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Ever feel like you're stuck in the same patterns, facing the same emotional triggers or life challenges on repeat? You’re not stuck—you’re moving through the sacred spiral of healing. In this deeply insightful episode, Giana sits down with Danielle to explore the cyclical nature of personal growth and how we can find empowerment, not frustration, in revisiting familiar themes with fresh eyes.
Together, we unpack what it means to move through cycles of transformation, especially as sensitive souls, empaths, and spiritual seekers navigating big energy shifts—like the recent Scorpio full moon. We talk nervous system regulation, the mind-body-spirit connection, and the importance of integration and sacred pause.
✨ Topics we dive into:
- How the Scorpio full moon stirs deep emotional waters—especially for empaths
- Understanding your nervous system as a dragon: a metaphor to help reframe anxiety as protection
- Why healing isn't linear and how the sacred spiral offers new wisdom at each pass
- You can only be as spiritual as you are grounded—and vice versa
- Why time isn’t linear (and how trusting divine timing leads to real closure)
- The power of integration, embodiment, and slowing down so your nervous system can catch up
- Honoring ancient healing practices while navigating conversations around cultural appropriation
- How different healing modalities—yoga, therapy, energy work—are all speaking the same soul language
I also get personal, sharing a vulnerable moment when I had a panic attack while teaching yoga—and how that moment turned into a heart-opening connection with my students. Plus, I reflect on what it meant to get an unexpected call from an ex—two years post-breakup—and how manifestation works in divine timing, not ours.
This episode is for anyone walking the healing path, feeling the waves of old wounds resurfacing, and wondering if they’re really growing. (Spoiler: you are.)
✨ Join us live: Come experience our Sound Bath Duet at Sway Yoga in Coventry on Friday, May 16th at 7PM!
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Welcome to the Nearly Enlightened Podcast, a high
vibe toolbox designed to helpyou connect to your body, mind
and spirit.
I'm your host, gianna Giarrusso, and I'm here to share tools,
conversations and insights tohelp you on your journey of
self-discovery.
This podcast is all aboutexploring what it means to live
a conscious, connected andnearly enlightened life, because
, the truth is, the answersaren't outside of us, they're
(00:23):
already within.
Let's dive in.
Today, I am joined by ourfriend, danielle.
Welcome back, danielle.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
I know so much to talk about.
I feel like it's been, likeit's been a long time, a couple
months since you've been on lastand it feels longer.
It does feel longer.
It actually might be like acouple weeks, but that's okay,
neither here nor there.
Um, we're just coming off ofthe scorpio full moon, and that
was a lot I literally haven'tfor the empath, I have not slept
(00:57):
in over a week, like it isactually kind of crazy.
It's been really messing with mysleep and I know that's kind of
like an indication like maybelike it's time for a parasite
cleanse, but that's like a storyfor another day, yeah, but yeah
, like we could go on about thatfor hours I know.
Cause you've been detoxing too.
So I mean it's a huge part ofespecially this full moon, I had
(01:20):
some like dormant stuff come upand I was like that's a scorpio
energy once and for all, yeahthat scorpio energy, yeah so,
but the like few sleeps that Idid get here and there, like I
had some intense dreams yes andyeah, it's just been.
I'm like ready to, I'm ready tomove past this energy a little
(01:42):
bit.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Yeah, it's been intense today's, like my first
day I'm feeling to move pastthis energy a little bit.
Yeah, it's been intense.
Today's, like my first day, I'mfeeling a little bit relieved
and over the weekend I was likecrippled, literally like
crippled to the core.
I was having such severestomach issues.
Yeah, I was like crippled byanxiety.
(02:02):
I think for empaths right nowis really challenging uh, energy
because we have Pluto inretrograde, which is challenging
or like, I guess notchallenging but bringing us into
a deeper sense of safety hereon earth.
And if you're not feeling safeon earth, wow, it's funny.
I was like cruising, and then Iwas like, oh shit, I'm not, like
(02:27):
I have a lot of my sense ofsafety wrapped up in like
freedom, but then my freedom iswrapped up in like a sense of
abandonment.
So there's like so many layersthat I think people are
experiencing that they are ableto like in my line of work and
in shamanic practice we call itlike the sacred spiral, where
(02:48):
you're on the same journey butyou're looking at it from a
different viewpoint.
So it feels like you're goingbackwards, but you're actually
not.
You're just in a differentspace, on the staircase and
you're at a higher level.
Yeah, you're at a higher level.
So I'm looking at these thingsand I'm noticing there's certain
ways that I'm like feeling thatI maybe would have, in a lower
(03:09):
consciousness, thought like, oh,it's anger, or it's like
somebody else like pushing itoff, but now it's like, okay,
these are all my emotions and my, my physical body needs to feel
them and ouch.
I know a lot of stuff going on.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
I know and you know it's.
It's funny you say that youlike get to a place where you're
like coasting and you're like,oh, I'm good.
I was like very much the sameand last week I had a lot of
anxiety and I had a full-blown Italked about it on the podcast,
I believe like last week, but Ihad a full, a full blown panic
attack while I was teaching.
Oh my God.
(03:46):
And that is so scary because,like, first of all, I felt like
I was going to pass out, like mylegs and arms went numb and I'm
like, yeah, you pass out inthis class If I go down, like
what, what is everyone going todo?
Like we're in the middle of ayoga class, like they're here to
unplug and like just have anhour.
(04:06):
And I'm like, oh, this is likejust what I need but, like I
felt like I was in the spiral,and then it was like a heated
power yoga class.
So I just brought everyone downto a seat and I was like, okay,
I was super transparent.
I was like I am in the middleof a full-blown panic attack
right now, like I'm trying topull it the fuck together and
like we're all going to sit hereand breathe for a minute.
(04:27):
And it was very helpful.
And it reminded me of like whyI got into this.
Like I have suffered withanxiety since I was 10.
The first time I had a panicattack I was like 10 years old,
so so young.
I was always searching for thetool to like alleviate this, and
so it was just a reminder oflike okay, lean on your tools.
(04:47):
Like you're going to getthrough it.
This is only temporary.
This, too, shall pass, and like, of course it did, and I'm
right.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
And in the middle of a, class and teaching where
you're wanting to like be theleader, but have to show that
you're just like everybody elseand that you have your own shit
too.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
It's like crippling it, you're just like everybody
else and that you have your ownshit too.
It's like crippling, it is andit's scary and I'm like, oh, all
I need is for somebody to belike this was you know, go to
the owner of the studio and belike this was a shitty class
because Gianna wasn't present,and like this whole thing
happened.
But, honestly, everyone wassuper supportive and like two
(05:25):
different people came up to meand they were like, oh my God, I
have been experiencing anxiety.
Like anxiety is something Ideal with.
Like thank you for just beingkeeping it real?
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Yeah, Well, I mean I think with a full moon too, like
I think we should like talkabout some parasitic energy,
because that's when parasitesare the most active and I'm
sorry, we all have them.
So most people are feelingextremely ungrounded physically,
like agitated and aggravatedand just like antsy.
And I don't know if you noticedthere was a shit ton of traffic
(05:51):
which people can start losingtheir shit over traffic, like if
you're not, not grounded andyou're being like your vessels
being driven by, you know know,like an entity, like a parasite
or someone else's energy, thenlike you're not going to feel
good and it it really can takeover.
(06:12):
So I mean I see that a lotduring the full moon, so I'm
like I mean it's intensive, Imean they're, they're beautiful
and I think, especially forwomen, because we are in the
same cycle as a moon, that wefeel it maybe a little bit more
intensely or a little more awareof it.
Yep, you know, I think thatthere's definitely men out there
(06:33):
who are aware of it too, but Ithink it's just more prominent,
naturally, within a female,because of our own 28-day cycle.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
Yeah, exactly.
It's funny, like the last, likeI would say, for like almost
the last year now I've been onlike my cycle has been pretty
synced up, where I am ovulatingwith the full moon and I'm
bleeding with a new moon.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Same.
Oh funny, it's been interesting.
It's an interesting dynamic.
You know when it, when itshifts and it changes and stuff,
and you kind of have to go withit.
Like you kind of tell where youare when it, when it shifts and
it changes and stuff, and youkind of have to go with it.
It's like you kind of tellwhere you are in life when, when
it, your cycle starts to shift.
But it's kind of exciting ifyou look at it through that that
lens.
But still it can be like alsofeel like a lot of pressure and
(07:18):
a lot of things like happening.
One thing that came up to withthis this full moon was, I
noticed I really wanted everyoneelse to do everything for me
and I was like this goes alongwith that sense of safety and
it's like it cannot come fromoutside of you, it cannot like
no one else can do anything tomake you feel secure, Like they
(07:38):
can do that, but it's just goingto mask and so finding that own
like your own inner sense ofsafety, and I found it helpful,
helpful to like get back to whatare your values, what are you
rooting into?
Another thing that we connectinto in shamanic practice is
Mother Earth.
Like you're grounded in MotherEarth, you're connected to
(08:00):
Father Sky or Father Son,whatever you want to call it,
because they're the divineparents.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Right.
And also like going, liketaking it even a step further,
like you can only be as groundedas you are spiritual and
spiritual as you are groundedRight.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
So you have to be the pillar you're in between.
Like you're bridging the gapbetween the spiritual world and
the physical world.
Like that is you and both arerunning through that channel
which is like your chakra system.
So that's calming to thenervous system, creating that
inner sense of safety.
I actually just saw on TikToksomeone posted what was like the
(08:39):
most life-changing thing thatyour therapist told you and
someone said my therapist toldme to that my nervous system was
a dragon and that it was hereto protect me at like fiercely.
And I was like, oh my God, thatlike makes sense with like the
whole dragon thing.
And it's so true.
(09:00):
Like you have to let yournervous system override and not
let your emotions override thenervous system and not let your
experience override the nervoussystem.
Like your nervous system has tobe solid and always
recalibrating in order to returnto that inner sense of peace,
that inner sense of safety.
I just like thought it was sucha good analogy.
I'm like I'm gonna call on ared dragon now to oh, I love
(09:23):
that work my nervous system.
This is just like going to be mynew thing.
I love whatever color dragonyou want.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
Um, I love that and you were talking about, so you
have this monthly.
Uh, actually it's weekly, isn'tit?
