November 4, 2024 • 9 mins
Ben DuBose, editor of The Rockets Wire, joins Next Up to recap the Houston Rockets losing 127-121 in overtime against the Golden State Warriors but also preview the New York Knicks coming to town Monday.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Rockets. I thought they had it on Saturday night. They
took it to overtime down thirty one versus the Golden
State Warriors without Klay Thompson. Still looks weird, but they
found a way to rally to help us success. Where
the Rockets are back in action tonight, out the Rockets,
some weird ass. Start time seven forty five at the
(00:20):
Toyota Center tonight. I don't know what the Semn forty
five local time is. Nonetheless, here the Knicks Jalen Bryn
saying who they have now, They've got Karl Anthony Towns.
Of course, the Rockets, led by Jalen Green to assist
us with previewing not only tonight's matchup, but recapping what
we may have missed over the weekend. Ben Dubo's Rockets
(00:40):
analysts for us here at seven ninety, editor of USA
Today's Rockets Wire, and a contributor to the Logger Line
podcast here on Sports seven ninety dot com. Being good
morning to you, hope you will rest. The brother headed
over to a seven forty five tip Nix in town.
Let's start there. Oh you know what, Let's not start there.
I'll come back to that. Over the weekend, I mentioned
(01:01):
the Golden State down thirty one, how'd they get back
into it?
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Korea Night Foratari, Yeah, Tarry Ethan was a big story.
His energy just almost single handedly got the Rockets back
in that game in the second half, especially when you
pair him with a Vin Thompson. That duo gets some
turnovers that you wouldn't believe. At times, it looked like
a high school game the way they would just press
the Warriors at half court, and it felt like one
(01:27):
turnover return into two, two turned into three, and that
thing snowballs. Unfortunately, the reason why you don't see too
many thirty plus point comeback what often happens is that
even if you do climb the mountain and get all
the way back, you use up so much energy in
doing so that at some point you run out of gas.
And that's what happened in overtime. They use so much
energy to come back from down thirty one that by
(01:48):
the time they sort of caught their breath that three
through and a halfened to break. Between the fourth quarter
and overtime, they just never looked right in ot They
shot just one to twelve, and it felt like they
had to use up all their legs to get in
the game. So kudos to Tory Eathan and men Thompson
both played fabulous off the bench got the Rockets back
in it. But uh yeah, you can't start down thirty
(02:09):
against a good team and expect to win the game.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
Yeah, that's it's so weird. I mean, we we've become
conditioned to know the Golden State Warriors. Oh, if they
don't have Steph and they don't have Clay and they
don't have this guy, they're not any good. And it's
like Steve Currs pretty damn good coach. They just I
don't know, if they just win it sucks Buddy Heal
and just start scoring.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Yeah, And I will say that Buddy hel feels like
having Klay Thompson Again. I may Udoka made that comparison
before the game, and I think he's spot on. So
even if they don't have Clay and name, it feels
like when you see Buddy Hill go out there and
drop in six or seven threes whatever it was. And
I think the Warriors started nine of eleven from three.
I really think the Rockets aren't that concerned about the
(02:49):
defensive end. I'm sure Udoka in the film room will
point out that, yeah, they had lasses in rotation, their
effort could be better, but look, you shouldn't shoot nine
of eleven on three that shoot around, and they did
it to start that game. So in terms of how
they fell down by thirty plus points, I think the
defense you just sort of have to tip your cap
to the Warriors and bide your time until they eventually
missed some shots, which they did in the second half.
(03:10):
Better energy from Tarry Easton than than Thompson certainly contributed
to that. I think the bigger story is offensively, guys
like Alper and Shangoon Fred than Fleet have not got
going yet this season. That's where I think the Rockets
really got off to a bad start on Saturday, down
seventy one to forty three and a half. And that's
what they got to try and fix as they get
ready for a good next team tonight.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
Yeah, I'm looking at this thing, gentlemen. Seven points from
Dylan Brooks and seven points from Jalen Green to starters
on Saturday night. You mentioned the legs probably not being
there to finish that thing. So here the Rockets are
three and three on the season, one and two at home.
They're obviously in the Toyota Center and here it comes
(03:52):
the Knicks. I'm just noticing. Wow, I didn't realize Buddy
Hills twenty seven was off the bench. I didn't realize
that in real time. Crazy and then sor right off
the ban at twenty seven pm. All right, mix in
town tonight. I mentioned you know who headlines for them? Well,
what can you say? What's going on with this funky time?
This start time seven forty five?
Speaker 2 (04:12):
What is that? Yeah? So the NBA has all thirty
of its teams playing tonight because they're all off tomorrow
for Election Day, and then everybody's in action. It's sort
of experimenting. We know the NBA likes to try anything.
