November 20, 2025 • 36 mins
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Great. I'll use one.
I'll use one of those. That was really good.
So we do the intro. We're checking so much off our
list. We're checking so many things.
I'm Hannah Drew Lander. And I'm Nora Freed.
And you're listening to. New Yorker of the Week.
Just us. It's just us.
No, Oz will be on later. It's just us.
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Do you think our mics are a little low?
Is it just me? Is it just me?
Oh, oh, Oh, it's yeah, No. Oh, that way.
It's there. We go.
It's there, it's there. It's boom.
I'm. Trying to actually remember
which one like is this? You never know.
We'll play with that you. I feel like it sounds.
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Nice. Yeah, it sounds good.
I almost send a text and thank God I watched on my phone.
Not not like it would have been a mean text, but a text starting
an investigation that didn't need to happen.
My laptop is very old and every time I watch our videos on
YouTube, like I'm like, damn, the audio's quiet and the last
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normally though, I'll watch it from like my phone, like I won't
watch it on my computer. So the couple times I have
watched it from my computer, like to pick a clip or whatever,
I'm like, I don't know, we maybewe should talk to Sean.
And then I was watching the lastone and I was like, wow, I
almost can't hear this video andmy computer's on full volume.
Thank God, I tried almost computer.
My computer's audio is just clearly going out and I can't
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play things volume anymore. But it was a level of like, I
was like, I cannot believe this is a finished product.
Like you can't hear us at all. But it was it was fine.
It was fine. But how embarrassing would it
have been if I sent a text like,hey, just watch this on YouTube.
I see that the audio's like way messed up.
Like that would have just been so humiliating.
And it was just on my end. It's almost as humiliating as
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the personality code situation I'm in.
Nora, you know what happened to me last week.
So I sent Hannah we talked about.
This as the last. With the virus, which no.
No, no. But they know.
We took the personality test, OK.
We took the. Personality test that.
First of all, I want to just clarify, I didn't find this
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personality test. Someone sent it to me.
You take the whole test and thenat the end it says it's $1.00 to
get your results. Obviously you're going to pay
the dollar. So you pay the dollar and then
it signs you up for a subscription.
And if you're if you're me, not only do you pay the dollar, you
then get like 5 calls from your bank.
They already assumed it was fraud and one of the texts they
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sent was like text yes if you made this purchase and I texted
yes. So I thought, I'm, I'm good, I'm
OK. And then I was trying to ride
the subway and I have this thingthat I, I'm too lazy to solve
'cause I know how easy it is to solve where I can't tap my phone
at the subway. I need a manual card.
So I'm like, no problem tapping my card, cards declining.
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I'm trying to get a doctor's appointment that I didn't even
have because I was going for thewrong day.
So it was all a rush for nothing.
It's all a rush for nothing. And I had to crawl into the
turnstile and I'm freaking out and I had to call to get 'cause
they locked my card, 'cause theythought it was a fraud charge.
Yeah. And then so I get a charge
yesterday, $30.00 from Personality Co and I'm like
shit, I have so many people who I've.
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But I want to say that's on thembecause I I cancelled the same
day. Really.
The same day? Did you get a confirmation?
Yeah, the same day they e-mail they on the thing it said like
you're paying one nine one 95185and then starting on November
like 16th or 14th or whatever itwas, you're going to be charged
this month per month and then e-mail here to cancel or you can
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cancel through your account. I did both.
I cancelled through my account and literally emailed Nora.
I downloaded the results to my phone and cancelled it like same
day. Yeah.
So I'm just saying it's. On them if.
A lot of people didn't cancel, they told you.
I felt like I had an STD. I was literally texting everyone
in my phone book. I was like, sorry I sent you
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that personality quiz the other day.
Here's the service e-mail. Here's.
The here's the support e-mail ifyou need it to cancel cuz
they're about to charge you $30.And 30 is a really large amount
for a personality company, like maybe $7.00, maybe $10.
People might even let it go. What is the 30?
What do you get? I don't know but I have access
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to it for the month. The 30.
Yeah, I have the $30 access. Oh, we should check it out.
They. Were like you were supposed to
e-mail us much further before and I was like I did, but it was
a no reply e-mail. I don't know, it's just.
Crazy. Have you done your Myers Briggs
yet? No, I haven't.
I haven't been. Doing that last night.
That would have been good, and then you'd have your big three.
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So I heard someone else call it the big three having your
horoscope. What is horoscope Myersburg and
what is it? The Enneagram?
Enneagram having those, you can tell the whole story.
The story of me, you know, I really pushed the Enneagram on
my date last week. Maybe that's why things didn't
work out. Maybe, he thought.
You were a scammer. Like he saw that it cost money
and a subscription. He was like, I'm just, I can't
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get in with the wrong girl. I was like so I.
Got a four, do you? Know what number you are because
we could really learn a lot about each other if I knew what
your number was. And he was like, no, I've never
done that. And I was like, well, do you
want to do it right now? And he right.
Now didn't it took like 30 something minutes?
Yeah. But we had time for for the
movie. OK, so you're gonna watch him
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take the person out? He's.
Gonna ask him all the questions and he was like I'll take it at
home. You were gonna ask him?
Yeah, I mean, if he knew it's a fun conversation starter.
Now that I know mine, I've been asking other people and it's fun
when they know there. Yeah.
And you can talk about it. Yeah, I think it's an
interesting. It's interesting.
And it's one I've never done. Like I've obviously Zodiac sign.
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You learn that like in high school and it's like in college,
you get really into it for a period of time.
Yeah, it's like. That's most people's path, Yeah.
Myers Briggs is also has a moment.
Did you ever have to take a testthat suggested like career for
you? Yes.
Like in high school, Yes. Do you remember where you got I?
Think I was like a police officer or something.
Really like something really like, Oh my God.
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A police is. Like I remember getting.
What were you answering? Oh.
God, it said something about running for like doing
government work like a like a police officer or a firefighter
or like do doing something for the community.
OK, Well, that is spot on. And it police officer.
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Misdirect that they don't understand police.
Officer identified by this by this quiz, which is like the
saviors, but like we know the cops are not the saviors,
they're the issue so. Even got so crazy if you were a
firefighter, Yeah. So I, I think that's what I got,
but I don't know I I should takeit again.
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I don't. I don't like that they had us do
that in high school because I remember well, one, I thought it
was a little messed up. I'll never forget it.
And neither were my mom because I went home and told her and she
was like, well, we all thought it was funny, but she was like
shocked. My options were a clown, a
puppeteer, or a bartender. Wow.
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That's what was suggested for meand hey, I I've actually been
all those things. So it was on track and.
You've done puppy. Yeah, what?
That I just helped with this puppet sketch show that was
reoccurring every year. Do you use one of the puppets?
Wow, so I love how to do it. No, it's I'd really.
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Like you to do that? It wasn't, and it wasn't like
this. Like you have the little wooden
sticks. Oh my God, it's very.
Hard. And you need to be like the
puppet, you know what I mean? Dude, you've watched Sound of
Music, right? And I'm not gonna.
I just wanna get that out there because this, this exact
reaction happened from my mom the last time I was home.
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So she she. Made me and Wolf sit on the
couch with her and watch it and then she spent the 1st 15.
She have watched it, no. She spent the 1st 15 minutes
saying like, I don't think this is how I remember it, which is
interesting. And then we all fell asleep like
we all fell asleep for the movie.
You would not be falling asleep with me on the couch.
I feel like I would it's like ina like whenever people used to
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get have to everyone was forcingme in like college and high
school to watch Star Wars and I always.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no. But Sound of Music is so much
different than Star Wars. I'll think about it.
It's just really not puppeteering.
It's just not on my radar. It's it's just not always
amazing. Always on my radar.
Really, I I've been. Watching that movie on repeat
since I was a child. It literally immediately says
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Sound of Music, and my mom kept being like, I don't know, this
is the one I was thinking about.Which means she probably wasn't
thinking about Sound of Music when she was describing the
movie to us. But Wolf and I didn't know
because we'd never seen it. I have.
I know every single song, all the words.
Amazing. You do both the male parts and
the female parts and all the little kids.
Oh, that's great. Yeah.
