Jets Ruin Texans Halloween, Stroud Gets Sacked A Lot, What Can Be Done With This O-line?

Stan Norfleet and Chris Gordy of Next Up react to the New York Jets dominating the Texans in the second half of Thursday Night Football to hand Houston their third loss of the season. C.J. Stroud was sacked eight times and completed a career-worst 37% of his passes for 191 yards with no touchdowns or interceptions in the 21-13 defeat. Stan and Chris discuss the issues on the offensive line, Bobby Slowik's disappointing playcalling, and more.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:02):
Now what's next? Next stop?

Speaker 2 (00:04):
It's the next stop, the next step, take the next step.

Speaker 3 (00:08):
Next up stop, next next stop?

Speaker 1 (00:12):
This want to be next?

Speaker 4 (00:15):
This is next st up with Tad Norfleeten Chris Gordy.

Speaker 5 (00:19):
Let's see what's next next next, Here.

Speaker 1 (00:23):
We go, let's get ready.

Speaker 6 (00:25):
Rock lying from the Sports Talk seven ninety studios nestled
in between Uptown Park, excuse me and river Oaks for
the next two hours. Stay in fleet Me, Chris Gordy him,
there's Connedy McGovern on the other side of the glass.
Appreciate my guys. Normally we would say feeling good, feeling great.
I am certainly blessed to be here. Thank the Good
Lord for giving us a generous portion of health and stream,

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and I'm gonna need a whole bunch of it to
keep from chewing the absolute ass of some folks over
at NRG. What the hell was that? It's exactly what
I told you it be. We'll get more into why
I felt that way yesterday and why that has now
been confirmed thanks to the Shawn Salisbury Show. Each and

(01:08):
every weekday morning six to ten am, we get up,
we hang out with the guys, We have a good time.

Speaker 1 (01:13):
We learn a lot as well.

Speaker 6 (01:15):
Shawn Salisbury, our resident quarterback, Li Lima, was out today.
Y'all heard Dan Matthews and of course the manual representing
Prayer view A and m all right, fellas, let's trap
in a lot of Texans talk today. My notebook is full.
I've been up all night reading tweets, responding to the
people on social looking at articles.

Speaker 1 (01:36):
A couple podcasts are out and.

Speaker 6 (01:41):
If you are, if your fandom won't allow you to
hear logic and reason, then you're probably not gonna enjoy
today's show. If you're new to the station, new to
the show, welcome. We appreciate you coming back. And even
you two haters that are going to nitpick at some

(02:01):
of the things I'm going to say and try and
twist them to meet whatever your moniacal agenda.

Speaker 1 (02:08):
Czar, that's fine.

Speaker 6 (02:10):
Do what you do. At least you're listening. That does
good for our ratings. G Man, Texas got on a
plane on Wednesday. They played a game last night Halloween
Hope all the kids and everything was cool. We had
a quite pleasurable experience. Monica, baby k and myself we
hung out a little bit. Gordon. Then I watched what

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had the appearance early of being a football game, and
I don't know, around the early second quarter, give a tape,
it turned into and most certainly in the second hand,
it turned into a damn debacle. I'm gonna say this
and I'm gonna come to youg man, and this is

(02:53):
where I start. I told you yesterday when we did
our predictions, I thought the Jets would win twenty four
to twenty. I'm sorry, I said twenty two to twenty.
The Jets did win. I told you yesterday. I was concerned,
and all of the reasons I was concerned played out,
starting with protection issues. Oh, Aaron Rodgers is washed up?

Speaker 1 (03:14):
Is he?

Speaker 7 (03:15):
Oh?

Speaker 6 (03:15):
The wide receivers played the week before first New England
and they didn't really do a whole lot. How about
Davontae Adams and Garrett Wilson last night? Oh, the defense,
even though they were out CJ. Moseley and the two safeties.
I'm talking about the defense of the Jets. Oh, give
the ball to Joe Mixon. That was the only shot.
The shot you had until you get down in the
red area and do some dumb ass. I'm gonna try

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and do a lineup in the wildcat and throw a
past the CEJ. I got a lot of ass to
you today, but We're going to be logical and I'm
going to have data to support what we all saw. Gordon,
were you surprised now you picked the Texans to win?

Speaker 8 (03:56):
Yeah, and said, I think we said yesterday first one
that tore points would win this and the team that
got to twenty one at the team that didn't lost.
So you know, I think this was sloppy. I mean
the second drive, your second drive of the game, you
go down and you're putting a drive together. You get

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down to the Jets eleven first and ten Dary gets stuffed.
Second eleven Strode gets sacked, loses the fumble recovered by
Will McDonald. Jets ball. Then you go punt punt. Then
the Jets put together drive. Malachi Corley on an end
around goes in for nineteen yards and I'm like, damn touchdown.

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And then on the replay you go, wait a minute,
that dude dropped the ball. How that is still happening
in the Year of Our Lord twenty twenty four. I
have no idea. Stop trying to look cool. Hold onto
the damn ball, like tone it into the end zone,
tone it into the back of the end zone, and
then before you handed to the referee, say did I
score this whole thing? Like guys dropping the ball. We

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was very fortunate they caught a lucky break there because
that thing was about to be seven to nothing, and
you know it's this, This thing could have gotten out
of hand quick. Instead, you get the ball, uh, go punt, punt,
you get the ball back. Finally you go on what
was it a ninety eight yard drive a play, A
drive that started at the two?

Speaker 1 (05:17):
Oh you mean.

Speaker 8 (05:19):
Mixing, Mixing, Mixing.

Speaker 1 (05:21):
I mean it was Joe. It was the Joe Mixing drive,
all right.

Speaker 8 (05:24):
So and finally you took a seven nothing w and
that didn't matter, right Like then you missed a field goal,
could have.

Speaker 1 (05:31):
Made it ten to nothing.

Speaker 8 (05:31):
I mean, just so many missed opportunities in this game
on both sides.

Speaker 6 (05:35):
I will start right off the rip. Somebody helped me
understand why Bobby Slowyd would script the first six plays
to be passes. Joe Mixing, your best offensive player. Now
granted he did get a handoff early in that series.
There was a penalty, so it was no play. Second,
Joe Mixing didn't get a legitimate carry the first six

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plays that was. You're into the second series before Joe
Mixon gets a carry. Bobby, what the hell are you doing?
And I'm talking about Bobby Slow, the offensive coordinator.

Speaker 8 (06:07):
Of course, I think they're just trying to get some
of these guys, you know, get tanked.

Speaker 1 (06:10):
Hell going your dogs, going to bleeping.

Speaker 6 (06:13):
Cute when it's not necessary, as you were being bleeping cute.
And I don't know because remember the Steph Diggs. I
forget who they were playing. It might have been Buffalo.
The step Diggs. He catches the ball he's supposed to
throw at the CJ. Stroud going up the far sideline
on the opponent's sideline. It was supposed to be a
quarterback throwback. Diggs smartly keeps the football. He runs for

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a touchdown using some athleticism. What is going on with
Bobby Sloyd? Get down here in this red zone? Remember
the Green Bay game? We're gonna get down here in
the red Are we going for six? Are we going
for seven? I guess we'll let Fairbaar kicker Field go.
What it's second down and seven? You're in the red area.

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You're down in eleven. Why the hell are you running
a wildcat. You need two scores anyway, The last time
I checked, Joe Mixon gives you the best chance to score.
You might want to give him them damn football, especially
when he's rushing for checks notes Gordon, Joe Mixon ran for.

Speaker 1 (07:14):
Doo to do hundergards one O six per care four
point four.

Speaker 6 (07:19):
When Joe Mixon is racking on four point four and
it's second and seven and you need to touch down
in the field, go oh, wait a minute, Okay, how
about this, Boddy? Slowly tell them here's the play we
want to run. If we get out there and the
defense looks like they've had it, caught it, Casij Strout
was the only receiver on that side of the field.

Speaker 1 (07:37):
Who are we faking out here?

Speaker 6 (07:39):
You got two timeouts, call one of them, get another
play so you ain't just wasting damn downs down here.
So when the resulting in Kymie missing another field goal, Yeah,
but Kymy deserves some blame too.

Speaker 8 (07:52):
I mean, on a night where you don't have Stefan Diggs,
you don't have Nico Collins, the offensive line ain't great,
or we'll get to you know, scoring operate two nieas
a rout a premium, you're going to have to maximize.
And again like that one right before half, you go
up ten to nothing, you feel really good going in
a halftime with a double digit lead. Instead, you come
out in the second half, the Jets go on an

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eleven play seventy yard touchdown drive, Bing Bang Boom were
tied seven to seven.

Speaker 6 (08:17):
Kimi Fairband misses a fifty six yarder and their dooints
a twenty seven yard attempt in the second half.

Speaker 8 (08:24):
The fifty six yards long, but then again he made
a fifty four yarder, So I mean he's for him.

Speaker 6 (08:28):
He's been money out of fifty nine. He's one of
the best, arguably the best kick in the league. Fifty
yards in out. So Nokami to your point, yeah, do.

Speaker 8 (08:36):
You think if they're up ten to nothing at halftime
the snow it looks different because of everything I told you.

Speaker 6 (08:41):
I told you that was Aaron Rodgers. I told you
thold receivers were over there. I told you they had
passed rushers and we all knew this offensive line.

Speaker 8 (08:48):
He looked like Aaron Rodgers about three drives of the night,
Aaron Rodgers.

Speaker 1 (08:52):
He looked like Aaron Rodgers.

Speaker 6 (08:54):
Outscored detections twenty one to six, three possessions in the
second half, all three tuddies. He looked like Aaron Rodgers
in the second half, which I told you he would.
I don't know if the meek on those guys didn't
believe me. Now, it's unfortunate Will Anderson gets that ankle
nicked up again. I don't know what that's about Will
Anderson in an ankle. We'll get to that later in

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the show. That made a difference. It definitely made a difference.
The bottom line is the Jets did everything they could
to give you the game. Aaron Rodgers was held to
his worst half throwing the football in the history of
his career. And you had a rookie from Western Kentucky
lose his damn mind and drop the ball before going

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in end zone. And they need the damn holder that
John Weeks, They need him in the face giving you
an automatic first down. They run into the punter of
Townsend giving you a first down. With all of that,
your ass still scored six points in the second half.
Bobby helped me understand. Now, okay, Stam, it's not really

(09:57):
about Bobby. It's about the offensive line. You're absolute right,
and trust me, I just needed to open the show.

Speaker 1 (10:02):
I know that.

Speaker 6 (10:03):
There's a lot of stuff up going on. We'll talk
about the Miko, we'll have some sound for you. But
I woke up from last night, been up all morning
and I'm just like that couldn't have been their game plan.
Taink Dale was the only wide receiver. I'm sorry. Robert
Woods had a catch too. Maybe he had two. You

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had two receivers catch a pass. Bobby, what are we
doing here? I met you was targeted twice, didn't They didn't.

