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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Love Hate Radio.

Speaker 2 (00:46):
Hello, I'm welcome to the New Educational Group webster. My
name is Kaden Behand, your host and a volunteer for
New Heights Educational Groups. For more information about New Heights
Educational Group after the show, feel free to visit w
W New Heights Education dot org or contact phone number
four one nine seven eight six zero two four seven.

(01:08):
Here with me is Pamela Clark, founder and director of
New Heights Educational Group. Hello Pamela, Hello Cayden.

Speaker 3 (01:15):
How are you today?

Speaker 2 (01:16):
I'm well and today we're going to talk about math
tifts and difficulties. First, I'd like to have Pamela talk
about her experience with teaching math at home with her
children and with the children that she's helped in giving
resources to homeschool. So, Pamela, would you like to take
it away?

Speaker 3 (01:35):
Sure, thank you. Yeah. My experience of course started with
maybe in a homeschool mom, which I was a homeschool
mom for thirteen years, and in that course of that time,
I tried everything over the years just to make sure
you know, from year to year that we were trying
different things and you know, improving on the year before. Now.

(01:58):
Unlike a lot of homeschoolers. Not all, but a lot
of homeschoolers that I've talked to in the past, some
people are very uncomfortable teaching math because the parents, you know,
didn't really deal well with math. And that wasn't the
case for me. I did very well in math and
when I was in school, and I was quite comfortable

(02:18):
teaching it to my kids. But again, I did want
to try different things, and in the course of all
those years, I tried math programs such as Rebecca Saxon,
Bob Jones, Rod and Staff, oh gosh, I know, there's
Mathew c. And then last but not least, I went

(02:41):
into teaching textbooks for my youngest son, who at that
time was a junior and senior. And I personally, I've
known a lot of people that were homeschooler in charter
school or whatever, and they liked the different curriculums for

(03:02):
different reasons, and a lot of people really like Saxon math.
For me, I didn't care for it. It wasn't right
for my children, but again that's a personal choice. I
didn't care for a Becker, Bob Jones math either. Again
came down to personal choice. I really liked Rod and Staff,

(03:22):
and I used it in the majority of the years
that I was teaching, and I liked it because it
it was a it's a Christian curriculum, and I know,
you know, some people are also, they don't if they're
not homeschooling for religious reasons. Roden's staff is very much

(03:48):
they're they're more around with, you know, like the Mennonites
believe religious wise, and I was one of those parents
that even though I'm a Christian and I did not
decide to homeschool because of religion. I did it for
other reasons. So the Roden staff math, even though it

(04:10):
was a Christian base, which hey, we did study the
Bible in different things during school hours. But again I
didn't choose that curriculum for that reason. And I really
want to make that clear because I think it's important
because math, and even though it has religious information, doesn't

(04:30):
mean that you have to use it in that way.
I liked it because it kept things simple. A lot
of people say, well, maths text books make things complicated.
I hear that a lot from the kids in public
school that they're like, why do they have to make
maths so difficult? Why do they have to make it
so confusing, and I hear that over and over again.

(04:54):
And Roden Staff Maths, they really made it simple. They
kept math the way it should be usually understood, and
I really liked it. Now, after all those years teaching
textbooks came out probably the last four years of my
homeschooling experience, but I didn't really hear about it till

(05:16):
about three, you know, like sophomore junior year, and I
decided to try it because the homeschool community was really
buzzing't about it. They were so excited because it not
only has the textbook and the teacher's book, it's like

(05:37):
homeschoolers are used to, but every single problem that's in
that book is also in a disc and it has
a professor that teaches each and every problem to that student.
So it will go over. This professor that's gone, These
disks will go over. They'll teach me whatever chapter, leading

(06:03):
the child like the traditional homeschooler would do, leading them
up to their first problems. We'll do the practice problems
with them. They say, pause the pause the disc, and
then you work on the practice said and you check
your answers with them, and then you turn the disc
completely off and the student then solves their problems, and
then the parents starts the disc again and they checked

(06:24):
the problems with the students and if the students or
actually I didn't do it that way, I guess I
craded my own child's paper. And then I let that
professor go back in and he or she, which it

