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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Blot Host Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Hello and welcome to New Heights Educational Group block talk
radio show. Today we're going to be talking about graduation
tips and helps for homeschools and charter school families. My
name is Kaden Behan, your host and a volunteer for
New Heights Educational Group. To access more information about New
Heights Educational Group, you can visit us at our website
(01:00):
at ww dot New Heights Education dot org, contact us
on the phone at four one nine seven eight six
zero two four seven, or email us at New Heights
Education at yahoo dot com. Here with me is Pamela Clark,
founder and director of New Heights Educational Group.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Hello, Pamla, Hello, how are you this weekend?
Speaker 2 (01:25):
I'm well, how are you good?
Speaker 3 (01:27):
Thank you?
Speaker 2 (01:29):
So today we're going to be talking about, as I said,
graduation chips and help and advice for families with children
that are homeschooled or charter school families. Homeschoolers and charter
school students and families may also be interested in the
New Heights Educational Groups graduation ceremonies. We offer a beautiful
(01:49):
ceremony with guest speakers. However, we cannot sign diplomas. We
only offer the ceremony. We do have graduation supplies in
our library that can borrow for a small fee. They
just have to be returned after the gatherings. So Pama,
I'll let you start off the conversation as to how
to prepare for graduation, since you've dealt with it the
(02:11):
most and have the most experienced with this.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Sure, thanks. This is a very difficult topic to cover
in half an hour or even an hour, so I
gave classes on this topic to the parents and other
interested adults. In These classes would be one to two
days long and four hours or more each, So this
(02:35):
is very difficult to cover all the topics needed. And
we're looking at the homeschool and the charter school families
because the public school kids obviously already have graduation ceremonies,
and the homeschoolers and charter school families usually don't have
that accessible to them. Our classes included help with preparing transcripts,
(02:59):
require GPA, high school courses, act SAT diploma with and
without honors, graduation supplies, honor societies, and much more, and
again very hard to cover all and a half an hour.
We're going to give it a shot. If someone does
(03:20):
need help, though they can always contact us directly for
information on classes or even one on one help with
these things. I'll turn it back over to you, yep.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Now we're going to talk about what courses are required
for graduation Specially this is especially important to consider for
homeschool and charter school families to make sure that you
get those credits in order to graduate and to progress
onto higher education. Required courses do depend on the state
in which you live. Some states satisfy the number of
(03:54):
credits to complete in various subject areas or the specific
courses that you have to take. Other states leave the
responsibility to determine required courses up to the homeschool parent.
It's best if first of you the HSLDA legal analysis
for your state when determining which courses to include in
(04:16):
your teen's high school program. The next step is to
determine the number and types of courses that provide your
teens with the skills and knowledge needed to meet their
post graduation goals. If your teen has a good idea
of the direction he or she will go after high school,
such as tech or trade school, employment for their education,
(04:36):
college or postgraduate degrees, or the military, it's your job
to choose courses that you feel will help better prepare
the child for the future that they choose, and it
will make it a bit easier for them in their
pursuits or whatever interest they have after high school. However,
your teen may have little or no idea of its
(05:00):
after graduation, so it may be helpful for him or
her to take a career interest, test, research various careers,
and possibly set up some job shadowing opportunities or internships.
Holthough most states do not require homeschoolers to comply with
public high school graduation requirements, sometimes find it helpful to
(05:20):
use them as a frame of reference or guidelines. You
needn't feel tied to these requirements, but if you like,
take what information you deem useful and incorporate it into
your plan. For example, many public schools require at least
one technology course to graduate. If knowledge and use and
computers will be beneficial to your team's future, it may
(05:41):
be advantageous to include such a course in his high
school plan. Public graduation requirements can be found on your
state's Department of Education website I'll settle For college bound students,
check the various college websites your team is interested in
applying to the high school credit requirements to school sets
(06:03):
as a mission standards.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
Yeah, and another thing recently, this happened to a youth
in our group that she got turned down by the
college of her choice, and that can be kind of devastating.
But then she was burned out because there's so much
work just applying and getting things together. And then she
(06:27):
was sort of burned out to even want to apply
to other colleges. But she has a lot of big
dream and so you know, there's other things that can
help the student. Don't just give up. You know, you
could even do college from home to some online courses,
(06:47):
but you know, sometimes they want to take a break too,
But I just don't give up. What types? Now we're
going to answer the question what types and how many
courses should my team completely? The number and types of
courses in your teen's high school program is up to you.
This may be freeing for some of you, why others
(07:08):
may wonder if it's really true. Customizing your teen's high
school courses to take into account their straints, interests, and
goals is a tremendous benefit of high school at home.
