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March 26, 2024 45 mins

When life throws you a curveball, you improvise—just like we did when my nephew Jared Shoop, usually the man behind the curtain of 'Nerds On Tap,' took the hot seat for a riveting exchange that was anything but planned. The episode transmutes into an unexpected brew of laughter and trivia, as Jared conquers his camera shyness and reveals his face for the first time to our audience. Our spontaneous tête-à-tête journeys through his path to Digital Boardwalk, the thrill of producing our quirky podcast, and culminates in a beer trivia showdown that leaves us both a little wiser in the ways of hops and barley.

Memories are the bookmarks of our lives, and in this episode, we thumb through some personal chapters, from the hustle of meeting deadlines at Digital Boardwalk to the amusing tales of my technological awakening courtesy of a tech-savvy uncle. We share a toast to the past, recounting stories of family, a ballroom dance class that humbled me, and the shared adventures in Europe that brought us more than just souvenirs, but a deeper appreciation for cultural nuances and a good hamburger. Tune in for these heartfelt anecdotes and a crash course in beer lingo that might just make you the MVP of your next pub quiz night.

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Tim Shoop (00:00):
Nerds, nerds, nerds, nerds on tap.
Hey everyone, welcome toanother episode of Nerds On Tap.
I'm your host Tim Shoop, , andtoday we have a slight change of
plans and this will be ashorter show than normal.
Our originally scheduled guesthad a bit of trouble with their

(00:21):
connection all the way fromGermany, so we rescheduled that.
But fear not, we have a specialsurprise guest stepping in all
the way from down the hall.
We have Jared, my nephew, andthe controller at Digital
Boardwalk, Jared Shoop.
Welcome to the show, Jared.
Oh, hello everyone.
He's also the producer of NerdsOn Tap.

(00:44):
He's the guy that you never seehis face, so today we are
revealing his face and he lovesto be on camera.
Yeah, that's why he downed twobeers before he sat down in the
chair.
Anyway, I am his wonderfuluncle, tim, and he is so

(01:06):
passionate to be on Nerds On Taptoday.
Jared, you want to say a fewwords before we go ahead and get
started.
Just tell us a little bit aboutwhat puts you in the hot seat
today.

Jared Shoop (01:18):
Yes, I'm excited to be here.
Yeah, we had some trouble withthe guests, with the connection,
and he basically couldn't be on, so Tim then forced me to be a
guest today.

Tim Shoop (01:31):
Well, that's the spirit, Jared.
Sometimes the best momentshappen when we least expect them
, and I never thought we wouldget Jared in the hot seat.
But here he is, shirt and all.
Make sure you got your logogoing on.
So we're going to start offwith some wonderful beer trivia.

Jared Shoop (01:51):
Oh, okay.

Tim Shoop (01:52):
Yeah, I figured, before we go into a little bit
of my other questioning, Ifigured why not kick it off with
beer trivia?
Today's show is probably onlygoing to be a 30-minute show as
opposed to an hour and a half,because we really don't have
content but watch.
This is going to be the mostwatched show and the most
listened to show since welaunched Nerds On Tap.

(02:15):
Why?
Because that's how those thingshappen you get the surprise
star of Nerds coming out frombehind the camera to step in
front of it and all the fandomstarts to happen.

Jared Shoop (02:34):
Right, oh, yes.

Tim Shoop (02:40):
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Nerds On Tap.
I'm your host, tim Shoop, and Icouldn't be more excited to
embark on this nerdy adventurewith all of you.
So grab your favorite brew,because things are about to get
exciting.
Three, two, one go, so I gotfive beer questions for you.

(03:05):
Let's see if you can get fiveout of five, and if you do,
you'll get a hug from yourfavorite uncle no no, All right.
First question which country isknown for producing the famous
beer brand Heineken?

Jared Shoop (03:21):
Uh, netherlands, all right.

Tim Shoop (03:23):
Jared, you are one for one.
What style of beer originatedin the Czech Republic and is
known for its golden color andcrisp taste?
Pilsner you are two for two.
This is why he's our producer's.
Ladies and gentlemen, this boyknows beer.
Question number three in whichcountry would you find the

(03:46):
Oktoberfest, the world's largestbeer festival?

Jared Shoop (03:49):
Oh my God, I don't know Germany.

Tim Shoop (03:56):
I used to live in Munich.
Did you know that?
Uh?

Jared Shoop (03:59):
I think so yeah.

Tim Shoop (04:00):
Didn't you you?

Jared Shoop (04:02):
have you ever been in Germany?
Uh, I spent my first two yearsOkay there, I was born there,
but I'm an American.
I don't remember.

Tim Shoop (04:11):
Where were you born?
Frankfurt, wiesbaden, wiesbaden, okay, and where was your?
Where was your grandmother from?
Oh, you just said that too.
Uh, oh, come on, you betterknow that, buddy Darmstadt.

Jared Shoop (04:23):
Yeah, I all right, it's all right.
They never, we never talk aboutit.

