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NBA Finals Game one commences tonight.Had to hauler at my man of NBA
TV, Brendan Haywood. And withthat being said, let's go to the
guest line. Now, get afriend of the station, friend of the
show. My guy represent the TarHills and the ACC. Gordy. I
know you're a secer, but you'regonna have to chill out. A champion.
An NBA champion joins us. Now, my brother, Brendan Haywood,
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formerly twentieth overall pick in the twothousand and one NBA Draft. A champion
the last time the Mavericks hoisted thatthing in twenty eleven. He happens to
do great work covering the entire league, including our Houston Rockets. Courtesy of
NBA TV. B Wood. Goodmorning to you, man, how you
feeling? Finals are here? Feelinggood? Feeling good? My man's back
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in the finals. It's a goodtime, good time to be a lot
all right. Don't get me hurtby my Houstonians. Gordy teach me all
the time. They don't like myaffiliations with DFW. Well, let's just
start there. I mean, obviously, you gotta be happy for ja kid.
The second time in NBA Finals history, you have two African American coaches,
coaches facing off against one another kidtrying to get one as a coach
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as well as a player. Justdo as you guys have been talking organizationally.
What does this meaning for the Mavericksfamily and the m f F Lers.
Well, I think it just basicallymeans that Jack and Kidd has been
doing a great job. Nico Harrisonhas been doing a great job as well
building that team, and U J. Kidd is underrated in this league as
a head coach. He's finally startingto get his just due and if you've
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been watching the playoffs, his gameplans offensively and defensively have been exquisite.
It's interesting, Brendan, as welook at the you know, I was
looking back at some of those,uh, you know, box scores from
the last time the Mavericks are here, and obviously Dirk was the headliner,
and you know, he was thecatalyst and all that, but I remember,
you know, there were times itwas it was Kid and and JJ
Burray in the in the same backcourt. It's just funny because how the league
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has changed where you know it usedto be. You can't have to two
guys who are you know, primarilypoint guards in the same backcourt, and
yet here you go, here youare with uh Luca and Kyrie. Who
cares who's the point? Who's thetwo? I mean, it doesn't even
matter, you know anymore this dayand age of the NBA. Are you
surprised, like where the nbas ofall were really is positionless basketball now,
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I'm not surprised at all. Startedwith the Golden State Warriors blew up all
the preconceived early two thousands of latenineties myths that we had about basketball,
and once they took over the league, that was about the league catching up
and adapting and adaptabilities and disability.The league is adapting. You can have
two ball handlers, you can havea bunch of six sixty nine guys with
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switching perimeter skills. And there's alsodifferent ways to win. You can win
with the dominant big like Denver didlast year. You can win with a
dominant backcourt like what the Mavericks haveright now. So I'm not surprised at
all. The league is evolving andsmart gms. They're basically adapting to what
they can get their hands on andhow they can build their teams talk from
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Brendan Haywood, NBA analysts for NBATV, former champion with the Dallas Mavericks.
Here on next up with Northfleet andGordon God. I can appreciate,
first of all, let's just keepit a buck, you know, I
mean, I was gonna try andpolish it be what we got to keep
it a buck. Yet, thereare a lot of people domestically in this
country that have an issue with howthe Euros and the foreigners have come in.
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From an NBA and a global basketballperspective, I'm speaking more to in
this particular series, Luka Doncic.I think he's the best player on both
teams, all respect to Tatum BrownDrew Holliday more from a defensive standpoint than
others. But when Luca is doingunprecedented things or things that very few have
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done, leading the playoffs and points, rebounds, assists, his percentages,
how good is Luka Don't is incompared to a euro from yesteryear like a
dirt Nowinsky. Well, like Isaid, the game has continued to evolve,
and so because the game is evolving, the players coming in are getting
better. So back in the day, you know you have a Dirk was
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considered a unicorn because he could shootthe ball and not play traditional inside basketball
like post players did at that point. Well, now it's different. A
guy like Luca at six' eightcan basically be your point guard and he
can post up as me b.But he could be out on the perimeter
and he has a mid range game, and his game is way different than
Dirk, and his skills are incredible, and I agree with you. I
think he is the best player inthe series. I think he's one of
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the top five basketball players in theworld right now, and that he's a
major reason why the Mavericks are doingwhat they're doing. It is interesting,
though, the parallel there, andhe and Dirk and Luca are two very
different players, yet there's that intangiblenessof like, he's just the leader,
he's the guy, And do yousee are there any parallels there from Dirk
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to what Luca's doing with this teamright now? Their games are completely different,
but like you hit it on thehead, the similarity is the mentality,
Hey, I'm the guy, getme the ball in those moments,
I'm not scared. If you lookat some of those biggest when the MAVs
went on that run in twenty eleven, whether it was against OKC being guarded
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by Athletics surge of Baka, Dirkwon that rock, give me the ball,
that dude, his mentality was thatdude can't guard me. Whether it
was playing against the Miami Heat.I remember before that series he said,
man, they didn't He said thisin the locker room, and he really
meant it. He said, man, they didn't really want no big three.