Speaker 2 (09:40):
So it's weekly, so it's a monthly um membership,
like a monthly subscription, butI have my weekly energy healing
and clearings called Revitalize.
So every week on Tuesday, 12 to1230, I go live on Google Meet
and if you can join, you join in, but if not, you get the replay
and your energy is being workedduring that time and I'm doing
(10:03):
the energy work and the healingand the clearing, the
transmission I would call it.
At the same time I'm guidingyou on a journey that spirit is
leading me to guide.
I never know what it's going tobe like.
I get in there and I'm like,okay, so what's it today?
And actually today, because it'sTuesday, was all about finding
(10:26):
safety here on earth and weactually went into the temple of
the heart, which was where Inoticed, like we were guided to
look at within the heart, at theemotions, the lower beliefs,
the fear that had crystallizedwithin the heart, really
(10:47):
paralyzing us from movingforward and moving into that
sense of freedom, that innersense of slow and being able to
be authentic, and the truth ofwho we are.
And then it like so beautifullyled into, like you were able to
open the door to your ownlittle temple and there was like
(11:08):
meeting your spirit council andmaybe it was like your people
in your community, maybe it waslike other beings.
There was a lot going on inthere and then it was like
Mother Earth rose to theoccasion in the center of that
and like just spilled out, likeso all of her, like tree roots
and the moss and the grass andthe rivers and stuff, were
flowing out and all through thebody and out into life, where
(11:31):
it's just like everything washeld in this solid foundation.
Because when we are unattachedor ungrounded, I should say
because we we strive fordetachment, but when we are
we're overly attached and notrooted into something meaningful
.
And there are some people whoare meant to just be here and be
(11:51):
like willy nilly, you know,free for all and good for them.
But most empaths and spiritualleaders are here to really root
into something meaningful andexpansive.
So there can be a real sense oflike hanging if you're stuck up
in the 5D and only connectingwith spirit guides and only
(12:15):
connecting with divine, going upinto that meditative state.
We have to go into the darkplaces too.
We have to go into theunderworld, which you know we
would be considered below, belowground, and that's where we can
remember that we're one withthe plants, the animals,
everything, but we still havethe warmth of the sun to shine
down on us.
Yeah, so yeah, it was intense,it was great, it was great it's.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
I feel like it's the time of year for it.
It's like we're like springcleaning physically, but also
like energetically, emotionally,and I feel like this is a
really um, like we always saythis in astrology, right, like
I'm rolling my eyes at myself,like this is a really powerful
time.
But there feels somethingdifferent about this May, like
(13:02):
it feels like there are liketimelines shifting.
We're like, yes, moving through, I don't know, it just feels
like.
It feels like somethingdifferent is really shifting.
It's.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
I think it's the linear perception is really um,
like falling away right now,because we're we're so used to
being like life is on thistimeline, like an arrow, like a
beginning, middle and an end,and then we're like learning
that things are um, cyclical,right, we're seeing a lot of the
same stuff come up and it goesback to that spiral I was
(13:39):
talking about.
Like it seems like we're goingbackwards and then we're on this
merry-go-round.
But if you open up that circleand it turns into a spiral, you
notice we're going backwards andthat we're on this
merry-go-round.
But if you open up that circleand it turns into a spiral, you
notice we're just looking at itfrom a new and wiser lens and a
different perspective of wherewe might have looked at in the
(13:59):
past.
And the illusion ofmanipulation and things like
that can come up veryprominently for people if
they're only in this linearmindset and they can feel like
they're taking a step back orthat they're too late or running
out of time, or like they're onthe hamster wheel, which I feel
like that often and I have toremind myself I mean we're all
(14:22):
still human often and I have toremind myself I mean we're all
still human but, like we've beenfed this concept of time that
you know, the ancient conceptsof time have just fallen away,
where, like you, can heal thepast and it can change what
you're seeing in the, in yourcurrent reality, and you can
(14:42):
also travel into the future andbring that wisdom back into the
present reality as well, so thatthey're all intertwined and
interconnected.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
So yes, I just think like that linear mindset is
(15:14):
really a start of the new yearand you feel that fire and that
like readiness to the newbeginning beginning.
Yes, you feel that readiness tojust like shed those layers and,
like you said, look at thingsthat come up through this new
perspective and, um, I'll getsuper candid here, and I don't
actually even think you knowthis, so this will be shocking
(15:34):
to you too, but for many of youwho have been listening to the
podcast, you know that in um 20I guess it was 2023.
I went through a breakup, um,after being with somebody for
almost four years and then, likewe literally went from living
together to not speaking and, um, there was like a lot of it was
(15:59):
like unresolved kind of notfeelings, but just like I've
talked about it on the podcast,like I felt a huge betrayal and
I felt like blindsided and itwas just like this, what the
fuck kind of thing?
And I spent all of 2024 andreally all of yeah, all of like
(16:22):
the back half of 2023 and all of2024, like really putting
myself back together and movingforward and and learning from
from what happened and coming toterms with the fact that like,
yes, I used to live with thisperson, I was with them for four
years and then, like strangersand out of nowhere, a couple of
(16:43):
weeks, I get the phone call thatI knew was going to happen.
Oh my God, two years later, twoyears later, and it's like okay
, if you're trying to clear yourconscience, like already, like
water under the bridge, like ah,right, right, like I can't even
put it to words and it was onlya four minute phone
(17:05):
conversation, but it was areminder of how far I've come,
and like I, I didn't need thatclosure.
Like the closure was the notspeaking.
The closure was how it allended.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
Um, so old.
You needed that closure, though, and it just goes to show that,
like, manifestation is real,and you were manifesting that
closure two years ago, yep, andnow it's like, now it's a divine
right time, and because youkind of let it completely go.
It's like when you losesomething.
Once you accept the fact thatyou lost something, you're like,
(17:43):
oh no, I found it.
It's like, when you losesomething, once you accept the
fact that you lost something,you're like, oh no, I found it.
It's like, once you let go andtrust that it's exactly the
right thing.
That's when you move into thenew beginning, right, and that's
exactly kind of what happenedto you.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
It only took two years, but it only took two
fucking years yes divine timingbaby and also like just a
reminder of being inrelationship, whether it's
romantic or friendship or fam,familial, like sometimes it's
not on your timeline or what youwant, or like how you think
(18:15):
things should be done, like thatother person has to go through
their experience too righteveryone has free will.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
You can like, sense that it's gonna happen, you can
want it to happen, but if thatperson does not have the will to
do it, you can't force that.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
You don't want to energetically, you don't want to
force that, and as somebodywho's like spiritual and I hate
using this word but like ahealer, it's hard because you
want to drag your partner along,and I would like especially
towards the end of ourrelationship.
And then, when it did end, itwas like no, listen to me, cause
(18:52):
I know what I'm talking about.
Like I know this is what'sgoing to happen, like we're
going to stop speaking, you'regoing to stay stuck in this
spiral and like, whatever thefuck you're doing, I'm going to
pick up the pieces and move on,and then you're going to get it
the fuck together when it's toolate.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
And that's exactly what happened yeah, well, and
that's a learning lesson forthem, right?
Yes, exactly it's just to showyou like it kind of shakes the
platform for you to like are youhappy where you are or is this
going to challenge you?
It's like it's your test.
The universe loves to like comeback and be like you said.
You're really done with this,so let's give you the final exam
(19:30):
.
And that's kind of like I thinkpeople harp on why did this
happen?
Why is this happening?
Blah, blah, blah.
But it's like sometimes, whenwe can just like view it from
the point of like oh, this iskind of funny, like yes, I still
, I still am in this place oflike it was the right thing.
I still have and hold thisbelief and this value and this
vision for myself and theuniverse is like, and this value
(19:52):
and this vision for myself andthe universe is like okay, now
we move on, something nextsomething new, but it has to
come up, otherwise we don't.
We can't challenge our beliefswithout having contrast.
And trust me, like I cannotstand the contrast just as much
as somebody else, but when youreally sink into the spiritual
aspect of it, it's like abeautiful thing.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
Yeah, but when?
Speaker 2 (20:10):
we have that physical reality, we're like we forget
that it's beautiful.
We're like, wow, the fact thatit's happening to me, all these
negative things are happening.
It's like, okay, well, we'rejust being challenged.
What's your value and what areyou rooting into and what
beliefs?
Otherwise, your subconscious isorchestrating your whole life
(20:31):
and if you have a subconsciousbelief or you have hidden
emotions that are driving thebus, that's when you know like
oh so, if you don't like yourouter reality, that's when we
can go in and start looking atwhat's subwired there and what
these like different layers ofare going on within you, within
your energy map.
And that's just like are goingon within you within your energy
(20:54):
map, and that's just likewhat's so cool about energy
which is scientifically proven?
But it's like not justspirituality.
It's like this is energy andit's it's so fascinating.
Yes, and this is just like theinfinite consciousness.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
This is what we're talking about in the deep, in
your practice challenge.
So, like you look at it througha yogic sphere or a spiritual
lens or whatever it like, itreflects each other.
So, like what we're talkingabout right now, like we're not
talking about it in the contextof like traditional yoga, so to
speak, but it the lessons andthe tools they really mimic one
(21:31):
another.
So like they knew what theywere doing 5000 years ago when
they created the yoga practice.
So it's funny, like just theconversation I just wrapped with
the like this is kind of whatwe're talking about is like
moving, like allowing yourselfto move through these things,
seeing what comes up, notletting the emotions or the
thoughts, like be the driver ofthe bus.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
Right, and I tell us I say this all the time because,
especially in this industry oflike, we're working in the
unseen realms like you and youless so like, but my, my work is
in the unseen realms.
I'm in the, the, the psyche ofmy clients and the people who
I'm working with Right, and I'mguiding their journey.
I'm in their journey, I'm inbetween worlds, I'm moving into
(22:15):
through different dimensionswhich was hard to conceptualize
as a human being.
With you, you have like theyoga and stuff.
But so what I often tell peopleis they're like oh, is this
like?
We always get that.
Oh, are you the witch doctor?
Are you that whatever?
Oh, are you the witch doctor?
(22:35):
Are you the whatever?
So I say it to people who are,like, really heavily religious.
I say it to people who areworking in corporate Everybody
whether you see a therapist, youare going to yoga, you're
getting energy work or you'regoing to church, whatever your
modality is, we all have thesame mission.