While most public and private schools usually offer three graduation
tracks with every student fitting into one of those tracks,
you can tailor a high school program to uniquely fits
(07:30):
your team. When building your teen's high school plans, start
by choosing the core academic courses your English, your math,
your science and history and foreign language. And I'll add
a little bit to that. Obviously, you need to complete
certain maths the criteria, especially for certain colleges, and you
(07:51):
want to find out what college your child's interested in
to do that, and your English and science and so forth.
But especially with history, you can tailor that's your child's interests.
So if they want to learn more about the world
or their local communities, the United States history, whatever era
(08:12):
of time, you can really tailor history. We had a
lot of fun doing that as home scholars, and it
was very rewarding. How many courses your team completes in
each category will depend on several factors. Is she a
or he a budding art writer, then pile on English courses.
(08:33):
Is he interested in engineering? It would be a good
idea to include as many math and science courses as
you can. Is your teen interested in starting a business?
Good communications skills, writing skills would be helpful. I would
suggest toastmasters. Is the communication aspect of it. You can
(08:58):
look them up Toastmasters International online. Does he or she
plan to run for political office someday? A civics course
is an advantage to this type of person. A future
lit inguias I'm saying it wrong. Thank you from learning
(09:18):
things would enjoy and benefit from any foreign language courses
and perhaps a World geography course. Once she decided on
the core courses, then the fund begins at electives to
your teen's high school plan that enable your team to
develop a new skill, broaden their interests very important, or
(09:40):
enjoy exploring areas connected to a future career. Electives that
have additional value should be considered. Still unsure what to choose,
find more information relating to electives and a back issue
of the news letter of benefits of electives and next
curricular activities. And that's on the Homeschool Legal Defense website
(10:06):
www dot HSLDA dot org. Homeschool Legal Defense also has
a guide for homeschooling through high school and it offers
samples for general high school plan for those going directly
into the workforce or military, a college prep plan and
rigorous college prep plan uses sample plans to note central
(10:29):
courses and other recommended courses that you want to consider.
We've also come up with thirty eight different subject areas
that's also on Homeschool Legal Defense, with links to a
sampling of suggestive curricula in each category. We hope it
provides a starting place to explore the many resources available.
And that's all from Homeschool Legal Defense. Typically, a general
(10:51):
high school plan includes twenty to twenty two credits, a
college prep plan includes twenty four to twenty eight credits,
and a regulars rigorous plan may include twenty six to
thirty credits. These numbers are merely suggestions, meant to give
you an idea of what is generally the norm. Many factors,
such as your teen's initiative, outside activities, and course options
(11:15):
will come into play when determining the number of credits
in your plan.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Now turning over to the high school diploma. The importance
of the high school diploma. What does the diploma mean?
Speaker 3 (11:28):
In general?
Speaker 2 (11:28):
A diploma is a certificate by which a person or
organization certifies that the person named on the diploma has
successfully completed a program of study. A high school diploma
certifies that a student has successfully completed a program of
secondary education. So now let's talk about how do you
get a diploma, especially for those who are homeschooled and
(11:53):
have to find a way to get a diplomas by themselves.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
Sure, where do you get one? There's many websites. We
have our favorites here at New Heights and we have
a list of those. People can call us directly for
information on that. There's so many choices out there and
it really depends. I mean they go from free to
(12:18):
sixty five dollars sometimes more. Yes, homeschoolers can get a
diploma too. We have a lot of information on where
you know to get those. Like I said, you can
make your own diploma, but I really do not suggest it.
I mean bear in mind that if a diploma looks
like it was prepared by an amateur, it will not
(12:42):
make a very good impression. When creating a diploma, include
a minimum of the following features. State that it is
a high school diploma. State that the name state the
name of the student, Include the wording that the student
finished the program of a secondary education that was required
of him entered the signature of the person who knows
(13:03):
the student finished the program, so that would be the
homeschool parent or parents at the date it was issued
and sign and hold on a second. The diploma attests
to the fact that the student finished his high school program,
and it should be signed by someone who exercised authority
over the student's high school program and who was verified
(13:26):
that the student successfully completed the program. In the case
of a homeschool student, the parent is generally the appropriate
person to sign. If a school is issuing a diploma,
a school official will sign it. Now, sometimes we get
the question can a parent sign a diploma diploma even
if he did not personally teach all the classes he
(13:48):
or she Yes. For a homeschool student, the parent designs
the student high school program. Only the parent knows that
the student truly accomplished what the parent were quiet. Even
if persons outside the family taught the student, the parent
will still know if the student accomplished what was required
in the class. Even if you purchase one of the
(14:10):
more expensive diplomas, your signature will still go on that.