So you need. That skill to act really good
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skills. If you had like an acting
resume, that would be on like your special skills.
Sound of Music can do a solo performance, can do, can be the
sub in for anyone. And literally at any time.
A Nazi. There's a Nazi.
There's a whole Nazi. I know, I know about the plot
and I know of course some of thesongs, but I just, it's, it's,
it's just there's a couple movies I don't think I'm going
to see in this lifetime, you know?
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So life, yeah. Like when am I going to sit down
and watch Sound of Music? I'm going to have Sound of Music
on playing. So maybe over time I'll
eventually see the whole movie. Yeah, it's just so good.
I believe that it's good. It's it's really, it's about.
Women Empowerment. It's also that I never watch
movies at my house. In World War 2.
I never watch movies at my house.
I know I go to the theater to see a movie, but I feel like
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when I'm home, I'm a big TV girlor I listen to my podcasts, so I
feel like I just, it's really hard to get me to watch a movie
that I didn't see in theater. Yeah, 'cause I don't like to
watch movies at my house. Hard movie to see in theaters by
the way. Frankenstein you?
Saw it, Yes. What'd you think?
Really long, like like 3 hours. It's getting really good
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reviews. It's it's a long one all.
Right, we got that. What'd you think of what?
Was the context, the content. I mean, I love Jacob, Lordy,
Lordy, Lordy. He's my dream.
So Frankenstein was pretty hot, honestly.
He. Was kind of being really funny
in his press store. Really.
What was? Yeah, he just had all these,
like, little sound bites. And I was like, what did he say?
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He's normal. He was saying how we need to
like, bring back shame. He's like, no one feels shame.
And that's why we all act like this.
We need to bring back shame. And I was like, that's kind of
funny because he could, he's, he's a young actor.
He could choose to always try tobe correct and not get in
trouble. But I like him being like, I see
what's happening and it's not good.
I love him. He's really hot.
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I I just watched an interview with of him with on some
podcasts I'd never heard of before.
What was earlier, I don't remember what it was called.
OK, it was like something I'm not happy or something.
OK. And he was on it.
And the guy interviewing him, I was like, kind of.
I was like, you didn't even ask.Like, is he dating someone?
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What are his hopes and dreams? What'd they ask?
They were just for like, talkingabout David Lynch the whole time
and it's just like so annoying and like cinema.
And it's like, you could turn meon to your podcast if I see that
you're getting down to the nittygritty with them.
Yeah, get the juicy details. Yeah, I love I but I was
watching Jacob. Well, he's.
Dating that girl Was he dating Olivia Jade?
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Who's Olivia? Jade, hold on.
Let's see. That's really upsetting.
Is Jacob O Lordy still dating Olivia Jade?
Olivia Jade. They're not dating.
Who is he dating? They broke up in September 2025.
Who? Is he dating?
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Who is Jacob the Lordy? This is Olivia Jane.
Wow. Wow.
She looks good here. He looks really good here.
Wow. He's the most beautiful person
in the world. He's really hot, like he's.
And the way he carries himself is so hot.
He's like, he's just like, he doesn't.
Need to worry like. He never needs to worry about
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anything in his life because he looks like this.
And I like that he's being, like, funny in these interviews.
Yeah. Like, OK, we've got a person in
there. Like, are you kidding me?
It's done deal. And now who's that girl?
Is that Olivia Jade? I don't know it's.
Olivia jade blonde. Blonde Olivia Jade.
All right, let's see who is Jacob Lordy dating now?
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These are the. These are the questions we need
answered. Oh, he's on and off with Olivia
Jade so. What does that even mean?
Oh, and it's been since 20210 and it's saying they're still
going strong at this time. Oh, they were just OK.
Sorry, sorry, sorry. They were off in September 23.
They're back now. Who is Olivia Jade?
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What does she do? Who is Olivia Jade?
Olivia Jade is a social media personality.
OK, so same as us, Vlogger and daughter.
Oh Oh my God. She's Lori Loughlin's daughter
from Full House. The woman who got arrested.
This is the girl that she got into college.
That's who he's dating. And she's a fashion designer.
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What a. Why is he dating you?
Know you're not a good fashion designer?
Where? That's your last credit, You
know what I mean? That is what a loser.
Why is he doing that? He could have anyone and he's
dating Olivia Jade. She might have something special
and X Factor. Wow, now I see it with them next
to each other, her and Lori. Wow, she kind of looks like
Raquel from. Yeah, she does.
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Vanderpump. Oh wow.
She's. Definitely had work done.
Look at her hair. Different, totally different
face shape. Whoa, that's crazy.
Don't show Jacob Jacob this. Photo Yeah, Jacob's not going to
like that. Oh my God, they look like
sisters. Lori's aging perfectly.
Well, she's she pays for it. She's looking good.
Did she actually end up getting arrested?
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Yeah, she went to prison. Really.
Yeah, and then it was revealed that it was kind of her ex
husband's whole scheme that thisman she was with at the time and
that she just like, didn't want any more attention on the
family. So just like took the bad, like
just took the, she just, like, took the blame for it 'cause he
did it all in her name. And then like, went to prison.
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It's like she literally went to prison for her family for
something some like shitty guy did.
Wow, like that's insane. Every woman does that, right?
It's crazy. Well, I was thinking the other
day about how not the other day,probably when it happened, when
that whole scandal happened, like everyone was only talking
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about the moms. It's like all these kids have
two parents and all the dads in these families are also wealthy
established men. So like I don't know why their
daughter getting into college bysome scandal is like the moms
must have done it and only the women went to prison.
That's weird. I know I don't like that.
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I don't like that either. So so we.
Can reopen that case. That's.
That's a case that we pop culture.
From years ago. That's that's a case that I'm
ready to crack open, not a supercurrent.
Case. That's crazy that he's just with
her and not with someone else. I don't know it just.
Who do you see him with? I don't know, like just someone
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really magical and she's not magical like maybe Zendaya, you
just. Matter.
No, thank you. Just matter today.
Well, Zendaya's, like, in love with Tom Holland.
They're like gonna get married. OK, All right.
Well, I don't know. I guess Sidney Sweeney's out.
Everyone hates her now. And.
She's with Scooter Braun. Is didn't he rape everyone or
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something? No, I think he's just like a
really evil money grabbing agent.
OK, I believe. OK, if I'm wrong tell me
something. OK, well, they're a perfect
match then. She's a Republican.
That's why everyone was like this is great like literally 2
villains ending up together. Yeah, it's like, fine, Yeah.
I'm trying to think who else he could be with.
I don't know. I mean, you can do with Olivia
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Rodrigo. Good one.
She's like a young hot. That's a cool girl.
Like, no offense to Olivia J, we've never met.
Yeah, but Olivia Rodrigo is like, cool.
I feel like Jacob Alordi would date like Paige Dasaurus
Dasauravo, no? No, she's.
So much. Younger than her, right?
Huh. No, I think they're both the
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same age. We're going to get back on.
Let's see, this is probably going to be a.
Jacob Alordi's age? He's 28.
What? Paige to Sorbo age.
She's our age. She's our.
She's she's 33. Yeah, she's my age.
So I feel like she can't be withhim.
Interesting. Because they're also at really
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different stages in their lives too.
What do you mean I? Don't know.
She's at her peak. Yeah, but she's like a Bravo
girl. I don't feel like I want him to
be with another like movie star or musician like I had no
offense to the Bravo liberties. Like you mean literally so much
to me. I'm just saying like, see the.
Meredith DJ at Bravo Con Yes, What I do have to say about
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Bravo Con is that I went in likethe 60s with Bravo Con.
It was like the first Bravo Con in New York City.
They're like content crazy. Now, now it's like losers when
you could do whatever you wantedat the Javits Center.
When I went, I went backstage five times.
I met every single, every singleBravo person I wanted to meet.
I met I I like literally got up next to Erica Girardi and was
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just like. Hey, and now they're like
walking around with their whole teams making lots of yeah.
You can't even like, talk. Very far away from you.
I went backstage and one of the security people, he was like,
what are you doing back here? And I was like, I'm part of the
crew, what are you talking about?
I was like literally in a blackout with my friend and he
was like, you don't have your badge?
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And I was like, what? I don't.
You know me, you know how I get with.