I said, what you mean,he said, because if they did,
they would have came and got me. Oh he And that's how he
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really felt that. He wasn't goingto say that to the media because he
wasn't going to start all the smoke. He didn't want to disrespect Chris Bosh,
but he really felt like, yo, like if I was because he
was a free agent that year too, if they really wanted the big three,
they was team and got this guy. And he went out there and
I proved that. And if youwatch Luca, Luca believed the same thing.
That's why he's hitting shots and he'stelling the defensive player of the Year,
you can't you know what with me? Oh listen, That's why he
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told me. That's why he's hittingshots and he's looking at the crowd.
I had a chance to do theMAVs training camp last year and I asked
Jay Kidd, I said, Man, what do you like about Luca the
most? He said, Man,no fear, just like he call he
calls he calls dirt dirty, justlike dirty. Wow, he said,
Man, he said, I candrop Luca off in the hood and he'll
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come back to Shane and Violet everythingelse, some fresh on, some pandas
or something. Now you know,you dropped some of these NBA players off
in the hood, they'll come back. But Nick, I'm one, I'm
one up. They would have droppedme off in the hood. I got
stripped down. I'm just saying thatis that is why he likes That's why
he loves dirt, and that's whyhe loves Luca. And that's the similarity
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that they have. It's a mindsetof I'm not scareding none of y'all.
That's the voice of my man.Brendan Haywood, former champion with the Mavericks,
longtime NBA are also had stops inWashington, Charlotte, and Cleveland.
Brother knows the NBA not doing agreat job there on the screen just a
couple more and we'll get you outof here. Let's pivot, shall we,
Because you brought up something the dynamicthat plagued both of these organizations,
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and I'm gonna call them the fourstars, respectively associaliated with the two teams,
how Luca and Kyrie have been ableto work through their challenges and closing
time and how that works in termsof who's the man and the same thing
can be said. Many many thoughtthat the Celtics would get blown up.
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I was one of them. Idid not think that Brown and Tatum worked
together based on what we saw goingback to the finals versus Golden State.
Here they are philosophically, how havethey been able to make it work in
their respective cities? And then howdo you think this dynamic plays out over
the course of a final series.They both made it work different ways.
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So with the Celtics, they've madeit work because they've added other players in
that give those guys space. Tatumand Brown are our scores, they're not
playmakers their scores. So you bringin a for Zingis, that's more space
you bring in, or Drew Holliday, that's a great two way player that
still gives you space and you can'tget this guy shot. Derick White has
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matured two with one of the besttwo way players in the league, and
so that roster has kind of morphedinto this incredible roster. That's why they
have the best team in the leagueas far as record wise, and that
gives those two guys the spacing thatthey need to be dominant players. On
the flip side, the Mavericks,you have two incredible wizards with the ball,
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and both of those guys can canflip the switch between playmaker and score.
And that's why Luca can be theguy that's the master of the pick
and roll, and he might nothave a stretch five, but he doesn't
need one because he can go inthe playmaker mode and get everybody involved.
