September 14, 2023 • 49 mins
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Imagine what it feels like to face a life-altering diagnosis and come out stronger on the other side. Jennifer Smash, a valiant warrior living with diabetes, shares her heart-touching journey of resilience, strength and acceptance. With the courage to transform her struggles into a source of empowerment, Jen now stands tall as a double amputee, using her experiences to uplift others.
But that's not all. Have you thought about the immense potential the Metaverse holds? Jennifer Smash did, and she shares her exciting venture into this digital frontier. After 30 years of accounting and working with celebrities like Puffy Combs, Public Enemy, The Notorious B.I.G, and she found the courage to reopen her accounting practice in the Metaverse. Today, she's educating entrepreneurs in this virtual world, offering free classes and resources to help them flourish.
To top it off, we're joined by Meta Clean Rupert, another creative force in the Metaverse. He shares his experiences and teaches us valuable lessons about self-belief and the power of helping others. This episode isn't just a conversation; it's a journey into the world of overcoming life’s biggest challenges and seizing opportunities in unexpected realms.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
But welcome to today's podcast replay from the
Killer B Studios.
Let's go ahead and dive on in.
Hey everybody, hey everybody,hey everybody.
Thanks for joining us.
We've got Arkana.
They're shooting the confetticannon.
I like this.
What do you guys think aboutthat confetti cannon?
Can you show us that again?
Arkana?
Let's show that thing off man.
You guys look, keep buildingall this.
(00:22):
You guys throw in some confetti.
If you love the confetti cannon, yeah, awesome, I love that.
Very cool.
I'm super excited for everybodybeing here tonight.
Tonight we have a special guestjoining us.
She is once an account for someof the biggest names in hip hop
and other celebrities.
Jen, would you mind to take 30seconds and let people know that
you might have to make anintense seconds with the way our
(00:42):
experience has been yeah no,tell us a little bit about who
you are and tell us about JenSmash.
Speaker 4 (00:48):
Well, I'm Jennifer Smash.
I'm originally from New Yorkand I have been an accountant
over 30 plus years.
I don't want to say my age, butquite a long time.
I am married for 29 years,three kids and I am a double
amputee and a survivor.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Okay, does anybody here know Jen?
Has anybody ran into Jen Smashhere in Horizon Worlds?
Okay, yeah, we've got you.
Got some fans out here.
Jen, yeah, awesome, awesome,well, jen, okay.
So we're going to start with,we're going to go through Jen's
story and let her share whatshe's doing here in Horizon, but
we want to really hone in onyour story too, get to know more
about you and the life that youknow, the seasons and the
(01:36):
struggles you went through andthe wins, like where you are
today and where you're going.
But tell me, like you say,you're a double amputee Like how
did that start?
Speaker 4 (01:47):
Well, unfortunately, I have what you call the bad
diabetes.
I've been diabetic since I'm 20years old, straight to insulin
and well, the struggles withdiabetes is real.
You know it's.
There's no cure.
So it's.
You know, both of my parentshad diabetes.
(02:08):
I have three sisters that don'thave diabetes.
I think I carry every all theweight of the family.
So complications of diabetes isreal, from kidneys to eyes, to
even losing your legs.
So, unfortunately, I wish I hada kind of unique story about
losing my legs.
Unfortunately is due to thecomplications of diabetes.
(02:31):
I'm just living with diabetes.
I'm not going to let it hold medown or hold me back.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
I love that I love that.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
Living with it, so I just can't drink.
You know Coca Cola, my favoritedrink, yeah.
A little slice of chocolatecake, maybe for a birthday.
But you know, it is a lifestyle, it's a change in stuff.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
So that's good.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
I love that I said that you won't let it hold you
down.
It's beautiful.
Speaker 4 (02:59):
One of the one of the stories is when, when I was in
the hospital, about to lose thesecond leg, I called my peer um,
my peer leader, and was likeokay, I'm going to lose it, Like
I don't think I could live lifewithout legs.
And he was like hold on, hepulled over, Hold on.
I was like somebody who's goingto call you, you just answer it
(03:21):
.
And I was like, oh God, youknow, this guy is crazy.
All right, so I hung up thephone and a lady called with
such a spirit.
She was like hey, jen, I heardyou're losing a leg.
And I'm like this lady is crazy.
And she was like you know,listen, you have faith in God.
I heard you're a woman ofChrist and stuff like that.
She was like listen, I lostboth my legs, both my hands and
(03:46):
my husband.
And I was like holy crap.
I started laughing like oh, myGod, she was laughing.
All I can, all I can rememberasking her is how do you wipe
your butt?
How do you wipe your butt?
And she said very carefully,and at that point I was like I'm
not, I'm never going to uh,feel sorry for myself because
(04:09):
there's people worse off than me.
I mean, just imagine having nolegs and no hands I can't and
then no husband to support.
So from there I was like I'llnever feel sorry for myself,
ever.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
And.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
I'm in this time of age, technology and medicine is
so advanced that my prostheticlegs could you know, I had some
some very expensive legs, andthey do have the Falcons on it,
because I'm a Falcons fan.
And I wear them well, I'm proudof them and it is what it is.
(04:51):
Go Falcons.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
That's good.
That's good.
I love that.
I love that when you found outthat you had diabetes, I mean,
you said this is, this issomething that's run through
your family, though so thatmight not have been that big of
a surprise, but when yourealized that you were facing
that, how did you come to termswith it?
Speaker 4 (05:08):
Like, it took a long time.
I I denied it.
I like I looked at the needlesone day and I'm like I'm not
going to shoot myself.
I got to shoot myself up threetimes a day for the rest of my
life and I'm 20 years old.
It took a long time to reallyaccept that I was diabetic.
(05:31):
You know, being young andstupid, you know I did get into
some trouble with high sugar.
That almost cost me to be in ahospital and I, you know,
reality hits you in the head and, yeah, I'm accepting it every
day, every day.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
I see how that would be an issue, especially at 20,
because you, you know, thinkyou're an adult I mean,
technically you are, but youknow what I mean and you
probably think like, oh, I'mjust going to push through this,
like it's going to be fine, I'm20.
And so I could totally seethinking that, like it'll be
fine, I'm, it's not going to,this isn't going to last my
whole life.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
I can see, I think that's what I would have thought
too, like, no, it's like if, ifyou, if it was something that
you can see, if the disease ofdiabetes is some kind of scar on
your face that gets bad, Ithink you will mentally take
care of it better.
But because it's internal andyou don't see it um
deteriorating your body inside,you kind of you know people who
(06:36):
are diabetic.
Sometimes we, we, we get tired,we get tired of shooting
ourselves, we just it's mentallystraining um knowing that this
is the rest of your life, right.
It's not never going to stop.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
I'm always going to have to have insulin for the
rest of my life, so that wouldbe a challenge because, like I'm
not I don't know about any ofyou here, but I am not a big fan
of needles, Like uh, well, myfamily is really not a big fan
of it.
Like they all pass out all thetime.
Uh, I haven't had.
I haven't had that, but I wouldsay like I still wouldn't like
(07:12):
to have to do that.
That would be so difficult, MrsKiller B.
I mean, her mom was a paramedicand now she works at ER and she
deals with needles all the time.
And Mrs Killer B will even tellyou like she doesn't like the
thought of seeing the needles.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
Oh, I have a terrible time thinking about it.
Yeah Well, Brian just at homedid a blood test where he had to
prick his own finger.
I literally almost passed out,because I couldn't even stand
the thought of pricking your ownfinger.
And do you have to do that parttoo?
Like to test Every day, everyday yeah.
Speaker 6 (07:47):
Every day.
Speaker 5 (07:48):
Yeah, that's my life.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Well, and I love that , I can't you know, I'm so
excited to get to the part ofthe story, of what you're doing,
like you're not letting thishold you back, and that's a big,
that's a big deal.
I would like to ask you, likeyou don't have to worry about
the mic, you don't have to holdthe mic, we can hear you if you
want to hold it so if you likeit?
Speaker 5 (08:05):
there you go, there you go, you can hold it.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Yeah, go for it.
Just don't you have to cleanoff your spit though, because,
like you know, there's mics andthat holds stuff in it.
That's good.
How has losing your legschanged your perspective on life
in your career?
Speaker 4 (08:25):
Oh my God, I can't even tell you it changed
dramatically.
I haven't stand up in a showersince 2016.
So taking a shower, a littlething, is taking a shower.
Every time I'm in the metaverse, I go to people's houses and I
(08:46):
go to the shower right away.
Freedom knows I'll go take ashower.
I'm always in somebody's shower.
I'm just standing there.
That's.
Life is different with one legand then no legs.
You got to think about it.
When I take my legs off.
How am I getting around if Idon't have a wheelchair?
I have to crawl.
(09:07):
I'm on the floor crawling inthe middle of the night, running
well, crawling to the bathroom.
Hopefully I don't have diarrhea, because that's all right, you
got to hold your cheeks andcrawl at the same time.
It's rough guys and thenmentally trying to be sexy for
(09:30):
my husband.
That's another mental thing.
You have to get strong.
Just looking at yourself in themirror and falling in love with
your body again.
It's a struggle.
It's not a struggle.
I learned how to build that andI have a great partner, husband
, that thinks of me as beautiful.
(09:52):
As you know, he calls my legssexy and we play around.
He's like put woman, put onyour legs.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
You know stuff like that.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
My kids hide my legs sometimes and I got to go find
it.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
So, you know we try to make it light as possible.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
But you know my fear, my only fear is being in bed
and the house is on fire.
Like you can't run out.
You got to put on the sleeves,put on the legs.
So having a plan is importantand just being in crowds like I
went to New York and I hadanxiety.
(10:33):
I had to go and have somesessions with a coach to get my
head right of going to New Yorkand being with those millions of
people and not being able toget on the subway now and hustle
and bustle.
You know it took some work withme and met a coach in here and
(10:54):
to get me my anxiety going and Imade it.
I made it to New York and so,yeah, life is different.
Every day is a new day.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
What I love about meeting different people in here
is we meet people from allaround the world that are going
through different challenges orhave went through different
seasons, but they're stillpushing through.
And hearing your story.
I love hearing your story and Iwould love for you to share a
little bit where you came fromtoo, because to hear you're not
giving up this is something thatcould easily set us back.
(11:30):
I mean, we've got things that Imean Mrs Killer B knows right
now I'm going through somethings and it's nothing compared
to what you've went through,jen, and what other people maybe
here has gone through, but itcan really get you depressed.
