamson said last year thatI'm going to try and quote it
the best I can, because I couldnot find the direct quote was
that like we need to.
We are going to simultaneouslybe helping old systems die while
we are birthing, helping tobirth a new earth.

(08:37):
And that's honestly exactlywhat's happening right now is
we're seeing where all thesesystems have been failing
insurance, we've been like thewater supply, whatever,
everything going on withcalifornia, and then this is
just like the our main focus,and I understand there's more
things going on in the world,but we you have to understand
like this is our immediatereality.

(08:59):
When we're far away andthousands and thousands of miles
away, you can't feel thatenergy as much, but because it's
closer to home and we'reexpanding, you know, maybe out
to the other side of our countrysince you and I live on the on
the east coast it's not going tobe as easy to expand your
energy all the way out into, youknow, further, further away

(09:21):
countries and things like that,but there, that's why we can
easily get sucked in as empathsand feel like this is happening
directly to us and in a sense,it is because we're under the
same system, structure and, yes,we are in the world, but it's a
little bit different because weare living in, you know, a
different country than othercountries that are going through

(09:43):
very similar systematicbreakdowns and war and things
like that, and we haven't beenin this energy since the
Revolutionary War for us, so itfeels very much like the war on
us and we've just had severalterrorist attacks, which I'm

(10:03):
sure is not going to be the lastof them.
There's a lot of things going on, but the most important thing
energetically right now is togoing to be to draw your energy
close.
If you do expand it out, thenbring it back in.
If you're going to meditate andyou're going to want to be, you
know, visioning with yourhigher self, like putting out

(10:25):
these fires and helping thesepeople and dreaming of this like
beautiful new world, like bringyour energy back close to you,
draw that expanded vision fromoutside of you back in and hold
it close, because that's whatpeople are expanding and not
like contracting and so theirenergy is getting lost and what

(10:46):
feels like the ethers and it's afull moon.
It's really fucking hard to getgrounded today, especially and
yes, we were just saying that.
We were like, okay, get readyfor an unhinged podcast exactly
because I'm like I don't knowwhere my brain is but like my,
my mind is just so open that I'mlike I am also struggling to

(11:06):
get into the body and to containmy own energy.
It's a constant like.
It's a constant practice.
It's almost like you, let's say, you have like a bunch of
marbles in your pockets and someof them keep falling out, like
you need to keep containing themback into your pockets, like
keep making sure that one fellout, like let me bring it back

(11:27):
in.
So there's a lot to it.
It's very complex.
There's even, you know, theenergies that are beyond my
expansion right now, that arecoming in and they just haven't
been able to be fully understoodyet because we are going
through an awakening period.

Speaker 1 (11:44):
Yes, and sometimes it's okay and I've said this
before as well Like it's okay tosit in that discomfort of the
expansion and contraction ofenergy, like it's okay to kind
of be in these limbo states.
And you know, especially thosein in the healing world and the
spiritual world, like we toofall for that, like wanting that

(12:05):
instant gratification of likeoh, I'm not feeling my best or
I'm feeling like these emotionalshifts, like let me sit and
meditate, it's not going tonecessarily like flip the switch
, like sometimes it's okay tosit in that discomfort and right
now, like, yeah, we're sittingin this space of collective
grief for California, for thecountry I mean, some parts of

(12:30):
the country still haven't healedfrom the last things that have
happened, and whether or not youbelieve that they were natural
disasters or something morenefarious, like it doesn't
really matter at this point.
It's, it's the coming together.
And you know, like when the veilstarts to lift and you start to

(12:55):
come into these awakened energy, it's like there's no going
back, so you can't put the veilback on, like you have to kind
of lean in and go with it andand feel the full spectrum of
human emotions, like it's okaynot to be okay right now, it's
okay to feel like all of thecollective energy, but it's also

(13:17):
important to, like you said, tocontain it back and to bring it
back and know that it's not allyours.
Sometimes we're taking on otherpeople's energies or emotions,
um, and allowing yourself torealize that and and these are
muscles that you need to flexit's, it becomes, um a practice

(13:38):
and a balance and a dance tolearn how to work with these
energies and it's not alwayseasy but it's always worth it.
And backing up a little bit lastweek's episode, I talk a little
bit about some personal thingsthat I am going through, some
growth and expansion that I'mexperiencing For the first time

(14:02):
in a long time, had somebody wholike doesn't like my classes,
and they brought some I'm usingthis word loosely, but they
brought some feedback um to anadministration and it got back
to me and I'm trying to findthat dance of like using it to

(14:22):
propel me forward, using it formy highest good, not taking it
personally, which is very hard,because it did feel very
personal, trying not to let myego get involved and to like
stick my nose up and just belike well, Well, and here's the
thing I've been saying this tofor the past couple of weeks is

(14:42):
the energy is very much rightnow been saying this too for the
past couple weeks is the energyis very much right now.

Speaker 2 (14:48):
Like you know, you can't go back.
You don't even want to go back,but we don't know the way
forward and it almost createsthis feeling of feeling stuck.
So now all these things likeyour personal experience with
someone making a complaint orthe authority or whatever it's
like I have been dealing withvery similar things where I'm
having to learn discernment andI'm looking at ethics in the
industry and these are all veryimportant things to me and I've

(15:12):
had to look at myself and saylike, why am I so triggered by
this?
If I am triggered and then useit to propel me forward?
Because I mean, just the otherday I had a friend storm into my
office, who's in the sameoffice building as me, and she
was like we got, I need yourhelp with this, I need to get it
done.
And we've been saying for thepast couple months that there

(15:33):
was a few things that we bothwanted to be doing and the
universe was like bitch rightnow because you keep sitting on
it and now is the time.
So it's like we need to use itto propel.
It's like enough is enough.
You need to use these, thesehardships and challenges, to
propel you to move forward, andwhether it's like a tiny inch of

(15:55):
a step that you're going, orit's like, okay, finally, I'm
just going to, like startcreating the thing that I said
that I was going to for so long,right and and this is the
challenge trusting that, likethings are shifting and even
when it is like it's winter,like this is a time of challenge
.
This is a time of challengingour belief and our trust in

(16:17):
ourself and the universe, and ifyou're still struggling with
that, then it's a time to lookinward.
Still, it's like we can't havethe things that we want yet
because we still have that inour energy field and it is very
complex.
Like, obviously, there's a lotof factors coming into place,
there are a lot of conspiracies.

(16:39):
It's really hard not to getsucked into that toxic and
parasitic energy really hard notto get sucked into that toxic
and parasitic energy.

Speaker 1 (16:49):
Yes, yes, oh my gosh.
And like going back to theconversation of parasites and
parasitic infection.
It's like that's not justenergetic, it's also physical as
well, from environment thatwe're dealing with.
And going back to the full moonthese symptoms are heightened
under the full moon.