Can more than one person sign the diploma? Yes, there
may be several people equally qualified to sign the diplomas,
such as both parents in the case of a homeschooler. Additionally,
other persons can sign the diploma as witnesses to verify
the fact that the diploma was issued. But this is
(14:33):
not essential. I know charter schools they do give diplomas,
and depending on how active the parent was, they usually
don't probably suggest or allow that the parent signs it.
But maybe that's not the case for all. I'm really
not too sure about that one personally, But.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
For now we're gonna talk about Let's see if what
happens if I was homeschooled in close association with the
private school, and some parents do have the option of
homeschooling in close association with private school. Under some circumstances,
the private school may issue diploma upon the students satisfying
all of its requirements. So the question is do you
(15:22):
need an accredited diploma? If so, how do I get one?
Some colleges and employers look down on a homeschool diploma.
They want it to be state certified. The quick answer
to the question of do I need an accredited diploma
is no. However, there are certain schools and organizations that
have received accreditation from an accrediting body and the diplomas
(15:45):
aren't considered to be accredited. In order to obtain an
accredited diploma, a student must complete graduation requirements from a school,
whether it be in correspondence or on campus, that is
accredited by a recognized accrediting organization. High schools are not
necessarily accredited, however, therefore the diplomas they issue would not
(16:06):
be accredited either. However, colleges and universities generally recognize these
public school diplomas as if they were issued by accredited organizations.
Even so, how does one get an accredited diploma? Again?
There are organizations for which, for fee, offer to give
homeschool students an accredited diploma upon completion of their program
(16:31):
that the credited organization provides for the student to complete
in what is the Homeschooler's laws hs l DA PAMELA,
they know school friends the other friends Association experience, Most
(16:54):
homeschool parents do not seek such an accredited diploma. Another
question many people have is can I obtain a high
school diploma without involving the local school district. The answer
is yes, you can. As indicated above, you can obtain
the commercialized diploma and fill out the information regarding our
schools your school incident name. Another question that some may have,
(17:18):
will the local public school issue a diplomat for my student.
The answer is no, even if you've followed every homeschool
While the public high school does not owe your child
a diploma, unfortunately, mostly they.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
Do have something to add that may be beneficial. Just
something popped into my head. If a homeschool student has
a disability or special needs, we as homeschoolers, we still
pay taxes. And let's say your child is going to
need an IEP, an individualized education plan for them to
(17:51):
go to college. They do have to get that before
graduating high school. And even if they've been homeschool all
their life and never step foot in a public school,
they can still call the public school and set up
an IP meeting, go with an advocate and set that up.
And that's at no cost to them at all. So
(18:12):
I would highly suggest if you have a child with
a disability that wants to go to college, that you
to take advantage of that, because once you graduate, you
can't go back.
Speaker 4 (18:21):
You can't do that.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
Sorry, go ahead, most students right. Another question people may have,
basically the question answering advice. Must the student comply with
state or school district requirements in order to receive the diploma?
Not necessarily, it is up to each parent to decide
what the student must do in order to receive a diploma.
(18:47):
While each state has slightly different requirements for graduation for
its public high schools, parents are not required to meet
in the same requirements that are imposed on public school students.
For example, you may hear that it are required for graduation,
but may not necessarily have to force your child to
complete twenty credits in order to graduate successfully. While public
(19:09):
schools may require students to complete these twenty credits credits
before being allowed to graduate, and may require that certain
subjects we've taken. Like I said, homeschool parents are under
no duty to imitate public schools or adopt their standards.
Her note that the Pennsylvania homeschool law describes graduation requirements,
but even though the students fulfillism, neither the school district
(19:32):
nor the state will issue a diploma to the students
The homeschoolers I always do this homeschool law A homeschool,
I say, as lda my memory deal encourages parents to
issue the diploma and take the position that the state
(19:55):
should recognize it since the student has met the states
prescribe requirements. Does one need to get a local public
schools approval before issuing a diploma. No, you, the parent,
are the authority that issues the diploma. Howor, in North Dakota,
the law states that the school district and approved non
(20:15):
public school or the North Dakota Division of Independent Study
may issue a diploma to a student completing graduation requirements
established by one of these entities or established by the
state for all public and non public schools. But these
entities are not required to issue a diploma. Most homeschooling
parents in North Dakota issue their own diplomas. So these
(20:36):
are just specific notes for different states to whomever is listening.
That may be different, for example, in Ohio than in
North Dakota. So we just wanted to add that information
to help.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
Serve all states, even though we're nonprofit. In Ohio.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Let's see, do I need to get oh? I said that? Sorry?
