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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:44):
Hello and welcome to New Heights Educational Group podcast. My
name is Katin Bhan, your host and a volunteer from
New Heights Educational Group. If you want to learn more
about New Heights Educational Group, please feel free to visit
us at ww dot New Heights Education dot org, emailed
us at Noon Heights Education at yahoo dot com. We'll
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reach us at our phone number four one nine seven
eight six zero two four seven. Here with me is
Sander and director of New Heights Educational Group, Pamela Clark.
How are you today, Pamela fine, how are you very good?
Thank you Today we have a good topic. It's how
to prepare for and choose college and all the services
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that you'll need to make that decision. So, Pamela, would
you like to introduce the subject.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
Sure, we're going to discuss choosing a college. Scholarships and
other helps came across the website just recently. It was
called Guide to Online Schools dot com and that's guide
g U I D E T T O online O
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n l I n E and then School's s c
h O O l s dot com and it had
a wealth of information along with a list of colleges
and kind of what they offer. So I'd suggest that
website first and foremost, and then of course we offer
that information too, so you can always contact us if
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you need help and don't have time to search it
out yourself. The information I'm about the share came from
Northwest State Community College and it's our one of our
local colleges in Defiance area, and they wanted me to
share that if a child has a three point twenty
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five GPA, they are eligible for the Dean Scholarship where
they would get half off of the tuition. And if
they have a minimum of three point a three point
oh grade point average and they maintained that, or if
they have a three point two five grade point average
and have a twenty three on their ACT, they are
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eligible for a full presidential scholarship.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
And then.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
That's you know, for semesters ten hours work done per semester,
that's one of the requirements. And they are offering classes
at the Defiance Regional Medical Center and online now. So
that that was supplied about a year ago, but it's
still good and it's a good thing to know if
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you live in Definance area.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
And now we're just going to talk about a little
bit some things also having to do with preparing for college.
And what we're going to talk about now is the
class exams or the College Level Examination Program test. Website
and info are at our online at our website, but
you can also Google search it if you want. After
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homeschooling for eleven years, pama Oh, the founder of the test,
recently put together a website that contains lesson plans for
earning called credits using Club Examination Program. Again, all the
plans on which site is this? Actually this is on
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my site or the Club examination.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
Well, we have info on our site, but the CLEP site,
the CLIP site, that's where that information was taken from. Yeah,
it's like clip dot. College board dot org is their
actual website. So c l e P and then college
board dot org and they can get all kinds of
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information from that.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Okay, And again all the plans on the site are free.
And I just want to share this community, this information
with the homeschool community because these Cause Level Examination Program
tests offer opportunities to receive credits for certain subject areas.
I know that recently, when looking at opportunities for going
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to my college that I want to choose eventually, when
I choose the college that I'm going to, in order
to perhaps not take some of the classes that my
requirements that I would normally have to take in college,
I could test out and use one of the cous
Level Examination program tests instead. And it's also I know
Hima has recommended to me as well, because it can
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be a cheaper option than taking the test than taking
the class, so that it's also something consider as well.
You get essentially cheaper credits by testing. Most schools do
take the clap called the CLEP test. Over two thy
nine hundred do accept it. I know I recently checked
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to see if my school's accepted and did all of
them do. So it's a pretty common thing and it's
worth worth looking into if you're interested or if anyone's
interested and get credit for different subjects. Yeah, another thing
that we want to talk about. Should there be a
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focus on achieving a high school diploma before you head
to college or what about facing college recruiters. These concerns
drive some parents to plan hours and the necessary course
work that would hopefully lead to a diploma. Others choose
educational paths that attempt to satisfy the nagging doubts about
future college entrances. The clap again solves both these concerns
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for Pamela's family, in particular by allowing them to chart
an independent course that will ultimately show college recruiters that's
that Pamela's students are ready for the next step. So
Pama's going to talk a little bit more in detail
about what CLIP is more specifically and the specific tests
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and courses they offer.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
Sure, I went to the site now to just look
and see how much their test was because I didn't
remember off the top of my head. I'm not seeing
the price, but I'm thinking it's about I want to say,
sixty five dollars. That could be wrong, but I'm not
seeing the price right off. But it says that thirty
three CLEP exams are offered, and that they are administered
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at over seventeen hundred college test centers and on military basis.
Exams cover materials taught in courses that most people or
most students take as requirements in the first two years
of college. And I know that they have a complete
list on their site. I'm not going to go into
all that right now, but I know that psychology is
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one of them. Biology, just because of students within New
heights take in certain courses. I'm trying to think what else.