Speaker 2 (17:05):
Very heightened and I can speak to that personally
because I've had them before.

Speaker 1 (17:14):
I've detoxed them very recently actually, and
that's why everyone is gettingsick right now, like it's.
It's because, first of all,like over the holidays,
everyone's sugar intake was likeway more than it usually is.
We're not eating.
We're like eating like crap,we're eating like lots of heavy,
rich foods and, like I'msomeone who believes more in
terrain theory than germ theory,and I think that over the

(17:37):
holidays we kind of create thisperfect storm.
There's like a lot of brushingaround, there's a lot of
obligations that people feel ina time when, yeah, we should
kind of be like oh, yeah, andlike all the holiday parties,

(18:05):
you have to spend all the timewith your family and friends.
Like all of these obligations,it's like creating the perfect
environment for illness.
And now we have the full moon,which which highlights it's when
the parasites come out to play.
And now we're wondering whyeveryone is sick right now, like
everyone I know has some sortof cold or flu, and it's like

(18:28):
it's not just because it'sabsolutely flu season, it's not
just because it's the winter,it's so much deeper than that.

Speaker 2 (18:34):
Well, and here's the thing too, with the going back
to the physical and the densityof it, it's like we are
processing, like people aregetting coughs out of nowhere.
A lot of respiratory right Likeand look, here we are.
Respiratory system is all aboutgrief.
Yes, grief and the lungs andwe've just gone through a very

(18:55):
similar process of being like,okay, these things do not work.
So now we are grieving this oldworld and the world that we
thought we were living in,because now it's a, it's a big
reality that this has all beenhere.
This is all stuff we turned ablind eye to or we were just
like unaware of, and now thatwe're awakening, it can be a
very isolating and lonelyprocess, even though we're

(19:17):
collectively all going throughit and we can feel sick, you
know.
Going back to parasites, youknow, I know a lot of people are
having diarrhea right now.
Diarrhea is all about wantingto rid things from your body,
like we want to rid this societyof this disgustingness.
We want to rid ourselves ofthis just unease, dis-ease, all

(19:38):
of it, and it's not easy.
There's other ailments a lot ofmucus.
People are dealing with a lotof mucus.
Now mucus comes when we, when atoxin or a foreign substance
goes into your body and yourbody starts saying like danger,
danger, let me overproduce mucusto try and flush this out.

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And what's happening is peopleare getting inundated with the
mucus.
And I know because I've beendealing with it for years and
I've been sick for, probably forthe past two years a full year
like six months out of the yearand I've really I've had to go
through this and learn it andreally uncover.
And you know, that's just partof who I am as a person is like.

(20:19):
I need to know things and Ineed to understand them fully.
I need to be an expert onwhat's happening to me and why.
And that's just because Ibelieve in grounding into
something that's important andfully understanding and
grounding the spiritual into thephysical, just because we can.
Yes, and it's very difficult,but it's part of my personal

(20:40):
process and this is just whatI've observed through other
people personal process and thisis just what I've observed
through other people.
And then we we come up withsome other ailment that is kind
of I call it like an?
Um, a parasitic decoy or or um,a pathogen decoy, right it

(21:01):
could.
We come up with other emotionsor we come up with some other
ailment and really these arejust layers from what we're
trying to clear from from ourenergy field.
So it's coming up in theseailments.
So it's like most or Ishouldn't say most I believe
that physical ailments areconnected directly to emotions
and in your life and things thatare coming up with that.
So when when they start comingup one after the other, it's

(21:24):
easy to get scared because we'retrying to diagnose each symptom
Right.
But if we can pause and look atit like, oh, I have a layer
coming out right now and damn, Imust have like parasites in
this layer, I must have like abig fear around feeling
unprotected, unsupported.
If you're having back pain,things like that, and I'm seeing

(21:47):
a lot of people with joint andbone pain right now, and this is
just where all things weregetting trapped and it's
uncomfortable for a period, butit's like maybe you need that
time to shake it out.

Speaker 1 (22:00):
Yes, and if we didn't have the symptom, then we
wouldn't be aware that somethingis happening.
So, like all of these symptoms,whether it's emotional,
energetic or physical, like usethat as like a little bit of
inspiration, like it's coming,it's being brought to your
attention for a reason.
So, like one of the things thatI think is really important in
this time is, like I don'tbelieve this is time to like set

(22:24):
goals and like hit the groundrunning, like I do not believe
that.
I believe that this time istime to nourish yourself.
It's time to eat the healingfoods, it's time to rest, it's
time to reflect, and I thinkthis full moon is really that's
like kind of a culmination,right, because we um, we haven't

(22:46):
quite hit the lunar new yearyet, so we're still like in this
2024 energy, and what I thinkthis is is it's a great time to
reflect on the last year.
What's coming up currently, whatsensations or like things are
happening in your body, in yourenergy fields, and just notice.

(23:08):
It's a time to notice andnourish, and once you have that
foundation, then all of theother things kind of fall into
place, kind of naturally, likeonce you let go of those
energies that you're letting goof.
Once you nourish and kind oflike replenish your energy
stores, then you can really takea hard look at, okay, like yeah

(23:29):
, what are the goals, what'scoming up for the next year for
me, and you can kind of liketake action steps and move
through there.
But, like you can't, you need asolid foundation to start, and
I think that solid foundation isnourishing yourself and I think
that, collectively andindividually, this is a time,

(23:51):
like can you reach out and offerany support whether it's
monetary or clothing or whateverto whatever is happening in
your world that you feel likeneeds a little extra support,
whether it's what happened inAsheville, what happened in
Hawaii, what is happening inGaza, what is happening in

(24:15):
California.
Like, allow yourself to help,allow yourself to be the helper
to create those new systems thatwe want to see, and allow this
also as a time to restore yourenergy reserves, to focus on
yourself, to support your lungs.
This time of year, if you're inthe Northeast, it's so cold and

(24:38):
dry right now and we haven'tseen the sun.
It's been behind a thick layerof clouds.
Like really nourish yourself.
Like take the time to rest,drink warm fluids, like herbal
teas, like herbs are going tohelp support you during this
time.
Drink, eat nourishing foods,like lots of stews and soups and

(25:03):
things that are high innutritional value.
And take the time to to to workon yourself, whether you go to
the gym, go to a yoga class.
Like allowing yourself to sweatnot only helps you move things
out physically, but it's also ahuge energetic release.
Like way beyond the fitness.
Like movement practice has beenreally important for me, like

(25:27):
especially, like I've been verycandid, like the last week very
difficult, and like I don't wantto move.
I just want to get in my bedand kind of like not leave the
spiritual cave.