Speaker 1 (10:33):
Didn't do a damn thing.

Speaker 6 (10:34):
So everybody, including you, Gordy telling me that everybody these
gudes were gonna step away. I thought they have thirty yards, Gordy,
I told you they took the under. I said, Gordy,
they won't. And it's not because I didn't want them to.
But just look at the tails. Start with the old line.
The quarterback has been seeing goals for weeks. The quarterback

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has been flinching for weeks. It's how you fix it.
You have to start with the old line. I'm glad
you said that. We'll do that. On the other side,
Kenny and Downtown wants to chime in. I'm sure many
of you want to sound off. I ain't even got
to the good stuff yet, holding no punches on Next
Up from now to noon seven one, three, two, five,
seven ninety.

Speaker 1 (11:15):
Just stand Northfleet.

Speaker 4 (11:17):
It's just a five, Chris Cordy, be next up, the
next up mentality on your radio.

Speaker 1 (11:24):
Every bottle that you go through prepares you for the
next one.

Speaker 4 (11:26):
Welcome back to next Up on Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 9 (11:34):
Not sure what's happening up front. Will watch the film
and see what it is. But obviously we give up
eight sacks, and you know, every drop back or pass
situation looks like you know, we're in scramble molds. So
it's just not good enough and we can't operate on time,
and we got to get that fixed.

Speaker 6 (11:57):
The course of the song, I think Dre said bad things. Yeah,
the office line was atrocious, but like I miffed at
the reaction. You know, I listened to the Flagship a
little bit last night the post game. I've been watching
social media, reading what's going on, listening.

Speaker 1 (12:18):
To the shows.

Speaker 6 (12:20):
I'm surprised that some of you are surprised that the
outcome looked like that last night.

Speaker 1 (12:27):
Did you like some of you are consumed.

Speaker 6 (12:31):
Gordon included with like what the result is, look at
the record, don't like the process as like the great
business minds, the great political leaders like even like GM's coaches,
the people with re revered They'll tell you Belichick believes
in this process over result. Anybody can have a flash

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in the pain.

Speaker 1 (12:53):
Result.

Speaker 6 (12:54):
The process is what sustains you. Excuse me.

Speaker 1 (12:59):
This offer.

Speaker 6 (13:00):
The line has been broken for weeks most of the season,
if we're being honest, CJ has been under the rest
the entire year. And when he didn't have a couple
guys step Diggs and Nico Collins as good as a
knight as Tank had last night, you saw the difference

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in what a number one looks like. Garrett Wilson and
Devonte Adams are ones. Bless his heart, Tank is not
a one. So CJ saw like, this is the arrogance
to roll out Kenyon Green again, knowing that you're on

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the road going up against Quinn Williams and that defensive
front Solomon Thomas McDonald, the fourth Hassan Reddick Hell ken
Law was in there getting busy. The Texans gave up
three sacks in the first quarter. CJ Stroud pressured a

(14:11):
career high forty eight percent. The pressure percentage on CJ.
Stroud has increased every game the past three career high
sacked eight times.

Speaker 1 (14:23):
CJ. Stroud.

Speaker 6 (14:24):
Six different players for the Jets got into the party
had at least half a sack. Domiko keep telling us, Oh,
it's gonna get better, It'll be all right.

Speaker 1 (14:39):
Oh, you guys.

Speaker 6 (14:40):
The general manager over there said on their flagship, you're
making too much of it.

Speaker 1 (14:44):
Narrative is the word that he used. Look at the game.

Speaker 6 (14:48):
Your quarterback is down, writhing in pain, try to muster
the courage to get back up. He's tired of getting hit,
and they seem to be okay with it. Why do
you say that stand because they won't do anything about it. Finally,
when damn Kenyon Green's shoulder is separated again and I

(15:09):
hope the brother recovers. Well, I don't know the extent
of the injury, but he has had issues with that shoulder.
I do believe one of those shoulders has been surgically repaired. Finally,
ken Drick Green comes out the game and you put
excuse me, kenyun comes out. Ken Drick goes in and
it looks a little bit better. You go, what what
was it? Fourteen plays, ninety eight yards and a tut

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Funny how that works.

Speaker 1 (15:34):
That's back to back weeks. When you took.

Speaker 6 (15:36):
Kenyung Green out and immediately put in a substitute, it
resulted in points.

Speaker 1 (15:41):
It was Jared Patterson last week. Is Kendrick Green this week?

Speaker 8 (15:44):
You know what that felt like though to me, because
we're all sitting there going, why does this look so
much better?

Speaker 1 (15:50):
Oh? Are they? That is the coaching stuff?

Speaker 8 (15:52):
That's stupid that they can't see the difference between this
guy and this guy. That felt like to me that
was a from up above, or or that Kenyan Green
is your left guard because I took him in the
first round with a first round pick, and I have
to get a we have to get a full evaluation
on him to know if he's can played. And I
could easy, you know, I could see Demiko Biden scene's going,

(16:13):
Nick Kiss sucks, he can't play. Hey, look man, let's
let's give it a few more weeks, all right?

Speaker 1 (16:18):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 8 (16:18):
Like, because to look that different when Kendrick Green comes in,
I think we're all sitting there going duh, Like, whose
decision was it? To keep running Kenyan Green out there.

Speaker 1 (16:29):
So you know who?

Speaker 6 (16:30):
I blame Demiko because what has been reported is that
Nick has final say on draft and free agency. Domiko
has final say on who takes the field. So I
blame Demiko maybe because you allowed that's everybody has reported that.
Aaron Wilson, Jonathan Alexander, everybody says, Dimiko, you are in charge.

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Demiko doesn't report to Cassio, Demiko report They both Casario
and Demiko both report directly to cal In how so
we know he controls what happens on the field. And
here's the thing that baffles me even more. I know
Kenny Terry John I'm coming. Joe Cina Anderson reported that

(17:12):
Kenyan Green has been on the trade block for weeks. Okay,
so let me get this straight. Less than a week
before the trade deadline, I'm gonna parade out Kenyon Green
on a short week in that environment versus Quinn Williams,
where you thought his value would go up coming off
that game last week? Why would you play him if

(17:35):
you're going to shop him? And now he's hurt and
now he can't play, and he's.

Speaker 1 (17:40):
Bad at football.

Speaker 6 (17:41):
That is poor general management, period and I'm gonna put
Casario's name on that one.

Speaker 1 (17:47):
It's not personal. Nick. I like you a good dude.
I'm talking about the job.

Speaker 6 (17:51):
It makes no sense, and I'm gonna come around to
this too, Bobby, you are now co whiching the remainder
of the season for your job as the offensive coordinator
of this club next year. If it's me, Chris Strausser,
I appreciate your contributions and what you've done the last
two years. I know you hadn't previously taught this blocking

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scheme last year. It was new to you. You have
a healthy old line and they are performing worse than
the ragtag bunch we had last year. Up front, all
due respect George Fan and others that did the best
they could.

Speaker 1 (18:29):
There's Lamby Tonsa with another.

Speaker 6 (18:31):
False thought, Shaq Mason, Titus Howard getting his bleap handed
to him.

Speaker 1 (18:38):
It's enough to go around. It ain't just Kenyan Green.

Speaker 6 (18:43):
I am releasing Chris Strauser of his duties almost effective immediately,
depending on who Demico can get on the phone to
come coach this bunch.

Speaker 1 (18:53):
Well didn't, Aaron said.

Speaker 8 (18:54):
They have another guy who's like the assistant on line
coach who they're thinking very highly of and he could
easily just step into that role if they decide to
make a change.

Speaker 6 (19:03):
Oh it gets even better. I said this in the DM.
There's just so much stuff to get here. I can't
get to everything. Titus Howard postgame, according to djbn in
Me of ESPN dot Com on the Texas beat, the
starting right tackle on this team quote, the most frustrating
part was we were the better team. We let that

(19:24):
game get away from us. In what world are you?
What are you watching? Titus?

Speaker 1 (19:29):
What are you watching this?

Speaker 6 (19:31):
People like to say the Dallas Cowboy fan base are delusional.
This is tight as being delusional. What are you talking about?

Speaker 1 (19:40):
You? They were in the game. I mean you know.

Speaker 6 (19:43):
This is a quote from Demico Ryans. This is Oh
we may have it?

Speaker 7 (19:48):
Do we have that?

Speaker 2 (19:49):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (19:49):
We just played the Demiko one? What was the other one?

Speaker 6 (19:52):
He was asked about the old line coun I want
the people to hear this, and then I'll shut up
for a while.

Speaker 1 (19:56):
What was the other one? O line?

Speaker 6 (19:58):
Old line? There's something in here I saw. Oh shoot,
I'll find it here in a second. Forgive me for
not having that already done. I get on the rent
and I lose my track here it is give me
this Demico too. CJ gets sacked eight times, four of
those eight happening on third down, and Demiko says, what presny, Time.

Speaker 9 (20:17):
You get sacked that many times, it's not good enough, right,
don't want a quarterback getting hit as many hits as
we took. It's not good enough. And you know, we
gotta make things adjust. We gotta adjust, We gotta change
things moving forward.

Speaker 1 (20:30):
We have to change things moving forward.

Speaker 6 (20:32):
After he's the most sacked quarterback in the league, I
will say, though.

Speaker 1 (20:38):
She isn't there something to say for They're pretty damn
good and run blocking?

Speaker 6 (20:42):
Are they good? Or is Joe mixing good? It could
be a combination of both.

Speaker 1 (20:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (20:46):
I mean it's tough when they because that's what those
guys are gonna argue, are gonna go, we can't have
you on the field. Boll I'm pretty damn good opening
holes for Joe Mixonroun Lambman. Titus didn't get paid for
Joe Mixon to run through the hole like that. They
got paid to keep CJ. Stroud from limb being off
the field. So what do you do on third down?
If you become super they they know you're throwing on
third downs. How do you stop they're sending everyone, or

(21:08):
they're or they're blitzing, or they center extra guys, like.

Speaker 6 (21:10):
How do you have You have to have guys on
the outside that can win their one on ones, and
you don't have that right now. Oh, that's not what
Xavier Hutchison said. Hold On, I'm glad you said that.
Of zero catch hold on, I have that in these notes.
What did my man Hut say? Oh my gosh. He
alluded to being the fact that they were open, And

(21:31):
of course I can't find it when I want it.
I'll come back to that. Let's go to the phone
life now. People been holding it for a while. We'll
start this off seven one three two one two five
seven nine. I'm gonna find that hutch comment because I
was surprised that he made it. Kenny in downtown, man,
let's get started.

