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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Lock Hot Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Hello everyone, and welcome to the New Heights Educational Group
talk show. My name is Kaden b Haannon. I'm a
volunteer for New Heights Educational Group. And here with me
is Pamela Clark and we will continue our discussion from
last week talking about children with special needs and education.
Hello Pamela, Hi, how are you? I'm good? How are
(01:02):
you good?
Speaker 3 (01:03):
Thank you?
Speaker 2 (01:05):
I know you wanted to share some things that you
missed from last time when our host was Maggie, So
would you can share?
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Sure, I'll be happy to I just wanted to go
over a few things that I thought were really important
on some of the different areas of what you've got
to And starting with autism, there is an autism scholarship
program here in Ohio. Now, if somebody who lives in
another state that is listening, they would have to check
(01:34):
and to their own state. But here in Ohio we
have an autism scholarship program that gives parents of children
with autism who qualify for the scholarship a choice to
send the child to special education program other than the
one operated by the school district and their residents, and
(01:55):
the child first off has to have an IEP and
they have to go through the scholarship program that's on
the Ohio Department of Education website. They can find it
very easily by typing an Autism Scholarship Program in Ohio
right now. The program is open and it was open
(02:16):
from July first, twenty twelve, and continues until June thirtieth,
twenty thirteen. And as you know, we serve homeschool, charter
and public school families. But I know that a lot
of homeschoolers have gotten the scholarship by a few people
that I know personally, and they are given twenty four
(02:38):
thousand plus close to twenty five thousand dollars a year
to use to educate their children at home, and caregivers
come in the home and provide for the children's needs
for child's needs. And like I said, you can go
on www. Dot Ode, dot date, dot Ohio, dot u
(03:02):
s for information or just type in Autism Scholarship Program
in Ohio to find that information.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
It sounds like a good opportunity.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
It really is, because it gives a little more control
to these parents that you know have children with issues,
and that's very important that they have choices in support
and that they can choose the caregivers that will best
suit their children, because a lot of people with kids
with autism, they you know, there's a whole spectrum of needs,
(03:39):
and not all children with autism needs the same thing.
It's just psych with all children. And that's kind of
a misconception. A lot of people just think, oh, they
have autism, they must all need the same thing because
they have all as well, and they don't think, well,
you know, autism, there's a whole gampit of things that
the child could have with it, like sensitivity issue to sound,
(04:01):
but then other kids won't. So it just really depends.
And this scholarship program really helps. And I wanted to
share a brief story. It was a personal it's a
personal story of something that I witnessed early on in
(04:22):
health and families before New Heights was even created. Actually
it was in another group that I had ran before
New Heights was born, and there was a family that
their son was in public school and they actually had
a number of children with autism, and the child that
(04:43):
was in public school, the public school that this child
went to really didn't understand what the child needed, and
really it wasn't a good atmosphere for the child and
the parent had to go through an awful lot to
get the child pulled out and to start the homeschool them.
And one of their children in particular that had the
(05:04):
toughest time was a young man that he was nonverbal
and he had you know, where he would hurt itself,
hit his head against the wall when he would get
aggravated and just couldn't speak. And from her homeschooling, she
(05:25):
was a nurse, she was a registered nurse, but she
ended up homeschooling him. And in my group at the time,
we did help her with activities and field trips and
and we provided services to her and we had celebrations,
you know, we we created a atmosphere where we you know,
(05:49):
gave support to her family as friendship and and other things.
And that's really important too. But she took it another
step farther. She totally put her child first and tried
to get into his head to help him. And from
what the thing she did, along with her husband, they
(06:10):
reached this child on a level that a lot of
people do not. And this child went from being nonverbal
to being able to read write, ended up going to
college and living on his own. And everyone that knows
(06:32):
anything about autism knows that's huge. But the message I
want to get across for that is is anything is possible.
I don't care what special need or disability. If a
person's more comfortable with that word, which I really don't
care for it. I don't care what their problem is,
(06:56):
but they can overcome it, period. And I think and
this goes now into the other things that you and
Maggie discussed last week, where the bipolar disorder, the ad D.
The ADHD. Sometimes schools and doctors are very easy, easily,
(07:23):
you know, diagnose children, but sometimes that can be bad.
Now you obviously you want to know if your child
has a special need what it is because you want
to help them, and you really have to, you know,
get out of your own head of thinking, Okay, well
this is the way that I want to teach, because
(07:44):
this is the way I know if you're a homeschooler,
chart whatever. But it's more about the students. So you
have to figure out, okay, well it's not about me
and what I think or how they should learn is
how they do learn. And then you know, figure that
out and then the guy there is no limit and
(08:06):
so you want to be careful because a lot of
these kids with these different labels, they end up using
them as excuses for laziness, for not trying to reach
their goals, not trying to pick a career path. They
(08:28):
often just give up because they feel like, well, why
should I bother? And that is never ever the answer.
