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February 11, 2025 76 mins

Bryce Zabel and Ross Coulthart return to discuss major UAP developments, whistleblower revelations, and shifting government narratives. Bryce shares his recent wildfire evacuation experience, drawing parallels to the unpredictable nature of disclosure. Ross delves into whistleblower Jake Barber’s claims and the risks involved in exposing classified UAP recovery programs, as well as Congress’s growing involvement in the issue.


The conversation also touches on political figures like Tulsi Gabbard and Marco Rubio, media failures in holding the government accountable, and new documentaries such as Age of Disclosure. Ross explores the Pentagon’s interest in psionic abilities and remote viewing, linking consciousness studies to UAP research.


Finally, they revisit the JFK assassination, arguing it was a CIA-led coup, and question whether full disclosure—on UAPs or historical conspiracies—will ever come. The episode highlights the growing momentum behind UAP transparency and the ongoing struggle to uncover hidden truths.

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