Speaker 1 (21:46):
A what's going on?

Speaker 10 (21:48):
Longtime listener just calling in? I don't I don't miss
the show, but I usually listen on the podcast.

Speaker 1 (21:55):
But uh, dad a call in?

Speaker 10 (21:57):
Use them pretty. I'm pretty calm, but uh today it's
not gonna be today.

Speaker 1 (22:02):
We need to talk.

Speaker 10 (22:03):
We need to stop this stupid ass talk about getting
a receiver. You know CJ was getting his hit bashed in.
Every time we go up against grown men on the line,
dude passes for under two of yards and he gets
sapped like twenty times.

Speaker 4 (22:21):
How is this?

Speaker 1 (22:22):
You know, brain surgery?

Speaker 10 (22:24):
Get offensive linemen.

Speaker 1 (22:25):
Stop this talk about stupid ass receivers. We don't need one.

Speaker 3 (22:28):
We haven't.

Speaker 10 (22:28):
We have confident receivers.

Speaker 6 (22:31):
I disagree with you on Kenny Kenny. I disagree with
you there, and I think last night was telling last
night the Jets receivers, and I get it. If Nico
was on the field, if Steph were on the field,
we won't see Steph the rest of the year.

Speaker 1 (22:45):
Nico misses games.

Speaker 6 (22:46):
I'm not so sure that the receiver group we had
on the field last night, we won't see.

Speaker 1 (22:51):
That group again. Now. I hope that's not the case.
Last night I had the same vibes.

Speaker 6 (22:56):
That I had when this team went to Baltimore on
the division around last year. They can't they can't move.
There was no threat other than Tank Dale, and at
least they had that. I disagree with that. This team
absolutely needs a receiver, They absolutely need offensive line help,
and it will be absolute malpractice. General management malpractice if

(23:18):
the Miko and Nick Cassario allow CJ. Stroud to go
out there another game because the trade deadline is coming
up on Tuesday. With that offensive line. Now, the word
that I have highlighted in our rundown guys, the Miko quote,
we've got to change things moving forward. So at least
he's not saying we're gonna stand past I trust my guys,

(23:45):
Xavier Howard, just not being able to connect wide receiver
Xavier Howard. Xavier Hutchinson said when asked what was the
most frustrating thing about the loss quote, I feel like
as a receiver group, we were getting open today. It
may not show up in the stat sheet, but you
turn on the tape and you'll see a lot of

(24:05):
people winning their one on ones. Is what he's inferring there.
So if the problem in the quarterback and the problem
in the receivers getting open, that's Xavier Hutchinson saying, look,
the offensive line, give me something. I'll close this segment
with this and we'll start this thing over on the
other side. Pro Bowl left tackle Laramie Tunzel on the

(24:26):
Jets having eight sacks last night. It's the same thing
that happens every week, overload, twist games, blitzing the same
thing we see every week. I think we just gotta
be better. That be nice, Lamby, that'd be really nice.
If you would take charge of your offensive line group

(24:47):
and get guys to protect the quarterback, that'd be really good.

Speaker 1 (24:50):
I know you're trying to. You don't get paid to try,
you get paid to be be better. Have seen nothing
like it. I have never seen an offensive line.

Speaker 6 (25:03):
Gordon, one hundred and thirty one million dollars guaranteed, is
currently in the five starting offensive lineman, the second most
guaranteed money in the league, got the position, and this
is how they are performing. And apparently it's okay and
it's gonna fix itself. And lam Me saying, yep, it's
the same thing every week, including you jumping off sides, Lamy.

(25:29):
They have now, Gordon, they have put themselves in a
position that.

Speaker 1 (25:34):
Every team here on out, including the Lions.

Speaker 6 (25:36):
Coming up on another nationally televised game, the lines on
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They're gonna do the same thing. They're gonna do the
same thing Green Bay did. They're gonna do the same
thing that Chicago did. They're gonna do the same thing
the Vikings did. They're gonna do the same thing that
we've now seen who they just way the coach did it,

(25:59):
and now that the damn Jets have done. And let
me just add too.

Speaker 8 (26:02):
I saw people, I know, Connie Waye, I'm sore bashing
Kenyan Green. And look, anytime you're a you're an athlete
in football, basketball, baseball, and you're terrible and you get injured,
they're going to people be people that celebrated right. Wrong,
You're different. I know we like to do the high
horse and climb o Huram mountain and go, how dare
you celebrate an injury? Look, I get it, you shouldn't

(26:24):
do it. It's not classy whatever, But also understand the
other side. When you are so bad, the diehard fan
who wants their team to win, and you continue to
suck every time you go out there, yeah there's gonna
be a continuous fans that go, well, thank god he's out.
And again, it's not celebrating an injury. It's more celebrating
you're not playing football anymore.

Speaker 6 (26:43):
Nick Cassario, if you were trying to trade him, why
would you put him out there last night your showcases
to showcase him getting his ass whipped by Quinn Williams.
I know we're way over. I just want to do
this to be fair. There's enough blame to go around.

Speaker 1 (26:59):
Uh Green.

Speaker 6 (27:00):
He went down with a shoulder injury, as we all know,
second quarter, after giving up a sack to Quentin Williams
and three quarterback pressures.

Speaker 1 (27:07):
He never came back in the game.

Speaker 6 (27:09):
Ken Drick Green was a part of that fourteen play
ninety eight yard drive the touchdown. Excuse me to rush
the touchdown to Joe Mixon for three yards. However, Ken
Drick Green gave up six pressures a sack for the
remaining two and a half quarters. This offensive line has problems.
They know it, they've known it. And there's something that

(27:31):
I thought about last night. Nick Cassario has listened to
this show, and I think he would tell me stand,
you're not wrong. I thought I had more time. I'll
explain and we'll take all these calls. Terry, Jacob, John
Mooton and Clarence They'll you all be next up on
their side. Way over Sports Talk seven.

Speaker 4 (27:48):
Ninety next Seth continues he was not having text Okay,
here's stat or fleet Chris Cordy, it's not having text.

Speaker 1 (27:55):
Okay, what sports sucks?

Speaker 11 (28:02):
Oh, I gotta do better, get the ball out, gotta
change the pocket, different jobs, you know, And there's a
ton of things schematically and scheme wise we can do,
and you know we we did some of those things,
but we at the end of the day, we got to execute.
You know, we're grown men. We're paid to play this game.
And at the end of the day, when you line
up with a cigar against you and you gotta win

(28:22):
your one on one. And I was one of our
keys of victory. And I didn't do that myself. You know,
I always try to win my one on one. And
I got my butt kicked today too. So you know,
it's a good time for us to look in the mirror.
And you know, now we get a couple of days
off and get our bodies back right and look ourselves
in the mirror. I really realize, like, what type of
four all team do you want to be?

Speaker 6 (28:42):
The guy that wears number seven representing the city of
Houston over there at NRG Stadium, c J Stroup. I
think it's admirable that CJ is trying to fall on
the sword for the game.

Speaker 1 (28:54):
My number one.

Speaker 6 (28:55):
When we signed Steph Diggs and Nico got his money
and Dalton Schultz signed. Here comes Joe Mixon and he
gets a contract. Here comes to Neil Hunter, Deniko Arthriazi's
al shaya. You draft Kamar last to the second round.
He's cornerback two opposite thing. All that bleep is cool.
The number one thing I said, if this offensive line

(29:17):
is healthy and productive, we'll have a chance. They're healthy
up until you know Kenyon Green's injury last night?

Speaker 1 (29:25):
Underachievment?

Speaker 8 (29:26):
Did you get how nervous did you get when CJ
before halftime was laying on the ground. I kept saying,
oh my god. And then and then we got to
listen to Kirk Kirkstreet go. You know, and Davis Mills
is their backup, Like Kirk, shut the hell off, he has.

Speaker 1 (29:37):
A job here. I'm putting Davis Mills in his game.

Speaker 6 (29:39):
Davis would going in there had CJ not been able
to finish.

Speaker 8 (29:42):
Here would have been my Amazon Prime click turn it off.
Davis Mills has won games in the NFL. I wouldn't
have turned it off. Do I think he would have
won last night?

Speaker 1 (29:51):
No?

Speaker 6 (29:52):
Aaron Rodgers was on the heater in the second half
where they outscored the Texans. And I'll get to the defense.
I'm still on the offensive line and I ain't done
with that. But I think Caceario would tell us something
if he was in the room. I'll tell you what
I think he would say. Here we go, Terry and Cypress,
let's try and speed through these. I apologize, guys, I'm
on one today. Y'all only have two hours.

Speaker 1 (30:10):
Go ahead.

Speaker 12 (30:11):
Hey, look, look, look Stan, Chris, look man, look good.
The old line is trash. Let's just call it Nyaci.
Last night, it's been trashed since day one. Look, trading
dead coming up. And I'm hey, you take a take
a cab here. They did it when the house was here,
when they got rid of him, Tonto and Howard. I
don't care what they.

Speaker 1 (30:31):
Do with him.

Speaker 12 (30:32):
They need to get rid of those guys today, not tomorrow. Yeah,
and I know they're not going to do it because
but I'd rather take a cap hit because if number
seven go down, this team don't have a scover even
reaching a digital game.

Speaker 6 (30:46):
Long, Terry and Cypress, try giving us a shout back.
Excuse me if you would Connor that line was a
little bit fuzzy.

Speaker 12 (30:54):
There.

Speaker 1 (30:54):
Let's go on the northwest side. John, You're next up.

Speaker 5 (30:58):
Hey, Stan, you know, I totally agree with everything you're saying.
I've been calling in just about from day one. I've
been worried about the offensive line. And you know, I'm
gonna say again, I sound like a broken record, but
we need to change that offensive line coach. And I
keep thinking about the best season the Texans ever had
was twenty twelve when they were twelve and four, and

(31:18):
this John Benton did a great job with them.

Speaker 1 (31:21):
And that guy's been.

Speaker 5 (31:22):
In the league I think for like thirty three years.
I think he's at New Orleans now trying to straighten
that mess out. But we need somebody that has a
lot of experience and just really knows how to mold
an offensive line.

Speaker 1 (31:34):
We don't have that now. These guys are not getting better.

Speaker 5 (31:37):
They look disorganized, they don't look they don't It just
seems like they're not clear on their assignments. And I'm
telling you, CJ. I'm really I say this every week.
I'm concerned about CJ's health because he can't take a
beating like this, and I'm really worried about the Lions.
I mean, Lions are going to massacre these guys and
we you know, but I think it really starts with

(31:57):
that offensive line coach for one, but yes, the co
in general, like I'm I'm very disappointed and slow, I'm
very disappointed, just all the way around.