She knows right now what's itbeen, what we just figured out.
Two weeks I haven't been in acar or I haven't been outside.
Those are challenges.
Like man, this is not life.
(11:51):
This is not the way I'm used tolive in life.
So I thought it was interestingto hear you share.
Speaker 4 (11:56):
I think surrounding yourself with good people.
A good family structure is one.
Knowing that you need help andfinding that group that can help
you is two.
And give yourself a break, man.
Like just allow yourself tofeel when you're feeling down,
(12:16):
feel it, cry, boogers,everything, but then have a stop
point, like I'm going to crybut then I need to wipe myself,
wipe my nose, get up and let'sgo.
So I allow myself to get downbut I don't stay there.
And you know, having a youngfamily well, they're teenagers,
(12:39):
but having a family and apurpose gets me keep on going.
So it's a lot of mine.
It's really you heal withinyour mind first, and your body.
Yes, your mindset is everything, everything.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
So watch out, mrs Pooley, the boogers coming.
So just let you know, she gaveme, she gave me permission for
boogers.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
So I can handle the tears, the boogers.
You have to go in the otherroom for.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
That's good.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
I'm past the booger stage of life.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Before we go into the live Q&A, I would like to ask
you what?
Okay, you're doing somethingdifferent here now, Like you're
in horizons for a reason.
You have a purpose in here, sodo you care to share what that
is and what inspired you topivot to virtual reality?
Speaker 4 (13:30):
Well, as you know, I've been an accountant for 34
years and I was fortunate latelyto represent a lot of the very
I'm sorry famous celebrities.
I was blessed to representpublic enemy Puffy Combs, erica
(13:51):
Badu, a lot of the R&B singers.
I was also the Notarius BIG'saccountant when he was alive.
I went on my own after hisdeath because he really was the
one that inspired me to start myown business and he was
(14:13):
hounding me for a year to startmy own practice and leave my
lovely, comfortable job.
And so I talked with my husbandand we just moved to Atlanta
and I said, okay, he lit myentrepreneur light inside me and
(14:36):
I agreed before he left toCalifornia that I would go ahead
and open the practice and aslong as he bought me a table, a
computer, you know, all thenecessary things to start it off
.
So he says I got you.
He goes to LA and then he getskilled out in LA and I thought
(14:57):
my future was done.
You know, that was a hard lossfor me because I really had a
future.
I finally was going to do it.
And maybe when Puffy was ontour with the Goodbye Tour, with
all of everybody in bad boyentertainment, they came to
(15:20):
Atlanta and they just they askedme to cook for them and I was
like, sure, just come.
While the tour bus came andeverybody came Little Kim sees
112 and I cooked for them andthey took me to the back and
said listen, big had a dream forall of us and we want to make
sure that that dream happens.
And so they said we want you toopen up your practice and we
(15:43):
were going to be your clients.
And I was like, but I don'thave a computer, I don't have
any of the table.
You know you need things to runup Sure and my car was breaking
down and they blessed me withall that stuff and I started my
practice for, for I ran it for20 years and lost my leg so I
(16:08):
had to close it because you knowyou need energy to run a
business.
And Thanksgiving of last year Isaw this I had a dream is.
One of his song is it was allthe dream.
I had a dream that he finallycame to me, but it was like
chaos in my dream and I wastrying to talk to him but he had
(16:31):
to go.
So he pointed to something onthe table.
I didn't know what it is, butit kind of moved me so much that
I had time.
I called his mom, I calledlittle C's talk to my husband
like what is this?
And then the next day I see onFacebook and Toria's BIG in
concert in the metaverse.
(16:51):
I was like what is themetaverse?
And I found out that theseOculus that I bought my daughter
to you know that's sitting onthe shelf collecting dust, I
told her to bring it home fromcollege, because I need to go to
this, some kind of concert herein the metaverse whatever that
says.
So, December 19th.
(17:13):
I put it on and I went and Isaw the late notorious big in
concert walking on the stage andI was lost it yeah.
Speaker 5 (17:28):
I lost it.
Speaker 4 (17:29):
I lost it.
And then I'm looking at peopleand they're like hey, you know,
I'm like you're talking to me.
And he was like yeah, I'mtalking to you, I'm like you can
see me, you can hear me.
Speaker 5 (17:39):
It's awesome.
Speaker 4 (17:40):
And I was like this metaverse is crazy.
So I befriended somebody calledTY and he took me hopping
around and I ended up in a worldwhere somebody was having a
meeting.
Mediclean Rupert was having ameeting with some other creators
, and so I'm like, oh, they'redoing business.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
What is going?
Speaker 4 (18:05):
on Like people are really doing business.
So I heard them go back downand say I'm sorry, but I
listened.
And then they went through aportal to MediClean Rupert's
office.
I go into the office and whatdo I see?
In his office A portrait ofNataria's BIG, and I was like
(18:26):
whoa.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
Oh my goodness, that's crazy.
Speaker 4 (18:28):
The spirits are talking to me and I knew that I
had to speak to this man.
I did eventually had thecourage to speak to him and he's
been my friend, my consultant,guide here and I articulated
what I want to do.
I wanted to have an accountingpractice in the metaverse, wow.
(18:51):
And he was like I'll hook youup with the right people.
The builder that I hooked upwith was Thunderbills.
No, no, he ended up having aroommate that went to school
with the Nataria's BIG STOWORTER.
Oh my, gosh.
He was like, oh my God, likeyeah, okay, this is it, this is
(19:13):
it.
And he built me an office andI'm at 300 Golden Ave in the
city of Anthem and I'm sittingin there.
Guys, I'm in there.
If you need accounting, taxservices, payroll services, I'm
in there.
That's the best one.
But my love is teachingentrepreneurs how to build a
(19:35):
business, start a business.
I've launched and created overhundreds of businesses during my
career, and so I put thesetools together while I was in
the hospital to teach people howto start businesses in the
hospital and tested it out withZoom.
That's when COVID was around,and now I'm converting that
(20:01):
thing into the metaverse and Ijust opened the VIP Entrepreneur
Academy here in the metaversewith my partner.
MediClean.
Rupert Thunderbills did thattoo, and I'm here giving free
classes to those people who wantto start a business.
I'm going to put you through anine-week course teaching you
(20:27):
how to start a business and getyou out there to become
millionaires.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
Oh, that's awesome.
That's incredible.
I love that.
I love the.
There's so many people in herein Horizon yeah, you guys can
throw a confetti over that,that's great.
Yeah, absolutely Like that'sawesome.
Like I don't have my applausebutton anymore so I can't hit it
.
It was Zoom back up upstairs.
But I love like there's so manypeople in Horizon that are
doing amazing things.
And I mean for people that'slistening to the podcast, like
(20:53):
listening to the podcast replayI know there's still people out
there that's wondering, like inthis metaverse, thing's a joke,
it's not just a game.
There's real business thingshappening here, real connections
.
That's what I love, exactly theconnections that we're making
with people around the worldthis technology is making
available to us.
It's powerful.
Speaker 4 (21:12):
Now my reach is national.
You know I'm all over theStates.
I have clients.
I've gotten four clients out ofhere viable clients and
continued to make more and moremeetings.
I was in a meeting for fourhours today in the office.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
Wow, oh my.
Speaker 4 (21:31):
God, I gotta be on killer Four hours Four hours.
Speaker 5 (21:34):
You know, give me some tea, you got four hours,
that's great.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
And you know, I'm just here.
Speaker 4 (21:43):
I'm really I feel like my purpose.
I think God is making me.
I'm here for a reasonAbsolutely.
I could have died with my firstleg.
I almost died in my first legHeart attack.
Everything on the table.
I'm here Now.
I'm here doing it withoutwalking to an office.
(22:04):
I just put this on and I canwalk with no legs into the
office.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
I know you won't say a name and that's okay.
But what is the weirdest likeexpense item that you ever saw
something come across your desk.
That's good.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
That's a great question.
Speaker 4 (22:22):
Um, I don't care, I'll drop names.
I think the one client thatreally challenged on the
expenses that at a drop of adime I need a mansion, I need a
mansion Rent a mansion was puffywas Sean Combs.
(22:44):
I have to give him creditbecause he was a unique
entrepreneur.
That man was talented and itshows today he's still prevalent
and he has all these differentbusinesses.
He was one of my teachers man.
He was one of my teachers.
There's a lot of people thattaught me no names names.
(23:07):
Michael Eisner from Walt Disney, just doing his books and
looking at his empire wasawesome.
You know, helping out Jay-Z'sfan club and working with the
Capones like the mafia familyCapones oh my goodness.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
They didn't have any arresting write-offs in their
ass for nothing.
Speaker 4 (23:32):
I was like I had the unique ability and then meeting
these stars you know, theseunique souls I mean spending
time with left eye before shedied was amazing.
Just being with the publicenemy and history Like that's
(23:57):
history right there.
Absolutely meeting the TupacShakur family and I'll give you
a unique story.
One time I was on my own.
I represent some of the TupacShakur family and his aunt,
gloria Cox.
She has a on Hulu.
She has a documentary right now.
(24:18):
She sent somebody over to theoffice.
She didn't tell me who theperson's name is and, vice versa
, didn't tell that person who Iwas.
So this lady comes through thedoor and sits down and I'm doing
my spiel.
Hi, I'm Jennifer Smash and I'mthe captain.
Blah blah, blah.
You know.
You know, I represent Natalia'sbig.
You know giving my resume.
(24:39):
As soon as I said that, shestopped and you could feel like
the whole tension in the roomcome down.
And I'm like oh snap, did I saysomething wrong?
I said, excuse me, iseverything all right?
She says no, no, no, no, youknow what?
My brother's gonna turn in hisgrave.
And I was like who's yourbrother?
(25:02):
And she was like Tupac is mybrother.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
Oh, my God.
Speaker 4 (25:06):
And I was like, oh, I stepped back and everybody in
the office you could hear a pindrop and I was like, listen, I
understand if you get up andwalk away.
I understand she was like no, no, no, my aunt sent me here for a
reason and I guess I need toask this question.
I said what?
And she said Jennifer, didNatalia's VIG kill my brother
(25:28):
Tupac?
And I said absolutely not.
He was in the hospital with abroken leg during a time that
your brother was shot.
He didn't really have a pennyin the bank at that time because
we were just finishing up thealbum.
But I can tell you that camp tohave nothing to do with your
(25:50):
brother.
And she looked at me and shesays I believe you.