(06:45):
was a hymn most of the time, actually would show
the problem step by step of what that student missed,
so we only had to go over the problems that
they missed. And I thought that was a wonderful resource.
It truly took me. Again. I was good at math,
and I was good at teaching it, but it relieved

(07:06):
some pressure, and it had another teacher to help teach
my child the last two years of high school in math,
and I just, man, it was wonderful. And my son
at the time, like I said, my children are four
eight years apart, so I only had my youngest at
the time. He really liked it, and it was easy

(07:30):
to understand, and it went along with how I had
already been teaching, easy to understand, you know, following through
with me. So it was a good math curriculum, and
I highly and doors teaching textbooks. I don't get anything
for saying that, of course, but it's just I do now.

(07:51):
This is also what we use for our teachers when
they're tutoring someone. Rather it's a younger they have. I
believe they start at third grade and teaching textbooks and
they go all the way up. I'm not sure. I
know they do calculus, I believe. I'm not sure they

(08:13):
grow every year. So it's it just sort of depends.
And I haven't been back on their site recently, but
teaching Textbooks dot Com, I believe is their site. And
then I just you know, I highly believe in teaching
textbooks and we use it for tutoring. And that also
helps with our teachers and tutors because if they don't

(08:35):
understand something, or if they don't remember something, they can
put the disc again too. They can learn right with
this professor. And it's it's just a very good curriculum
and I really highly suggest it for all homeschoolers. Anybody
that comes in for advice and says what should we use,
I say, teaching textbooks. And then also we use what

(08:58):
we call mass success labs when trying to help students
replacing them in whatever grade they need to be in.
When they come in for help. And I know a
lot of public schools use that too, and that's an
online assessment that we run and it's kind of expensive,

(09:20):
so it's not something I would suggest that someone purchase
on their own. Teaching textbooks pretty expensive too, I think
the one hundred and eighty four dollars for a brand
new set, and you can get cheaper for you know,
less mass difficulties. One of the things that I really
really wanted to say to everybody is, I know a

(09:41):
lot of people say, gosh, my younger kids, they can't
remember mostly it's multiplication tables or divisions whatever. Some people
they have problems with their kids even remember an addition
and subtraction. And what I tell them, and I know
this might be sound like a cheap, but it's really not,

(10:02):
is have you ever thought of having it visually in
your classroom? Stick the multiplication tables on the wall, let
the kids refer to it, even if it's just like
you know, you don't have to do the division tables.
But if the multiplication tables are on the wall and

(10:22):
the kids can refer to it, what's the harm. Believe me,
them looking at that day in and day out, it's
going to sink in. It did for my kids. I
tried that and it worked like a charm that they
are very good with math and multiplying and everything, but
at first they weren't. And it's okay to do that.

(10:46):
And if they can learn the basics then they can
learn the more advanced but have it visually laminate, you know,
the multiplication tables. Put them on the wall. It's very
inexpensive and it really does help. I'll turn it back
over to Cada now. She's going to share a little
bit more about teaching textbooks with you and info on

(11:09):
Rod's staff.

Speaker 2 (11:11):
Thank you, Pamela. So just a summarize the information Pamela
is shared with the audience about teaching textbooks. Teaching textbooks
can be found at ww dot teachingtextbooks dot com for
more information. They have resources to help and you teach
yourself maths or to help you teach your child maths
if you choose the homeschool. They have workbooks and cdroms

(11:34):
available for purchase. They also have placement exams to see
what level the individual is on before going ahead and
developing those math skills. They ship free to all addresses
in the United States and Canada. The process goes as
follows as a three step process. One is to watch

(11:55):
the lesson that provided for you on the cd ROMs,
choose to complete the problem, and three is to watch
the tator explain the ones you missed. And as Pamela said,
you can go in any order that you want to.
This is just a suggestion from the organization. Also, ordering
can not only just be done online at teaching Textbooks

(12:15):
dot Com, but it can also be done through the
phone and their number is one eight sixty six eight
six seven six two eight four. Or it can be
ordered through the mail, which is also fan byline, or
you can go to your local post office and send
a request to Teaching Textbooks sixty seven one zero N