How do I get a diploma that is recognized by
the Armed Forces? The Armed Forces recognizes a parent issue
diploma if the student received it for completing a program
of education through high school at home. The military will
required of the student provides a transcript demonstrating completion of
(21:16):
high school to support the receipt of a high school diploma,
Should I skip the diploma and have my student take
a GED test instead? A GED test is a substitute
for diploma, but it's not a diploma. This person can
obtain a GED without ever having spent a day of
his or her life in high school. Many colleges and
(21:37):
employers would treat a GED about the same as say
would a diploma. However, if a student has a GED,
some colleges and employers may assume that the student did
not have what it takes to finish high school, making
it somewhat undesirable. If your student successfully completed the program
of secondary education, he deserves he or she deserves a
(21:58):
diploma to prove it. Both schools offer a diploma for homeschools.
A quick online search at Google asking for an online
high school diplomas for homeschoolers produced many possibilities for those
seeking one to provide diplomas for homeschool children. Diploma services
(22:21):
slash programs. Can I homeschool without them? How effective are that?
He certainly can homeschool effectively without using a diploma service
or correspondence program. None of these programs existed when homeschooling began, However,
even though the pioneers of the homeschool movement didn't have
any of these services or programs available to them. It
(22:43):
has been verified that their children have done very well
both academically and socially. Their children have been accepted into
colleges and universities based on homeschooling without any outside services
or programs. However, these diploma services and academic programs have
made records keep in record keeping easier and have given
those contemplating homeschooling through high school much more confidence. Should
(23:08):
I also prefer a transcript upon graduation? Yes, you should
prepare a formal statement listing each course your child took
in grades nine through twelve, the amount of credit earned
as decided by the parent, and the letter grade or
other evaluation earned, as also decided by the parents. If
a student may be headed for college, the transcript should
(23:29):
be in the format designed to be quickly and easily
understood by busy college administration's officials. College is very in
how many credits they want during students to have in
various subjects areas, so it's important to check fees upon
homeschooling or child to make sure that your child is
able to complete the requirements and also in some states,
(23:51):
such as Indiana, certain admissions requirements are set by the
state statue. Some employers also require high school transcripts along
with the high school diploma. Transcripts can be downloaded on
the hs lba's Homeschooling through High School website for further information.
These transcript questions and the information that we've provided thus far.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
After also suggest sorry, that's okay. I would also suggest
on the transcripts that since they are for grades nine
through twelve, that you start those in ninth grade and
conscioantly add to them, because if you wait till after
your student graduates, you're going to be pulling your hair
back to think of every course and how much I mean,
(24:38):
you know, you've got to keep track of hours, and
you just you want to start in in ninth grade
and you want to keep up on it all throughout
their high school experience.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
Definitely, so when planning for after high school, if your
child wants to continue on to high education and college,
some questions may arise, such as how difficult what is
it for homeschooler to gain admission to college? It's getting
easier as time progressive. Many colleges are now familiar with
homeschooling in general, and most of them have already admitted
(25:11):
homeschool students. Some colleges even have admissions officers who specifically
review homeschooled students' advocations. Record keeping is very important during
the high school years so that you can provide admissions
officers with an accurate account of the courses that your
child has completed in high school. Most colleges will still
require an SAYT or act's test scores for admissions. Many
(25:35):
helpful resources regarding college admissions are available as There are
also college prep materials on different various various websites. If
all you have to do is really type it into
good we'll find a lot of resources on how to prepare.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
Yeah, and along with that, you know they can just
you know, we'll provide information and we provide list of
sites where they can purchase their graduation needs from reputable
and affordable companies. These or companies that New Heights has
used in the past and never had a problem with.
And we help with every step of the planning and
fund and even offer fundraising to cover the gradual graduation ceremony.
(26:19):
And we have very nice ceremonies, very nice ceremonies. So
if someone needs help, they really should consider giving us
a call.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
Thank you, and so we're going to try to wrap
it up however, just to put it out there with
every show. New Heights, as Pama and I have said,
is a nonprofit organization and we're always welcome to new
members and to volunteers should they choose to help the organization.
Once again, you can find more information at ww dot
(26:54):
New Heights Education dot org and choose a volunteer or
be a tutor or even a member. If your family
is homeschooled or part of a charter school, you can
also contact us at New Heights Education at yahoo dot
com and through our phone number at four one nine
seven eight six zero two four seven. Next week's show
(27:15):
will be on a similar topic. It'll be April sixth.
It'll cover preparing for college scholarships in choosing a college.
So we hope to see you next show, and we
thank every one of our volunteers and members again for
listening to us and supporting us through our radio adventure.
(27:36):
And thank you Pamela too for also supervising and supporting
this radio show.
Speaker 3 (27:43):
Thank you, Thank you, Kate, have a wonderful weekend.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
You took.
Speaker 4 (28:24):
When I am die and toole my soul so weary,
when troubles come and my heart burden be.
Speaker 5 (28:41):
Then I am stayed and wait here inside bell till
you come and said, while with me, you raised me
up so I can stand on.