And she was light after that.
She I think she was sent therefor a reason and I'll never
forget that meeting.
I think she did find closure.
She walked out that place and Ihope I gave her a piece.
(26:12):
I know I gave her a piece.
We still talk from here.
Her brother just got a star onthe Hollywood Walk of Fame and I
think that was one of my proudmoments to be able to give her
piece.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
Yes, oh man, it was a drug-laving story.
Oh, the story, yes.
Speaker 4 (26:32):
And her aunt did that on purpose.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
I found out that her aunt did that on purpose.
Yeah, she did that on purpose.
Speaker 4 (26:40):
Shout outs to Szechua Shakur.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
Yeah, your story is amazing.
By the way, I appreciate youtelling everybody, but that's
all I got.
That's awesome, Thanks.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
Nate.
Speaker 5 (26:55):
Thank you, nate, thanks, nate, thanks for joining
us.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
You can throw it up here if you want and if anybody
else does anybody else have aquestion?
Go ahead.
Speaker 4 (27:02):
I would like to definitely, if I can, ask for my
partner, meta Clean Rupert, tocome on the stage.
He's really an important partof my story and I want to give
him some flowers.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
man, Come on up here, Meta Clean.
Jump on up here.
There you go.
Speaker 6 (27:21):
It will give you, it will put boundaries in
perspective, both figurativelyand metaphorically, with his
headset.
So yeah, that's right, it's apleasure to meet you, pleasure
to meet you, pleasure to meetyou, pleasure to meet you.
Speaker 4 (27:34):
So I do want to and there we go, meta Clean.
He is one of the most importantpeople here, I think, in the
Metaverse world.
He's well educated, knowsexactly what this world is about
.
Without him I don't think I canarticulate my future here and
my success here with myaccounting practice and the VIP
(27:57):
Entrepreneur Academy, and sothis man is well respected and
one of the best, best, best guysout here.
Thank, you.
Speaker 6 (28:07):
Thank you very much.
I don't know if I deserve allthat, but I do really try to
help people and I think if weall start there, then I think
we'll be okay.
Yeah, let's just help eachother.
Yeah, absolutely, it's reallythat simple here.
It's really awesome.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
Yeah, it really is.
I mean, we've had people helpus here at the studio is what
we're doing, and it is it's.
We can do so much more together, and I love meeting you, Meta
Clean, I've seen you on I think.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
I've seen you on Instagram and I've seen you
Absolutely so I spent a lot oftime here, yeah so yeah we just
now got on Instagram, so butyeah, it's good to meet you in
person, so can you?
Speaker 1 (28:40):
fair to tell us a little bit like what you're
doing in Horizons.
Speaker 6 (28:44):
Yeah, so I think when I started in December 2021, I
came in like everybody else,really wide eyed and thinking I
can take over the world with mycreativity.
I am a creative.
I have a background inphotography.
I used to shoot for a lot ofthe magazines in New York, I've
been a graphic artistphotographer and I kind of
combined all of that in one,which led us to get an artist
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signed with Dr Dre and AftermathRecords for a pretty sizable
deal.
But you know, as fate have it,once money's involved, people's
feelings change, and herfeelings change towards the
management of her career, and sowe got sent home.
So you know, but to get therewas truly a blessing all in
itself, like I had no businessbeing in that room with that
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caliber of talent, but then Istarted believing that I should
be there.
Good.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
Why not me right so why not anybody?
Speaker 6 (29:35):
But it's kind of led my life into kind of how I live
every day, like just believingthat anything is possible.
But some of those possibilitieshave to come with the people
that you surround yourself withand being good to people,
Because if you're good tosomebody it's gonna come back on
you.
It might not be tomorrow or 100years from now, but if you're
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generally good and not forwanting to receive any type of
reward for it, but just helppeople reach their goals.
And I was presented with anopportunity which kind of
kickstarted all of that right, Iwas in the right place at the
right time.
My cousin was an assistant toan editor in chief for one of
the biggest music magazines inNew York, so she had complete
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access to everything.
And I was right there alongsideher.
Honestly and I know this is aChristian based show and I'm a
Christian but I was there forthe free liquor and the women.
I'm not gonna lie.
I was 20, I was 20 somethingyears old and I just happened to
know how to use a camera, so itcame in handy, so I got to
enjoy.
(30:37):
You know, before I was marriedI got to drink for free and
party with celebrities and getpaid to do it, because I was
taking pictures and saying itwas work.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
We've all got real life stories.
I mean that's part of our life,right, and I love that you felt
comfortable to be real aboutthat, because I mean, hey, we
all got a pass and I love tohear where your heart is today
and to help people, because itis who you surround yourself
with can really change thedirection that you're going to.
Speaker 6 (31:08):
Yeah, and who's not going with being a different
person than you were five yearsago?
There's nothing wrong with that.
Oh gosh, yeah, definitely.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
Sorry, this thing's going crazy.
You know, I hope you all heardthat.
I think that was such animportant thing that you said
about you know you had thisopportunity and then it was
taken away from you and you justlooked at it like, well, I'm
glad I had that.
You know it made you a betterperson in what you're doing.
That's so important because Ithink sometimes something
happens for us that's good inour life and we just hold on to
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that thing like it's the onlything we've got.
But you can use it as a steppingstone and continue moving
forward and, you know, let thatgrow you into the person you're
becoming and not get wrapped upin being mad that it's gone now,
you know just be thankful forwhat it was and now move on to
better things.
Speaker 6 (31:53):
Yeah, and I feel like , first of all, we never
understand God's story, right?
We?
Think we can explain him andwe're fools for even trying to
attempt to.
But you know, we know that heputs us through these things.
Sometimes he's unbearablethings.
Listen, nothing I'veexperienced is unbearable.
There've been some traumaticstories, but Sure, but he meets
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us where we are right.
He puts us through these thingsthat we shouldn't overcome, but
yet we do and we come outcompletely different people
after it.
Right?
He doesn't do that to peoplethat he considers weak or can't
handle the burden, he puts itreally on the people he believes
can.
That's my opinion of who canhandle the burden because those
failures that I have, now I cancommunicate with people about
(32:37):
that, right.
And when I, when I movedthrough the space, when I
decided that I wanted to buildan empire of creativity in here
and then realized I didn't liketo build, which was an oxymoron,
it was unfortunate, right, but.
But I knew some of myexperiences could could
hopefully inspire or at leasthelp somebody figure out what
their goals and dreams are.
So, even at the expense of kindof putting the stuff that I
(32:58):
want to do on the side which isfine, because I get probably
more pleasure out of doing thispart of the business than doing
anything for myself, right, Ijust know that my failures could
help somebody get through astory and know that just
failures, just learning, that's,that's all it is.
Don't.
Don't think it's the end.
It's just the beginning of whatnot to do the next time.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
I love that I think that's what we need so much of
that today, because so manypeople like they want to teach
from their success.
But there's so much more tolearn from learning from each
other's failures, because whenwe try to teach just from
success all the time, peoplealways think that I'm not good
enough, I'm always messing up,I'm failing, and that's never
going to happen.
But anybody that's successful.
(33:40):
There is a lot of failure thattook place to get there and
that's a crucial, crucial partof your story.
I've seen it all.
Speaker 4 (33:48):
I think that's why this course that I'm doing is
based on a lot of entrepreneurs'errors, people making errors
and failing at stuff.
I, I, you know they.
They got back up and wassuccessful.
I mean, those are.
The real drive of why I'm doingthis is to let everybody know
(34:09):
yeah, you can do it, you can getup.
You will make some errors, butI know some of the formulas that
you can avoid it.
Speaker 3 (34:16):
Now, I think, it's so important what you said to like
even earlier, when you said youknow you're, you're accepting
your situation every day, and Ithink that's important.
You know, I think other peoplesee someone who's successful in
some way in their life and theyjust look and think, well,
they've got it all together.
I'm never going to get there,but with you being willing to
(34:38):
talk about those things that youdeal with still every day, it
gives people hope, like, okay,like.
Speaker 4 (34:44):
I can do that too.
Speaker 3 (34:46):
I can take what I have right now and be faithful
with it and just keep movingforward.
I love that.
Speaker 6 (34:53):
I tell you, mrs Killaby, I will much follow
somebody who has been broken andfigured it out than somebody
that's never had to strugglethrough it.
Speaker 5 (35:00):
Yeah, See why I partner up with him.
Speaker 6 (35:05):
Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (35:06):
I mean, he's glowing purple for crying out loud.
Why would we follow him?
Speaker 6 (35:11):
God's best disciples were the broken ones.
Those are the ones that spreadthe message like nobody else
right, they weren't the perfectpeople.
They were the broken peoplethat that had to go through some
stuff and come out of it to beincredible so it's fine.
It's okay to feral man.
It's okay to feral.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
Right, I know that you guys.
I want to thank you guys alltoo, for coming out and hanging
in here, even though you knowwe're down here.
This is so strange, like tryingto run this show downstairs
instead of up in the main studio.
But, like you said, like I meanhonestly, like when it kept
kicking us all out, I was like,oh my gosh, are we not going to
be able to do this?
And I was like, no, we got tothink of a way to make this
happen, because this is animportant story to get out here
(35:49):
and see.
Here we are, we're doing itdownstairs and we made it work,
and that's part of not giving up, like things, even in horizons,
things are going to be thrownat us.
We're going to have to be ableto pivot and work with it.
But we're here for purpose.
You know for those of you thatmaybe this is your first time at
Killer B Studios you know ourfocus here is connect, share and
transform.
We want to connect with people.
This is a place to connect topeople, meet new people, share
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real life stories andexperiences.
This can be wins, this can bestruggles, challenges.
To help help encourage eachother, because you know again, a
lot of us are going throughsimilar things and you never
know who your story is going tohelp.
All in hopes to transformpeople's lives.
Help your, give you hope.
Give you hope.
It's such an important thingthat we need to be here for each
other and I love thistechnology allows us to do it.
(36:34):
I love to hear what you're doingin here, jen.
I can't wait to see all thestuff that you have planned
ahead.
I wish we could do more of theQ&A, but I know it's kind of
complicated down here, but wewill go upstairs and just second
and take a selfie and thenJen's going to drop a portal.
But, jen, before we wrap up, Iwould actually Nate dogs got a
question.
Speaker 6 (36:52):
I'm just going to say I'm going to give Jen back the
stage.
But I do want to say one thingabout her is that is that as
professional and as she is andher experience and resume that
she comes with, she doesn't leadwith that.