There's some other math courses that can be and which
you know, a lot of kids don't like to take
the math in college, so it's definitely something to look at.
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They also have some English courses.
Speaker 4 (08:07):
I know.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
So let's talk more about what is CLUP is the
college level examination program and is also known by terms
such as testing out or credit by examination. It's not
just for homeschoolers. Charter school and public school kids can
do it too. You simply put, you can use an
independent study to prepare for a specific college course and
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then go to a local college to take the computerized
multiple key alia sorry, to take the computerize multiple choice exam. Now,
we also we have certified teachers that have given these
exams in the past, so they haven't always had to
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go to the college. If you pass, you are issued
the credits as if you had taken the class at
the college you know yourself, and then KLEP exams can
be used to accumulate dual credits, showing credits that will
count toward high school requirements and at the same time
count towards a college degree. Shorten the years of study
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required to attain a college degree, and since you are
starting in the teen years, you save money and earning
a college degree as cleptic exams as much cheaper than
registering for a college class on campus. Show any brick
and mortar college that your child is capable of performing
at a college level, and you'll have the credits to
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prove it. Avoid basic skill classes. Avoid basic skills classes
when entering college. By clepping college math and freshman English
give you the chance to delve into the subject being
studied while moving at a comfortable pace for optim learning,
sharpening your child's independent study skills, which must in the
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college environment. Continue to share your worldview with your child
when studying controversial topics contained in the many social science classes.
Tackle tough subject once and then get the credit first
time around. Why do high school biology and then retake
it again for college credit?
Speaker 1 (10:20):
You know?
Speaker 3 (10:20):
Why do that? And another thing what I was going.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
To say was.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
It's sort of like the post secondary enrollment, which if
you're in a public or a charter school and not homeschooled,
you can use you know, state funds to go to
college for free in a sense, as long as you
pass your classes. You don't have to, you know, pay
for it. And they usually allow one or two classes
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per semester to be taken in high school and that's
completely covered. But regular homeschoolers, unless they're what's called at
eight school, which is really hard to get, you are
not allowed to participate in the post secondary. So this
is the next closest option to that, and not just
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for homeschoolers but for anybody. And so you might be thinking, well,
where do I start. A normal college course includes classroom
instruction followed by testing and then granting of credits through
free lessons on their on their site and at mc
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quacks two dot tripod dot com CLEP or it's like
then there's like a backslash c l E or clept
lesson sorry c l e P and then lesson plans
you can you'll be able to use your child's independent
study skills. You're placing the instructional phase of the college
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class process with the appropriate books and videos we've studied
as study skills that your child will prepare for the exam,
and the college board will issue them credits for passing
the tests. These credits can be banked with the college
Board and then transferred to the college of your choice
in the future. So, as I mentioned before about you know,
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most a lot of colleges in the United States are
accepting these. One reference they say had already said was
on their site and they said seventeen hundred. They're seventeen
hundred test centers. But there are twenty nine hundred schools
that actually accept the KLUB credits and the exams take
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about ninety minutes, are and are in a multiple choice format.
There are other widely accepted credit by examination programs as well,
such as DA n tees. It's important to check with
the low I'm sorry, with the colleges on your wish
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list to see how many credits they allow to be
transferred in from any other testing source. And something else
I always tell people is make sure that if you
decide you don't like the college, it's always good upfront
you say, not only can I transfer in credits and
how many? But can do you transfer credits to other
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school or other colleges in case you want to switch,
because if they don't then that can cause problems later. Yeah,
that would not be good. The colleges we have listed
are very credit by examination friendly. Some even allow you
to test out of your entire four year degree, which
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wouldn't that be nice? Remember too that colleges that have
enrollment requirements such as SAT scores and basic skills tests
often waive them when the students have already accumulated college credits.
And for more information about that, you can go to
college board dot com and look for their student testing area.
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And then for children that are ready to graduate high
school that are looking for information on scholarships that are available,
you can look you can check out that site, and
then we offer a wealth of information too, which I'll
speak about a little bit. But these are free to use,
and all scholarships are for real. Okay, yeah, and Kayden,
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you want to discuss the Ohio State Higher education agencies right.
Speaker 4 (14:36):
So?
