February 10, 2025 • 37 mins
What if success isn’t just about hard work but five key steps you may miss? In this episode, Kevin Palmieri and Alan Lazaros break down the Five S’s of Success: Self, Story, State, Strategy, and System. They share how mindset, habits, and consistency shape your results and their own self—doubt and growth experiences. These principles will keep you on track whether you’re aiming for fitness, career, or personal goals.
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Show notes:
(3:04) Understanding Self: How identity shapes success
(6:10) The power of Story: Changing your mindset
(7:34) Managing your State: Energy, emotions, and focus
(8:01) Creating a Winning Strategy for your goals
(9:57) Building a consistent System to sustain progress
(16:21) What happens when one of the five S’s falls apart
(19:29) Meet lik
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Kevin Palmieri (00:00):
Having any outline is a really good place
to start, even if you're notpracticing it perfectly.
It doesn't exist anyway.
It's just a really good placeto start.
Yeah, would you rather walkthrough a dark cave with a rope,
like you get to hang on to therope, or would you just want to
freestyle it?
I'm willing to bet you'll bemore successful when you hang on
(00:21):
to the rope.
Alan Lazaros (00:22):
Everyone has these dreams, whether it be a dream
car or a dream body or a dreamhome.
One client horsey farm, oneclient mansion on the beach,
villa in Spain, you name it.
Dreams are not easy to achieve.
They're actually alarminglydifficult to achieve.
And while it does sound reallycool to say everyone can achieve
(00:43):
their goals and dreams if theyset their mind to it,
statistically that's wildlyfucking untrue.
Kevin Palmieri (00:48):
Welcome to Next Level University.
I'm your host, kevin Palmieri,and.
Alan Lazaros (00:53):
I'm your co-host, Alan Lazarus.
Kevin Palmieri (00:55):
At NLU, we believe in a heart-driven but no
BS approach to holisticself-improvement for dream
chasers.
Alan Lazaros (01:02):
Our goal with every episode is to help you
level up your life love healthand wealth.
Kevin Palmieri (01:08):
We bring you a new episode every single day, on
topics like confidence,self-belief, self-worth,
self-awareness, relationships,boundaries, consistency, habits
and defining your own uniqueversion of success.
Alan Lazaros (01:24):
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anywhere, completely free.
Welcome to.
Kevin Palmieri (01:32):
Next Level University, next Level Nation.
Welcome back to another episodeof Next Level University where
we help you level up your life,your love, your health and your
wealth.
I am still wearing the smallestsweatshirt known to man from
Scotland Today for episodenumber 1,974, we are talking
(01:54):
about the five S's of success.
We used to talk about the fourS's of success.
Screw them, throw them in thetrash.
They're garbage.
The five S's of success arewhere it's at, lock in, because
we're getting ready to do it getyour notebooks out.
Alan Lazaros (02:11):
The floor is yours .
Forget if you're in your car.
Kevin Palmieri (02:14):
Stop everything you're doing what you learned,
everything you've learned beforethis.
This is where it's at no, no,we're kidding.
But if you do, want to write itdown.
I think it'll be helpful.
I'm serious, I'm serious.
Alan Lazaros (02:27):
Yeah, you're not, you're not.
Why not which one's yourfavorite.
Oh, the five S's of success.
The fourth one's my favorite.
Kevin Palmieri (02:36):
Yeah, no, the fifth one.
The fifth one, you gotta stickaround.
Hey, make sure you stick around, very, very very very, very,
very end of this video.
Alan Lazaros (02:48):
So the algorithm pushes it.
And the fifth one is myfavorite.
I think that's what we shoulddo.
We should just lean into, okay.
So some people in this space,they really play the game.
Kevin and I are trying.
Really, we're not, we're not,we're doing our own thing.
I think we should just leaninto it.
Man, I love it.
Okay, first s of success.
Did this recently with a client.
Shout out to you, you know whoyou are and I'm going to be
(03:09):
doing this with all my clients.
Fyi, because we want to assessthis.
First one self, self-concept,self-acceptance, self-love,
self-respect, self-discipline.
Its identity, the self, kevEllen, what about?
(03:30):
Your self-concept has changed?
Make this land.
Kevin Palmieri (03:34):
What about my self-concept?
What is the definition ofself-concept?
What is the definition forthose listening how you?
Alan Lazaros (03:40):
view yourself, how you see yourself.
It's like I'm a winner versusI'm a loser.
Kevin Palmieri (03:46):
I would say that's pretty accurate.
I would say I Excuse me.
I said this on a podcastrecently.
Never felt smart.
Grew up, broke, went from nothaving a job to working at a gas
station.
Then literally every job afterthat was like what, what can I
get?
Not, let me reach for something, not what do I want, what can I
(04:11):
get, what is available to me?
Did that for most of my life.
Never thought I'd be any levelof successful.
Always felt like I was anoutsider.
Looking in my self-concept wasI am a loser.
People will most likely feelbad for me for most of my life
and I'm probably not going toamount to almost anything.
Alan Lazaros (04:34):
The self is a lot of things Self-acceptance,
self-love, all that stuff.
But to really round this out,because we have five to get
through, it's the unconsciousrecord that's playing Apparently
between two and five.
A child starts to noticethemselves in the mirror and
(04:55):
they start to go oh, this is me.
You ever see your cats doingthat, cats just looking in the
mirror going am I ace, am Ifudge?
Kevin Palmieri (05:03):
They don't care.
Alan Lazaros (05:05):
Tal Riel does that .
She's like Hmm, I think this isme Interesting.
Okay, I move my paw, it's verybright, but anyways.
So children do that.
That's the self.
That's you when you first startto identify.
Am I a winner or am I a loser?
Where do I fit in this whole?
Okay, that's the self.
One more thing I want to sayabout the self what was it?
Kevin Palmieri (05:24):
Are we thinking of a pyramid with this Upside
down pyramid pyramid?
I would prefer a cycle.
Alan Lazaros (05:31):
You would prefer a cycle If you were to draw a
star.
This is the star of success.
Kevin Palmieri (05:34):
Oh gosh.
Also, the reason I said F, whatyou heard is because there's
the four S's of success.
Alan Lazaros (05:43):
There are five.
Remember sustain.
Kevin Palmieri (05:45):
You made them the five.
There's the five.
So what are we?
This is like external, this isinternal, the other one's
external.
Alan Lazaros (05:50):
No, this is internal and external.
Kevin Palmieri (05:52):
I need you to organize this shit.
Now we have two.
I know.
Alan Lazaros (05:54):
I like two different frameworks that are
the five S's.
Kevin Palmieri (05:56):
We can't have two Five S's of success.
I know, I know I need you tolock it up.
Alan Lazaros (06:01):
The old one.
Throw that out for now.
Kevin Palmieri (06:03):
Oh no, I like the old one.
I know it's good, it's good,but right now, Kev, right now
we're just going to do the newone.
I'm sorry.
Alan Lazaros (06:10):
This is the five S's of success 2.0, okay, so the
self is the first one.
Boom, we're going to move on.
Next story this is the similarto the self, but here's the
difference the story you tellyourself about yourself is your
ego versus.
One of them is unconscious.
Okay, so kev mightunconsciously have a record
(06:32):
playing of I'm not a winner, I'mgonna lose.
It's the expectation of self.
So kevin, growing up, didn'thave a high expectations of
himself.
Is that fair?
Oh, yeah, okay, the hyperconscious podcast when we
started that eight years ago,you started it.
It I came on, Changed the wayyou think, changed the way you
act, changed the way you live.
What you did is youre-evaluated the story you told
yourself about yourself, whichthen eventually started to take
(06:54):
root in your unconscious.
Okay, so the second one isstory.
Kevin's old record was I'm notgreat, I'm not going to be that
great.
I'm not great, I'm not going tobe that great, I'm not going to
be successful.
I don't have high expectationsof myself.
I'm not going to be anastronaut in NASA.
Okay, then, eventually I'm justsaying then eventually, kev had
(07:16):
a new story of himself in theHyperconscious podcast which is
maybe I can be successful, maybeI can be, maybe I'm smarter
than I thought, maybe I'm harderworking than most people, maybe
I have grit that other peopledon't.
And that's when he startedchanging the story about himself
consciously and then thatstarted to download
unconsciously, okay.
Third state state is I'm hungry,I'm tired.
(07:40):
I had protein pancakes thismorning, so I'm kind of tired.
I'm tired.
I had protein pancakes thismorning, so I'm kind of tired,
protein pancakes.
Right now it's Saturday morning.
You and I are pretty In apretty good place, not only
individually, but Together inour relationship.
So this episode Is going to bea higher Energy episode.
We're in a good spot.
(08:00):
We're laughing, we're havingfun, you're making jokes.
That's when things are good.
I'm hammered, hammered, drunk,hammered drunk, but he's not.
Kevin Palmieri (08:09):
That's when you know you're off the rails when I
have to keep giving thesedisclaimers.
Just assume everything I say isnot true.
No, but they can't do thatbecause then they won't'm gonna
make a whole production about it.
Alan Lazaros (08:23):
you'll know it's not, it's never gonna happen.
Kevin Palmieri (08:25):
Once hungover, very hungover yeah and I did one
podcast after I smoked my pen,but that never saw the light of
day it was about relationships Iremember, and we didn't know
anything, and we disagree.
Alan Lazaros (08:38):
Well yeah, we didn't really know it's like,
yeah, let us teach you.
Kevin Palmieri (08:41):
And it was in a dark basement on a pool table.
Alan Lazaros (08:43):
Yeah, 100% you were.
That's how every great storystarts.
Kevin Palmieri (08:46):
Yes.
Alan Lazaros (08:47):
Okay, so state we were not in a great state.
Kevin and I did an episodeNever saw the light of day
because it was hot garbage.
Kevin Palmieri (08:53):
It was hot garbage.
Alan Lazaros (08:53):
All right, so self story state.
Next is strategy.