And I want to kind of go into a little
bit too about special needs versus disability. I really don't
like the word disability because it's another label. It's another
(08:50):
label for people saying, well, you know, my child has
autism so they can't learn. And you know, I know
a lot of people will kids with autism and they
don't think that way. But you know, sometimes people do
give up. Sometimes human nature has a lazy streak in it.
(09:11):
And but in general, people with kids with special needs
they're far from lazy because they have such a love
and they understand that there's something else there that needs
to be ascended to. But it's it's really interesting to
me working in the educational field to use the word
special needs because every time they try to put special
(09:34):
needs on our paperwork, even for when a student comes
in or a parent and they want to have tutoring classes,
they say, we don't understand what this means. Is this talent?
And I'm like, no, does your child have a disability.
For some reason, our society is so hung up on
that word disability that they don't even understand when you
(09:58):
put special needs instead of that. And if you label
your child and then you say my child has a
disability instead of saying my child has a special need,
you're just playing into that negativity where your child will
pay the ultimate price because they're going to fill and
superior to everyone else. And that's not a good thing.
(10:26):
My children, they had special needs, and that doesn't make
them less than they were very bright, very intelligent children.
They're both gifted in different ways. My youngest son has
bipolar disorder, and I want to speak a little bitter
on that because I know other people use that as
(10:47):
an excuse and a crush for either reacting overreacting, to
acting out, to just using it as an excuse in general.
And I was talking to him a little bit before
the show started and he was saying, well, I had
(11:07):
to find a stress release. I mean, yes, I taught
him the way that he needed to be taught, and
I got out of my own head on that of
how I thought he should learn. But anyone that knows
my youngest son, he's quite amazing. He's nineteen, and he
wants to be a maritime archaeologist, and he already is
(11:28):
an advanced diver, rescue diver, has many different diving deories,
he's an underwater archaeologist, already has many different certificates and
has already been reaching his goals with that. But that
was an outlet for him. So anybody with bipolar disorder,
I would say, instead of feed in the negativity, give
(11:51):
them something positive, find out what they want to do
with their life, and give them the tool. Do whatever
you can to give them something else to focus on
instead of that title, and you will see good things happen.
And most people that meet my youngest son, they would
(12:13):
never ever ever guess that he has bipolar or anything
really wrong with him, because he doesn't show this common
signs of it because of the things we did here
at home. We kept the atmosphere calm, and even you know,
he's and a lot of people they aren't like that.
(12:36):
A lot of people live in homes that aren't calm
and even but you know, we can always change that too.
There's always an out to behavior and behavioral issues. And
I really believe that all these things can be overcome.
(12:59):
And if you show your child that you believe in them,
that you will do everything in your power to help
them through their struggles, they they will want to do
good and they won't have the tendencies that we're seeing
in our society today, the tendencies of destruction are hurting others.
(13:22):
They will understand, they will see that we are more
than just us as a person, that we're part of
a larger dynamic that's out there, that we're supposed to
be serving and helping others to make our world better.
And that's kind of message that we want kids to
(13:43):
get because they will be our future leaders. And that
could be either beat or that could be good, depending
on the kind of message and the kind of labels
that we give these kids.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
Okay, and do you think that I know you've had
mentioned that many parents and people in general when you
mentioned special needs, they're unaware of what necessarily that means.
Do you think that a way of perhaps improving this
understanding of what special needs is is to educate parents
and children on what it means to be a special
(14:19):
needs child or in the special needs population.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
Sure, and that's why we're doing the show. We're not doctors.
We don't want to make people think that we're trying.
You know, we're not experts in everything. But the thing
is we're not afraid to learn. We're not afraid to
talk about things. It's very important to have conversations with
(14:50):
parents that have the same issues as you do, or
even just to be around other people, for children, to
be around other positive children and adults, and really to
quit that generational thing of being labeled of I mean
(15:15):
those disability. Does that word make you feel better than
the word special need? To me, I'd rather say special
needs because that really what it is. And everybody, everybody,
whether they're a so called normal kid or a kid
with a so called disability or special needs, do have
(15:37):
special needs because everybody is unique, and everyone is you
is different, and you know, Joe and Sarah aren't going
to need the same things no matter what their background is.