Speaker 6 (32:06):
John on the northwest side, we thank you for supporting
the show, and I share your sentiment. Let's grab one
more if we can be quick with this. Clarence in
Jersey Village, you're next up.

Speaker 13 (32:16):
Hey, good morning, good morning gods. Look, thank you Rockets
for that wonderful win. The only highlight of the night. Man,
I'm telling you, he was the only highlight.

Speaker 1 (32:29):
I'm gonna make it quick, slow it.

Speaker 13 (32:31):
You've been exposed, my man, Strauser, you're on your way
out the door. Demiko, you let us down last night.
You got exposed second half of their defense. Why in
the hell you got Petreon Adams.

Speaker 1 (32:42):
That's what steam is for steam the cover of the
top wide receivers. Man, not half for the field. Put
him on the best wide receiver. That's what top cornerbacks do.

Speaker 13 (32:52):
Look quarterback, my man Straud, your next evolution, man is
gonna be the start holding.

Speaker 1 (32:58):
These guys accountable.

Speaker 13 (32:59):
They have to be held accountable by you. You on
the field. Start getting on these guys, man. We need
y'all to come together and.

Speaker 2 (33:09):
Play like a winning team.

Speaker 14 (33:11):
Were letting us down.

Speaker 1 (33:12):
We love you guys man, step it up. Thanks Gods
for a call.

Speaker 6 (33:15):
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Speaker 1 (35:02):
Home of Longhorn Football.

Speaker 9 (35:04):
Oh my goodness, just like anyone, guys, I feel like
anytime you're getting pressure that much or you're getting hit.
It's gonna affect any quarterback, right, That's always the game.
Playing defensively is trying to, you know, fluster the quarterback.
And that's what they did today.

Speaker 6 (35:22):
Yeah, Coach, the Jets did it. They did it well,
they did it often, and it absolutely impacted c J.
Stroud Fleet Gordon. Next up is the show. Appreciate everybody
hanging out with us. Connedy mcgovernor on the other side
of the glass. We'll take you up until noon into
the Matt Thomas Show. I'm pissed that was embarrassing for

(35:48):
a lot of people, for that offensive line, for the team, Domiko,
Bobby Slowick, Cal and Hannah. Organizationally, that's embarrassing Casario. And
I'm not mad at Caserio, be honest with you, because
Cassario has given Demiko and Bobby Sloyd, the two guys

(36:08):
call them plays over there. He's given them enough groceries
to cook.

Speaker 1 (36:14):
Now.

Speaker 6 (36:14):
I'm gonna be upset with Casario if Tuesday three o'clock
comes and goes and he doesn't do anything to seriously
boaster within reason. Several areas that this team needs improvement,
like offensive line, like wide receiver, like cover corner.

Speaker 1 (36:34):
I ain't even got to the defense.

Speaker 6 (36:35):
I do that at live o'clock, Casario, I'm not as
mad at for the city of Houston on national TV
versus an awful Jets team by record. I was the
one telling y'all yesterday they're better than the record, Stan,
Aaron Rodgers.

Speaker 1 (36:53):
Is washed up.

Speaker 6 (36:54):
Did he look washed up to you? He can't move anymore. No,
he can't move like he used to. But I saw
him fake out Devin White on a thirteen yard scramble,
out running several Texans defenders. Now, there was an offensive
penalty on the offensive lineman for the Jets. For Shanu,
they bring it back. Nonetheless, we all saw Aaron move

(37:18):
twenty one to six in the second half, Bobby, how
come everybody scoring touchdowns in the second half except us?
What is it six offensive touchdowns in nine games in
the second half, Bobby, I'll give you one more besides
that silly ass trick played down there, second and seven,

(37:39):
and you're doing some bs throw the siege. What The
Texans were down twenty one to ten from two minutes
and forty eight seconds to the end of the game,
and Joe Mixon never touched the ball again. Maybe I

(38:00):
missed it reading through the game notes, your best offensive
player didn't touch the ball, you were down two scores.
You needed to score a touchdown or at least get
a field goal range. We've seen Joe Mixon do that
all year. He didn't touch the ball again the last
two minutes and forty eight seconds. That is the play

(38:24):
caller period. At least that's how I see it. You know,
I can't tell y'all what to think. You think for yourself,
Jacob on the north side, you've been holding brother. I
appreciate you.

Speaker 1 (38:32):
Go ahead, ain no problems.

Speaker 2 (38:34):
Then, hey, I was the one yesterday said that.

Speaker 1 (38:37):
He was washed. Uh huh, I said it.

Speaker 2 (38:41):
But look the first half though they were putting the
pressures on him, they shut him down.

Speaker 1 (38:47):
Why in the second half they stopped.

Speaker 2 (38:50):
Ringing a pressure on him, and then it's third and
nineteen or thirty twenty nine, they just brought back into
coverage instead of putting the pressure on him like every
other team doing a pressure.

Speaker 1 (39:01):
They blitzing him and he throwing the ball away.

Speaker 2 (39:04):
They stopped doing it, broke and then dude made the
acrobatic catch.

Speaker 1 (39:07):
That was a great catch, which one he made too.

Speaker 6 (39:09):
Garrett Wilson made two one handed ketches, one on Petrie,
the other on last of the both of touchdowns.

Speaker 2 (39:16):
But okay, why is Peachtree even holding up in Minnesota?

Speaker 6 (39:20):
That's an interesting point. I appreciate. I appreciate your thought that, Jacob.
I'm sorry, I know you had some more to go,
but I gotta get some other folks in. Here's what
there will Here's what they will say would happened. They
will say, Will Anderson goes out the game, so they
can't manufacture enough pressure with just games and stunt up front.
So now you must add other players to the pressure

(39:42):
package and or blitz. They chose the blitz. Where if
you blitz and Aaron Rodgers checks into another formation and
he makes Jaln Petrie truly have to operate inside as
a cover corner, as a cover player the nickel corner,

(40:02):
then he's got you. Now what they should have done.
I went back and looked at it. They should have
just called time out. I don't know why, Demiko, he
had two call time out. I don't like the idea
of Petrie guarding Davonte Adams. That's kind of a bad idea,
and Petrie owned it. Petrie said that he was asked
after the game, what happened? Davante ran right by me.

(40:24):
I gotta be better. He owned it. I respect that.
It's a very difficult position to be in. Call timeout, regroup,
what's all this. I'm gonna take my timeouts with me.
You can't put them on the plane and bring them
back to Houston. Use him crazy as hell, man, I just.

Speaker 1 (40:43):
MoU tar get in here, brother, Yeah, a shocking. You
know you watch games.

Speaker 3 (40:49):
I've been watching games I was five years old. I've
not seen an offensive line, particularly one player in Kenyon Green.
Bro this guy gets hurt and the quarterback falling on
the shoulder because he gave up the pressure. So at
the end of the day, man, you know in the
in the the call on the goal line where you

(41:09):
got Mixing throwing a ball, it was all bad timing man,
and and and my thing is I'm seeing Bobby slowk
I'm not happy.

Speaker 1 (41:17):
I've been happy with him all year.

Speaker 3 (41:19):
Given the weapons that we have, he just has them,
use them properly. I'm just a little frustrated. Shocking is
one thing you wake up after loss like that in
your pits.

Speaker 1 (41:28):
Man.

Speaker 3 (41:29):
I know you got to get them away and I
get get back my.

Speaker 6 (41:31):
Man moves on in the galleria. Thank you, brother, Let's
grab one more. Gordon, we'll wrap up our one here, Wade,
I t and westbound and Katie.

Speaker 1 (41:40):
What's good with it?

Speaker 14 (41:41):
What's up with your stama? Man? Yes, I am livid, dummy,
dummy Cole Ryan, Yes, I said that right, dummy Cole
Ryan and Bobby slow.

Speaker 8 (41:52):
With you used the name like that.

Speaker 14 (41:59):
That's yeah, okay, dumb but they good friends. But friendship
wanna take you so far. We're trying to win the
Super Bowl, hill Man, Bobby slow Witch should have been
fired on the way home on that plane, like Ian
Housefield was. That is ridiculous, man, because somebody now they're
gonna hear crickets in that stadium again. Man, they don't
make them some serious, serious changes. That's ridiculous, man. That

(42:22):
that that has to stop. I'm a legally blind veteran.
I listened to the game on the radio. Andre Wild
was spitting fire.

Speaker 1 (42:29):
Oh he's hot.

Speaker 14 (42:30):
He was, he was, he was hot, man, he was hog.
I said this this has to change. And then then
to listen to dummy Cole Ryan, come out there can
cook cool on to look at the good things we're doing,
but do not get back up. They was supposed to
be something good.

Speaker 1 (42:46):
Come on, man, now you sound like Gordon for real.

Speaker 6 (42:48):
Mster Wade. We appreciate your service. Brother, hit us up anytime.
Thank you for listening. It's about process. Man to meet
understand Dad, Bobby understands that I know the guys over there,
even on upfront. Those guys are working hard. This is
a results oriented business. Same in my business. We either

(43:11):
get a number, whether that be an advertiser budget or
a ratings number, or they get somebody else in the seat.
That's how this works. What happens out there in terms
of wins and losses. This what happened last night was
a culmination of things that some local radio hosts had

(43:33):
been telling y'all about for weeks and many of you,
some of you have owned up to it. My man
Tony Sugarland said he was wrong. He gotta get me
that cigar. We'll figure it out. Tony, I'm not basking.
It's not about I was right. I want the Texas
to be in New Orleans representing the ASC in the
Super Bowl.

Speaker 8 (43:52):
I'm trying to get to New Orleans. I can make
gor to pay for lunch or something.

Speaker 1 (43:57):
I don't know.

Speaker 6 (44:00):
I have to laugh to keep from crying, like this
is just absurd, Like Gordon, did you hit this?

Speaker 1 (44:05):
I know we gotta go to break.

Speaker 6 (44:05):
But like Joe Mixon, the best offensive player down eleven points,
didn't touch the ball from two minutes and forty eight
seconds to the end of the game.

Speaker 1 (44:12):
He didn't touch the ball again.

Speaker 6 (44:14):
Daria Gooonbawale had more targets and door carries than Joe
Mixon did from what point two forty eight in the
fourth quarter, So from two forty eight to the game
when they were down one, down eleven, Well, but you're
not gonna run it, of course you are.

Speaker 1 (44:29):
You trying to score. You gotta score by any means necessary.
But you gotta you down two scores, you gotta score quick.
You gotta throw.

Speaker 6 (44:34):
No, you don't you run because you also need a
field goal. What I'm saying is you still have your
full playbook. I don't know what the hell was going
on by clot your enemy at that point. And you
have timeouts, you have the sideline, you have the two
minute warning. You can stop the clock. Bobby knows this.
Run your offense through your best player. It's not that
hard or through the most valuable player while we were

(44:57):
watching a beat down up in New York. At least
the Rockets would ain't care of business. One oweight one
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twenty three points from Jay Green. Lukadancis has twenty nine.
They got to take that al though, Rockets got off
to a start thirty four to twenty one. Rockets. Now
what are they now? Rockets? I believe that record is?