You thought I was going toforget.
I almost did get.
I almost did.
I almost did.
Strategy is the how.
What are you going to do?
Are you going to start apodcast?
Okay, you're going to buy a mic.
You're going to buy a camera.
You're going to use StreamYardversus Riverside.
You're going to start a podcast?
Awesome.
How are you going to do it?
Buzzsprout online YouTubeStrategy Love it Chess game
(09:16):
Awesome.
Last one, System.
Once you have the rightself-concept self, Once you have
the right self-concept self,once you have the right story
about yourself, mindset, onceyou have the right state and
you're healthy, happy,productive, fulfilled, feeling
good in your physical body, onceyou have the right strategy,
(09:37):
now it's time to make a system.
What's the difference between astrategy and a system?
A system is something you doconsistently, Okay, and you
iterate upon it and you improveit.
So a system might be.
We do an episode a day foranywhere from 30 to 45 minutes.
Kevin makes jokes while Alansays intelligent things.
Kevin Palmieri (09:57):
Put that right in the intro.
Alan Lazaros (09:58):
Put that right in the intro.
I'm obviously joking.
He's nodding his head, but he'snot giving any audio feedback.
So for all of our audiolisteners, they think I've
offended you.
Kevin Palmieri (10:05):
I like to make Alan feel insecure and I know
how to do it, so it's fun.
Alan Lazaros (10:09):
Nice work, but that's the system.
So metrics, habits, system.
Kevin's been eating a lot ofrice and he had the wrong system
.
He was putting double theamount of rice on accident for
the longest time.
So his system was off andprobably his state considering
he was eating enough to kill asmall horse.
Kevin Palmieri (10:27):
Now let me ask you a question.
It's going to sound stupid, butit will be the most profound
thing you hear today, for sure,mr Alan Lazarus.
Why does any of that matter?
Why, why, why should?
Alan Lazaros (10:38):
I care about any of that shit.
The only way you can achievesuccess is if you have all five
of those in alignment.
What's something you want tosucceed at?
Kevin Palmieri (10:49):
I would like to be the best podcaster who's ever
walked this green earth.
Alan Lazaros (10:53):
Can we use a more simple goal?
What are you trying to get tofor fitness?
Kevin Palmieri (10:58):
One Trying to be the best natural physique
there's ever been, that's everwalked the green earth no
definitely not 170 right now.
Alan Lazaros (11:08):
You're what?
182 or something.
Kevin Palmieri (11:11):
Today I was 180.1.
Alan Lazaros (11:13):
Nice, okay, so you have 10 more pounds.
Yes, okay, 10.1 to be exact.
All right, here we go.
The self what is your selfconcept when it comes to fitness
?
Kevin Palmieri (11:23):
I can achieve it .
I got it.
I'm in control.
I'm a bodybuilder yes, got it,I'm in control.
I'm a bodybuilder yes.
Alan Lazaros (11:31):
That too, also that I'm also a bodybuilder.
Nice, okay, cool, all right.
What is the state I'm going togo?
State cause I put them out oforder before state.
What's your current stateMeaning?
How do you feel physicallyright now?
I?
Kevin Palmieri (11:40):
feel well, didn't get a lot of sleep.
I'm running on a 55 sleep score, 63.
Alan Lazaros (11:47):
Yeah.
Kevin Palmieri (11:47):
I saw you.
Alan Lazaros (11:51):
You liked one of my Facebook, my Instagram
messages at three o'clock in themorning I was up as well.
Yeah, I was going to text youand be like hey man, what's
happening?
How's it going?
Kevin Palmieri (11:56):
Yeah, so honestly, state is probably like
slightly below average allthings considered, just cause I
didn't sleep well Okay.
Alan Lazaros (12:05):
Story.
What's the story?
What's your mindset aboutachieving 10 pounds in 10 weeks?
Kevin Palmieri (12:16):
Right now it is actually surprisingly harder
than I expected and it is goingslower than expected.
So my story is.
Alan Lazaros (12:23):
This is probably going to be a little bit harder
than I had expected.
Okay, is that affecting yourbelief in it, in your ability to
achieve?
No, okay, good, all right.
And then the next one isstrategy.
What's your strategy?
Exercise 10 pounds in the next10 weeks, or how long are you
going?
Kevin Palmieri (12:38):
Yeah, 10 pounds in the next.
But that's the strategy.
Wouldn't the strategy be like amore, a less specific system?
Alan Lazaros (12:46):
Strategy, the Strategy, the strategy is like
the deeper understanding.
The system is what you actuallydo.
Kevin Palmieri (12:51):
So I need to exercise and track my calories.
Alan Lazaros (12:54):
No, no, no.
The strategy is Eat less, burnmore.
You always go to what you doand I like that about you
Because you're a doer, I doer.
Kevin Palmieri (13:06):
I didn't mean it like that I am a doer.
I didn't mean it like that I ama doer.
I didn't mean it like that.
Alan Lazaros (13:12):
You remember a few episodes ago you said I'm not
trying to sex to you.
It was funny, yeah, yeah.
Kevin Palmieri (13:17):
That's from again.
Don't watch it because it'sfairly graphic, but I used to
love it back in the day.
There's a show called Eastboundand Down and he says make sex
to you.
It's like it's so weird to hearthat might be the funniest
thing I've ever heard.
It is really funny.
Alan Lazaros (13:36):
All right, so last one system.
What's your system Meaning?
What do you?
Kevin Palmieri (13:40):
do consistently.
I think the strategy and thesystem are confusing and I think
you should explain them.
You should separate them more,because even for me it's like
the strategy is exercise moreand track calories and then the
system is very specific, like Iexercise five.
Alan Lazaros (13:58):
You know what I mean that that again, they're a
little blurry.
Right, they're very similar,but the system is what you're
iterating upon.
There's something in corporatecalled an sop standard operating
procedure so it's what you'reiterating upon.
There's something in corporatecalled an SOP standard operating
procedure.
So it's what you're doing on aday-to-day basis, and what
you're iterating upon, versusthe strategy, is a high-level
understanding of why.
Kevin Palmieri (14:20):
Would the strategy be a mission statement?
Alan Lazaros (14:25):
The strategy is like let's say, you and I have
an army and we're going to gointo battle, okay, we're going
to use the cannons over here,we're going to have the infantry
here and then we're going tohave the cavalry flank.
Then the system is how you putthe cannonballs in the cannons
and what angle do you put thecannons at in order to hit the
you know, I don't know, I'm notsome, I don't know warfare man,
(14:47):
the cannon.
Kevin Palmieri (14:48):
Yeah, but go ahead.
What I don't know?
Warfare man, the cannon yeah.
But go ahead.
What's your?
Alan Lazaros (14:51):
system.
This is the the intricatedetails of Okay, I'm eating rice
every day.
Yeah, every day.
Kevin Palmieri (14:57):
I wake up, I weigh myself, I try to exercise
for 45 minutes.
I track my calories, I track mymacros.
I make sure, I try to make sureI'm getting enough sleep, which
didn't happen last night, butyeah, I'm very how sleep, which
didn't happen last night, butyeah, I'm very.
How much water a day.
Alan Lazaros (15:12):
All those.
Kevin Palmieri (15:13):
Two of these at least.
So, whatever, this is 36, 72,probably 100 ounces, I would say
Probably 100 ounces Of liquid aday.
Alan Lazaros (15:20):
Nice, anything else Mobility, you do mobility.
Kevin Palmieri (15:23):
I do.
Mobility, yeah, 20 minutes ofmobility, nice Per day.
15 per day 15 to 20, depends onthe day.
Alan Lazaros (15:29):
That's a hell of a system.
It's a great system, so youwill be successful.
If I had to bet, you would besuccessful if you kept all that
up.
Kevin Palmieri (15:38):
This is why it gets weird.
Think about, in my mind that'snot that much Because I've been
doing this for a long time, butthat system started with one of
those things, not all of thosethings.
Yeah, exactly, I wasn't doing20 minutes of mobility and eight
hours of sleep.
That is new.
That's like a newer thing forme, like last couple years I've
(16:00):
been focused on that since I gotmy aura right.
So I don't want anybody to hearthat and say, well, that's a lot
.
It is depending on where youare in the journey.
It's not really a lot for mebecause it flows nicely with my
day and a lot of it'sunconscious.
I just weigh myself, I don'treally think about it and I
remember the number and then Iwrite it down after the gym,
right, but yeah, I just want tothrow that other very last thing
(16:21):
.
Alan Lazaros (16:21):
So if kev were to have one of those five fall,
he'd be in trouble because theyhave to fall.
Like if you had had a poor selfconcept, if you didn't consider
yourself a bodybuilder and youdidn't think you could do any of
this, you wouldn't do the otherones.
You would never even get to thestrategy point Right.
So at the end of the day,success is about external
achievement and you want toachieve 10 pounds in 10 weeks.
(16:44):
I think that that's a noblegoal and I think a lot of people
want that.
A lot of people want to lose 10pounds.
One of the things that I why Icome off so fucking arrogant is
because if I wanted to lose 10pounds, I would just do it, and
that sounds so damn arrogant,but when you break it down, it's
actually not that arrogant.
I just know exactly what therecipe is that's like saying I
know how to make.
I know how to make eggs.
(17:04):
It's the same exact thing sameexact mathematical thing.
Kevin Palmieri (17:07):
Yeah, contextually it sounds arrogant.
Depends on the people you'rearound, though.
Yeah, because if you're hangingout with seven other
bodybuilders, everybody thinksthat exactly, so it's different.
Alan Lazaros (17:16):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, really.
Yeah, it's unfortunate thatit's like that for everyone
context, or so yeah it's likethat for everyone.
Kevin Palmieri (17:23):
Everyone has their thing that they're.
If you're up ahead of thepeople around you in something
and you talk about how easy itis for you, it's going to sound
arrogant.