Tim Shoop (04:27):
Jared's on the spread .
Even the two beers didn'tloosen you up.
Come on man, this is me loose,this is what you get.
No, I've seen you loose, buddy.

Jared Shoop (04:35):
We're not going to go into that, just a little more
.

Tim Shoop (04:37):
All right.
So the next question, numberfour.
So he is three for three.
Ladies and gentlemen, what isthe main ingredient in
traditional Belgian lambic beer?

Jared Shoop (04:47):
Oh uh, lambic, I uh there's only a few ingredients.

Tim Shoop (04:52):
It's going to be well .
There's wheat, we got it.
He is four.
He is four.
All right, he is four for four.
Ladies and gentlemen, if youget five for five, we're going
to have to take a hug break.
I'm going to miss it, all right.
So five number five.
Don't get this wrong on purpose.
What American city is famousfor its craft beer scene, often

(05:19):
referred to as beer Vana?

Jared Shoop (05:25):
American.
Oh, come on, I have no idea.
It's Austin, it's uh break.
I don't know.
I don't know.
This is con here.

Tim Shoop (05:42):
I'll put it into a geographical perspective for you
.
It is in a beautiful PacificNorthwestern state where there's
been a lot of I don't knowPortland.

(06:03):
Yes, all right, now we're good,all right.
So he went four for five.
So no hug for you today, buddy,but I'll give you one after the
show, just to be a good uncle.
There he did awfully well.
So, jared, let's jump intosegment one and we're going to

(06:24):
dart through these segments,ladies and gentlemen, and
hopefully you're as entertainedas I am.
So I think the listeners alwayshave wanted to know who that
mysterious fellow is behind thescenes that never shows his face
.
Now that we know and we can see, you tell us a little bit about

(06:44):
your journey just in just acouple minutes.
Just share with us how youended up at digital boardwalk
and what brought you here.
Where were you before this andwhat were you doing, and how did
you find your way, other thanme being your uncle, how did you

(07:09):
find your way to digitalboardwalk?

Jared Shoop (07:11):
I don't.
That's a tough one there, Iguess.
Basically I don't want toanswer that.
So if we go back, I wasbartending waiting tables put my
wife through college.
Once she graduated college, Iwent back to college for a
little bit and then we had somekids and I was doing work on the

(07:35):
side.
I started working at NavyFederal and I was working at
Navy Federal and once we had ourfirst kid, financially it
didn't make sense for me to workwith my wife.
My wife's income versus usHiring a babysitter, eating out
more and everything we did thecalculations, it really wasn't
worth it.
So I stayed home for five yearswhen we had our second kid a

(07:56):
year later, and I stayed homeuntil they were grade school age
and it was about the time towork.
I worked at Navy Federal for ayear before that, so I had a
little bit of financial stuffthere.
So did someone come calling?
Yeah, you basically yeah.

Tim Shoop (08:14):
And I literally had to talk you into it.

Jared Shoop (08:18):
Well, yeah, it worked out well because you
needed somebody that you couldtrust to do financial stuff for
you and I had a little bit of abackground and I was available
and I guess for me it worked outgreat because I also could take
a day off if I needed to orwork specifically.
I didn't have to have like anine to five.
If I needed time off, I couldtake the time to do the

(08:42):
parenting stuff.

Tim Shoop (08:43):
And that was literally almost 10 years ago,
the first time that we workedtogether.
You came on as a tech at myformer company.

Jared Shoop (08:53):
Oh, okay, yes.

Tim Shoop (08:54):
And you quit on me.
Yes, well, you quit on mebecause it was a whole different
dynamic in that company becauseof, well, a few things.
Right, you work in the counter.
It wasn't really your forte.
You wanted to really dig intonumbers and you really wanted to

(09:14):
do where your passion was andyou're good with numbers and
you're good with you knowfunneling numbers and
understanding the meaning ofnumbers, and they make sense to
you in a different way that theymight make sense to other
people.
So you're a good asset to me asfar as organizing spreadsheets
and laying out data in a waywhere we can make sense of it

(09:38):
and it helps us make financialdecisions.
But more so, let's fast forwardbecause that first job as a
tech, I knew that wasn't goingto probably pan out because of
what it was.
So you went away, you did yourthing and then you came back.
And you came back because yougot that random phone call from
me and out of the blue and thenI think it took me literally 45

(10:03):
minutes of negotiation to getyour ass over to digital
boardwalk right, I don'tremember exactly.

Jared Shoop (10:11):
Yeah, I guess, so I guess yeah.

Tim Shoop (10:14):
And that was a while back, and the rest is history,
and it all kind of worked outand now we are literally running
digital boardwalk smarter weband we have a real estate
investment business that we alsomanage.
So and then, of course, thispodcast, this lovely podcast
that you helped me produce theshow for.
So your role has expanded overthe years, but let's go back to

(10:39):
the core of that role and let'sreally dig in to what it is that
you do here.
So I know you get a realbenefit out of helping our
customers with their billing,you know, with anything billing
related.
So let's start with that,because that's a key part of
your role, correct?