Speaker 6 (29:04):
Mom.
Speaker 5 (29:07):
You raised me hard to war come stormy.
Speaker 6 (29:13):
See I am strong when I am on your Showler,
raise me hard
Speaker 4 (29:28):
To horn can be
Blot Host Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Hello and welcome to New Heights Educational Group block talk
radio show. Today we're going to be talking about graduation
tips and helps for homeschools and charter school families. My
name is Kaden Behan, your host and a volunteer for
New Heights Educational Group. To access more information about New
Heights Educational Group, you can visit us at our website
(01:00):
at ww dot New Heights Education dot org, contact us
on the phone at four one nine seven eight six
zero two four seven, or email us at New Heights
Education at yahoo dot com. Here with me is Pamela Clark,
founder and director of New Heights Educational Group.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Hello, Pamla, Hello, how are you this weekend?
Speaker 2 (01:25):
I'm well, how are you good?
Speaker 3 (01:27):
Thank you?
Speaker 2 (01:29):
So today we're going to be talking about, as I said,
graduation chips and help and advice for families with children
that are homeschooled or charter school families. Homeschoolers and charter
school students and families may also be interested in the
New Heights Educational Groups graduation ceremonies. We offer a beautiful
(01:49):
ceremony with guest speakers. However, we cannot sign diplomas. We
only offer the ceremony. We do have graduation supplies in
our library that can borrow for a small fee. They
just have to be returned after the gatherings. So Pama,
I'll let you start off the conversation as to how
to prepare for graduation, since you've dealt with it the
(02:11):
most and have the most experienced with this.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Sure, thanks. This is a very difficult topic to cover
in half an hour or even an hour, so I
gave classes on this topic to the parents and other
interested adults. In These classes would be one to two
days long and four hours or more each, So this
(02:35):
is very difficult to cover all the topics needed. And
we're looking at the homeschool and the charter school families
because the public school kids obviously already have graduation ceremonies,
and the homeschoolers and charter school families usually don't have
that accessible to them. Our classes included help with preparing transcripts,
(02:59):
require GPA, high school courses, act SAT diploma with and
without honors, graduation supplies, honor societies, and much more, and
again very hard to cover all and a half an hour.
We're going to give it a shot. If someone does
(03:20):
need help, though they can always contact us directly for
information on classes or even one on one help with
these things. I'll turn it back over to you, yep.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Now we're going to talk about what courses are required
for graduation Specially this is especially important to consider for
homeschool and charter school families to make sure that you
get those credits in order to graduate and to progress
onto higher education. Required courses do depend on the state
in which you live. Some states satisfy the number of
(03:54):
credits to complete in various subject areas or the specific
courses that you have to take. Other states leave the
responsibility to determine required courses up to the homeschool parent.
It's best if first of you the HSLDA legal analysis
for your state when determining which courses to include in
(04:16):
your teen's high school program. The next step is to
determine the number and types of courses that provide your
teens with the skills and knowledge needed to meet their
post graduation goals. If your teen has a good idea
of the direction he or she will go after high school,
such as tech or trade school, employment for their education,
(04:36):
college or postgraduate degrees, or the military, it's your job
to choose courses that you feel will help better prepare
the child for the future that they choose, and it
will make it a bit easier for them in their
pursuits or whatever interest they have after high school. However,
your teen may have little or no idea of its
(05:00):
after graduation, so it may be helpful for him or
her to take a career interest, test, research various careers,
and possibly set up some job shadowing opportunities or internships.
Holthough most states do not require homeschoolers to comply with
public high school graduation requirements, sometimes find it helpful to
(05:20):
use them as a frame of reference or guidelines. You
needn't feel tied to these requirements, but if you like,
take what information you deem useful and incorporate it into
your plan. For example, many public schools require at least
one technology course to graduate. If knowledge and use and
computers will be beneficial to your team's future, it may
(05:41):
be advantageous to include such a course in his high
school plan. Public graduation requirements can be found on your
state's Department of Education website I'll settle For college bound students,
check the various college websites your team is interested in
applying to the high school credit requirements to school sets
(06:03):
as a mission standards.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
Yeah, and another thing recently, this happened to a youth
in our group that she got turned down by the
college of her choice, and that can be kind of devastating.
But then she was burned out because there's so much
work just applying and getting things together. And then she
(06:27):
was sort of burned out to even want to apply
to other colleges. But she has a lot of big
dream and so you know, there's other things that can
help the student. Don't just give up. You know, you
could even do college from home to some online courses,
(06:47):
but you know, sometimes they want to take a break too,
But I just don't give up. What types? Now we're
going to answer the question what types and how many
courses should my team completely? The number and types of
courses in your teen's high school program is up to you.