Speaking is not hard for me,it's not hard anymore but if I
go hang out with somebody who'sterrified of speaking and I talk
about I've done X amount ofblah, blah, blah, it's going to
come off as arrogant as hellwhen I don't mean it that way.
(17:44):
It's just.
This is my current level ofunderstanding.
I had another thought oh toyour.
This is my current level ofunderstanding.
I had another thought oh toyour point.
When I stopped identifying as abodybuilder, I started going to
the gym less and I started todo different workouts.
I had a moment yesterday whereI forgot my belt.
(18:07):
So I wear a belt when I lift.
It's a weightlifting belt.
Tighten the gut Sometimes, yeah, but honestly, a big piece of
it for me is it's I popped a ribonce doing that, you can't Rule
of thumb.
Don't wear a belt while you doleg presses.
I did that.
Alan Lazaros (18:27):
That ain't Rib.
Kevin Palmieri (18:29):
Yeah, your body doesn't bend that way Dumb.
It's weird.
One of the reasons I use ithonestly maybe the biggest
reason I use it has nothing todo with functionality, other
than when I do squats, when I dochest day, I don't need my belt
necessarily.
I'm not going to hurt myself,I'm not worried about that.
I like it because it puts me inthe mindset of a bodybuilder.
Alan Lazaros (18:51):
Yeah.
Kevin Palmieri (18:51):
I invested in new stringers that I have
hanging up on the wall overthere.
Same with the hoodie.
Alan Lazaros (18:55):
Ooh, hat down hoodie.
Kevin Palmieri (18:57):
It's all it's game time.
It's all the music you choose.
It's all the identity.
Alan Lazaros (19:11):
It's all.
The brands come with anidentity too.
So Nike is athletes, so whenyou wear Nike you feel like an
athlete, more of maybe abasketball player or a runner,
and then for bodybuilding itwould be what Gymshark or
whatever, I don't know.
The point is is that there's acertain identity associated with
every product the someone whouses a Apple, a Mac, is
different than someone who usesa PC, that kind of thing.
Kevin Palmieri (19:29):
Next Level Nation.
What is happening?
If you've thought to yourself Iwant to try coaching, but you
don't really know where to start, group coaching would be a
wonderful place for you.
That's really why we created itin the first place.
We start a new round every 90days.
So if you're hearing this, goto the website
nextleveluniversecom and we havethe landing page where you can
(19:50):
actually hold your spot rightnow.
Even if there's a group goingon right now, you can still lock
your spot for the next one.
The biggest thing that we'veseen is, as we get closer and
closer to the date,unfortunately, some people end
up missing.
The group fills up and theycan't do it, and then they end
up regretting that.
So please head over to thewebsite.
The link will be in the shownotes and we would love to see
(20:10):
you there.
Alan Lazaros (20:13):
At the end of the day, these five self state,
story, strategy and system ifthose are in alignment, you will
achieve success.
Now it's just a matter of timeand consistency, and that's the
part that really blows, becauseyou just have to do it for a
really long time, like kev needsto do this for the next 10
weeks maybe we could add a sixths which is what sustained power
(20:38):
yeah now we have the 11 s's oh,baby staying so important.
Did you see my post today?
Kevin Palmieri (20:53):
I have a life outside of this, so, no, I did
not wake up immediately and saywhat did Alan Lazarus post today
?
Alan Lazaros (20:58):
No.
Kevin Palmieri (20:58):
I did Very good.
Alan Lazaros (21:00):
Thank you, brother , and shout out to the team for
that clip.
That was fire.
Kevin Palmieri (21:04):
But I can see you're back to writing novels in
your I'm working on it.
Alan Lazaros (21:09):
Captions I'm working on it.
I'm working on it.
But it breaks down how amazingyou can, the amazing things you
can achieve if you areconsistent over a long period of
time.
So, anyways, if anyone wants tosee that post production team,
can you please link that post inthe show notes?
Kevin Palmieri (21:26):
I will send it to you via WhatsApp now.
Nice, nice, why are these?
We'll get out of here?
I will send it to you viaWhatsApp now.
Nice, nice, why are these?
We'll get out of here?
I've lost track of time.
Just for behind the scenes.
We did yesterday's episode andtoday's episode and we did them
back to back.
So we just we did the firstepisode, just kept the recording
going.
So the timer in the top leftthat tells you how long you've
been recording for isessentially useless, because I
(21:48):
don't know how long the firstepisode was.
Are these five s's better thanthe other five s's or are they
just different, different?
so the other five s's are, uh,struggle, no sacrifice sacrifice
, struggle, struggle, suffer,suffer, succeed, sustain,
(22:08):
sustain yep, I like those better.
Alan Lazaros (22:10):
We're going to put both in the show notes, both
digital assets of both pairs ofS's in the show notes, and then
Kevin and I are probably goingto end up coming up with a
combination of all of them, andI do like the idea of staying
power.
I think that's really powerful.
So we'll come up with somethingand we'll iterate like we do,
and for now, those digitalassets will be in the show notes
(22:33):
.
Kevin Palmieri (22:33):
It's going to be the 75 S's of success, and then
eventually it'll be the 365 S'sof success, and every day you
can flip the page and there'llbe a new one.
What do you think about that?
Alan Lazaros (22:47):
That's a terrible idea, that what?
Kevin Palmieri (22:51):
do you think about that?
That's a terrible idea.
That's a fucking terrible idea.
Alan Lazaros (22:52):
Well, I can see it Today stool.
Test your stool for the propermarkers.
Kevin Palmieri (22:58):
Are we talking about poop now?
Okay, cool, I didn't expectthat.
I didn't think that was thefirst S you would draw From the
random cards of S.
But stool it is.
Alan Lazaros (23:09):
The 365 S's.
Day 362, have you checked yourstool?
Kevin Palmieri (23:14):
You'd have to get creative.
You'd run out of probablyconstructive ones.
Alan Lazaros (23:19):
How's your sex life?
Kevin Palmieri (23:21):
Sex would be one for sure, yeah.
Alan Lazaros (23:26):
I don't know.
There's no way.
Somatic expression.
Kevin Palmieri (23:28):
That's a good one.
I feel like you're gonna takemy job.
Alan Lazaros (23:33):
I usually name stuff around here well, you only
got a 55 sleep score, so I'lltake it easy on you well, I mean
I'm I don't know, I'm ready, Ithink I'm ready to retire and
kind of kind of sail around theworld.
Kevin Palmieri (23:43):
It's an excellent state 8 years, it's
been a good run.
1974 episodes like why do wehave to get to 2000?
It's close enough, you know,let's call it a day, alright.
What is your wrap up before welet everybody go on a boot their
day?
Alan Lazaros (24:01):
external success is really, really hard to
achieve.
Everyone has these dreams,whether it be a dream car or a
dream body or a dream home, oneclient horsey farm, one client
mansion on the beach, villa inSpain, you name it.
Dreams are not easy to achieve.
(24:21):
They're actually alarminglydifficult to achieve, and while
it does sound really cool to sayeveryone can achieve their
goals and dreams if they settheir mind to it, statistically
that's wildly fucking untrue,and so what I'm trying to say
here is these five S's will helpyou, and if you check in with
them consistently, like I dowith my clients, you're going to
increase your chances of actualsuccess by such a significant
(24:44):
margin.
You can't wing it and win.
You can, you can wing it andwin, but but very, very, very
few people do that, and even ifyou do do that, it's very hard
to sustain something that youdidn't design.
So I'm grateful you're here,I'm grateful you're listening,
and success is a lot harder thanI think people let on.
Kevin Palmieri (25:03):
I would say getting to a result by accident
just increases imposter syndrome, because you know, you don't
know how you did it and it'sjust not a good place to be.
Not a good place to be.
I don't know if I've everreally well, I guess in the past
kind of, but most of the time Iwas unsuccessful.
Alan Lazaros (25:27):
Relationships, though, and fitness kind of
winging it.
Relationships, though andfitness Kind of winging it.
Relationships more.
Kevin Palmieri (25:33):
I was going to say.
I feel like you think I was outhere Jeffing fitness.
I've been tracking caloriessince before.
It was a thing.
Alan Lazaros (25:39):
Yeah, but you never pulled, you never did
muscle building phases.
Kevin Palmieri (25:43):
I didn't need to .
I just wanted to beat abs, justabs, can you?
Alan Lazaros (25:50):
imagine if you did Dude, your old coach would have
told you dude, you've got to doan off-season bulk.
Kevin Palmieri (25:56):
You've got to build this muscle here.
I wanted to be lean all thetime.
It's dumb.
Alan Lazaros (26:01):
It's a dumb idea, terrible idea.
Kevin Palmieri (26:05):
It wasn't great.
It wasn't great, but I was moredialed in than you probably
think I was more dialed in thanyou probably think I was more
dialed in.
Alan Lazaros (26:12):
That assumes you know what I think.
I know you think less.
What if you were exactly?
Kevin Palmieri (26:17):
dialed in as much as I think the statistical,
the statistical probability ofthat is just off the charts
astronomical it's astronomicalat best.
Anything else you'd want to sayto the?
Alan Lazaros (26:29):
people here.
No, what's your wrap up?
Oh, shoot, okay, what's your?
Kevin Palmieri (26:31):
wrap up.
Oh shoot, okay, what is my wrapup?
Having any outline is a reallygood place to start, even if
you're not practicing itperfectly.
It doesn't exist anyway.
It's just a really good placeto start.
Would you rather walk through adark cave with a rope, like you
get to hang on to the rope, orwould you just want to freestyle
(26:53):
it?
I'm willing to bet you'reyou'll be more successful when
you hang on to the rope For somereason.
I've been watching these reallyanxiety provoking people who do
like cave spurlunking and whenI tell you anxiety, I mean
there's barely enough room toget by and they're having the
(27:13):
time of their lives.
These people are builtdifferent, but in a lot of these
caves they have ropes to followup.
There's a reason, because whenyou lose the rope you die.
