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October 15, 2023 20 mins

In deze aflevering van NEW VIBES ONLY praten we met Bokke8 over zijn EP “SWART”. 🎵

Wil je weten waarom Bokke8 Fake Love gevaarlijk vindt ? ⛔
Waarom hij een probleem kind was en welke artiesten hem inspireren? 👁️‍🗨️
Check dan nu deze aflevering en veel plezier!

Tijdcodes:

00:35 Waarom heeft Bokke8 zijn EP Swart genoemd? 
00:52 Waar haalt Bokke8 zijn motivatie en doorzettingsvermogen vandaan?
02:51 Waarom vindt Bokke8 Fake Love gevaarlijk?
03:58 Uit welke buurt komt Bokke8 en hoe vond hij het om daar op te groeien?
05:48 Wat zijn de dingen die Bokke8 vroeger deed waardoor hij dacht een probleem kind te zijn?
07:35 Hoe zorgt Bokke8 ervoor niet beïnvloed te worden door de mensen om hem heen?
08:36 Welke artiesten hebben Bokke8 geïnspireerd?
10:07 Waarom heeft Bokke8 geen featurings op dit project?
11:34 Hoe is Bokke8 ermee om gegaan toen hij het een tijdje financieel slecht had?
13:52 Wat is het moment geweest dat Bokke8 ging beseffen dat hij hardhorend was en daar iets mee is gaan doen? 
15:37 Wat voor advies heeft Bokke8 voor iemand die op dit moment hardhorend is?
16:42 Hoe gaat Bokke8 ermee om wanneer mensen zijn visie niet begrijpen?

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Welcome to New Fibes.
Only Today I'm with Bocke 8 andwe're going to talk about his
EP Zwart.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
I can tell you're in love with him.

Speaker 1 (00:29):
Bocke, you brought an EP called Zwart with the S
Right.
I think you also called it yourback.
Why did you name your EP likethat?

Speaker 3 (00:40):
It was a darker vibe.
My EP album.
I named it Zwart with the S, soI put the link down.

Speaker 1 (00:52):
In the intro you start with your struggles, your
frustrations, but in that youalso say I'm going to make it.
Where did you get theopportunity from?

Speaker 3 (01:04):
I just have my struggles, but I always had the
confidence to let it go.
When I started with music, Istopped at school.
I was going to choose music forthe whole time and that's what
I focused on.
I always believe in myself, butif you want something, you can

(01:25):
achieve it.

Speaker 1 (01:27):
What was the moment?
You thought you were going totake rap seriously and just hit
it?

Speaker 3 (01:34):
It just started as a joke.
In the studio with Matias, Iwas just doing my thing, I was
just progressing.
A friend of mine made the beatsand he went to Belgium the
Arpschreiferskamp.
I thought it was interestingand then he came back so I said
I want to go with him.
I went to Belgium, I lockedmyself up there on weekends, I

(01:56):
made tunes and then I thoughtthis is it.
I had never been able tocontinue.
When I was playing football, Istopped at a station, I stopped
at a kickbox for a year.
I just liked music.
So I thought this is my thing.

Speaker 1 (02:28):
Fake love is dangerous.
Why is it dangerous, accordingto you?

Speaker 3 (02:33):
Because you can't recognize it right away.
Sometimes I recognize it rightaway.
It can also be that it lastslong.
I've been with friends who areno longer my friends.
That's just fake love.
It's dangerous.

Speaker 1 (02:52):
So there are situations that you can face
yourself.
Yes, for sure, often.

Speaker 3 (02:57):
Fortunately, I often enjoy it because I always have a
ring with a small group, butthere are a few people who don't
sit in between.

Speaker 1 (03:06):
Yes, your circles have become a little smaller
over time.
Sometimes it's always necessary, certainly necessary.
In that track you also sayfirst of all, family, the hood.
What is the reason why it's soimportant for you?
Because often rappers want toset themselves up first and then

(03:27):
they're really good.
They say, okay, I did this formy mother or that, but you're
saying it now.

Speaker 3 (03:34):
My mother always took care of me.
My mother still takes care ofme.
So if I can do something, it'sthat she just takes care of me.
And if I can find a place wherewe've always been I live my
whole life in Amsterdam-Nord I'dlike to stay there, but if I
can find a nice house, I'd liketo do that- Exactly.