Speaker 2 (25:38):
But I can totally relate to that.
I feel like I haven't workedout in forever and I don't know
about you, but I've had like thefood ache, like not a big
appetite.
You're the second person to saythat to me, just like my whole
family is going through it andlike, yeah, the stomach bug has
run through the house and butthe thing is like nothing is
feeling nourishing.
I went through a period where,like water tasted disgusting, I

(26:00):
had to start putting I actuallystarted putting rosemary and
slices of orange in my waterbecause those things are in
season.
Yeah, and it made me feel betterthan like putting lemon in my
water or like I don't know justanything, and nothing was
resonating.
And still, even to this day,I'm just kind of like I look at
food and I'm like I know I needto eat, but like, and I just
kind of grab whatever becauseit's easy.

Speaker 1 (26:25):
That's also normal this time of year, like our
digestive fires aren't as strongas they are um, and if you look
at it back ancestrally, it'sbecause food was scarce in the
winter time so like if this isthe time to fast, like fasting
is so fasting and prayer is soimportant.
I actually have a friend who isdoing a 40 day juice cleanse

(26:45):
right now and pairing it likespiritually, so there's also
like a biblical componentbecause of the 40 days.
So very cool.
Yeah, I know I should reach outto her and maybe see if she
wants to come on.
I was gonna say, but you're moreabout, you know, and personally
, like I don't think juicecleanses are the way to go this
time of year just because it'scold.

(27:06):
And like I said, our digestionis like, not as like we need
warm right now.
So I think more of like akitchery cleanse, like Ayurvedic
kitchery cleanse, would be moreappropriate for this time of
year.
Or just doing like a water fastand just doing like warm water
and lemon and not telling peopleto not eat for long periods of

(27:28):
time, like no, yeah, just sayingit's normal.
It's normal six to 24 hoursright and um, like a huge part
of parasite cleansing is likestarving off the parasites and
like heavy metals feeds them,sugar feeds them.

Speaker 2 (27:46):
So, like I said, everything throughout the
holidays was just like kind ofwell, the hard part is, too, is
a lot of people and this is justfrom like, my experience as an
energy practitioner and personalexperience is that you know,
sometimes we think like, oh, weneed supplements and things like

(28:07):
that to kill off parasites andsometimes that triggers other
pathogens because theseparasites do not want to leave
the body.
And then people do a cleanseand they detox and then they
give up and they haven't gottenthrough the full detox cycle and
things start to embed deeper inthe body and it just becomes a

(28:27):
harder process so what?
I like to say as an energeticpractitioner is that you know,
this is like a famous quote, islike where intention goes.
Energy flows like isolate inyour mind's eye these parasites
or this energy that you'reworking on.
Isolate it so that other thingsaren't triggered as badly,

(28:49):
because if we're just going togo in and do a parasite cleanse,
then it's like a free for allfor all the shit and the bugs
inside your body.
And then people give up becausethey're like oh no, this is
like terrible.
I feel disgusting.
The heavy metals start comingout.
Can't even tell you how manypeople lately have been like
everything tastes bad.
It tastes like metal.
Yeah, because we're detoxingour water systems, we're

(29:10):
detoxing all this stuff in theair, we're detoxing all that
crap that we're having in ourbody.
It's totally normal.
But I know just as much aseveryone else that it is
extremely frustrating becausethis is so much at once that we
are realizing it has beeninfiltrating us, and also
because our boundaries have notbeen strong enough with it and

(29:31):
it's really a slap in the face.

Speaker 1 (29:35):
I think we're all getting that like collective
wake-up call and like this isn't, it's not to scare, and I know
the parasite talk like really isvery triggering for a lot of
people.
But like we, you know, I startedparasite cleansing, um, like
four years ago, now, three, fouryears ago.

(29:56):
Now March will be like, yeah,three or four years ago, now
three, four years ago.
Now March will be like, yeah,three or four years.
And we're mammals, like it's acompletely normal part of being
a mammal.
Like you know, if you, if you,I mean horses, even dogs, cats
that live with you, chances areyou parasite cleanse them at

(30:19):
least once a year.
So like, why aren't we doing itfor ourselves?
We are like the only developedcountry in the world that
doesn't talk about thisregularly, and it's as simple as
taking some herbs three or fourtimes a year three or four

(30:41):
times a year.

Speaker 2 (30:41):
Um, I had some acupuncturist even said that
when I was processing andpurging parasites.
Pretty recently it it likeprompted her to do a little bit
more research or maybe like heralgorithm started coming up
because you know we'd beentalking about it and she was
reading she's like it says thesearticles with acupuncturists
say like if you have a pet thatyou should be doing even more
parasite cleansing because theybring them in.

(31:03):
It's just the nature of itTicks, all that Most of us have
tick-borne illness or bug youknow.

Speaker 1 (31:08):
Mosquitoes.

Speaker 2 (31:10):
This is what all these like chronic symptoms come
down to come down to, and it'slike we just have to purge it
from the body and people don'tallow themselves to get to the
root cause because they'rediagnosing every little symptom
and I know, because I do it toowe get trapped in fear, we feel
like shit.
It's really hard to get out ofyour you know, negative victim

(31:34):
hood when you don't feel good oryou're in pain.
And that was the other thing Iwanted to bring up was with this
full moon.
I was just reading I followElizabeth Peru and I'm a member
of her like energy, daily energyupdates, and she posted today
about the full moon and howwe're still transmuting pain

(31:55):
from 2024.
Yes, I saw that this moon.
So it.
I mean talking about physicalpain, talking about emotional
pain.
We're talking about just likebirthing pain like we're.
We're like simultaneously dyingin birthing At the same time.
It can be extremely confusing.
Half of us are probablytransmuting the death process.

(32:20):
The other half is probablybirthing the new earth.
There's a lot going on.
People are going to naturallyfeel crazy because we have a
human brain, we have ego, wehave a physical body that all
this information has to processthrough and if you're not
continuously flushing it in thespiritual, the energetic, the

(32:45):
mental and the physical, it'sgoing to become more clogged yes
, and I think the more that wetap into these energies too, the
more that we like need thesetools, like I think we're all
collectively up leveling.

Speaker 1 (33:00):
I think since 2020, I've said this since 2020 that I
thought 2020 opened up a portalfor like it was like a
spiritual war and you neededthere were two things that you
needed to do get right withyourself and get right with God.
And like I am seeing that playout more and more every day and
like I think about those wordsthat I said in March of 2020 and

(33:25):
they're still so pertinent nowand I I think that's the way
through this.
it's really to sit with yourselfto be the observer, and it's
it's time for not onlynourishing self-care, but also
reaching out and like being incommunity, like this is the way
forward and this is how we startto create those systems that

(33:49):
actually work.
So, like you know, in the lastseason or whatever, even this
episode, we've talked a lotabout like the collective
problems and energies that we'removing through, and I think
it's important to start talkingabout, okay, how do we not sit
in this?
How do we move through thisshadow work and make it be
productive for, uh, thecollective?