So everybody needs a special need. And if it's that
like that, I think we're going to get farther and
(15:59):
reaching our people then you know, tying ourselves down to
titles and labels and negative words that really don't help anybody.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
Very interesting.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
I know that.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
Another I suppose special needs population that we wanted to
talk about was students with add and ADHD. And in
my high school, I go to a medical oriented high
school and we talk about different diagnoses very often, and
(16:37):
ADD and ADHD is one of the most misdiagnosed conditions
that we have among the younger population, at least in
my experience. I've had a cousin who has been thought
to have had attention issues. And many of the times
(16:58):
when this happens in the classroom, either the child befitting
or can't concentrate for long periods of time. Suddenly teachers
or bystanders of any means, or even parents will ask themselves,
why is my child not behaving like the other children?
Why is my child not focusing and not able to
(17:19):
concentrate as long as everybody else seems to be able
to do. And I feel as though we are very
quick to jump on there being an issue rather than or,
for example, it being an issue so we can label
that the reason for this problem, for this attention span issue,
and for the other characteristics is because the child has
(17:42):
a problem. For the person has a problem. And I
think we're just very quick to label that. As you said,
labeling can be a very difficult thing because then you
accept that label and then you personal study it and
you don't try to reach your potential. As you've said,
And I've seen this a lot, and it's a very
hot topic with ADD and ADHD, especially because there's not
(18:05):
a lot really known as to what causes it, and
many times it's diagnosed in children who may not necessarily
have this symptom, but it makes them believe that they
have this issue within themselves and that this is what's
preventing them from succeeding and overcoming this instead of saying, okay,
(18:27):
well maybe you just need to concentrate a little bit more,
paying attention, doing focused tasks, exercising those concentration skills. And
I know myself about as labeled as having ADD and ADHD,
like you said, I would believe, well, you know, my
doctor told me I had this, so I just I
(18:47):
can't concentrate by my nature. And I think that's another
example of the dangers of labeling children, especially very early
on with conditions that are not very well known as
to what causes it and what the characteristics are. So
that's another example I think where we want into trouble.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
I think an issue too is is the And I'm
not a doctor. I'm not saying that you shouldn't, you know,
put your children on the medication, but I would very
much look at it and look into it and make
the decision for yourself because I think that the medications
used can be very dangerous. They can be harmful. And
(19:34):
I didn't use the medications for my kids and by
but I was a homeschooler. I thought, if I'm gonna
if I'm going to homeschool them, I'm not going to
drug them. I'm going to figure out, you know, what
they need and how to teach them. And that's what
I'm going to do. And it worked out very well
(19:54):
for me without doing that, and I think both of
my kids would agree with that. I really don't think
that it's as necessary as some believe it is. I
think that if you engage students and they're interested in something,
(20:14):
then you're not going to have some of the issues
that they can plain about. But you can't do that
in some of the school formats that with the children's face.
I know one of the things we want to talk
about too, and if any of you have children with
these kind of things or these special needs, then you
(20:35):
want help or you want advice, talk about anything. You
can always call us at New Heights. But I know,
you know, we're kind of running out of time, and
we wanted to just touch base on Filiac disease and
gluten sensitivity resources because these things kind of go hand
in hand. Diet plays a factor in ADHD ADHD autism
(20:58):
and everything that you do, diet plays a factor, but
sometimes there's more problems than just diet. There's other underlying things.
And I know you want to share some stuff on
that cadence.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
And I myself, I was actually having trouble with being
celiac intolerant, not necessarily the Celiac disease, which I'll get
into the difference. So I have a little bit of
background knowledge as to what Celiac disease and celiac sensitivity
can be. The actual disease is more severe than the sensitivity.
(21:32):
What Celiac disease is is a gluten sensitivity, but to
the extreme of being allergic to gluten, having issues with
the inflammation of the intestines when eating gluten products, and
what gluten is in the simplest terms, is anything made
(21:54):
with wheat, and so these are your breads, your pastas,
all things like that. And it can even be in
items such as gravy, salad dressings, obviously, cookies and cakes.
So gluten and surrounds us everywhere. And so we find
that children nowadays are having either you know, an intolerance
(22:16):
or the actual disease to eating gluten. So it's not
necessarily that well researched at the moment that as to
what the cause of Celiacs disease is. We just know
that the sensitivity will cause information of the intestine. It
(22:38):
can cause very very bad cramping, which I've had. You know,
I would make wake up at five o'clock in the
morning or two o'clock in the morning sometimes after eating
pasta and have horrible, horrible cramps. It makes it harder
to breathe. Also, having Celiacs disease and having that damage
(23:00):
intestines can sometimes lead to more diseases, such as Crone's disease,
which is another disease of the intestines of sensitive intestines. Also,
symptoms that go along with CELIAX include diarrhea as well.
