October 12, 2023 • 31 mins
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When was the last time you had a heart-to-heart with a radio veteran? Get ready to be swept away by Nik’s riveting tales from her 30-year-long journey in the radio and records industry. From her early days growing up amidst the rustic charm of Montana, through her international escapades, and all the way to her transformative experiences that led her to where she is today. The story of trading a cow for an old 1924 Fisher of Bright Piano is just one of Nik’s many fascinating anecdotes.
Nik, the Founder of Bandkind, talks about the ins and outs of the industry, exploring the impact of her rural roots on her career and the incredible opportunities that came her way. She talks about her role in re-identifying a band’s music and partnering with TobyMac to create inspiring music. Every twist and turn, challenge and triumph, is a testament to her incredible resilience and unwavering passion.
In Nik’s journey, the transformative power of faith is a constant theme. As we wrap up our conversation, we reflect on how her faith guided her through her trials and triumphs. This episode is a celebration of life transformations, a narrative of finding one’s purpose, and a testament to the magic of music and radio. Don't miss out on this enlightening conversation!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
But welcome to today's podcast replay from the
Killer B Studios.
Let's go ahead and dive on in.
All right, so we're going to betalking about transformations.
Yeah, now I'm going to askeverybody here, by throwing some
confetti, how many of you herewould say that your life has
changed a lot since you wereyounger?
Anybody, anybody with someconfetti?
(00:22):
Okay, yeah, okay, yeah, okay.
Everybody, see everybody'shands.
You're a band kind.
You should definitely look itup.
She's probably going to talkabout that.
She's been in the radioindustry for I don't know how
long, but she's got a reallycool story, so I'm not going to
try to tell it to you all.
I want her to tell it.
So, arcane, can you go aheadand cue that guest intro and
(00:43):
let's welcome out with someconfetti.
Dick, come on out, let's see ifshe can make it.
Yeah, there she is.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Oh, she like ran into me out here, she made it.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Oh, here I am, she made it, she made it, she did a
good job, good job.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Like a pro.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
So you guys have to understand, like her meta age,
as you can see, she's kind oflike wobbing out here.
She's not been drinking at thepub and at the British pub
before she came, she's juststill getting used to her
control.
That's all that's going on,right?
I was watching where she was atin the world.
It tells me where she's hoppingaround, so I'm going to give
her a little space, becauseshe's going to be like oh, I'm
(01:24):
going to be here, there we go,I'm going to stand right here.
So that way I give her a littlebit of space, exactly.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Exactly.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
All right, well, thanks for joining us, nick.
Thank you for joining us.
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Thank you so much for having me.
I have been enjoying all thisbeautiful horizon world.
It's been so fun to be here.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Well, we can't wait, like fun's just beginning,
because this is what it's allabout.
You know, you get it.
You're going to get toexperience.
This is her real first, likereal time experience in the
metaverse, doing a show andeverything like that.
That's where, like, this isgoing to be great, because she's
going to get to know whathorizons the community is all
about as you guys get to hearher story and her.
You got legs.
You don't even you don't reallyknow what much it's like by
(02:03):
legs.
So that's that's pretty cool,all right.
So, nick, a lot of people herethey might not know who you are,
so can you take about?
Let's take about 30 seconds andjust tell us a little bit about
who Nick is, who is.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
Nick.
Wow, that is a loaded question.
I'm so glad you guys are allhere.
It's been so fun to just kindof meet a couple of you guys out
in the the grass area and bythe fire pit.
And who am I?
I am a person that's been inradio and records for 30 years
(02:38):
and that encompasses a lot ofdifferent jobs.
And it's been it's been a lotof tour bus lifestyle, a lot of
listening to music and a lot oftelling people about it, so I'm
glad to be here tonight.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Awesome.
We're super glad to hear whatare some of the things you've
you've done in radio.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
Well, I was the music director, and what it means to
do to be a music director isyou're listening to songs.
You're listening to music inthe context of brand new music
and older music and how, whenyou're listening to the radio is
not just all brand new songs,you know, and so it gives you an
experience.
And so, as a music director, Idid that.
(03:19):
I also did a lot of audioediting, which I love.
I love editing so much.
It's one of my favorite thingsand then, just, you know,
talking to the artists andhelping them get their music
heard Awesome.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Yes, I love that, I love it.
Well, when I when I talk to youtoo about coming out, I was
like, yeah, I want you to comeexperience because you know,
again, nick has got some artiststhat's lined up that's going to
be coming out here pretty soontoo.
I know we're talking about evenmaybe like a Christmas concert
that's going to happen here,which is going to be really cool
.
We were waiting to see, waitingto see.
So I thought it was great forher first off to come experience
(03:57):
this, because then it helps herto be able to share with the
artists and stuff that you'retalking, to help explain what's
that, what this is actually like, because until you put the
headset on, you really don'tknow.
Right, you don't know.
No, it's an eye opener, not atall.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Not at all, and I know you guys are total pros at
this.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Yeah, we're you know.
Yeah, Mrs Killer B's, you'redoing really good.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Oh, thanks, mr Killer B and Arcane and a lot of other
people here are pros, but I'mstill learning Like I run into
walls and stuff like that allthe time.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
So when I, when I asked her also to come out, I
told her I was like you know,what I love about the studio is
this is a place for us to cometogether, connect to people and
share real life experiences,like what's something that is
you're passionate about, thathas been an important thing in
your life that you would like toshare, is it?
You know, the challenge orstruggle?
And when we were talking, shesaid I would like to come talk
about life transformations.
I'm like that sounds cool,because she said she's had a lot
(04:52):
, and so I'm like this would begreat to have you come and share
with us.
So I kind of wanted to paintthis, like paint the scene a
little bit, so you guys knewwhere she was at.
Right now we're going to getback to that, but okay, so let's
, let's rewind a little bit here.
Nick, maybe you can take usback to a time before you got
into radio.
What was life like in rewind?
Speaker 3 (05:16):
Yeah, really, really rewind.
I don't know about it.
Wow, I mean, music wasimportant to me in growing up in
Montana.
Anybody have any experiencewith Montana out there, throw me
some confetti.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Ah, good soldier, Good soldier, yeah awesome.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Not me not yet, but I will Not yet it's on the bucket
list.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Now, yeah, it's on the bucket list.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
So just growing up in an atmosphere very rural where
farmers and ranchers would cometogether and play music, and it
was interesting because you'dhear them, you know, maybe in
the context of church on Sundayor just hanging out at the
granaries or something like that, but hearing them actually play
(06:10):
music is what changed myperception about what people
could do with music, and sothat's going way, way back.