My badge, I'm sorry, I'm sorry and let me through and then I
just went backstage. I met that was all the.
Security they had I met. Heather Gay I met.
Who else did I meet? Portia like I met like I just
and then I was just backstage there like just who do you work
with? And I was like, we just do press
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and we were like taking no. Follow-ups on that?
No. Follow up ever and then we just.
Need press for our magazine? Eventually it kind of like
people were like, what are they doing here?
And then eventually it's like ina blackout waving.
But like when we went back and then that's when I met Lisa
Barlow and John and John and John.
What? Was it like meeting Lisa and
John? It was good.
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Are they like exactly? What they're like on TV.
Yeah, we were like, because at the time her and Meredith were
mad at each other. We were like, we totally take
your side. You, you when you go to Bravo
Con, you completely change your reality and the way that you're
even speaking, you're like, you have to be in the bit.
So everything you do, you're like, you know, it's ridiculous,
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but at the same time you're likeliving in the bit.
It's kind of you can be. Like you can be like laughing at
them, you have to be like talking to them about what's
going. On.
Yeah, that's very reality, Yeah.Like you, yeah.
I don't really know how else to describe it, 'cause you're
walking around in every 5 minutes, not even 5 minutes,
like every 20 seconds, there's just screaming happening because
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one of them is walking around. Like I met James Kennedy, like I
met Brooks Marks. And that's 'cause people were
just. I'm kind of going like every
other name I know, other name I don't know.
Brooks Marks is Meredith's son, OK, who was low on the totem
pole when I met him, so he was ready to take a picture with me.
I would. Say he's still pretty low on the
totem pole. He's not having success on this
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new show. Really.
Yeah, I feel like he really should have just stayed being
kind of like, funny on their show.
I don't think they should have tried to make him his own
reality star. People are really liking Kim
Zolciak's daughter on I Don't Know.
Who Kim is. From Atlanta.
I've never watched Atlanta. I'm not like, I love the Bravo I
(20:30):
have consumed. Yeah, but you know me like, I
don't really know all of it. I'm not in on all.
The I would love to watch you watching Atlanta.
Well, you still have me working through Beverly Hills, OK, I'm
on like Season 4. At Beverly Hills, Yeah.
OK, OK. Taking my time, yeah, I still
have to catch up on you would. Love Kim.
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I actually tried to watch Potomac and I like with my older
mate Liam, but then without him watching it with me, I was kind
of like not sad. I just was like, I'm not dying
to watch this. Yeah, it was like fun though as
a duo and then I so. Fun to watch with a friend.
Yeah, I watch a lot of it alone.Like when I see other people
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posting their like them laughingwhile watching real TV, like
that's fun to me because it's like, we're now we're watching
it ticket. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And it's like, it sucks. I I watch it by myself as well
and it's like then I'm fine. I'm I'm mostly on my phone.
Yeah, because you zone out. It's like, but then someone
posts a scene laughing. Like that scene was hilarious.
That was really. I'm getting it now.
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Yeah, I, I, I want to watch other people watching
housewives. It's like.
Like, kind of like how gamers watch other people game.
Yeah, You know, I. Think there's a real business
there? You should start a Twitch.
Twitch. Yeah.
(21:53):
And it's like you live streamed watching like every episode of
Housewives. Right.
I really feel like people would watch that and then people
wouldn't be watching alone, they'd be watching with you.
Yeah, I guess. I mean, that's literally what
gamers do. They're like I'm logging on to
game, log on with me and they make whole careers off people
(22:13):
wanting to watch them game. Wow, we should just try it.
It's like a panda Cam. Yeah, you should just try it.
OK, just set up the. Camera start your twitch account
and get it moving. You could be a millionaire real.
Housewives of Salt Lake City is crushing me right now.
I'm behind. I would watch that with you.
(22:33):
I have to go home tonight. I understand.
I'm on day four in a row. Yeah.
Where I leave my house in the morning and I'm not home till
9:00 PM. Wow.
So it's NYC. It's time to get home.
Yeah, it's the Salt Lake City girls are really doing a great
job. They're amazing, and that is a
lesson that all the producers can look to when they talk about
(22:57):
what's going on with New York. They're apparently supposed to
announce the new cast at at Bravo Con.
I heard Dorinda and and Luann are back on.
You'd be crazy to not have them back on.
But wait, have you been watchingSonja at being interviewed?
No. She's a little like she's always
been Sonja. Yeah.
But like, she seems really off her rocker.
Really. Like, I don't know if she's,
(23:18):
like, trying to go viral, you know what I mean?
Yeah, yeah, yeah. She's seeing like, like all the
girls are being themselves and they're being like, a little
funny, but, you know, trying to be put together.
I don't know if she's like. Is this set Bravo Con.
Yeah, what is she doing? I've just been watching all like
the they're they're like, what'syour most iconic line?
What's whatever. And like everyone's just like
(23:38):
saying the line. And she was like screaming her
line. And then they were asking her a
question and she was like, duh. And everyone was like, okay, but
that wasn't even the answer. That wasn't an answer to the
question they asked her. She's just like, it's amazing.
I don't know. But I guess reality TV wise, she
(23:59):
hasn't been out a lot. So maybe she's just when someone
hasn't been out in the public and now they're out again.
Yeah, I would say that's Sonia. My friend saw her a couple years
ago like with two interns by herside kind of like holding her up
walking her down like I think itwas like W something and she she
(24:20):
was on the Upper West Side and she was like stumbling around.
Great dream internship. I always said they should make
ATV show specifically about her interns.
Yeah, they should. They should have like, have you?
Do you remember the episode where she was saying she needs
to teach her interns about the art of drawing her bath for her?
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It's amazing. It's like I I would have been
turned for her 100. Percent.
Oh my God I would have killed tointern for her at that house.
I think I would have been reallylike anxious probably the whole
time. She doesn't seem like super
forgiving her chill but. Yeah.
Yeah, but still dream internship.
Wow. Actually, if I could, who could
you? If you could pick one housewife
that you think it would change your life to work for them, who
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would you work for? It's an amazing question,
Hannah. Thank.
You because I'm trying to think like obviously it'd be fun.
There's people who would be funniest to intern for, but who
would who could help me change my life.
I'm gonna change your life. I'm gonna change it.
I'm gonna change your life. I'm gonna change it.
I'm kind of thinking Bethany Frankel, really.
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I feel like if she sees potential in you, she'll take
you to the top. Wow.
Like, and I feel like she is full of lessons.
OK, OK, that's that's the. She would drive me fucking.
Crazy. I think I'd be OK with her they.
All would drive me really nuts. Dorinda seems normal since now
that I've met her and in some capacities had a day of working
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with her and her team. Yeah, pretty down to earth and
normal. Yeah, I'd maybe mine would be
Dorinda then I think actually. Yeah, and apparently Dorinda,
her manager and assistant, she was saying like, she's been with
Dorinda since day one. She said Dorinda has all the
same people she started with. Like, yeah, she likes who you're
with her. That's pretty nice, yeah.
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OK, mine's Dorinda I. Think I think mine's Bethany.
Yeah. It sounds crazy.
No, but you're you're. Gonna get further than me.
I feel like Bethany, if I tell her like, this is what I'm gonna
do, She's gonna be like, and this is this is how you're gonna
get it. But you need to listen to me and
I like OK. OK.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I also feel like I I think
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working for her though would be terrible, Like being the one
booking her flights, helping hermake content, going through her
emails. Like that would suck.
Something going wrong? That would be really scary and
I'd have to be like you. You need to let this go because
I can't handle you freaking out on me.
That's what I would say to her. That's what you would say.
Before you get upset, I need youto let this go.
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I guess mine would be Dorinda. I don't know.
I couldn't handle Bethany, her explaining things to me.
I don't. Think I could handle Luann?
No, like I just feel like I needsomeone a little bit like, no,
we saw. That we saw a dark side.
Of course, I could not work for Kelly Ben Simone either.
Love her, but no love. Her, but no.
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It's always so of. Course not saying how.
Oh my God. That's the worst of the most.
Creepy stuff. Yeah, he's posting.
Yeah. She really hates Sauron.
I love it. She really does.
She really her and what's her name?
Debra Messing. You're Debra Messing familiar?