(12:39):
period class in Boulevard. Class in is c L A
S S E N Boulevard in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma, zip
code seven three one one six. The curriculum at Teaching
Textbooks is designed specifically for independent learners. There's more teaching
and explanation for homeschoolers. It uses simplified language so students

(13:03):
can understand. As Pamela says, it makes maths very simple. Also,
Teaching Textbooks is available whenever you are available. There's no
set time and can be accessed right from home. Each
textbook is between six hundred and fifty and seven hundred
and fifty pages long and contain about one hundred and
thirty lessons. Tutors are available over the phone. If the

(13:25):
student continues to have difficulties pass the solutions in the
CDs and books, and practice problems and short homework assignments
are available as well as real world application problems. Not
to move over to run and Staff maths. I'm sorry, Pamela,
do you want to say something.

Speaker 3 (13:49):
Well, I could add though, that we do have the
both of these curriculums in our library. We have the
teaching textbook for our teachers to use, and then we got
permission from the company to be able to make copies,
so we do have almost the complete set of teaching
textbooks in our library. And then we do have quite

(14:13):
a few of the Rotten Staff grades along with the
back of Bob Jones curriculum, and we have a lot
of that in our library too.

Speaker 2 (14:18):
Just to mention, okay, I'm continuing on to Roden Staff math.
The articulum consists of assessment tests to determine the child's
grade level. Also lower grades focused on mastering the basic
arithms tech in order to move on to higher grade levels.
Teachers manuals are also available that include correct answers to

(14:39):
student exercises, a copy of the student textbook page, the
purpose of a lesson, and oral exercises in questions. There
are also textbook books to see if the child is
making improvements. Broaden Staff Math contains services for homeschooling, such
as teachers manuals designed with the beginning teacher or in mind.

(15:01):
Books may be ordered individually as needed. Telephone consultation for
curriculum assistance is available on weekdays from eight am to
five pm Eastern Standard Time at six zero six five
two two four three four eight. They're also some testimonials
to Rod and Staff. I'll just read one of them

(15:23):
since there are many from ar Kansas, Arkansas in twenty twelve,
the customers states we started homeschooling this fall and used
Roden Staff books for maths, reading, English, and spelling. I
am very impressed with the quality and the value of
the products. There are much more difficult and in depth

(15:44):
than what my daughter was learning at public school. I
showed my daughter's reading book to a friend yesterday and
she was very impressed. She also couldn't believe how inexpensive
the reading program was. Thank you for making these books
available to online shoppers so they also rotten staff. Math
has also other curriculum available, not only maths, if one

(16:04):
is interested in doing that as well. At this time,
would just like to say if anyone in the audience
wants to share their experience with teaching their children, either
at home a math curriculum, or their experience helping their
student or their child learn math better, whether or not
they attended a public high school or taught at home,

(16:27):
definitely you are welcome to call in at three four
seven six, three three nine two two five and chat
with us if there are you know, while we're waiting
for college, we can read some more testimonials from teaching textbooks.
Matt m in Norman, Oklahoma said, I made a perfect

(16:50):
score on the math portions of both the SAT and
the ACAT. Teaching textbooks covers all of the topics on
these exams and gives you conceptualunderstanding that you need to
thrive as a future engineer. I suppose, in Math's case,
he wanted to be an engineer. I'm not sure how
to pronounce this name, so I apologize. Zia or Zia M.

(17:11):
In Phoenix, Arizona states that she was a pre med
student at Johns Hopkins and in her view, teaching Textbooks
is the best best math program for people who are
planning a career in medicine. Catherine L. From pro Utah
states that I'm almost fifty years old. My return to

(17:32):
college necessitates that I learned algebra one, something I always
avoided because I was told over and over again by
teachers that you aren't any good at maths. Oh yeah,
because you are good at English. It's interesting statement. Well,
she says that now she's proving them wrong, and she

(17:55):
is thankful to teaching textbooks for giving her the confidence
she always left. And more surprisingly, I love for algebra,
so it's amazing that it's helped so many people in
different backgrounds to do very well.

Speaker 3 (18:09):
Yeah that speaks volumes, doesn't it.

Speaker 2 (18:14):
M definitely.

Speaker 3 (18:16):
I did check on their site real quickly, and they
go up the pre calculus, so they're not in the
calculus regular calculus yet, but they go from third grade
all the way up. And there are demos online too
that show examples of their lessons. Awesome.