(45:20):
Is it three and two?

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Okay? We got it?

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Speaker 1 (46:26):
Now What's next? Next Stops?

Speaker 2 (46:29):
It's the next man up, Next stop, the next step,
Take the next step, next.

Speaker 4 (46:33):
Stop, next stop, next next stop.

Speaker 1 (46:36):
This team wants to be next.

Speaker 4 (46:40):
This is next st Up with Tad Norfleeten Chris Gordy.

Speaker 5 (46:44):
Let's see what's next next next.

Speaker 6 (46:48):
Kicking off the second half final hour of the show
here on a Friday. Normally we would say feeling good,
feeling great, But I'm Pence. The Texans embarrassed themselves and us,
and they put me in a position where I have
to say the truth. I like those guys, like the organization,
of course. I love the city in Houston, best city
in the country, I tell you, and most certainly we

(47:08):
love and the door you all who allow us to
maintain our status as your home for Houston sports. If
you missed the first hour of the show, go to
Sports seven ninety dot com and utilize the free iHeartRadio app.
Connor will have that up for you. Shortly after the
noon hour, Matt Thomas, Ross Viry, come on your way. Actually,
Matt won't be on. I'll join Ross for the first

(47:30):
hour of that program. Matt Thomas was on the call
last night in Dallas as the Rockets going to American
Airline Center and they go get one Rockets. Currently three
and two Rockets sitting at the four seed in the
West as of today. I understand with the season just
started then the four seed.

Speaker 8 (47:47):
I don't know how to stop the count. Listen, no
you want to stop the game last night at the half,
I would have liked that. Unbelievable. Oh so Texas defense,
do your probably ever have done? Damn to be at
you something shout you know what I say?

Speaker 6 (48:02):
At halftime, y'all are so lucky that that rookie dropped
the ball before crossing the goal line. It should have
been seven to seven at the half. Yeah, but instead
the Texans won seven zero.

Speaker 8 (48:14):
Hold it, don't you think that there's no excuse for
that these days after Deshaun Jackson did it?

Speaker 1 (48:19):
What about a decade ago.

Speaker 8 (48:21):
Hold on to the damn football, crossing the plane, take
about five steps, and then do whatever celebration you want.

Speaker 6 (48:28):
Easy to say, trying to look cool, Easy to say
when you're not out there.

Speaker 8 (48:32):
Easy that was I just dropped the football. You dropped
it before you score? Dumbass, adrenaline things happen. It does
adrenaline yourself to the referee, hand him the football and
say did I score?

Speaker 6 (48:42):
No, it's a bone hand moment, no question. You mentioned
the historic performance at least first half by the Texans
defense held future Hall of Famer Aaron Rodgers to a
career worst thirty two yards went passing at least ten
times in the first half.

Speaker 1 (48:58):
Oh, but that second half, good lord.

Speaker 6 (49:01):
Aaron Rodgers threw for one hundred and seventy nine second
half yards three touchdowns, beating Jalen Petrie for two of
the touts. Oh, by the way, Garrett Wilson had two
catches for nine yards in the first half. What he
do in the second half? How about eighty one yards
and two touts, both of them one handed. Crazy Davonte

(49:27):
Adams caught all three targets sixty six yards in a
touchdown in the second half.

Speaker 1 (49:32):
How did he do it? Demiko was asked, what did
they do?

Speaker 6 (49:36):
Demiko talked about the guys Aaron Rodgers and what they
did to get the ball out quick. How quick Aaron
got the ball out on an average of two point
two two seconds against the Texans defense, his quickest time
to throw off the season, says NFL Next Gen Stats. Demiko,
what did you see from Aaron in the second half.

Speaker 9 (49:55):
Not just you know, RPOs. They were calling them in
the first half as well, So it wasn't a huge
adjustment or anything that they did, Like, we gotta set
the edge and come out and tackle on those. Some
of those we didn't set the edge well, and we
you know, kind of missed missed the tackle.

Speaker 1 (50:11):
We weren't urgent enough to get down and tackle the guy.

Speaker 9 (50:13):
So quick passes end up turning in the first down.
So it all comes back to me a sense of
urgency and tackling.

Speaker 6 (50:20):
Uh. Yeah, the first one, two, three, four, five, the
first sixth series in the first half, Gordon the Texans
made the Jets punt punt Fumbo punt punt punt, and
then we start the second half right off the rip.
Jets eleven plays seventy yards tut next series twelve plays

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seventy yards tud third series eight plays eighty yards tut ball.

Speaker 1 (50:50):
Game.

Speaker 8 (50:51):
Well, in defense, you went field goal, field goal, made,
field goal nullified, and miss field goal and then fie goal.
So you technically, by letter of the loss, scored on
all three of your possessions in the second half.

Speaker 1 (51:06):
It's just one of them.

Speaker 8 (51:07):
On the mad field goal, you had a penalty and said, okay,
well we'll keep this drive alive, and then you missed
the field goal.

Speaker 6 (51:13):
If doesn't count, then to make the previous make doesn't matter.
I don't want to hear that there is a law
you scored on that drive.

Speaker 1 (51:19):
No, you didn't.

Speaker 8 (51:20):
You will you take points on his three book will
not reflect any points put on the scoreboard.

Speaker 1 (51:26):
All I'm saying is you technically scored on all three drives.

Speaker 6 (51:29):
Chiming Fairvan missing a fifty six yarder and he doointed
the twenty seven yarder. Meanwhile, they're new kickers, but his
dude named Shephard he banked one end off the upright
might have been an extra point. I'm just so, I'm
just so pissed. I'm looking over all these notes. Man,
this is crazy.

Speaker 1 (51:47):
C J.

Speaker 6 (51:47):
Stroud Head held to a career low thirty six percent
completion percentage.

Speaker 1 (51:52):
It's absurd, man.

Speaker 6 (51:54):
I'm all pissed about the offensive line, but it's time
for the defense to get some too. Jaylen Petrie had
a bad Hey, listen, I'm gonna say this name, and
some of y'all get hot in the shorts about the kid.
And I understand that he's a young man and he's
got to learn.

Speaker 1 (52:07):
On the job. Stop telling me. Kamar Lassiter is a guy.
Oh you can't. Don't hit on the rookie. He's getting crutched.
He's a rookie. What does that mean?

Speaker 6 (52:18):
Willl Anderson Julian was a rookie last year and he
won Defensive Player the Year.

Speaker 1 (52:23):
What does that mean we see rookie.

Speaker 6 (52:24):
When Adon Hutchinson was in Detroit, different position his rookie year,
he got busy last overalls.

Speaker 8 (52:30):
The guy down in the field last night. He's not
having the year, D'Angelo Rosston. I mean, come on, what's
your other option?

Speaker 6 (52:36):
What I'm telling you is we've seen soft guard and
his rookie year, he went and played a good ball.

Speaker 1 (52:40):
Dude was taking top five in the draft. What does
that mean.

Speaker 8 (52:43):
I have higher expectations for a top five draft pick
than I do a dude taking him the second.

Speaker 6 (52:49):
You sound crazy because it's all based on your class
of corners, Kamar Lassiter says to Miko was thought to
have a first round grade. They feel like they got
to steal They gave the number two cornerback spot. Hell,
he wasn't even I was gonna say on campus. He
wasn't even in the city yet. The man had been
to Popaoles one time and he already had a starting

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position and went healthy.

Speaker 8 (53:10):
Garrett Wilson and DeVante Adams are two of the best
receivers in the league.

Speaker 6 (53:14):
And he's got to go cover those guys because guess what,
the Detroit lines are coming in here, and they got
a couple guys that's pretty damn good, even though I
think James and Williams is in trouble right.

Speaker 1 (53:22):
Now, but Saint Brown's pretty good for them too.

Speaker 6 (53:26):
So my point is, Nick, you gotta go add another
cover corner if you're trying to get to the Super Bowl,
an AFC championship game.

Speaker 1 (53:33):
Better go get your another court.

Speaker 8 (53:34):
At the end of the day, look was the defense
grade and the second of no. But the end of
the day, you held that team to twenty one points?
Are your offense didn't do enough? Are you scored for thirteen?
Here is yes, I'm serious, you scored thirteen? Stand You
don't win games at thirteen points in the National Football League.

Speaker 6 (53:47):
Gordon do better Aaron Rodgers and a two win team.
While some of that two wins. But let me get
it out. While DeVante Adams was off the field in
concussion protocol for some time.

Speaker 8 (54:00):
Anthony Beck said it yesterday on Matt Thomas's show, the
color commentary for the Jet said, Look, that's kind of
you're skewing the story here when you say that's a
two weeks I'm the.

Speaker 1 (54:08):
One that said that's the team. That team is way more.
Town said this.

Speaker 6 (54:12):
Yesterday, and many of you told me, I was out
of my mind. Y'all told me, don't worry about the receivers.

Speaker 1 (54:18):
Y'all told me. Don't y'all told me.

Speaker 6 (54:21):
Many of you have said, what has Devonte done since
he's been there? What has Garrett Wilson done. Y'all told
Aaron Rodgers was old. Y'all told me, don't worry about
Breze Hall. Y'all told me, don't worry about about Briso.
No one told you any of them.

Speaker 8 (54:35):
We all said it was It was a dangerous game,
and everybody was nervous. Speak the Texas to win. I
think this is twenty one to twenty. Oh my god,
it's not like the revision is history in this room.

Speaker 1 (54:47):
This close to winning.

Speaker 8 (54:48):
Yeah, coming Fairbar makes his damn field goals, You're probably
winning that game.

Speaker 6 (54:52):
I told you I was concerned. Do y'all now see
why I was concerned. Colon League sait to get in here,
wrap up this segment.

Speaker 1 (54:59):
He was upate. What a man?

Speaker 5 (55:01):
I want to touch on something.

Speaker 15 (55:02):
We know the offensive line is terrible, but I want
to know what the hell is going on with Bobby Slowick.
And I tweeted this after the last game that I
know why he didn't get ahead coaching jobs.

Speaker 1 (55:11):
It's forever to get CJ. Stroud the play call.

Speaker 15 (55:15):
So every time, it seems like every play, by the
time everybody's set ready to go, they have less than
five seconds on the play clock. So CJ cannot look
at the defense and make any adjustments or do anything.

Speaker 1 (55:25):
I don't know if he's not allowed to.

Speaker 15 (55:27):
If that's the way Bobby's calling it, But I don't
know what's going on with that.