You would never know that andespecially in this space, with
the amount of egos that wesometimes run into, you would
expect somebody to be reallybraggadocious and lead with that
(37:14):
and expect to get a certainamount of respect or notoriety
because of that.
But the reason I'm gravitatedto her is one because we're both
from the Bronx, we're similarage, which is no longer 25.
But she really leads with theheart first and I'm attracted to
people who have that philosophy.
(37:35):
You can make money anyway in amillion ways and you can do it
in a really horrible way or youcan do it in a really
pleasurable way.
That's really intent on makingsomebody's life different.
So as long as she will have mearound, I'll be here, so I love
it.
Speaker 3 (37:52):
I love it.
Thanks, medical, thank you,thank you, no problem, thank you
, thank you, thank you, thankyou.
Thank you for joining us.
Man Appreciate it, no problem.
Speaker 1 (37:59):
Yeah, appreciate it, man.
All right, so Nate's got aquestion.
Speaker 4 (38:01):
So let me check in the mail.
Speaker 1 (38:02):
Your check's in the mail your check's in the mail.
All right, I'm gonna throw Natethe voice ball here.
Here you go, nate.
All right, nate, welcome back.
So what do you got for us, man?
You got a question or thought?
Speaker 2 (38:16):
Yeah, I got a question for Jen how do I become
an entrepreneur?
Speaker 4 (38:22):
How Well.
You have to come to the courseand figure it out.
I'm going to.
If you take the course, we'llvet your idea, we'll give you
the tools that you need andwe'll make you.
You're going to work in theclass, though.
Do your homework, take sometests and get you really vetted
for those investors to back you.
(38:43):
So you have to come with anidea, a clear idea, a passion
for it, and be ready to roll upyour sleeves and work at it, and
then I will make sure.
I guide you and give you thetools to be successful.
I'll give you valuableinformation for profits.
That's the idea.
Speaker 1 (39:01):
Awesome.
Next thing, though yeah, thankyou, the class is entirely
metaverse based.
Speaker 4 (39:06):
Yes, it's entirely metaverse based.
The homework and stuff is ofcourse on your computer and
outside but the class isdefinitely here, and what's the
unique thing about the class isI also bring in the
professionals, experts in theirfield, to speak about.
So when we're talking about lawand business, I'm not going to
(39:28):
be the one that's going tofacilitate it.
I'm going to have a businesslawyer in there so that you can
have a direct information,directly right from the lawyer's
mouth and you can ask him.
He can articulate the rightanswers for you.
Speaker 3 (39:42):
Oh, that's fascinating, that's awesome.
Speaker 1 (39:45):
I love that.
Speaker 4 (39:45):
And, of course, mr Killer B.
We talked about the marketingsegment of the class and I
invited him to be our guestinstructor to talk about
marketing man, because I don'tknow.
Speaker 1 (40:01):
Yeah, a lot of people here don't know.
They just think we're Killer Bstudios, but we actually have a
business Killer B marketing andwe actually work with
broadcasters in business and allpeople around the world with
marketing and digital andstrategies and purpose.
Speaker 2 (40:13):
So, yeah, and I don't do that.
I do love to be yeah, so I lovethat.
Speaker 1 (40:16):
Scholar.
You have something you want toadd?
Yeah, here, I'm going to throwyou the ball.
There you go.
Oh no, oh no.
Speaker 3 (40:20):
Hold on, I think it knocked you.
Go over and grab it now.
Speaker 1 (40:23):
There you go, there you go, ok Game.
Thanks for joining us.
Speaker 5 (40:27):
Scholar, it's good to be back.
Hello Jen, so happy to be herewith you and good to be good to
see you again, Mr and Mrs.
Speaker 2 (40:36):
Killer B.
Speaker 3 (40:36):
Great to see you.
Speaker 5 (40:38):
Yes, yes, yes.
I just want to let you knowthat Jen has been inspirational
for me in my life in getting mybusiness in order as I'm moving
forward, and she's been a wealthof information and I can't wait
to continue to build mybusiness with her in hand.
Speaker 2 (40:54):
So I just want to know.
Speaker 5 (40:56):
I got to do my homework.
Speaker 2 (40:57):
I'm still doing my homework, yeah.
Speaker 5 (41:01):
So I have signed up for her for your business
classes, right?
And I did have one questionthat I think might be
interesting Are you going to betalking about finance, because I
saw that that was one of thequestions about investment funds
.
Absolutely.
Speaker 4 (41:21):
Absolutely.
So we're going to be working onyour performance, so you have
to do some financials and we'regoing to have to incorporate
getting alone and putting thatwithin your performer or find
out what's the best avenue foryou.
I have some investor friendsthat will be coming to the
(41:43):
graduation and you'll be able topitch your business plan to
them and your idea and thenhopefully someone will fund you.
But yeah, that class I forgotis week seven.
We get down and dirty figuringout your numbers, which is more
important, but understandingthem and being able to interpret
(42:06):
them to the reader, it's veryimportant.
I will make sure that you'regoing to be straight with that
and figure out how much you needto ask for.
Do you know how much you needto ask to start a business?
We're going to figure that downand break it down for you.
Speaker 5 (42:23):
That's awesome, Jen.
Yeah, thank you.
Speaker 3 (42:26):
Feels like behind the scenes at Shark Tank.
Behind the scenes, yeah, behindthe scenes at Shark Tank.
Speaker 1 (42:30):
So OK, so, blue, just let you know you're muted.
So if you want to unmuteyourself, that way we can hear
you there you go.
Now you're unmuted.
Hey, thanks for joining us hey,hey, hey.
Speaker 3 (42:42):
Thanks for being here .
Speaker 2 (42:43):
I just want to say that I plan on being a future
alumni of Jen.
Speaker 6 (42:49):
Smash's class.
Speaker 2 (42:50):
Nice.
Speaker 3 (42:51):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (42:53):
So my question is what has been worrying me pretty
much is that when I had mycolon surgery and I pretty much
lost the house, the car, medicalbills stacked up with my credit
issue.
Am I going to be able to lookfavorable to individuals who
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want to invest because of whathappens to me?
Speaker 4 (43:24):
Good question.
Maybe not an institution of abank per se, but there's angel
investors in there.
You just have to find the rightone that works with you and
they can see your plan and seethe future so you might have a
little higher interest rate.
I'm not going to lie to you.
It might be a challenge butyeah, there are people out there
(43:45):
that will invest in you,especially knowing your
circumstances.
You'll be able to expand.
Hey, I had surgery, got alittle bit.
They'll have that understandingso they can look at your credit
differently because they willunderstand your personal issues
and stuff.
Believe me, I know I lost a legand I had to ask for funding
(44:10):
and my story helped me so theywere able to not look at that
and look at the business planand stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (44:23):
OK, that's great.
Speaker 5 (44:24):
So yeah, there is a possibility for everything.
Speaker 2 (44:29):
I believe in the process and I think it'll work
through, and I just want to makesure that everybody has a
clothing tag with our company.
Speaker 1 (44:43):
Awesome, awesome.
Thank you, blue, thank you,thank you All right.
Speaker 4 (44:47):
Blue.
I need to get your email when Ihave a chance.
Speaker 1 (44:50):
So, jen, can you let us all know like so?
Speaker 4 (44:52):
I can send you a registration form.
Speaker 1 (44:54):
How can people connect with you?
How can people connect with you?
Speaker 4 (44:58):
Oh yeah, so in the world I have my information
labeled.
You can text me or send myemail addresses in there so you
can go to the world and write itdown.
Located on LinkedIn, myprofessional page.
My name is Jennifer Smash, soif you Google me I will come up
(45:21):
as well.
I kind of look like my avatarback in the days 10 years ago,
so which I kept that picture upthere and I'm listed so you can
find me.
Google me, look me up and I'mthere.
Speaker 1 (45:39):
Awesome.
Now how can we find out aboutyour, the classes and stuff
that's coming up?
Speaker 5 (45:44):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (45:45):
I heard people saying like they've registered and
stuff like so right now, is.
Speaker 4 (45:49):
I'm taking registration.
There is a vetting process thatI do Not.
Anybody can come in the class.
You got to be very seriousabout taking the class.
There's expectations.
I have some real expectationsthat you have to take all nine
weeks.
It's free.
It's free.
(46:09):
So if I'm giving my time to you, you got to give your time to
me.
It's a very unique small class.
I do this purposely because webuild a community amongst
ourselves and those other.
There are eight people to ourclass.
Those other seven people areyour potential customers.
So in the class we're sharingideas, but you're also testing
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it out with some real customersin the class and so, with my
unique perspective of my historyand knowledge, we really work
it out.
There's a lot of participationand there's a lot of work.
So having your own business isa lot of work.
Speaker 1 (46:53):
You should know that right, that's a lot of work.
Speaker 4 (46:55):
Oh yeah, your family has to understand you have to
have a good support.
Being an entrepreneur is theworst time of your life and the
best time of your life.
Speaker 1 (47:04):
The best time.
Speaker 4 (47:05):
Yeah, that's true, so I'm very realistic about who I
choose in the class and whatclasses are starting in
September and in my world, allthe information on each week.
I have it narrated by thelovely British candy.
She kind of breaks down vocallyin what the classes are about,
(47:29):
so you'll come in the world.
You can stand on the little boxand listen to what that week's
course is about.
Speaker 1 (47:37):
Awesome, awesome, well cool.
She's going to drop a portalafter we take our selfie
upstairs and you guys can gocheck it out.
Jen, I know we don't get to dothe outro music or anything,
since we're down here.
We have no sound board downhere, but that's all right.
I would love for you to like.
You saw, I asked people toclose with a closing thought.
I'm going to do a little bitdifferent than asking you for a
closing thought.
(47:57):
What I'm going to ask you isThank you, Lord Jesus.
Yes, with everything that youshared.
Speaker 3 (48:02):
Answer prayer that fast.
Speaker 1 (48:04):
With everything that you shared and the things that
you, what you've gone throughand where you are today.
What advice would you give toothers facing life challenges or
setbacks?
Speaker 4 (48:15):
I think you need to stop and get centered and you
know, like I said, feel what youneed to feel, but get back up.
Do not give up.
Don't give up.
I post this one picture of abird who's trying to eat a frog,
(48:36):
but the frog is choking theneck of the bird.
Just don't give up, man.
Believe in yourself and stayfocused.
I'm very spiritual, you know.