Speaker 1 (03:57):
How did you grow up in Amsterdam?

Speaker 3 (04:00):
I moved once.
I first lived in New-Dame nearWaterlandplein and then there
were all the big flats and itwas completely different now.
But I always had it all in mymind.
You know, outside there weremany young people.
I had to take it out of thehouse.
Eventually I moved.

(04:22):
Now I live in New-Dame, but inanother place.
Here it's very quiet, wherepeople meet each other, and I
live there in peace.

Speaker 1 (04:34):
What are the things that make Amsterdam-Nord so
typical?
What are those things that yousay like, hey, I said that once
in a row.

Speaker 3 (04:41):
But Amsterdam-Nord has a lot of Tokis Do you get it
?
Just real Amsterdamers, and Ifeel that, honestly, I live near
Holland, but only Dutch peoplethere.
Dutch people, dutch people,yeah, I really like it.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
I'm honest.
I don't want you to be happy,bro.

(05:26):
Hard work is dead normal In thetime.
You're dead normal.
Don't think about her, butwho's the one who's taking care
of her?
You don't care about shit.
You don't care about shit.
You don't care about your shit,okay, but what if she comes
with a brand new pay?
It's click, click, boom.

Speaker 1 (05:41):
I also have the chance to do shit, but I'm not
planning to do shit, then you'replanning to do shit and just
leave your plan for a bitch.
In your track problem you writedown how easy it is for you To
get into the problems you're in,and you also talked about
having a problem with your oldjob.
What were the things that madeyou a problem?

Speaker 3 (06:05):
I started at the elementary school.
At the elementary school I waswith a certain group of guys and
we just went, yeah, do a lot ofthings, throwing chairs,
fighting with guys, andeventually I went to the middle
school the other day.

(06:26):
It didn't go well.
I was only sent out there thefirst year.
I think I was sent out 70-80times or so.
Then I went over to the second,from the second I went over to
the third and that year I wasalso sent out of school Because
I had fights and I just I'vealways been there for aggressive

(06:49):
courses.
I was just a very difficult guyand I think I just became a
teacher in a short time and nowit's completely different.
Now I'm just calm.

Speaker 1 (07:04):
Because of what you were?
Was it the influence you hadfrom others?

Speaker 3 (07:10):
I think more it is.
I have, of course, made certainthings.
Everyone has made their ownthings, and at school you will
see quickly who is kind ofself-person, and then you will
surround yourself with it andthen you will only stick
together To do more, and I thinkit's so amazing.

Speaker 1 (07:33):
Yes, exactly because you also have a line where you
say I am surrounded by dealersand shooters, but yes, those are
people who can bring you to awhole different path, because
you may want to, but how do youkeep your own path?

Speaker 3 (07:52):
To say it's not good to be on the same team as them.
To say it's better to choosesomething else.
To use my own healthyunderstanding, I know I have
talent and I can achieve that.

Speaker 2 (08:09):
I can't complain.
It's always better.
The big money is almost certain.
The guy next to me is smart butyou think he's crazy.
He's coming on the ride.
See a girl on my snap.
She knows how to skate, but shecan barely know me.
I'm active but I'm going toquit.

Speaker 1 (08:22):
Tell me where you are if I'm in my location Like
Afwezig is my favorite tune onthe project the beat and the
combination of how you work onit.
It's super hard.
What inspired you?
You have a different sound thanwhat is now.
Thanks, how did you getinspired to go that way?

Speaker 3 (08:47):
America.
I always listened to Englishmusic first.
I always thought that was hard.
I think what you listen toinspires you automatically.

Speaker 1 (08:58):
I always listened to English music.

Speaker 3 (08:59):
First.
At some point I only listenedto American artists and then I
thought this is it.
I used to listen to Chief Keefeand Lil Durk, but then that
music was different, especiallyLil Durk when it was just a trio

(09:20):
.
I used to listen to him andthen I realized that his whole
emotions changed, but I stillfeel him.
I think that's super hard.
Lil Durk inspired me to do this.
Then I went on to watch Lil DJ.

(09:41):
I listened to E-book you knowwhat I mean, and that's the
people I get inspired by.
I listen to them a lot.
Some people hate me.
They call me AliExpress Lil DJ.
I can only see that as acompliment.

Speaker 1 (10:00):
I feel it too, so you keep going with that sound.