So I knew that I wanted to beinvolved in that and so I
started making radio shows.
I started doing countdown showswhen I was a little girl and
also had my younger brother comein and he would do commercials.
(06:33):
He would make commercials withme, and so it was really, really
special to feel like you coulddo something.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
What did you do in Montana?
Speaker 3 (06:46):
Yes, I was a sheep herder in real life.
Real life sheep herder Wow.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Do you have any other sheep herders here in the
audience, any other?
Speaker 3 (06:53):
sheep herders.
Yes, well, mrs Killer B justasked me at what age I started,
and probably around eight, and Ijust continued to herd sheep
and we spent a lot of time, alot of nights, where I just
slept in the barn with the sheepand it was really a beautiful
experience, you know.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
How many sheep did you have?
How many Well?
Speaker 3 (07:18):
yeah, we at one point had hundreds, but my mother
worked on a ranch.
They had 10,000.
Wow, that's a lot of sheep.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
That had to smell lovely.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Yeah, I have to imagine that that experience had
to give you so much insightinto the Bible and all of the
different talk about, you know,leading the flock and you know
David, you know, was out withthe sheep and it had to give you
just such a, you know, clearpicture of what they're trying
to tell us.
(07:51):
You know, and if you've neverhad any experience like that
which now at this point, I'vehad some experience with goats,
but before all that you knowthere's so much that you just
can't know about what it's liketo be a shepherd, unless you've
done it or known somebody whodid that right.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
It's absolutely true and Mrs Killer Bee's right, you
know.
I mean there's a lot of stuffin the Psalms and in the Bible
and really First and SecondSamuel is some of my favorite
parts.
David I just think he's afantastic individual in the
Bible that I really look up tofor a lot of different reasons,
but I resonate with him as ashepherd and as a very young boy
(08:31):
as a shepherd, and so it was.
And of course, music you have alot of time that you're out
there with sheep and you justyou're singing, you reflect on
music and you sing to the sheepand it becomes Sing to the sheep
.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
It helps Like.
Does it help with the sheep?
Of course, yes, soothe them.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
Yeah, they hear the voice of the shepherd.
And so it's pretty special.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
If you're Okay, I do got to ask this question Is
female shepherds calledshepherds or are they called
something different?
Speaker 3 (09:05):
I don't really know Shepherdess, shepherdess,
shepherdess, shepherdess,shepherdess.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Okay, not you, not with a T, darling, though You're
saying a T at the end.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
Oh shepherd Shepherdess.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Shepherdess.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
Like S.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Shepherdess, shepherdess, okay.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
There you go, yes, okay, so here you are, so I'm
trying to piece this storytogether.
So you're young.
You said it started like whenyou're eight and you were
singing to the sheep too.
Is that where you're?
You started realizing you hadlike a love for like music and
radio, like, how did that comeabout into your story?
Speaker 3 (09:40):
Yeah, I, From about that same time I started
studying Japanese Suzuki pianooh wow.
And I actually had a sheep thatyou know would sort of lead the
flock and so I would walk withthat sheep.
But I ended up I had a cow aswell.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
We had a lot of different things.
Speaking of Mrs Killer Bee'slanguage right now.
Just what's a fat cow?
Oh gosh, we had sort of an old.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
McDonald's farm situation.
I traded the cow for a pianowhich I still have to this day.
It's a 1924 Fisher of BrightPiano.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
I thought you were talking about the cow.
Like you still got the cowtoday.
Okay, the piano.
You still have the piano, okay.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Yes, all right, that makes more sense.
I was like, wow, thank you forthat.
That's amazing and it was madein New.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
York, yes.
Oh, so very very special to me,but I played that in studying
Suzuki piano, which is a JeffJapanese method of listening to
music and then emulating whatyou hear.
And just the more and more youlisten to it, the more and more
it becomes part of the fabric ofyour thinking and you're able
(10:56):
to you're able to play that Isthat like playing.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Okay, so I play bass guitar or I play bass guitar,
acoustic and all that stuff, butI can't read a lick of music, I
play by ear.
So is that kind of like?
Is that kind of like, say,women, because?
So tell me what was calledagain, because that sounded
really fancy instead of saying Iplay by ear.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
It's named after whoops.
Sorry, I need to close out ofthis.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Oh, you're coined out , yeah, so just hit your right
button.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
There you go.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
There you go.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
Okay so.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Japanese Suzuki.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
Yes, and that's the name of the, the man that kind
of came up with that.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
Yeah, yeah, so instead of that, play by ear.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
You can say I listened to the music until it
becomes a fabric in the fabricof my thinking.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
Yeah, I'm not gonna remember that at all.
I'm not gonna remember.
I'll just say, I play by ear.
I'm gonna totally tear that up,okay, so that's, that's really
cool.
Do you still play that pianotoday then too, or is it more of
like?
Speaker 3 (11:59):
I do have it.
I don't play it very much.
Yeah, I should I really shouldbut I don't, but, but that is.
That is about the same time,and and I began to study music
and listen to it and and, andand do different things with it,
and obviously you know thatplayed into my career later in
radio, and these two thingstogether I didn't realize, but
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that led me to a job at a recordcompany.
Even so, it's just so strangethat.
Very beginning can be this lifetransformation that you never
would have thought.
Was anything that could besomething that would be in your
life is the rest of your familymusical my no.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
I would definitely say your musical, definitely.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
My stepfather.
He is a composer and we havealways had a Grand concert,
grand piano in our house that heplays constantly.
Oh, wow, continues to composemusic today.
He has for my entire life, yeahthat's amazing.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Is there anybody here in the audience?
Was confetti that, let us know.
Like, do you guys?
Does anybody in here play amusical instrument?
Let us know.
By throwing some confetti.
Oh, we see, nerf.
Yeah, I'm here.
Dinner, oh, hey, dinner, Ithink.
Is that DJ?
No, that's somebody, I don'tknow who.
The other person up, everybodysaw a hand raised.
I just can't see their namebadge.
Wow, that's awesome.
Anybody on this side?
Speaker 2 (13:33):
DJ Jack.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
DJ Jack Okay, awesome , wow, that's cool.
Hey, thanks for joining us.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
Hitch bow, it's I could barely turn on the radio,
so I Okay, so.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
So you play music and stuff.
So what was like your firstentrance into like radio?
Where does that start?