Jared Shoop (10:59):
Yes, the billing is a lot of what I do and I really
, I guess I do enjoy when I canhelp a customer.
It's actually whenever acustomer appreciates what I've
done for them or helped them.
That actually is the best partof my job.

Tim Shoop (11:15):
So you get a real satisfaction from that, because
I know I do.
When I see smiles on ourcustomers and I see that
feedback that we get digitallyfrom customers on a daily basis
from our front line, it makes mesmile every single time.
Yeah, yeah.
So tell us what else you dohere.
I do a lot here.

Jared Shoop (11:35):
I do invoicing, I do purchasing, I do payroll, I
do some forecasting.
Obviously I do the QuickBooksand stuff.
But yeah, you know, I work withthe vendors.
I work with the customers to Iguess I don't know.

(11:56):
I work with the customers a lotto get them, you know, see what
they need, to try to get themon the right terms.
I work with vendors a lot.

Tim Shoop (12:08):
So what would you say , your favorite moment?
This is a big, this is a loadedquestion, and I'm sure our
viewers and our listeners wantto hear this, because I know
they hear from me a lot.
Now, I'm always talking aboutyou know the thrill I get from
being able to help thesebusinesses.

(12:28):
What was your moment?
When you said wow, I'm having agreat day because I was able to
do this.
Now I know you have a greatrelationship with all of our
partner, with a lot of ourpartners and our you laugh at
that I'm just trying to figureout where you're going.

Jared Shoop (12:52):
I'm just a little worried.

Tim Shoop (12:56):
Ladies and gentlemen, I apologize, jared's making me
laugh and I usually don't laughtoo much on the show, but no,
you have a great rapport with alot of our vendors and a lot of
our actually in a lot of ourcustomers.
They know they can go to youand get answers and I know you
work with our vendors to get thebest pricing and the best and

(13:19):
those things.
So is there a moment like amoment that stands out in the
history of your role at DigitalBoardwalk that really made you
feel great in your role?
Is it that time I yelled at you?

Jared Shoop (13:37):
Well, which time?

Tim Shoop (13:40):
I don't yell.
I don't yell.

Jared Shoop (13:42):
This is why I'm not going on to spot all those
questions and I don't know aspecific instance of, I mean, I
don't know, whenever you knowsomething, that's tough, you
know, I think sometimes when acustomer calls and they're like

(14:03):
oh, we need this and we needthis tomorrow, like 10 am and
I'm like, all right, that'severy week, yeah, and I got to
get it overnighted.
Get it to him.
It comes in and I get it.
You know I get everything done.
We get the project going.
It feels really good when itworks and it doesn't always work
because especially when COVIDhappened with that was another
one with COVID, with just beingable to get hardware.

(14:23):
That was that was actuallyreally difficult but also really
fun, trying to find it and getit and get it out there.

Tim Shoop (14:31):
Tell our listeners, tell our listeners what the
struggle was.
I mean, everybody knows we hadoh geez, supply chain problems
during COVID.

Jared Shoop (14:38):
Yeah you couldn't get anything.
You couldn't get routers, youcouldn't get switches, you could
get computers a little bit, butonly certain ones.
So when trying to fill yourcustomers' needs was super
difficult.
And I think that's where therelationship with our vendors
worked out well for me, becauseI had a really good relationship
with our two major distributorsand I was able to get things

(14:59):
that I feel other people weren'table to, just because I was
able to work the relationship.
But yeah, that was a struggle.

Tim Shoop (15:07):
Where you have an abalance pressure from the buyer
with the shopping experience.
So it was kind of like and Iknow what that can feel like
where you have that anxiety ofI've got to help him, like
yesterday.

Jared Shoop (15:21):
Well, yeah, and the other thing is people don't
understand what it takes to geta product out to them quickly.
And you know it's like theyalways say you can do maybe two
or three things, you can getthere quickly, you can do a
quality product, or what's it?
Quality, quickness, or what'sthe third shoot?

Tim Shoop (15:39):
I don't know.
Yeah, there's three.

Jared Shoop (15:41):
You're the specialist here we rely on this
Usually you can do two or threethings, but you can't do all
three, so it's tough.
It's tough, but with theshipping issues too.
You couldn't rely on FedEx toget you anything.
It was tough.

Tim Shoop (15:55):
So did you hand deliver it?

Jared Shoop (15:58):
Yeah, multiple times, a lot of times locally
right.

Tim Shoop (16:00):
You were jumping in the car.

Jared Shoop (16:01):
I drove out to Diffunit, which I drove out an
hour and a half to pick up aproduct at their location
because they kept saying it wason truck for delivery like three
days straight and it never wasdelivered.
I drove out there an hour and ahalf and then drove back and
went to the customer and handdelivered a computer that they
were waiting on.
It was, oh man, that was tough.

(16:24):
It was tough dealing with theshipping at the door in COVID.

Tim Shoop (16:28):
So when you were hired, did you know you would be
sitting here today, or a yearor two ago, filming a music
video?