Sometimes people can be nauseated and vomit. I personally haven't
(23:21):
had this, but I know that for those with the
actual disease that nauseen vomiting is more of a factor
because it's more severe. In the actual disease. Also, you
can experience weight gain or weight loss dependent on the
type of person that you are, and many times it
leaves you feeling very tired. When you have Celiac disease,
(23:46):
you're not absorbing the nutrients that you need because you're intestines,
which is where most of the absorption of your nutrients
takes place. In the small intestines, they're unable to absorb
foods with gluten in it, and because the gluten sensitive sensitizes,
intestines will become inflamed and unable to absorb the nutrients
(24:09):
of the other food that you've eaten. So I know
that what had led me to find out that I
have somewhat of a sensitivity was that my vitamin D
levels were very low, and so when I was trying
to figure out why that was, because there was nothing
wrong with my diet and my intake of vitamin D
even with the supplements, we found that it was because
(24:30):
I was eating gluten or heavier amounts of gluten that
my body wasn't able to absorb those nutrients. So it
can lead to more than just an irritated stomach or
an irritated intestines. It can lead to hair loss, It
can lead to depression, anxiety, you can feel very tired
because you're not getting the nutrients you need. In severe cases,
(24:54):
can even lead to seizures and gross delay breathing using
you know, fatigue, as I've said before. So it's something
that really, in my experience, depends on who you are.
It affects everybody very differently. I know some people with
(25:14):
the VIEVES that have as minimal an interaction with being
allergic as I have had, and I know that there
are some people that have very very severe reactions to
eating even the smallest amount of gluten. And the reason
that we wanted to talk about this today is because
it can affect your children if you find that. And
(25:38):
I know where we're trying to diagnose anyone or any
things like that. As Pamina said, we're not doctors, but
we just want parents to be aware that if their
children are having some sensitivity as I know that I had,
and I was having it for a long time, and
I couldn't figure out why I was having it. Perhaps
(25:59):
parents who are more aware, you can go to your
doctors as I did, get blood work done and try
to see, you know, what's irritating your children's stomachus that
they're having the same symptoms that goes along with this disease.
Because as I said before, it can either be very severe,
it can be an annoyance. And even though mine was
(26:20):
not as severe, I definitely would prefer to be without
all those early mornings of feeling very sick and not
really knowing why. So because what we just wanted to
share kind of and you can get more information if
you google it, and if you're concerned about if you
feel that your children or yourself are having similar symptoms, definitely,
(26:43):
you know, go to your doctor. It wasn't invasive at
all for me. All you have to do you can
just request a referral for blood work and it's really
as simple as that. You don't typically you don't get
any medication with this. You just have to restrict your
diet and eat more glute and free food. So that's
just what I wanted to share in se the X
(27:03):
disease and gluten sensitivity.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
I think it's important too, since we're talking fit the
activities and gluten. You know, another alternative to a doctor
along with going to your doctor is to see someone
that deals with the natural alternatives, like a homeopathic or
(27:27):
someone like that. And I know a lot of people
that do have these issues that choose to go to
that type of person then then a doctor, and that's
of course their decision, but it does seem to help them.
Like you said, there is no medication for some of this,
So if if you can find a natural way and
(27:51):
see someone that is an expert with that, that's definitely
an alternative that you should look at.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
Okay, yeah, and definitely. And we just serve mainly to
you know, give resources, as we've said, to educate and
to help people who may not be still familiar with
the breadth of things that there are out there, and
so that just we become more familiar, to become more educated,
you can make better decisions as to how to approach,
(28:22):
you know, the issues that you come across with your
children or with yourself. And that's what our main goal,
right Oh, Pamela, I have since I don't think we
have any colors at the moment, we can just go
ahead and wrap up by saying that, you know, as
(28:44):
Pamela said, we want to be very careful when labeling
each other and ourselves when we come into contact with
populations that have special needs, and we want to be
very aware of what actually means and to not necessarily
label it as a disability or as something being wrong
(29:05):
with somebody. As Pamela said, we all have special needs
because we're all unique. And I think that's the message
that we really want to take away from this show.
Our next show, we're going to be having a Valentine's
Day special and give you a few fun fashions on
Valentine's Day and we hope to see you then. Thank you, Kat,
thank you Pamela, see your next show.
Speaker 3 (29:28):
Welcome yep, thank you Audu. When I am done.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
My soul, so one trouble come and my heart.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
And I am have and wait.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
Here inside Bell.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
Till you come
Speaker 1 (30:09):
And see whoe with me.