Speaker 2 (18:33):
And for Roden staff math, do you know what their
curriculum goes up to?

Speaker 3 (18:37):
Oh, I'm pretty sure that I can look real quick.
While you're reading, you can read some more testimonials and
I'll check that out, okay.

Speaker 2 (18:46):
Further testimonials from Patricia Pe from Clayton, North Carolina states
that teaching textbooks has been a life changing experience for
her son. BEVP from Houston, Texas states, we tried several
different algebra programs with no success before we found teaching textbooks.
By far, our teaching textbooks is the best of all

(19:08):
of them. For my son, teaching textbooks gave him back
his confidence. Janet R. From Indianapolis, Indiana states that teaching
textbooks makes mas a joy again. It's great. Caronel from
Cave Springs, Arkansas, Arizona Sorry, states that I'm understanding all

(19:32):
the things that none of my high school or college
teachers were ever able to get across to me. I
finally get it. Exclamation points, thank you for the excellent program.
It seems that you know this program has definitely affected
so many people in excellent way. Is amazing. I might
even use it in college because I know that I

(19:54):
have sometimes difficulties with my higher calculus classes, so it's
great to have these resis ursus amazingly help you. I
really do awesome. Donna B. From Jacksonville, Florida, states that
we're using the Algebra one series that you wrote and
love it. This has been the best mask program we've

(20:17):
ever used in bar None in nine years we've homeschooled,
So this is the best program that's worked for them
as well as you stated worked for you. Alan and
Jane and g in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma State. That is
like they sent an instructor to our home in a box.
Our daughter loves it. Sherry E. From Winter Springs, Florida

(20:41):
says that I'm so satisfied with your Algebra one program.
I just have to let you know. After being stuck
in pre alg in pre algebra with another popular homeschool
math program for almost two years, my son is finally
understanding algebra. He has challenged with dyslexia, and math has
always been so difficult both for him the student and

(21:02):
me as his teacher. This year has been a breath
of fresh air with your program. Your lecture CD is
so easy to follow that we both no longer dread
our math lessons together. Having all the solutions on CD
is an added bonus. Some of the programs as see
you know a step or completely skip over it when
showing the solution in their manual, there's leaves you still

(21:25):
not understanding how they arrived at the answer. Your lecture
and practice CDs covers each and every step, constantly reinforcing
previous learned rules. I can't thank you enough.

Speaker 3 (21:36):
Wows me in.

Speaker 2 (21:41):
Some professional reviews of teaching textbooks include one from John Holtzman,
co owner of Sunlight, in spring of two thousand and
six stated teaching textbooks are simply without peer. Their thoroughness
is beyond anything we've seen anywhere. No other programs can
compete with them, especially for pre algebra, Algebra one, Algebra two,

(22:04):
and geometry. And Kathy Kathy Duffy in spring two thousand
and five stated that teaching textbook courses definitely raped at
the top of my list. They would have been included
in the top one hundred picks if I had seen them.
These fantastic courses were designed specifically for homeschoolers to solve
some of the issues that math makes challenging for homeschooling

(22:27):
parents and teens. So it's quite revered by both professionals
and customers because it's really beneficial to give it a
try if you or your child is having maths difficulties,
whether you're homeing, homeschooling or not.

Speaker 3 (22:45):
It seems like when I was after I had used
it and I had worked it into a grant and
I got a grant to cover all the levels, and
that was from Verizon Foundation that they gave us money
to purchase all the books, and then I had to

(23:07):
go here in Town two to define their foundation. I
talked about it there and I shared some of the
reviews and in general, when you're going to have a foundation,
I mean, they don't look to help homeschoolers necessarily, but
since we help homeschoolers, charter school and public school kids.
You know, I went in with this homeschool curriculum that

(23:29):
was designed for homeschoolers, and I talked about it just
like these people are talking about it. And that's how
we got a grant to cover the curriculum. So it
speaks volumes on how good this curriculum is. The people
that wouldn't even necessarily look at a homeschool curriculum to say,

(23:50):
for me to go in and say to them, we
want to use this as the main mass curriculum for
tutoring kids that need help or adults whatever, and them
to also see the benefit and give us the money
to cover every grade level that's volumes too. So we

(24:10):
really believe in this curriculum and I'd stand by that
just like these people are standing.