(34:12):
And I think you know we're allgoing through that.
On a personal level as well,it's like what I was talking
about last week is like I couldhave continued to sit in this
like sour, salty place, but Iknow that, even though it was
like an annoying thing to dealwith, even though it kind of
didn't really have merit orwhatever, that this, too, is for

(34:36):
my higher good or whatever,that this, too, is for my higher
good, and it's all happening tocontinue to propel me forward,
to make me the best teacher thatI possibly can be in this space
.

Speaker 2 (34:47):
And I think people forget like it's about you
before it's about anyone else.
It's about you before it'sabout anyone else.
Like if you're being triggeredby certain things, like it's
about you, it's about you, notthe other, not the other person.
Yet until you've gone throughthe emotions or the triggers, if
it doesn't affect you at all,it's about them.
But if you're feeling some typeof way about what's going on

(35:11):
around you, it's also about you.
Like I had to look.
What a reality.
I mean.
I don't know if I've gone intodepth on this on the podcast,
but I left a 15 year career.
I was making like great money,I had my own apartment.
I picked up my life and movedinto my sister's house.

(35:31):
I have like barely anypossessions.
And I look at the fireshappening and I'm like how dare
I even think that possessionswere what this is all about?
Like I'm safe, I'm fine.
Your home is about your comfortwith yourself.
Okay, like a home can bring youcomfort.

(35:53):
Of course money can bring youcomfort.
It's not going to bring youhappiness.
It's not going to bring you um,that, that real true sense of
belonging, yeah, yeah.
So it's just interesting to see, like how we're also like
looking at hey, what would?
I don't know about you, butlike all over social media, I've

(36:13):
seen people doing their likewhat would you pack up if this
were to happen to you?
And I've seen people doingtheir like what would you pack
up if this were to happen to you?
And I've seen some veryinteresting things and
everyone's going to be different, like I don't know.
I was like my passport for one,like I don't know why that was
my first item, but, like this isjust things like we're getting
the gears moving and likeshifting our focus to what's

(36:35):
truly important and that is likesupporting ourselves,
supporting our community, andreally flushing out the things
that like the people who havebeen taking advantage of us, the
systems that's been takingadvantage of us, and now we see
and it's our collective power tobe like this shit doesn't
matter, you can't fool us.

(36:55):
That's part of taking the powerback.
It's like hey, listen, I don'teven need all this stuff.
So if the world was going tocome crumbling down, I'm still
here, and sure Are people goingto, are people going to leave
the earth, and you know it'sgoing to be their time, but
that's like their sole contract.
And when I tap into energy andstuff and like especially I know

(37:18):
you and I have talked aboutlike aliens and whatever it's
like when I tap into it, it'slike we're all just souls, we're
different species and that'swhy we feel so much compassion
towards animals, we feelcompassion towards the land, we
feel compassion towards eachother and we are unfortunately
like pitted against each other.
But I think the realities ofthat are coming to fruition

(37:40):
right now, where it's likehere's all the fear you had and
it was bullshit and you're stillokay and we go through this
personally too.
This is definitely part of, likethat transformative period and
just to touch on, you know justthat different elements like
fire transmutes energy.
It burns up what no longerworks.
You, this is what like,traditionally like if you were

(38:04):
going to do like a shamanicritual, then you would put like
your hopes and dreams, thethings that you want to release
out from your body, from fromyour world.
You would put it into a fireand then you turn your back on
that fire as a symbol, just likehorse trainers, they turn their
back on the horse as a symbolof trust.
You come to me, you come to me.

(38:27):
So this is like I'm not sayingturn your back on what's
happening.
We're not going to turn a blindeye, but trusting, like okay.
That even this is for the highergood trusting, like, okay, that
even this is for the highergood, throw throw that stuff
that you, this, these systemsthat aren't working, throw this
anger into that like release it,like utilize kind of what we're
seeing like, and then to touchon like ashville, like water.

(38:49):
The water element is all aboutyour emotions and these huge
emotional upheavals and things,just you know, coming up.
And how do we let our emotionslike destroy us in some ways?
Right, because we're too afraidto deal with them.
We stuff them down.
We stuff them down and thenwe're seeing it on the rise
outside of us and nature is likeokay, everyone's been

(39:10):
suppressing, so here it is.
You finally have to look at it.
It's like a pressure cooker themore we suppress things, the
more that things build up.

Speaker 1 (39:22):
Yes, and like it's funny talking about those two
energies, water and fire.
It's also I've talked aboutthis a lot too having a
Christian background and goingto Catholic school.
Like pretty much my whole lifeI've studied the Bible back to
front and like the water andfire energies in the Bible are
also very um present there.

(39:44):
There are symbols that God usesand there are ways that God has
used to cleanse the earthbefore.
And we're looking, you know, ifyou really zoom out and look at
it with the observer's eye,without any veil or any
undertones from the mainstreammedia, you look at Asheville

(40:06):
like that's where they're miningfor different elements to
create microchips for phones andcomputers and all of that stuff
.
So you like, look at that, okay, put that aside.
God floods that land, or maybeit was the government who really
knows, but it's like acompletely washing away, a

(40:26):
cleansing.
And then you look at what'shappening in California right
now and if you really zoom out,you look at all of the stuff
happening with Diddy and I'msure many others, like we
watched all the stuff unfoldwith Jeffrey Epstein and like
elite and a lot of their homeswere burned and it's like, okay,

(41:05):
was, was this plan?
Was this God cleansing Like?
Is it a little bit it's hard.

Speaker 2 (41:13):
I mean I said to someone yesterday because she
was like well, all these richpeople can rebuild their homes
and stuff like that, and I waslike but there are elderly
people who live there, there'stons of regular ass people that
live there, yeah, and we'reforgetting about the other

(41:34):
little things that make it up.
So this is really eye openingfor people to see, like how
truly like impactful this is onso many things beyond just
people.
I mean, okay, like that, theland, like think of all that
vegetation is gone.
Well, if it rains, there'sgonna be landslides, mudslides,

(41:54):
like that's even worse.

Speaker 1 (41:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (41:57):
That's even worse.

Speaker 1 (41:59):
You know something I've been thinking about a lot
there's a high concentration offarmland there.
You know, living in theNortheast, a lot of our produce
from the in the wintertime comesfrom California and Mexico and
I think we're going to see hugerepercussions here and going
going back to people.
Like you know, California isalso a place where we see both

(42:23):
ends of the spectrum.
We see the poorest of the poorand the richest of the rich, and
they all live in the samelittle area.
So it's like not just mansionswere lost, but like a population
of people that we forget isalso being hugely affected here.