Now life isn't that serious,but it kind of is.
Alan Lazaros (27:30):
It kind of is.
Kevin Palmieri (27:31):
It's a good metaphor dreams your dreams die,
and it's really hard when youlose the rope.
It can be really hard to getback to it.
So I would much rather the ropebe sustainable.
I'd rather you, let's just cool, start with self.
Awesome, love it.
Start there.
That's something to follow,that's something constructive,
that's something that leads youin a direction that you want to
(27:52):
go.
I think that's a great place.
That's where I started.
I started with self.
I didn't have any of the otherstuff and then eventually, I
figured out on my own and then Ihad the privilege of teaching
millions of people how to dothat.
And here we are Now.
I'm a self-made man.
Self self-made no no I I thinkto to the point of this.
(28:14):
Sometimes strategy is findingsomeone who knows how to do it
better than you do.
Alan Lazaros (28:21):
Oftentimes that strategy I just want to say
lately I've enjoyed the show alot because we're back.
I think we're talking a lotabout achieving dreams again.
We used to be all about dreamsback in the day, remember we
have there's.
Kevin Palmieri (28:33):
I mean, it's so hard.
I said this to Taron the otherday.
I said you'd think after 2000episodes I'd like know what I
was doing.
I feel like I know less.
I don't know.
It's weird.
It's like I'm too in it now.
Alan Lazaros (28:44):
I don't so yeah, we're talking about dreams again
.
Man, when we first started, wewere big dreamers, you and I.
We were naive as shit.
Kevin Palmieri (28:51):
But we were dreamers.
We're still big dreamers, but Ialso think that now we know
what matters more and whatmatters less, and this
definitely matters.
So, so, so, so, so much, somuch.
I don't want to take away fromthat.
I just didn't.
I don't know if I understoodhow much the internal game
really mattered.
Well, you.
Alan Lazaros (29:11):
I know we got to jump.
You have.
I don't think.
I think people, when they thinkof dreams, they think of
astronaut or no.
I'm talking.
What car do you want to drive?
I'm talking.
What do you want your lifestyleto look like?
I'm talking where do you wantto live?
What kind of home Do you want?
Cathedral ceilings?
Well, I think that's a good.
That's a good.
I mean, whenever I say dreams,it doesn't mean you have to want
(29:33):
to be an olympic gold medalist.
That can be the case and ifthat is the case, reach out
please.
But I want to eventually coacholympians.
Kevin Palmieri (29:41):
That would be awesome but, you need to do like
a side.
You need to do a side quest andgo get a gold medal in
something archery or somethingthat way you can say you're an
Olympic gold medalist.
Alan Lazaros (29:50):
Sidequest, I want to stick to business coaching.
That's my jam.
Kevin Palmieri (29:55):
I'll give you a gold medal in that.
Alan Lazaros (29:57):
Thank you, you're welcome.
Immediately after I did mymarathon, she took an Oreo box.
Kevin Palmieri (30:01):
I respect that.
I kid you not.
Alan Lazaros (30:02):
She taped yellow tape and she said number one
something and she gave me a goldoreo metal.
It wasn't even circle.
It's brutal, it's awesome.
I have it in my drawer rightover here, man.
Kevin Palmieri (30:14):
Yeah, and I wore it.
Alan Lazaros (30:15):
I wore that shit on my last lap.
I looked like a 90 year old man.
I haven't posted that video.
It's not good.
I think you should I'm not ahuge fan of it.
Kevin Palmieri (30:27):
Well, yeah but like what would you tell someone
listening?
Alan Lazaros (30:30):
it was like a a jaunt, a very painful jaunt at
the end.
But anyways, dreams man dreams Ihad a dream to run 25 miles
without stopping at some point,and I did that, but walking at
the end, I mean barely walking,but it was a dream.
Right, I did a triathlon.
That was a dream.
(30:50):
These right, I did a triathlon.
That was a dream.
These are dreams, they don'thave to be.
I wanted to be a fitness model.
That was a fucking dream.
I did it right.
I wanted to win a fitness show.
I, fucking I did it.
That felt so good to achieve mydreams.
I just think we need dreams and, yeah, we need to be realistic
and honest with ourselves andself-awareness, but you got to
have dreams.
I'm very grateful.
(31:11):
We're talking a lot more aboutthat lately.
Same Same Life without dreamsis not as fulfilling.
Kevin Palmieri (31:19):
It's definitely not as fulfilling, and I don't
think it's as exciting, I don'tthink it's as meaningful, I
think it's easy to.
Anytime I've ever said, likewhat the hell is the point of
all this?
I didn't have dreams and or mycircumstances were terrible.
(31:40):
I'd say that too.
At the beginning of this.
I thought it was all worth it,but it was like what if those
two are connected?
What if?
What two are connected?
Alan Lazaros (31:51):
Not having dreams and having terrible
circumstances I would they'renot you, I was gonna yeah, I was
gonna say I would, that's howI'm willing to die on.
They are not.
They are fucking.
They're not always some of theworst circumstances I've had are
because of this dream son,they're not always connected
they're never yeah, but they'renever yeah, they're never
(32:11):
connected Wanting to start afamily, wanting to get married,
wanting to have pets, wanting tohave a home, wanting to have a
career in a certain industry,like all of those are dreams.
I just think it's important torealize that when we're kids, we
had all these dreams.
You achieved a bunch of yourdreams.
Kevin Palmieri (32:26):
I did.
Alan Lazaros (32:26):
I did.
Kevin Palmieri (32:27):
I think that's a really good thing to talk about
and again we're going to go.
We're just going to keeprunning this on because we like
talking about this.
But dreams are personal andjust because maybe your dream I
think that's the beauty of whatAlan said Maybe your dream is
not to have a horse farm with100 acres in the middle of the
(32:50):
US, somewhere in the lands Cool,that's okay.
Maybe your dream is to have acertain amount of money in the
bank awesome.
Maybe it's to marry someone orhave a great family awesome.
Maybe it's whatever, but it'spersonal to you and don't let
anybody.
I hate when people say like, oh,dream bigger, dream bigger.
(33:17):
I I understand, I think that'sgood to for some people, but
let's start with.
Let's start with recognizingthe fact that you had the
courage to dream in the firstplace.
Let's start with that strongwork for dreaming.
And maybe you are more capablethan you think, but I'm not
going to shit on you for havinga dream in the first place.
Shout out to you.
I respect it.
And again, I think in thebeginning I probably didn't
understand that.
(33:37):
I didn't understand that dreamsare personal and who am I to
tell you that your dream isn'tbig enough.
Who am I?
Who am I to tell you Now if youaccomplish it and it feels
empty and all.
Maybe there's, maybe there'ssomething on the other side of
that, but I think it's important.
Alan Lazaros (33:54):
Dreams are personal yeah, the only thing I
would say is if you don't havedreams, I would check in on that
because I think that dreams aresomething that to look forward
to in the future, that you canbecome more in pursuit of, and I
think that that's what makeslife extra special and it can be
like I said.
I said it can be anything, anynumber of things.
I've had vision boards where Iwrote down a bunch of stuff and
(34:14):
some of them came true.
Some of them I'm like fuck that.
Some of them I'm still goingfor, but I've achieved a lot of
them and I think that's awesome.
I do.
There's no better feeling inthe world than achieving a dream
that was once just in yourimagination 100.
Kevin Palmieri (34:30):
speaking of dreams, let's get out of here so
I can go back to bed and dream.
No, I'm not going back.
We have a meeting after this.
Uh, next little nation, april5th 2025.
Next little live 2025 totallyvirtual.
So we've hosted many in-personevents.
I can say that at this point,we've hosted and or co-hosted
and done most of the work forthe ones that we co-hosted.
(34:51):
And also fairness, this yearwe're going purely virtual.
Six In six events.
That's a good amount of events.
We're going purely virtualbecause we have a global
audience and if you live inEurope or you live in Alaska or
wherever you live, it might notmake financial sense to take a
flight across the world and orcountry for a one-day event.
(35:13):
It's expensive, not supersustainable and not accessible
to most people.
So we're doing it totallyvirtual, from 10 am until 5 pm,
so a full-day event.
Tickets are only $47.
And with that ticket, with thatpurchase, you get access to the
replay.
It's going to be awesome.
You get access to the replay.
It's going to be awesome, alanand I having the time of our
lives.
Amy's going to be there, amy'sflying in.
So, yeah, we want it to be areally positive event for you.
(35:37):
There's going to be breakoutsessions.
You're going to meet otherpeople.
I can't imagine it wouldn't bea really transformational day.
And 47 bucks.
I know times are rough rightnow.
Money's tight, things areexpensive AF.
We didn't want this event to beexpensive AF, because we want
you to be able to come andtransform with us, so we'll have
the link in the show notes forit.
Alan Lazaros (35:57):
People don't pay the price unless the promise is
clear, kevin and I promise it'llbe worth the money.
It's not 47 bucks because it'sless valuable.
It's 47 bucks so that it'saffordable, so that we can
provide value to more people.
Speaking of dreams if you'reout there and you feel alone in
(36:19):
pursuit of your dreams, I had aclient reach out to me this
morning and talk about how muchshe's struggling because every
time she goes out with friends,she feels like they're trying to
convince her to live like theydo and she can't not with her
dreams.
She's not gonna convince her tolive like they do and she can't
Not with her dreams.
She's not going to be able tolive like they do Bar hopping
and she feels alone.
If you feel alone in pursuit ofyour dreams, reach out.
I can promise you this.
(36:40):
I will increase the probabilitythat you achieve your goals and
dreams.
I can't promise it'll be easy.
I can't promise it'll all befun it definitely fucking won't
but I can promise you will havea higher chance of achieving
your dreams.
It's a good way to put it.
Thanks man.
Kevin Palmieri (36:57):
No, you're welcome.
No, no joke.
I know you're waiting for me todrop something, that's it.
That was it.