Speaker 6 (55:31):
It's an interesting comment. I've heard it stated a couple
other places. Colled appreciate the call out in League City.
CJ does have some Watona me some to. We heard it.
He did it during the Green Bay game. Hell, he
did it last week versus the Colts. CJ checks out
of plays.

Speaker 1 (55:49):
Now. I do agree with you.

Speaker 6 (55:50):
The game operation and the play calling sequence and win
is coming in. They gotta do something about that. But
I believe all of the NFL quarterbacks I know. We
can ask Salisbury. I'm sure he'll tell you. You gotta
like when you break the huddle, when the play call
is coming in through the headset, you gotta have a
go to play. Gordon, we used to do that when

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I was playing, Like, no matter what they were signaling
in from the calls from the sideline, no matter what
the call was, the play caller, the middle linebacker, more
often than not, he would look at the play clock
and then somebody has to look at the offense breaking
the huddle. If we don't get to play in by
the time the offense lines up, we're gonna call a
border board a board. We're gonna check base. We're gonna

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run our base defense, which was a four to three
down alignment unless we were running the odd front, and
we're gonna run cover to cloud coverage. And if like,
what you run offensively or defensively doesn't necessarily matter as
long as everybody's running the same thing. When you start
getting I thought we were playing too high. I thought
we were playing one low. I thought we were playing

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cover zero. Like you start getting into that, you get
jazz b now specifically with the offensive operation. I can't
speak to exactly why Bobby slog did not get a
head coaching job. Perhaps he was offered one and declined
it Demko did. Maybe he thought he would get a
better job if he would get to the AFC Championship

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Game or Super Bowl or another prolific year with CJ. Stroud,
and he would have more opportunities. Here's what I know now.
I do not think an owner would hire Bobby Slok
right now to be head coach.

Speaker 8 (57:26):
I would not, well, yeah not when I would not
not when your your stock is down. I mean they've
scored what the last three they've scored twenty two, twenty
three and thirteen.

Speaker 1 (57:37):
Gord it, Joe Mimber. Those are losses.

Speaker 6 (57:39):
Joe Mixon got seven carries in the second half after
gaining ninety one yards on seventeen carries in the first half.
They gave the ball to Joe Mixon seven times in
the second half.

Speaker 8 (57:51):
Well, I think it's worth noting you had only you
had only three drives. You did, like I said, they
led the field goal drives. How are you explaining this away?
I'm just saying like you just not like how many
they had one, two, three, four, five, six, seven possessions
in the first half. When you have seven possessions, it's
a lot easier to get Joe Mixon the ball, a

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lot when you only have three in the third half.
Second half, guess what the other team played, this thing
called keep away where they did not allow you to
possess the football much in the second half.

Speaker 6 (58:20):
Who was the best player on offense for the Texans?
It was Joe Mixon. How is he only touching the
ball seven times? Because when you're trailing, you can't run
the football. There's less time two things you can run.
You have timeouts, you have too minute one and and
then you you have that so you can run your offense.
Oh and Joe Mixon can do this thing every time,
run it to the boundary.

Speaker 1 (58:40):
And oh and.

Speaker 6 (58:41):
There's this thing called the checkdown where you can actually
allow Joe Mixon to catch the football.

Speaker 1 (58:47):
Huh, it's funny how that works.

Speaker 8 (58:48):
I think this all goes back to the offensive line stinking,
and it's got CJ. Stroud's second guessing himself. It's got
Bobby slow second second guessing what do I call here?
Because I know I don't have time to even run it.
This all goes back to if the offensive line was
doing their job, CJ would look like a genius, Bobby
Sloan would look like a genius. They'd all we'd be
singing their praises. Like where a year ago at this

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time the offensive line had less talent last year and
they played better.

Speaker 1 (59:13):
Exactly, So explain that.

Speaker 8 (59:15):
Why is Shaq Mason, Larmy Tunsel and Titus I would
all suck now.

Speaker 1 (59:19):
Don't know?

Speaker 6 (59:20):
kJ and cypress Wood on the north side. We'll take
you on the other side.

Speaker 1 (59:23):
I know we're.

Speaker 6 (59:24):
Way over here. Good Lord, I've just blown through the clock.
Y'all forgive me, but I appreciate the conversation. Never enough time,
the legendary KB and me.

Speaker 4 (59:32):
Who's got next, what's coming next?

Speaker 1 (59:37):
What do we do next?

Speaker 15 (59:38):
Next?

Speaker 4 (59:39):
And who's gotta take it to the next level? Back
kids to Stanton Northfleet and Chris Gordy. This is next
up by Sports Talk seven ninety.

Speaker 6 (59:52):
All right, let's get to the phone lines. Man, we
won't waste time here. Gordy me where we Oh he's at,
Chris Gordyon, I'm at stand sports man. We are at
Sports Talks. I'm just bouncing around. I got so much
data here. Oh we were talking about wide receivers, Gordon
and I. During the break, CJ. Stroud was asked, I
know you don't have Steph and you don't have Nico.

(01:00:14):
Stroud admitted, not even Nico Collins could have saved the
Texans last night. The situation is bigger than just missing Nico.
This is a quote from Stroud courtesy of The Houston Chronicle.
Nico is definitely a big chunk of that, and of
course Steph as well, But at the same time, it's
things Even if they were out there, it wouldn't have

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even helped. Stroud said, it's a ton of things we
can work on on. If he's saying it ain't him,
necessarily he's saying it ain't the receivers. He's talking about
the offensive line. None of this matters to some degree,
Bobby Slowick's play calling doesn't matter. Then then conversely, some

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people are saying, wait a minute, the Texans were getting
some pressure on Aaron Rodgers in the first half. What
adjustment did he make in the second half? He got
the ball out, He got the ball out. What I
told you guys were was it two point something? Two
point two two.

Speaker 1 (01:01:11):
Seconds and you were missing one of your step pass rushers.

Speaker 6 (01:01:15):
Change the way that the Texans played. Not having Will
Anderson Junior out there definitely change how they play. Offensive
line is a problem. And I'm gonna say this. I
told you going into last night, I wanted to see
how CJ responded on a short week, having to play
on Thursday night. I wanted to see Demko on the
road again, a place that they had gotten the best

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of him, had those Jets with a different quarterback last year.
I wanted to see could they crush an air quote
inferior team on the road. Now they did versus the Patriots,
that matters. Could you go do it when you got
that dude a Hall of Fame on the other sideline
and not a kid making his first career start Drake
made in New England.

Speaker 8 (01:01:58):
I think also the situation into like it becomes like
in that second half the Jets smell blood in the water.

Speaker 1 (01:02:06):
They go, this is dire, guys. Our season is over
if we lose this, no question.

Speaker 8 (01:02:11):
So you get a desperate team and you let them
hang around. I mean they just made more places, but no,
you gotta go match that energy. That's what coaching is.
You gotta go match the energy and you've gotta be
as thirsty, hungry, desperate as the other team or more.
Did you hear the part where Kirk kirk Street said, yeah,

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I talked to CJ on the field before the game.
I said, hey, brother, how you feeling? He said, Man,
I'm banged up? Like kind of like it was intimating
like a bunch of injuries.

Speaker 1 (01:02:42):
Here.

Speaker 6 (01:02:42):
They've been knocking his ass around for weeks. And it's
not just hits on the quarterback. It's not just sex.
This is now three consecutive weeks the opposing defensive unit
has double digits tackles for loss. They are holding a
press conference in the backfield of the Houston Texans and

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Dimiko has gone from it'll be okay, toy, he's gonna
make a change.

Speaker 1 (01:03:08):
What change are you going to make? Really, coach, I.

Speaker 6 (01:03:11):
Don't believe you're gonna bench Tonso you're not gonna bench Tighters.
If you were gonna move Titus back to left guard,
you would have done it going into this game. Now
Kenya Green can't go out there because his shoulder is
likely dangling. You ain't You drafted Juice Grudgs in the
second round to play center.

Speaker 1 (01:03:27):
You're not moving him. You pay Shaq.

Speaker 6 (01:03:29):
Shaq's got two Super Bowl rings. Whole bunch of starts
started every game for you last year right guard. You
ain't moving, Shaq.

Speaker 8 (01:03:35):
Where's the change going to coc Maybe maybe you just
have practice to sake, got SOPA competition, but Tunsel barely
practices as it is, and.

Speaker 6 (01:03:44):
Look, Tonsel had to lead a game for a series.
I saw Blake Fisher in there. Get out and get
you some experience, young guy.

Speaker 1 (01:03:51):
It's just this is I know. I'm com kJ, I'm coming.
I'm sorry.

Speaker 6 (01:03:56):
I just got so much stuff I want to get to.
This is the first time that Domico Ryans has fallen
out of favor with the fan base. No one's talking
about firing, and of course we love our dude, but
in terms of like, yo, you are not the bell
of the ball right now, Coach, I understand it's hard
to do. You get paid a lot of money and

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you're built for it. I have the utmost confidence that
this team will get into the postseason and at that point,
how healthy are they and who will they play will
determine how they go from there.

Speaker 1 (01:04:28):
But between now and the end.

Speaker 6 (01:04:29):
Of the season, end of the regular season, coach, you
got you have to go make a statement.

Speaker 1 (01:04:36):
You have to.

Speaker 6 (01:04:37):
I don't know if that's offensive line coach Chris Strassa.
I don't know if that's sitting down Tunzel. I don't
know if that's changing the offensive line around. I don't
know if that's going to get and likely is going
to get more weaponry at the wide receiver position. I
don't know what if it's demoting Bobby for a game
and getting Bill Laser, who's over there as an offensive
assistant part of putting the game playing together, Bill Laser

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been an OC in this league before. Do you demote
Bobby and you elevate Bill Laser for a game as
a COOC? I don't know, but you gotta figure it out, coach,
because if you keep things status quo, your quarterback is
not gonna walk off the field under his own power.

Speaker 8 (01:05:14):
Now I'm not wishing that. I hate to speak that,
but we're watching the games.

Speaker 6 (01:05:20):
C J.

Speaker 1 (01:05:20):
Stroud is getting up slower and slower and slower. He
is hurting it is.

Speaker 6 (01:05:29):
It is egregiously irresponsible to keep putting him out there
behind that. OKKJ, I'm ready.

Speaker 7 (01:05:41):
I got enough money and sat your kidd it druck
because I might y'all might get a couple of FCC
violations on this red.

Speaker 1 (01:05:49):
Go ahead, brother ya, good morning team.

Speaker 7 (01:05:51):
Oh again, it's usually them go I'm gonna tell you
something real quick. Last night I was having my family
watching my son football the South Fair for the Distey
champion and they won. Shout out to South Fair Champions.
So while I'm watching the game, my mood instantly shifted
because while I'm watching the game, I got my earbuds.

