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July 11, 2025 66 mins

In this episode of Nine Centered, Teresa and James explore the deeply personal terrain of deconditioning through the lens of Primary Health System (PHS), Cognition, and Embodiment in Human Design.

Drawing from their own lived experiences, they unpack how these elements have shaped their growth, health, and relationships, offering real-life examples and gentle guidance for those navigating their deconditioning process.

What We Cover:

PHS as a Portal to Somatic Healing

  • Nervous Touch (Teresa): How her need for stimulation shows up in meals, relationships, and learning—and how background café sounds became a surprising support for digestion and well-being.

  • Low Sound (James): His journey from misidentifying his determination to understanding the relief of quieter environments and warm, full-bodied sounds.

  • PHS & Trauma: Why PHS work often brings up childhood conditioning and how to meet it with patience and compassion.

  • Observing Children: James reflects on how children naturally honor their determination when allowed the space to do so.

Cognition as a Subtle Inner Guide

  • Feeling Cognition (Teresa): Becoming more attuned to emotional undercurrents and how it supports intuitive perception.

  • Touch Cognition (James): Exploring the layers of connection—from food to energetic boundaries—and the pain of disconnection.

  • The Solar Plexus Connection: Both hosts tie their cognitions to the evolving role of the Solar Plexus in relationship, emotional awareness, and nervous system attunement.

Embodiment & the Feminine Principle in Deconditioning

  • Why Embodiment Matters: Moving beyond mental understanding to felt experience: why deconditioning requires slowness, softness, and body awareness.

  • Transference & Compassion: Naming the pull toward conditioned behaviors and how to discern between a mental loop and an embodied truth.

  • The Feminine Lens: Surrender, flow, and receptivity as essential ingredients in this work, especially in a culture conditioned toward force and control.


This episode brings awareness to the questions...Are you listening to your body—or trying to control the process?
Can you trust your system to show you the way—without force?


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