This year. It's the second year of the Cup. These
are not Cup games, but along the same lines of
I guess experimentation. What they're doing is starting every game
(04:34):
from six in the nine or six to nine thirty,
exactly fifteen minutes apart. So like one game starts at six,
another at six fifteen, another at six thirty, and the
idea being that, yeah, with every team in action, then
teams can you know that fans can sort of flip
around an NBA League pass and see all these games
that they get to a finish at different times, so
(04:54):
they're just sort of trying to see what happens if
they baggers, right exactly, that's right, that's the idea. Who
knows if it will work. But I see why Adam
Silver is, you know, juicid as a worthwhile attempt. We look.
The one thing I'll say about the Knicks, this is
the opportunity for the Rockets to really get all for
Chhangoon going. They don't have Mitchell Robinson. They start pro
(05:17):
Anthony Talons who can put up points, but no one
looks a cat at the dynamic defender, and so this
is the ideal spot in my opinion, to get him going.
He's shooting below forty percent from the year. That's not
good enough. We've seen late in close games, including Saturday
against the Warriors, the Rockets aren't playing all for in
Chon Gouon in winning time. He did not play a
single minute in the fourth quarter or overtime on Saturday,
(05:39):
and I think the reason for that is Imo Udoka.
He sees these Jabari at the five, Tari at the
four lineups, Jabari Smith providing defense, better four facing more versatility.
There are advantages on the defensive side of the court.
It's just when all for Choon Goon is right, he
provides enough offensively to counter that. Well, when he's shooting
(06:01):
below forty percent from the field, he's not giving you
what he typically does offensively. Then all of a sudden
you have to look at the other end of the
court and say, look, we're probably better off going for
more defense, more athleticism, more force facing, which is what
they do with those front court lineups of Jabari Smith
as the five and Tari Eathen at the four. So
at some point you've got to get all for Esion
(06:22):
Goon going. I think it's a very delicate sort of
balancing act for ima Udoka in that you want to
reward the guys who are playing well, and on Saturday
that was clearly Jabari and Tari. However, should Goon is
really important to the long term formula of this team.
There's a reason you're paying him almost a max contract,
and so you want to play who deserves to play.
(06:42):
But you also need to make sure that Shoe Gooon's
leash isn't so short that he doesn't have an opportunity
to get himself going. He needs to get shot, attempts,
to get in rhythm, see the ball go through the rim.
Because if he starts shooting, you know, close to fifty
five percent the way he did last year and audition out
five six assists per game, then all of a sudden,
he's going to be in those closing lineups. And that's
what they need because you know, Jalen Greens started off
(07:04):
that year hot. But as you would expect, teams are
starting to, you know, defend him with more resources. You're
seeing more blitzes, you're seeing more double teams. We saw
it even in the win against Dallas. We saw it
certainly early in the Warriors game. So the Rocket's got
to have somebody other than Jalen step up. Your two
best offensive players last year were all Friend Schangoon and
President Fleet. Shingun is shooting below forty percent Fred below
(07:26):
thirty percent. So if I get one of those guys
going at least and I think Shininggoon against Karl Anthony talents,
to me, this is a good spot to really emphasize
getting him going for the first time this season.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
All right, Ben Dubo's analysts here for us at seven ninety.
When it comes to rockets. I'll get you high on
this one. I peek in every so often on exactly
what Reeve Shepherd is doing just over eight minutes a
game in two and a half points, what's going on
with Shepard out of Kentucky, the rookie third Overall, a
lot of us were excited and like less than thirty seconds.
(07:58):
Is this the plan? Or is he not developing and
earning minutes at the rate that we thought he might.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
It's just tough to play ten guys, and I think
he may said going into the year that that would
be the challenge for him, and so somebody's going to
get the short end of the stake, depending on who's hot,
who's cold. Cam had a couple of good games, Cam
whitmore early in the year. I do think that the
longer Fred than Lead struggles, the more they're going to
have to look at Reed Shepherd because of that shooting stability.
(08:27):
I don't think six games is the point at which
Supanic can say Fred's not the guy, he's too old.
These out thirty blah blah blah. But if this continues
for two or three more weeks, then I don't see
how Reed doesn't get more opportunities with Fred continuing to
shoot below thirty percent from the field. Should that continue?
Speaker 1 (08:43):
All right? That's been Dubo's editor of USA Today's The
Rockets Why are also featured on the logger Line podcast
Talking Rockets here on seven ninety follow him at being
Dubo's du BSc. Thank you for your time and being
flexib before. It's being really appreciated.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Brother sons good, thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
All right, man, enjoy yourself over at the TC tonight again.