(01:06:12):
Shout out to the Ardissey app listened to the game
on Odisse app and uh I got upset, so I
couldn't even fully appreciate the victory that my son and
his team pulled off last night. My other sons in
time from the Air Force.

Speaker 1 (01:06:26):
He was visiting.

Speaker 7 (01:06:26):
So after the game, we sharply went to Blue Scott
Lowndes Cigar Lounges had enough nice crown on ice.

Speaker 1 (01:06:35):
Yeah, a little patrol action. Yeah, out shout out to
Blue Scott.

Speaker 7 (01:06:39):
I couldn't appreciate that for it because I was still
listening to the Texans game. This has trickled over into
my day to day lifting. So I'm upset with the
Houston Texans right now. Hear what I'm saying. Listen real quick,
do you guys recall the played that occurred right when
Will Anderson got hurt. Propertly before Will Anderson got hurt,

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line is affecting this team in other areas. The play
right before Will Andison got hurt was the fumble that
the offensive line gave up the pressure and CJ. Stroud
came off the ball that the line issue. Promptly after
that play was the play that Will Anderson got hurted.
So they're affecting us in other areas and I'm looking
at the offensive line and all their shortcomings, and I'm

(01:07:23):
also looking at the fact that Demiko Rans and Nick
Cassirio signed out on retaining all of these guys. This
offensive line. Look, I hate to be the dead horse,
because the horse ain't dead, but the horse is decomposed
at this point. You know what I'm saying. But this
is atrocious And like you said, Stan, I think you
hit it at it too.

Speaker 1 (01:07:45):
CG.

Speaker 7 (01:07:46):
You are ultimately gonna put this franchise in a situation
where we're gonna lose CJ Stold for the season to
some sort of injury. And as an organization, from a
collective US standpoint, this team is very talented, but the
offense can't execute. The defense can't get off the field,
you can't rest because the offensive line can't properly do

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that job. And at some point, again I'm I'm not
saying anything. You guys haven't seen it on the other collars.
At some point this offensive line is gonna cause antuch
a major issue to the point of reasons, gonna lose
Joe Mixing and or CJ crowd and our season is
gonna be watched. So until that done, we missed weon't
get ready to do this every Monday until this offensive
line issue was addressed, because until that happens, we're not

(01:08:29):
gonna get a good product on the field, and we
as fans are not gonna be able to appreciate them
boys on Kirby properly because of the tonsu to Howwards,
the Mason's and all those of the world.

Speaker 6 (01:08:38):
Man, let the show, guys, y'all, let's sit back and
listen my man kJ and Cyprus. Let's go to break Gordon,
I mean the phone lines are loaded. I mean, I
got so much other so I'm gonna have to hold
some of that for me and Ross on the Matt
Thomas Show until then thirty more minutes that we do that,
Gordon and I will continue doing.

Speaker 1 (01:08:54):
Next up, Who we got? We got?

Speaker 6 (01:08:56):
Would I see Mowen Baytown. There's James Frank on the
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Speaker 6 (01:09:18):
Man, I'm so pissed off, I almost forgot his Friday.
Appreciate everybody hanging out with us on a Friday. Man,
y'all saw what happened last night. The whole nation did.
Oh great news. There are two more consecutive nationally televised games.
Gordon next, not this Sunday, Next Sunday, obviously Sunday Night
Football Battle Red Day over at NRG. Here comes the Lions,

(01:09:41):
the best team in the NFC by record.

Speaker 8 (01:09:44):
Oh, maybe the whole nation didn't. The whole nation doesn't
have Amazon Prime, so the whole nation watched that game.

Speaker 1 (01:09:50):
No they didn't. Well, Jerry, people are on trick or
treating with their kids NFL. Let's stay head on your
cell phone. You're all holding the hands of a trick
or treater.

Speaker 6 (01:09:58):
I was at a venue baby k was getting his
Halloween on, so I had to, you know, have my
screens up streaming on my phone, and then they had
it on multiple screens in the venue I was in.

Speaker 1 (01:10:09):
I got work to do. Gordon, All right, let's go
to the phone lines, man.

Speaker 6 (01:10:11):
People been waiting to get in and event we'll try
and power through these wood on the north side.

Speaker 1 (01:10:16):
You're next up, my bro Yello.

Speaker 13 (01:10:19):
And this was sad Sney I see why people give
up they season tickets. I mean, they are broken teams.
Kyle LNA was a broken team last year. We give
teams hope, we give them the belief that they can
still win. You have people in the stands with paper
bags on their heads. The first half, they was confused,

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they was hopeless. They had nothing going for themselves. And
then we let an old man looking like Custer's on
guns smoke run through our defense a line, you know,
and then that give them hope.

Speaker 16 (01:10:57):
Next thing, you know, at third and nineteen, he throw
the ball up like it's a hell marrit and get
a touchdown. And now they't have belief. And so let's
go to the offense.

Speaker 15 (01:11:11):
Now.

Speaker 16 (01:11:11):
I keep telling everybody CJ should have been working on
his game in that office, a line of getting him
the cat. Whoa whoa, Who's gonna tell you right now
what's going off?

Speaker 1 (01:11:22):
What? Whoa wha wha whoah woah.

Speaker 6 (01:11:24):
Would No, we're not gonna do that now. We're not
gonna say CJ should have been working on his game.
He was playing in celebrity softball games. And CJ does
not basketball. CJ does not pass it.

Speaker 8 (01:11:37):
Bringing Amber Rose back to her hotel. You know what
CJ should have been doing studying his playbook. No, CJ
should have been taking Kenyan Green. How do we get
more weight on you so that you can anchor?

Speaker 6 (01:11:47):
Because you do know coming up in week nine, Quinn
Williams is gonna knock your damn head off again.

Speaker 1 (01:11:51):
Quinny Williams.

Speaker 6 (01:11:52):
By the way, we start talking about interior pressure, Quinn
Williams single handedly destroyed that offensive line in the first quarter.
He was an absolute and he was just taking turns.
Do I want Shack? Do I want Kenyon? Do I
want Juice?

Speaker 1 (01:12:09):
Hell? One time I thought I saw them line them
up out there by lam Me. I said, damn, they're
just letting Quinny Williams pick whoever he wants the bolo.

Speaker 8 (01:12:17):
Yeah, I didn't see who who got beat but or
who who got the wind. But Kenyan Green with on
that the CJ stride when they're down there eleven and
he gets hitting fumbles, that was Kenyon Green's guy comes
right up.

Speaker 6 (01:12:30):
Of course it will It's probably Quentin Williams. Moe and
Baytown get in here, bro.

Speaker 16 (01:12:36):
Man, what was going on yesterday?

Speaker 8 (01:12:38):
Man?

Speaker 3 (01:12:39):
I felt like I was watching The Little Giants for movie.

Speaker 6 (01:12:42):
I mean the bad offensive line, the quarterback. The quarterback
does not trust the offensive line. The offensive line is bad.
And when you take superstars relatively speaking, like Nico Collins
and Steph Diggs off the field difference makers. Tank isn't
that guy yet. He can have those moments, but Tank

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ain't gonna carry you a game. Steph has done it,
Nico has done it. So all they had yesterday was
was Tank on occasion and Joe Mixon. And when the
offensive line in blocking, none of that, believe it matters.
And then O by you way your defense. Let Aaron
Rodgers get a hold of that thing and recipe for disaster.

Speaker 1 (01:13:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:13:23):
I mean, if we can't be Kansas City or the Lions,
I mean we just forget about even getting close.

Speaker 1 (01:13:32):
I mean, it's it's ridiculous.

Speaker 16 (01:13:35):
I mean, I was rich disappointed yesterday.

Speaker 3 (01:13:38):
And I mean, dangre Gona ain't doing what happened to
Devid Carr in two thousand and two when the Texans
established themselves seventy six sacks in a year. That's what
we're headed, that's what we're headed forward with Stroud.

Speaker 6 (01:13:49):
I mean, it's ugly, my man, Mowen Beaytown can't dispute there.
They're gonna have to protect Stroud, James and Klein. Let's
talk to some ball.

Speaker 5 (01:13:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:14:00):
Disappointed with Dalton Shultch esterday. I didn't think he put
it on a very good performance. Interesting.

Speaker 6 (01:14:08):
Yeah, Now to your point, I thought the tight ends
could have a big day, both him and Katee Stover.

Speaker 1 (01:14:13):
Oh no, I got that in my notes. K Stover?
Where you at?

Speaker 6 (01:14:16):
You got a penalty? I gotta call you out. Where
did I see k Stover? Somewhere in there? Stover had
a penalty. It took away a big play from somebody.
I have to go find it somewhere in there. Nonetheless,
I thought it could be a big day.

Speaker 1 (01:14:27):
No CJ.

Speaker 6 (01:14:27):
Moseley, both starting safeties out. I thought the middle of
the field would be right. I thought Dalton Schultz and
Stover could have a big day. Gordon combined. How many
catches from those two? Let me see this here. Schultz
had three catches for twenty one yards. Stover didn't have
a damn catch at home. Both tight ends combined for
three catches with no nico and no step on the field.

(01:14:50):
I do appreciate Dalton Schultz on the sideline, little toe
drag swag there. I'm glad that the Texans got up
to the line and got the ball off Gordon. I
think if they had gone to review. I don't know
that the shorts caught that ball with two feet, but
good observation by you, James. I'll take that. Wasn't really
impressed with how Bobby used the tight ends on last night.
Who is this Frank on the north side? Fire away.

Speaker 1 (01:15:17):
Frank?

Speaker 6 (01:15:19):
All right, I'm gonna put Frank on whole. Sounds like
he got a little something with his line. Uh, here
we go, let's go to Let's get biscuit in each town.
What up?

Speaker 12 (01:15:30):
Hey, staying how you're doing it.

Speaker 17 (01:15:33):
Let's not overreact.

Speaker 1 (01:15:34):
Then you.

Speaker 17 (01:15:37):
Were sounding an alarm before the game, and rightfully, soul
six and three stands. They do have some issues. No, no,
let me let me, let me, let me freak.

Speaker 1 (01:15:47):
They had some issues.

Speaker 17 (01:15:49):
But to me, it's more of philosophy need to be
changed because your off of the line is not gonna
get any better. It may get a little better, but
it's not. It's like the Jets did this second half sheet.
He has got to start going more to the backs
and tight ends. He's looking down the field too long.

Speaker 14 (01:16:07):
He took a couple of sacks.

Speaker 17 (01:16:08):
One took them how the field gonna raine. The other
one made the field go longer. He has got to
start getting rid.

Speaker 7 (01:16:13):
Of the ball.