(42:45):
So it is so nuanced, so layered.
There are a lot of emotionsthat come with it.
There is a lot to unpackbecause there are a lot of
psyops and red flags andpropaganda.
So, really, weeding through allof that, I think it comes back
down to like, like what I keepsaying is being the observer,

(43:07):
Like I think that there is hugevalue in meditation and it's not
a detachment from reality, butit's allowing yourself to deal
with the chaos around withoutassigning attachment or emotion
or meaning to it, and justallowing yourself to sit with
whatever human emotions come up,because we are meant to feel
the full spectrum of it, withoutbeing like pulled down into the

(43:32):
waters, into this drowningenergy into the waters, into
this drowning energy.

Speaker 2 (43:40):
Well, it's so important to activate that
parasympathetic nervous systemso that, like you, can get to
that point of your body canrelease what it needs to your
mind.
Can, you know, relax if you?
You know some.
There's different modalities todo this, but, like, through
meditation, and you know, I callit journeying, which they're?
They're pretty, you know muchone in the sameying.
Which they're?
They're pretty much one in thesame.
It just depends on who'sleading it.
And as you go on these journeys,whether, like, you are

(44:04):
visualizing something or you'renot, it's not about turning your
mind off, it's about givingyourself the space to explore.
And I think people get confusedby that.
And they're, you know,especially when I talk to people
about, you know, being anempath or like having psychic
abilities, they automaticallythink that, like, when you're,

(44:26):
like when you're supposed tohear from your spirit guides or
you're going to hear from, youknow, the divine that, like
you're going to hear it, likeyou and I are going to hear
through our speakers, and it'snot often like that.
Sometimes it can be a thought,sometimes it can be, you know,
like a far away voice or justlike a memory from a movie that

(44:47):
you've seen, like a dialogue,like I think people are not
giving themselves theopportunity to explore because
they're afraid that they'redoing it wrong or that they just
don't know what they're doing.

Speaker 1 (44:59):
Yeah, and that's kind of where this was born of.
It's like it's just finding thetools that work for you and
acquiring those tools andutilizing them to your benefit.
And for me that's been yoga,that's been meditation, that's
been acupuncture, that's beenmeditation, that's been
acupuncture, that's been massage, that's been energy work, um,

(45:22):
but it's different for everyperson and you just have to be
willing to try, be willing toput yourself out there and and
to find those tools that workfor you, because you're gonna,
you're gonna know pretty muchright away absolutely you're
gonna know, like the first time.
I was so resistant to yoga forso long and I thought that

(45:44):
anyone who did it was just likecrunchy and crazy and like I was
like just not for me.
But then that I finally allowedmyself to have an open mind and
to be a beginner and I went tomy first yoga class and I was
hooked right away.
I was like that kicked my assand that was challenging and
that was hard as fuck and Ididn't know what I was doing,

(46:07):
but like wow, like you could,like I could just feel, I felt
like every cell in my body wasturned on.
I felt so alive and so, likeyou just know, when it it works,
it just it just works.
And like something that's comethrough.
The feedback that I receivedlast week is like not every

(46:31):
student is gonna get along.
Like want to work with everyteacher and not every teacher is
for every student, and that'sokay.

Speaker 2 (46:41):
like allow yourself to explore, allow yourself to be
wrong, allow yourself to justtry these things out without um
kind of like the mentalgymnastics that comes along with
it like oh absolutely, and Ithink we could go on a whole new
episode like talking about likeepigenetics and criticism and

(47:05):
becoming defensive and there'sjust so much that we could lean
into on that and it's just likeagain it goes back to looking
within it's about you beforeit's about someone else and
that's okay and going throughthose emotions and like seeing
where you actually land andgiving yourself the time to

(47:28):
process how it made you feel,what it made you think all those
things, how it triggered you,if at all, and then you get to
choose to respond or act in adifferent manner.

Speaker 1 (47:44):
Yes, yeah, this is exactly what I went through last
week.
Like I had to sit with the upsand downs and like the looking
within, like why is thistriggering me?
What wound is this poking atthat it's becoming so personal,
I'm so attached to it and likewhere is this an opportunity for
not just me but for everyoneinvolved?

(48:06):
And I really do feel like I gotto that place.
You know, I had um a meetingwith my manager and I was very
candid about how I felt.
I was very candid about what Ineeded to move forward and I was
um very open and offering a fewdifferent solutions to, to to

(48:32):
the um the experience at hand,and I really do think everything
happens for a reason.
So I, you know, I spoke verycandidly about it last week, so
I'll just share a little bitabout you know, what came to be.
So I had talked to the managerabout how I just thought it was
handled kind of poorly and itwasn't handled with yoga as a

(48:56):
whole in mind, like yoga is waymore than the physical practice
of asana and I felt like it wasan opportunity for everyone to
get a little bit curious.
You know, like the student camewith I use the word feedback
very loosely, because it wasn'treally feedback.
It was just like kind of anattack on my class about her not

(49:20):
liking to flow on her own,because I always offer a little.
I mean, you've taken my classbefore, you know.
I always offer a little portionof class where you kind of have
the ability to do the sequencethat I led you through.
Or it's a time to explore inyour body, or it's a time to be
still, and that is challengingfor students and I understand

(49:42):
that it's challenging forstudents.
It's meant to make youuncomfortable.
It's like the magic of yoga andit's why I personally practice.
It's to allow yourself to movebeyond those self-limiting
beliefs of whatever your mindthrows at you and allow yourself
to stay present with the breathand with the movement, or with
stillness, if that's what you'rechoosing.

(50:02):
So what the opportunity therewas was like I invited the
manager to speak with thatstudent and say, hey, we're not
going to tell Gianna who you are, but she would really like you
to come back to class and giveit another try.
And this is her why.
This is why she has youpractice the way that she does.
It's it's an opportunity forgrowth and expansion and um it

(50:26):
was muscle memory, things likethat I've heard you say many
times in your class thatit becomes about muscle memory
and finding that meditative flowwhere it's just you and the
movement and your breath and youcan let go of all the thoughts.
And if you can't let go of thethoughts, then amazing.
That is part of the practice isto notice what's coming up for
you and to let the practice beletting that go, without

(50:49):
assigning attachment, emotion ormeaning.
I mean people on the podcasthave probably heard me say that
thousands of times too.
On the podcast have probablyheard me say that thousands of
times too, so this is just anopportunity for me to get more
clear with my students on my whyand that was where it was
growth for me, because I'm notchanging my style of classes.
I'm I'm firm in that I'm I'mcomfortable with how I teach and

(51:11):
, of course, it's alwaysevolving and I'm always learning
and even though I'm a teacher,I'm always a student.
But I think the core of of myclass is it's solid, it's it's
there for a reason and, um, Ifully stand behind that.
So I just think it was anopportunity for growth for

(51:33):
everyone involved, and so how-?