Jared Shoop (16:38):
I tried to stay in the background.

Tim Shoop (16:41):
Oh, you're such a good dancer, Jared.

Jared Shoop (16:43):
Oh I have awful.

Tim Shoop (16:44):
You should go on dancing with the stars.
Now that you're on here, you'rea star, so you should take
those dancing skills and-.
My wife and I took a dancingclass.
Oh yeah, what was that?
We were younger.

Jared Shoop (16:55):
It was ballroom dancing and we took it and we
dropped out because we were sobad at it.
Oh man, it was awful.

Tim Shoop (17:03):
That's funny.
Today, ladies and gentlemen, bythe way, we are drinking the
HuffPrawl Original.
That's right, and this is oneof my tastiest beers for these
kind of segments and it's greatin a mug, and you're missing out
if you have not had this beer.
So forgive me for not startingthe show with a beer tasting,

(17:26):
because we had already beendrinking prior to this show, so-
.

Jared Shoop (17:31):
I took my one job of the podcast talking about the
beer.

Tim Shoop (17:35):
Because we don't have formatted content for this show
.
In questioning, we're gonnajump around today until our time
runs out, oh great.
And so we talked about yourrole at Digital Boardwalk.
We talked about the beer.
We talked about what led youhere.
Let's go way back, oh geez.

(17:57):
Let's go way back, ladies andgentlemen, and talk about
Jared's his inspiration for thetechnology industry as a little
kid and where that came from.

Jared Shoop (18:14):
I don't know if we should talk about that.

Tim Shoop (18:16):
Hey, we can talk about anything on this show.
Oh, so, jared, didn't you?
So you guys, you lived abouttwo hours away, two and a half
hours away.
Yeah, and just to preface this,ladies and gentlemen, I am
Jared's uncle.
I have and I lost count after awhile, but I think I have like

(18:38):
13 nephews and nieces, or did welost one not that long ago,
jason?

Jared Shoop (18:45):
Oh yeah.

Tim Shoop (18:46):
Yeah.

Jared Shoop (18:47):
Well, he's older than me.
It's weird to-.

Tim Shoop (18:48):
Yeah Well, I hung out with him because he was closer
to my age.
You know, and I've gone throughall of them and you know, since
they're none of them liked meanymore, I figured maybe I'll
grab onto you.
No, I'm kidding, I'm kidding,no, but going way back, you guys
used to travel up to our homeon holidays and special weekends

(19:12):
and whatever.
And me being the nerd prior tothe tap, me just being the nerd
part, I had a computer when Iwas 13.
I ran a bulletin board systemand for many of you we talked
about that on a prior show, on aprior nerd show in here, about

(19:35):
how I ran a bulletin boardsystem out of my bedroom and my
parents' house and I wasbasically the internet for the
local community.
Before the internet existed itwas mostly computer hobbyists
and gamers from way back andpilots, because I was outside of
a army base Fort Rutger,alabama and you guys would come

(19:56):
visit and you would always gointo my room and I would kick
you out, but I would always findyou hovering around my computer
.
So I knew you were gonnagravitate towards technology the
same way my son Calebgravitates towards technology.
You guys have a lot ofsimilarities, and did.

(20:20):
I have some interesting thingson that computer as a
13-year-old.

Jared Shoop (20:28):
Yeah, well, I always tried to play games on
there.

Tim Shoop (20:31):
What was your favorite game on my computer as
a?
I was 13,.
How old were you?

Jared Shoop (20:39):
That can't be right .

Tim Shoop (20:43):
No, at the time I was probably a little older yeah
yeah.
I was probably 15 or 16.
Yeah, so we don't need to talkabout ages.
Just tell me what was yourfavorite game on that computer.

Jared Shoop (20:55):
I don't know what my favorite game is.

Tim Shoop (20:56):
Ladies and gentlemen, it was Strip Poker.

Jared Shoop (20:58):
That's that's.
That was on a differentcomputer.

Tim Shoop (21:01):
No, that was on that one.

Jared Shoop (21:02):
Oh well.

Tim Shoop (21:04):
Maybe it was a different one.

Jared Shoop (21:05):
Yeah, well, yeah, the Strip Poker.

Tim Shoop (21:08):
yeah, and it was, it was all eight bit, I think, or
something, and the pictures, andyou, you, basically, if you
want a round, a piece ofclothing just fell off and there
wasn't a whole lot to itbecause it was eight, eight bit
pixelated.

Jared Shoop (21:27):
But the first game was Kung Fu on your Atari
computer.
But then later, yeah, there wasthat game when I was a little
older and I never won.
I never.

Tim Shoop (21:42):
I think I got, I got down and I never got.
That's right.
I walked in there one time andyou did not.
No, I walked in one time and hewas sitting in his underwear.
Ladies and gentlemen, that isnot true.

Jared Shoop (21:53):
So that is not true .
You got your butt spanked.
There's, first of all, there'sno way you would have left your
computer just sitting there openfor anybody to use.

Tim Shoop (22:02):
Just yeah, what, what Really?