Seven forty five Tip Nicks in Town versus The Rockets
Rockets. I thought they had it on Saturday night. They
took it to overtime down thirty one versus the Golden
State Warriors without Klay Thompson. Still looks weird, but they
found a way to rally to help us success. Where
the Rockets are back in action tonight, out the Rockets,
some weird ass. Start time seven forty five at the
(00:20):
Toyota Center tonight. I don't know what the Semn forty
five local time is. Nonetheless, here the Knicks Jalen Bryn
saying who they have now, They've got Karl Anthony Towns.
Of course, the Rockets, led by Jalen Green to assist
us with previewing not only tonight's matchup, but recapping what
we may have missed over the weekend. Ben Dubo's Rockets
(00:40):
analysts for us here at seven ninety, editor of USA
Today's Rockets Wire, and a contributor to the Logger Line
podcast here on Sports seven ninety dot com. Being good
morning to you, hope you will rest. The brother headed
over to a seven forty five tip Nix in town.
Let's start there. Oh you know what, Let's not start there.
I'll come back to that. Over the weekend, I mentioned
(01:01):
the Golden State down thirty one, how'd they get back
into it?
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Korea Night Foratari, Yeah, Tarry Ethan was a big story.
His energy just almost single handedly got the Rockets back
in that game in the second half, especially when you
pair him with a Vin Thompson. That duo gets some
turnovers that you wouldn't believe. At times, it looked like
a high school game the way they would just press
the Warriors at half court, and it felt like one
(01:27):
turnover return into two, two turned into three, and that
thing snowballs. Unfortunately, the reason why you don't see too
many thirty plus point comeback what often happens is that
even if you do climb the mountain and get all
the way back, you use up so much energy in
doing so that at some point you run out of gas.
And that's what happened in overtime. They use so much
energy to come back from down thirty one that by
(01:48):
the time they sort of caught their breath that three
through and a halfened to break. Between the fourth quarter
and overtime, they just never looked right in ot They
shot just one to twelve, and it felt like they
had to use up all their legs to get in
the game. So kudos to Tory Eathan and men Thompson
both played fabulous off the bench got the Rockets back
in it. But uh yeah, you can't start down thirty
(02:09):
against a good team and expect to win the game.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
Yeah, that's it's so weird. I mean, we we've become
conditioned to know the Golden State Warriors. Oh, if they
don't have Steph and they don't have Clay and they
don't have this guy, they're not any good. And it's
like Steve Currs pretty damn good coach. They just I
don't know, if they just win it sucks Buddy Heal
and just start scoring.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Yeah, And I will say that Buddy hel feels like
having Klay Thompson Again. I may Udoka made that comparison
before the game, and I think he's spot on. So
even if they don't have Clay and name, it feels
like when you see Buddy Hill go out there and
drop in six or seven threes whatever it was. And
I think the Warriors started nine of eleven from three.
I really think the Rockets aren't that concerned about the
(02:49):
defensive end. I'm sure Udoka in the film room will
point out that, yeah, they had lasses in rotation, their
effort could be better, but look, you shouldn't shoot nine
of eleven on three that shoot around, and they did
it to start that game. So in terms of how
they fell down by thirty plus points, I think the
defense you just sort of have to tip your cap
to the Warriors and bide your time until they eventually
missed some shots, which they did in the second half.
(03:10):
Better energy from Tarry Easton than than Thompson certainly contributed
to that. I think the bigger story is offensively, guys
like Alper and Shangoon Fred than Fleet have not got
going yet this season. That's where I think the Rockets
really got off to a bad start on Saturday, down
seventy one to forty three and a half. And that's
what they got to try and fix as they get
ready for a good next team tonight.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
Yeah, I'm looking at this thing, gentlemen. Seven points from
Dylan Brooks and seven points from Jalen Green to starters
on Saturday night. You mentioned the legs probably not being
there to finish that thing. So here the Rockets are
three and three on the season, one and two at home.
They're obviously in the Toyota Center and here it comes
(03:52):
the Knicks. I'm just noticing. Wow, I didn't realize Buddy
Hills twenty seven was off the bench. I didn't realize
that in real time. Crazy and then sor right off
the ban at twenty seven pm. All right, mix in
town tonight. I mentioned you know who headlines for them? Well,
what can you say? What's going on with this funky time?
This start time seven forty five?
Speaker 2 (04:12):
What is that? Yeah? So the NBA has all thirty
of its teams playing tonight because they're all off tomorrow
for Election Day, and then everybody's in action. It's sort
of experimenting. We know the NBA likes to try anything.