She posted like 40 slides after he won like freaking out.
Yeah, like I love watching people freak out.
(27:35):
They're. So ridiculous.
They're so ridiculous. I love it, I think.
Someone posted something that was like can someone when he won
someone was like can we get a live Cam on like it was like Amy
Schumer, Debra Messing like a less like can we just.
You look funny, Amy Schumer. What the?
Fuck that was weird. It was really weird cuz she
always kind of seemed like our girl, you know what I mean?
(27:59):
Sucks, yeah, like she sucks, yeah, but rhymes with Cuomo.
Rhymes with Duomo like like. What is wrong with you?
She took a plague. Just say like go Cuomo like I
thought the joke was weird. She's posting about how she's
she's on Ozempic and she took down all her old Instagram
photos, sees only pictures of what she looks like.
(28:20):
Now it's. Going to say something really
mean but I won't. Seems to not be working in some
areas. OK, so I'll say.
Oh, that was the mean thing. Yeah.
I thought you were saying I was going to say something mean, but
it's not working. So I was like, it's not working.
Like to say it, but then that was what that was it I mean.
I'm sorry, it's really mean, I just said.
That I'm trying to remember why she's on it.
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I mean, everybody's on it. No, she she made this post that
came across. No, people only teach you.
That they're back. It's for her, I'm on it and no
bat Endometriosis. No, no, no, no, that's that's
all bullshit. You're on it.
If you weren't skinny and you want to be skinny, you take.
You take it you. Take it.
That's the. There's no other reason.
(29:03):
And honestly, it would have beencool if she said that it.
Literally it. Would have been another.
It would have been like, OK, we're not forgiving you for the
Cuomo thing, but all right, at least she's still real.
I'm sorry, I shouldn't have saidthe I hope we don't get
cancelled from what I just said.I don't think we will.
I feel like with. Our 40 listeners.
Yeah, I feel like our team. Our team really stands by our.
(29:24):
Close knit team. It is funny.
Like if you do anything online, I'm like, I'm like, yeah, that's
my girl. Like that's her, you know, You
like I'm just like I. Thought you were about Amy.
I was like. OK, it's really different from
what? Amy.
Amy sucks. Amy sucks.
But remember we talked about that because I was like, I might
have be cancelled at some point.But you know, I don't know.
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And I feel like there's so many people that other people cancel
and I always think of them as like, I'm fine with them.
You know how I feel? I have my list of people that
have been cancelled that I'm like, they're not cancelled in
my book. Ellen DeGeneres has not
cancelled in my book. Me mine either actually.
She has not cancelled in my bookand I will.
I will never forgive all of you.Maybe not our listeners, but
(30:09):
people who did it because so many celebrities have done
triple what Ellen has done and we've all let it go and for
godly knows what reason. Louis CK.
She was like. Get rid of her.
Comedy Festival. Literally also like we found out
Jimmy Fallon was like drunk and screaming at everyone on set.
So it's like, OK, the same thingwe accuse Elena of and he just
(30:31):
had to apologize on a Zoom call to everyone and they let it go.
And it's like, I don't. And he doesn't even give away
like money the way she like, youknow what I mean?
She was doing good. I fell, I fell.
If I'm wrong and missing a pieceof the pie, let me know, but I
don't think I am. I think we.
I don't really like Jimmy Fallon.
(30:52):
He's like a he's a cop out. You know he sucks.
He's going to do whatever it takes to stay famous and that's
not that's not what I'm looking for in my late night host.
Yeah, you know what I mean? That's he's so yeah.
I don't, I don't know. He kind of sucks but.
I have met him a couple of timesand he's really nice.
Really. He's.
Nice as commentary from someone on the outside.
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What? Are you gonna do?
What are you gonna do? Is friends with him.
My good. Friend Jimmy.
My good friend Jimmy deserves tostay.
Keep Jimmy. Keep Jimmy.
What? Isn't there 3 jimmies?
Kimmel. Fallon.
Is there another one? Carter.
Just kidding. Fuck Mary Kell, Jimmy Carter,
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Jimmy Fallon, Jimmy Kimmel. I'm going to marry Jimmy Kimmel,
I'm going to fuck Jimmy Kell Fallon, and I'm going to kill
Jimmy. Carter, you want to fuck Fallon?
I mean, who's? Jimmy Carter, tell me that.
I'll answer political Jimmy Carter.
Good guy, huh? Good guy.
He was a president of ours. He was the 39th president I
(31:59):
think he had. He was in a wheelchair.
What was he diagnosed with? Polio.
No, no, no, no. That wasn't it.
That's FDR. No.
I after receiving his diagnosis of metastatic Melanoma, the
(32:21):
deadliest and most aggressive form of skin cancer.
Jimmy Carter. Yes, I don't.
Know who this is? I'm learning about him right
now. OK, OK, All right.
Jimmy Carter's one of He used tobe a president and he's.
Passed away, he's. He died.
Oh my God. Is he a good guy?
I mean he was a Democrat so likehowever.
Well, because I'm deciding. I'm deciding if I want to kill
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him or Fallon. He's just not hot in my opinion.
I see. I like I will have sex with him.
OK, fine. I will marry Kimmel.
I will. Fuck Carter.
FDR had polio. OK, Yeah.
Jimmy Carter never had polio. I know, but he had polio.
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That's one thing I know because I got in trouble on TikTok for
talking about it. Oh, interesting.
OK, yeah, Jimmy Carter, yeah, I don't Well, he actually died
pretty recently, December 29th, 2024.
That. News did not get to me.
Yeah. Were people upset?
(33:22):
Was he? Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
Oh. No, no, yeah.
I mean he, I think he generally.Wait, is he?
The one who was a farmer. I don't.
I don't know that much about Jimmy Carter.
I'm going to be honest. I really don't know.
He was Jimmy Carter, the farmer.He One thing that I will say is.
(33:47):
Yes, he was the peanut farmer. He.
Was the peanut farmer. Loved him, he was a really good
guy. Yeah, wait, did people really
like? Farming room.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, it's actually.
I've heard that people really like.
Yeah, he was like a great guy coming back to yeah, I'm having
sex with him. And he was really pro LGBTQ
issues because I remember he didsomething and he was campaigned.
(34:10):
Against peanut farmer he. Campaigned against Proposition 6
in California. Jimmy Carter.
OK, Yeah. OK, we love Jimmy Carter.
Oops, I just sit in his pregnancy.
Yeah, he was a good guy. We like him maybe, but I'm
killing him. Sorry cuz I don't.
Presidency, maybe? I'll marry him.
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I don't know. It's just complicated.
It's wow. He was a good guy.
Good man, Jimmy. Yep.
I don't really know. I need to learn more about
presidents that aren't in my time besides, like, Lincoln and,
like, you know, I need to, like,go back.
I can't believe I forgot about him because when he died, some
(34:52):
people were posting about him. Then I felt silly.
I didn't know anything about him.
Yeah. And then I was learning about
him, and I was like, oh, wow, that he's good.
Yeah, I remember this photo. Jimmy Carter.
Jimmy Carter. That's crazy.
We had a president named Jimmy, you know what I mean?
Now we. Have Donnie.
Now we have like a like Jimmy islike a your nickname, but he was
(35:15):
our president. Donnie.
Jimmy, Johnny. How much?
Time we have left I. Just want to pee one.
More time before our interview, so I was kind of wondering
where. We're at.
I think we can wrap it up because here's the thing that
suggests best episode. So how much of it worth 35
minutes? And 35 minutes is a good just us
(35:35):
is a good just us. And then what we'll do is we'll
do the intro for the for you know who.
Right now, Yeah. You think we can do it before?
Oh, Then let's cut it and switchover.
OK, Goodbye. Good.
Night, you guys. Love to pee?
Bye, love you. Bye.
Great. I'll use one.
I'll use one of those. That was really good.
So we do the intro. We're checking so much off our
list. We're checking so many things.
I'm Hannah Drew Lander. And I'm Nora Freed.
And you're listening to. New Yorker of the Week.
Just us. It's just us.
No, Oz will be on later. It's just us.
(00:39):
Do you think our mics are a little low?
Is it just me? Is it just me?
Oh, oh, Oh, it's yeah, No. Oh, that way.