Jared Shoop (22:07):
Tributing to the uh .
What's the uh?

Tim Shoop (22:09):
that's the one Delinquency of a lot my yes.
So this is probably going to beour best episode.
I don't know about that.
So so you gravitated towardstechnology and that's, I think,

(22:30):
the most important part of this.
Was that your first, or wasthere something more local to
your home, maybe to friendshouse or at your school, that
really got you involved?

Jared Shoop (22:41):
Well, I would say that that was the first computer
that I actually was able to getmy hands on.
Uh, was the Atari computer youhad?

Tim Shoop (22:49):
Yeah, I had an Atari 800.
That was my first one, and thenI had a PC 25 megahertz.
Ladies and gentlemen, on the PC, the Atari 800 was a um, uh, 80
, 88.
Uh yeah, it was old school.
My third computer was a Pentium100.
So we fast forward a few yearsto the 100s came out, and then I

(23:12):
think I went to a 233 megahertz.
What are we on now?

Jared Shoop (23:17):
What is it?
Five, oh yeah.

Tim Shoop (23:19):
Yeah, oh yeah.

Jared Shoop (23:20):
Three.
Uh, the gigahertz isn't it's,it's yeah.

Tim Shoop (23:22):
It's not a level.

Jared Shoop (23:24):
But my, so I, your Atari computer was probably the
first one I ever was like oh, Iget to play on this, uh.
Uh, when I was in sixth grade,uh, in math class we had an
Apple II Is that sound right?
We had a green uh, had a diskdrive, had a keyboard, had a
monitor that was color, um, andwe used to get these magazines

(23:46):
in class.
That on the back of it therewould be basic and you type the
code in and play the game.
So I would finish math likewe'd go through math class.
I'd finish everything as fastas I could, run back to that
computer and try to type in allthe code so that I could play
the game before class ended.
And, uh, that was probably myfirst time really, uh, messing

(24:08):
with the computer.

Tim Shoop (24:10):
So you know I had a.
I used to go into monkey wards,montgomery wards, sears, jc,
penny, when I would go shoppingwith my parents and they would
let me kind of wander around alittle bit but stay close and I

(24:31):
would always end up in thecomputer aisle and back then you
didn't have Best Buy and allthese things.
You had one little sectiondevoted to computers because the
market there was the demand inthe market wasn't there for it.
Yet this is pre PC in everyhome.
This is way pre.
This is in the uh 80s,specifically the early to mid

(24:53):
80s, and I used to go in and I'dfind a TRS 80, a Tandy TRS 80
or an Atari 800, a Commodore 64you'd usually see in there and I
would do the famous two line uhcode.
I would figure out how theyhave the machine locked, because
the salespeople would lock themachine so kids couldn't do this

(25:16):
.
I would figure out how it waslocked, get it unlocked and then
I would put the two line codein.
And do you remember what thatwas?
So I think it was something likeprint open quote Tim Shoop is
the coolest kid in the world.
Close quote uh, line 20,.

(25:36):
Go to line 10, enter, run, andbasically I put that all over
the screen in an infinite loopand then I would lock the
computers and nobody couldchange it.
And then next time I would goto one of those places, I would
see if it was still on thescreen and if the salesperson
figured out how to unlock what Idid.
So yeah, I used to have fun asa kid.

Jared Shoop (26:01):
Yeah, I, uh, I didn't get to do that.
You didn't get to by the time Iwas getting.
You're a lot younger than me.
They were yeah, they had started, started to get.
But yeah, I would go in amockery ward.
I go in a Sears, I'd go overthe computers and look at them
and they'd have them locked down.
They'd have a salespersonnearby all the every time you go
up to one a salesman or awalkable what you'd like to do,

(26:22):
then they obviously they knew akid wasn't, they just wanted to
fool with it and they'd kind ofshoe you off.

Tim Shoop (26:27):
So who, outside of work, is your number one client
when it comes to computersupport?
Is his name?
Is his name Ronald?
No, outmarket takes three outof a bucket.
Okay, I figured it would.
I figured it would be your dad.

Jared Shoop (26:47):
No, it's not my dad , it's my aunts that lived down
the road from me.
The three hens the three hens.
I have three aunts.
They all live in myneighborhood.

Tim Shoop (26:55):
My sisters.

Jared Shoop (26:56):
And they have called me more than anybody for
computer sport.

Tim Shoop (27:01):
And you know what they do.
They'll call me and I'll go.
Jared lives on your street.
Call him, he knows what to doand Nancy will go.
Oh yeah, I'll call Jared.

Jared Shoop (27:12):
I moved into that neighborhood and then, one by
one, they all moved in there.

Tim Shoop (27:16):
Yeah, we had the option to move into that
neighborhood and we decided notto for all those reasons.
So we needed a little space.
But yeah, they'll call me andask me something and I'm busy
like all over the place and I'mlike you know what Call Jared?
He's right down the street.
He can be there in two seconds.