This year. It's the second year of the Cup. These
are not Cup games, but along the same lines of
I guess experimentation. What they're doing is starting every game
(04:34):
from six in the nine or six to nine thirty,
exactly fifteen minutes apart. So like one game starts at six,
another at six fifteen, another at six thirty, and the
idea being that, yeah, with every team in action, then
teams can you know that fans can sort of flip
around an NBA League pass and see all these games
that they get to a finish at different times, so
(04:54):
they're just sort of trying to see what happens if
they baggers, right exactly, that's right, that's the idea. Who
knows if it will work. But I see why Adam
Silver is, you know, juicid as a worthwhile attempt. We look.
The one thing I'll say about the Knicks, this is
the opportunity for the Rockets to really get all for
Chhangoon going. They don't have Mitchell Robinson. They start pro
(05:17):
Anthony Talons who can put up points, but no one
looks a cat at the dynamic defender, and so this
is the ideal spot in my opinion, to get him going.
He's shooting below forty percent from the year. That's not
good enough. We've seen late in close games, including Saturday
against the Warriors, the Rockets aren't playing all for in
Chon Gouon in winning time. He did not play a
single minute in the fourth quarter or overtime on Saturday,
(05:39):
and I think the reason for that is Imo Udoka.
He sees these Jabari at the five, Tari at the
four lineups, Jabari Smith providing defense, better four facing more versatility.
There are advantages on the defensive side of the court.
It's just when all for Choon Goon is right, he
provides enough offensively to counter that. Well, when he's shooting
(06:01):
below forty percent from the field, he's not giving you
what he typically does offensively. Then all of a sudden
you have to look at the other end of the
court and say, look, we're probably better off going for
more defense, more athleticism, more force facing, which is what
they do with those front court lineups of Jabari Smith
as the five and Tari Eathen at the four. So
at some point you've got to get all for Esion
(06:22):
Goon going. I think it's a very delicate sort of
balancing act for ima Udoka in that you want to
reward the guys who are playing well, and on Saturday
that was clearly Jabari and Tari. However, should Goon is
really important to the long term formula of this team.
There's a reason you're paying him almost a max contract,
and so you want to play who deserves to play.
(06:42):
But you also need to make sure that Shoe Gooon's
leash isn't so short that he doesn't have an opportunity
to get himself going. He needs to get shot, attempts,
to get in rhythm, see the ball go through the rim.
Because if he starts shooting, you know, close to fifty
five percent the way he did last year and audition out
five six assists per game, then all of a sudden,
he's going to be in those closing lineups. And that's
what they need because you know, Jalen Greens started off
(07:04):
that year hot. But as you would expect, teams are
starting to, you know, defend him with more resources. You're
seeing more blitzes, you're seeing more double teams. We saw
it even in the win against Dallas. We saw it
certainly early in the Warriors game. So the Rocket's got
to have somebody other than Jalen step up. Your two
best offensive players last year were all Friend Schangoon and
President Fleet. Shingun is shooting below forty percent Fred below
(07:26):
thirty percent. So if I get one of those guys
going at least and I think Shininggoon against Karl Anthony talents,
to me, this is a good spot to really emphasize
getting him going for the first time this season.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
All right, Ben Dubo's analysts here for us at seven ninety.
When it comes to rockets. I'll get you high on
this one. I peek in every so often on exactly
what Reeve Shepherd is doing just over eight minutes a
game in two and a half points, what's going on
with Shepard out of Kentucky, the rookie third Overall, a
lot of us were excited and like less than thirty seconds.
(07:58):
Is this the plan? Or is he not developing and
earning minutes at the rate that we thought he might.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
It's just tough to play ten guys, and I think
he may said going into the year that that would
be the challenge for him, and so somebody's going to
get the short end of the stake, depending on who's hot,
who's cold. Cam had a couple of good games, Cam
whitmore early in the year. I do think that the
longer Fred than Lead struggles, the more they're going to
have to look at Reed Shepherd because of that shooting stability.
(08:27):
I don't think six games is the point at which
Supanic can say Fred's not the guy, he's too old.
These out thirty blah blah blah. But if this continues
for two or three more weeks, then I don't see
how Reed doesn't get more opportunities with Fred continuing to
shoot below thirty percent from the field. Should that continue?
Speaker 1 (08:43):
All right? That's been Dubo's editor of USA Today's The
Rockets Why are also featured on the logger Line podcast
Talking Rockets here on seven ninety follow him at being
Dubo's du BSc. Thank you for your time and being
flexib before. It's being really appreciated.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Brother sons good, thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
All right, man, enjoy yourself over at the TC tonight again.
Seven forty five Tip Nicks in Town versus The Rockets
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