Lock Hot Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Hello everyone, and welcome to the New Heights Educational Group
talk show. My name is Kaden b Haannon. I'm a
volunteer for New Heights Educational Group. And here with me
is Pamela Clark and we will continue our discussion from
last week talking about children with special needs and education.
Hello Pamela, Hi, how are you? I'm good? How are
(01:02):
you good?
Speaker 3 (01:03):
Thank you?
Speaker 2 (01:05):
I know you wanted to share some things that you
missed from last time when our host was Maggie, So
would you can share?
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Sure, I'll be happy to I just wanted to go
over a few things that I thought were really important
on some of the different areas of what you've got
to And starting with autism, there is an autism scholarship
program here in Ohio. Now, if somebody who lives in
another state that is listening, they would have to check
(01:34):
and to their own state. But here in Ohio we
have an autism scholarship program that gives parents of children
with autism who qualify for the scholarship a choice to
send the child to special education program other than the
one operated by the school district and their residents, and
(01:55):
the child first off has to have an IEP and
they have to go through the scholarship program that's on
the Ohio Department of Education website. They can find it
very easily by typing an Autism Scholarship Program in Ohio
right now. The program is open and it was open
(02:16):
from July first, twenty twelve, and continues until June thirtieth,
twenty thirteen. And as you know, we serve homeschool, charter
and public school families. But I know that a lot
of homeschoolers have gotten the scholarship by a few people
that I know personally, and they are given twenty four
(02:38):
thousand plus close to twenty five thousand dollars a year
to use to educate their children at home, and caregivers
come in the home and provide for the children's needs
for child's needs. And like I said, you can go
on www. Dot Ode, dot date, dot Ohio, dot u
(03:02):
s for information or just type in Autism Scholarship Program
in Ohio to find that information.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
It sounds like a good opportunity.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
It really is, because it gives a little more control
to these parents that you know have children with issues,
and that's very important that they have choices in support
and that they can choose the caregivers that will best
suit their children, because a lot of people with kids
with autism, they you know, there's a whole spectrum of needs,
(03:39):
and not all children with autism needs the same thing.
It's just psych with all children. And that's kind of
a misconception. A lot of people just think, oh, they
have autism, they must all need the same thing because
they have all as well, and they don't think, well,
you know, autism, there's a whole gampit of things that
the child could have with it, like sensitivity issue to sound,
(04:01):
but then other kids won't. So it just really depends.
And this scholarship program really helps. And I wanted to
share a brief story. It was a personal it's a
personal story of something that I witnessed early on in
(04:22):
health and families before New Heights was even created. Actually
it was in another group that I had ran before
New Heights was born, and there was a family that
their son was in public school and they actually had
a number of children with autism, and the child that
(04:43):
was in public school, the public school that this child
went to really didn't understand what the child needed, and
really it wasn't a good atmosphere for the child and
the parent had to go through an awful lot to
get the child pulled out and to start the homeschool them.
And one of their children in particular that had the
(05:04):
toughest time was a young man that he was nonverbal
and he had you know, where he would hurt itself,
hit his head against the wall when he would get
aggravated and just couldn't speak. And from her homeschooling, she
(05:25):
was a nurse, she was a registered nurse, but she
ended up homeschooling him. And in my group at the time,
we did help her with activities and field trips and
and we provided services to her and we had celebrations,
you know, we we created a atmosphere where we you know,
(05:49):
gave support to her family as friendship and and other things.
And that's really important too. But she took it another
step farther. She totally put her child first and tried
to get into his head to help him. And from
what the thing she did, along with her husband, they
(06:10):
reached this child on a level that a lot of
people do not. And this child went from being nonverbal
to being able to read write, ended up going to
college and living on his own. And everyone that knows
(06:32):
anything about autism knows that's huge. But the message I
want to get across for that is is anything is possible.
I don't care what special need or disability. If a
person's more comfortable with that word, which I really don't
care for it. I don't care what their problem is,
(06:56):
but they can overcome it, period. And I think and
this goes now into the other things that you and
Maggie discussed last week, where the bipolar disorder, the ad D.
The ADHD. Sometimes schools and doctors are very easy, easily,
(07:23):
you know, diagnose children, but sometimes that can be bad.
Now you obviously you want to know if your child
has a special need what it is because you want
to help them, and you really have to, you know,
get out of your own head of thinking, Okay, well
this is the way that I want to teach, because
(07:44):
this is the way I know if you're a homeschooler,
chart whatever. But it's more about the students. So you
have to figure out, okay, well it's not about me
and what I think or how they should learn is
how they do learn. And then you know, figure that
out and then the guy there is no limit and
(08:06):
so you want to be careful because a lot of
these kids with these different labels, they end up using
them as excuses for laziness, for not trying to reach
their goals, not trying to pick a career path. They
(08:28):
often just give up because they feel like, well, why
should I bother? And that is never ever the answer.