Jared Shoop (27:36):
Yeah, they used to call me all the time Not so much
anymore, but yeah, they used tocall me like monthly.
I'd have to go over there andbe like I don't know what your
problem is.

Tim Shoop (27:47):
You're welcome.
You're welcome, man.
You're welcome.
Yeah.
Yeah, are you glad that I?
It's called Jared, so let'sstep away from I love this
conversation and I love whereit's going and I think we have a
few little bit more time.
Let's step away from that.
And I downed it.

(28:09):
You want to get another one?

Jared Shoop (28:11):
There's only one left.

Tim Shoop (28:12):
You want to go get it .

Jared Shoop (28:13):
No.

Tim Shoop (28:14):
Okay, I think we should.

Jared Shoop (28:16):
You want me to go grab?

Tim Shoop (28:17):
it.
Well, I'm going to a hockeygame tonight to watch my dog
race across the ice.

Jared Shoop (28:22):
What.

Tim Shoop (28:23):
Oh yeah, it's funny.
We went to a hockey game andthis is totally off the subject,
ladies and gentlemen, but wewent to a hockey game a few
weeks ago and I forget what theycall it, but everybody brings
in the same similar breed of dog, and tonight it's small dogs,
it's the little.

Jared Shoop (28:39):
Oh, you're bringing a hank.

Tim Shoop (28:40):
Yeah, a hank.
And I told so anyway, oh, thisis the greatest thing in the
world Last time it was Doxonsand somebody releases them on
one side and you're on the otherside.
They have to race across theice and it is so funny to watch.
So my wife signed up hank, Itold her because he has a

(29:04):
problem with going after dogs hedoesn't know, and maybe you
know getting a little rough andnot not bad.
How rough can those little dogsbe?
I mean, they're Yorkies, ladiesand gentlemen, but he's not
rough.
But you've heard him, oh yeah.
So I told her I go.
So who's releasing them?
My daughter, Tori, is releasingthem and Kathleen's going to

(29:27):
receive him.
And I said, you know, I'm goingto be laughing so hard while
I'm up there eating my notchesand drinking my beer because I'm
not going down there, becausethat's going to be so
embarrassing when he, when shekept going, he's going to be the
fastest dog.
He is so fast, he's going to befast.
And I go yeah, he's going to befast to run to the dogs next to
him and bite them, or do whatdogs do.

(29:52):
What pee on the ice?

Jared Shoop (29:53):
Well, dad, but no, they tend to die.

Tim Shoop (29:57):
We haven't seen a deuce on the ice yet.
No, we want.
Oh, it's so fun.
You should go to the gametonight.
It's at the pilots game wealways go to one.
Go to the game tonight.
I already watched.
I already went this year, Nancyand Dottie, your, your, your
favorite ants, the three hens,the ones we were talking about,
and you know they, theyperiodically listen to the show.

(30:17):
Oh great, so they're going tocall you and go get down here
and fix my damn computer.

Jared Shoop (30:24):
I think they found somebody else.
They haven't called me thisyear, last year.

Tim Shoop (30:29):
I'm going to give you five more beer questions.
Oh great, we're going to take abreak from the tradition and
we're going to go into somequestions.
Which beer style originated inthe city of Cologne, Germany,
known for its pale color andcrisp taste?

Jared Shoop (30:43):
The Kosh.

Tim Shoop (30:46):
Do that right away.

Jared Shoop (30:47):
We went on a trip to Germany on our 20th my wife
and I's 20th anniversary and wedid a cruise down the Rhine and
it's so wonderful.
Cologne.
Cologne was one of the stopsand we stopped there and we had
lunch at one of the places andyou sit down and they just bring
us beers.

(31:08):
They even ask, which is fineCause, I wonder one.
And we were ordering our dinnerand they had a sausage plate on
the side and they had thequarter or the half, and I was
thinking quarter pound, halfpound, but it was actually
kilogram, which is a lot bigger.

(31:28):
Anyway, I said I'll take thequarter and the waiter, he
looked at me and said oh, youwant the women's or the men's.
And I was like I'll take thewomen's.

Tim Shoop (31:39):
But yeah, come on, man.
That is sexist.
Right there, man, come on.

Jared Shoop (31:47):
That's a waiter.
Did he really say that?
Oh yeah, he was messing with me.
I could tell right away he wastrying to.

Tim Shoop (31:54):
So this isn't a Germany story, but this is a
France story.
I have a similar story, me andKathleen, a pre child.
We were in France, we were onthe last leg of our two week
trip, went across Germany and wehad a layover in Paris and we

(32:15):
were due to fly back the verynext day to come back to the
States, and I had spent twoweeks eating, oh man, sausage
and schnitzel and Austrian ribs.
Oh my God, let me just amazing.
Anyway, we ate so good overthere, but I remember being the

(32:37):
last day and all I was cravingwas a fricking cheeseburger.
So we're near the Eiffel Tower,we're in a little place there
on the corner, I forget the nameof it, but we're sitting there.
We ordered a beer, we'resitting there and he comes up
and we had the menu and it onlyhad like eight or nine
selections on it and one of themwas a steak and some other
stuff, and then there was ahamburger.

