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October 15, 2023 19 mins

In deze aflevering van NEW VIBES ONLY praten we met Mael over zijn EP “Liefde Is Niet Simpel”. ❤️🎶

Wil je weten wat Mael vind van de R&B muziek die de laatste jaren wordt gemaakt? 👁️‍🗨️
Waarom hij Hef de GOAT noemt en hoe hij het vond om samen te werken met Latifah? 🐐 Check dan nu deze aflevering.

Tijdscodes:

00:55 Zijn die situaties waarover Mael zingt en rapt ook echt dingen die hij zelf hebt meegemaakt?
02:29 Waar haalt Mael de inspiratie vandaan voor het maken zijn tracks?
03:51 Waarom noemt hij Hef de GOAT?
06:10 Hoe is Mael's samenwerking met Latifah op het nummer "Leg Mij Uit" tot stand gekomen?
08:06 Waar komt Mael vandaan?
11:24 Wat is het verhaal achter zijn track "Het Is Over"?
13:37 Hoe behoud Mael zijn eigen sound ondanks dat hij werkt met veel verschillende producers?
14:29 Met welke producers wilt Mael nog samenwerken?
14:56 Hoe beslist Mael welke nummers hij uitbrengt?
16:42 Wat vind Mael van de R&B muziek die de laatste jaren word gemaakt in Nederland?
18:03 Wat kunnen we in de toekomst nog verwachten van Mael?

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Welcome to New Fibes.
Only today I'm with Mael andwe're going to talk about his EP
.

Speaker 2 (00:22):
Please blunt.
I'm just a little green and Ican't go over it.
You know, if I can do what youcan do too Was in.
My self-righteousness wasn'topen to me.
I was going to steal myselfwith that fake.
You're that old rose.
I have to go on.
You know my heart is cold ashell In December.

(00:42):
In December.

Speaker 1 (00:46):
But, el, you dropped some new vibes for us.
I love Disney Simple.
I think it's something thatpeople can find On this project.
You have moments where it goeswell In love.
Where you're in love,everything goes well, and there
are moments when it just goes alittle less, that you're a bit
of a heartbroken.

(01:06):
Are there things about yoursync that really make you feel
like you're part of it?

Speaker 3 (01:12):
Yes, certainly, I think 80% of what I've done with
these things, but on the otherhand, it's just situations that
I might have seen or where Ijust got up at that moment, and
it's also just a period wherelove wasn't really simple.
So I think that's why I wasable to make these pockers and

(01:35):
that it was ultimately the ideaAt the beginning.
It was the first idea to make awhole love EP About that on the
web, but it just went like thatand I think that's how it
should be Crazy and Love, giveme a little bit of the Casey

(02:18):
Jojo vibe, the old school R&Bvibe.

Speaker 1 (02:28):
Where do you get your inspiration from making your
tracks?

Speaker 3 (02:32):
Anyway, from old school R&B.
I used to play R&B in the carLike R Kelly, casey, jojo, all
those people, and then I waslistening to them and watching
them and I felt like I might bedoing that too.
So there's a lot of inspirationfrom that and the things I see
in my daily life, people aroundme where I get a lot of

(02:55):
inspiration and I think that'swhy I'm back in the R&B In the
Netherlands because of my syncand how I convey it.
Crazy and Love is that rock ofall both.

Speaker 2 (03:36):
So what's up, my friend?
Why are you all in the dark?
My ashes left me like I'mnothing.

Speaker 1 (03:44):
I feel you down, but that is something I wanna know.
In your track FTH, you alsothrow a few bars.
You're a little bit on the edge.
You have a line there.
I'm the goat like Bandus.
For the people who don'tunderstand, you can explain what
you mean by that.

Speaker 3 (04:06):
Bandus is just a hip band.
Why I say that is because he'ssomeone in the Dutch scene In
the game that is 10 years orlonger.
He's relevant and people alsosay about him that he's a goat
and what he's like.
I wanna just do that and Ithink that, as an artist, that's

(04:29):
what I have to say about him.
The important thing is that I'mstill a relevant person over
the next 10 years and that itcan lead to success.

Speaker 2 (05:02):
Yes, you're an egg there, it's just a piece of cake
.
You're my wins one.
You're my medal.
What I'm for, deem, come to whoI am.
Yeah, nobody can say Fall inlove with you again.
Yeah, do so much, lovey, then Igive you support for you and
your friends.
When you're the love food song,you're the lovey, lovey, big
wheeler, baby fire, fuck thepilling Coney, coney, full of
good times.
So me, niggas this is in funny,funny Mockin ring calls You're

(05:24):
my major.
Why don't you suffocate me,baby, that will I do.
Why don't you suffocate me,baby?
Yes, nobody else owns You'repower.
Team me, my, your new ability,my melanin, goddess for you.
I'm singing a song, my heart.
Now I'm in the sun, but it'slike I'm in the dark.
I was a little beginner, butI'm not a nerd.
You're lying.
You're doing it right, but whatabout my words?