This may be freeing for some of you, why others
(07:08):
may wonder if it's really true. Customizing your teen's high
school courses to take into account their straints, interests, and
goals is a tremendous benefit of high school at home.
While most public and private schools usually offer three graduation
tracks with every student fitting into one of those tracks,
you can tailor a high school program to uniquely fits
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your team. When building your teen's high school plans, start
by choosing the core academic courses your English, your math,
your science and history and foreign language. And I'll add
a little bit to that. Obviously, you need to complete
certain maths the criteria, especially for certain colleges, and you
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want to find out what college your child's interested in
to do that, and your English and science and so forth.
But especially with history, you can tailor that's your child's interests.
So if they want to learn more about the world
or their local communities, the United States history, whatever era
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of time, you can really tailor history. We had a
lot of fun doing that as home scholars, and it
was very rewarding. How many courses your team completes in
each category will depend on several factors. Is she a
or he a budding art writer, then pile on English courses.
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Is he interested in engineering? It would be a good
idea to include as many math and science courses as
you can. Is your teen interested in starting a business?
Good communications skills, writing skills would be helpful. I would
suggest toastmasters. Is the communication aspect of it. You can
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look them up Toastmasters International online. Does he or she
plan to run for political office someday? A civics course
is an advantage to this type of person. A future
lit inguias I'm saying it wrong. Thank you from learning
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things would enjoy and benefit from any foreign language courses
and perhaps a World geography course. Once she decided on
the core courses, then the fund begins at electives to
your teen's high school plan that enable your team to
develop a new skill, broaden their interests very important, or
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enjoy exploring areas connected to a future career. Electives that
have additional value should be considered. Still unsure what to choose,
find more information relating to electives and a back issue
of the news letter of benefits of electives and next
curricular activities. And that's on the Homeschool Legal Defense website
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www dot HSLDA dot org. Homeschool Legal Defense also has
a guide for homeschooling through high school and it offers
samples for general high school plan for those going directly
into the workforce or military, a college prep plan and
rigorous college prep plan uses sample plans to note central
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courses and other recommended courses that you want to consider.
We've also come up with thirty eight different subject areas
that's also on Homeschool Legal Defense, with links to a
sampling of suggestive curricula in each category. We hope it
provides a starting place to explore the many resources available.
And that's all from Homeschool Legal Defense. Typically, a general
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high school plan includes twenty to twenty two credits, a
college prep plan includes twenty four to twenty eight credits,
and a regulars rigorous plan may include twenty six to
thirty credits. These numbers are merely suggestions, meant to give
you an idea of what is generally the norm. Many factors,
such as your teen's initiative, outside activities, and course options
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will come into play when determining the number of credits
in your plan.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Now turning over to the high school diploma. The importance
of the high school diploma. What does the diploma mean?
Speaker 3 (11:28):
In general?
Speaker 2 (11:28):
A diploma is a certificate by which a person or
organization certifies that the person named on the diploma has
successfully completed a program of study. A high school diploma
certifies that a student has successfully completed a program of
secondary education. So now let's talk about how do you
get a diploma, especially for those who are homeschooled and
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have to find a way to get a diplomas by themselves.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
Sure, where do you get one? There's many websites. We
have our favorites here at New Heights and we have
a list of those. People can call us directly for
information on that. There's so many choices out there and
it really depends. I mean they go from free to
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sixty five dollars sometimes more. Yes, homeschoolers can get a
diploma too. We have a lot of information on where
you know to get those. Like I said, you can
make your own diploma, but I really do not suggest it.
I mean bear in mind that if a diploma looks
like it was prepared by an amateur, it will not
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make a very good impression. When creating a diploma, include
a minimum of the following features. State that it is
a high school diploma. State that the name state the
name of the student, Include the wording that the student
finished the program of a secondary education that was required
of him entered the signature of the person who knows
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the student finished the program, so that would be the
homeschool parent or parents at the date it was issued
and sign and hold on a second. The diploma attests
to the fact that the student finished his high school program,
and it should be signed by someone who exercised authority
over the student's high school program and who was verified
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that the student successfully completed the program. In the case
of a homeschool student, the parent is generally the appropriate
person to sign. If a school is issuing a diploma,
a school official will sign it. Now, sometimes we get
the question can a parent sign a diploma diploma even
if he did not personally teach all the classes he
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or she Yes. For a homeschool student, the parent designs
the student high school program. Only the parent knows that
the student truly accomplished what the parent were quiet. Even
if persons outside the family taught the student, the parent
will still know if the student accomplished what was required
in the class. Even if you purchase one of the
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more expensive diplomas, your signature will still go on that.