Just a compliment, notbackhanded, just a regular
compliment.
Alan Lazaros (37:07):
Fronthanded compliment.
I was going to say fronthanded.
Kevin Palmieri (37:09):
Well, that's not good either.
All right, cool, as always.
We love you, we appreciate you,we are grateful, grateful,
grateful for each and every oneof you at NLU.
We don't have fans, we havefamily.
We will talk to you alltomorrow, keep it Next Level,
Next Level Nation.
Thanks for joining us foranother episode of Next Level
University.
We love connecting with theNext.
Alan Lazaros (37:30):
Level family.
We mean it when we say family.
If you ever need anything,please reach out to us directly.
Everything you need to get ahold of us is in the show notes.
Kevin Palmieri (37:40):
Thank, you again and we will talk to you
tomorrow.
Thank you.
Having any outline is a really good place
to start, even if you're notpracticing it perfectly.
It doesn't exist anyway.
It's just a really good placeto start.
Yeah, would you rather walkthrough a dark cave with a rope,
like you get to hang on to therope, or would you just want to
freestyle it?
I'm willing to bet you'll bemore successful when you hang on
(00:21):
to the rope.
Alan Lazaros (00:22):
Everyone has these dreams, whether it be a dream
car or a dream body or a dreamhome.
One client horsey farm, oneclient mansion on the beach,
villa in Spain, you name it.
Dreams are not easy to achieve.
They're actually alarminglydifficult to achieve.
And while it does sound reallycool to say everyone can achieve
(00:43):
their goals and dreams if theyset their mind to it,
statistically that's wildlyfucking untrue.
Kevin Palmieri (00:48):
Welcome to Next Level University.
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Kevin Palmieri (01:32):
Next Level University, next Level Nation.
Welcome back to another episodeof Next Level University where
we help you level up your life,your love, your health and your
wealth.
I am still wearing the smallestsweatshirt known to man from
Scotland Today for episodenumber 1,974, we are talking
(01:54):
about the five S's of success.
We used to talk about the fourS's of success.
Screw them, throw them in thetrash.
They're garbage.
The five S's of success arewhere it's at, lock in, because
we're getting ready to do it getyour notebooks out.
Alan Lazaros (02:11):
The floor is yours .
Forget if you're in your car.
Kevin Palmieri (02:14):
Stop everything you're doing what you learned,
everything you've learned beforethis.
This is where it's at no, no,we're kidding.
But if you do, want to write itdown.
I think it'll be helpful.
I'm serious, I'm serious.
Alan Lazaros (02:27):
Yeah, you're not, you're not.
Why not which one's yourfavorite.
Oh, the five S's of success.
The fourth one's my favorite.
Kevin Palmieri (02:36):
Yeah, no, the fifth one.
The fifth one, you gotta stickaround.
Hey, make sure you stick around, very, very very very, very,
very end of this video.
Alan Lazaros (02:48):
So the algorithm pushes it.
And the fifth one is myfavorite.
I think that's what we shoulddo.
We should just lean into, okay.
So some people in this space,they really play the game.
Kevin and I are trying.
Really, we're not, we're not,we're doing our own thing.
I think we should just leaninto it.
Man, I love it.
Okay, first s of success.
Did this recently with a client.
Shout out to you, you know whoyou are and I'm going to be
(03:09):
doing this with all my clients.
Fyi, because we want to assessthis.
First one self, self-concept,self-acceptance, self-love,
self-respect, self-discipline.
Its identity, the self, kevEllen, what about?
(03:30):
Your self-concept has changed?
Make this land.
Kevin Palmieri (03:34):
What about my self-concept?
What is the definition ofself-concept?
What is the definition forthose listening how you?
Alan Lazaros (03:40):
view yourself, how you see yourself.
It's like I'm a winner versusI'm a loser.
Kevin Palmieri (03:46):
I would say that's pretty accurate.
I would say I Excuse me.
I said this on a podcastrecently.
Never felt smart.
Grew up, broke, went from nothaving a job to working at a gas
station.
Then literally every job afterthat was like what, what can I
get?
Not, let me reach for something, not what do I want, what can I
(04:11):
get, what is available to me?
Did that for most of my life.
Never thought I'd be any levelof successful.
Always felt like I was anoutsider.
Looking in my self-concept wasI am a loser.
People will most likely feelbad for me for most of my life
and I'm probably not going toamount to almost anything.
Alan Lazaros (04:34):
The self is a lot of things Self-acceptance,
self-love, all that stuff.
But to really round this out,because we have five to get
through, it's the unconsciousrecord that's playing Apparently
between two and five.
A child starts to noticethemselves in the mirror and
(04:55):
they start to go oh, this is me.
You ever see your cats doingthat, cats just looking in the
mirror going am I ace, am Ifudge?
Kevin Palmieri (05:03):
They don't care.
Alan Lazaros (05:05):
Tal Riel does that .
She's like Hmm, I think this isme Interesting.
Okay, I move my paw, it's verybright, but anyways.
So children do that.
That's the self.
That's you when you first startto identify.
Am I a winner or am I a loser?
Where do I fit in this whole?
Okay, that's the self.
One more thing I want to sayabout the self what was it?
Kevin Palmieri (05:24):
Are we thinking of a pyramid with this Upside
down pyramid pyramid?
I would prefer a cycle.
Alan Lazaros (05:31):
You would prefer a cycle If you were to draw a
star.
This is the star of success.
Kevin Palmieri (05:34):
Oh gosh.
Also, the reason I said F, whatyou heard is because there's
the four S's of success.
Alan Lazaros (05:43):
There are five.
Remember sustain.
Kevin Palmieri (05:45):
You made them the five.
There's the five.
So what are we?
This is like external, this isinternal, the other one's
external.
Alan Lazaros (05:50):
No, this is internal and external.
Kevin Palmieri (05:52):
I need you to organize this shit.
Now we have two.
I know.
Alan Lazaros (05:54):
I like two different frameworks that are
the five S's.
Kevin Palmieri (05:56):
We can't have two Five S's of success.
I know, I know I need you tolock it up.
Alan Lazaros (06:01):
The old one.
Throw that out for now.
Kevin Palmieri (06:03):
Oh no, I like the old one.
I know it's good, it's good,but right now, Kev, right now
we're just going to do the newone.
I'm sorry.
Alan Lazaros (06:10):
This is the five S's of success 2.0, okay, so the
self is the first one.
Boom, we're going to move on.
Next story this is the similarto the self, but here's the
difference the story you tellyourself about yourself is your
ego versus.
One of them is unconscious.
Okay, so kev mightunconsciously have a record
(06:32):
playing of I'm not a winner, I'mgonna lose.
It's the expectation of self.
So kevin, growing up, didn'thave a high expectations of
himself.
Is that fair?
Oh, yeah, okay, the hyperconscious podcast when we
started that eight years ago,you started it.
It I came on, Changed the wayyou think, changed the way you
act, changed the way you live.
What you did is youre-evaluated the story you told
yourself about yourself, whichthen eventually started to take
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root in your unconscious.
Okay, so the second one isstory.
Kevin's old record was I'm notgreat, I'm not going to be that
great.
I'm not great, I'm not going tobe that great, I'm not going to
be successful.
I don't have high expectationsof myself.
I'm not going to be anastronaut in NASA.
Okay, then, eventually I'm justsaying then eventually, kev had
(07:16):
a new story of himself in theHyperconscious podcast which is
maybe I can be successful, maybeI can be, maybe I'm smarter
than I thought, maybe I'm harderworking than most people, maybe
I have grit that other peopledon't.
And that's when he startedchanging the story about himself
consciously and then thatstarted to download
unconsciously, okay.
Third state state is I'm hungry,I'm tired.
(07:40):
I had protein pancakes thismorning, so I'm kind of tired.
I'm tired.
I had protein pancakes thismorning, so I'm kind of tired,
protein pancakes.
Right now it's Saturday morning.
You and I are pretty In apretty good place, not only
individually, but Together inour relationship.
So this episode Is going to bea higher Energy episode.
We're in a good spot.
(08:00):
We're laughing, we're havingfun, you're making jokes.
That's when things are good.
I'm hammered, hammered, drunk,hammered drunk, but he's not.
Kevin Palmieri (08:09):
That's when you know you're off the rails when I
have to keep giving thesedisclaimers.
Just assume everything I say isnot true.
No, but they can't do thatbecause then they won't'm gonna
make a whole production about it.
Alan Lazaros (08:23):
you'll know it's not, it's never gonna happen.
Kevin Palmieri (08:25):
Once hungover, very hungover yeah and I did one
podcast after I smoked my pen,but that never saw the light of
day it was about relationships Iremember, and we didn't know
anything, and we disagree.
Alan Lazaros (08:38):
Well yeah, we didn't really know it's like,
yeah, let us teach you.
Kevin Palmieri (08:41):
And it was in a dark basement on a pool table.
Alan Lazaros (08:43):
Yeah, 100% you were.
That's how every great storystarts.
Kevin Palmieri (08:46):
Yes.
Alan Lazaros (08:47):
Okay, so state we were not in a great state.
Kevin and I did an episodeNever saw the light of day
because it was hot garbage.
Kevin Palmieri (08:53):
It was hot garbage.
Alan Lazaros (08:53):
All right, so self story state.
Next is strategy.
You thought I was going toforget.
I almost did get.
I almost did.
I almost did.
Strategy is the how.
What are you going to do?
Are you going to start apodcast?
Okay, you're going to buy a mic.
You're going to buy a camera.
You're going to use StreamYardversus Riverside.
You're going to start a podcast?
Awesome.
How are you going to do it?
Buzzsprout online YouTubeStrategy Love it Chess game
(09:16):
Awesome.
Last one, System.
Once you have the rightself-concept self, Once you have
the right self-concept self,once you have the right story
about yourself, mindset, onceyou have the right state and
you're healthy, happy,productive, fulfilled, feeling
good in your physical body, onceyou have the right strategy,
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now it's time to make a system.