(05:44):
You're lying to me.
Why are you so in love, love,you know what that costs.
You blow my mind.
I'm like a steamboat, butfeelings, they are fucking hot.
You're lying to me.
You're doing so my best, butwhy am I not good with that?
You're lying to me.
I got a ex-female love.
You're lying to me.

(06:04):
You know what that costs.
Papi is the flyer.
She's a kring and I'm with you.
I swear it's got you.
You're doing.

Speaker 1 (06:10):
On your track.
Let me out.
You have a super cool future Ofone of the artists in the
Netherlands, which I think isreally cool.
And then we have it aboutLatifah.
How has that cooperationhappened?

Speaker 3 (06:23):
I met Latifah two or three years ago In the studio at
Reefers I think.
I was often there and it justclicks where a good vibe,
because they're on the righttrack and they just feel my
music.
And when I made that pop songLast year we just DMed each
other Like you might want to dothat pop song.

(06:44):
I sent that tune and theyreally liked it and it was
really enthusiastic.
So they just do it.
They just tap that verse andit's just history.

Speaker 1 (06:57):
You also had thoughts about that track.

Speaker 3 (07:00):
I had the same thoughts about that.
I thought I should have afeminine voice About that.

Speaker 2 (07:31):
So let's see what gives no better option than the
brush.
What Baby?
I'm not a fan of coffee, nomore.
I'm solo with your one bracket.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm not a fan of the world.
Yeah, yeah, I'm not a fan ofthe world.
Cash, cash.
I don't want to be a bad man.

(07:52):
I'm a bad ass man.
Don't be lovin'.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Balan,yeah, she, balan, yeah, Balan,
she a girl, she calling me, shebe callin' her my name.
I'm a fan of the girl.
I'm the only one.
You know I'm a middle-aged andyou really feel my heart's a
beam.

Speaker 1 (08:07):
You're track rockin'.
You say I'm not from there.
Yeah, but where exactly do youcome from?
You know?
From the people who don't knowyou.

Speaker 3 (08:17):
Yeah, I come from Harlem.
I'm from Harlem North and I'mnot born.
I was born in Friesland.
But then my father came to meand asked me to play football.
So we just had a little timethere and then, yeah, we did,
but yeah, I just couldn't.
Nobody helped me, nobody.
I actually believed in myself,my music.

(08:38):
I used to lie down I didn'treally sing because I was a band
but and I used to think, whydon't I live in Amsterdam or in
Rotterdam?
You know everything happensthere.
But eventually I thought,because I just lived where I
lived, that I developed myselfand that nobody really heard me,
that I have a unique sound.

(09:00):
So that's just the comfort.
I pushed myself to where I amnow and I just keep doing that.

Speaker 1 (09:07):
Absolutely.
And how did you get that?
Because what you say you comefrom Harlem.
That's maybe a city, a smallercity than Amsterdam and
Rotterdam, when you might haveto work harder to see people
here and think, hey, we can go alittle further with this.
How did you get that?

Speaker 3 (09:27):
Not even once per se.
I used to be a football player.
My father was a football player.
I thought I should do this too,but in principle I always knew
about it.
This is not going to happen.
But I didn't know that it wouldbe music, because I was a player
.
I didn't sing all of a sudden,I was just watching from my
brother and my camera.
It was safe.

(09:48):
My parents often told me to putsomething on YouTube or
Instagram or something, but Ialways knew about it, that it
was there.
It's not even conscious that.
I thought I wanted to do it now, but I just went to Instagram
and it just took it out and thenI got myself to believe that it

(10:09):
might work.

Speaker 1 (10:10):
I know you from the videos of Instagram.
That's why.

Speaker 3 (10:15):
That was the trigger.
I was like, wait a minute,maybe this is just my call, I
have to do this, and that Ididn't go to the movies to shoot
a video every day.
I just waited.
When I feel like I want to dosomething, I try to get myself
to do it.

Speaker 2 (10:58):
I don't want to go back anymore.
I'm going to fire while I'mbusy.
Trust me, it's broken.
So you tell your mother andyour sister it's over, it's over
, you're stuck in my back.

Speaker 1 (11:12):
I'm going to find a lot more in the house.
You said it wasn't conscious.
Why don't you listen to me?
It's over, it's over.
Your track is over.
You set yourself up quitequickly.
You ended up with arelationship.
You had a partner with a ex.
He was surprised.
Did you really help with thatsong?