It's there. We go.
It's there, it's there. It's boom.
I'm. Trying to actually remember
which one like is this? You never know.
We'll play with that you. I feel like it sounds.
(01:00):
Nice. Yeah, it sounds good.
I almost send a text and thank God I watched on my phone.
Not not like it would have been a mean text, but a text starting
an investigation that didn't need to happen.
My laptop is very old and every time I watch our videos on
YouTube, like I'm like, damn, the audio's quiet and the last
(01:21):
normally though, I'll watch it from like my phone, like I won't
watch it on my computer. So the couple times I have
watched it from my computer, like to pick a clip or whatever,
I'm like, I don't know, we maybewe should talk to Sean.
And then I was watching the lastone and I was like, wow, I
almost can't hear this video andmy computer's on full volume.
Thank God, I tried almost computer.
My computer's audio is just clearly going out and I can't
(01:42):
play things volume anymore. But it was a level of like, I
was like, I cannot believe this is a finished product.
Like you can't hear us at all. But it was it was fine.
It was fine. But how embarrassing would it
have been if I sent a text like,hey, just watch this on YouTube.
I see that the audio's like way messed up.
Like that would have just been so humiliating.
And it was just on my end. It's almost as humiliating as
(02:04):
the personality code situation I'm in.
Nora, you know what happened to me last week.
So I sent Hannah we talked about.
This as the last. With the virus, which no.
No, no. But they know.
We took the personality test, OK.
We took the. Personality test that.
First of all, I want to just clarify, I didn't find this
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personality test. Someone sent it to me.
You take the whole test and thenat the end it says it's $1.00 to
get your results. Obviously you're going to pay
the dollar. So you pay the dollar and then
it signs you up for a subscription.
And if you're if you're me, not only do you pay the dollar, you
then get like 5 calls from your bank.
They already assumed it was fraud and one of the texts they
(02:48):
sent was like text yes if you made this purchase and I texted
yes. So I thought, I'm, I'm good, I'm
OK. And then I was trying to ride
the subway and I have this thingthat I, I'm too lazy to solve
'cause I know how easy it is to solve where I can't tap my phone
at the subway. I need a manual card.
So I'm like, no problem tapping my card, cards declining.
(03:08):
I'm trying to get a doctor's appointment that I didn't even
have because I was going for thewrong day.
So it was all a rush for nothing.
It's all a rush for nothing. And I had to crawl into the
turnstile and I'm freaking out and I had to call to get 'cause
they locked my card, 'cause theythought it was a fraud charge.
Yeah. And then so I get a charge
yesterday, $30.00 from Personality Co and I'm like
shit, I have so many people who I've.
(03:29):
But I want to say that's on thembecause I I cancelled the same
day. Really.
The same day? Did you get a confirmation?
Yeah, the same day they e-mail they on the thing it said like
you're paying one nine one 95185and then starting on November
like 16th or 14th or whatever itwas, you're going to be charged
this month per month and then e-mail here to cancel or you can
(03:53):
cancel through your account. I did both.
I cancelled through my account and literally emailed Nora.
I downloaded the results to my phone and cancelled it like same
day. Yeah.
So I'm just saying it's. On them if.
A lot of people didn't cancel, they told you.
I felt like I had an STD. I was literally texting everyone
in my phone book. I was like, sorry I sent you
(04:13):
that personality quiz the other day.
Here's the service e-mail. Here's.
The here's the support e-mail ifyou need it to cancel cuz
they're about to charge you $30.And 30 is a really large amount
for a personality company, like maybe $7.00, maybe $10.
People might even let it go. What is the 30?
What do you get? I don't know but I have access
(04:34):
to it for the month. The 30.
Yeah, I have the $30 access. Oh, we should check it out.
They. Were like you were supposed to
e-mail us much further before and I was like I did, but it was
a no reply e-mail. I don't know, it's just.
Crazy. Have you done your Myers Briggs
yet? No, I haven't.
I haven't been. Doing that last night.
That would have been good, and then you'd have your big three.
(04:56):
So I heard someone else call it the big three having your
horoscope. What is horoscope Myersburg and
what is it? The Enneagram?
Enneagram having those, you can tell the whole story.
The story of me, you know, I really pushed the Enneagram on
my date last week. Maybe that's why things didn't
work out. Maybe, he thought.
You were a scammer. Like he saw that it cost money
and a subscription. He was like, I'm just, I can't
(05:18):
get in with the wrong girl. I was like so I.
Got a four, do you? Know what number you are because
we could really learn a lot about each other if I knew what
your number was. And he was like, no, I've never
done that. And I was like, well, do you
want to do it right now? And he right.
Now didn't it took like 30 something minutes?
Yeah. But we had time for for the
movie. OK, so you're gonna watch him
(05:40):
take the person out? He's.
Gonna ask him all the questions and he was like I'll take it at
home. You were gonna ask him?
Yeah, I mean, if he knew it's a fun conversation starter.
Now that I know mine, I've been asking other people and it's fun
when they know there. Yeah.
And you can talk about it. Yeah, I think it's an
interesting. It's interesting.
And it's one I've never done. Like I've obviously Zodiac sign.
(06:03):
You learn that like in high school and it's like in college,
you get really into it for a period of time.
Yeah, it's like. That's most people's path, Yeah.
Myers Briggs is also has a moment.
Did you ever have to take a testthat suggested like career for
you? Yes.
Like in high school, Yes. Do you remember where you got I?
Think I was like a police officer or something.
Really like something really like, Oh my God.
(06:25):
A police is. Like I remember getting.
What were you answering? Oh.
God, it said something about running for like doing
government work like a like a police officer or a firefighter
or like do doing something for the community.
OK, Well, that is spot on. And it police officer.
(06:45):
Misdirect that they don't understand police.
Officer identified by this by this quiz, which is like the
saviors, but like we know the cops are not the saviors,
they're the issue so. Even got so crazy if you were a
firefighter, Yeah. So I, I think that's what I got,
but I don't know I I should takeit again.
(07:06):
I don't. I don't like that they had us do
that in high school because I remember well, one, I thought it
was a little messed up. I'll never forget it.
And neither were my mom because I went home and told her and she
was like, well, we all thought it was funny, but she was like
shocked. My options were a clown, a
puppeteer, or a bartender. Wow.
(07:27):
That's what was suggested for meand hey, I I've actually been
all those things. So it was on track and.
You've done puppy. Yeah, what?
That I just helped with this puppet sketch show that was
reoccurring every year. Do you use one of the puppets?
Wow, so I love how to do it. No, it's I'd really.
(07:47):
Like you to do that? It wasn't, and it wasn't like
this. Like you have the little wooden
sticks. Oh my God, it's very.
Hard. And you need to be like the
puppet, you know what I mean? Dude, you've watched Sound of
Music, right? And I'm not gonna.
I just wanna get that out there because this, this exact
reaction happened from my mom the last time I was home.
(08:08):
So she she. Made me and Wolf sit on the
couch with her and watch it and then she spent the 1st 15.
She have watched it, no. She spent the 1st 15 minutes
saying like, I don't think this is how I remember it, which is
interesting. And then we all fell asleep like
we all fell asleep for the movie.
You would not be falling asleep with me on the couch.
I feel like I would it's like ina like whenever people used to
(08:31):
get have to everyone was forcingme in like college and high
school to watch Star Wars and I always.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no. But Sound of Music is so much
different than Star Wars. I'll think about it.
It's just really not puppeteering.
It's just not on my radar. It's it's just not always
amazing. Always on my radar.
Really, I I've been. Watching that movie on repeat
since I was a child. It literally immediately says
(08:52):
Sound of Music, and my mom kept being like, I don't know, this
is the one I was thinking about.Which means she probably wasn't
thinking about Sound of Music when she was describing the
movie to us. But Wolf and I didn't know
because we'd never seen it. I have.
I know every single song, all the words.
Amazing. You do both the male parts and
the female parts and all the little kids.
Oh, that's great. Yeah.
So you need. That skill to act really good
(09:14):
skills. If you had like an acting
resume, that would be on like your special skills.
Sound of Music can do a solo performance, can do, can be the
sub in for anyone. And literally at any time.
A Nazi. There's a Nazi.