Jared Shoop (32:59):
Oh, I know this story and I went oh, a hamburger
.

Tim Shoop (33:02):
So I ordered a hamburger and he looks at me.
He goes you American?
And I go yes, how did you do?
He said, oh, the hamburger,it's the meat and the uh meat
and the uh cheese, the meat andthe cheese, no bun.
And I go no bun.
I go well, can you, can you putit on some bread?

(33:25):
Uh, bread will be fine.
And he goes no, no, no, no, it'sthe meat and the cheese.
And he said it just like that.
And he paused and I went okay.
And he goes the meat and thecheese, it's just the meat and
the cheese.
And I said okay, no, I don'tneed bread, just give me the

(33:46):
steak.
So we're done with him andwe're sitting there and we're
reminiscing over our Europeantrip, because we were heading
back the next day and we werehaving a great time sipping on a
good cold beer.
And I glanced over and he'sstanding in the doorway of the
kitchen with the chef and he'sstanding there like this the

(34:10):
meat and the cheese, and themeat and the cheese, and the
meat and the cheese.
And I went oh, my God, he istalking about me and I will
never forget it and if I ever goback to that restaurant I'm
going to go.
It's the meat and the cheese.
And number two in brewing, whichterm refers to the process of

(34:33):
adding hops to the beer duringthe boiling stage to impart
bitterness and aroma.
Come on suds.
By the way, ladies andgentlemen, this is suds In
brewing, and you need to talkinto the microphone, which term
he's not used to being on thisside of the table.

Jared Shoop (34:52):
I don't like being on the side of the table.
Yeah, I think you do You're?
A star man.
That's the question.

Tim Shoop (34:57):
Look at you, you're a star.
He's brewing with stardom.

Jared Shoop (35:02):
Ladies and gentlemen, I don't know the
answer to this one.
I don't think.

Tim Shoop (35:05):
In brewing, which term refers to the process of
adding hops to the beer duringthe boiling stage to impart
bitterness and aroma.
I don't know.
So what do you put in beer?
No-transcript, you said weedearlier.
What else?
Okay, hops.

Jared Shoop (35:25):
Dry, yeah, dry hopping, dry hopping.
So oh boy.

Tim Shoop (35:33):
Hey, this show has gone off the rails.

Jared Shoop (35:36):
ladies and gentlemen, this is going to the
next one, which Dry?

Tim Shoop (35:40):
It's dry hopping, dry hopping, which Belgian beer
style is known for its highalcohol content and complex
flavors, often brewed byTrappist monks.
Oh, this is a.
It's kind of a tough one for me.
It's which Belgian beer styleis known for its high alcohol

(36:05):
content and complex flavors,often brewed by Trappist monks.
It's not like Abu Dhabi, it isAbbey Dubell.
Oh yeah, abbey Dubell, that's ahard one.
This next one's a lot easier.
Oh, okay, so far you have oneout of three.

Jared Shoop (36:28):
After the first one , round one was easy.
It's got to be easy, yeah.

Tim Shoop (36:32):
What is the world's oldest brewery still in
operation, dating back to theyear 1040 AD?
This is super easy.

Jared Shoop (36:40):
It is Oldest brewery, it's got to be some
monks.

Tim Shoop (36:47):
Weihenssteffen brewery in Bavaria, Germany.

Jared Shoop (36:51):
Oh, yeah, do you remember?
That one?
I do know that one.
I think they sell it at Aldi's,do they really?
Yes, they sell a four pack oftall boys at Aldi's.
But the oldest brewery in theUnited States, oldest American
brewery still producing isEngland, england.

Tim Shoop (37:11):
Yeah, I knew that one .
We had that in a prior episode.
Yeah, that's.
This beer style is fermented atwarmer temperatures, typically
between 60 and 75 degreesFahrenheit, resulting in fruity
and spicy flavors.
This is easy Fruity and spicy.

Jared Shoop (37:28):
So it's not I-Bit.

Tim Shoop (37:31):
No, and it's obvious because it would talk about
Hoppy.
So this is fruity and spicy andthere's only a few kind of beer
choices.
Would it be a sour?
Well, it's one of mine.
I get headaches from IPAs.
Remember, I told you in a priorepisode I switched to Pilsner's
and Lager Ales, Lager's andAles, oh, is it an ale yeah,

(37:55):
it's an.

Jared Shoop (37:55):
ale I don't know man, I like drinking it.
I don't do the research, exceptfor the beers we get.
I research those.

Tim Shoop (38:02):
All right.
Well, I'm going to give you acouple more.
Oh great, Since you missed allof those.

Jared Shoop (38:07):
I didn't miss all of them.

Tim Shoop (38:09):
I got one of them.
I was getting a trim used todescribe a beer that is
intentionally aged for anextended period under controlled
conditions, often resulting inenhanced flavors and
complexities.
Oh, think about it when youmake.
For instance, let's go toBourbon.