Speaker 17 (01:16:13):
I understand he wants they want to. I don't know
what the percentage is, but I guarantee most of the
passes TJ throws are to the wide out and the
tight ends, and the backs need to come into play.
It's got to get shorter.

Speaker 6 (01:16:29):
Oh my bad. I was a little quick there, but
I'm looking at the clock. We gotta ride biscuit. I
understand your point, Gordon, do you anticipate moving forward a
shift in philosophy? All I know is Quinn Williams has
a philosophy I'm gonna knock your ass back three yards,
regardless of who you put in front of me. That's
the philosophy he seems to play with everybody else. Brian
Floores his defense seem to have a philosophy, We're gonna

(01:16:51):
knock your ass back. When I think about the Chicago
Bears defensive unit, the Green Bay Pack, everybody that plays
the Texans appear to have the same philosophy. We're gonna
want you to physically make you go in the direction
you don't want to go. I'm waiting for the Texans
to have that same energy from an offensive line standpoint.
Do you believe as we go to break, by the
time the Lions game gets here a week from Sunday,

(01:17:13):
the emphasis will be less on tank excuse me, less
on tank and if Niko is back, and more on
shorter intermediate throws.

Speaker 1 (01:17:22):
No me need.

Speaker 8 (01:17:24):
I think they can think Kenyon Green start a left guard,
but that might be out of necessity or I'm sorry,
kenriand because Kenyon Green may have that Childer injury made.

Speaker 6 (01:17:33):
So Demiko says change and you say the only change
will be who's that left guard? Yeah, sadly, not that
you're saying it, but sadly you're probably right. All right,
let's come back and close out the show. Michae Linn
the Heights, who is that call? And Sugarland will do
Renfro and most City will close this thing out. Get

(01:17:54):
ready for Matt Thomas and Ross. Actually I'm in for
Matt That first hour Sports Talk seven ninety with.

Speaker 4 (01:18:00):
Your don next stup Pitchers tremble with fear.

Speaker 1 (01:18:04):
You right all the rest o the on comptree right.

Speaker 4 (01:18:07):
Over with Northfleet and Gordion. Next up, bellies tremble with hunger.
Lunchtime is so close until then chow down on more.
Next up.

Speaker 6 (01:18:23):
I wish I had two guards, one for the left
and one for the right of CJ.

Speaker 1 (01:18:27):
Stroud. Damn, I wish they were block block blocking, damn.

Speaker 6 (01:18:34):
Man, I got my man, that's what CJ's head.

Speaker 1 (01:18:36):
Is doing this morning, ring ring ring it. Damn.

Speaker 8 (01:18:41):
You didn't think they're that first drive, No, he was like,
the pocket was there and he was bailing, and I'm like, CJ,
you have a pot, Like I get it later in
the game.

Speaker 1 (01:18:51):
He didn't.

Speaker 8 (01:18:52):
No, with that first drive, no bucket. He goes to
run and he runs right into.

Speaker 6 (01:18:57):
Where le winning Williams. The first series, Quinn Williams told CJ.
It's not happening in the day. Is shook and it's okay.
You should be shook.

Speaker 8 (01:19:09):
On the first steps there, have you seen the previous
eight weeks that.

Speaker 1 (01:19:14):
The game has just started. You don't even know what
the defense. You know the defense is coming. Quinn Williams
is the one that can cut your ass.

Speaker 6 (01:19:20):
Last year, same dude, except he's big and batter and
he knows wait a minute, not only judge y'all had
a nerve last year to put rookie Juice Scrugs in
front of me. Y'all got the audacity the parade Kenyon
Green's Ans out here in front of me.

Speaker 1 (01:19:33):
CJ. You know what, I'm gonna take the disrespect out
on your ass.

Speaker 6 (01:19:37):
Think about that last year they started the Texans did
Juice Scrugs had left guard. Quinn Williams had a field day.
This year they're going to parade Kenyon Green out there.
All of that film that we watch. Y'all do know
that the Jets watched that same tape. The Jets had

(01:19:58):
to be looking at that tape going, oh, yeah, it's
a that game Kenyon Green and Juice together. Oh I
already pumped the center. I definitely can get a hold
of his new guard. Whoever, this dude is, how do
we uh that fell scheduling?

Speaker 8 (01:20:11):
How does that work out where you end up playing
the same venue two years in a row?

Speaker 1 (01:20:16):
Not sure?

Speaker 8 (01:20:17):
How do they not alter altern any thing and go
all right, well you're gonna play the Jets, but this time.

Speaker 1 (01:20:21):
You're gonna get them in your house. I don't know.
Michael in the Heights man, let's talk Texas a couple
of minutes here.

Speaker 18 (01:20:28):
So look, I got good news, guys. I just got
off the phone with the district attorney and they're gonna
file attempted murder charges on the entire offensive line, so.

Speaker 6 (01:20:38):
Negligence ussory, they were accessory.

Speaker 14 (01:20:44):
This tame sucks.

Speaker 18 (01:20:45):
I mean, what are we doing?

Speaker 1 (01:20:46):
Like that's that's strong? Yeah?

Speaker 12 (01:20:48):
Whoa?

Speaker 6 (01:20:50):
And I know I can say this to you, Michael,
because we're boys. Well, let's be clear. This team doesn't suck.
It looked terrible last night. They're going want to win
the AFC. Sound okay, if you get into the dance,
they're likely going to host at least a playoff game
in the first round of wildcard round.

Speaker 1 (01:21:11):
I'm not bailing on the team yet.

Speaker 18 (01:21:14):
Well, Irish, but look, you know the the Vante Adams dude,
he was knocked out, like he was literally knocked out.

Speaker 1 (01:21:22):
I didn't think he was asleep, No.

Speaker 18 (01:21:25):
He was asleep, but look at again, his body went
dead for a second and he and he woke up
and then they took him back and they're like, oh yeah,
they asked him a what day is it? And he
goes three. I know, but look the Jalen Petris touchdown.

Speaker 9 (01:21:40):
He gave up.

Speaker 18 (01:21:40):
That wasn't on him, dude, he's a safety. He was
on DeVante Adams an he tripped and then he's wide open,
and it's like, come on, man, call a time out.
What are you doing? Like you're one on one with
Davanta Adams with Jalen Peacher. Jalen Petrie is a run stuffer.
He's not a cover guy. What are we doing?

Speaker 1 (01:21:53):
Man?

Speaker 6 (01:21:54):
So I said earlier, show what they could have done
in that situation. If the MIKO or a player on
the field, who whoever had the green dot, I'm assuming
that was nevill Hewett never here, should have looked at
the formation and he and p Tray should have had
some conversation, and they should have looked at the personnel.

Speaker 1 (01:22:10):
And you simply call time out period.

Speaker 18 (01:22:15):
I mean saying if they don't make it, they have
to make a trade. And so like I've noticed, like
CJ was throwing like bald and DN zone to the
running backs, like we just don't have anybody to broach
it right now, Like they need to get a receiver,
an offensive tide here their defensive backs. They didn't have
to double team anybody. All they do is sit there,
just wait for the vault, you know what I mean,
it's like and then their passwords is so good. It

(01:22:36):
just it was ridiculous. It was just their defense showed
up and beat us down, and hey, it is what
it is. But I don't know, man, I'm disappointed. Have
a good weekend, my man.

Speaker 1 (01:22:46):
Mike, have a good weekend.

Speaker 17 (01:22:47):
Brother.

Speaker 6 (01:22:47):
We got ten days to figure it out. I will
say this, Gordon, the Nicko Archery had that game. The
Nico Archery I thought was a player in the first half.
Both his sacks came in the first half, and then
we didn't hear from Archery and more after that that
I can recall daneil Hunter. I don't remember seeing Daniel
Hunt in the second half. Who else are some of

(01:23:09):
those guys? Henry told Toe a excellent place sniffing out
the screen pass to Breze Hall early in that first quarter.
One of those two opening drives for green Bay, I
mean for green Bay, Lord for the Jets and Rogers
green Bay, y'all know what I'm doing. But then they
run the same play in the second half and Henry
care get there and there's Breeze Home out the gate
cutting back against the green Do you feel me on

(01:23:33):
that g like. I don't think the Texans are awful.
I think they have some clear holes. But I think
they've done enough, They stacked enough wins that they're going
to at least limp into the postseason. And we've seen
teams limp into the postseason and do.

Speaker 8 (01:23:52):
Some real dama. I don't think it's that bad. I
like it because look at the backstretch your schedule. I mean, yeah,
we're getting that ridiculous stretch of Miami, Kansas City in Baltimore.
But you still play the Titans twice, you still get Jacksonville,
you still get the Cowboys, who are a mess. So
I mean I think they're they're gonna have one of
the Badbody said the Jets were a mess until last night. Okay,

(01:24:13):
but if that game's but if that game is in
Houston last night, I think the Texans won.

Speaker 1 (01:24:17):
Gordy, they gotta go to Dallas. They gotta go to Jacksonville.
Ain't nobody scared of going to Dallas. Yeah, they have
wins on the season.

Speaker 8 (01:24:25):
Dallas will make this Dallas team right now, will make
Kenyan Green look all pro.

Speaker 6 (01:24:29):
Garrett Wilson did that to them? What do you think,
Ceedee Lamb can do.

Speaker 8 (01:24:33):
I ain't worried about ceedee lamb, dude got paid and said,
let me kick my feet up this dismissive. Yes that
you've been on Detroit, I'm more worried about you lose
to have your six and four. You're then closer to
six hundred than you are, best record in the league,
n from and most City. Give me twenty seconds.

Speaker 7 (01:24:51):
Well, all that I've been tweaking it all week, body shoulder,
I just don't think that he's there.

Speaker 1 (01:25:00):
Yeah, he's that, you know, offoson.

Speaker 7 (01:25:02):
Matter what it is, you got to get that ball
on real fast, and it's just not happening.

Speaker 16 (01:25:06):
So that's my that's my take, and you know, I'm
just gonna stick with it for a while.

Speaker 6 (01:25:11):
My man Ren FROMO City. Thank you so much, brother,
Thanks to all of you that called in. I know
it's only two hours. We can't get to everybody call
and sugar Land if you want to hold maybe Ross
will grab you.

Speaker 1 (01:25:20):
On the other side.

Speaker 6 (01:25:21):
I will join Ross for the first hour of the
Matt Thomas Show for Connadie mcgovernor, Chris, Gordy stan Fleet.
All of you that have called in today, God bless
you will appreciate you.

Speaker 1 (01:25:30):
I know it sucks. The kids got their candy.

Speaker 6 (01:25:33):
Let's just enjoy and celebrate the kids over the weekend. Texans,
you got ten days to lick your wounbs and get
back at it. Domko says, change, okay, Obama, let me
see it. God willing, We'll say y'all a Monday, y'all
be were