Speaker 3 (13:55):
I actually went to College in Southern California
for broadcasting and I knew thatI wanted to do that.
You know, I even from whatmaking those radio shows in my,
you know, in my, in my room.
I knew that that's what Iwanted to do, and so I went to
school for it and then ended upgetting a job in Maine, which
was really, really fun thing and.
(14:17):
Volunteered at that radiostation that had just started.
It was a Christian radiostation and they were looking
for people to come along andhelp, and then, in a very short
period of time, they invited meto be part of the morning show
and it was called the blonde andwhat's his name, which was
super fun, and so he had such agood dynamic.
Yeah, it was really really fun.
(14:38):
I loved it.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
It's cool.
I love that name.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
Yeah, yeah, it gave me this.
Then I was like an excitementto what I had studied, so I
wanted to do more of it.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Oh, I love it, I love it.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
How old were you when you got that first job in radio
?
19, wow so like.
By the time you were 19, youhad already been Living in
Montana, went to school inCalifornia and then moved to
Maine.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
Yeah, and in between those times I had also lived in
Mexico for a little bit and inYokohama, japan, which was
really, really fun, becausegoing back to the country that
actually Was connected to themusic and how I studied and how
I learned music was reallySatisfying that's fascinating,
(15:31):
that is cool.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
That is cool.
My son wants to go to or came.
He wants to go to japan.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
He wants to go to japan.
Well, I want to go with him.
By the way, bucket list it's.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
Yeah, I guess that her bucket list is like you ever
seen, like those big watertowers, like that's like, really
, it's like, that's like.
That's like a quarter of herbucket list.
Is anybody in here everybody,anybody in here been to japan
before?
Anybody?
Oh, uh, uh, it's like.
It's like skylar, skylar,awesome, wow, that's amazing.
(16:02):
That's cool.
So what about your big break inradio?
Like, was there a moment thatyou would say this is your, this
was my big break, that it, andhow did it play a role in the
transformation of your life?
Speaker 3 (16:14):
That's a great question, and and If I would
have said no, I can't imaginewhere my life would have gone.
But, I was on the radio oneafternoon playing music and I
got a phone call and usually thephone call rings for requests,
right, song requests.
(16:34):
But this time it was somebodyfrom a record company, a
marketing Manager, and he saidto me Would you be interested in
coming on and working for aband that is trying to
re-identify their music andtheir who they are as a band?
Speaker 1 (16:57):
Really.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
I was like I don't know, I don't know how to do it,
I'm probably going to be on theradio side and they said we
want you to work radio.
It's fine if you're on theradio side, but we need somebody
from radio to come alongside usfor this.
I said I'll give it a go.
Yes, and because of thatdecision I ended up working with
(17:24):
so many incredible people in myindustry and really was able to
use that Suzuki piano listeningto music and being able to work
on radio singles before theywere sent out and connecting
radio people together on a songand really lifting up the art
(17:48):
that bands were making.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Isn't it cool how I don't know if you guys and maybe
you guys let me know ifconfetti, if you guys have
noticed this but you're justsharing that?
Isn't it crazy?
Like you go through times inyour life and we're talking
about life transformations andsometimes we're in different
seasons and we're wondering why,why am I going through this
right now, like why am I hereand you're talking about now
like OK, I don't know.
(18:11):
I don't know if you can share,like who this was that you
helped out on tour and stuffwith.
But as you started going downthis path, you're saying you
know, well, I'm like kind oflike the radio, so I've never
really done that, but then you,you got that opportunity to go
there and you're using all theskills that you were doing and
learning beforehand, before youeven got into radio.
Isn't it beautiful how it allpieces together?
(18:31):
But were there moments that youwere thinking I don't know why
I'm doing this or where this isgoing to go?
Speaker 3 (18:38):
Yeah, it really really was like that it was.
And yeah, it has anybody.
This is going to go back a longways, but I'll ask is has
anybody here ever heard of theband DC talk?
Oh, yeah, dc talk.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
Yeah, ok, now they're not together anymore, but who
are some of the members of DCtalk that they might know today?
Speaker 3 (19:03):
OK, well, you probably know Michael Tate from.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
Yeah, michael Tate, yeah, michael Tate yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
And then you probably know Toby Mac, right yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Toby yeah, you know.
Toby Mac yeah, Also also.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
So Toby Mac really was the the one who had a vision
for the band DC talk and hadgoals that he was going to do,
and it was writing music andputting music together.
And so he and I encounteredeach other in this space where
they were reinventing themselves.
(19:39):
I was coming into atransformation in my personal
life and going from radio toworking with radio on music, and
and so Toby and I spent a lotof time really working together
to make songs that would have,uh, radio airplay that would
(20:00):
make a difference in people'slives, right Wow that's amazing
Music making a difference.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
Yes, that is amazing.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
Yeah, I think that's really amazing to hear and like.
Toby's songs, even to this dayare so powerful, and it's
amazing that, like you got topartner with him in that, like
you know, his songs are reallyum, I mean, life changing.
They really are.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Powerful and deep and raw, you know, and so that's
that's really amazing.
I didn't know that's where thisstory was going to go, see, I
only knew part of it and Ididn't realize that DC talk was
um was where that started.
So that's awesome.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
Yeah, yeah, wow, yeah .
And they hadn't been a bandvery long before I came
alongside what they were doingand, um, some of my absolute
favorite memories are, umsitting in a rehearsal hall,
seeing DC talk on the stage andhaving them sing and rehearse
and, of course, kevin Max issuch an amazing vocalist and
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they would just continue torepeat these phrases until they
got them right and what itturned into was like a beautiful
worship experience.
Um, and so they, they wouldn'tnecessarily, they would never be
called a worship band Sure.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
Right.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
However, um I have been in many sessions where
worship has definitely happened.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
Wow, that's cool, it's very it's cool, that's
awesome, that's awesome.
All right, I think that weprobably have the audience,
probably have some questions.
You're doing awesome over there, arcane.
Thanks for snapping some photos, don't forget.
You guys snap your killerselfies and post them, so you
have some chances to win some ofthose gift cards.
Arcane, let's go ahead andbring up the Q and a mic.
Let's give some time here forthe audience.
Did you guys have thoughts orquestions?
(21:48):
One person at a time can comein the can come in the mic area.
Just come on down.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
How you had mentioned like the farmers would like
sing and play their instrumentsin Montana.
What type of music were theytypically singing?
Speaker 3 (22:00):
like folk or yeah, that's a great question.