And I want to kind of go into a little
bit too about special needs versus disability. I really don't
like the word disability because it's another label. It's another
(08:50):
label for people saying, well, you know, my child has
autism so they can't learn. And you know, I know
a lot of people will kids with autism and they
don't think that way. But you know, sometimes people do
give up. Sometimes human nature has a lazy streak in it.
(09:11):
And but in general, people with kids with special needs
they're far from lazy because they have such a love
and they understand that there's something else there that needs
to be ascended to. But it's it's really interesting to
me working in the educational field to use the word
special needs because every time they try to put special
(09:34):
needs on our paperwork, even for when a student comes
in or a parent and they want to have tutoring classes,
they say, we don't understand what this means. Is this talent?
And I'm like, no, does your child have a disability.
For some reason, our society is so hung up on
that word disability that they don't even understand when you
(09:58):
put special needs instead of that. And if you label
your child and then you say my child has a
disability instead of saying my child has a special need,
you're just playing into that negativity where your child will
pay the ultimate price because they're going to fill and
superior to everyone else. And that's not a good thing.
(10:26):
My children, they had special needs, and that doesn't make
them less than they were very bright, very intelligent children.
They're both gifted in different ways. My youngest son has
bipolar disorder, and I want to speak a little bitter
on that because I know other people use that as
(10:47):
an excuse and a crush for either reacting overreacting, to
acting out, to just using it as an excuse in general.
And I was talking to him a little bit before
the show started and he was saying, well, I had
(11:07):
to find a stress release. I mean, yes, I taught
him the way that he needed to be taught, and
I got out of my own head on that of
how I thought he should learn. But anyone that knows
my youngest son, he's quite amazing. He's nineteen, and he
wants to be a maritime archaeologist, and he already is
(11:28):
an advanced diver, rescue diver, has many different diving deories,
he's an underwater archaeologist, already has many different certificates and
has already been reaching his goals with that. But that
was an outlet for him. So anybody with bipolar disorder,
I would say, instead of feed in the negativity, give
(11:51):
them something positive, find out what they want to do
with their life, and give them the tool. Do whatever
you can to give them something else to focus on
instead of that title, and you will see good things happen.
And most people that meet my youngest son, they would
(12:13):
never ever ever guess that he has bipolar or anything
really wrong with him, because he doesn't show this common
signs of it because of the things we did here
at home. We kept the atmosphere calm, and even you know,
he's and a lot of people they aren't like that.
(12:36):
A lot of people live in homes that aren't calm
and even but you know, we can always change that too.
There's always an out to behavior and behavioral issues. And
I really believe that all these things can be overcome.
(12:59):
And if you show your child that you believe in them,
that you will do everything in your power to help
them through their struggles, they they will want to do
good and they won't have the tendencies that we're seeing
in our society today, the tendencies of destruction are hurting others.
(13:22):
They will understand, they will see that we are more
than just us as a person, that we're part of
a larger dynamic that's out there, that we're supposed to
be serving and helping others to make our world better.
And that's kind of message that we want kids to
(13:43):
get because they will be our future leaders. And that
could be either beat or that could be good, depending
on the kind of message and the kind of labels
that we give these kids.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
Okay, and do you think that I know you've had
mentioned that many parents and people in general when you
mentioned special needs, they're unaware of what necessarily that means.
Do you think that a way of perhaps improving this
understanding of what special needs is is to educate parents
and children on what it means to be a special
(14:19):
needs child or in the special needs population.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
Sure, and that's why we're doing the show. We're not doctors.
We don't want to make people think that we're trying.
You know, we're not experts in everything. But the thing
is we're not afraid to learn. We're not afraid to
talk about things. It's very important to have conversations with
(14:50):
parents that have the same issues as you do, or
even just to be around other people, for children, to
be around other positive children and adults, and really to
quit that generational thing of being labeled of I mean
(15:15):
those disability. Does that word make you feel better than
the word special need? To me, I'd rather say special
needs because that really what it is. And everybody, everybody,
whether they're a so called normal kid or a kid
with a so called disability or special needs, do have
(15:37):
special needs because everybody is unique, and everyone is you
is different, and you know, Joe and Sarah aren't going
to need the same things no matter what their background is.