Speaker 3 (10:05):
And you keep going.

Speaker 1 (10:07):
What we noticed is that you don't have any future
in this EP.
What's the reason?

Speaker 3 (10:13):
I'm going to be honest with you.
I already put an EP on it.
Some people were checked for itand then everyone said
something.
I can't say everyone.
An officer jumped on it and itwas just a boy's life, but there
are people who just let me gofor what it is.

(10:35):
So with my new EP I thoughtfirst I just put people on it.
I just put people on it.

Speaker 1 (10:41):
I kept everyone off it.

Speaker 3 (10:43):
I just put them on their own.
I wanted to introduce thatsound and I just wanted to do it
myself, Not with other peoplebut with my tunes so that I can
listen to it.
I think it's a kind ofstatement.

Speaker 1 (11:04):
Yes, it works.
It's not that I'm missing afuture.

Speaker 2 (11:06):
You just fill everything up perfectly.

Speaker 1 (11:10):
I'm from a flat bro, you walk with snakes and I put
my tie on like a candle In myeyes.

Speaker 2 (11:14):
You fire.
I'm really angry Because theydon't come near me because I
have smoke.
I said come near me because Ihave smoke.
I want to go away because I wasstanding on the red.
I don't wear a bitch, I onlyhave a cash.
Then I'm broke.
The gold records with mybitches are gold diggers.
I don't want anything now.
We are all bitches.
My bro said fuck this, I'mgoing to rap.
Let the street go.

Speaker 1 (11:33):
In your track Dead Broke.
Do you have a time when it justwent a little less financially?
How did you deal with it?

Speaker 3 (11:44):
That's why I came here, because I didn't focus on
music.
I didn't have any work.
I went to school.
So that's the problem.
I was just sleeping in thestudio.
I just stayed in the studiomaking tunes every day.
The studio was at my grandma'shouse.
As I said before, my grandmajust cooked for me.
I have a very close friendgroup the boys.

(12:08):
I have a lover.
They all helped me through thattime.
If I didn't have something, ifI wanted something, it was just
arranged.
That's why I would always checkthe boys when I can miss them.

Speaker 1 (12:25):
What were the things from those times that you think
back now and that you think shit.
I never want to make that upagain, bro, that sounds so sad,
you know.

Speaker 2 (12:34):
I get it.

Speaker 3 (12:35):
For example, in my first few clips I just changed
my path from other people.
Yeah, you know right?
Yeah, now it's changed, luckily.
It's just like that.

Speaker 1 (12:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (12:47):
And uh, yeah, what else?
I just have things.
You know, people just helped mewith my shit because I had to
fix it.
Yeah, I went for a while, forexample yeah, I can't really say
what I was going to do, but Ineeded a car, and then Mati just
bought me a car.
You know, he just said look,just move.
Yeah, exactly that kind ofthing.

(13:07):
I'll never forget that man.

Speaker 1 (13:10):
Yeah, yeah, it's good to keep that to itself.
Yeah, the reason why I ask isthat people will watch now and
they think, yeah, I don't haveit now.
But they do know that they canget it out.

Speaker 3 (13:22):
Yeah, for sure, man.
You always have to look up manPost-for-Hard.

Speaker 2 (13:26):
I didn't get anything and I've lost so much.
And what's love?
Only pooters.
I've got all over my ears.
Fuck with myself in a fight.
I'm a fight born.
Sometimes I live behind thefront, but I always look forward
.
My G-sepass is never frozen, sothe strip is slid.
We started from naked bikers todifferent whips.
I only want your bitch.

(13:46):
Who's just different.
I'm with a different gang.
I'm with a different clique.

Speaker 1 (13:52):
In your hard-to-hear track you just have something
about a time when nobody wantedto hear you.
You didn't want to take it, youhoped it was hot as they say.
Yeah, man, but how did thatcome about?

Speaker 3 (14:06):
Yeah, that was the time when my head didn't work,
man.
I just did my thing and what Isaid.
I was aggressive and everything, and everyone was looking at me
, but I just let it go.
I'm serious, I did that and Ijust listened to nobody.
I just kept doing my thing.
And to make that happen withthe adults, at some point you

(14:28):
just realized that shit is allunnecessary.
You can just be normal and,when it's necessary, activate it
, yeah, yeah.
So yeah, that's it, man, and Ithink when you listen to a guy,
nobody People say it's importantto me.
I thought I'm young, now nobodycan judge what I'm doing now

(14:50):
through my lifetime.
I thought I'm going to do itlater, but no, what you do then
is your future, you know.
Yeah, right, I just didn'trealize that, man, I'm telling
you the whole time.