Um, most of the time they werejust singing country and uh,
just, you know country music,old country music.
Um, what is it then?
Speaker 2 (22:14):
that led you to more of the Christian side of the
radio industry.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
Um I?
Great question.
I?
Um, we grew up as a family thatalways went to church, you know
, um, and I and I just um, youknow prayed a lot.
I uh lost my father when I wasfour years old, and so I had
come to a place where I was uhdesperately alone and in need of
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answers, um which, of course,my grieving mother could not
have answered for me.
And in in some beautiful wayand it was actually through uh
bus ministry in Seattle thatwould come by, pick me up on the
bus and take me to church, andum and I accepted Jesus Christ
(23:06):
as my personal savior because Iknew I didn't want to be living
life without him.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
Nick that was my first um experience with Jesus,
too, is from a bus ministry.
Yeah, my mom would send me offon the bus to church and I, you
know, go happily.
I loved it and yeah, so that'sthat's amazing yes praise God.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
What happened to your dad?
You said you lost him.
Oh, it's an easy.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
It's an easy answer he um.
He was killed in a motorcyclewreck.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
Oh really, he wrecked his motorcycle.
Oh, my goodness yeah.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
He uh, he had made a decision to um not only ride his
motorcycle um after a fight,but after he had drank too many
drinks and uh.
It led to the end of his lifeand he was 26 when he died.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
Wow, oh my God, and this is encouraging that people
hear too, hearing the, thetransformation story, because
that's the beautiful thing aboutOur lives right now, if you're
here, your life, your storystill being written, so that
transformation is stillhappening even right now.
Even right now, thattransformation is happening and
(24:19):
it's beautiful how God can useall the pieces, the difficult
seasons, the, the seasons thatare going great, the experiences
that maybe you don't like andyou're like I don't know why I
gotta go through this.
He can use all those to paintsomething beautiful that we
don't even know it's coming.
Yeah, so let's fast-forward totoday, like we're you today now.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
Oh, yes, yeah, well about, let's see.
About a year and a half ago,Maybe a little bit more than
that, I was on the radio and itwas right after COVID and all
that, and I had heard that thehits deep tour.
Has anybody ever heard of hitsdeep to?
Speaker 1 (25:00):
Yeah, dear our girl.
Speaker 3 (25:02):
Yeah, it's hits deep, yeah, and that's so.
You'll know that that's a tourheaded by Toby Mack, and so he.
They had pulled back intoNashville, tennessee, after
going out on tour, like they didbefore COVID-19, and no one got
ill, no one got sick, everyonewas healthy.
(25:23):
And I was live on the radio andI had my mic open and I said I
feel like that tour coming backis one small step for mankind
and I just stopped on the airand I just was like what?
I Think this is something, yeah,and and so from there I Could,
(25:48):
I found out that that nobodyreally had one small step for
mankind, and of course it's aplay on, you know, man landing
on the moon in 1969, and Evenour logo reflects that boot
print.
And I often will ask the bandsthat I interview what, what do
you want your musical footprintto be?
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on this earth, you know.
And so over the last year and ahalf we've been gathering
artist interviews and and justtime together with artists and
helping them Spread the wordabout the good things, about the
kind things they're doing inthe world and really trying to
champion what they're doing.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
Yeah, and there's really really powerful stories
like I encourage all of you togo and look up these interviews,
their video interviews, andNick, your joy and your, you
know beautiful personality andyour fun Just shine through in
those interviews.
And okay, I'm gonna give you atest.
Okay, you don't know very muchabout me, but as I was scrolling
(26:52):
through the videos I was like,oh, I love that artist, I love
that artist, I love that artist.
But there was one that made myheart skip a beat.
Can you guess who it was?
Speaker 3 (27:03):
Hmm, mr Killer B, this is a really tough question.
Okay, I'm gonna go with Jeremycamp.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Oh no, I did not see Jeremy camp.
I Do like Jeremy camp.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
He was one of my first like sorry, jeremy, he's
not coming to killer B studiosnow.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
Thanks, Well, that's okay because if we can get Matt
Mar what a first interview tolisten to you guys because I'm
listening to this interview he'salways very eloquent when he
speaks.
He's very deep thinker, youknow, has just an incredible
(27:41):
perspective, and then he tellsthe story that I'm not gonna
tell you.
Nick started crying in theinterview.
I was sobbing.
I was like Interview isunbelievably good, like you do a
really good job with them andask really thoughtful Questions
and like really kind of get tothe heart of the matter and what
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they're trying to do with theirart.
Just really good job.
It was so beautiful.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
Oh, mrs Killer B, that's so sweet.
I loved that interview and ISpecifically loved that
interview with Matt Mar becauseI had walked in the place where
he had recorded in those ruinsand it was, it was beautiful,
beautiful to be there.
Very special interview, thankyou, it's on your bucket list
(28:30):
right.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
That went on my bucket list you.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
Know you guys, they can.
They can check out thoseinterviews by going to ban kind
comm right.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
Yes, ban kind comm.
Yes, yes.
And if you just look up bankind on any platform, you're
probably gonna run into us on OnInstagram or Facebook or
Spotify or Pandora or whereveryou wherever you listen to
podcasts or watch them orConnect.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
Yeah, and we'll put a link.
If you're listening to the shownotes, if you listen to the
podcast replay, we'll put a linkin the show notes for you too.
So just check it out and youguys can check out Van kind as
well.
Yeah, I love, I love, I lovelike when I was at the radio
station Star, one of the thingsthat I loved was I got to do the
interviews with the artists andI loved it, because One of the
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things I loved not goingstraight to the song, but asking
them to share, like what'sgoing on in their life right now
, because, man, they, they'vegot a lot of stuff to share and
it's good, impactful, justLife-changing stories if we give
them the time, they want toshare it too.
I love that.
So I'm gonna have to go listento some More of them too.
So I love it, that's.
I love your logo.
(29:40):
I love your logo.
It's a great logo, great logo.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
The intro to the videos with the you know
astronaut.
All that I love it.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
Yes, and how it transitions into the artist yeah
yes, thank you guys are gonnacheck it out.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
Bangkinecom, make sure you check it out.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
What's so special about the artists and how they
have music on their heart thatthey're creating.
And then that takes us back toDavid and him shepherding and
how he was creating music thatthen became such a huge part,
important part of the Bible and.
To listen to those songs, tohear read those lyrics that he
(30:19):
wrote so.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
I love it.
We like to ask our guests toshare at the end.