Can more than one person sign the diploma? Yes, there
may be several people equally qualified to sign the diplomas,
such as both parents in the case of a homeschooler. Additionally,
other persons can sign the diploma as witnesses to verify
the fact that the diploma was issued. But this is
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not essential. I know charter schools they do give diplomas,
and depending on how active the parent was, they usually
don't probably suggest or allow that the parent signs it.
But maybe that's not the case for all. I'm really
not too sure about that one personally, But.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
For now we're gonna talk about Let's see if what
happens if I was homeschooled in close association with the
private school, and some parents do have the option of
homeschooling in close association with private school. Under some circumstances,
the private school may issue diploma upon the students satisfying
all of its requirements. So the question is do you
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need an accredited diploma? If so, how do I get one?
Some colleges and employers look down on a homeschool diploma.
They want it to be state certified. The quick answer
to the question of do I need an accredited diploma
is no. However, there are certain schools and organizations that
have received accreditation from an accrediting body and the diplomas
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aren't considered to be accredited. In order to obtain an
accredited diploma, a student must complete graduation requirements from a school,
whether it be in correspondence or on campus, that is
accredited by a recognized accrediting organization. High schools are not
necessarily accredited, however, therefore the diplomas they issue would not
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be accredited either. However, colleges and universities generally recognize these
public school diplomas as if they were issued by accredited organizations.
Even so, how does one get an accredited diploma? Again?
There are organizations for which, for fee, offer to give
homeschool students an accredited diploma upon completion of their program
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that the credited organization provides for the student to complete
in what is the Homeschooler's laws hs l DA PAMELA,
they know school friends the other friends Association experience, Most
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homeschool parents do not seek such an accredited diploma. Another
question many people have is can I obtain a high
school diploma without involving the local school district. The answer
is yes, you can. As indicated above, you can obtain
the commercialized diploma and fill out the information regarding our
schools your school incident name. Another question that some may have,
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will the local public school issue a diplomat for my student.
The answer is no, even if you've followed every homeschool
While the public high school does not owe your child
a diploma, unfortunately, mostly they.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
Do have something to add that may be beneficial. Just
something popped into my head. If a homeschool student has
a disability or special needs, we as homeschoolers, we still
pay taxes. And let's say your child is going to
need an IEP, an individualized education plan for them to
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go to college. They do have to get that before
graduating high school. And even if they've been homeschool all
their life and never step foot in a public school,
they can still call the public school and set up
an IP meeting, go with an advocate and set that up.
And that's at no cost to them at all. So
(18:12):
I would highly suggest if you have a child with
a disability that wants to go to college, that you
to take advantage of that, because once you graduate, you
can't go back.
Speaker 4 (18:21):
You can't do that.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
Sorry, go ahead, most students right. Another question people may have,
basically the question answering advice. Must the student comply with
state or school district requirements in order to receive the diploma?
Not necessarily, it is up to each parent to decide
what the student must do in order to receive a diploma.
(18:47):
While each state has slightly different requirements for graduation for
its public high schools, parents are not required to meet
in the same requirements that are imposed on public school students.
For example, you may hear that it are required for graduation,
but may not necessarily have to force your child to
complete twenty credits in order to graduate successfully. While public
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schools may require students to complete these twenty credits credits
before being allowed to graduate, and may require that certain
subjects we've taken. Like I said, homeschool parents are under
no duty to imitate public schools or adopt their standards.
Her note that the Pennsylvania homeschool law describes graduation requirements,
but even though the students fulfillism, neither the school district
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nor the state will issue a diploma to the students
The homeschoolers I always do this homeschool law A homeschool,
I say, as lda my memory deal encourages parents to
issue the diploma and take the position that the state
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should recognize it since the student has met the states
prescribe requirements. Does one need to get a local public
schools approval before issuing a diploma. No, you, the parent,
are the authority that issues the diploma. Howor, in North Dakota,
the law states that the school district and approved non
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public school or the North Dakota Division of Independent Study
may issue a diploma to a student completing graduation requirements
established by one of these entities or established by the
state for all public and non public schools. But these
entities are not required to issue a diploma. Most homeschooling
parents in North Dakota issue their own diplomas. So these
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are just specific notes for different states to whomever is listening.
That may be different, for example, in Ohio than in
North Dakota. So we just wanted to add that information
to help.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
Serve all states, even though we're nonprofit. In Ohio.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Let's see, do I need to get oh? I said that? Sorry?
How do I get a diploma that is recognized by
the Armed Forces? The Armed Forces recognizes a parent issue
diploma if the student received it for completing a program
of education through high school at home. The military will
required of the student provides a transcript demonstrating completion of
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high school to support the receipt of a high school diploma,
Should I skip the diploma and have my student take
a GED test instead? A GED test is a substitute
for diploma, but it's not a diploma. This person can
obtain a GED without ever having spent a day of
his or her life in high school. Many colleges and
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employers would treat a GED about the same as say
would a diploma. However, if a student has a GED,
some colleges and employers may assume that the student did
not have what it takes to finish high school, making
it somewhat undesirable. If your student successfully completed the program
of secondary education, he deserves he or she deserves a
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diploma to prove it. Both schools offer a diploma for homeschools.