It's language.
(22:56):
Go with what language speaks toyou.
I mean, I work with a lot ofempaths because they're heavily
in the unseen realm, right,they're not sure like, they're
just absorbing emotions,thoughts, energies that are, you
know, through the people, theplaces, the things that they're
(23:17):
interacting with.
And it's hard to understandthat because they might not
understand the unseen world asmuch as I do and what I've
learned to navigate it, whereasyou, like, you're working more
with the physical body, and sothere we have so much of the
same information.
So there, we have so much ofthe same information.
It's all language.
What language are you speaking?
And that's what draws people tocertain quote unquote healers or
(23:42):
guides.
Let's call it a guide, becausethat's really what it is.
It's like you're guiding peopleto that inner peace.
You're guiding people to betheir own inner healer because,
at the end of the day, you'renot stretching for them, you're
not in the down dog position forthem.
They're getting to that placebecause you guided them through
the motions, through the visuals, to get there, but they found
(24:05):
that inner peace within and theygot themselves to the class.
So I always say that it's likeyou are the one healing yourself
, I'm just the guide, and whenwe bring you into this space and
you, you can obviously getthere because you did.
It might take anotherconnection, another person, to
connect that bridge that youknow, those, those plugs to plug
(24:28):
that in for you to be like hey,you know, do this plug in over
here, but same story over, it'sall the same.
Like you, you see it in thebible.
You see it like I know.
You know more about the biblethan I know anyone I know but
that's what catholic school doesat catholic school for 12 years
are say the same thingbasically I know, I know, you
(24:51):
know what's funny.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
I just um stumbled upon an instagram yesterday and
it was talking about the samething, about how we interpret
the bible and the quran and theold testament, the torah.
Um, we've kind of likedistorted the language a little
bit and, and what I said at thebeginning, you know, we, we say
(25:13):
in the spirit realm, like asabove, so below, but the actual
translation of that is actuallythat they're the same, they're
one in the same.
So I think that that is sointeresting and I love seeing
these links.
It's like choose your way ofgetting there, but like it's,
it's all just conduits and it'signiting that inner healer and
(25:35):
that's why nearly enlightenedwas born.
Because I could not stand beingon social media, like seeing
these like spiritual influencerspop up where it's like do this
program and I will, I will healyou.
It's like no, I will.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
I think it's illegal to say that I will give you.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
I will give you.
I'm pretty sure that mightconnect you to your body, mind
and spirit, Like I don't knowit's.
It's interesting but yeah, likenearly enlightened was born
because I couldn't stand beingpractitioners who were like
putting themselves up onpedestals and being like I am
(26:14):
the way.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
Right, I know, and it's so.
It's hard and you know whatit's like.
It's just hard.
Social media is like exhausting, but it's all perception right.
For me it feels extremelyoverwhelming.
I'd rather have someone else doit for me.
I don't post often because I'mlike I for me.
I'm like I have 10 people who Iinteract with.
I know they're going to watchmy stories.
I'm going to post in my stories.
(26:37):
They might say like that's badmarketing.
I really don't care.
The people who are going tofind me are going to find me,
but I also still feel guilt ifI'm not posting or you know, and
there's so much stigma andjudgment and I think we forget
that.
But we're really judgingourselves and we're judging
other people.
So that's what we're going to bemet with and we really forget
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about that and it's hard.
It's really hard because it'sall in your reality.
And going back to differentreligions and how you're reading
the Quran or the Bible orwhatever it is, what's your
perception?
It's what you're reading,what's your interpretation of it
.
One person might have a reallypositive interpretation of it,
(27:20):
one person might not.
We can't all like the same thing, you know, but we're all
relating in some way and peopleare just like have fallen off.
It's like have some compassion,like have fallen off.
It's like have some compassionhat, like we all want the same
thing for the greater good, andthey focus on one person or one
thing that they don't like andharp on it.
(27:41):
And that's just what I've been,what I've been finding on
social media, and I'm like youknow what?
I can't?
I cannot deal with this.
I don't want to be and I willadmit like if I'm going on
social media, I'm I've not everposted on Tik TOK, I'm just a
scroller and I love to read thecomments because they're so
(28:02):
funny and like uplifting anddifferent platforms you like.
Maybe it's my perception ofInstagram, where I'm like I find
Instagram extremely boring attimes and then I find like the
comments are really mean.
I don't really use Facebook atall anymore.
But it's all perception, it'sfunny I have this idea in my
head that Instagram is boringand I don't like it.
(28:24):
So obviously I'm going to findmore relatable content, more fun
on TikTok, because I'm alsokind of hiding there, because
I'm not posting.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
Well, it's funny, like this challenge D and I keep
saying it's like, yes, we putit out there to be beneficial
and to bring value and to bringlight to these yogic practices
that kind of don't get theattention that they deserve in
the modern world.
But this challenge has reallyended up becoming for us and we
(28:57):
keep joking about this.
And showing up on social mediawas a huge part of it for me
because, like, I have an okayfollowing, like it's nothing
crazy, but I do have a lot ofengagement and um, it's, it's
building.
So I I think that was part ofmy panic attack was like
freaking out about putting beingvulnerable and putting this
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stuff out there and like notbeing good with technology and
there is a little bit of acringe factor of like recording
yourself and being like, oh, mygod.
I sound like that.
I look that Like it's been achallenge to move through and
like I wouldn't be able to do itwithout D because, like
technology, it's funny becauseI'm sitting here doing my
(29:40):
podcasts that I record myselfand upload myself and do all the
show notes.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
You have that person who's telling you it's safe, go
ahead.
It looks good, you're doinggood Like.
Not only that, but she has beenlike validation and like
creating most of my my real.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
So like talk about, like having somebody do it for
you, like I'm a projector andlike I really need this team
effort and so like having thisteam effort has been so great
for me, right, yeah, and givenme so much courage like so much
more courage than I think that Iwould have had, and if anyone
(30:15):
goes and like looks back onthese reels, we've been posting
pretty much daily and we've beensharing some pretty vulnerable
things and absolutely.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
But it's like people are people want to hide right
now and that's kind of whatrevitalize was too is like what
is keeping you paralyzed and inhiding, like, which is
ultimately fear of beingauthentic and truthful to
yourself and your needs, andlike something or someone, some
trauma has boxed you intofeeling like, and social media
(30:49):
is kind of like a like you neverknow where your stuff's going,
you don't know how many peopleit's going to reach.
We've never really had thatoutreach before and because we's
like we, when we go to sleep atnight, like you're going out
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and like infinite consciousness,so like where, where are you
going?
And I, that's, I think, veryscary for people and to be seen
by that much it feels safer whenyou do it in the dream world,
cause we're like okay, likemusical like or like in a
meditative state.
We know we can reach that, butit's difficult for people right
(31:40):
now to conceptualize and wraptheir head around that.
I mean myself included.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
It's been extremely difficult for me because, like,
putting some of these things outthere, it's like, oh, it goes
back to that judgment piece.
Because, like putting some ofthese things out there, it's
like, oh, it goes back to thatjudgment piece.
It's like, oh, people are goingto judge me, are people going
to think I'm appropriatingculture?
Because, like I'm not Indian orlike you know, whatever the
story is, that comes up.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
I feel it all the time.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
I have been moving through a lot of that I do want,
because I think at this point,modern yoga, we are
appropriating culture.
If we're just talking aboutasana, if we're just talking
about the physical practice,like I, I think that we are.
So this was like it wassomething I knew I needed to do.
(32:27):
Like, let's bring all eightlimbs to the forefront because,
first of all, they're greattools to have.
Like, even if you never stepfoot on your mat, even if you
never practice asana, knowingthese other tools is hugely
beneficial and will transformyour life, like I will.
I will put a guarantee stamp onthat, like I know it will.
(32:50):
That's why this practice hasbeen around for 5,000 years,
because it fucking works.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
Right, exactly, I say that about my work too, and I
like to call myself a shamanicpractitioner.
I don't like being called ashaman or, you know, say I'm a
shaman because, well, first ofall, it's wrapping your identity
up in what you do and second ofall, it's it's a way of life
for me, for sure, but I'mpracticing the tools and the
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techniques that have been passedon to me and the beliefs and
the rituals and stuff like that.
So it's an honoring of theancient way.
We're bringing it into themodern world.
And I'm constantly having toask my spirit guides, like what
is this going to look like inthe modern world?
Because what you're showing me,or what I'm intuiting, is so
like ancient.
(33:36):
Like you, when you're thinkinglike we've got to have this big
bonfire and it's going to be outin the middle of like nowhere
and we have to, like you know,maybe people think like that
they're, they're having stuffhappen in like a TP or something
.
You know what I mean.
I'm like no, no, like I justbought myself an indoor solo
stove in case it's like rainingand I can't have an actual
(33:58):
bonfire.
I'm like here we get out thelittle solo stove.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
I love that.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
And then we do a little ritual.
You know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
I love that.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
There's so many things that, but I feel you on
the cultural appropriation I itmakes me feel like too like who
the fuck am I Like?
Cause people are reallystarting to want to learn now
and I'm starting to have a lotof like classes and things like
come through me through the lensof the medicine wheel and
through the lens of shamanicpractice and I'm happy to pass
(34:27):
it on.
But there's also that part ofme that's like what and I also
don't like criticism.
So that's a great combinationof not wanting to be judged and
criticism and who am I right?
But those are all layers.
Yeah, I mean beliefs that I'vehad to work through, that I'm
still working through.
It's all layered, layered,layered, and people just think,
(34:49):
oh, it's a.
We should be over this, weshould be done with this.
Like, why are we repeatinghistory?
It's like we're looking at itthrough a different lens.
We're looking at our life froma different perspective.
Now We've grown in some way,we're wiser, we're going to
notice something that had oncebeen hidden to us because either
the information wasn'tavailable, because we weren't
(35:11):
open to it, but now we're goingto understand a lot faster.
And we're going to understandfrom that higher perspective.
Right, because we're alwaysevolving and spiraling and
whether that's we're going backinward and then spiraling back
out, going back into the world,I always, when I'm directing
energy, I'm always like you wantto hone it in close to you
(35:32):
first.
You want that spiral to comeinward so that you can deeply
connect with yourself beforespiraling back out and sharing
yourself with the world.