If there was one thing that youwould hope people would walk
away with today, what would itbe?
Speaker 3 (30:29):
Oh gosh, that is a great question.
You know what I'm gonna echowhat mr Killer B said, and that
was that every life in here isin the middle of a
transformation and as youcontinue to live your life, you
will see those things connectthat you have, that you've gone
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through in your life, and theywill be for something even
better.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
Well, hey, thanks for tuning into today's podcast
episode, if you liked.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
Loved today's episode .
Speaker 3 (31:04):
Go ahead and hit the subscribe button or leave us a
review.
But welcome to today's podcast replay from the
Killer B Studios.
Let's go ahead and dive on in.
All right, so we're going to betalking about transformations.
Yeah, now I'm going to askeverybody here, by throwing some
confetti, how many of you herewould say that your life has
changed a lot since you wereyounger?
Anybody, anybody with someconfetti?
(00:22):
Okay, yeah, okay, yeah, okay.
Everybody, see everybody'shands.
You're a band kind.
You should definitely look itup.
She's probably going to talkabout that.
She's been in the radioindustry for I don't know how
long, but she's got a reallycool story, so I'm not going to
try to tell it to you all.
I want her to tell it.
So, arcane, can you go aheadand cue that guest intro and
(00:43):
let's welcome out with someconfetti.
Dick, come on out, let's see ifshe can make it.
Yeah, there she is.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Oh, she like ran into me out here, she made it.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Oh, here I am, she made it, she made it, she did a
good job, good job.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Like a pro.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
So you guys have to understand, like her meta age,
as you can see, she's kind oflike wobbing out here.
She's not been drinking at thepub and at the British pub
before she came, she's juststill getting used to her
control.
That's all that's going on,right?
I was watching where she was atin the world.
It tells me where she's hoppingaround, so I'm going to give
her a little space, becauseshe's going to be like oh, I'm
(01:24):
going to be here, there we go,I'm going to stand right here.
So that way I give her a littlebit of space, exactly.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Exactly.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
All right, well, thanks for joining us, nick.
Thank you for joining us.
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Thank you so much for having me.
I have been enjoying all thisbeautiful horizon world.
It's been so fun to be here.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Well, we can't wait, like fun's just beginning,
because this is what it's allabout.
You know, you get it.
You're going to get toexperience.
This is her real first, likereal time experience in the
metaverse, doing a show andeverything like that.
That's where, like, this isgoing to be great, because she's
going to get to know whathorizons the community is all
about as you guys get to hearher story and her.
You got legs.
You don't even you don't reallyknow what much it's like by
(02:03):
legs.
So that's that's pretty cool,all right.
So, nick, a lot of people herethey might not know who you are,
so can you take about?
Let's take about 30 seconds andjust tell us a little bit about
who Nick is, who is.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
Nick.
Wow, that is a loaded question.
I'm so glad you guys are allhere.
It's been so fun to just kindof meet a couple of you guys out
in the the grass area and bythe fire pit.
And who am I?
I am a person that's been inradio and records for 30 years
(02:38):
and that encompasses a lot ofdifferent jobs.
And it's been it's been a lotof tour bus lifestyle, a lot of
listening to music and a lot oftelling people about it, so I'm
glad to be here tonight.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Awesome.
We're super glad to hear whatare some of the things you've
you've done in radio.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
Well, I was the music director, and what it means to
do to be a music director isyou're listening to songs.
You're listening to music inthe context of brand new music
and older music and how, whenyou're listening to the radio is
not just all brand new songs,you know, and so it gives you an
experience.
And so, as a music director, Idid that.
(03:19):
I also did a lot of audioediting, which I love.
I love editing so much.
It's one of my favorite thingsand then, just, you know,
talking to the artists andhelping them get their music
heard Awesome.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Yes, I love that, I love it.
Well, when I when I talk to youtoo about coming out, I was
like, yeah, I want you to comeexperience because you know,
again, nick has got some artiststhat's lined up that's going to
be coming out here pretty soontoo.
I know we're talking about evenmaybe like a Christmas concert
that's going to happen here,which is going to be really cool
.
We were waiting to see, waitingto see.
So I thought it was great forher first off to come experience
(03:57):
this, because then it helps herto be able to share with the
artists and stuff that you'retalking, to help explain what's
that, what this is actually like, because until you put the
headset on, you really don'tknow.
Right, you don't know.
No, it's an eye opener, not atall.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Not at all, and I know you guys are total pros at
this.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Yeah, we're you know.
Yeah, Mrs Killer B's, you'redoing really good.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Oh, thanks, mr Killer B and Arcane and a lot of other
people here are pros, but I'mstill learning Like I run into
walls and stuff like that allthe time.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
So when I, when I asked her also to come out, I
told her I was like you know,what I love about the studio is
this is a place for us to cometogether, connect to people and
share real life experiences,like what's something that is
you're passionate about, thathas been an important thing in
your life that you would like toshare, is it?
You know, the challenge orstruggle?
And when we were talking, shesaid I would like to come talk
about life transformations.
I'm like that sounds cool,because she said she's had a lot
(04:52):
, and so I'm like this would begreat to have you come and share
with us.
So I kind of wanted to paintthis, like paint the scene a
little bit, so you guys knewwhere she was at.
Right now we're going to getback to that, but okay, so let's
, let's rewind a little bit here.
Nick, maybe you can take usback to a time before you got
into radio.
What was life like in rewind?
Speaker 3 (05:16):
Yeah, really, really rewind.
I don't know about it.
Wow, I mean, music wasimportant to me in growing up in
Montana.
Anybody have any experiencewith Montana out there, throw me
some confetti.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Ah, good soldier, Good soldier, yeah awesome.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Not me not yet, but I will Not yet it's on the bucket
list.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Now, yeah, it's on the bucket list.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
So just growing up in an atmosphere very rural where
farmers and ranchers would cometogether and play music, and it
was interesting because you'dhear them, you know, maybe in
the context of church on Sundayor just hanging out at the
granaries or something like that, but hearing them actually play
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music is what changed myperception about what people
could do with music, and sothat's going way, way back.
So I knew that I wanted to beinvolved in that and so I
started making radio shows.
I started doing countdown showswhen I was a little girl and
also had my younger brother comein and he would do commercials.
(06:33):
He would make commercials withme, and so it was really, really
special to feel like you coulddo something.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
What did you do in Montana?
Speaker 3 (06:46):
Yes, I was a sheep herder in real life.