Speaker 2 (51:36):
Oh, absolutely.
And as somebody who does notlike the free flow, because I
and just hearing you say it tooabout this other person, it's
like I'm like, yeah, Idefinitely struggle because I
feel like I need to be led,because, in a way, it's like
someone doing it for you, right?

(52:04):
So if someone's just likeyou're just kind of like I need
to be led because in a way, it'slike someone doing it for you,
right?
So someone's just like you'rejust kind of like you can be
just like mindless almost where,it's like when you're letting
go and you're like okay, nowyou're on your own, that can be
a struggle and I know it's beena struggle for me and like
trusting in myself.
So I think this ultimatelycomes down to like understanding
, like you are helping others totrust in themselves.
It's not just about like beingin this meditative state.

(52:25):
It's like I've led you to thispoint and guess what?
Like your body, your mind andyour soul know at this point,
allow it, like lean into thattrust.
And if those triggers come up,that like you're not trusting
yourself and you really do wishthat I was leading through, like
just know, I'm here to cue you,like here's where we are like
and where you're at, it's fine.

(52:46):
People really latch on to that,like we become reliant.

Speaker 1 (52:51):
The handholds, yes, and I see it even with energy
work.
You know, I see it when I firststarted my spiritual journey
and I was going to Reiki likeevery single week and if I
didn't go to Reiki, like I feltlike I was like an incomplete
human.
It's like no, and I didn't.
Yes, those are great tools toutilize when you need them, but,

(53:11):
like when you become reliant onit, it becomes more of a
detriment than it is for healing, and it's what I go back to.
Like I think the age of theguru is dead.
It's why nearly enlightened wasborn.
Because I want to empowerpeople to find the tools that
work for them.
I don't want them to feel likethey need their handheld by a

(53:32):
teacher or a guru or a coach orlike whatever authority figure
you want to place there.
Like I want people to find itwithin themselves, because you
touched on it a little bit inthis episode.
But everyone has clearabilities, everyone has psychic
abilities, everyone has othersenses.

(53:53):
You just have to figure out thetools that work for you and
start to tap into those gifts.
Like any spiritual leader, anyspiritual teacher, they're not
special, they just they leanedinto the work that gives you the
gifts, that gives you the toolsto like, make this easier.
But you know.

Speaker 2 (54:12):
I always say it's everybody has the ability.
It's your personal lifeexperience that makes it your
medicine.
Your experience, that is that'swhat makes it your medicine, so
you can tap in.
All these things Doesn't meanyou need to become an energy
worker.
If you do, great.

(54:33):
Your part of your medicine isthat you probably at one point
didn't trust yourself and didn'tfree flow and have that
pre-fall into being like shit.
Now I'm on my own and now it'slike that's part of your
medicine is you're teachingpeople like hey, through my yoga
class, like you're, you'regoing to be free and on your own

(54:55):
and it might be uncomfortableat first because here's what
we're doing.
And if you have this lack oftrust in yourself and you really
want that like handholding andit's a little bit codependency,
if you're asking me, yeah, andit's like great and of course
some people do go to yoga forthat like me, I'm like great, I
want to like, yeah, I want tohave like a 20 minute shavasana
and like sit on my ass and laydown and have my meditation.

(55:18):
Some other people might want afull 60 minutes of just moving.

Speaker 1 (55:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (55:22):
They don't want that.

Speaker 1 (55:24):
Yeah, and.

Speaker 2 (55:24):
I personally I don't like 10 minutes of pigeon.
It's on my jam because I'muncomfortable.

Speaker 1 (55:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (55:31):
And that's okay.
That's my own shit.
Yeah, it's also like it's it'sabout me before it's about
anyone else.

Speaker 1 (55:45):
It's about me before, it's about the instructor.
Right, yeah, yeah, and that wasone of the things that I
brought up.
I was like you know, where isthe?
You know this isn't and I saythis in my classes a lot when
we're flowing on our own and Isay, I know this is
uncomfortable and I know likeyou could be throwing all kinds
of insults at me in your headlike hate to break it to you.
It ain't about me, it's aboutyou.
So like, yeah, why are you sotriggered?
Why are you so resistant tothis?

(56:06):
I mean, like you said, yeah, Iwas resistant to that too
because, yeah, you want to justgo and be led and be taught and
whatever, and but you in myclasses, like you, are going to
learn more than the asana.
I'm, I'm going to make you gobeyond, even if it's a power
yoga class where, even if you'reshowing up just for fitness,
like, sorry, this is more thanjust fitness.

(56:27):
For me, this is it really is Um, and the fitness part of it is
great, but it's the other seedsthat get planted.
It's the workout of the mindthat becomes the most important
work, and I got into yogabecause of the physical, but

(56:48):
when I noticed all of thebenefits of the mind.
I'm an overthinker, I'm aGemini air air sign always up in
my head.
So when I learned these tools tokind of ground and to get out
of my head and to realize thatnot every thought needs
validation like that was hugelyempowering for me.
And, yes, that's what I want tobring to my students.

(57:08):
And part of that beinguncomfortable, whether it's in
pigeon or whether it's inmovement or whether it's in
stillness because I have a lotof students who, yeah, they come
for the physical practice, sothey're really adverse to the
stillness.
And I truly believe and notthat I truly believe like it is
fact that the most advancedpractice is in the stillness.

(57:29):
It's getting comfortable, beinguncomfortable and getting
outside of your comfort zone.
It's letting go of the thingsthat come up in your mind,
whatever the mind throws at you,as an opportunity to practice,
being in center.
And I think that even when wezoom out and we're looking at
this collectively, all the stuffhappening in California and
Gaza and Hawaii and, um,literally something everywhere,

(57:55):
exactly All of those thingsthat's being brought to our
attention, it's not to ignore,it's to witness and to notice
and to sit with theuncomfortable of like, okay, we
were doing it this way for solong, these are the results.
It's not working.

Speaker 2 (58:11):
How can we sit with us to move forward, to create
something new, like you, know, Ithink so many people look for a
solution outside of themselvesand it's like, like I said
earlier, like no one has truepower over you, and it's a
matter of bringing that powerback and like, looking at

(58:32):
yourself, where am I bringing inthis injustice?
Like, where am I feeling unjustin my, in my life?
Where are, where am I feelinglike, wow, this could, like this
is a war on me specifically,right, because we're seeing a
lot of war right now, especiallylike the spiritual war that's
happening.
Yeah, I mean, the light'salready won, but the density of

(58:55):
the reality has got to go.