So we got to make sure we'rereally clear.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
I mean as within, so without yes, and it's taking
that time to integrate.
Like we just D, and I justtalked about this.
It's like, well, that's whyShavasana is the most important
of the poses.
It's because, right, you thinkyou're just laying there, but
really it's a time to integrateall that you've learned in that
class or in that practice.
And if you don't allow thattime for integration, then your
(36:05):
body, your brain, it like hastrouble connecting the pieces
and catching up with one another.
But allowing that like nervoussystem reset, that that's that
sacred pause, right it'simperative in society where it's
like keep going keep going.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
I know go, go, go push through like if we're
resting for any reason.
We're like we're not being.
It's not even about beingproductive, it's like
uncomfortable or you're wastingtime and that's when people get
anxiety and that's when peopleare like I've been in.
I'm a manifester in human design, so I've been in like my
manifester rest mode.
Like nothing is, like no taskis completing, nothing is like
(36:45):
there's obstacles everywhere.
I'm like why the fuck can't Ijust like accept the fact that I
need to rest.
Once I reset my nervous systemand I got into that, okay, I was
actually after a revitalizedstate, because it always helps
me too Just like yoga helps youwhen you're doing it and I was
(37:05):
like, oh, okay, this is it.
Like I don't feel the need tolike reach for what's next,
what's next?
I actually picked up my bookand I was reading for like 20
minutes before we got on thiscall and I was like, okay, I'm
feeling it, I'm into this restand like now I feel like I'm
back on track and like acceptingof it.
I'm sure when I go home and I'min a house full of people who
(37:28):
are like doing 50 things at oncebecause they're not in their
rest period, I'm going to startfeeling weird again.
And that's when it's like no, no, no, no.
You need to have the awarenessto say, okay, it's okay, it's
safe for me to rest, even thoughall these people are moving
around me and it's the same thatgoes out and like that's just a
very um, like specific example.
(37:50):
Like if you live with otherpeople but you and I both live
with family, so like there'speople moving in in the house
all the time and different typesof people.
Same goes for outside in theworld.
If you're like getting in intoyour car and driving, like
there's all those differenttypes of people, like some
people are going to be in ahurry, some people are going to
be in rest mode, going reallyslow, and you might be in that
(38:10):
active state and really slow andyou might be in that active
state.
We just need to learn andaccept that everybody's on
different cycles and timelinesand like focus on your own
energy but have compassion forothers, and we lose sight of
that a lot.
Speaker 1 (38:27):
Yes, I know, I know, I.
It's like what I was talkingabout it.
It's like sometimes you justwant to like pull people up to
your level, but like yeah, youcan't, you have to let them go
through their own process andlike detach from that.
Speaker 2 (38:40):
Well, even in like the shamanic, through the
shamanic view is like we wouldcall that higher, that highest,
like level of knowledge eagle,where you're soaring with the
eagle and you can see everythingfor what it is and you can meet
challenge when it rises andrise above right.
But you can only get to thatplace if you are also wishing
(39:02):
that for others, that you arealso wishing the best for others
.
That's why when we I talk aboutmanifestation, when I'm talking
about making changes in yourown life, I'm talking about for
the highest good of all involved.
Right, and the highest good ofall involved is everyone on this
planet.
Because when you are setting anintention or that you're like
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speaking a manifestation outinto the world, the whole
universe starts firing behindthe scenes, the whole world
starts moving Like I like tothink of it as like a movie,
when sometimes it's like theopening of a movie and you see
one person but like maybe it'san aerial view and the person's
in a market and then you can seelike a couple of streets over
(39:47):
the person they're gonna meetdown the line in the movie is in
like a house when the window islit up or something Like you
have to think of your life likethat, like things are moving and
shifting for you and and aroundyou.
But that means everything elsearound you, the people, places,
the things are shifting andmoving and if you can't grasp
that and you're thinking it'sall about you, then you're not
(40:10):
going to get to that levelbecause you're going to get
stuck in those limiting beliefs.
You're going to get stuck inthe, in the distrust.
You're going to reach thatlevel of trust for maybe a
couple of days and you're goingto be like I'm going to fall
back in my old ways Resentment,anger.
I can't coexist with people.
Speaker 1 (40:29):
For the projectors.
It's bitterness.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
Yes, I think mine's like anger or frustration or
something.
I think it's anger, nofrustration, I don't know.
I think a generator, because alot of my family um are
generators, except my two niecesare both projectors.
I'm like, oh my gosh, it's sofunny.
But um, I think a generator isfeel they need to feel satisfied
(40:55):
in order to, which is hard.
It's hard to find thatsatisfaction to be in like their
most.
Speaker 1 (41:03):
I need to feel at peace.
Speaker 2 (41:05):
That's my authenticity is feeling at peace
.
I'm like that tracks.
Speaker 1 (41:10):
I think for projectors, it's like feeling uh
being invited.
I think that's yes, beinginvited.
Yeah, I think for projectorsit's like feeling uh being
invited.
I think that's being invited.
Speaker 2 (41:16):
Well, I think that's like.
Well, manifestors are the end,like they have to inform people
um, and projectors they have towait to be invited.
I forget what it is, um thatyou want to be feeling.
I don't know.
I guess it doesn't matter, orit'll come to me, like at
midnight tonight.
Speaker 1 (41:35):
I know, as soon as we , as soon as we hit end exactly,
exactly, oh my gosh.
Speaker 2 (41:44):
So I was just thinking about how it's like
already May and we have oursound bath.
Speaker 1 (41:49):
I know this Friday.
Speaker 2 (41:52):
I'm so excited for it , though, so if any, Rhode
Islanders, new Englanders, arelistening.
Speaker 1 (41:58):
Before Friday, may 16th, we are hosting a sound
bath duet at Sway Yoga inCoventry at seven um, so come
and join us.
Speaker 2 (42:10):
It's so I love doing the duet because it's like
there's never a lapse in sound.
It's like there's always thatmovement and that flow and the
rhythm going and the differentinstruments and, oh my gosh, we
just work so well together.
Speaker 1 (42:26):
And I love how we set up opposite each other, so
people were really surrounded inthe sound and frequency.
So I really I love that yeahit's.
Speaker 2 (42:37):
It's going to be good .
I'm really excited this will beour second one.
We only do it like every coupleof months, so yeah, and we have
nothing on the schedule for thefuture.
Speaker 1 (42:48):
So I mean there will be, but we just don't know when.
It is Right, because summer,that's my time to like.
Speaker 2 (42:55):
I know I'm going to the beach outdoor.
We should do something outdoor.
Speaker 1 (42:58):
I know, I know we should like, because that's just
.
I mean, I teach in the morningand I teach at night, and in
between you will find me at thebeach, in the water, like I.
My body is so ready for it.
Speaker 2 (43:12):
Yes, like the other day it was like 72 down here.
Speaker 1 (43:15):
I was like it would be like a little chilly at the
beach, but this is a beach day,I know well, and I'll be right
down the street.
I know I can't wait.
I'm excited being by the beachis so.
It's so healing I mean anythingin nature really is.
But for, like, most of mytwenties, whether it was in
(43:38):
Florida or here, like Iliterally lived right on the
beach, right on the beach, yeah.
So it's amazing that I went toa landlocked state for four
years, because I I'm sure therewas a lot of learning to do
there.
There was, there was, and thedesert has like its own healing
medicine, and I feel like thatwas my time to really like go
(43:59):
into the spiritual cave and dothe deep inner work and now it's
like I've emerged, I've been, Iwent through like baptism by
fire, and now here we are.
Yeah, the ph, here we are.
Yeah, yes, phoenix rises.
Speaker 2 (44:16):
I think a lot of people are actually got the
Oracle card, the Phoenix risingthe other day.
Yep, I know I think a lot ofpeople are going through that,
and because it feels sochallenging or just like
limiting, or you know, noteveryone's going to feel like
this at once, but everyone hasfelt like this at some point,
where you feel like, oh my God,it's just like never ending.
(44:38):
And then all of a sudden, thechallenge lifts and it's like,
no, here was the, here was theway.
You just need to be patient.
Speaker 1 (44:47):
Yeah, I know, and that is so hard because it's
like you just want to, yeah,like oh, but I should just
meditate on it and it shouldjust be well and we're like told
that we're supposed to feelgood all the time.
Speaker 2 (44:59):
It's like huh, I think especially women, because
we feel like shit all the time.
We're like what do you mean?
We're supposed to feel good allthe time?
So there's this really likemessed up, like perception that
we have of what we're supposedto be.
We're supposed to be happy allthe time, we're supposed to be
um, like I don't know.
Speaker 1 (45:21):
It goes back to the toxic positivity and spiritual
bypassing, like the toxicpositivity and the positive
vibes.
Only that's just spiritualbypassing, and spiritual
bypassing is you're really justgaslighting yourself.
Speaker 2 (45:37):
If you try to bypass and you know what, you're only
holding yourself up becauseyou're prolonging your karma.
I was just talking to a clientabout this the other day.
I'm like I've had a recentlyand even like my own grandmother
and stuff like that aging andlike they're like, well, next
stop's death and stuff I'm like.
But you know, there's lifeafter death Like, like there's
(45:59):
reincarnation, like there's.
If you believe in any of that,not even so.
It is proven to us time and timeagain, every spring, every
winter, every fall, that deathand rebirth is constant and it's
happening.
We have these little deaths andlittle little rebirth, and I
wrote a blog post about this acouple of weeks ago.
But like we should becelebrating these things Like we
(46:21):
just fear like oh, that's it.
It goes back to that linearperception of time.
Like there's life after death.
But if you're spirituallybypassing, you're not allowing
yourself to move through yourkarma and actually learn.
And what do you want to do thatin the next life for?
Why don't I just do it now?
Do it now, yeah.
Speaker 1 (46:44):
Oh, I love that.
Okay, so this is a perfectplace to wrap up.
Where can everyone find you ifthey want to sign up for
revitalize and all of that goodstuff?
Speaker 2 (46:54):
so my website is venusrisingricom and the
revitalize membership is rightin the.
Um, what's at the top?
What's it called?
The header, the menu, the menu?
You're asking the wrong person.
I'm like, I know.
I'm like I don't know what it'scalled.
Um, the my blog is there.
(47:14):
I have healing on demand, so Ihave recordings that you can
either rent or buy.
I have um different revitalizedepisodes for sale.