Speak to your ancestors, speakto God for some strength and
just believe in yourself and getout of your way.
You can do it, just get up, getup.
Speaker 1 (48:58):
Yes, I love that.
Get out of your way, becausethat's what happens a lot.
We're in our own way.
I love that.
You guys, everybody thank youfor joining us tonight at Killer
.
Speaker 4 (49:07):
Beast Studios.
Thank you guys, I appreciateyou.
Speaker 1 (49:09):
Thanks for tuning in to today's podcast episode.
But welcome to today's podcast replay from the
Killer B Studios.
Let's go ahead and dive on in.
Hey everybody, hey everybody,hey everybody.
Thanks for joining us.
We've got Arkana.
They're shooting the confetticannon.
I like this.
What do you guys think aboutthat confetti cannon?
Can you show us that again?
Arkana?
Let's show that thing off man.
You guys look, keep buildingall this.
(00:22):
You guys throw in some confetti.
If you love the confetti cannon, yeah, awesome, I love that.
Very cool.
I'm super excited for everybodybeing here tonight.
Tonight we have a special guestjoining us.
She is once an account for someof the biggest names in hip hop
and other celebrities.
Jen, would you mind to take 30seconds and let people know that
you might have to make anintense seconds with the way our
(00:42):
experience has been yeah no,tell us a little bit about who
you are and tell us about JenSmash.
Speaker 4 (00:48):
Well, I'm Jennifer Smash.
I'm originally from New Yorkand I have been an accountant
over 30 plus years.
I don't want to say my age, butquite a long time.
I am married for 29 years,three kids and I am a double
amputee and a survivor.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Okay, does anybody here know Jen?
Has anybody ran into Jen Smashhere in Horizon Worlds?
Okay, yeah, we've got you.
Got some fans out here.
Jen, yeah, awesome, awesome,well, jen, okay.
So we're going to start with,we're going to go through Jen's
story and let her share whatshe's doing here in Horizon, but
we want to really hone in onyour story too, get to know more
about you and the life that youknow, the seasons and the
(01:36):
struggles you went through andthe wins, like where you are
today and where you're going.
But tell me, like you say,you're a double amputee Like how
did that start?
Speaker 4 (01:47):
Well, unfortunately, I have what you call the bad
diabetes.
I've been diabetic since I'm 20years old, straight to insulin
and well, the struggles withdiabetes is real.
You know it's.
There's no cure.
So it's.
You know, both of my parentshad diabetes.
(02:08):
I have three sisters that don'thave diabetes.
I think I carry every all theweight of the family.
So complications of diabetes isreal, from kidneys to eyes, to
even losing your legs.
So, unfortunately, I wish I hada kind of unique story about
losing my legs.
Unfortunately is due to thecomplications of diabetes.
(02:31):
I'm just living with diabetes.
I'm not going to let it hold medown or hold me back.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
I love that I love that.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
Living with it, so I just can't drink.
You know Coca Cola, my favoritedrink, yeah.
A little slice of chocolatecake, maybe for a birthday.
But you know, it is a lifestyle, it's a change in stuff.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
So that's good.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
I love that I said that you won't let it hold you
down.
It's beautiful.
Speaker 4 (02:59):
One of the one of the stories is when, when I was in
the hospital, about to lose thesecond leg, I called my peer um,
my peer leader, and was likeokay, I'm going to lose it, Like
I don't think I could live lifewithout legs.
And he was like hold on, hepulled over, Hold on.
I was like somebody who's goingto call you, you just answer it
(03:21):
.
And I was like, oh God, youknow, this guy is crazy.
All right, so I hung up thephone and a lady called with
such a spirit.
She was like hey, jen, I heardyou're losing a leg.
And I'm like this lady is crazy.
And she was like you know,listen, you have faith in God.
I heard you're a woman ofChrist and stuff like that.
She was like listen, I lostboth my legs, both my hands and
(03:46):
my husband.
And I was like holy crap.
I started laughing like oh, myGod, she was laughing.
All I can, all I can rememberasking her is how do you wipe
your butt?
How do you wipe your butt?
And she said very carefully,and at that point I was like I'm
not, I'm never going to uh,feel sorry for myself because
(04:09):
there's people worse off than me.
I mean, just imagine having nolegs and no hands I can't and
then no husband to support.
So from there I was like I'llnever feel sorry for myself,
ever.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
And.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
I'm in this time of age, technology and medicine is
so advanced that my prostheticlegs could you know, I had some
some very expensive legs, andthey do have the Falcons on it,
because I'm a Falcons fan.
And I wear them well, I'm proudof them and it is what it is.
(04:51):
Go Falcons.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
That's good.
That's good.
I love that.
I love that when you found outthat you had diabetes, I mean,
you said this is, this issomething that's run through
your family, though so thatmight not have been that big of
a surprise, but when yourealized that you were facing
that, how did you come to termswith it?
Speaker 4 (05:08):
Like, it took a long time.
I I denied it.
I like I looked at the needlesone day and I'm like I'm not
going to shoot myself.
I got to shoot myself up threetimes a day for the rest of my
life and I'm 20 years old.
It took a long time to reallyaccept that I was diabetic.
(05:31):
You know, being young andstupid, you know I did get into
some trouble with high sugar.
That almost cost me to be in ahospital and I, you know,
reality hits you in the head and, yeah, I'm accepting it every
day, every day.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
I see how that would be an issue, especially at 20,
because you, you know, thinkyou're an adult I mean,
technically you are, but youknow what I mean and you
probably think like, oh, I'mjust going to push through this,
like it's going to be fine, I'm20.
And so I could totally seethinking that, like it'll be
fine, I'm, it's not going to,this isn't going to last my
whole life.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
I can see, I think that's what I would have thought
too, like, no, it's like if, ifyou, if it was something that
you can see, if the disease ofdiabetes is some kind of scar on
your face that gets bad, Ithink you will mentally take
care of it better.
But because it's internal andyou don't see it um
deteriorating your body inside,you kind of you know people who
(06:36):
are diabetic.
Sometimes we, we, we get tired,we get tired of shooting
ourselves, we just it's mentallystraining um knowing that this
is the rest of your life, right.
It's not never going to stop.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
I'm always going to have to have insulin for the
rest of my life, so that wouldbe a challenge because, like I'm
not I don't know about any ofyou here, but I am not a big fan
of needles, Like uh, well, myfamily is really not a big fan
of it.
Like they all pass out all thetime.
Uh, I haven't had.
I haven't had that, but I wouldsay like I still wouldn't like
(07:12):
to have to do that.
That would be so difficult, MrsKiller B.
I mean, her mom was a paramedicand now she works at ER and she
deals with needles all the time.
And Mrs Killer B will even tellyou like she doesn't like the
thought of seeing the needles.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
Oh, I have a terrible time thinking about it.
Yeah Well, Brian just at homedid a blood test where he had to
prick his own finger.
I literally almost passed out,because I couldn't even stand
the thought of pricking your ownfinger.
And do you have to do that parttoo?
Like to test Every day, everyday yeah.
Speaker 6 (07:47):
Every day.
Speaker 5 (07:48):
Yeah, that's my life.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Well, and I love that , I can't you know, I'm so
excited to get to the part ofthe story, of what you're doing,
like you're not letting thishold you back, and that's a big,
that's a big deal.
I would like to ask you, likeyou don't have to worry about
the mic, you don't have to holdthe mic, we can hear you if you
want to hold it so if you likeit?
Speaker 5 (08:05):
there you go, there you go, you can hold it.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Yeah, go for it.
Just don't you have to cleanoff your spit though, because,
like you know, there's mics andthat holds stuff in it.
That's good.
How has losing your legschanged your perspective on life
in your career?
Speaker 4 (08:25):
Oh my God, I can't even tell you it changed
dramatically.
I haven't stand up in a showersince 2016.
So taking a shower, a littlething, is taking a shower.
Every time I'm in the metaverse, I go to people's houses and I
(08:46):
go to the shower right away.
Freedom knows I'll go take ashower.
I'm always in somebody's shower.
I'm just standing there.
That's.
Life is different with one legand then no legs.
You got to think about it.
When I take my legs off.
How am I getting around if Idon't have a wheelchair?
I have to crawl.
(09:07):
I'm on the floor crawling inthe middle of the night, running
well, crawling to the bathroom.
Hopefully I don't have diarrhea, because that's all right, you
got to hold your cheeks andcrawl at the same time.
It's rough guys and thenmentally trying to be sexy for
(09:30):
my husband.
That's another mental thing.
You have to get strong.
Just looking at yourself in themirror and falling in love with
your body again.
It's a struggle.
It's not a struggle.
I learned how to build that andI have a great partner, husband
, that thinks of me as beautiful.
(09:52):
As you know, he calls my legssexy and we play around.
He's like put woman, put onyour legs.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
You know stuff like that.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
My kids hide my legs sometimes and I got to go find
it.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
So, you know we try to make it light as possible.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
But you know my fear, my only fear is being in bed
and the house is on fire.
Like you can't run out.
You got to put on the sleeves,put on the legs.
So having a plan is importantand just being in crowds like I
went to New York and I hadanxiety.
(10:33):
I had to go and have somesessions with a coach to get my
head right of going to New Yorkand being with those millions of
people and not being able toget on the subway now and hustle
and bustle.
You know it took some work withme and met a coach in here and
(10:54):
to get me my anxiety going and Imade it.
I made it to New York and so,yeah, life is different.
Every day is a new day.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
What I love about meeting different people in here
is we meet people from allaround the world that are going
through different challenges orhave went through different
seasons, but they're stillpushing through.
And hearing your story.
I love hearing your story and Iwould love for you to share a
little bit where you came fromtoo, because to hear you're not
giving up this is something thatcould easily set us back.
(11:30):
I mean, we've got things that Imean Mrs Killer B knows right
now I'm going through somethings and it's nothing compared
to what you've went through,jen, and what other people maybe
here has gone through, but itcan really get you depressed.
She knows right now what's itbeen, what we just figured out.
Two weeks I haven't been in acar or I haven't been outside.
Those are challenges.
Like man, this is not life.
(11:51):
This is not the way I'm used tolive in life.
So I thought it was interestingto hear you share.
Speaker 4 (11:56):
I think surrounding yourself with good people.
A good family structure is one.
Knowing that you need help andfinding that group that can help
you is two.
And give yourself a break, man.
Like just allow yourself tofeel when you're feeling down,
(12:16):
feel it, cry, boogers,everything, but then have a stop
point, like I'm going to crybut then I need to wipe myself,
wipe my nose, get up and let'sgo.