And that's the difference between the two. The Mavericks have playmakers, Boston has
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scores. In this type of seriesadvantage playmakers. That's why I like the
math, And my main reason whyI like the math outside of that is
I think that if I know JKidd like I know J Kids, He's
going to try to attack Prizingis andAl Horford the same way he attacked Rudy
Gobert. Pazingis can only run dropcoverage. Stay, what does Luca and
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Kyrie eat up? Oh you can'tget them boy space. They knocking that
down exactly. Well, well,Pazinkas can't Prezingas can't switch, he can't
move laterally, right, they're goingto They're going to target for Zingis in
the middle of the floor. Thisguy's not going to be at peak conditioning
because he hasn't been playing. They'regoing to target him. And lord,
if it is our Horford. Ilove Al Horford, but he is one
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hundred and seventy five years old.And if he goes out there and tries
to go out those guys in thepick and rolls, they switch and either
mine it is going to be barbecuechicken. So I don't think that Boston
has the big man versatility to slowdown Dallas, and I think that is
what's going to be there Achilles hellin this series. I think it's gonna
be a very good series. ButI got Dallas, yeah we're talking about
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Yeah, I got Dallason sick.Yet we're talking about Brendan Haywood here and
Brendan you know, Joe Mizzoula hasbeen doing a nice job with the Celtics.
But the guy who was there beforehim is now our guy, Ima
Adoka here in Houston. And obviouslythey took a big step forward in last
year and year one under e May. All the eighteen and nineteen year olds
were told, hey, no moreShenanigans. We got a real coach in
town and we're gonna get this thingback on track. Here they came,
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you know, just a couple ofgames from making the play in game,
and everybody expects them to take anotherstep forward this year and be a playoff
team. But you know the fortuitousnessof owning those Brooklyn picks. They get
the number three pick in this year'sdraft, albeit it's a year that maybe
isn't the best year to be pickingthree. But what do you think they
should do? Is there are alot of rumblings of maybe training out of
that pick. You know, istalk of the Kentucky kid who's you know,
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a really good shooter, Re Shepherd. Maybe you take him at three
because they could use some bench scoring. What would you take me through your
thought process? What would you dowith that three pick? If you're the
Rockets, Well, the first thingI would do is I would call up
Brooklyn and ask them do they wantthey pick back can turn that picking to
Michel Bridges. I think that wouldhelp your guys rosteride a lot. So
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we're talking about Michel Bridges or maybeeven calling Portland for Jeremy Grant. I'm
calling the Bulls for Zach Lavine,any any type of guy like that that's
already kind of established. Because thisteam has a bunch of young talents,
you can't keep developing young guys ontop of young guys because they're gonna step
on each other's seat. And so, like I would, that would be
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my first move. Michel Bridges wouldbe the crown jewel. That would be
what I would try to do.If I was Houston, I would try
to get Michel Bridges if I couldn'ttrade out and I had to stay in
the draft. Like I said,I like to pick a Reeed Shepherd.
I think that he can come offthe bench, give you pop. He
had to come off the bench lastyear in college. He thrived in that
role. He can shoot the leatheroff the rock. So that also,
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and this league is all about pacingspace. If you have guys that can
come out there and create spacing withthat jumper. It's gonna be better for
you. So that's the way Iwould go. But number one, I
try to hey, listen, Itry to get micail Bridge up like Brooklyn
you Shore, you want to pickback and that is for you. You
need it, oh and real quicklyin that when we don't hear reed Shepherd.
The other name that has come upis is it clinging the big man
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out of Yukon? What do youthink about his game and the modern NBA
big? You were a big andare a big in yourself in terms of
what you did on the floor there. How does he translate to what today
you just talked about? You know, go Bear and then Cat and those
guys al Horf and and others.You like that selection if they stay at
three of the Houston Rockets, Yeah, I like that selection. I think
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he would. He gives you adifferent type of big than you have in
some goon. He can come offthe bench and help you. It's just
we understand. The reason I didn'toriginally go with him is because we understand
how important to going into that offense, how many minute he's gonna play.
And when you pick a guy numberthree, that's gonna still need to develop.
It's not gonna be a lot oftime, you know, And so
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I just I like to pick,and I think he could definitely help you,
and he can bring you shot blockingthat rent protection. He can finish
well. I like the fellaside,So I think that he could definitely help
the Houston Rockets. But my firstthing would be to try to trade that
pick or cling wouldn't be a badpick either. I think he could survive
into Symba for sure. That isthe voice of our guy. Brendan Haywood,
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fourteen year NBA VET champion with theDallas Mavericks back in eleven. We
appreciate him dropping by with Gordian Fleet. You can catch his work on NBA
TV. I'm sure he'll be onsocial as well at b as in the
letter would underscore thirty three what weappreciate it. Brother, thanks so much
making some time for us. Enjoythe finals tonight and the rest of the
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series. Thank you for having me. All Right, y'all be well.