no backup plan, no boyfriend, no idea what we’re doing (ft. lily grace)

back by popular demand (and because we missed each other), lily grace is on the pod for round two—and we’re talking about everything. from cancun tan fails and crashing an office party where a married guy hit on us 😬 to the not-so-glamorous parts of chasing your dreams 24/7.

we get real about what it’s like putting your career first when your friends are doing the whole college thing, how dating guys your own age is weird when you’ve basically been working with adults since you were 15, and why it’s still easier for us to write emails to music execs than text a guy back.

we also talk about having no backup plan and how scary, motivating, and meaningful that can be—especially when you’re doing it for something bigger than yourself.

if you’ve ever felt like your life doesn’t look like everyone else’s… same. and this episode is for you 💌