Speaker 1 (58:58):
Yes, and it's that.
It's that like, pull backbefore we propel forward.
Like Jamie talks about this alot in her work she's been on
the podcast twice before and,like pretty much a lot of the
guests on this podcast, I knowbecause of her but she talks a
lot about expansion and in theexpansion before we can expand,

(59:18):
there's contraction and even ifyou're talking about it in the
birth space, you got to gothrough those contractions to
bring the baby into the worldand we're seeing that same thing
play out collectively.
And I think that this is justpart of our contraction before
we expand.
And I did say in my prophecy in2020, like I think this whole

(59:43):
decade is going to be about that.
It's going to be about findingthat contraction and letting
that propel us forward.
And right now we're in themiddle of this decade and I
think we're going to see, likethe most movement that we're
going to see in this decade.
And not to scare, not to bringup fear, but I think that before

(01:00:03):
Trump takes presidency, we'regoing to see a lot more.
I mean, absolutely We'vealready started to see it and
and to see what's playing out inCalifornia, like I just saw
this morning that they're.
They just evacuated.
I think it was San FerdinandoValley, um so, like another part
of California and like, allowyourself to hold space for the

(01:00:29):
grief for that.

Speaker 2 (01:00:32):
Transmute that energy by taking care of yourself, by
like, if you need to sleepbecause you're feeling some type
of way or you're not feelingwell, transmute that energy by
taking care of you.
That's the best that you can do, honestly you.

Speaker 1 (01:00:50):
That's the best that you can do, honestly and
reaching out, like I feel like alot of people have more, I
think more um trouble takingcare of themselves.
Then I think it's easier tokind of do something nice for
someone else than to dosomething for ourselves, because
sometimes there's like all thisguilt that comes comes with it.
So if, well, there's so muchjudgment, what are you doing for
?

Speaker 2 (01:01:10):
that, yeah, cause, and it's like there's multiple
ways that you can support.

Speaker 1 (01:01:16):
Yeah, I mean like light a candle and say a prayer
that takes, that takes nothing,that takes no effort, no energy
at all.
Light, a, a prayer or like, ifyou're not, into that, like you
know, whatever, just send like,like, if you have a platform.

Speaker 2 (01:01:32):
Great, make sure you're reaching as many people
and like letting them know howthey can help.
But, like, for the people whofeel like very small in this,
that's like you can hold thespace.
You don't have to be like, well, I don't have the money to
donate, I don't have the moneyto like, how do I get clothes to
this place?
How do I get supplies here?

(01:01:53):
Don't worry about it.
Like, hold the space.
Transmute that energy.
Let your body go through whatit's going through.
Like, let yourself pause.
And that's like we're not goingto like fighting it in.
Like just making yourself worseand worse is not helpful in
this.

Speaker 1 (01:02:11):
Yes, and I think the fighting it, you know, even
talking about early in the yearand setting goals and and
letting that propel you forward.
Allow yourself to even sit inthis space Now, like you don't
have to have goals yet, youdon't.
It can just be about findingthat nourishing space for you

(01:02:32):
and for those around you.
Yeah, let that guide youforward, like you don't have to
go to that yoga class or sign upfor that gym membership or like
sign up for that fancy program.
Yeah, just allow yourself tofind the stillness.
Like I've said it before, thewinter is about finding the

(01:02:53):
pause.

Speaker 2 (01:02:54):
It's it's uncomfortable.
We're used to chaos and it'slike it's supposed to be a time
of stillness.
And now we're in this chaos andwe're like what the fuck?
It's a lot, it's a lot, andit's like did we energetically
create chaos?
Because we're all addicted toit, because we live in a world
that's like hustle, hustle,hustle.
This is also something to lookat.

(01:03:16):
Yeah, can this be thedetanglement, can this be the
the detangling of the chaos thatwe've been wrapped up in?
Yeah, can we go in reverseinstead of running into chaos?
Can we allow this chaos to bethe propeller to unwind from it?

Speaker 1 (01:03:37):
Yeah, so I talked about this with break method a
little bit, because break methodhelps us identify those brain
patterns that keep us stuck.
And, like you're saying aboutlike being addicted to chaos,
like our brain doesn't, ifthat's what our brain defines as
safety, even though it's nothealthy, our brain is still

(01:04:01):
going to always find the chaosbecause that's what it knows to
be safe.
So, yeah, it's like noticing,like, oh, are we just stuck in
these patterns because that'swhat it knows to be safe?
So, yeah, it's like noticing,like, oh, are we just stuck in
these patterns because this iswhat our brain thinks is safe.
And when we detach from thesepatterns and try to find
something, a new way of beinglike is our brain and reality

(01:04:22):
pulling us in another way,because your brain always wants
to know what comes next.
So when you jump into that, andthat's the unknown and we want
to know.

Speaker 2 (01:04:33):
Yes, I know, personally I'm like doom
scrolling tiktok, because I'mlike I need to know what's
happening and there's like 55different conspiracy theories.
And then I'm just like ready tothrow up because I've just
taken on all this stuff and nowmy mind is like jumbled up and I
can't get grounded, and thethings like that.
And so sometimes it's like putthe phone down, grab a book and,

(01:04:56):
just, you know, do what it is.
I mean, for some people, for me, it's reading.
That really calms me.
Some people it's going to belike going to the gym.
Some other people it's going tobe like going to the gym.
Some other people it's going tobe going for a drive some
people are going to be sewingyeah, gonna be sewing, or
whatever it is doing a puzzle.
I love doing puzzles becauseit's it just allows um your mind

(01:05:19):
, your mind, to just kind offocus on something else.
And it's hard because we come,we become addicted to needing to
know what's happening yes, andwhat's next right?
And then we have the people whoare just like completely out of
touch and have no clue what'sgoing on.
It's like we're are we living indifferent timelines, what's
happening, but not everyone canbe in the same place yeah we

(01:05:40):
need people who are in thatspace of like oh I don't, I
don't even know about this, sohow could I be fearful of it?
I don't even like.
Then there's other people likeI know about this, like people
need to know about it, and so Imean we could go on and on for
like probably five hours talkingabout all this stuff, because
everything and energy, humanlife, everything is has become

(01:06:05):
and is seemingly so complex yesand there's no.

Speaker 1 (01:06:09):
It's.
It's not black or white and Ithink, right just being in this
space like this, this podcast,could feel a little chaotic and
like our energies are back andforth.
But that's what this is.
This is a conversation to sparkinspiration and there is really
no right answer there.
There's no wrong answer.
It's just.
It's tapping into your ownindividual needs.