So I allow myself to get downbut I don't stay there.
And you know, having a youngfamily well, they're teenagers,
(12:39):
but having a family and apurpose gets me keep on going.
So it's a lot of mine.
It's really you heal withinyour mind first, and your body.
Yes, your mindset is everything, everything.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
So watch out, mrs Pooley, the boogers coming.
So just let you know, she gaveme, she gave me permission for
boogers.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
So I can handle the tears, the boogers.
You have to go in the otherroom for.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
That's good.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
I'm past the booger stage of life.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Before we go into the live Q&A, I would like to ask
you what?
Okay, you're doing somethingdifferent here now, Like you're
in horizons for a reason.
You have a purpose in here, sodo you care to share what that
is and what inspired you topivot to virtual reality?
Speaker 4 (13:30):
Well, as you know, I've been an accountant for 34
years and I was fortunate latelyto represent a lot of the very
I'm sorry famous celebrities.
I was blessed to representpublic enemy Puffy Combs, erica
(13:51):
Badu, a lot of the R&B singers.
I was also the Notarius BIG'saccountant when he was alive.
I went on my own after hisdeath because he really was the
one that inspired me to start myown business and he was
(14:13):
hounding me for a year to startmy own practice and leave my
lovely, comfortable job.
And so I talked with my husbandand we just moved to Atlanta
and I said, okay, he lit myentrepreneur light inside me and
(14:36):
I agreed before he left toCalifornia that I would go ahead
and open the practice and aslong as he bought me a table, a
computer, you know, all thenecessary things to start it off
.
So he says I got you.
He goes to LA and then he getskilled out in LA and I thought
(14:57):
my future was done.
You know, that was a hard lossfor me because I really had a
future.
I finally was going to do it.
And maybe when Puffy was ontour with the Goodbye Tour, with
all of everybody in bad boyentertainment, they came to
(15:20):
Atlanta and they just they askedme to cook for them and I was
like, sure, just come.
While the tour bus came andeverybody came Little Kim sees
112 and I cooked for them andthey took me to the back and
said listen, big had a dream forall of us and we want to make
sure that that dream happens.
And so they said we want you toopen up your practice and we
(15:43):
were going to be your clients.
And I was like, but I don'thave a computer, I don't have
any of the table.
You know you need things to runup Sure and my car was breaking
down and they blessed me withall that stuff and I started my
practice for, for I ran it for20 years and lost my leg so I
(16:08):
had to close it because you knowyou need energy to run a
business.
And Thanksgiving of last year Isaw this I had a dream is.
One of his song is it was allthe dream.
I had a dream that he finallycame to me, but it was like
chaos in my dream and I wastrying to talk to him but he had
(16:31):
to go.
So he pointed to something onthe table.
I didn't know what it is, butit kind of moved me so much that
I had time.
I called his mom, I calledlittle C's talk to my husband
like what is this?
And then the next day I see onFacebook and Toria's BIG in
concert in the metaverse.
(16:51):
I was like what is themetaverse?
And I found out that theseOculus that I bought my daughter
to you know that's sitting onthe shelf collecting dust, I
told her to bring it home fromcollege, because I need to go to
this, some kind of concert herein the metaverse whatever that
says.
So, December 19th.
(17:13):
I put it on and I went and Isaw the late notorious big in
concert walking on the stage andI was lost it yeah.
Speaker 5 (17:28):
I lost it.
Speaker 4 (17:29):
I lost it.
And then I'm looking at peopleand they're like hey, you know,
I'm like you're talking to me.
And he was like yeah, I'mtalking to you, I'm like you can
see me, you can hear me.
Speaker 5 (17:39):
It's awesome.
Speaker 4 (17:40):
And I was like this metaverse is crazy.
So I befriended somebody calledTY and he took me hopping
around and I ended up in a worldwhere somebody was having a
meeting.
Mediclean Rupert was having ameeting with some other creators
, and so I'm like, oh, they'redoing business.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
What is going?
Speaker 4 (18:05):
on Like people are really doing business.
So I heard them go back downand say I'm sorry, but I
listened.
And then they went through aportal to MediClean Rupert's
office.
I go into the office and whatdo I see?
In his office A portrait ofNataria's BIG, and I was like
(18:26):
whoa.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
Oh my goodness, that's crazy.
Speaker 4 (18:28):
The spirits are talking to me and I knew that I
had to speak to this man.
I did eventually had thecourage to speak to him and he's
been my friend, my consultant,guide here and I articulated
what I want to do.
I wanted to have an accountingpractice in the metaverse, wow.
(18:51):
And he was like I'll hook youup with the right people.
The builder that I hooked upwith was Thunderbills.
No, no, he ended up having aroommate that went to school
with the Nataria's BIG STOWORTER.
Oh my, gosh.
He was like, oh my God, likeyeah, okay, this is it, this is
(19:13):
it.
And he built me an office andI'm at 300 Golden Ave in the
city of Anthem and I'm sittingin there.
Guys, I'm in there.
If you need accounting, taxservices, payroll services, I'm
in there.
That's the best one.
But my love is teachingentrepreneurs how to build a
(19:35):
business, start a business.
I've launched and created overhundreds of businesses during my
career, and so I put thesetools together while I was in
the hospital to teach people howto start businesses in the
hospital and tested it out withZoom.
That's when COVID was around,and now I'm converting that
(20:01):
thing into the metaverse and Ijust opened the VIP Entrepreneur
Academy here in the metaversewith my partner.
MediClean.
Rupert Thunderbills did thattoo, and I'm here giving free
classes to those people who wantto start a business.
I'm going to put you through anine-week course teaching you
(20:27):
how to start a business and getyou out there to become
millionaires.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
Oh, that's awesome.
That's incredible.
I love that.
I love the.
There's so many people in herein Horizon yeah, you guys can
throw a confetti over that,that's great.
Yeah, absolutely Like that'sawesome.
Like I don't have my applausebutton anymore so I can't hit it
.
It was Zoom back up upstairs.
But I love like there's so manypeople in Horizon that are
doing amazing things.
And I mean for people that'slistening to the podcast, like
(20:53):
listening to the podcast replayI know there's still people out
there that's wondering, like inthis metaverse, thing's a joke,
it's not just a game.
There's real business thingshappening here, real connections
.
That's what I love, exactly theconnections that we're making
with people around the worldthis technology is making
available to us.
It's powerful.
Speaker 4 (21:12):
Now my reach is national.
You know I'm all over theStates.
I have clients.
I've gotten four clients out ofhere viable clients and
continued to make more and moremeetings.
I was in a meeting for fourhours today in the office.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
Wow, oh my.
Speaker 4 (21:31):
God, I gotta be on killer Four hours Four hours.
Speaker 5 (21:34):
You know, give me some tea, you got four hours,
that's great.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
And you know, I'm just here.
Speaker 4 (21:43):
I'm really I feel like my purpose.
I think God is making me.
I'm here for a reasonAbsolutely.
I could have died with my firstleg.
I almost died in my first legHeart attack.
Everything on the table.
I'm here Now.
I'm here doing it withoutwalking to an office.
(22:04):
I just put this on and I canwalk with no legs into the
office.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
I know you won't say a name and that's okay.
But what is the weirdest likeexpense item that you ever saw
something come across your desk.
That's good.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
That's a great question.
Speaker 4 (22:22):
Um, I don't care, I'll drop names.
I think the one client thatreally challenged on the
expenses that at a drop of adime I need a mansion, I need a
mansion Rent a mansion was puffywas Sean Combs.
(22:44):
I have to give him creditbecause he was a unique
entrepreneur.
That man was talented and itshows today he's still prevalent
and he has all these differentbusinesses.
He was one of my teachers man.
He was one of my teachers.
There's a lot of people thattaught me no names names.
(23:07):
Michael Eisner from Walt Disney, just doing his books and
looking at his empire wasawesome.
You know, helping out Jay-Z'sfan club and working with the
Capones like the mafia familyCapones oh my goodness.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
They didn't have any arresting write-offs in their
ass for nothing.
Speaker 4 (23:32):
I was like I had the unique ability and then meeting
these stars you know, theseunique souls I mean spending
time with left eye before shedied was amazing.
Just being with the publicenemy and history Like that's
(23:57):
history right there.
Absolutely meeting the TupacShakur family and I'll give you
a unique story.
One time I was on my own.
I represent some of the TupacShakur family and his aunt,
gloria Cox.
She has a on Hulu.
She has a documentary right now.
(24:18):
She sent somebody over to theoffice.
She didn't tell me who theperson's name is and, vice versa
, didn't tell that person who Iwas.
So this lady comes through thedoor and sits down and I'm doing
my spiel.
Hi, I'm Jennifer Smash and I'mthe captain.
Blah blah, blah.
You know.
You know, I represent Natalia'sbig.
You know giving my resume.
(24:39):
As soon as I said that, shestopped and you could feel like
the whole tension in the roomcome down.
And I'm like oh snap, did I saysomething wrong?
I said, excuse me, iseverything all right?
She says no, no, no, no, youknow what?
My brother's gonna turn in hisgrave.
And I was like who's yourbrother?
(25:02):
And she was like Tupac is mybrother.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
Oh, my God.
Speaker 4 (25:06):
And I was like, oh, I stepped back and everybody in
the office you could hear a pindrop and I was like, listen, I
understand if you get up andwalk away.
I understand she was like no, no, no, my aunt sent me here for a
reason and I guess I need toask this question.
I said what?
And she said Jennifer, didNatalia's VIG kill my brother
(25:28):
Tupac?
And I said absolutely not.
He was in the hospital with abroken leg during a time that
your brother was shot.
He didn't really have a pennyin the bank at that time because
we were just finishing up thealbum.
But I can tell you that camp tohave nothing to do with your
(25:50):
brother.
And she looked at me and shesays I believe you.
And she was light after that.
She I think she was sent therefor a reason and I'll never
forget that meeting.
I think she did find closure.
She walked out that place and Ihope I gave her a piece.
(26:12):
I know I gave her a piece.
We still talk from here.
Her brother just got a star onthe Hollywood Walk of Fame and I
think that was one of my proudmoments to be able to give her
piece.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
Yes, oh man, it was a drug-laving story.
Oh, the story, yes.
Speaker 4 (26:32):
And her aunt did that on purpose.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
I found out that her aunt did that on purpose.
Yeah, she did that on purpose.