Speaker 2 (24:14):
By it definitely. And you know, like Pamla said, is
really a personal choice which one you'd like to choose,
whether it be teaching textbooks, Roden Staff maths, or any
other curriculum that you find. These are just suggestions for
what Pamla's found works the best. But I'm not sure

(24:35):
I know that you mentioned that teaching text was a
little bit expensive. It seems that in the testimonials for
a Rod and Staff math that is a little bit
more affordable if one is looking for it's less extensive
way of teaching their children. Do you know how much
it costs for which one teaching text God Staff, oh

(24:59):
Ron Staff.

Speaker 3 (25:00):
Boy, you can get a set of that for probably
twenty twenty five dollars. Compared to the used teaching textbooks,
you're looking at about one hundred and forty five dollars
but I mean with Roden Staff, you're not getting a
disc and you're not getting that extra professor, that extra
health's going to help you. So it depends as the parent.

(25:22):
If you're not afraid to teach math, and you can
explain things to your kids, then finding Dandy another one
of these may be great. But if you're one of
those parents that cannot teach math to your kids and
you went a homeschool, there's nothing better out there than
teaching textbooks in my opinion. Now I did look up
Roden Staff, and this is maybe why I left rod

(25:45):
and Staff to try teaching textbook in the first place.
I didn't remember this, but they go from grade one
through grade nine, and like I said, I believe we
started teaching textbooks by eleventh twelfth grade. I don't remember
doing it in tenth grade, but I wrong. But anyways,
they only go up to ninth grade and Ron Staff
math and you know they start with beginning algebra and

(26:09):
then they go let me see, I know they say
grade eight math, grade nine. They do have a grade
ten math, but it says like like grade nine is
grade ten. Also it looks like because it has it together,
but it's not listed Grade ten is not listed as
a grade that they offer, so it must not be

(26:33):
that that involved, because it says grade nine and ten
record record keeping for Christian Stewardships. That's what they call that.
And then they have like a bunch of a flash
card sets, training sets, clock training, click cock dice. Yeah,

(26:58):
so I don't think they have anything really for grade ten,
and that's probably why I started looking for another curriculum.
And you know, teaching textbooks they you know, do the
algebra and the pre calculus and the things that you
would need more help with.

Speaker 2 (27:17):
So yeah, so like you said, it depends on what
you want and how comfortable you are with the curriculum
that's being taught.

Speaker 3 (27:27):
Yeah, And I'm looking here at grade one in mass
for Roden Staff and I believe I'm on their site
Milestone books dot com, Roden Staff Books and more, and
it says that just for grade one, just an idea,
and usually things get more expensive as your kids get older.

(27:48):
But workbook one with six ninety five Workbook two with
six ninety five speed drills are four dollars ninety cents,
and teachers manuals were twenty dollars and ninety five cents.
So let me see if I can get a price
for Grade nine. I attend the record keeping book, Pupil

(28:14):
Textbook twenty ninety five, Workbook one ten fifty, Workbook two
seven seventy five past four dollars twenty five cents, and
then your Teacher's Manual twenty three ninety five. So you
know you're talking forty fifty dollars. But again you could
be able to get it cheaper on Amazon or something
like that. So just s just.

Speaker 2 (28:39):
Awesome. Well, I hope that these information on these resources
has helped those who are listening if they're struggling with
maths or have students who are struggling with maths. While
we have a little bit of time, and I just
like to let the audience know about our next show.
Our next show will be on Rosearias is an organization

(29:02):
that dedicates it time to improve the quality of education
in impoverished areas of the Philippines and to distribute books
and school supplies to these areas. We'll be talking with
the founder, Samona Blahas and interviewing her about her organization
and giving you opportunities to help out. Thank you again

(29:23):
for tuning in, and thank you Pamela for hosting with me.

Speaker 3 (29:27):
Thank you, great job.

Speaker 2 (29:30):
Have a good night.

Speaker 3 (29:31):
Have a good night everyone.

Speaker 4 (29:36):
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