If you don't want them, sign upfor the membership.
Um, if you don't need weeklyand just what each session
delves into, there's a littledescription weekly and just what
each session delves into.
(47:35):
There's a little description.
I'm on Instagram.
I think it's Venus risingri.
Yeah, let me double check.
I know it's.
It's sickening.
It is sickening, yes, venusrisingri, and that's it.
And my office space is basedout of Coventry, rhode Island.
Speaker 1 (47:54):
Well, I love that and thank you for being here today
and sharing with us.
This was such a perfectconversation and it helped me
move through some things further, so thank you for that.
Speaker 2 (48:04):
Good good.
Speaker 1 (48:06):
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Until next time, stay curious,stay connected and remember the
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answers already lie within.
Welcome to the Nearly Enlightened Podcast, a high
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I'm your host, gianna Giarrusso, and I'm here to share tools,
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This podcast is all aboutexploring what it means to live
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, the truth is, the answersaren't outside of us, they're
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already within.
Let's dive in.
Today, I am joined by ourfriend, danielle.
Welcome back, danielle.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
I know so much to talk about.
I feel like it's been, likeit's been a long time, a couple
months since you've been on lastand it feels longer.
It does feel longer.
It actually might be like acouple weeks, but that's okay,
neither here nor there.
Um, we're just coming off ofthe scorpio full moon, and that
was a lot I literally haven'tfor the empath, I have not slept
(00:57):
in over a week, like it isactually kind of crazy.
It's been really messing with mysleep and I know that's kind of
like an indication like maybelike it's time for a parasite
cleanse, but that's like a storyfor another day, yeah, but yeah
, like we could go on about thatfor hours I know.
Cause you've been detoxing too.
So I mean it's a huge part ofespecially this full moon, I had
(01:20):
some like dormant stuff come upand I was like that's a scorpio
energy once and for all, yeahthat scorpio energy, yeah so,
but the like few sleeps that Idid get here and there, like I
had some intense dreams yes andyeah, it's just been.
I'm like ready to, I'm ready tomove past this energy a little
(01:42):
bit.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Yeah, it's been intense today's, like my first
day I'm feeling to move pastthis energy a little bit.
Yeah, it's been intense.
Today's, like my first day, I'mfeeling a little bit relieved
and over the weekend I was likecrippled, literally like
crippled to the core.
I was having such severestomach issues.
Yeah, I was like crippled byanxiety.
(02:02):
I think for empaths right nowis really challenging uh, energy
because we have Pluto inretrograde, which is challenging
or like, I guess notchallenging but bringing us into
a deeper sense of safety hereon earth.
And if you're not feeling safeon earth, wow, it's funny.
I was like cruising, and then Iwas like, oh shit, I'm not, like
(02:27):
I have a lot of my sense ofsafety wrapped up in like
freedom, but then my freedom iswrapped up in like a sense of
abandonment.
So there's like so many layersthat I think people are
experiencing that they are ableto like in my line of work and
in shamanic practice we call itlike the sacred spiral, where
(02:48):
you're on the same journey butyou're looking at it from a
different viewpoint.
So it feels like you're goingbackwards, but you're actually
not.
You're just in a differentspace, on the staircase and
you're at a higher level.
Yeah, you're at a higher level.
So I'm looking at these thingsand I'm noticing there's certain
ways that I'm like feeling thatI maybe would have, in a lower
(03:09):
consciousness, thought like, oh,it's anger, or it's like
somebody else like pushing itoff, but now it's like, okay,
these are all my emotions and my, my physical body needs to feel
them and ouch.
I know a lot of stuff going on.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
I know and you know it's.
It's funny you say that youlike get to a place where you're
like coasting and you're like,oh, I'm good.
I was like very much the sameand last week I had a lot of
anxiety and I had a full-blown Italked about it on the podcast,
I believe like last week, but Ihad a full, a full blown panic
attack while I was teaching.
Oh my God.
(03:46):
And that is so scary because,like, first of all, I felt like
I was going to pass out, like mylegs and arms went numb and I'm
like, yeah, you pass out inthis class If I go down, like
what, what is everyone going todo?
Like we're in the middle of ayoga class, like they're here to
unplug and like just have anhour.
(04:06):
And I'm like, oh, this is likejust what I need but, like I
felt like I was in the spiral,and then it was like a heated
power yoga class.
So I just brought everyone downto a seat and I was like, okay,
I was super transparent.
I was like I am in the middleof a full-blown panic attack
right now, like I'm trying topull it the fuck together and
like we're all going to sit hereand breathe for a minute.
(04:27):
And it was very helpful.
And it reminded me of like whyI got into this.
Like I have suffered withanxiety since I was 10.
The first time I had a panicattack I was like 10 years old,
so so young.
I was always searching for thetool to like alleviate this, and
so it was just a reminder oflike okay, lean on your tools.
(04:47):
Like you're going to getthrough it.
This is only temporary.
This, too, shall pass, and like, of course it did, and I'm
right.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
And in the middle of a, class and teaching where
you're wanting to like be theleader, but have to show that
you're just like everybody elseand that you have your own shit
too.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
It's like crippling it, you're just like everybody
else and that you have your ownshit too.
It's like crippling, it is andit's scary and I'm like, oh, all
I need is for somebody to belike this was you know, go to
the owner of the studio and belike this was a shitty class
because Gianna wasn't present,and like this whole thing
happened.
But, honestly, everyone wassuper supportive and like two
(05:25):
different people came up to meand they were like, oh my God, I
have been experiencing anxiety.
Like anxiety is something Ideal with.
Like thank you for just beingkeeping it real?
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Yeah, Well, I mean I think with a full moon too, like
I think we should like talkabout some parasitic energy,
because that's when parasitesare the most active and I'm
sorry, we all have them.
So most people are feelingextremely ungrounded physically,
like agitated and aggravatedand just like antsy.
And I don't know if you noticedthere was a shit ton of traffic
(05:51):
which people can start losingtheir shit over traffic, like if
you're not, not grounded andyou're being like your vessels
being driven by, you know know,like an entity, like a parasite
or someone else's energy, thenlike you're not going to feel
good and it it really can takeover.
(06:12):
So I mean I see that a lotduring the full moon, so I'm
like I mean it's intensive, Imean they're, they're beautiful
and I think, especially forwomen, because we are in the
same cycle as a moon, that wefeel it maybe a little bit more
intensely or a little more awareof it.
Yep, you know, I think thatthere's definitely men out there
(06:33):
who are aware of it too, but Ithink it's just more prominent,
naturally, within a female,because of our own 28-day cycle.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
Yeah, exactly.
It's funny, like the last, likeI would say, for like almost
the last year now I've been onlike my cycle has been pretty
synced up, where I am ovulatingwith the full moon and I'm
bleeding with a new moon.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Same.
Oh funny, it's been interesting.
It's an interesting dynamic.
You know when it, when itshifts and it changes and stuff,
and you kind of have to go withit.
Like you kind of tell where youare when it, when it shifts and
it changes and stuff, and youkind of have to go with it.
It's like you kind of tellwhere you are in life when, when
it, your cycle starts to shift.
But it's kind of exciting ifyou look at it through that that
lens.
But still it can be like alsofeel like a lot of pressure and
(07:18):
a lot of things like happening.
One thing that came up to withthis this full moon was, I
noticed I really wanted everyoneelse to do everything for me
and I was like this goes alongwith that sense of safety and
it's like it cannot come fromoutside of you, it cannot like
no one else can do anything tomake you feel secure, Like they
(07:38):
can do that, but it's just goingto mask and so finding that own
like your own inner sense ofsafety, and I found it helpful,
helpful to like get back to whatare your values, what are you
rooting into?
Another thing that we connectinto in shamanic practice is
Mother Earth.
Like you're grounded in MotherEarth, you're connected to
(08:00):
Father Sky or Father Son,whatever you want to call it,
because they're the divineparents.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Right.
And also like going, liketaking it even a step further,
like you can only be as groundedas you are spiritual and
spiritual as you are groundedRight.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
So you have to be the pillar you're in between.
Like you're bridging the gapbetween the spiritual world and
the physical world.
Like that is you and both arerunning through that channel
which is like your chakra system.
So that's calming to thenervous system, creating that
inner sense of safety.
I actually just saw on TikToksomeone posted what was like the
(08:39):
most life-changing thing thatyour therapist told you and
someone said my therapist toldme to that my nervous system was
a dragon and that it was hereto protect me at like fiercely.
And I was like, oh my God, thatlike makes sense with like the
whole dragon thing.
And it's so true.
(09:00):
Like you have to let yournervous system override and not
let your emotions override thenervous system and not let your
experience override the nervoussystem.
Like your nervous system has tobe solid and always
recalibrating in order to returnto that inner sense of peace,
that inner sense of safety.
I just like thought it was sucha good analogy.
I'm like I'm gonna call on ared dragon now to oh, I love
(09:23):
that work my nervous system.
This is just like going to be mynew thing.
I love whatever color dragonyou want.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
Um, I love that and you were talking about, so you
have this monthly.
Uh, actually it's weekly, isn'tit?
Speaker 2 (09:40):
So it's weekly, so it's a monthly um membership,
like a monthly subscription, butI have my weekly energy healing
and clearings called Revitalize.
So every week on Tuesday, 12 to1230, I go live on Google Meet
and if you can join, you join in, but if not, you get the replay
and your energy is being workedduring that time and I'm doing
(10:03):
the energy work and the healingand the clearing, the
transmission I would call it.
At the same time I'm guidingyou on a journey that spirit is
leading me to guide.
I never know what it's going tobe like.
I get in there and I'm like,okay, so what's it today?
And actually today, because it'sTuesday, was all about finding
(10:26):
safety here on earth and weactually went into the temple of
the heart, which was where Inoticed, like we were guided to
look at within the heart, at theemotions, the lower beliefs,
the fear that had crystallizedwithin the heart, really
(10:47):
paralyzing us from movingforward and moving into that
sense of freedom, that innersense of slow and being able to
be authentic, and the truth ofwho we are.
And then it like so beautifullyled into, like you were able to
open the door to your ownlittle temple and there was like
(11:08):
meeting your spirit council andmaybe it was like your people
in your community, maybe it waslike other beings.