Real life sheep herder Wow.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Do you have any other sheep herders here in the
audience, any other?
Speaker 3 (06:53):
sheep herders.
Yes, well, mrs Killer B justasked me at what age I started,
and probably around eight, and Ijust continued to herd sheep
and we spent a lot of time, alot of nights, where I just
slept in the barn with the sheepand it was really a beautiful
experience, you know.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
How many sheep did you have?
How many Well?
Speaker 3 (07:18):
yeah, we at one point had hundreds, but my mother
worked on a ranch.
They had 10,000.
Wow, that's a lot of sheep.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
That had to smell lovely.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Yeah, I have to imagine that that experience had
to give you so much insightinto the Bible and all of the
different talk about, you know,leading the flock and you know
David, you know, was out withthe sheep and it had to give you
just such a, you know, clearpicture of what they're trying
to tell us.
(07:51):
You know, and if you've neverhad any experience like that
which now at this point, I'vehad some experience with goats,
but before all that you knowthere's so much that you just
can't know about what it's liketo be a shepherd, unless you've
done it or known somebody whodid that right.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
It's absolutely true and Mrs Killer Bee's right, you
know.
I mean there's a lot of stuffin the Psalms and in the Bible
and really First and SecondSamuel is some of my favorite
parts.
David I just think he's afantastic individual in the
Bible that I really look up tofor a lot of different reasons,
but I resonate with him as ashepherd and as a very young boy
(08:31):
as a shepherd, and so it was.
And of course, music you have alot of time that you're out
there with sheep and you justyou're singing, you reflect on
music and you sing to the sheepand it becomes Sing to the sheep
.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
It helps Like.
Does it help with the sheep?
Of course, yes, soothe them.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
Yeah, they hear the voice of the shepherd.
And so it's pretty special.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
If you're Okay, I do got to ask this question Is
female shepherds calledshepherds or are they called
something different?
Speaker 3 (09:05):
I don't really know Shepherdess, shepherdess,
shepherdess, shepherdess,shepherdess.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Okay, not you, not with a T, darling, though You're
saying a T at the end.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
Oh shepherd Shepherdess.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Shepherdess.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
Like S.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Shepherdess, shepherdess, okay.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
There you go, yes, okay, so here you are, so I'm
trying to piece this storytogether.
So you're young.
You said it started like whenyou're eight and you were
singing to the sheep too.
Is that where you're?
You started realizing you hadlike a love for like music and
radio, like, how did that comeabout into your story?
Speaker 3 (09:40):
Yeah, I, From about that same time I started
studying Japanese Suzuki pianooh wow.
And I actually had a sheep thatyou know would sort of lead the
flock and so I would walk withthat sheep.
But I ended up I had a cow aswell.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
We had a lot of different things.
Speaking of Mrs Killer Bee'slanguage right now.
Just what's a fat cow?
Oh gosh, we had sort of an old.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
McDonald's farm situation.
I traded the cow for a pianowhich I still have to this day.
It's a 1924 Fisher of BrightPiano.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
I thought you were talking about the cow.
Like you still got the cowtoday.
Okay, the piano.
You still have the piano, okay.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Yes, all right, that makes more sense.
I was like, wow, thank you forthat.
That's amazing and it was madein New.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
York, yes.
Oh, so very very special to me,but I played that in studying
Suzuki piano, which is a JeffJapanese method of listening to
music and then emulating whatyou hear.
And just the more and more youlisten to it, the more and more
it becomes part of the fabric ofyour thinking and you're able
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to you're able to play that Isthat like playing.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Okay, so I play bass guitar or I play bass guitar,
acoustic and all that stuff, butI can't read a lick of music, I
play by ear.
So is that kind of like?
Is that kind of like, say,women, because?
So tell me what was calledagain, because that sounded
really fancy instead of saying Iplay by ear.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
It's named after whoops.
Sorry, I need to close out ofthis.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Oh, you're coined out , yeah, so just hit your right
button.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
There you go.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
There you go.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
Okay so.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Japanese Suzuki.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
Yes, and that's the name of the, the man that kind
of came up with that.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
Yeah, yeah, so instead of that, play by ear.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
You can say I listened to the music until it
becomes a fabric in the fabricof my thinking.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
Yeah, I'm not gonna remember that at all.
I'm not gonna remember.
I'll just say, I play by ear.
I'm gonna totally tear that up,okay, so that's, that's really
cool.
Do you still play that pianotoday then too, or is it more of
like?
Speaker 3 (11:59):
I do have it.
I don't play it very much.
Yeah, I should I really shouldbut I don't, but, but that is.
That is about the same time,and and I began to study music
and listen to it and and, andand do different things with it,
and obviously you know thatplayed into my career later in
radio, and these two thingstogether I didn't realize, but
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that led me to a job at a recordcompany.
Even so, it's just so strangethat.
Very beginning can be this lifetransformation that you never
would have thought.
Was anything that could besomething that would be in your
life is the rest of your familymusical my no.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
I would definitely say your musical, definitely.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
My stepfather.
He is a composer and we havealways had a Grand concert,
grand piano in our house that heplays constantly.
Oh, wow, continues to composemusic today.
He has for my entire life, yeahthat's amazing.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Is there anybody here in the audience?
Was confetti that, let us know.
Like, do you guys?
Does anybody in here play amusical instrument?
Let us know.
By throwing some confetti.
Oh, we see, nerf.
Yeah, I'm here.
Dinner, oh, hey, dinner, Ithink.
Is that DJ?
No, that's somebody, I don'tknow who.
The other person up, everybodysaw a hand raised.
I just can't see their namebadge.
Wow, that's awesome.
Anybody on this side?
Speaker 2 (13:33):
DJ Jack.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
DJ Jack Okay, awesome , wow, that's cool.
Hey, thanks for joining us.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
Hitch bow, it's I could barely turn on the radio,
so I Okay, so.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
So you play music and stuff.
So what was like your firstentrance into like radio?
Where does that start?
Speaker 3 (13:55):
I actually went to College in Southern California
for broadcasting and I knew thatI wanted to do that.
You know, I even from whatmaking those radio shows in my,
you know, in my, in my room.
I knew that that's what Iwanted to do, and so I went to
school for it and then ended upgetting a job in Maine, which
was really, really fun thing and.
(14:17):
Volunteered at that radiostation that had just started.
It was a Christian radiostation and they were looking
for people to come along andhelp, and then, in a very short
period of time, they invited meto be part of the morning show
and it was called the blonde andwhat's his name, which was
super fun, and so he had such agood dynamic.