So everybody needs a special need. And if it's that
like that, I think we're going to get farther and
(15:59):
reaching our people then you know, tying ourselves down to
titles and labels and negative words that really don't help anybody.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
Very interesting.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
I know that.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
Another I suppose special needs population that we wanted to
talk about was students with add and ADHD. And in
my high school, I go to a medical oriented high
school and we talk about different diagnoses very often, and
(16:37):
ADD and ADHD is one of the most misdiagnosed conditions
that we have among the younger population, at least in
my experience. I've had a cousin who has been thought
to have had attention issues. And many of the times
(16:58):
when this happens in the classroom, either the child befitting
or can't concentrate for long periods of time. Suddenly teachers
or bystanders of any means, or even parents will ask themselves,
why is my child not behaving like the other children?
Why is my child not focusing and not able to
(17:19):
concentrate as long as everybody else seems to be able
to do. And I feel as though we are very
quick to jump on there being an issue rather than or,
for example, it being an issue so we can label
that the reason for this problem, for this attention span issue,
and for the other characteristics is because the child has
(17:42):
a problem. For the person has a problem. And I
think we're just very quick to label that. As you said,
labeling can be a very difficult thing because then you
accept that label and then you personal study it and
you don't try to reach your potential. As you've said,
And I've seen this a lot, and it's a very
hot topic with ADD and ADHD, especially because there's not
(18:05):
a lot really known as to what causes it, and
many times it's diagnosed in children who may not necessarily
have this symptom, but it makes them believe that they
have this issue within themselves and that this is what's
preventing them from succeeding and overcoming this instead of saying, okay,
(18:27):
well maybe you just need to concentrate a little bit more,
paying attention, doing focused tasks, exercising those concentration skills. And
I know myself about as labeled as having ADD and ADHD,
like you said, I would believe, well, you know, my
doctor told me I had this, so I just I
(18:47):
can't concentrate by my nature. And I think that's another
example of the dangers of labeling children, especially very early
on with conditions that are not very well known as
to what causes it and what the characteristics are. So
that's another example I think where we want into trouble.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
I think an issue too is is the And I'm
not a doctor. I'm not saying that you shouldn't, you know,
put your children on the medication, but I would very
much look at it and look into it and make
the decision for yourself because I think that the medications
used can be very dangerous. They can be harmful. And
(19:34):
I didn't use the medications for my kids and by
but I was a homeschooler. I thought, if I'm gonna
if I'm going to homeschool them, I'm not going to
drug them. I'm going to figure out, you know, what
they need and how to teach them. And that's what
I'm going to do. And it worked out very well
(19:54):
for me without doing that, and I think both of
my kids would agree with that. I really don't think
that it's as necessary as some believe it is. I
think that if you engage students and they're interested in something,
(20:14):
then you're not going to have some of the issues
that they can plain about. But you can't do that
in some of the school formats that with the children's face.
I know one of the things we want to talk
about too, and if any of you have children with
these kind of things or these special needs, then you
(20:35):
want help or you want advice, talk about anything. You
can always call us at New Heights. But I know,
you know, we're kind of running out of time, and
we wanted to just touch base on Filiac disease and
gluten sensitivity resources because these things kind of go hand
in hand. Diet plays a factor in ADHD ADHD autism
(20:58):
and everything that you do, diet plays a factor, but
sometimes there's more problems than just diet. There's other underlying things.
And I know you want to share some stuff on
that cadence.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
And I myself, I was actually having trouble with being
celiac intolerant, not necessarily the Celiac disease, which I'll get
into the difference. So I have a little bit of
background knowledge as to what Celiac disease and celiac sensitivity
can be. The actual disease is more severe than the sensitivity.
(21:32):
What Celiac disease is is a gluten sensitivity, but to
the extreme of being allergic to gluten, having issues with
the inflammation of the intestines when eating gluten products, and
what gluten is in the simplest terms, is anything made
(21:54):
with wheat, and so these are your breads, your pastas,
all things like that. And it can even be in
items such as gravy, salad dressings, obviously, cookies and cakes.
So gluten and surrounds us everywhere. And so we find
that children nowadays are having either you know, an intolerance
(22:16):
or the actual disease to eating gluten. So it's not
necessarily that well researched at the moment that as to
what the cause of Celiacs disease is. We just know
that the sensitivity will cause information of the intestine. It
(22:38):
can cause very very bad cramping, which I've had. You know,
I would make wake up at five o'clock in the
morning or two o'clock in the morning sometimes after eating
pasta and have horrible, horrible cramps. It makes it harder
to breathe. Also, having Celiacs disease and having that damage
(23:00):
intestines can sometimes lead to more diseases, such as Crone's disease,
which is another disease of the intestines of sensitive intestines. Also,
symptoms that go along with CELIAX include diarrhea as well.