Speaker 2 (14:38):
Higher education agencies offer a lot of information on state
education programs, colleges and universities as student aid assistants, programs, grants, scholarships,
continuing education programs, career opportunities, and some guarantee agencies. For
updated information or if you just want to check it out,
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the information that they have for specifically at Ohio and
the resources that you can find, you can search the
US Department of Education database at ww dot, student aid
dot gov and the laws relating to this, so you
can go when when looking for college. You can go
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to ww dot, going to college dot org, slash docs,
slash law chart dot pdf, and we'll give you all
the information you need to make sure that you you know,
are prepared for going onto further education. We also offer
information on mapping your future, information on financial strategies. Especially
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important when considering higher education is costs continue to rise,
career options, and college planning. We have an extensive list
of scholarships and colleges in our online databases. You can
can hire us to help you find both. However, it
is important to note that scholarships are difficult to earn
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a lot of the time. Students sometimes don't want to
spend the time filling out scholarships, especially when they know
when they don't win sometimes and it's easy to get
burned out. And I know from experience scouring the web
trying to find different scholarships, writing essays, and then a
lot of them don't even let you know when you
don't win. You know, so it can be difficult, but
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it is definitely still worth your time because even if
you can get one out of ten, maybe a couple
hundred dollars. It's still free money, and it's probably more
money than where I try to look at it is
probably more money than I would have ever made writing
an essay for school, and I do it all the time.
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So you know, if you're going to write an essay,
it's definitely for a good cause to do it for
your own financial wellbeing if you could possibly win a scholarship.
So it's important and it's important also with that to
be patient when doing this process. And we are also
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patient and willing to help these students with their essays, which,
by the way, can save each essay as strategies, and
sometimes we use them because a lot of scholarships will
sometimes have similar questions such as uh, similar to when
you apply to college, A lot of colleges have similar
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scene questions such as what was your greatest challenge that
you overcame? What is something that makes you a strong
candidate for the scholarship. So there's a lot of questions
that are relatively the same. So we offer ways in
which to help students strategize their scholarship search. That way
they don't get burned out as easily and Pamela has
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more on that.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
Yeah, that raises a good point, the essay part of it.
Because New Heights we have a lot of volunteers. And
I know a young girl that's graduating this year that's
part of our organizations. She's a student, she has she's
a very good writer, but she's not very good at
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proofreading her own works and not real good on the
punctuation part of it. And that's a very common thing.
So we offer many different proofreaders. We don't help them,
you know, we don't help them cheat or anything on
their essay, but we do offer a proofreader that works
with them and shows them, you know, like a breakdown,
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Like he'll look over their essay and he'll give them
all kinds of tips and then help them build the
perfect essay. And that's really been helpful when we're very
fortunate to have him helping. And then we talked a
little bit about our online databases. For about let's say
three years now, we have been storing and collecting and
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building a massive online database of scholarships from around the
United States. And I don't even know how many scholarships
we have, but we have them for every state and
it's massive I'm not exaggerating. It takes time, of course
to go through that, and we do charge a fee,
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but at least they're all on one site, and if
somebody calls in, we have them categorized by, you know,
the topics from chese archaeology to teaching, to everything you
can imagine. If they're families in the military not military,
if they're women, if they're Indian, if they're African American,
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and so on. We have scholarships for absolutely anything. We
do charge a fee for that of twenty five dollars
an hour to help them, but really to to four hours,
you're going to get a huge list of scholarships. Again,
we don't guarantee the scholarships because it's very hard to
get one and you have competition. So we always tell
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people look in your local community. I know here in
Town and Defiance, the Cools Department store offers a ten
thousand dollars scholarship for someone in their local community a
student too that they could earn. So that's very important
and you should check for those sorts of things because
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you'll have more of a chance, I would think getting
something from your local community than sometimes applying online and
online and online, you know, so, because then you're talking
a lot less people maybe graduating than all the people
in the US applying or all the people in your
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state that are graduating applying. So it's really important to
kind of think outside the box when you're looking for scholarships,
look at your well, if you're in public school, you know,
obviously go to your guidance counselor if you're in charter school,
they also offer guidance counselors. So homeschoolers, I guess I'm
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the guidance counselor. So that's why people come to us
for that. We also offer a list of sites that
you can purchase all your graduation needs from reputable and
affordable companies. We have been using these for a couple
of years now, never had any problems, and that's for
homeschool charter school families. We help with every step of
planning and fundraising, which we the fundraising part of it.
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We start planning, you know, well, people can choose to
start even before they reached high school to start fundraising
for their child's future with us, and we do many
activities to do that and always are open to new ideas.