Yeah, it was really really fun.
(14:38):
I loved it.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
It's cool.
I love that name.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
Yeah, yeah, it gave me this.
Then I was like an excitementto what I had studied, so I
wanted to do more of it.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Oh, I love it, I love it.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
How old were you when you got that first job in radio
?
19, wow so like.
By the time you were 19, youhad already been Living in
Montana, went to school inCalifornia and then moved to
Maine.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
Yeah, and in between those times I had also lived in
Mexico for a little bit and inYokohama, japan, which was
really, really fun, becausegoing back to the country that
actually Was connected to themusic and how I studied and how
I learned music was reallySatisfying that's fascinating,
(15:31):
that is cool.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
That is cool.
My son wants to go to or came.
He wants to go to japan.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
He wants to go to japan.
Well, I want to go with him.
By the way, bucket list it's.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
Yeah, I guess that her bucket list is like you ever
seen, like those big watertowers, like that's like, really
, it's like, that's like.
That's like a quarter of herbucket list.
Is anybody in here everybody,anybody in here been to japan
before?
Anybody?
Oh, uh, uh, it's like.
It's like skylar, skylar,awesome, wow, that's amazing.
(16:02):
That's cool.
So what about your big break inradio?
Like, was there a moment thatyou would say this is your, this
was my big break, that it, andhow did it play a role in the
transformation of your life?
Speaker 3 (16:14):
That's a great question, and and If I would
have said no, I can't imaginewhere my life would have gone.
But, I was on the radio oneafternoon playing music and I
got a phone call and usually thephone call rings for requests,
right, song requests.
(16:34):
But this time it was somebodyfrom a record company, a
marketing Manager, and he saidto me Would you be interested in
coming on and working for aband that is trying to
re-identify their music andtheir who they are as a band?
Speaker 1 (16:57):
Really.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
I was like I don't know, I don't know how to do it,
I'm probably going to be on theradio side and they said we
want you to work radio.
It's fine if you're on theradio side, but we need somebody
from radio to come alongside usfor this.
I said I'll give it a go.
Yes, and because of thatdecision I ended up working with
(17:24):
so many incredible people in myindustry and really was able to
use that Suzuki piano listeningto music and being able to work
on radio singles before theywere sent out and connecting
radio people together on a songand really lifting up the art
(17:48):
that bands were making.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Isn't it cool how I don't know if you guys and maybe
you guys let me know ifconfetti, if you guys have
noticed this but you're justsharing that?
Isn't it crazy?
Like you go through times inyour life and we're talking
about life transformations andsometimes we're in different
seasons and we're wondering why,why am I going through this
right now, like why am I hereand you're talking about now
like OK, I don't know.
(18:11):
I don't know if you can share,like who this was that you
helped out on tour and stuffwith.
But as you started going downthis path, you're saying you
know, well, I'm like kind oflike the radio, so I've never
really done that, but then you,you got that opportunity to go
there and you're using all theskills that you were doing and
learning beforehand, before youeven got into radio.
Isn't it beautiful how it allpieces together?
(18:31):
But were there moments that youwere thinking I don't know why
I'm doing this or where this isgoing to go?
Speaker 3 (18:38):
Yeah, it really really was like that it was.
And yeah, it has anybody.
This is going to go back a longways, but I'll ask is has
anybody here ever heard of theband DC talk?
Oh, yeah, dc talk.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
Yeah, ok, now they're not together anymore, but who
are some of the members of DCtalk that they might know today?
Speaker 3 (19:03):
OK, well, you probably know Michael Tate from.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
Yeah, michael Tate, yeah, michael Tate yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
And then you probably know Toby Mac, right yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Toby yeah, you know.
Toby Mac yeah, Also also.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
So Toby Mac really was the the one who had a vision
for the band DC talk and hadgoals that he was going to do,
and it was writing music andputting music together.
And so he and I encounteredeach other in this space where
they were reinventing themselves.
(19:39):
I was coming into atransformation in my personal
life and going from radio toworking with radio on music, and
and so Toby and I spent a lotof time really working together
to make songs that would have,uh, radio airplay that would
(20:00):
make a difference in people'slives, right Wow that's amazing
Music making a difference.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
Yes, that is amazing.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
Yeah, I think that's really amazing to hear and like.
Toby's songs, even to this dayare so powerful, and it's
amazing that, like you got topartner with him in that, like
you know, his songs are reallyum, I mean, life changing.
They really are.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Powerful and deep and raw, you know, and so that's
that's really amazing.
I didn't know that's where thisstory was going to go, see, I
only knew part of it and Ididn't realize that DC talk was
um was where that started.
So that's awesome.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
Yeah, yeah, wow, yeah .
And they hadn't been a bandvery long before I came
alongside what they were doingand, um, some of my absolute
favorite memories are, umsitting in a rehearsal hall,
seeing DC talk on the stage andhaving them sing and rehearse
and, of course, kevin Max issuch an amazing vocalist and
(21:05):
they would just continue torepeat these phrases until they
got them right and what itturned into was like a beautiful
worship experience.
Um, and so they, they wouldn'tnecessarily, they would never be
called a worship band Sure.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
Right.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
However, um I have been in many sessions where
worship has definitely happened.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
Wow, that's cool, it's very it's cool, that's
awesome, that's awesome.
All right, I think that weprobably have the audience,
probably have some questions.
You're doing awesome over there, arcane.
Thanks for snapping some photos, don't forget.
You guys snap your killerselfies and post them, so you
have some chances to win some ofthose gift cards.
Arcane, let's go ahead andbring up the Q and a mic.
Let's give some time here forthe audience.
Did you guys have thoughts orquestions?
(21:48):
One person at a time can comein the can come in the mic area.
Just come on down.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
How you had mentioned like the farmers would like
sing and play their instrumentsin Montana.
What type of music were theytypically singing?
Speaker 3 (22:00):
like folk or yeah, that's a great question.
Um, most of the time they werejust singing country and uh,
just, you know country music,old country music.
Um, what is it then?
Speaker 2 (22:14):
that led you to more of the Christian side of the
radio industry.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
Um I?
Great question.
I?
Um, we grew up as a family thatalways went to church, you know
, um, and I and I just um, youknow prayed a lot.
I uh lost my father when I wasfour years old, and so I had
come to a place where I was uhdesperately alone and in need of
(22:43):
answers, um which, of course,my grieving mother could not
have answered for me.