There was a lot going on inthere and then it was like
Mother Earth rose to theoccasion in the center of that
and like just spilled out, likeso all of her, like tree roots
and the moss and the grass andthe rivers and stuff, were
flowing out and all through thebody and out into life, where
(11:31):
it's just like everything washeld in this solid foundation.
Because when we are unattachedor ungrounded, I should say
because we we strive fordetachment, but when we are
we're overly attached and notrooted into something meaningful
.
And there are some people whoare meant to just be here and be
(11:51):
like willy nilly, you know,free for all and good for them.
But most empaths and spiritualleaders are here to really root
into something meaningful andexpansive.
So there can be a real sense oflike hanging if you're stuck up
in the 5D and only connectingwith spirit guides and only
(12:15):
connecting with divine, going upinto that meditative state.
We have to go into the darkplaces too.
We have to go into theunderworld, which you know we
would be considered below, belowground, and that's where we can
remember that we're one withthe plants, the animals,
everything, but we still havethe warmth of the sun to shine
down on us.
Yeah, so yeah, it was intense,it was great, it was great it's.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
I feel like it's the time of year for it.
It's like we're like springcleaning physically, but also
like energetically, emotionally,and I feel like this is a
really um, like we always saythis in astrology, right, like
I'm rolling my eyes at myself,like this is a really powerful
time.
But there feels somethingdifferent about this May, like
(13:02):
it feels like there are liketimelines shifting.
We're like, yes, moving through, I don't know, it just feels
like.
It feels like somethingdifferent is really shifting.
It's.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
I think it's the linear perception is really um,
like falling away right now,because we're we're so used to
being like life is on thistimeline, like an arrow, like a
beginning, middle and an end,and then we're like learning
that things are um, cyclical,right, we're seeing a lot of the
same stuff come up and it goesback to that spiral I was
(13:39):
talking about.
Like it seems like we're goingbackwards and then we're on this
merry-go-round.
But if you open up that circleand it turns into a spiral, you
notice we're going backwards andthat we're on this
merry-go-round.
But if you open up that circleand it turns into a spiral, you
notice we're just looking at itfrom a new and wiser lens and a
different perspective of wherewe might have looked at in the
(13:59):
past.
And the illusion ofmanipulation and things like
that can come up veryprominently for people if
they're only in this linearmindset and they can feel like
they're taking a step back orthat they're too late or running
out of time, or like they're onthe hamster wheel, which I feel
like that often and I have toremind myself I mean we're all
(14:22):
still human often and I have toremind myself I mean we're all
still human but, like we've beenfed this concept of time that
you know, the ancient conceptsof time have just fallen away,
where, like you, can heal thepast and it can change what
you're seeing in the, in yourcurrent reality, and you can
(14:42):
also travel into the future andbring that wisdom back into the
present reality as well, so thatthey're all intertwined and
interconnected.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
So yes, I just think like that linear mindset is
(15:14):
really a start of the new yearand you feel that fire and that
like readiness to the newbeginning beginning.
Yes, you feel that readiness tojust like shed those layers and,
like you said, look at thingsthat come up through this new
perspective and, um, I'll getsuper candid here, and I don't
actually even think you knowthis, so this will be shocking
(15:34):
to you too, but for many of youwho have been listening to the
podcast, you know that in um 20I guess it was 2023.
I went through a breakup, um,after being with somebody for
almost four years and then, likewe literally went from living
together to not speaking and, um, there was like a lot of it was
(15:59):
like unresolved kind of notfeelings, but just like I've
talked about it on the podcast,like I felt a huge betrayal and
I felt like blindsided and itwas just like this, what the
fuck kind of thing?
And I spent all of 2024 andreally all of yeah, all of like
(16:22):
the back half of 2023 and all of2024, like really putting
myself back together and movingforward and and learning from
from what happened and coming toterms with the fact that like,
yes, I used to live with thisperson, I was with them for four
years and then, like strangersand out of nowhere, a couple of
(16:43):
weeks, I get the phone call thatI knew was going to happen.
Oh my God, two years later, twoyears later, and it's like okay
, if you're trying to clear yourconscience, like already, like
water under the bridge, like ah,right, right, like I can't even
put it to words and it was onlya four minute phone
(17:05):
conversation, but it was areminder of how far I've come,
and like I, I didn't need thatclosure.
Like the closure was the notspeaking.
The closure was how it allended.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
Um, so old.
You needed that closure, though, and it just goes to show that,
like, manifestation is real,and you were manifesting that
closure two years ago, yep, andnow it's like, now it's a divine
right time, and because youkind of let it completely go.
It's like when you losesomething.
Once you accept the fact thatyou lost something, you're like,
(17:43):
oh no, I found it.
It's like, when you losesomething, once you accept the
fact that you lost something,you're like, oh no, I found it.
It's like, once you let go andtrust that it's exactly the
right thing.
That's when you move into thenew beginning, right, and that's
exactly kind of what happenedto you.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
It only took two years, but it only took two
fucking years yes divine timingbaby and also like just a
reminder of being inrelationship, whether it's
romantic or friendship or fam,familial, like sometimes it's
not on your timeline or what youwant, or like how you think
(18:15):
things should be done, like thatother person has to go through
their experience too righteveryone has free will.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
You can like, sense that it's gonna happen, you can
want it to happen, but if thatperson does not have the will to
do it, you can't force that.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
You don't want to energetically, you don't want to
force that, and as somebodywho's like spiritual and I hate
using this word but like ahealer, it's hard because you
want to drag your partner along,and I would like especially
towards the end of ourrelationship.
And then, when it did end, itwas like no, listen to me, cause
(18:52):
I know what I'm talking about.
Like I know this is what'sgoing to happen, like we're
going to stop speaking, you'regoing to stay stuck in this
spiral and like, whatever thefuck you're doing, I'm going to
pick up the pieces and move on,and then you're going to get it
the fuck together when it's toolate.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
And that's exactly what happened yeah, well, and
that's a learning lesson forthem, right?
Yes, exactly it's just to showyou like it kind of shakes the
platform for you to like are youhappy where you are or is this
going to challenge you?
It's like it's your test.
The universe loves to like comeback and be like you said.
You're really done with this,so let's give you the final exam
(19:30):
.
And that's kind of like I thinkpeople harp on why did this
happen?
Why is this happening?
Blah, blah, blah.
But it's like sometimes, whenwe can just like view it from
the point of like oh, this iskind of funny, like yes, I still
, I still am in this place oflike it was the right thing.
I still have and hold thisbelief and this value and this
vision for myself and theuniverse is like, and this value
(19:52):
and this vision for myself andthe universe is like okay, now
we move on, something nextsomething new, but it has to
come up, otherwise we don't.
We can't challenge our beliefswithout having contrast.
And trust me, like I cannotstand the contrast just as much
as somebody else, but when youreally sink into the spiritual
aspect of it, it's like abeautiful thing.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
Yeah, but when?
Speaker 2 (20:10):
we have that physical reality, we're like we forget
that it's beautiful.
We're like, wow, the fact thatit's happening to me, all these
negative things are happening.
It's like, okay, well, we'rejust being challenged.
What's your value and what areyou rooting into and what
beliefs?
Otherwise, your subconscious isorchestrating your whole life
(20:31):
and if you have a subconsciousbelief or you have hidden
emotions that are driving thebus, that's when you know like
oh so, if you don't like yourouter reality, that's when we
can go in and start looking atwhat's subwired there and what
these like different layers ofare going on within you, within
your energy map.
And that's just like are goingon within you within your energy
(20:54):
map, and that's just likewhat's so cool about energy
which is scientifically proven?
But it's like not justspirituality.
It's like this is energy andit's it's so fascinating.
Yes, and this is just like theinfinite consciousness.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
This is what we're talking about in the deep, in
your practice challenge.
So, like you look at it througha yogic sphere or a spiritual
lens or whatever it like, itreflects each other.
So, like what we're talkingabout right now, like we're not
talking about it in the contextof like traditional yoga, so to
speak, but it the lessons andthe tools they really mimic one
(21:31):
another.
So like they knew what theywere doing 5000 years ago when
they created the yoga practice.
So it's funny, like just theconversation I just wrapped with
the like this is kind of whatwe're talking about is like
moving, like allowing yourselfto move through these things,
seeing what comes up, notletting the emotions or the
thoughts, like be the driver ofthe bus.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
Right, and I tell us I say this all the time because,
especially in this industry oflike, we're working in the
unseen realms like you and youless so like, but my, my work is
in the unseen realms.
I'm in the, the, the psyche ofmy clients and the people who
I'm working with Right, and I'mguiding their journey.
I'm in their journey, I'm inbetween worlds, I'm moving into
(22:15):
through different dimensionswhich was hard to conceptualize
as a human being.
With you, you have like theyoga and stuff.
But so what I often tell peopleis they're like oh, is this
like?
We always get that.
Oh, are you the witch doctor?
Are you that whatever?
Oh, are you the witch doctor?
(22:35):
Are you the whatever?
So I say it to people who are,like, really heavily religious.
I say it to people who areworking in corporate Everybody
whether you see a therapist, youare going to yoga, you're
getting energy work or you'regoing to church, whatever your
modality is, we all have thesame mission.
It's language.
(22:56):
Go with what language speaks toyou.
I mean, I work with a lot ofempaths because they're heavily
in the unseen realm, right,they're not sure like, they're
just absorbing emotions,thoughts, energies that are, you
know, through the people, theplaces, the things that they're
(23:17):
interacting with.
And it's hard to understandthat because they might not
understand the unseen world asmuch as I do and what I've
learned to navigate it, whereasyou, like, you're working more
with the physical body, and sothere we have so much of the
same information.
So there, we have so much ofthe same information.
It's all language.
What language are you speaking?
And that's what draws people tocertain quote unquote healers or
(23:42):
guides.
Let's call it a guide, becausethat's really what it is.
It's like you're guiding peopleto that inner peace.
You're guiding people to betheir own inner healer because,
at the end of the day, you'renot stretching for them, you're
not in the down dog position forthem.
They're getting to that placebecause you guided them through
the motions, through the visuals, to get there, but they found
(24:05):
that inner peace within and theygot themselves to the class.
So I always say that it's likeyou are the one healing yourself
, I'm just the guide, and whenwe bring you into this space and
you, you can obviously getthere because you did.