What's the difference between astrategy and a system?
A system is something you doconsistently, Okay, and you
iterate upon it and you improveit.
So a system might be.
We do an episode a day foranywhere from 30 to 45 minutes.
Kevin makes jokes while Alansays intelligent things.
Kevin Palmieri (09:57):
Put that right in the intro.
Alan Lazaros (09:58):
Put that right in the intro.
I'm obviously joking.
He's nodding his head, but he'snot giving any audio feedback.
So for all of our audiolisteners, they think I've
offended you.
Kevin Palmieri (10:05):
I like to make Alan feel insecure and I know
how to do it, so it's fun.
Alan Lazaros (10:09):
Nice work, but that's the system.
So metrics, habits, system.
Kevin's been eating a lot ofrice and he had the wrong system
.
He was putting double theamount of rice on accident for
the longest time.
So his system was off andprobably his state considering
he was eating enough to kill asmall horse.
Kevin Palmieri (10:27):
Now let me ask you a question.
It's going to sound stupid, butit will be the most profound
thing you hear today, for sure,mr Alan Lazarus.
Why does any of that matter?
Why, why, why should?
Alan Lazaros (10:38):
I care about any of that shit.
The only way you can achievesuccess is if you have all five
of those in alignment.
What's something you want tosucceed at?
Kevin Palmieri (10:49):
I would like to be the best podcaster who's ever
walked this green earth.
Alan Lazaros (10:53):
Can we use a more simple goal?
What are you trying to get tofor fitness?
Kevin Palmieri (10:58):
One Trying to be the best natural physique
there's ever been, that's everwalked the green earth no
definitely not 170 right now.
Alan Lazaros (11:08):
You're what?
182 or something.
Kevin Palmieri (11:11):
Today I was 180.1.
Alan Lazaros (11:13):
Nice, okay, so you have 10 more pounds.
Yes, okay, 10.1 to be exact.
All right, here we go.
The self what is your selfconcept when it comes to fitness
?
Kevin Palmieri (11:23):
I can achieve it .
I got it.
I'm in control.
I'm a bodybuilder yes, got it,I'm in control.
I'm a bodybuilder yes.
Alan Lazaros (11:31):
That too, also that I'm also a bodybuilder.
Nice, okay, cool, all right.
What is the state I'm going togo?
State cause I put them out oforder before state.
What's your current stateMeaning?
How do you feel physicallyright now?
I?
Kevin Palmieri (11:40):
feel well, didn't get a lot of sleep.
I'm running on a 55 sleep score, 63.
Alan Lazaros (11:47):
Yeah.
Kevin Palmieri (11:47):
I saw you.
Alan Lazaros (11:51):
You liked one of my Facebook, my Instagram
messages at three o'clock in themorning I was up as well.
Yeah, I was going to text youand be like hey man, what's
happening?
How's it going?
Kevin Palmieri (11:56):
Yeah, so honestly, state is probably like
slightly below average allthings considered, just cause I
didn't sleep well Okay.
Alan Lazaros (12:05):
Story.
What's the story?
What's your mindset aboutachieving 10 pounds in 10 weeks?
Kevin Palmieri (12:16):
Right now it is actually surprisingly harder
than I expected and it is goingslower than expected.
So my story is.
Alan Lazaros (12:23):
This is probably going to be a little bit harder
than I had expected.
Okay, is that affecting yourbelief in it, in your ability to
achieve?
No, okay, good, all right.
And then the next one isstrategy.
What's your strategy?
Exercise 10 pounds in the next10 weeks, or how long are you
going?
Kevin Palmieri (12:38):
Yeah, 10 pounds in the next.
But that's the strategy.
Wouldn't the strategy be like amore, a less specific system?
Alan Lazaros (12:46):
Strategy, the Strategy, the strategy is like
the deeper understanding.
The system is what you actuallydo.
Kevin Palmieri (12:51):
So I need to exercise and track my calories.
Alan Lazaros (12:54):
No, no, no.
The strategy is Eat less, burnmore.
You always go to what you doand I like that about you
Because you're a doer, I doer.
Kevin Palmieri (13:06):
I didn't mean it like that I am a doer.
I didn't mean it like that I ama doer.
I didn't mean it like that.
Alan Lazaros (13:12):
You remember a few episodes ago you said I'm not
trying to sex to you.
It was funny, yeah, yeah.
Kevin Palmieri (13:17):
That's from again.
Don't watch it because it'sfairly graphic, but I used to
love it back in the day.
There's a show called Eastboundand Down and he says make sex
to you.
It's like it's so weird to hearthat might be the funniest
thing I've ever heard.
It is really funny.
Alan Lazaros (13:36):
All right, so last one system.
What's your system Meaning?
What do you?
Kevin Palmieri (13:40):
do consistently.
I think the strategy and thesystem are confusing and I think
you should explain them.
You should separate them more,because even for me it's like
the strategy is exercise moreand track calories and then the
system is very specific, like Iexercise five.
Alan Lazaros (13:58):
You know what I mean that that again, they're a
little blurry.
Right, they're very similar,but the system is what you're
iterating upon.
There's something in corporatecalled an sop standard operating
procedure so it's what you'reiterating upon.
There's something in corporatecalled an SOP standard operating
procedure.
So it's what you're doing on aday-to-day basis, and what
you're iterating upon, versusthe strategy, is a high-level
understanding of why.
Kevin Palmieri (14:20):
Would the strategy be a mission statement?
Alan Lazaros (14:25):
The strategy is like let's say, you and I have
an army and we're going to gointo battle, okay, we're going
to use the cannons over here,we're going to have the infantry
here and then we're going tohave the cavalry flank.
Then the system is how you putthe cannonballs in the cannons
and what angle do you put thecannons at in order to hit the
you know, I don't know, I'm notsome, I don't know warfare man,
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the cannon.
Kevin Palmieri (14:48):
Yeah, but go ahead.
What I don't know?
Warfare man, the cannon yeah.
But go ahead.
What's your?
Alan Lazaros (14:51):
system.
This is the the intricatedetails of Okay, I'm eating rice
every day.
Yeah, every day.
Kevin Palmieri (14:57):
I wake up, I weigh myself, I try to exercise
for 45 minutes.
I track my calories, I track mymacros.
I make sure, I try to make sureI'm getting enough sleep, which
didn't happen last night, butyeah, I'm very how sleep, which
didn't happen last night, butyeah, I'm very.
How much water a day.
Alan Lazaros (15:12):
All those.
Kevin Palmieri (15:13):
Two of these at least.
So, whatever, this is 36, 72,probably 100 ounces, I would say
Probably 100 ounces Of liquid aday.
Alan Lazaros (15:20):
Nice, anything else Mobility, you do mobility.
Kevin Palmieri (15:23):
I do.
Mobility, yeah, 20 minutes ofmobility, nice Per day.
15 per day 15 to 20, depends onthe day.
Alan Lazaros (15:29):
That's a hell of a system.
It's a great system, so youwill be successful.
If I had to bet, you would besuccessful if you kept all that
up.
Kevin Palmieri (15:38):
This is why it gets weird.
Think about, in my mind that'snot that much Because I've been
doing this for a long time, butthat system started with one of
those things, not all of thosethings.
Yeah, exactly, I wasn't doing20 minutes of mobility and eight
hours of sleep.
That is new.
That's like a newer thing forme, like last couple years I've
(16:00):
been focused on that since I gotmy aura right.
So I don't want anybody to hearthat and say, well, that's a lot
.
It is depending on where youare in the journey.
It's not really a lot for mebecause it flows nicely with my
day and a lot of it'sunconscious.
I just weigh myself, I don'treally think about it and I
remember the number and then Iwrite it down after the gym,
right, but yeah, I just want tothrow that other very last thing
(16:21):
.
Alan Lazaros (16:21):
So if kev were to have one of those five fall,
he'd be in trouble because theyhave to fall.
Like if you had had a poor selfconcept, if you didn't consider
yourself a bodybuilder and youdidn't think you could do any of
this, you wouldn't do the otherones.
You would never even get to thestrategy point Right.
So at the end of the day,success is about external
achievement and you want toachieve 10 pounds in 10 weeks.
(16:44):
I think that that's a noblegoal and I think a lot of people
want that.
A lot of people want to lose 10pounds.
One of the things that I why Icome off so fucking arrogant is
because if I wanted to lose 10pounds, I would just do it, and
that sounds so damn arrogant,but when you break it down, it's
actually not that arrogant.
I just know exactly what therecipe is that's like saying I
know how to make.
I know how to make eggs.
(17:04):
It's the same exact thing sameexact mathematical thing.
Kevin Palmieri (17:07):
Yeah, contextually it sounds arrogant.
Depends on the people you'rearound, though.
Yeah, because if you're hangingout with seven other
bodybuilders, everybody thinksthat exactly, so it's different.
Alan Lazaros (17:16):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, really.
Yeah, it's unfortunate thatit's like that for everyone
context, or so yeah it's likethat for everyone.
Kevin Palmieri (17:23):
Everyone has their thing that they're.
If you're up ahead of thepeople around you in something
and you talk about how easy itis for you, it's going to sound
arrogant.
Speaking is not hard for me,it's not hard anymore but if I
go hang out with somebody who'sterrified of speaking and I talk
about I've done X amount ofblah, blah, blah, it's going to
come off as arrogant as hellwhen I don't mean it that way.
(17:44):
It's just.
This is my current level ofunderstanding.
I had another thought oh toyour.
This is my current level ofunderstanding.
I had another thought oh toyour point.
When I stopped identifying as abodybuilder, I started going to
the gym less and I started todo different workouts.
I had a moment yesterday whereI forgot my belt.
(18:07):
So I wear a belt when I lift.
It's a weightlifting belt.
Tighten the gut Sometimes, yeah, but honestly, a big piece of
it for me is it's I popped a ribonce doing that, you can't Rule
of thumb.