Speaker 1 (15:01):
Yeah, indeed, there are often people who think in
their lifetime that I would havedone that when I was young or
that I would have done this.
But it's always looking back ofcourse Right.

Speaker 3 (15:11):
It's all about how you get it back right.
I'm going to school again soon.

Speaker 1 (15:15):
Okay, you already know what you're going to do.

Speaker 3 (15:17):
Yeah, herman Brod, when I'm taken, you're already
taken.
I don't have any expectations,bro.
That's the theory, do youunderstand?
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (15:27):
No, but I think Herman Brod has just put his
music on and references and thenyou come to me that's my truth.

Speaker 3 (15:35):
No, no, no, we're just going to hope.

Speaker 1 (15:37):
But what advice would you give to kids who are just
listening to you right now?

Speaker 3 (15:43):
Yeah, that's really hard, man, Because to me
everyone has family instances.
Everyone has tried to make medo things, but at that moment
you just don't want to listen.
It always sounds like, yeah,those parents always say that
and they're lying.
But now I just realize it'sreally like that.

(16:04):
If someone talks to you likethat, just listen.
Now when I talk to people, Ireally listen carefully and
think about those things rightaway.
And that's it, man.
Someone only has a goodintention when they say to you
what you can do better.

Speaker 2 (16:20):
Yeah, this waggy, brand new show.
She's wearing that.
I've been in a corner fornothing, but now she's playing
her own.
I've slept there for days, nodreams but chasing Some people
don't feel me, but I've gotsides to your mind.
I don't even care about yourlaughter, so maybe I'll be your
face.
I'm the same age as you.
I'm going to love Beijing.
I don't give a shit.
I want something back.
I see that shit as a lane.

(16:41):
It's time to shine, because allthese days were training, the
last track own Kaya or own Wag.

Speaker 1 (16:47):
You're not understanding your vision, but
you're still going through it.
How difficult is that?
I've made that up myself.
I wanted to do something andpeople were going to judge me.
What are you doing with it?
And then they just say now Isee you, can you help me with
the same thing?
How did that work for you?

Speaker 3 (17:11):
The same as you.
People don't believe in youbecause it works.
Maybe it's not crazy If someonesays to me I'm going to be an
artist and you haven't doneanything yet, I would think you
know what I'm saying.

(17:31):
Of course I would support you,but if someone does something
different than others, Iunderstand that you're going to
think you know it's not going towork.
And then when is it going to be?
I understand it on the one hand, but it's difficult, you know.
I just realized that even mymother because I quit school, so

(17:55):
my mother also always said thatmusic is nothing.
You know, at some point when Iwas going to make a movie before
I signed, she saw it.
Okay, you're really working onit.
You'd rather do somethingserious than be busy with
nothing.
So then she was just behind meand now she's my biggest fan.

Speaker 1 (18:14):
That's all right, so you can keep walking your own
path.

Speaker 3 (18:19):
Yes, I know for sure.
Just do my own thing.
Look at no one.
Look at myself.

Speaker 1 (18:25):
Yes, man, just about walking your own path.
What's next?

Speaker 3 (18:31):
The album is on the way, man.
I said it a few times and thisis going to be.
Ep was so hard I say it myselfbut this is going to be
something different, man, and Ithink I'm just going to let
something happen.

Speaker 2 (18:58):
I'm curious, nice man .

Speaker 1 (19:23):
The guitars in between are really nice, yes,
and a new one?

Speaker 3 (19:27):
Yes, man.

Speaker 1 (19:28):
Nice good track.
Love man bro.
So this is going to be thefirst single.

Speaker 3 (19:32):
Yes, man.

Speaker 1 (19:32):
Or are you going to keep playing?

Speaker 3 (19:33):
for that we're doing, probably the intro probably
Okay dope man, we talked aboutblack.

Speaker 1 (19:40):
we heard a new tune.
We're going to keep going, youknow you're doing great and for
the people who are watching,check out black and keep on
playing.

Speaker 3 (19:52):
Go stream that.
Go stream that.
I'm going to be very busy.
Thanks, man.
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