Speaker 4 (26:40):
Shout outs to Szechua Shakur.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
Yeah, your story is amazing.
By the way, I appreciate youtelling everybody, but that's
all I got.
That's awesome, Thanks.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
Nate.
Speaker 5 (26:55):
Thank you, nate, thanks, nate, thanks for joining
us.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
You can throw it up here if you want and if anybody
else does anybody else have aquestion?
Go ahead.
Speaker 4 (27:02):
I would like to definitely, if I can, ask for my
partner, meta Clean Rupert, tocome on the stage.
He's really an important partof my story and I want to give
him some flowers.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
man, Come on up here, Meta Clean.
Jump on up here.
There you go.
Speaker 6 (27:21):
It will give you, it will put boundaries in
perspective, both figurativelyand metaphorically, with his
headset.
So yeah, that's right, it's apleasure to meet you, pleasure
to meet you, pleasure to meetyou, pleasure to meet you.
Speaker 4 (27:34):
So I do want to and there we go, meta Clean.
He is one of the most importantpeople here, I think, in the
Metaverse world.
He's well educated, knowsexactly what this world is about
.
Without him I don't think I canarticulate my future here and
my success here with myaccounting practice and the VIP
(27:57):
Entrepreneur Academy, and sothis man is well respected and
one of the best, best, best guysout here.
Thank, you.
Speaker 6 (28:07):
Thank you very much.
I don't know if I deserve allthat, but I do really try to
help people and I think if weall start there, then I think
we'll be okay.
Yeah, let's just help eachother.
Yeah, absolutely, it's reallythat simple here.
It's really awesome.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
Yeah, it really is.
I mean, we've had people helpus here at the studio is what
we're doing, and it is it's.
We can do so much more together, and I love meeting you, Meta
Clean, I've seen you on I think.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
I've seen you on Instagram and I've seen you
Absolutely so I spent a lot oftime here, yeah so yeah we just
now got on Instagram, so butyeah, it's good to meet you in
person, so can you?
Speaker 1 (28:40):
fair to tell us a little bit like what you're
doing in Horizons.
Speaker 6 (28:44):
Yeah, so I think when I started in December 2021, I
came in like everybody else,really wide eyed and thinking I
can take over the world with mycreativity.
I am a creative.
I have a background inphotography.
I used to shoot for a lot ofthe magazines in New York, I've
been a graphic artistphotographer and I kind of
combined all of that in one,which led us to get an artist
(29:06):
signed with Dr Dre and AftermathRecords for a pretty sizable
deal.
But you know, as fate have it,once money's involved, people's
feelings change, and herfeelings change towards the
management of her career, and sowe got sent home.
So you know, but to get therewas truly a blessing all in
itself, like I had no businessbeing in that room with that
(29:26):
caliber of talent, but then Istarted believing that I should
be there.
Good.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
Why not me right so why not anybody?
Speaker 6 (29:35):
But it's kind of led my life into kind of how I live
every day, like just believingthat anything is possible.
But some of those possibilitieshave to come with the people
that you surround yourself withand being good to people,
Because if you're good tosomebody it's gonna come back on
you.
It might not be tomorrow or 100years from now, but if you're
(29:56):
generally good and not forwanting to receive any type of
reward for it, but just helppeople reach their goals.
And I was presented with anopportunity which kind of
kickstarted all of that right, Iwas in the right place at the
right time.
My cousin was an assistant toan editor in chief for one of
the biggest music magazines inNew York, so she had complete
(30:17):
access to everything.
And I was right there alongsideher.
Honestly and I know this is aChristian based show and I'm a
Christian but I was there forthe free liquor and the women.
I'm not gonna lie.
I was 20, I was 20 somethingyears old and I just happened to
know how to use a camera, so itcame in handy, so I got to
enjoy.
(30:37):
You know, before I was marriedI got to drink for free and
party with celebrities and getpaid to do it, because I was
taking pictures and saying itwas work.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
We've all got real life stories.
I mean that's part of our life,right, and I love that you felt
comfortable to be real aboutthat, because I mean, hey, we
all got a pass and I love tohear where your heart is today
and to help people, because itis who you surround yourself
with can really change thedirection that you're going to.
Speaker 6 (31:08):
Yeah, and who's not going with being a different
person than you were five yearsago?
There's nothing wrong with that.
Oh gosh, yeah, definitely.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
Sorry, this thing's going crazy.
You know, I hope you all heardthat.
I think that was such animportant thing that you said
about you know you had thisopportunity and then it was
taken away from you and you justlooked at it like, well, I'm
glad I had that.
You know it made you a betterperson in what you're doing.
That's so important because Ithink sometimes something
happens for us that's good inour life and we just hold on to
(31:35):
that thing like it's the onlything we've got.
But you can use it as a steppingstone and continue moving
forward and, you know, let thatgrow you into the person you're
becoming and not get wrapped upin being mad that it's gone now,
you know just be thankful forwhat it was and now move on to
better things.
Speaker 6 (31:53):
Yeah, and I feel like , first of all, we never
understand God's story, right?
We?
Think we can explain him andwe're fools for even trying to
attempt to.
But you know, we know that heputs us through these things.
Sometimes he's unbearablethings.
Listen, nothing I'veexperienced is unbearable.
There've been some traumaticstories, but Sure, but he meets
(32:14):
us where we are right.
He puts us through these thingsthat we shouldn't overcome, but
yet we do and we come outcompletely different people
after it.
Right?
He doesn't do that to peoplethat he considers weak or can't
handle the burden, he puts itreally on the people he believes
can.
That's my opinion of who canhandle the burden because those
failures that I have, now I cancommunicate with people about
(32:37):
that, right.
And when I, when I movedthrough the space, when I
decided that I wanted to buildan empire of creativity in here
and then realized I didn't liketo build, which was an oxymoron,
it was unfortunate, right, but.
But I knew some of myexperiences could could
hopefully inspire or at leasthelp somebody figure out what
their goals and dreams are.
So, even at the expense of kindof putting the stuff that I
(32:58):
want to do on the side which isfine, because I get probably
more pleasure out of doing thispart of the business than doing
anything for myself, right, Ijust know that my failures could
help somebody get through astory and know that just
failures, just learning, that's,that's all it is.
Don't.
Don't think it's the end.
It's just the beginning of whatnot to do the next time.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
I love that I think that's what we need so much of
that today, because so manypeople like they want to teach
from their success.
But there's so much more tolearn from learning from each
other's failures, because whenwe try to teach just from
success all the time, peoplealways think that I'm not good
enough, I'm always messing up,I'm failing, and that's never
going to happen.
But anybody that's successful.
(33:40):
There is a lot of failure thattook place to get there and
that's a crucial, crucial partof your story.
I've seen it all.
Speaker 4 (33:48):
I think that's why this course that I'm doing is
based on a lot of entrepreneurs'errors, people making errors
and failing at stuff.
I, I, you know they.
They got back up and wassuccessful.
I mean, those are.
The real drive of why I'm doingthis is to let everybody know
(34:09):
yeah, you can do it, you can getup.
You will make some errors, butI know some of the formulas that
you can avoid it.
Speaker 3 (34:16):
Now, I think, it's so important what you said to like
even earlier, when you said youknow you're, you're accepting
your situation every day, and Ithink that's important.
You know, I think other peoplesee someone who's successful in
some way in their life and theyjust look and think, well,
they've got it all together.
I'm never going to get there,but with you being willing to
(34:38):
talk about those things that youdeal with still every day, it
gives people hope, like, okay,like.
Speaker 4 (34:44):
I can do that too.
Speaker 3 (34:46):
I can take what I have right now and be faithful
with it and just keep movingforward.
I love that.
Speaker 6 (34:53):
I tell you, mrs Killaby, I will much follow
somebody who has been broken andfigured it out than somebody
that's never had to strugglethrough it.
Speaker 5 (35:00):
Yeah, See why I partner up with him.
Speaker 6 (35:05):
Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (35:06):
I mean, he's glowing purple for crying out loud.
Why would we follow him?
Speaker 6 (35:11):
God's best disciples were the broken ones.
Those are the ones that spreadthe message like nobody else
right, they weren't the perfectpeople.
They were the broken peoplethat that had to go through some
stuff and come out of it to beincredible so it's fine.
It's okay to feral man.
It's okay to feral.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
Right, I know that you guys.
I want to thank you guys alltoo, for coming out and hanging
in here, even though you knowwe're down here.
This is so strange, like tryingto run this show downstairs
instead of up in the main studio.
But, like you said, like I meanhonestly, like when it kept
kicking us all out, I was like,oh my gosh, are we not going to
be able to do this?
And I was like, no, we got tothink of a way to make this
happen, because this is animportant story to get out here
(35:49):
and see.
Here we are, we're doing itdownstairs and we made it work,
and that's part of not giving up, like things, even in horizons,
things are going to be thrownat us.
We're going to have to be ableto pivot and work with it.
But we're here for purpose.
You know for those of you thatmaybe this is your first time at
Killer B Studios you know ourfocus here is connect, share and
transform.
We want to connect with people.
This is a place to connect topeople, meet new people, share
(36:11):
real life stories andexperiences.
This can be wins, this can bestruggles, challenges.
To help help encourage eachother, because you know again, a
lot of us are going throughsimilar things and you never
know who your story is going tohelp.
All in hopes to transformpeople's lives.
Help your, give you hope.
Give you hope.
It's such an important thingthat we need to be here for each
other and I love thistechnology allows us to do it.
(36:34):
I love to hear what you're doingin here, jen.
I can't wait to see all thestuff that you have planned
ahead.
I wish we could do more of theQ&A, but I know it's kind of
complicated down here, but wewill go upstairs and just second
and take a selfie and thenJen's going to drop a portal.
But, jen, before we wrap up, Iwould actually Nate dogs got a
question.
Speaker 6 (36:52):
I'm just going to say I'm going to give Jen back the
stage.
But I do want to say one thingabout her is that is that as
professional and as she is andher experience and resume that
she comes with, she doesn't leadwith that.
You would never know that andespecially in this space, with
the amount of egos that wesometimes run into, you would
expect somebody to be reallybraggadocious and lead with that
(37:14):
and expect to get a certainamount of respect or notoriety
because of that.
But the reason I'm gravitatedto her is one because we're both
from the Bronx, we're similarage, which is no longer 25.
But she really leads with theheart first and I'm attracted to
people who have that philosophy.