Don't wear a belt while you doleg presses.
I did that.
Alan Lazaros (18:27):
That ain't Rib.
Kevin Palmieri (18:29):
Yeah, your body doesn't bend that way Dumb.
It's weird.
One of the reasons I use ithonestly maybe the biggest
reason I use it has nothing todo with functionality, other
than when I do squats, when I dochest day, I don't need my belt
necessarily.
I'm not going to hurt myself,I'm not worried about that.
I like it because it puts me inthe mindset of a bodybuilder.
Alan Lazaros (18:51):
Yeah.
Kevin Palmieri (18:51):
I invested in new stringers that I have
hanging up on the wall overthere.
Same with the hoodie.
Alan Lazaros (18:55):
Ooh, hat down hoodie.
Kevin Palmieri (18:57):
It's all it's game time.
It's all the music you choose.
It's all the identity.
Alan Lazaros (19:11):
It's all.
The brands come with anidentity too.
So Nike is athletes, so whenyou wear Nike you feel like an
athlete, more of maybe abasketball player or a runner,
and then for bodybuilding itwould be what Gymshark or
whatever, I don't know.
The point is is that there's acertain identity associated with
every product the someone whouses a Apple, a Mac, is
different than someone who usesa PC, that kind of thing.
Kevin Palmieri (19:29):
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What is happening?
If you've thought to yourself Iwant to try coaching, but you
don't really know where to start, group coaching would be a
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That's really why we created itin the first place.
We start a new round every 90days.
So if you're hearing this, goto the website
nextleveluniversecom and we havethe landing page where you can
(19:50):
actually hold your spot rightnow.
Even if there's a group goingon right now, you can still lock
your spot for the next one.
The biggest thing that we'veseen is, as we get closer and
closer to the date,unfortunately, some people end
up missing.
The group fills up and theycan't do it, and then they end
up regretting that.
So please head over to thewebsite.
The link will be in the shownotes and we would love to see
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you there.
Alan Lazaros (20:13):
At the end of the day, these five self state,
story, strategy and system ifthose are in alignment, you will
achieve success.
Now it's just a matter of timeand consistency, and that's the
part that really blows, becauseyou just have to do it for a
really long time, like kev needsto do this for the next 10
weeks maybe we could add a sixths which is what sustained power
(20:38):
yeah now we have the 11 s's oh,baby staying so important.
Did you see my post today?
Kevin Palmieri (20:53):
I have a life outside of this, so, no, I did
not wake up immediately and saywhat did Alan Lazarus post today
?
Alan Lazaros (20:58):
No.
Kevin Palmieri (20:58):
I did Very good.
Alan Lazaros (21:00):
Thank you, brother , and shout out to the team for
that clip.
That was fire.
Kevin Palmieri (21:04):
But I can see you're back to writing novels in
your I'm working on it.
Alan Lazaros (21:09):
Captions I'm working on it.
I'm working on it.
But it breaks down how amazingyou can, the amazing things you
can achieve if you areconsistent over a long period of
time.
So, anyways, if anyone wants tosee that post production team,
can you please link that post inthe show notes?
Kevin Palmieri (21:26):
I will send it to you via WhatsApp now.
Nice, nice, why are these?
We'll get out of here?
I will send it to you viaWhatsApp now.
Nice, nice, why are these?
We'll get out of here?
I've lost track of time.
Just for behind the scenes.
We did yesterday's episode andtoday's episode and we did them
back to back.
So we just we did the firstepisode, just kept the recording
going.
So the timer in the top leftthat tells you how long you've
been recording for isessentially useless, because I
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don't know how long the firstepisode was.
Are these five s's better thanthe other five s's or are they
just different, different?
so the other five s's are, uh,struggle, no sacrifice sacrifice
, struggle, struggle, suffer,suffer, succeed, sustain,
(22:08):
sustain yep, I like those better.
Alan Lazaros (22:10):
We're going to put both in the show notes, both
digital assets of both pairs ofS's in the show notes, and then
Kevin and I are probably goingto end up coming up with a
combination of all of them, andI do like the idea of staying
power.
I think that's really powerful.
So we'll come up with somethingand we'll iterate like we do,
and for now, those digitalassets will be in the show notes
(22:33):
.
Kevin Palmieri (22:33):
It's going to be the 75 S's of success, and then
eventually it'll be the 365 S'sof success, and every day you
can flip the page and there'llbe a new one.
What do you think about that?
Alan Lazaros (22:47):
That's a terrible idea, that what?
Kevin Palmieri (22:51):
do you think about that?
That's a terrible idea.
That's a fucking terrible idea.
Alan Lazaros (22:52):
Well, I can see it Today stool.
Test your stool for the propermarkers.
Kevin Palmieri (22:58):
Are we talking about poop now?
Okay, cool, I didn't expectthat.
I didn't think that was thefirst S you would draw From the
random cards of S.
But stool it is.
Alan Lazaros (23:09):
The 365 S's.
Day 362, have you checked yourstool?
Kevin Palmieri (23:14):
You'd have to get creative.
You'd run out of probablyconstructive ones.
Alan Lazaros (23:19):
How's your sex life?
Kevin Palmieri (23:21):
Sex would be one for sure, yeah.
Alan Lazaros (23:26):
I don't know.
There's no way.
Somatic expression.
Kevin Palmieri (23:28):
That's a good one.
I feel like you're gonna takemy job.
Alan Lazaros (23:33):
I usually name stuff around here well, you only
got a 55 sleep score, so I'lltake it easy on you well, I mean
I'm I don't know, I'm ready, Ithink I'm ready to retire and
kind of kind of sail around theworld.
Kevin Palmieri (23:43):
It's an excellent state 8 years, it's
been a good run.
1974 episodes like why do wehave to get to 2000?
It's close enough, you know,let's call it a day, alright.
What is your wrap up before welet everybody go on a boot their
day?
Alan Lazaros (24:01):
external success is really, really hard to
achieve.
Everyone has these dreams,whether it be a dream car or a
dream body or a dream home, oneclient horsey farm, one client
mansion on the beach, villa inSpain, you name it.
Dreams are not easy to achieve.
(24:21):
They're actually alarminglydifficult to achieve, and while
it does sound really cool to sayeveryone can achieve their
goals and dreams if they settheir mind to it, statistically
that's wildly fucking untrue,and so what I'm trying to say
here is these five S's will helpyou, and if you check in with
them consistently, like I dowith my clients, you're going to
increase your chances of actualsuccess by such a significant
(24:44):
margin.
You can't wing it and win.
You can, you can wing it andwin, but but very, very, very
few people do that, and even ifyou do do that, it's very hard
to sustain something that youdidn't design.
So I'm grateful you're here,I'm grateful you're listening,
and success is a lot harder thanI think people let on.
Kevin Palmieri (25:03):
I would say getting to a result by accident
just increases imposter syndrome, because you know, you don't
know how you did it and it'sjust not a good place to be.
Not a good place to be.
I don't know if I've everreally well, I guess in the past
kind of, but most of the time Iwas unsuccessful.
Alan Lazaros (25:27):
Relationships, though, and fitness kind of
winging it.
Relationships, though andfitness Kind of winging it.
Relationships more.
Kevin Palmieri (25:33):
I was going to say.
I feel like you think I was outhere Jeffing fitness.
I've been tracking caloriessince before.
It was a thing.
Alan Lazaros (25:39):
Yeah, but you never pulled, you never did
muscle building phases.
Kevin Palmieri (25:43):
I didn't need to .
I just wanted to beat abs, justabs, can you?
Alan Lazaros (25:50):
imagine if you did Dude, your old coach would have
told you dude, you've got to doan off-season bulk.
Kevin Palmieri (25:56):
You've got to build this muscle here.
I wanted to be lean all thetime.
It's dumb.
Alan Lazaros (26:01):
It's a dumb idea, terrible idea.
Kevin Palmieri (26:05):
It wasn't great.
It wasn't great, but I was moredialed in than you probably
think I was more dialed in thanyou probably think I was more
dialed in.
Alan Lazaros (26:12):
That assumes you know what I think.
I know you think less.
What if you were exactly?
Kevin Palmieri (26:17):
dialed in as much as I think the statistical,
the statistical probability ofthat is just off the charts
astronomical it's astronomicalat best.
Anything else you'd want to sayto the?
Alan Lazaros (26:29):
people here.
No, what's your wrap up?
Oh, shoot, okay, what's your?
Kevin Palmieri (26:31):
wrap up.
Oh shoot, okay, what is my wrapup?
Having any outline is a reallygood place to start, even if
you're not practicing itperfectly.
It doesn't exist anyway.
It's just a really good placeto start.
Would you rather walk through adark cave with a rope, like you
get to hang on to the rope, orwould you just want to freestyle
(26:53):
it?
I'm willing to bet you'reyou'll be more successful when
you hang on to the rope For somereason.
I've been watching these reallyanxiety provoking people who do
like cave spurlunking and whenI tell you anxiety, I mean
there's barely enough room toget by and they're having the
(27:13):
time of their lives.
These people are builtdifferent, but in a lot of these
caves they have ropes to followup.
There's a reason, because whenyou lose the rope you die.
Now life isn't that serious,but it kind of is.
Alan Lazaros (27:30):
It kind of is.
Kevin Palmieri (27:31):
It's a good metaphor dreams your dreams die,
and it's really hard when youlose the rope.
It can be really hard to getback to it.
So I would much rather the ropebe sustainable.
I'd rather you, let's just cool, start with self.
Awesome, love it.
Start there.
That's something to follow,that's something constructive,
that's something that leads youin a direction that you want to
(27:52):
go.
I think that's a great place.
That's where I started.
I started with self.
I didn't have any of the otherstuff and then eventually, I
figured out on my own and then Ihad the privilege of teaching
millions of people how to dothat.
And here we are Now.
I'm a self-made man.
Self self-made no no I I thinkto to the point of this.