There's a whole Nazi. I know, I know about the plot
and I know of course some of thesongs, but I just, it's, it's,
it's just there's a couple movies I don't think I'm going
to see in this lifetime, you know?
(09:35):
So life, yeah. Like when am I going to sit down
and watch Sound of Music? I'm going to have Sound of Music
on playing. So maybe over time I'll
eventually see the whole movie. Yeah, it's just so good.
I believe that it's good. It's it's really, it's about.
Women Empowerment. It's also that I never watch
movies at my house. In World War 2.
I never watch movies at my house.
I know I go to the theater to see a movie, but I feel like
(09:58):
when I'm home, I'm a big TV girlor I listen to my podcasts, so I
feel like I just, it's really hard to get me to watch a movie
that I didn't see in theater. Yeah, 'cause I don't like to
watch movies at my house. Hard movie to see in theaters by
the way. Frankenstein you?
Saw it, Yes. What'd you think?
Really long, like like 3 hours. It's getting really good
(10:21):
reviews. It's it's a long one all.
Right, we got that. What'd you think of what?
Was the context, the content. I mean, I love Jacob, Lordy,
Lordy, Lordy. He's my dream.
So Frankenstein was pretty hot, honestly.
He. Was kind of being really funny
in his press store. Really.
What was? Yeah, he just had all these,
like, little sound bites. And I was like, what did he say?
(10:43):
He's normal. He was saying how we need to
like, bring back shame. He's like, no one feels shame.
And that's why we all act like this.
We need to bring back shame. And I was like, that's kind of
funny because he could, he's, he's a young actor.
He could choose to always try tobe correct and not get in
trouble. But I like him being like, I see
what's happening and it's not good.
I love him. He's really hot.
(11:03):
I I just watched an interview with of him with on some
podcasts I'd never heard of before.
What was earlier, I don't remember what it was called.
OK, it was like something I'm not happy or something.
OK. And he was on it.
And the guy interviewing him, I was like, kind of.
I was like, you didn't even ask.Like, is he dating someone?
(11:26):
What are his hopes and dreams? What'd they ask?
They were just for like, talkingabout David Lynch the whole time
and it's just like so annoying and like cinema.
And it's like, you could turn meon to your podcast if I see that
you're getting down to the nittygritty with them.
Yeah, get the juicy details. Yeah, I love I but I was
watching Jacob. Well, he's.
Dating that girl Was he dating Olivia Jade?
(11:48):
Who's Olivia? Jade, hold on.
Let's see. That's really upsetting.
Is Jacob O Lordy still dating Olivia Jade?
Olivia Jade. They're not dating.
Who is he dating? They broke up in September 2025.
Who? Is he dating?
(12:10):
Who is Jacob the Lordy? This is Olivia Jane.
Wow. Wow.
She looks good here. He looks really good here.
Wow. He's the most beautiful person
in the world. He's really hot, like he's.
And the way he carries himself is so hot.
He's like, he's just like, he doesn't.
Need to worry like. He never needs to worry about
(12:31):
anything in his life because he looks like this.
And I like that he's being, like, funny in these interviews.
Yeah. Like, OK, we've got a person in
there. Like, are you kidding me?
It's done deal. And now who's that girl?
Is that Olivia Jade? I don't know it's.
Olivia jade blonde. Blonde Olivia Jade.
All right, let's see who is Jacob Lordy dating now?
(12:52):
These are the. These are the questions we need
answered. Oh, he's on and off with Olivia
Jade so. What does that even mean?
Oh, and it's been since 20210 and it's saying they're still
going strong at this time. Oh, they were just OK.
Sorry, sorry, sorry. They were off in September 23.
They're back now. Who is Olivia Jade?
(13:13):
What does she do? Who is Olivia Jade?
Olivia Jade is a social media personality.
OK, so same as us, Vlogger and daughter.
Oh Oh my God. She's Lori Loughlin's daughter
from Full House. The woman who got arrested.
This is the girl that she got into college.
That's who he's dating. And she's a fashion designer.
(13:36):
What a. Why is he dating you?
Know you're not a good fashion designer?
Where? That's your last credit, You
know what I mean? That is what a loser.
Why is he doing that? He could have anyone and he's
dating Olivia Jade. She might have something special
and X Factor. Wow, now I see it with them next
to each other, her and Lori. Wow, she kind of looks like
Raquel from. Yeah, she does.
(13:58):
Vanderpump. Oh wow.
She's. Definitely had work done.
Look at her hair. Different, totally different
face shape. Whoa, that's crazy.
Don't show Jacob Jacob this. Photo Yeah, Jacob's not going to
like that. Oh my God, they look like
sisters. Lori's aging perfectly.
Well, she's she pays for it. She's looking good.
Did she actually end up getting arrested?
(14:19):
Yeah, she went to prison. Really.
Yeah, and then it was revealed that it was kind of her ex
husband's whole scheme that thisman she was with at the time and
that she just like, didn't want any more attention on the
family. So just like took the bad, like
just took the, she just, like, took the blame for it 'cause he
did it all in her name. And then like, went to prison.
(14:42):
It's like she literally went to prison for her family for
something some like shitty guy did.
Wow, like that's insane. Every woman does that, right?
It's crazy. Well, I was thinking the other
day about how not the other day,probably when it happened, when
that whole scandal happened, like everyone was only talking
(15:02):
about the moms. It's like all these kids have
two parents and all the dads in these families are also wealthy
established men. So like I don't know why their
daughter getting into college bysome scandal is like the moms
must have done it and only the women went to prison.
That's weird. I know I don't like that.
(15:24):
I don't like that either. So so we.
Can reopen that case. That's.
That's a case that we pop culture.
From years ago. That's that's a case that I'm
ready to crack open, not a supercurrent.
Case. That's crazy that he's just with
her and not with someone else. I don't know it just.
Who do you see him with? I don't know, like just someone
(15:44):
really magical and she's not magical like maybe Zendaya, you
just. Matter.
No, thank you. Just matter today.
Well, Zendaya's, like, in love with Tom Holland.
They're like gonna get married. OK, All right.
Well, I don't know. I guess Sidney Sweeney's out.
Everyone hates her now. And.
She's with Scooter Braun. Is didn't he rape everyone or
(16:05):
something? No, I think he's just like a
really evil money grabbing agent.
OK, I believe. OK, if I'm wrong tell me
something. OK, well, they're a perfect
match then. She's a Republican.
That's why everyone was like this is great like literally 2
villains ending up together. Yeah, it's like, fine, Yeah.
I'm trying to think who else he could be with.
I don't know. I mean, you can do with Olivia
(16:28):
Rodrigo. Good one.
She's like a young hot. That's a cool girl.
Like, no offense to Olivia J, we've never met.
Yeah, but Olivia Rodrigo is like, cool.
I feel like Jacob Alordi would date like Paige Dasaurus
Dasauravo, no? No, she's.
So much. Younger than her, right?
Huh. No, I think they're both the
(16:49):
same age. We're going to get back on.
Let's see, this is probably going to be a.
Jacob Alordi's age? He's 28.
What? Paige to Sorbo age.
She's our age. She's our.
She's she's 33. Yeah, she's my age.
So I feel like she can't be withhim.
Interesting. Because they're also at really
(17:10):
different stages in their lives too.
What do you mean I? Don't know.
She's at her peak. Yeah, but she's like a Bravo
girl. I don't feel like I want him to
be with another like movie star or musician like I had no
offense to the Bravo liberties. Like you mean literally so much
to me. I'm just saying like, see the.
Meredith DJ at Bravo Con Yes, What I do have to say about
(17:33):
Bravo Con is that I went in likethe 60s with Bravo Con.
It was like the first Bravo Con in New York City.
They're like content crazy. Now, now it's like losers when
you could do whatever you wantedat the Javits Center.
When I went, I went backstage five times.
I met every single, every singleBravo person I wanted to meet.
I met I I like literally got up next to Erica Girardi and was
(17:58):
just like. Hey, and now they're like
walking around with their whole teams making lots of yeah.
You can't even like, talk. Very far away from you.
I went backstage and one of the security people, he was like,
what are you doing back here? And I was like, I'm part of the
crew, what are you talking about?