It might take anotherconnection, another person, to
connect that bridge that youknow, those, those plugs to plug
(24:28):
that in for you to be like hey,you know, do this plug in over
here, but same story over, it'sall the same.
Like you, you see it in thebible.
You see it like I know.
You know more about the biblethan I know anyone I know but
that's what catholic school doesat catholic school for 12 years
are say the same thingbasically I know, I know, you
(24:51):
know what's funny.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
I just um stumbled upon an instagram yesterday and
it was talking about the samething, about how we interpret
the bible and the quran and theold testament, the torah.
Um, we've kind of likedistorted the language a little
bit and, and what I said at thebeginning, you know, we, we say
(25:13):
in the spirit realm, like asabove, so below, but the actual
translation of that is actuallythat they're the same, they're
one in the same.
So I think that that is sointeresting and I love seeing
these links.
It's like choose your way ofgetting there, but like it's,
it's all just conduits and it'signiting that inner healer and
(25:35):
that's why nearly enlightenedwas born.
Because I could not stand beingon social media, like seeing
these like spiritual influencerspop up where it's like do this
program and I will, I will healyou.
It's like no, I will.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
I think it's illegal to say that I will give you.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
I will give you.
I'm pretty sure that mightconnect you to your body, mind
and spirit, Like I don't knowit's.
It's interesting but yeah, likenearly enlightened was born
because I couldn't stand beingpractitioners who were like
putting themselves up onpedestals and being like I am
(26:14):
the way.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
Right, I know, and it's so.
It's hard and you know whatit's like.
It's just hard.
Social media is like exhausting, but it's all perception right.
For me it feels extremelyoverwhelming.
I'd rather have someone else doit for me.
I don't post often because I'mlike I for me.
I'm like I have 10 people who Iinteract with.
I know they're going to watchmy stories.
I'm going to post in my stories.
(26:37):
They might say like that's badmarketing.
I really don't care.
The people who are going tofind me are going to find me,
but I also still feel guilt ifI'm not posting or you know, and
there's so much stigma andjudgment and I think we forget
that.
But we're really judgingourselves and we're judging
other people.
So that's what we're going to bemet with and we really forget
(27:00):
about that and it's hard.
It's really hard because it'sall in your reality.
And going back to differentreligions and how you're reading
the Quran or the Bible orwhatever it is, what's your
perception?
It's what you're reading,what's your interpretation of it
.
One person might have a reallypositive interpretation of it,
(27:20):
one person might not.
We can't all like the same thing, you know, but we're all
relating in some way and peopleare just like have fallen off.
It's like have some compassion,like have fallen off.
It's like have some compassionhat, like we all want the same
thing for the greater good, andthey focus on one person or one
thing that they don't like andharp on it.
(27:41):
And that's just what I've been,what I've been finding on
social media, and I'm like youknow what?
I can't?
I cannot deal with this.
I don't want to be and I willadmit like if I'm going on
social media, I'm I've not everposted on Tik TOK, I'm just a
scroller and I love to read thecomments because they're so
(28:02):
funny and like uplifting anddifferent platforms you like.
Maybe it's my perception ofInstagram, where I'm like I find
Instagram extremely boring attimes and then I find like the
comments are really mean.
I don't really use Facebook atall anymore.
But it's all perception, it'sfunny I have this idea in my
head that Instagram is boringand I don't like it.
(28:24):
So obviously I'm going to findmore relatable content, more fun
on TikTok, because I'm alsokind of hiding there, because
I'm not posting.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
Well, it's funny, like this challenge D and I keep
saying it's like, yes, we putit out there to be beneficial
and to bring value and to bringlight to these yogic practices
that kind of don't get theattention that they deserve in
the modern world.
But this challenge has reallyended up becoming for us and we
(28:57):
keep joking about this.
And showing up on social mediawas a huge part of it for me
because, like, I have an okayfollowing, like it's nothing
crazy, but I do have a lot ofengagement and um, it's, it's
building.
So I I think that was part ofmy panic attack was like
freaking out about putting beingvulnerable and putting this
(29:19):
stuff out there and like notbeing good with technology and
there is a little bit of acringe factor of like recording
yourself and being like, oh, mygod.
I sound like that.
I look that Like it's been achallenge to move through and
like I wouldn't be able to do itwithout D because, like
technology, it's funny becauseI'm sitting here doing my
(29:40):
podcasts that I record myselfand upload myself and do all the
show notes.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
You have that person who's telling you it's safe, go
ahead.
It looks good, you're doinggood Like.
Not only that, but she has beenlike validation and like
creating most of my my real.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
So like talk about, like having somebody do it for
you, like I'm a projector andlike I really need this team
effort and so like having thisteam effort has been so great
for me, right, yeah, and givenme so much courage like so much
more courage than I think that Iwould have had, and if anyone
(30:15):
goes and like looks back onthese reels, we've been posting
pretty much daily and we've beensharing some pretty vulnerable
things and absolutely.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
But it's like people are people want to hide right
now and that's kind of whatrevitalize was too is like what
is keeping you paralyzed and inhiding, like, which is
ultimately fear of beingauthentic and truthful to
yourself and your needs, andlike something or someone, some
trauma has boxed you intofeeling like, and social media
(30:49):
is kind of like a like you neverknow where your stuff's going,
you don't know how many peopleit's going to reach.
We've never really had thatoutreach before and because we's
like we, when we go to sleep atnight, like you're going out
(31:17):
and like infinite consciousness,so like where, where are you
going?
And I, that's, I think, veryscary for people and to be seen
by that much it feels safer whenyou do it in the dream world,
cause we're like okay, likemusical like or like in a
meditative state.
We know we can reach that, butit's difficult for people right
(31:40):
now to conceptualize and wraptheir head around that.
I mean myself included.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
It's been extremely difficult for me because, like,
putting some of these things outthere, it's like, oh, it goes
back to that judgment piece.
Because, like putting some ofthese things out there, it's
like, oh, it goes back to thatjudgment piece.
It's like, oh, people are goingto judge me, are people going
to think I'm appropriatingculture?
Because, like I'm not Indian orlike you know, whatever the
story is, that comes up.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
I feel it all the time.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
I have been moving through a lot of that I do want,
because I think at this point,modern yoga, we are
appropriating culture.
If we're just talking aboutasana, if we're just talking
about the physical practice,like I, I think that we are.
So this was like it wassomething I knew I needed to do.
(32:27):
Like, let's bring all eightlimbs to the forefront because,
first of all, they're greattools to have.
Like, even if you never stepfoot on your mat, even if you
never practice asana, knowingthese other tools is hugely
beneficial and will transformyour life, like I will.
I will put a guarantee stamp onthat, like I know it will.
(32:50):
That's why this practice hasbeen around for 5,000 years,
because it fucking works.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
Right, exactly, I say that about my work too, and I
like to call myself a shamanicpractitioner.
I don't like being called ashaman or, you know, say I'm a
shaman because, well, first ofall, it's wrapping your identity
up in what you do and second ofall, it's it's a way of life
for me, for sure, but I'mpracticing the tools and the
(33:15):
techniques that have been passedon to me and the beliefs and
the rituals and stuff like that.
So it's an honoring of theancient way.
We're bringing it into themodern world.
And I'm constantly having toask my spirit guides, like what
is this going to look like inthe modern world?
Because what you're showing me,or what I'm intuiting, is so
like ancient.
(33:36):
Like you, when you're thinkinglike we've got to have this big
bonfire and it's going to be outin the middle of like nowhere
and we have to, like you know,maybe people think like that
they're, they're having stuffhappen in like a TP or something
.
You know what I mean.
I'm like no, no, like I justbought myself an indoor solo
stove in case it's like rainingand I can't have an actual
(33:58):
bonfire.
I'm like here we get out thelittle solo stove.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
I love that.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
And then we do a little ritual.
You know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
I love that.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
There's so many things that, but I feel you on
the cultural appropriation I itmakes me feel like too like who
the fuck am I Like?
Cause people are reallystarting to want to learn now
and I'm starting to have a lotof like classes and things like
come through me through the lensof the medicine wheel and
through the lens of shamanicpractice and I'm happy to pass
(34:27):
it on.
But there's also that part ofme that's like what and I also
don't like criticism.
So that's a great combinationof not wanting to be judged and
criticism and who am I right?
But those are all layers.
Yeah, I mean beliefs that I'vehad to work through, that I'm
still working through.
It's all layered, layered,layered, and people just think,
(34:49):
oh, it's a.
We should be over this, weshould be done with this.
Like, why are we repeatinghistory?
It's like we're looking at itthrough a different lens.
We're looking at our life froma different perspective.
Now We've grown in some way,we're wiser, we're going to
notice something that had oncebeen hidden to us because either
the information wasn'tavailable, because we weren't
(35:11):
open to it, but now we're goingto understand a lot faster.
And we're going to understandfrom that higher perspective.
Right, because we're alwaysevolving and spiraling and
whether that's we're going backinward and then spiraling back
out, going back into the world,I always, when I'm directing
energy, I'm always like you wantto hone it in close to you
(35:32):
first.
You want that spiral to comeinward so that you can deeply
connect with yourself beforespiraling back out and sharing
yourself with the world.
So we got to make sure we'rereally clear.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
I mean as within, so without yes, and it's taking
that time to integrate.
Like we just D, and I justtalked about this.
It's like, well, that's whyShavasana is the most important
of the poses.
It's because, right, you thinkyou're just laying there, but
really it's a time to integrateall that you've learned in that
class or in that practice.
And if you don't allow thattime for integration, then your
(36:05):
body, your brain, it like hastrouble connecting the pieces
and catching up with one another.
But allowing that like nervoussystem reset, that that's that
sacred pause, right it'simperative in society where it's
like keep going keep going.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
I know go, go, go push through like if we're
resting for any reason.
We're like we're not being.
It's not even about beingproductive, it's like
uncomfortable or you're wastingtime and that's when people get
anxiety and that's when peopleare like I've been in.
I'm a manifester in human design, so I've been in like my
manifester rest mode.
Like nothing is, like no taskis completing, nothing is like
(36:45):
there's obstacles everywhere.
I'm like why the fuck can't Ijust like accept the fact that I
need to rest.
Once I reset my nervous systemand I got into that, okay, I was
actually after a revitalizedstate, because it always helps
me too Just like yoga helps youwhen you're doing it and I was
(37:05):
like, oh, okay, this is it.