A quick online search at Google asking for an online
high school diplomas for homeschoolers produced many possibilities for those
seeking one to provide diplomas for homeschool children. Diploma services
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slash programs. Can I homeschool without them? How effective are that?
He certainly can homeschool effectively without using a diploma service
or correspondence program. None of these programs existed when homeschooling began, However,
even though the pioneers of the homeschool movement didn't have
any of these services or programs available to them. It
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has been verified that their children have done very well
both academically and socially. Their children have been accepted into
colleges and universities based on homeschooling without any outside services
or programs. However, these diploma services and academic programs have
made records keep in record keeping easier and have given
those contemplating homeschooling through high school much more confidence. Should
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I also prefer a transcript upon graduation? Yes, you should
prepare a formal statement listing each course your child took
in grades nine through twelve, the amount of credit earned
as decided by the parent, and the letter grade or
other evaluation earned, as also decided by the parents. If
a student may be headed for college, the transcript should
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be in the format designed to be quickly and easily
understood by busy college administration's officials. College is very in
how many credits they want during students to have in
various subjects areas, so it's important to check fees upon
homeschooling or child to make sure that your child is
able to complete the requirements and also in some states,
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such as Indiana, certain admissions requirements are set by the
state statue. Some employers also require high school transcripts along
with the high school diploma. Transcripts can be downloaded on
the hs lba's Homeschooling through High School website for further information.
These transcript questions and the information that we've provided thus far.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
After also suggest sorry, that's okay. I would also suggest
on the transcripts that since they are for grades nine
through twelve, that you start those in ninth grade and
conscioantly add to them, because if you wait till after
your student graduates, you're going to be pulling your hair
back to think of every course and how much I mean,
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you know, you've got to keep track of hours, and
you just you want to start in in ninth grade
and you want to keep up on it all throughout
their high school experience.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
Definitely, so when planning for after high school, if your
child wants to continue on to high education and college,
some questions may arise, such as how difficult what is
it for homeschooler to gain admission to college? It's getting
easier as time progressive. Many colleges are now familiar with
homeschooling in general, and most of them have already admitted
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homeschool students. Some colleges even have admissions officers who specifically
review homeschooled students' advocations. Record keeping is very important during
the high school years so that you can provide admissions
officers with an accurate account of the courses that your
child has completed in high school. Most colleges will still
require an SAYT or act's test scores for admissions. Many
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helpful resources regarding college admissions are available as There are
also college prep materials on different various various websites. If
all you have to do is really type it into
good we'll find a lot of resources on how to prepare.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
Yeah, and along with that, you know they can just
you know, we'll provide information and we provide list of
sites where they can purchase their graduation needs from reputable
and affordable companies. These or companies that New Heights has
used in the past and never had a problem with.
And we help with every step of the planning and
fund and even offer fundraising to cover the gradual graduation ceremony.
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And we have very nice ceremonies, very nice ceremonies. So
if someone needs help, they really should consider giving us
a call.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
Thank you, and so we're going to try to wrap
it up however, just to put it out there with
every show. New Heights, as Pama and I have said,
is a nonprofit organization and we're always welcome to new
members and to volunteers should they choose to help the organization.
Once again, you can find more information at ww dot
(26:54):
New Heights Education dot org and choose a volunteer or
be a tutor or even a member. If your family
is homeschooled or part of a charter school, you can
also contact us at New Heights Education at yahoo dot
com and through our phone number at four one nine
seven eight six zero two four seven. Next week's show
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will be on a similar topic. It'll be April sixth.
It'll cover preparing for college scholarships in choosing a college.
So we hope to see you next show, and we
thank every one of our volunteers and members again for
listening to us and supporting us through our radio adventure.
(27:36):
And thank you Pamela too for also supervising and supporting
this radio show.
Speaker 3 (27:43):
Thank you, Thank you, Kate, have a wonderful weekend.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
You took.
Speaker 4 (28:24):
When I am die and toole my soul so weary,
when troubles come and my heart burden be.
Speaker 5 (28:41):
Then I am stayed and wait here inside bell till
you come and said, while with me, you raised me
up so I can stand on.
Speaker 6 (29:04):
Mom.
Speaker 5 (29:07):
You raised me hard to war come stormy.
Speaker 6 (29:13):
See I am strong when I am on your Showler,
raise me hard
Speaker 4 (29:28):
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