I was like literally in a blackout with my friend and he
was like, you don't have your badge?
(18:18):
And I was like, what? I don't.
You know me, you know how I get with.
My badge, I'm sorry, I'm sorry and let me through and then I
just went backstage. I met that was all the.
Security they had I met. Heather Gay I met.
Who else did I meet? Portia like I met like I just
and then I was just backstage there like just who do you work
with? And I was like, we just do press
(18:39):
and we were like taking no. Follow-ups on that?
No. Follow up ever and then we just.
Need press for our magazine? Eventually it kind of like
people were like, what are they doing here?
And then eventually it's like ina blackout waving.
But like when we went back and then that's when I met Lisa
Barlow and John and John and John.
What? Was it like meeting Lisa and
John? It was good.
(19:01):
Are they like exactly? What they're like on TV.
Yeah, we were like, because at the time her and Meredith were
mad at each other. We were like, we totally take
your side. You, you when you go to Bravo
Con, you completely change your reality and the way that you're
even speaking, you're like, you have to be in the bit.
So everything you do, you're like, you know, it's ridiculous,
(19:24):
but at the same time you're likeliving in the bit.
It's kind of you can be. Like you can be like laughing at
them, you have to be like talking to them about what's
going. On.
Yeah, that's very reality, Yeah.Like you, yeah.
I don't really know how else to describe it, 'cause you're
walking around in every 5 minutes, not even 5 minutes,
like every 20 seconds, there's just screaming happening because
(19:46):
one of them is walking around. Like I met James Kennedy, like I
met Brooks Marks. And that's 'cause people were
just. I'm kind of going like every
other name I know, other name I don't know.
Brooks Marks is Meredith's son, OK, who was low on the totem
pole when I met him, so he was ready to take a picture with me.
I would. Say he's still pretty low on the
totem pole. He's not having success on this
(20:08):
new show. Really.
Yeah, I feel like he really should have just stayed being
kind of like, funny on their show.
I don't think they should have tried to make him his own
reality star. People are really liking Kim
Zolciak's daughter on I Don't Know.
Who Kim is. From Atlanta.
I've never watched Atlanta. I'm not like, I love the Bravo I
(20:30):
have consumed. Yeah, but you know me like, I
don't really know all of it. I'm not in on all.
The I would love to watch you watching Atlanta.
Well, you still have me working through Beverly Hills, OK, I'm
on like Season 4. At Beverly Hills, Yeah.
OK, OK. Taking my time, yeah, I still
have to catch up on you would. Love Kim.
(20:51):
I actually tried to watch Potomac and I like with my older
mate Liam, but then without him watching it with me, I was kind
of like not sad. I just was like, I'm not dying
to watch this. Yeah, it was like fun though as
a duo and then I so. Fun to watch with a friend.
Yeah, I watch a lot of it alone.Like when I see other people
(21:12):
posting their like them laughingwhile watching real TV, like
that's fun to me because it's like, we're now we're watching
it ticket. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And it's like, it sucks. I I watch it by myself as well
and it's like then I'm fine. I'm I'm mostly on my phone.
Yeah, because you zone out. It's like, but then someone
posts a scene laughing. Like that scene was hilarious.
That was really. I'm getting it now.
(21:33):
Yeah, I, I, I want to watch other people watching
housewives. It's like.
Like, kind of like how gamers watch other people game.
Yeah, You know, I. Think there's a real business
there? You should start a Twitch.
Twitch. Yeah.
(21:53):
And it's like you live streamed watching like every episode of
Housewives. Right.
I really feel like people would watch that and then people
wouldn't be watching alone, they'd be watching with you.
Yeah, I guess. I mean, that's literally what
gamers do. They're like I'm logging on to
game, log on with me and they make whole careers off people
(22:13):
wanting to watch them game. Wow, we should just try it.
It's like a panda Cam. Yeah, you should just try it.
OK, just set up the. Camera start your twitch account
and get it moving. You could be a millionaire real.
Housewives of Salt Lake City is crushing me right now.
I'm behind. I would watch that with you.
(22:33):
I have to go home tonight. I understand.
I'm on day four in a row. Yeah.
Where I leave my house in the morning and I'm not home till
9:00 PM. Wow.
So it's NYC. It's time to get home.
Yeah, it's the Salt Lake City girls are really doing a great
job. They're amazing, and that is a
lesson that all the producers can look to when they talk about
(22:57):
what's going on with New York. They're apparently supposed to
announce the new cast at at Bravo Con.
I heard Dorinda and and Luann are back on.
You'd be crazy to not have them back on.
But wait, have you been watchingSonja at being interviewed?
No. She's a little like she's always
been Sonja. Yeah.
But like, she seems really off her rocker.
Really. Like, I don't know if she's,
(23:18):
like, trying to go viral, you know what I mean?
Yeah, yeah, yeah. She's seeing like, like all the
girls are being themselves and they're being like, a little
funny, but, you know, trying to be put together.
I don't know if she's like. Is this set Bravo Con.
Yeah, what is she doing? I've just been watching all like
the they're they're like, what'syour most iconic line?
What's whatever. And like everyone's just like
(23:38):
saying the line. And she was like screaming her
line. And then they were asking her a
question and she was like, duh. And everyone was like, okay, but
that wasn't even the answer. That wasn't an answer to the
question they asked her. She's just like, it's amazing.
I don't know. But I guess reality TV wise, she
(23:59):
hasn't been out a lot. So maybe she's just when someone
hasn't been out in the public and now they're out again.
Yeah, I would say that's Sonia. My friend saw her a couple years
ago like with two interns by herside kind of like holding her up
walking her down like I think itwas like W something and she she
(24:20):
was on the Upper West Side and she was like stumbling around.
Great dream internship. I always said they should make
ATV show specifically about her interns.
Yeah, they should. They should have like, have you?
Do you remember the episode where she was saying she needs
to teach her interns about the art of drawing her bath for her?
(24:41):
It's amazing. It's like I I would have been
turned for her 100. Percent.
Oh my God I would have killed tointern for her at that house.
I think I would have been reallylike anxious probably the whole
time. She doesn't seem like super
forgiving her chill but. Yeah.
Yeah, but still dream internship.
Wow. Actually, if I could, who could
you? If you could pick one housewife
that you think it would change your life to work for them, who
(25:03):
would you work for? It's an amazing question,
Hannah. Thank.
You because I'm trying to think like obviously it'd be fun.
There's people who would be funniest to intern for, but who
would who could help me change my life.
I'm gonna change your life. I'm gonna change it.
I'm gonna change your life. I'm gonna change it.
I'm kind of thinking Bethany Frankel, really.
(25:26):
I feel like if she sees potential in you, she'll take
you to the top. Wow.
Like, and I feel like she is full of lessons.
OK, OK, that's that's the. She would drive me fucking.
Crazy. I think I'd be OK with her they.
All would drive me really nuts. Dorinda seems normal since now
that I've met her and in some capacities had a day of working
(25:48):
with her and her team. Yeah, pretty down to earth and
normal. Yeah, I'd maybe mine would be
Dorinda then I think actually. Yeah, and apparently Dorinda,
her manager and assistant, she was saying like, she's been with
Dorinda since day one. She said Dorinda has all the
same people she started with. Like, yeah, she likes who you're
with her. That's pretty nice, yeah.
(26:09):
OK, mine's Dorinda I. Think I think mine's Bethany.
Yeah. It sounds crazy.
No, but you're you're. Gonna get further than me.
I feel like Bethany, if I tell her like, this is what I'm gonna
do, She's gonna be like, and this is this is how you're gonna
get it. But you need to listen to me and
I like OK. OK.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I also feel like I I think
(26:29):
working for her though would be terrible, Like being the one
booking her flights, helping hermake content, going through her
emails. Like that would suck.
Something going wrong? That would be really scary and
I'd have to be like you. You need to let this go because
I can't handle you freaking out on me.
That's what I would say to her. That's what you would say.
Before you get upset, I need youto let this go.
(26:53):
I guess mine would be Dorinda. I don't know.
I couldn't handle Bethany, her explaining things to me.
I don't. Think I could handle Luann?
No, like I just feel like I needsomeone a little bit like, no,
we saw. That we saw a dark side.
