Get ready to rock with Gabe Cook, Grant Hutchison and Martyn Goodwin-Sharman as they get their apologies in order at the Neutral Cider Hotel!
First off, it's a reunion of sorts, with tales of hot sauce, cocoa butter, ghost writers, Gabe’s Book and the reading ability of the Scottish! Grant is in the hotel and the gang is back together.
Then it's onto the news where Gabe’s got the facts and he’s talking rubbish. It’s GLINTCAP, and we’re celebrating friends of the show with Once Upon a Tree and previous guest Gidon of Original Sin. Then the nature of a certain live show comes up, have a guess as to who the salty one of the group is! Back onto helping friends of the show’s small side projects, with Biffy Clyro and Death Cab For Cutie both getting the Neutral Cider Helping Hand. Grant’s also got Cheggers in the house?
Then it’s onto our interview, this week, we’re welcoming one of the most important voices in US cider making. Growing up in the apple country of Western New York State and having tinkered with home fermentation, he got his big break working for Virtue Cider in Chicago more than a decade ago before becoming the Head Cider Maker at the USA’s largest producer. Famed for collaborations with many of the world’s best producers, including NCH regular, Tom Oliver, and for winning countless awards, today’s guest is a tireless advocate for cider and has been a board member of the American Cider Association since 2014. Checking into the hotel, it’s Ryan Burk from Angry Orchard!
The guys chat everything: Ryan’s retirement, spitting on shoes, cow sound effects, mistakes made, fermented weed, the hardcore scene, the greenest place on the planet, and what it takes to make Gold Rush It’s a chat the guys have been waiting to record, and just goes to prove how good a chat the live show would have been, not that we’re bitter or anything.
Finally, it's onto listener question
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Martyn loves to write about cider: CiderShit
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