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Sometimes strategy is findingsomeone who knows how to do it
better than you do.
Alan Lazaros (28:21):
Oftentimes that strategy I just want to say
lately I've enjoyed the show alot because we're back.
I think we're talking a lotabout achieving dreams again.
We used to be all about dreamsback in the day, remember we
have there's.
Kevin Palmieri (28:33):
I mean, it's so hard.
I said this to Taron the otherday.
I said you'd think after 2000episodes I'd like know what I
was doing.
I feel like I know less.
I don't know.
It's weird.
It's like I'm too in it now.
Alan Lazaros (28:44):
I don't so yeah, we're talking about dreams again
.
Man, when we first started, wewere big dreamers, you and I.
We were naive as shit.
Kevin Palmieri (28:51):
But we were dreamers.
We're still big dreamers, but Ialso think that now we know
what matters more and whatmatters less, and this
definitely matters.
So, so, so, so, so much, somuch.
I don't want to take away fromthat.
I just didn't.
I don't know if I understoodhow much the internal game
really mattered.
Well, you.
Alan Lazaros (29:11):
I know we got to jump.
You have.
I don't think.
I think people, when they thinkof dreams, they think of
astronaut or no.
I'm talking.
What car do you want to drive?
I'm talking.
What do you want your lifestyleto look like?
I'm talking where do you wantto live?
What kind of home Do you want?
Cathedral ceilings?
Well, I think that's a good.
That's a good.
I mean, whenever I say dreams,it doesn't mean you have to want
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to be an olympic gold medalist.
That can be the case and ifthat is the case, reach out
please.
But I want to eventually coacholympians.
Kevin Palmieri (29:41):
That would be awesome but, you need to do like
a side.
You need to do a side quest andgo get a gold medal in
something archery or somethingthat way you can say you're an
Olympic gold medalist.
Alan Lazaros (29:50):
Sidequest, I want to stick to business coaching.
That's my jam.
Kevin Palmieri (29:55):
I'll give you a gold medal in that.
Alan Lazaros (29:57):
Thank you, you're welcome.
Immediately after I did mymarathon, she took an Oreo box.
Kevin Palmieri (30:01):
I respect that.
I kid you not.
Alan Lazaros (30:02):
She taped yellow tape and she said number one
something and she gave me a goldoreo metal.
It wasn't even circle.
It's brutal, it's awesome.
I have it in my drawer rightover here, man.
Kevin Palmieri (30:14):
Yeah, and I wore it.
Alan Lazaros (30:15):
I wore that shit on my last lap.
I looked like a 90 year old man.
I haven't posted that video.
It's not good.
I think you should I'm not ahuge fan of it.
Kevin Palmieri (30:27):
Well, yeah but like what would you tell someone
listening?
Alan Lazaros (30:30):
it was like a a jaunt, a very painful jaunt at
the end.
But anyways, dreams man dreams Ihad a dream to run 25 miles
without stopping at some point,and I did that, but walking at
the end, I mean barely walking,but it was a dream.
Right, I did a triathlon.
That was a dream.
(30:50):
These right, I did a triathlon.
That was a dream.
These are dreams, they don'thave to be.
I wanted to be a fitness model.
That was a fucking dream.
I did it right.
I wanted to win a fitness show.
I, fucking I did it.
That felt so good to achieve mydreams.
I just think we need dreams and, yeah, we need to be realistic
and honest with ourselves andself-awareness, but you got to
have dreams.
I'm very grateful.
(31:11):
We're talking a lot more aboutthat lately.
Same Same Life without dreamsis not as fulfilling.
Kevin Palmieri (31:19):
It's definitely not as fulfilling, and I don't
think it's as exciting, I don'tthink it's as meaningful, I
think it's easy to.
Anytime I've ever said, likewhat the hell is the point of
all this?
I didn't have dreams and or mycircumstances were terrible.
(31:40):
I'd say that too.
At the beginning of this.
I thought it was all worth it,but it was like what if those
two are connected?
What if?
What two are connected?
Alan Lazaros (31:51):
Not having dreams and having terrible
circumstances I would they'renot you, I was gonna yeah, I was
gonna say I would, that's howI'm willing to die on.
They are not.
They are fucking.
They're not always some of theworst circumstances I've had are
because of this dream son,they're not always connected
they're never yeah, but they'renever yeah, they're never
(32:11):
connected Wanting to start afamily, wanting to get married,
wanting to have pets, wanting tohave a home, wanting to have a
career in a certain industry,like all of those are dreams.
I just think it's important torealize that when we're kids, we
had all these dreams.
You achieved a bunch of yourdreams.
Kevin Palmieri (32:26):
I did.
Alan Lazaros (32:26):
I did.
Kevin Palmieri (32:27):
I think that's a really good thing to talk about
and again we're going to go.
We're just going to keeprunning this on because we like
talking about this.
But dreams are personal andjust because maybe your dream I
think that's the beauty of whatAlan said Maybe your dream is
not to have a horse farm with100 acres in the middle of the
(32:50):
US, somewhere in the lands Cool,that's okay.
Maybe your dream is to have acertain amount of money in the
bank awesome.
Maybe it's to marry someone orhave a great family awesome.
Maybe it's whatever, but it'spersonal to you and don't let
anybody.
I hate when people say like, oh,dream bigger, dream bigger.
(33:17):
I I understand, I think that'sgood to for some people, but
let's start with.
Let's start with recognizingthe fact that you had the
courage to dream in the firstplace.
Let's start with that strongwork for dreaming.
And maybe you are more capablethan you think, but I'm not
going to shit on you for havinga dream in the first place.
Shout out to you.
I respect it.
And again, I think in thebeginning I probably didn't
understand that.
(33:37):
I didn't understand that dreamsare personal and who am I to
tell you that your dream isn'tbig enough.
Who am I?
Who am I to tell you Now if youaccomplish it and it feels
empty and all.
Maybe there's, maybe there'ssomething on the other side of
that, but I think it's important.
Alan Lazaros (33:54):
Dreams are personal yeah, the only thing I
would say is if you don't havedreams, I would check in on that
because I think that dreams aresomething that to look forward
to in the future, that you canbecome more in pursuit of, and I
think that that's what makeslife extra special and it can be
like I said.
I said it can be anything, anynumber of things.
I've had vision boards where Iwrote down a bunch of stuff and
(34:14):
some of them came true.
Some of them I'm like fuck that.
Some of them I'm still goingfor, but I've achieved a lot of
them and I think that's awesome.
I do.
There's no better feeling inthe world than achieving a dream
that was once just in yourimagination 100.
Kevin Palmieri (34:30):
speaking of dreams, let's get out of here so
I can go back to bed and dream.
No, I'm not going back.
We have a meeting after this.
Uh, next little nation, april5th 2025.
Next little live 2025 totallyvirtual.
So we've hosted many in-personevents.
I can say that at this point,we've hosted and or co-hosted
and done most of the work forthe ones that we co-hosted.
(34:51):
And also fairness, this yearwe're going purely virtual.
Six In six events.
That's a good amount of events.
We're going purely virtualbecause we have a global
audience and if you live inEurope or you live in Alaska or
wherever you live, it might notmake financial sense to take a
flight across the world and orcountry for a one-day event.
(35:13):
It's expensive, not supersustainable and not accessible
to most people.
So we're doing it totallyvirtual, from 10 am until 5 pm,
so a full-day event.
Tickets are only $47.
And with that ticket, with thatpurchase, you get access to the
replay.
It's going to be awesome.
You get access to the replay.
It's going to be awesome, alanand I having the time of our
lives.
Amy's going to be there, amy'sflying in.
So, yeah, we want it to be areally positive event for you.
(35:37):
There's going to be breakoutsessions.
You're going to meet otherpeople.
I can't imagine it wouldn't bea really transformational day.
And 47 bucks.
I know times are rough rightnow.
Money's tight, things areexpensive AF.
We didn't want this event to beexpensive AF, because we want
you to be able to come andtransform with us, so we'll have
the link in the show notes forit.
Alan Lazaros (35:57):
People don't pay the price unless the promise is
clear, kevin and I promise it'llbe worth the money.
It's not 47 bucks because it'sless valuable.
It's 47 bucks so that it'saffordable, so that we can
provide value to more people.
Speaking of dreams if you'reout there and you feel alone in
(36:19):
pursuit of your dreams, I had aclient reach out to me this
morning and talk about how muchshe's struggling because every
time she goes out with friends,she feels like they're trying to
convince her to live like theydo and she can't not with her
dreams.
She's not gonna convince her tolive like they do and she can't
Not with her dreams.
She's not going to be able tolive like they do Bar hopping
and she feels alone.
If you feel alone in pursuit ofyour dreams, reach out.
I can promise you this.
(36:40):
I will increase the probabilitythat you achieve your goals and
dreams.
I can't promise it'll be easy.
I can't promise it'll all befun it definitely fucking won't
but I can promise you will havea higher chance of achieving
your dreams.
It's a good way to put it.
Thanks man.
Kevin Palmieri (36:57):
No, you're welcome.
No, no joke.
I know you're waiting for me todrop something, that's it.
That was it.
Just a compliment, notbackhanded, just a regular
compliment.
Alan Lazaros (37:07):
Fronthanded compliment.
I was going to say fronthanded.
Kevin Palmieri (37:09):
Well, that's not good either.
All right, cool, as always.
We love you, we appreciate you,we are grateful, grateful,
grateful for each and every oneof you at NLU.
We don't have fans, we havefamily.
We will talk to you alltomorrow, keep it Next Level,
Next Level Nation.
Thanks for joining us foranother episode of Next Level
University.
We love connecting with theNext.
Alan Lazaros (37:30):
Level family.
We mean it when we say family.
If you ever need anything,please reach out to us directly.
Everything you need to get ahold of us is in the show notes.
Kevin Palmieri (37:40):
Thank, you again and we will talk to you
tomorrow.
Thank you.
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