(37:35):
You can make money anyway in amillion ways and you can do it
in a really horrible way or youcan do it in a really
pleasurable way.
That's really intent on makingsomebody's life different.
So as long as she will have mearound, I'll be here, so I love
it.
Speaker 3 (37:52):
I love it.
Thanks, medical, thank you,thank you, no problem, thank you
, thank you, thank you, thankyou.
Thank you for joining us.
Man Appreciate it, no problem.
Speaker 1 (37:59):
Yeah, appreciate it, man.
All right, so Nate's got aquestion.
Speaker 4 (38:01):
So let me check in the mail.
Speaker 1 (38:02):
Your check's in the mail your check's in the mail.
All right, I'm gonna throw Natethe voice ball here.
Here you go, nate.
All right, nate, welcome back.
So what do you got for us, man?
You got a question or thought?
Speaker 2 (38:16):
Yeah, I got a question for Jen how do I become
an entrepreneur?
Speaker 4 (38:22):
How Well.
You have to come to the courseand figure it out.
I'm going to.
If you take the course, we'llvet your idea, we'll give you
the tools that you need andwe'll make you.
You're going to work in theclass, though.
Do your homework, take sometests and get you really vetted
for those investors to back you.
(38:43):
So you have to come with anidea, a clear idea, a passion
for it, and be ready to roll upyour sleeves and work at it, and
then I will make sure.
I guide you and give you thetools to be successful.
I'll give you valuableinformation for profits.
That's the idea.
Speaker 1 (39:01):
Awesome.
Next thing, though yeah, thankyou, the class is entirely
metaverse based.
Speaker 4 (39:06):
Yes, it's entirely metaverse based.
The homework and stuff is ofcourse on your computer and
outside but the class isdefinitely here, and what's the
unique thing about the class isI also bring in the
professionals, experts in theirfield, to speak about.
So when we're talking about lawand business, I'm not going to
(39:28):
be the one that's going tofacilitate it.
I'm going to have a businesslawyer in there so that you can
have a direct information,directly right from the lawyer's
mouth and you can ask him.
He can articulate the rightanswers for you.
Speaker 3 (39:42):
Oh, that's fascinating, that's awesome.
Speaker 1 (39:45):
I love that.
Speaker 4 (39:45):
And, of course, mr Killer B.
We talked about the marketingsegment of the class and I
invited him to be our guestinstructor to talk about
marketing man, because I don'tknow.
Speaker 1 (40:01):
Yeah, a lot of people here don't know.
They just think we're Killer Bstudios, but we actually have a
business Killer B marketing andwe actually work with
broadcasters in business and allpeople around the world with
marketing and digital andstrategies and purpose.
Speaker 2 (40:13):
So, yeah, and I don't do that.
I do love to be yeah, so I lovethat.
Speaker 1 (40:16):
Scholar.
You have something you want toadd?
Yeah, here, I'm going to throwyou the ball.
There you go.
Oh no, oh no.
Speaker 3 (40:20):
Hold on, I think it knocked you.
Go over and grab it now.
Speaker 1 (40:23):
There you go, there you go, ok Game.
Thanks for joining us.
Speaker 5 (40:27):
Scholar, it's good to be back.
Hello Jen, so happy to be herewith you and good to be good to
see you again, Mr and Mrs.
Speaker 2 (40:36):
Killer B.
Speaker 3 (40:36):
Great to see you.
Speaker 5 (40:38):
Yes, yes, yes.
I just want to let you knowthat Jen has been inspirational
for me in my life in getting mybusiness in order as I'm moving
forward, and she's been a wealthof information and I can't wait
to continue to build mybusiness with her in hand.
Speaker 2 (40:54):
So I just want to know.
Speaker 5 (40:56):
I got to do my homework.
Speaker 2 (40:57):
I'm still doing my homework, yeah.
Speaker 5 (41:01):
So I have signed up for her for your business
classes, right?
And I did have one questionthat I think might be
interesting Are you going to betalking about finance, because I
saw that that was one of thequestions about investment funds
.
Absolutely.
Speaker 4 (41:21):
Absolutely.
So we're going to be working onyour performance, so you have
to do some financials and we'regoing to have to incorporate
getting alone and putting thatwithin your performer or find
out what's the best avenue foryou.
I have some investor friendsthat will be coming to the
(41:43):
graduation and you'll be able topitch your business plan to
them and your idea and thenhopefully someone will fund you.
But yeah, that class I forgotis week seven.
We get down and dirty figuringout your numbers, which is more
important, but understandingthem and being able to interpret
(42:06):
them to the reader, it's veryimportant.
I will make sure that you'regoing to be straight with that
and figure out how much you needto ask for.
Do you know how much you needto ask to start a business?
We're going to figure that downand break it down for you.
Speaker 5 (42:23):
That's awesome, Jen.
Yeah, thank you.
Speaker 3 (42:26):
Feels like behind the scenes at Shark Tank.
Behind the scenes, yeah, behindthe scenes at Shark Tank.
Speaker 1 (42:30):
So OK, so, blue, just let you know you're muted.
So if you want to unmuteyourself, that way we can hear
you there you go.
Now you're unmuted.
Hey, thanks for joining us hey,hey, hey.
Speaker 3 (42:42):
Thanks for being here .
Speaker 2 (42:43):
I just want to say that I plan on being a future
alumni of Jen.
Speaker 6 (42:49):
Smash's class.
Speaker 2 (42:50):
Nice.
Speaker 3 (42:51):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (42:53):
So my question is what has been worrying me pretty
much is that when I had mycolon surgery and I pretty much
lost the house, the car, medicalbills stacked up with my credit
issue.
Am I going to be able to lookfavorable to individuals who
(43:20):
want to invest because of whathappens to me?
Speaker 4 (43:24):
Good question.
Maybe not an institution of abank per se, but there's angel
investors in there.
You just have to find the rightone that works with you and
they can see your plan and seethe future so you might have a
little higher interest rate.
I'm not going to lie to you.
It might be a challenge butyeah, there are people out there
(43:45):
that will invest in you,especially knowing your
circumstances.
You'll be able to expand.
Hey, I had surgery, got alittle bit.
They'll have that understandingso they can look at your credit
differently because they willunderstand your personal issues
and stuff.
Believe me, I know I lost a legand I had to ask for funding
(44:10):
and my story helped me so theywere able to not look at that
and look at the business planand stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (44:23):
OK, that's great.
Speaker 5 (44:24):
So yeah, there is a possibility for everything.
Speaker 2 (44:29):
I believe in the process and I think it'll work
through, and I just want to makesure that everybody has a
clothing tag with our company.
Speaker 1 (44:43):
Awesome, awesome.
Thank you, blue, thank you,thank you All right.
Speaker 4 (44:47):
Blue.
I need to get your email when Ihave a chance.
Speaker 1 (44:50):
So, jen, can you let us all know like so?
Speaker 4 (44:52):
I can send you a registration form.
Speaker 1 (44:54):
How can people connect with you?
How can people connect with you?
Speaker 4 (44:58):
Oh yeah, so in the world I have my information
labeled.
You can text me or send myemail addresses in there so you
can go to the world and write itdown.
Located on LinkedIn, myprofessional page.
My name is Jennifer Smash, soif you Google me I will come up
(45:21):
as well.
I kind of look like my avatarback in the days 10 years ago,
so which I kept that picture upthere and I'm listed so you can
find me.
Google me, look me up and I'mthere.
Speaker 1 (45:39):
Awesome.
Now how can we find out aboutyour, the classes and stuff
that's coming up?
Speaker 5 (45:44):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (45:45):
I heard people saying like they've registered and
stuff like so right now, is.
Speaker 4 (45:49):
I'm taking registration.
There is a vetting process thatI do Not.
Anybody can come in the class.
You got to be very seriousabout taking the class.
There's expectations.
I have some real expectationsthat you have to take all nine
weeks.
It's free.
It's free.
(46:09):
So if I'm giving my time to you, you got to give your time to
me.
It's a very unique small class.
I do this purposely because webuild a community amongst
ourselves and those other.
There are eight people to ourclass.
Those other seven people areyour potential customers.
So in the class we're sharingideas, but you're also testing
(46:32):
it out with some real customersin the class and so, with my
unique perspective of my historyand knowledge, we really work
it out.
There's a lot of participationand there's a lot of work.
So having your own business isa lot of work.
Speaker 1 (46:53):
You should know that right, that's a lot of work.
Speaker 4 (46:55):
Oh yeah, your family has to understand you have to
have a good support.
Being an entrepreneur is theworst time of your life and the
best time of your life.
Speaker 1 (47:04):
The best time.
Speaker 4 (47:05):
Yeah, that's true, so I'm very realistic about who I
choose in the class and whatclasses are starting in
September and in my world, allthe information on each week.
I have it narrated by thelovely British candy.
She kind of breaks down vocallyin what the classes are about,
(47:29):
so you'll come in the world.
You can stand on the little boxand listen to what that week's
course is about.
Speaker 1 (47:37):
Awesome, awesome, well cool.
She's going to drop a portalafter we take our selfie
upstairs and you guys can gocheck it out.
Jen, I know we don't get to dothe outro music or anything,
since we're down here.
We have no sound board downhere, but that's all right.
I would love for you to like.
You saw, I asked people toclose with a closing thought.
I'm going to do a little bitdifferent than asking you for a
closing thought.
(47:57):
What I'm going to ask you isThank you, Lord Jesus.
Yes, with everything that youshared.
Speaker 3 (48:02):
Answer prayer that fast.
Speaker 1 (48:04):
With everything that you shared and the things that
you, what you've gone throughand where you are today.
What advice would you give toothers facing life challenges or
setbacks?
Speaker 4 (48:15):
I think you need to stop and get centered and you
know, like I said, feel what youneed to feel, but get back up.
Do not give up.
Don't give up.
I post this one picture of abird who's trying to eat a frog,
(48:36):
but the frog is choking theneck of the bird.
Just don't give up, man.
Believe in yourself and stayfocused.
I'm very spiritual, you know.
Speak to your ancestors, speakto God for some strength and
just believe in yourself and getout of your way.
You can do it, just get up, getup.
Speaker 1 (48:58):
Yes, I love that.
Get out of your way, becausethat's what happens a lot.
We're in our own way.
I love that.
You guys, everybody thank youfor joining us tonight at Killer
.
Speaker 4 (49:07):
Beast Studios.
Thank you guys, I appreciateyou.
Speaker 1 (49:09):
Thanks for tuning in to today's podcast episode.
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