We even provide a very tasteful graduation ceremony for charter
school and homeschool families with speakers if wanted. And we
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do not sign the diplomas, but we provide the ceremony
and you know, a place to have it, and sometimes
there is a charge for the place. But we do
get grants. We got a grant actually about a week ago,
week and a half ago from Walmart and it it
was for two one hundred and fifty dollars for the
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graduation part and we got two hundred and fifty more
also for a recognition day. But we got five hundred
dollars in all. But that will go towards the graduation
ceremony and which can purchase you know, the diplomas to
special award stuff. They're part of the Honor Society. There's
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packages you buy with that and if decorations for the
graduation ceremony. Not for private parties of course, but we
do provide help with that also. So we offer a
lot of resources for families that really want something special.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
M And this there's a last note on UH scholarships
from from my experience, we're looking for schools. It's important
to search also on your the college that you're interested
in their website, UH search merit scholarships, especially if you
gar that your family may not qualify for NA financial aids,
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because a lot of the times it'll list the criteria
UH to qualify for these scholarships. And so the earlier
that you can see what the qualifications are, the better
situated you are to achieve those qualifications and to not
also accidentally apply to schools that don't have any meritates
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should you not receive financial aids, because you it's always
good to have an option to receive money obviously rather
than to not. Yeah, And and also as far as
transferring credits, I know families, so to be careful that
some schools aren't as lenient. What I've done where I
can find the information, and a lot of times navigating
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college websites are not all these the easiest. You know,
a lot of times you get the information that they
want you to speak, but you can't really find the
information you want to know. So what I've found that
in a lot of their quote catalogs or their handbooks
of the college, usually it's a PDF format, you can
find all the rules and regulations, the requirements for each major,
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their policy on transferring credits their policy and living often
on campus, you'll find everything that you need to know
and things that you thought you would never think of
and would not be wanting to find out later. For example,
let's say you go to a college and you want
to live off campus, but you have to petition to
live off campus, and they won't allow you, and it's
not guaranteed necessary that you can. So there's a lot
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of different things that I realized going through this whole
process that you just don't know until you get there,
until you get at the point where it's so clothes
that you have to start thinking about all these different
things that you never knew about, especially if you're you know,
the first child going to college or an only child
and you haven't had someone before you to kind of
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help with these experiences. So it's all you know, computer
savvy and scour the websites of the colleges that you
want to apply because the information can sometimes be hard
to find, but you can find it. And also another
one last thing, don't be afraid at all ever to
contact the schools that you like, contact their career services,
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contact their health department, get all the information that you can.
Be nosy and they'll and make them know your name.
And it's definitely helped me a lot with my college
process and having people already at the colleges that have
been accepted to that know who I am and know
what I'm interested in. That it never hurts you to
do something like that.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
That's right, That's great.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
Yeah, So you know, and I I want to share
because I know it was hard for me because I,
like I said, it's hard to know what you're It's
hard to find what you're looking for if you don't
know what you're looking for. So that that's just what
I wanted to share.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
Yeah, I had went on that clip site and I
had opened up their exams because I was curious. I
couldn't remember, you know, all the different exams. They said
they had thirty three exams and just to list a few.
I think some of these are pretty impressive that they
offer some of this. They offered foreign language, which I
didn't remember that they offer French, German, Spanish. They offer
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American literature, analyzing and interpreting literature, college camp, college Camp,
Modular English literature, Humanities. They offer history and social sciences.
They offer American government, history of the United States, early
colonization to eighteen seventy seven. They offer the History of
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the United States to eighteen sixty five to present, human
growth and development, introduction to educational psychology excuse me, and
principles of macroeconomics. And they offer psychology like I'd mentioned before, sociology,
and then social sciences. They offer Western Civilizations one and two, Biology, Calculus, Chemistry,
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college algebra, College mathematics, Natural science, precalc. Business classes. They
offer financial accounting, Information Systems and computer applications, Introductory business law,
Principles of management, and principles of marketing. I think that
is wonderful that KLUP offers so many classes that people
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could take and earn credits for. It's just to me,
I still can't find the price. They used to have
the price to test on line, and I know I
have it somewhere, but let me see, it's just fine
study materials. I'd like to really have the real cost
of the test. I know a lot of people want
to know that. I know it's right around one hundred dollars.
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I do know that, so it's still compared to how
much you spend for one class at college. In some
states it's from three hundred and eighty ish dollars to
four hundred and fifty.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
More expensive to take these classes at Yeah yeah, So
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