(01:06:34):
It's letting go of feeling theneed to be right or to know
what's next and to allowyourself to get comfortable
being in the unknown and likewhatever that looks like for you
.
Figure out what that is Like.
It's different for you than itis for me, although reading like

(01:06:57):
I, I also really enjoy that.
Um, it's in the last couple ofyears.
It's something that's reallysaved me, because I was I was
one of those people who werereading for intellect and it was
always like a yoga book, aspiritual book, a self-help book
, like it was something to gainknowledge and like three years
ago, I read my first fictionbook that I read in a very long

(01:07:19):
time and it feels so good,doesn't it?
Oh my God.

Speaker 2 (01:07:24):
It was like jumping into someone else's story.
You're like I mean, it's notdisassociating.
But it is kind of like let medisassociate from my own shit
for a while.

Speaker 1 (01:07:33):
But also it's like, I think, that it allows you to
jump into imagination, andthat's something that, as we get
older.
We kind of like, don't play inthat.
Traveling Imagine.

Speaker 2 (01:07:45):
Yes, yes, you get to go to this other place, you get
to see this other lifestyle.
You get to, you know, likethere's so many factors to it
and it really is.
It's so beautiful and like Iwill say like I read a lot of
fiction and like rom-coms are myjam, but like these books
always come at the right timeand it's like whatever message

(01:08:07):
they have, I'm like, oh, that'swhy I'm reading this right now.
Sometimes I can't even get intoa book and then I'll pick it up
like weeks later and I'm like,okay, because now is the time I
get it.
And I used to be like you,reading all like the self-help,
and I'm like now I want nothingto do with it, nothing.

Speaker 1 (01:08:31):
Yeah, I needed I needed I needed a brain break,
and so I think that's what it isfor me now and I've talked
about it on the podcast.
My cousin started a book club.
It's going to be two years oldin March and that book club like
literally saved my life.
Like it was first of all soamazing to come together with a
lot of women who I wouldn't sayare like minded at all.
We come from very differentwalks of life but it's so

(01:08:52):
amazing that every four to sixweeks we come together and it's
different, different themesevery every time we meet.
And it was just so healing to meto be able to step out of my
own grief and life, fallingapart and being in that uh,

(01:09:17):
uncomfortability of um like thetransition time and it really
gave me like this thing to lookforward to and this like healthy
space to share with, with womenwho I'm sure, like, even though
we come from very differentwalks of life, very different
mindsets, and a lot of them,like I wouldn't say, are like me
at all, they're not intoconspiracies, they're not

(01:09:40):
spiritually minded people, theydon't really care about that
kind of stuff and for all of usto come together like once a
month, once every six weeks, toshare experience and to just
hold space for one another.
It's so healing and it just goesto show you like people can
come from different schools ofthought and come together in a

(01:10:02):
respectful and supportive way,absolutely, and and maybe, maybe
, that's the message today it'slike it doesn't matter where
you're coming from or like we'vebeen.
Our differences have beenpitted against one another and

(01:10:24):
it's time that we come togethernow and I think that these
tragedies that happen are sadand, whether they're conspiracy
or or, or natural disaster,whatever they may be, it's an
opportunity for us to cometogether as a community, both on
a small scale and and a largescale.
You know, I think I don't.

(01:10:45):
I know you were probably,because we're around the same
age, so I think like we werepretty young when 9-11 happened,
like I think.
I think I was in like seventhgrade okay yeah, so I was in
like fifth grade, um, but whathappened after?
The sea communities cometogether and that's like the

(01:11:07):
most united that this countryhas ever been.
And yeah, maybe it's because wewere united against a common
enemy, like there's something tobe said for that, and whether
it was right or wrong, like youknow, that's neither here nor
there, but like I think we'reseeing that happen too.
Like it's very unfortunatewhat's happening in California,
but I think that we're seeingpeople come together like we

(01:11:32):
haven't seen in a really longtime and absolutely this last
election.
Like we were divided by gender,by sexuality, by skin color, by
affiliation, like we weredivided any way that we could
have been divided, and now it'stime to heal those divisions and
and start to come together,whether it be because of this

(01:11:54):
tragedy or just because this isthe way forward to come together
in our differences.
Like I think that there you haveto look for the silver linings,
and I think that it'sunfortunate what's happening and
it's devastating.
But yeah, there's a, there's areason, there's a reason for the
season.
Totally agree, totally agree,um.

(01:12:18):
So if people are looking forsome tools, I know you have some
great tools to help people movethrough these energies.
So if people are looking towork with you and to work with
you and to work with theirenergy body, how can they find
you?

Speaker 2 (01:12:32):
So I have a website they can find me there,
venusrisingricom, and I'm alsoon Instagram, venusrisingri, and
I have many different ways wecould work together.
I have a weekly membership, um,or a monthly membership, I
should say, where we do weeklyenergy clearings and healing.

(01:12:55):
So it is a guided journey intoclearing your energy.
Um, whether you're there on thelive or not, your energy still
worked, which is a beautifulthing.
It's kind of like what we weresaying, like getting your hand
held.
It feels nice, but it is nice tofully realize the energy when
you do listen to the recordingor if you join live, it helps to
understand what you're goingthrough on a collective and

(01:13:17):
individual basis.
And then, if you want, like apersonal one-on-one as to like a
deep dive into your own energyand what's going on for you
personally.
I do have offerings for that aswell, and that would be my
release session, where we do afull, deep dive into the
energetic system that you are inright now, unwinding and

(01:13:41):
releasing patterns that areholding you back.
All the fun stuff, looking atthe tools that you specifically
need.

Speaker 1 (01:13:50):
And then, if you are local to Rhode Island or close
by, we actually, danielle and Iare doing an in-person event at
Sway Yoga on January 31st.
So if you want to know moreabout that, you can reach out to
either of us on social media,on this podcast, there's a way

(01:14:10):
to reach out to me and we canget you a little bit more
information on that.
But we're going to be doing anew moon and Aquarius sound bath
and that should be anotherreally awesome tool.

Speaker 2 (01:14:24):
Yeah, I'm excited for it I think it'll be an exciting
way so amazing and so healingand transformative, just like
really moving, moving the energyin such a profound way.

Speaker 1 (01:14:39):
Yeah, sound healing was one of the ways that I
really got into meditation,because I was one of those
people who were like I can't sitand meditate.
That's boring.
But sound gave me something tofocus on, and focusing on the
sound, on the frequency, reallyhelped me to let go of those
crazy thoughts that come up andit allowed me to find the

(01:15:02):
present moment, giving mesomething to focus on on.
So sound has been greatlyhealing for me and has been a
great tool to have in my toolbox.
So I'm excited to be able toshare that with with others and
to be in a collective space withyou me too.
It's gonna be awesome, can'twait.

(01:15:22):
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I'll hear.
Wow, I can't even talk thisfull moon.
Like time for me to go to bed,I think map time.
Yeah, I hope you find exactlywhat you need in this space this
week.
Thank you for being here andI'll talk to you next time.