Jared Shoop (38:29):
Oh yeah.

Tim Shoop (38:30):
Okay.
Or wine what makes a wine whensomebody says, oh, I have this
wine.
What makes it so expensive?
What makes a bourbon?
Well, the bourbon is the aging.
It's the aging, okay.
And what are they aged?

Jared Shoop (38:49):
in and bourbon, oh barrels, there you go.

Tim Shoop (38:52):
Barrel aging.
I don't see I can get you tothe answer, Jared.
Uh, which country is creditedwith the invention of the
popular beer style known asIndia Pale Ale or an IPA?

Jared Shoop (39:09):
I would think.
I would think India, but Idon't know.

Tim Shoop (39:15):
You know a good IPA would go great with some fish
and chips.

Jared Shoop (39:19):
Oh, it's England.

Tim Shoop (39:20):
Yeah, it is England.
Oh wait, no, I didn't have that.

Jared Shoop (39:22):
They love their Indian.
The curry is basically aEnglish dish now.

Tim Shoop (39:28):
Okay, the curry.
Well, actually, in.

Jared Shoop (39:28):
Germany.
You get the curry worse, butcurry is like a.

Tim Shoop (39:32):
Something you might not know about my favorite
nephew here is that he is agreat curry.
He is that.
He is a great cook, great chef.
I know you don't like the termcook.
You like to be referred as chefJared or chef.

Jared Shoop (39:47):
Shea Gerald no.

Tim Shoop (39:49):
Shea sheepdog junior.
No, caleb is sheepdog.

Jared Shoop (39:54):
That's right.

Tim Shoop (39:55):
What are you, your sheepdog, want to be?

Jared Shoop (39:58):
I'm not, I'm just you All right, what's?

Tim Shoop (40:01):
What is the name of the process by which yeast
converts the sugars and maltinto alcohol and carbon dioxide
during fermentation?
Oh door.

Jared Shoop (40:14):
Oh, see now you can't, You're.

Tim Shoop (40:16):
you know who you remind me of?
Uh uh, somebody on family feudthat decides to ring the buzzer
before, uh, he finishes thequestion.
What is the name of the processby which yeast converts the
sugars and malt into alcohol andcarbon dioxide during
fermentation?
This is a really hard one, tobe honest with you.

(40:37):
It's, it's a yeah, that's theanswer.
Sacrification Well, I swear toGod.
Sacrification.
Saccharin or sacchar, what isthat?

Jared Shoop (40:54):
Well, I mean, I thought saccharin was fake sugar
.

Tim Shoop (40:56):
Yeah, sacrificing the I don't know Could be something
.
I need to look that one up.
You know we should know this onNerds on Tap E.
All right, what's the mainingredient?
This is easy in the traditionalGerman beer style known as
Hefeweisen.
You don't know that?
Wheat yeah, it is wheat.

Jared Shoop (41:19):
All you got to do is answer wheat to every
question.

Tim Shoop (41:24):
And which beer style is characterized this is so easy
, oh my God by its dark color,roasted malt flavors I'll take
my time so you can think aminute and often features notes
of chocolate or coffee.
It's a stout, it's a stout baby.
All right, ladies and gentlemen, I want you to give it up for

(41:49):
our favorite nephew, the newcontroller and producer of Nerds
on Tap, the guy behind the guy.
Behind the guy that makes melook great in front of the
camera while he sits behind thecamera and drinks beer where
he's most comfortable.
But today we put him in the hotseat and we did it for a reason

(42:12):
because Farouk, he'll be comingin an up, we're rescheduling to
get him in an upcoming episodeand we had a terrible connection
between here and where.
Was he in Hamburg?
He was in Hamburg, I think inGermany, and it was a terrible
connection.
So we we didn't want to put outa bad show, so I decided to

(42:34):
bring this, this character, onand get him in the game.
Ladies and gentlemen, jared, Iwant you to close the show oh
great.
By telling our audience andthanking them to join us for
this episode of Nerds on Tap andto and what they can expect
from the show with Faruk.

Jared Shoop (42:57):
So, alright, thanks for catching our show here,
downloading, watching whateverOur next show is with Faruk.
He is the future of caradvertising with CGI Innovations
.
I went on their website.
It's pretty amazing.
They basically what do they do?
They shoot the car and they putthe backgrounds in.
Yeah, they do a lot of coolstuff.

Tim Shoop (43:18):
A lot of cool stuff with CGI.

Jared Shoop (43:20):
It's pretty amazing .

Tim Shoop (43:21):
Thank you, ladies and gentlemen, for joining Nerds on
Tap.
We always are happy that youdecided to choose us for your
listening pleasure today, and Ihope you continue to enjoy the
nerdy love that we want tospread and tell your friends

(43:42):
about Nerds on Tap and get themto check us out and subscribe to
our show.
We're really trying to growthis show.
This is episode 14 and we arecruising right along.
Thanks, have a great day.
Alright, thanks, cheers myfellow Nerds and Beer lovers.
Stay tuned for more Nerds onTap.

(44:04):
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