Of course, I could not work for Kelly Ben Simone either.
Love her, but no love. Her, but no.
(27:14):
It's always so of. Course not saying how.
Oh my God. That's the worst of the most.
Creepy stuff. Yeah, he's posting.
Yeah. She really hates Sauron.
I love it. She really does.
She really her and what's her name?
Debra Messing. You're Debra Messing familiar?
She posted like 40 slides after he won like freaking out.
Yeah, like I love watching people freak out.
(27:35):
They're. So ridiculous.
They're so ridiculous. I love it, I think.
Someone posted something that was like can someone when he won
someone was like can we get a live Cam on like it was like Amy
Schumer, Debra Messing like a less like can we just.
You look funny, Amy Schumer. What the?
Fuck that was weird. It was really weird cuz she
always kind of seemed like our girl, you know what I mean?
(27:59):
Sucks, yeah, like she sucks, yeah, but rhymes with Cuomo.
Rhymes with Duomo like like. What is wrong with you?
She took a plague. Just say like go Cuomo like I
thought the joke was weird. She's posting about how she's
she's on Ozempic and she took down all her old Instagram
photos, sees only pictures of what she looks like.
(28:20):
Now it's. Going to say something really
mean but I won't. Seems to not be working in some
areas. OK, so I'll say.
Oh, that was the mean thing. Yeah.
I thought you were saying I was going to say something mean, but
it's not working. So I was like, it's not working.
Like to say it, but then that was what that was it I mean.
I'm sorry, it's really mean, I just said.
That I'm trying to remember why she's on it.
(28:42):
I mean, everybody's on it. No, she she made this post that
came across. No, people only teach you.
That they're back. It's for her, I'm on it and no
bat Endometriosis. No, no, no, no, that's that's
all bullshit. You're on it.
If you weren't skinny and you want to be skinny, you take.
You take it you. Take it.
That's the. There's no other reason.
(29:03):
And honestly, it would have beencool if she said that it.
Literally it. Would have been another.
It would have been like, OK, we're not forgiving you for the
Cuomo thing, but all right, at least she's still real.
I'm sorry, I shouldn't have saidthe I hope we don't get
cancelled from what I just said.I don't think we will.
I feel like with. Our 40 listeners.
Yeah, I feel like our team. Our team really stands by our.
(29:24):
Close knit team. It is funny.
Like if you do anything online, I'm like, I'm like, yeah, that's
my girl. Like that's her, you know, You
like I'm just like I. Thought you were about Amy.
I was like. OK, it's really different from
what? Amy.
Amy sucks. Amy sucks.
But remember we talked about that because I was like, I might
have be cancelled at some point.But you know, I don't know.
(29:48):
And I feel like there's so many people that other people cancel
and I always think of them as like, I'm fine with them.
You know how I feel? I have my list of people that
have been cancelled that I'm like, they're not cancelled in
my book. Ellen DeGeneres has not
cancelled in my book. Me mine either actually.
She has not cancelled in my bookand I will.
I will never forgive all of you.Maybe not our listeners, but
(30:09):
people who did it because so many celebrities have done
triple what Ellen has done and we've all let it go and for
godly knows what reason. Louis CK.
She was like. Get rid of her.
Comedy Festival. Literally also like we found out
Jimmy Fallon was like drunk and screaming at everyone on set.
So it's like, OK, the same thingwe accuse Elena of and he just
(30:31):
had to apologize on a Zoom call to everyone and they let it go.
And it's like, I don't. And he doesn't even give away
like money the way she like, youknow what I mean?
She was doing good. I fell, I fell.
If I'm wrong and missing a pieceof the pie, let me know, but I
don't think I am. I think we.
I don't really like Jimmy Fallon.
(30:52):
He's like a he's a cop out. You know he sucks.
He's going to do whatever it takes to stay famous and that's
not that's not what I'm looking for in my late night host.
Yeah, you know what I mean? That's he's so yeah.
I don't, I don't know. He kind of sucks but.
I have met him a couple of timesand he's really nice.
Really. He's.
Nice as commentary from someone on the outside.
(31:13):
What? Are you gonna do?
What are you gonna do? Is friends with him.
My good. Friend Jimmy.
My good friend Jimmy deserves tostay.
Keep Jimmy. Keep Jimmy.
What? Isn't there 3 jimmies?
Kimmel. Fallon.
Is there another one? Carter.
Just kidding. Fuck Mary Kell, Jimmy Carter,
(31:33):
Jimmy Fallon, Jimmy Kimmel. I'm going to marry Jimmy Kimmel,
I'm going to fuck Jimmy Kell Fallon, and I'm going to kill
Jimmy. Carter, you want to fuck Fallon?
I mean, who's? Jimmy Carter, tell me that.
I'll answer political Jimmy Carter.
Good guy, huh? Good guy.
He was a president of ours. He was the 39th president I
(31:59):
think he had. He was in a wheelchair.
What was he diagnosed with? Polio.
No, no, no, no. That wasn't it.
That's FDR. No.
I after receiving his diagnosis of metastatic Melanoma, the
(32:21):
deadliest and most aggressive form of skin cancer.
Jimmy Carter. Yes, I don't.
Know who this is? I'm learning about him right
now. OK, OK, All right.
Jimmy Carter's one of He used tobe a president and he's.
Passed away, he's. He died.
Oh my God. Is he a good guy?
I mean he was a Democrat so likehowever.
Well, because I'm deciding. I'm deciding if I want to kill
(32:42):
him or Fallon. He's just not hot in my opinion.
I see. I like I will have sex with him.
OK, fine. I will marry Kimmel.
I will. Fuck Carter.
FDR had polio. OK, Yeah.
Jimmy Carter never had polio. I know, but he had polio.
(33:02):
That's one thing I know because I got in trouble on TikTok for
talking about it. Oh, interesting.
OK, yeah, Jimmy Carter, yeah, I don't Well, he actually died
pretty recently, December 29th, 2024.
That. News did not get to me.
Yeah. Were people upset?
(33:22):
Was he? Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
Oh. No, no, yeah.
I mean he, I think he generally.Wait, is he?
The one who was a farmer. I don't.
I don't know that much about Jimmy Carter.
I'm going to be honest. I really don't know.
He was Jimmy Carter, the farmer.He One thing that I will say is.
(33:47):
Yes, he was the peanut farmer. He.
Was the peanut farmer. Loved him, he was a really good
guy. Yeah, wait, did people really
like? Farming room.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, it's actually.
I've heard that people really like.
Yeah, he was like a great guy coming back to yeah, I'm having
sex with him. And he was really pro LGBTQ
issues because I remember he didsomething and he was campaigned.
(34:10):
Against peanut farmer he. Campaigned against Proposition 6
in California. Jimmy Carter.
OK, Yeah. OK, we love Jimmy Carter.
Oops, I just sit in his pregnancy.
Yeah, he was a good guy. We like him maybe, but I'm
killing him. Sorry cuz I don't.
Presidency, maybe? I'll marry him.
(34:31):
I don't know. It's just complicated.
It's wow. He was a good guy.
Good man, Jimmy. Yep.
I don't really know. I need to learn more about
presidents that aren't in my time besides, like, Lincoln and,
like, you know, I need to, like,go back.
I can't believe I forgot about him because when he died, some
(34:52):
people were posting about him. Then I felt silly.
I didn't know anything about him.
Yeah. And then I was learning about
him, and I was like, oh, wow, that he's good.
Yeah, I remember this photo. Jimmy Carter.
Jimmy Carter. That's crazy.
We had a president named Jimmy, you know what I mean?
Now we. Have Donnie.
Now we have like a like Jimmy islike a your nickname, but he was
(35:15):
our president. Donnie.
Jimmy, Johnny. How much?
Time we have left I. Just want to pee one.
More time before our interview, so I was kind of wondering
where. We're at.
I think we can wrap it up because here's the thing that
suggests best episode. So how much of it worth 35
minutes? And 35 minutes is a good just us
(35:35):
is a good just us. And then what we'll do is we'll
do the intro for the for you know who.
Right now, Yeah. You think we can do it before?
Oh, Then let's cut it and switchover.
OK, Goodbye. Good.
Night, you guys. Love to pee?
Bye, love you. Bye.
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