Sometimes people can be nauseated and vomit. I personally haven't
(23:21):
had this, but I know that for those with the
actual disease that nauseen vomiting is more of a factor
because it's more severe. In the actual disease. Also, you
can experience weight gain or weight loss dependent on the
type of person that you are, and many times it
leaves you feeling very tired. When you have Celiac disease,
(23:46):
you're not absorbing the nutrients that you need because you're intestines,
which is where most of the absorption of your nutrients
takes place. In the small intestines, they're unable to absorb
foods with gluten in it, and because the gluten sensitive sensitizes,
intestines will become inflamed and unable to absorb the nutrients
(24:09):
of the other food that you've eaten. So I know
that what had led me to find out that I
have somewhat of a sensitivity was that my vitamin D
levels were very low, and so when I was trying
to figure out why that was, because there was nothing
wrong with my diet and my intake of vitamin D
even with the supplements, we found that it was because
(24:30):
I was eating gluten or heavier amounts of gluten that
my body wasn't able to absorb those nutrients. So it
can lead to more than just an irritated stomach or
an irritated intestines. It can lead to hair loss, It
can lead to depression, anxiety, you can feel very tired
because you're not getting the nutrients you need. In severe cases,
(24:54):
can even lead to seizures and gross delay breathing using
you know, fatigue, as I've said before. So it's something
that really, in my experience, depends on who you are.
It affects everybody very differently. I know some people with
(25:14):
the VIEVES that have as minimal an interaction with being
allergic as I have had, and I know that there
are some people that have very very severe reactions to
eating even the smallest amount of gluten. And the reason
that we wanted to talk about this today is because
it can affect your children if you find that. And
(25:38):
I know where we're trying to diagnose anyone or any
things like that. As Pamina said, we're not doctors, but
we just want parents to be aware that if their
children are having some sensitivity as I know that I had,
and I was having it for a long time, and
I couldn't figure out why I was having it. Perhaps
(25:59):
parents who are more aware, you can go to your
doctors as I did, get blood work done and try
to see, you know, what's irritating your children's stomachus that
they're having the same symptoms that goes along with this disease.
Because as I said before, it can either be very severe,
it can be an annoyance. And even though mine was
(26:20):
not as severe, I definitely would prefer to be without
all those early mornings of feeling very sick and not
really knowing why. So because what we just wanted to
share kind of and you can get more information if
you google it, and if you're concerned about if you
feel that your children or yourself are having similar symptoms, definitely,
(26:43):
you know, go to your doctor. It wasn't invasive at
all for me. All you have to do you can
just request a referral for blood work and it's really
as simple as that. You don't typically you don't get
any medication with this. You just have to restrict your
diet and eat more glute and free food. So that's
just what I wanted to share in se the X
(27:03):
disease and gluten sensitivity.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
I think it's important too, since we're talking fit the
activities and gluten. You know, another alternative to a doctor
along with going to your doctor is to see someone
that deals with the natural alternatives, like a homeopathic or
(27:27):
someone like that. And I know a lot of people
that do have these issues that choose to go to
that type of person then then a doctor, and that's
of course their decision, but it does seem to help them.
Like you said, there is no medication for some of this,
So if if you can find a natural way and
(27:51):
see someone that is an expert with that, that's definitely
an alternative that you should look at.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
Okay, yeah, and definitely. And we just serve mainly to
you know, give resources, as we've said, to educate and
to help people who may not be still familiar with
the breadth of things that there are out there, and
so that just we become more familiar, to become more educated,
you can make better decisions as to how to approach,
(28:22):
you know, the issues that you come across with your
children or with yourself. And that's what our main goal,
right Oh, Pamela, I have since I don't think we
have any colors at the moment, we can just go
ahead and wrap up by saying that, you know, as
(28:44):
Pamela said, we want to be very careful when labeling
each other and ourselves when we come into contact with
populations that have special needs, and we want to be
very aware of what actually means and to not necessarily
label it as a disability or as something being wrong
(29:05):
with somebody. As Pamela said, we all have special needs
because we're all unique. And I think that's the message
that we really want to take away from this show.
Our next show, we're going to be having a Valentine's
Day special and give you a few fun fashions on
Valentine's Day and we hope to see you then. Thank you, Kat,
thank you Pamela, see your next show.
Speaker 3 (29:28):
Welcome yep, thank you Audu. When I am done.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
My soul, so one trouble come and my heart.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
And I am have and wait.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
Here inside Bell.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
Till you come
Speaker 1 (30:09):
And see whoe with me.
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