Like I don't feel the need tolike reach for what's next,
what's next?
I actually picked up my bookand I was reading for like 20
minutes before we got on thiscall and I was like, okay, I'm
feeling it, I'm into this restand like now I feel like I'm
back on track and like acceptingof it.
I'm sure when I go home and I'min a house full of people who
(37:28):
are like doing 50 things at oncebecause they're not in their
rest period, I'm going to startfeeling weird again.
And that's when it's like no, no, no, no.
You need to have the awarenessto say, okay, it's okay, it's
safe for me to rest, even thoughall these people are moving
around me and it's the same thatgoes out and like that's just a
very um, like specific example.
(37:50):
Like if you live with otherpeople but you and I both live
with family, so like there'speople moving in in the house
all the time and different typesof people.
Same goes for outside in theworld.
If you're like getting in intoyour car and driving, like
there's all those differenttypes of people, like some
people are going to be in ahurry, some people are going to
be in rest mode, going reallyslow, and you might be in that
(38:10):
active state and really slow andyou might be in that active
state.
We just need to learn andaccept that everybody's on
different cycles and timelinesand like focus on your own
energy but have compassion forothers, and we lose sight of
that a lot.
Speaker 1 (38:27):
Yes, I know, I know, I.
It's like what I was talkingabout it.
It's like sometimes you justwant to like pull people up to
your level, but like yeah, youcan't, you have to let them go
through their own process andlike detach from that.
Speaker 2 (38:40):
Well, even in like the shamanic, through the
shamanic view is like we wouldcall that higher, that highest,
like level of knowledge eagle,where you're soaring with the
eagle and you can see everythingfor what it is and you can meet
challenge when it rises andrise above right.
But you can only get to thatplace if you are also wishing
(39:02):
that for others, that you arealso wishing the best for others
.
That's why when we I talk aboutmanifestation, when I'm talking
about making changes in yourown life, I'm talking about for
the highest good of all involved.
Right, and the highest good ofall involved is everyone on this
planet.
Because when you are setting anintention or that you're like
(39:25):
speaking a manifestation outinto the world, the whole
universe starts firing behindthe scenes, the whole world
starts moving Like I like tothink of it as like a movie,
when sometimes it's like theopening of a movie and you see
one person but like maybe it'san aerial view and the person's
in a market and then you can seelike a couple of streets over
(39:47):
the person they're gonna meetdown the line in the movie is in
like a house when the window islit up or something Like you
have to think of your life likethat, like things are moving and
shifting for you and and aroundyou.
But that means everything elsearound you, the people, places,
the things are shifting andmoving and if you can't grasp
that and you're thinking it'sall about you, then you're not
(40:10):
going to get to that levelbecause you're going to get
stuck in those limiting beliefs.
You're going to get stuck inthe, in the distrust.
You're going to reach thatlevel of trust for maybe a
couple of days and you're goingto be like I'm going to fall
back in my old ways Resentment,anger.
I can't coexist with people.
Speaker 1 (40:29):
For the projectors.
It's bitterness.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
Yes, I think mine's like anger or frustration or
something.
I think it's anger, nofrustration, I don't know.
I think a generator, because alot of my family um are
generators, except my two niecesare both projectors.
I'm like, oh my gosh, it's sofunny.
But um, I think a generator isfeel they need to feel satisfied
(40:55):
in order to, which is hard.
It's hard to find thatsatisfaction to be in like their
most.
Speaker 1 (41:03):
I need to feel at peace.
Speaker 2 (41:05):
That's my authenticity is feeling at peace
.
I'm like that tracks.
Speaker 1 (41:10):
I think for projectors, it's like feeling uh
being invited.
I think that's yes, beinginvited.
Yeah, I think for projectorsit's like feeling uh being
invited.
I think that's being invited.
Speaker 2 (41:16):
Well, I think that's like.
Well, manifestors are the end,like they have to inform people
um, and projectors they have towait to be invited.
I forget what it is, um thatyou want to be feeling.
I don't know.
I guess it doesn't matter, orit'll come to me, like at
midnight tonight.
Speaker 1 (41:35):
I know, as soon as we , as soon as we hit end exactly,
exactly, oh my gosh.
Speaker 2 (41:44):
So I was just thinking about how it's like
already May and we have oursound bath.
Speaker 1 (41:49):
I know this Friday.
Speaker 2 (41:52):
I'm so excited for it , though, so if any, Rhode
Islanders, new Englanders, arelistening.
Speaker 1 (41:58):
Before Friday, may 16th, we are hosting a sound
bath duet at Sway Yoga inCoventry at seven um, so come
and join us.
Speaker 2 (42:10):
It's so I love doing the duet because it's like
there's never a lapse in sound.
It's like there's always thatmovement and that flow and the
rhythm going and the differentinstruments and, oh my gosh, we
just work so well together.
Speaker 1 (42:26):
And I love how we set up opposite each other, so
people were really surrounded inthe sound and frequency.
So I really I love that yeahit's.
Speaker 2 (42:37):
It's going to be good .
I'm really excited this will beour second one.
We only do it like every coupleof months, so yeah, and we have
nothing on the schedule for thefuture.
Speaker 1 (42:48):
So I mean there will be, but we just don't know when.
It is Right, because summer,that's my time to like.
Speaker 2 (42:55):
I know I'm going to the beach outdoor.
We should do something outdoor.
Speaker 1 (42:58):
I know, I know we should like, because that's just
.
I mean, I teach in the morningand I teach at night, and in
between you will find me at thebeach, in the water, like I.
My body is so ready for it.
Speaker 2 (43:12):
Yes, like the other day it was like 72 down here.
Speaker 1 (43:15):
I was like it would be like a little chilly at the
beach, but this is a beach day,I know well, and I'll be right
down the street.
I know I can't wait.
I'm excited being by the beachis so.
It's so healing I mean anythingin nature really is.
But for, like, most of mytwenties, whether it was in
(43:38):
Florida or here, like Iliterally lived right on the
beach, right on the beach, yeah.
So it's amazing that I went toa landlocked state for four
years, because I I'm sure therewas a lot of learning to do
there.
There was, there was, and thedesert has like its own healing
medicine, and I feel like thatwas my time to really like go
(43:59):
into the spiritual cave and dothe deep inner work and now it's
like I've emerged, I've been, Iwent through like baptism by
fire, and now here we are.
Yeah, the ph, here we are.
Yeah, yes, phoenix rises.
Speaker 2 (44:16):
I think a lot of people are actually got the
Oracle card, the Phoenix risingthe other day.
Yep, I know I think a lot ofpeople are going through that,
and because it feels sochallenging or just like
limiting, or you know, noteveryone's going to feel like
this at once, but everyone hasfelt like this at some point,
where you feel like, oh my God,it's just like never ending.
(44:38):
And then all of a sudden, thechallenge lifts and it's like,
no, here was the, here was theway.
You just need to be patient.
Speaker 1 (44:47):
Yeah, I know, and that is so hard because it's
like you just want to, yeah,like oh, but I should just
meditate on it and it shouldjust be well and we're like told
that we're supposed to feelgood all the time.
Speaker 2 (44:59):
It's like huh, I think especially women, because
we feel like shit all the time.
We're like what do you mean?
We're supposed to feel good allthe time?
So there's this really likemessed up, like perception that
we have of what we're supposedto be.
We're supposed to be happy allthe time, we're supposed to be
um, like I don't know.
Speaker 1 (45:21):
It goes back to the toxic positivity and spiritual
bypassing, like the toxicpositivity and the positive
vibes.
Only that's just spiritualbypassing, and spiritual
bypassing is you're really justgaslighting yourself.
Speaker 2 (45:37):
If you try to bypass and you know what, you're only
holding yourself up becauseyou're prolonging your karma.
I was just talking to a clientabout this the other day.
I'm like I've had a recentlyand even like my own grandmother
and stuff like that aging andlike they're like, well, next
stop's death and stuff I'm like.
But you know, there's lifeafter death Like, like there's
(45:59):
reincarnation, like there's.
If you believe in any of that,not even so.
It is proven to us time and timeagain, every spring, every
winter, every fall, that deathand rebirth is constant and it's
happening.
We have these little deaths andlittle little rebirth, and I
wrote a blog post about this acouple of weeks ago.
But like we should becelebrating these things Like we
(46:21):
just fear like oh, that's it.
It goes back to that linearperception of time.
Like there's life after death.
But if you're spirituallybypassing, you're not allowing
yourself to move through yourkarma and actually learn.
And what do you want to do thatin the next life for?
Why don't I just do it now?
Do it now, yeah.
Speaker 1 (46:44):
Oh, I love that.
Okay, so this is a perfectplace to wrap up.
Where can everyone find you ifthey want to sign up for
revitalize and all of that goodstuff?
Speaker 2 (46:54):
so my website is venusrisingricom and the
revitalize membership is rightin the.
Um, what's at the top?
What's it called?
The header, the menu, the menu?
You're asking the wrong person.
I'm like, I know.
I'm like I don't know what it'scalled.
Um, the my blog is there.
(47:14):
I have healing on demand, so Ihave recordings that you can
either rent or buy.
I have um different revitalizedepisodes for sale.
If you don't want them, sign upfor the membership.
Um, if you don't need weeklyand just what each session
delves into, there's a littledescription weekly and just what
each session delves into.
(47:35):
There's a little description.
I'm on Instagram.
I think it's Venus risingri.
Yeah, let me double check.
I know it's.
It's sickening.
It is sickening, yes, venusrisingri, and that's it.
And my office space is basedout of Coventry, rhode Island.
Speaker 1 (47:54):
Well, I love that and thank you for being here today
and sharing with us.
This was such a perfectconversation and it helped me
move through some things further, so thank you for that.
Speaker 2 (48:04):
Good good.
Speaker 1 (48:06):
Thank you all so much for tuning into today's episode
of the Nearly Enlightenedpodcast.
If this conversation resonatedwith you, I'd love for you to
share it, leave a review orreach out and let me know your
thoughts.
And if you're looking for moreways to deepen your connection
to body, mind and spirit, checkout my Meditate to Elevate
guided meditation portal orvisit nearlyenlightenedcom for
more resources.
Until next time, stay curious,stay connected and remember the
(48:29):
answers already lie within.
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