And in in some beautiful wayand it was actually through uh
bus ministry in Seattle thatwould come by, pick me up on the
bus and take me to church, andum and I accepted Jesus Christ
(23:06):
as my personal savior because Iknew I didn't want to be living
life without him.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
Nick that was my first um experience with Jesus,
too, is from a bus ministry.
Yeah, my mom would send me offon the bus to church and I, you
know, go happily.
I loved it and yeah, so that'sthat's amazing yes praise God.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
What happened to your dad?
You said you lost him.
Oh, it's an easy.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
It's an easy answer he um.
He was killed in a motorcyclewreck.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
Oh really, he wrecked his motorcycle.
Oh, my goodness yeah.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
He uh, he had made a decision to um not only ride his
motorcycle um after a fight,but after he had drank too many
drinks and uh.
It led to the end of his lifeand he was 26 when he died.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
Wow, oh my God, and this is encouraging that people
hear too, hearing the, thetransformation story, because
that's the beautiful thing aboutOur lives right now, if you're
here, your life, your storystill being written, so that
transformation is stillhappening even right now.
Even right now, thattransformation is happening and
(24:19):
it's beautiful how God can useall the pieces, the difficult
seasons, the, the seasons thatare going great, the experiences
that maybe you don't like andyou're like I don't know why I
gotta go through this.
He can use all those to paintsomething beautiful that we
don't even know it's coming.
Yeah, so let's fast-forward totoday, like we're you today now.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
Oh, yes, yeah, well about, let's see.
About a year and a half ago,Maybe a little bit more than
that, I was on the radio and itwas right after COVID and all
that, and I had heard that thehits deep tour.
Has anybody ever heard of hitsdeep to?
Speaker 1 (25:00):
Yeah, dear our girl.
Speaker 3 (25:02):
Yeah, it's hits deep, yeah, and that's so.
You'll know that that's a tourheaded by Toby Mack, and so he.
They had pulled back intoNashville, tennessee, after
going out on tour, like they didbefore COVID-19, and no one got
ill, no one got sick, everyonewas healthy.
(25:23):
And I was live on the radio andI had my mic open and I said I
feel like that tour coming backis one small step for mankind
and I just stopped on the airand I just was like what?
I Think this is something, yeah,and and so from there I Could,
(25:48):
I found out that that nobodyreally had one small step for
mankind, and of course it's aplay on, you know, man landing
on the moon in 1969, and Evenour logo reflects that boot
print.
And I often will ask the bandsthat I interview what, what do
you want your musical footprintto be?
(26:09):
on this earth, you know.
And so over the last year and ahalf we've been gathering
artist interviews and and justtime together with artists and
helping them Spread the wordabout the good things, about the
kind things they're doing inthe world and really trying to
champion what they're doing.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
Yeah, and there's really really powerful stories
like I encourage all of you togo and look up these interviews,
their video interviews, andNick, your joy and your, you
know beautiful personality andyour fun Just shine through in
those interviews.
And okay, I'm gonna give you atest.
Okay, you don't know very muchabout me, but as I was scrolling
(26:52):
through the videos I was like,oh, I love that artist, I love
that artist, I love that artist.
But there was one that made myheart skip a beat.
Can you guess who it was?
Speaker 3 (27:03):
Hmm, mr Killer B, this is a really tough question.
Okay, I'm gonna go with Jeremycamp.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Oh no, I did not see Jeremy camp.
I Do like Jeremy camp.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
He was one of my first like sorry, jeremy, he's
not coming to killer B studiosnow.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
Thanks, Well, that's okay because if we can get Matt
Mar what a first interview tolisten to you guys because I'm
listening to this interview he'salways very eloquent when he
speaks.
He's very deep thinker, youknow, has just an incredible
(27:41):
perspective, and then he tellsthe story that I'm not gonna
tell you.
Nick started crying in theinterview.
I was sobbing.
I was like Interview isunbelievably good, like you do a
really good job with them andask really thoughtful Questions
and like really kind of get tothe heart of the matter and what
(28:02):
they're trying to do with theirart.
Just really good job.
It was so beautiful.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
Oh, mrs Killer B, that's so sweet.
I loved that interview and ISpecifically loved that
interview with Matt Mar becauseI had walked in the place where
he had recorded in those ruinsand it was, it was beautiful,
beautiful to be there.
Very special interview, thankyou, it's on your bucket list
(28:30):
right.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
That went on my bucket list you.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
Know you guys, they can.
They can check out thoseinterviews by going to ban kind
comm right.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
Yes, ban kind comm.
Yes, yes.
And if you just look up bankind on any platform, you're
probably gonna run into us on OnInstagram or Facebook or
Spotify or Pandora or whereveryou wherever you listen to
podcasts or watch them orConnect.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
Yeah, and we'll put a link.
If you're listening to the shownotes, if you listen to the
podcast replay, we'll put a linkin the show notes for you too.
So just check it out and youguys can check out Van kind as
well.
Yeah, I love, I love, I lovelike when I was at the radio
station Star, one of the thingsthat I loved was I got to do the
interviews with the artists andI loved it, because One of the
(29:19):
things I loved not goingstraight to the song, but asking
them to share, like what'sgoing on in their life right now
, because, man, they, they'vegot a lot of stuff to share and
it's good, impactful, justLife-changing stories if we give
them the time, they want toshare it too.
I love that.
So I'm gonna have to go listento some More of them too.
So I love it, that's.
I love your logo.
(29:40):
I love your logo.
It's a great logo, great logo.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
The intro to the videos with the you know
astronaut.
All that I love it.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
Yes, and how it transitions into the artist yeah
yes, thank you guys are gonnacheck it out.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
Bangkinecom, make sure you check it out.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
What's so special about the artists and how they
have music on their heart thatthey're creating.
And then that takes us back toDavid and him shepherding and
how he was creating music thatthen became such a huge part,
important part of the Bible and.
To listen to those songs, tohear read those lyrics that he
(30:19):
wrote so.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
I love it.
We like to ask our guests toshare at the end.
If there was one thing that youwould hope people would walk
away with today, what would itbe?
Speaker 3 (30:29):
Oh gosh, that is a great question.
You know what I'm gonna echowhat mr Killer B said, and that
was that every life in here isin the middle of a
transformation and as youcontinue to live your life, you
will see those things connectthat you have, that you've gone
(30:52):
through in your life, and theywill be for something even
better.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
Well, hey, thanks for tuning into today's podcast
episode, if you liked.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
Loved today's episode .
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