(11:34):
With the lyrics?
No, but not really, because itdidn't happen it just happened.

Speaker 3 (11:42):
It's just a situation .
I was just in the beat.
I was like I didn't listen toyou.
I was just in the beat, I hadthe hook and I thought I have to
break it.
But it's not the situation thatreally happened to me.
My ex is not going to be happyBecause she's coming back.
People think what's wrong?

(12:04):
It didn't happen.
We're still cool with eachother.
Our relationship was just overBecause we were in a lot of
trouble and then we just decidedit's clear, but it's just.
It's not a real life situationfor me.
No exactly, maybe for otherpeople as well, and that was
also the thought that otherpeople could relate to that tune

(12:25):
.

Speaker 1 (12:27):
Yes, that's why I'm asking this question.
I think a lot of people havebeen in this sort of situation
and the way you say it in thatpocky, it really depends on you,
you know If you really feelthat you're in it, that you
think oh shit, man, you know.

Speaker 3 (12:44):
No, that's good to hear, because that's what the
purpose of the final step is,because you can just bring it
over, and I also didn't makemyself a part of it.
I can just imagine how it mightbe for people.
Yes, exactly.
So that's why I think you justfeel that.

Speaker 2 (13:13):
I'm sitting alone in the wall.
You're the type that staysshort as fast as my love is in
the wall, but why am I still inthe wall?
You've worked on this EP withmany different producers.

Speaker 1 (13:41):
But you still have your own sound.
How did you do that, so thatyou really work with different
people but really have your ownsound?

Speaker 3 (13:52):
That's a good question, but I think I'm so
selective with the beats I getbecause with who I sit and I
think I've taken 70% of this EPat home and that's why I really
come to my senses, because I fixeverything in the project.
So I think that, yeah, I don'thave a precise explanation for

(14:17):
it, but I just know what I doand what I can do and how I make
my own songs.
So that's why I think I come tomy senses.

Speaker 1 (14:28):
Do you still have any other producers you want to
work with?

Speaker 3 (14:32):
Yes, enough with Spanker.
I've worked with him, but nowI'm a bit more, so I would like
to work with him.
Shafiq Roman Shirek Revers.
I haven't really done that much, so that's enough, but I'm so
far from being a G, so you'reenough.

Speaker 1 (14:56):
Are you really someone who makes all the songs
you want to release, or do youmake a lot of songs and choose
between what you release?

Speaker 3 (15:06):
No, I have a lot of songs that I haven't released
For me.
I do release songs that I'veplayed myself dead, so if I
really listen to that song allday, then I know that it's good.
So I have a lot of songs thatI've released, but I just

(15:26):
selectively release the bestsongs to the people.
I also feel that I've releasedsomething that I feel good about
myself.

Speaker 2 (16:01):
I'm not letting it go today.
I'm just shaking on my way toGod what I'm gonna say.
I saw you all up there.
That's why you're so good today.
You like to mix with Kalani andBeyoncé.
That's why I'm willing to putyou in the wrong way so that you
can get out of there.
Hey, where are you now?
I'm not gonna ask you what todo.

(16:24):
They say tell me what it islike.
That's easy to say.
I know you're lying.

Speaker 1 (16:43):
I've felt that R&B in the Netherlands is not really
valued If you compare it toAmerica or other countries.
Do you have that feeling?
I?

Speaker 3 (16:52):
definitely have that feeling, but I also think that
it's not really.
I correct me if I'm wrong, butyou know that there are not
really people who can reallytranslate that, and I also often
feel that the R&B that is meantis really the old school R&B.
But we are in 2021 now.
That's what I think, and Idon't know what R&B is these

(17:20):
days.
I think it was so far that it'sa bit mixed, because what I
always say is that my back isR&B, but I can just go far away,
so I can also sing on abubbling beat, but my voice is
still R&B.
So I think I just want to bringit to the people.

(17:45):
So that's why I also see thatmy EP, for example, fth, is not
R&B time beat or something.
It's a bit of a trap, right,but if you hear me sing, you
know my voice is R&B, so that'swhy I just want to bring it.

Speaker 1 (18:03):
And what can we expect in the future?

Speaker 3 (18:06):
Like my album, which I'm currently working on and
will be released soon.
I don't know when it will bereleased, but maybe it will be
released soon.
Then it will be released soon.
Don't Leave.
It's not a love session.
I'm more into it, but you canexpect that from me.

Speaker 1 (18:24):
I'm super curious about it.
Anyway, keep going, because Ireally like what you do.
Since the beginning, I'vestarted to check my Instagram
videos, so keep going.
For those who haven't checkedLove is Not Simple yet.
Check it out and take care.
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