Job Hopping + Good Chats!

In this week's episode, Katie and Lauryn chat about their extensive job histories + have a rambly chat! 

Episode Transcript

(00:07):
Hello.
Hello, hello.
Welcome back to the pod backagain.
Again, again.
Back Um, I have a life update.
All right.
Hit me with it.
Okay.
So I got remember last week whenwe were talking about New Year's
and goals, and I said, I gotthis really cool journal.

(00:28):
Yeah.
I got in the mail.
Yes.
And it asks for your word forthe year.
And in the past, I've alwaysgiven a word.
Oh.
And this year I've, I did not doa word, but do you know those
little, um, word searches onInstagram that are like the
first three words that you seeYeah.
Are gonna be 20, 23?
Yeah.
Every single time I've done, Ikid you not every single time.

(00:49):
I've done probably 20 of them.
Every single time I've done one.
Connection has always been oneof the words.
Connection.
Connection.
And so, As I was doing this lastnight, I started my journal and
I was like, it has to be theword connection.
And so I put like, I want toconnect with myself more this
year.
I wanna connect with like Godand my faith more.

(01:11):
Oh, nice.
I wanna connect with naturemore.
I wanna connect with likefriends and family and just like
other people on my TikTok moreand like bring that community.
Yeah.
What a good word, huh.
I love that.
I was gonna ask you too, howdoes that, um, interpret into
your life?
Cause I'm like, interestingword.
How does that, every time I sawthat word, I was like, why, why
this word?
Like what does that mean?

(01:31):
Like it wasn't really jumpingout to you.
Like you immediately like hadsome sort of Yeah.
Oh, this is what I think itmeans.
Yeah.
Like the other ones like, oh,health and purpose or whatever.
I'm like, oh great.
No connection.
So that's my word for 20, 20,30.
You kind of got to like sit onit a little bit.
I gotta sit, which I love thisjournal you guys.

(01:52):
Um, I think it's called theartist.
of Life Workbook.
We need to do like, put like alink together for like all the
things that we like talk about.
So you can put that there.
Like the books we talk about.
Yeah.
Actually I'll link all of this,um, in our, uh, description.
Yeah.
So it's called the, I think theshop is like the Lavender,
lavender Shop.
Mm-hmm.

(02:12):
And I love it.
It's been so good so far.
So I gave Lauren A.
Little video update when I gotit.
Nice.
Um, yeah, I did see It looksreally cool.
Yeah.
It's so cute.
So that's my word.
I didn't think I was gonna havea word for this year.
Mm-hmm.
Um, but that was my word.
Yeah.
And that's my life update.
Love.
Do you likes that?
Not, not new.
How's your New Year's Eve?

(02:33):
My New Year's Eve, it was reallygood.
I had to work, but I mean, Igotta make that money, honestly.
Yeah.
I like just started a new job.
So this is your year for themoney?
It is.
I'm like, the money.
Money is, I'm trying to beclocked in always.
Yeah, you really are.
You're like, I literally don'teven care.
Like, where are you Lauren?

(02:53):
I'm at work.
Yeah, a hundred percent.
That's what I'm doing.
Um, I know Lauren's two days offand that's when we do everything
And other than that, I don't seeher.
I'm like, ADIO, see you nextweek.
Bye Um, but yeah, it was good.
I got drunk.
Yeah.
I threw her up.
Yeah.
And sent me some.
I have the depression andanxiety feels on Sunday, so I
think I'll be sober the rest ofthe Yeah.

(03:14):
She's like, we're not bigdrinkers, either one of us are.
No.
Like we're, we're just, we'rereally casual.
I'm a social drinker, likesocial drinker.
Yeah.
That's the word.
Yeah.
And we are casual about it too.
Yeah.
It's very like, um, it doesn'ttake much, first of all, it
doesn't take much.
I feel like two is my sweetspot.
Yeah.
Like two beers, two margaritas.
Oh no.
Some of these cocktails that I'dbe drinking are strong.

(03:35):
Yeah.
Maybe one, one and a half.
That's what I'm saying.
I'm like, I thought that I wasgood if I ate something, but
actually I'm a lightweight andthat's okay.
Yeah.
I'm a really big lightweightand, Yeah.
So maybe not the most ideal wayto start my 2023.
I am kind of beating myself upabout it.
You've gotta stop beatingyourself about I have to about
that.
And I keep, I think I'm beatingmyself up too, because I'm
putting a lot of pressure onmyself this year.

(03:57):
Yeah.
And so if something goes wrong,I'm like, it's the it, but it's,
it's literally fine.
I've gotta stop doing that.
You do.
You really do.
I really do.
Stop being so hard on yourself.
Oops, sorry.
But can we just talk aboutreally quickly.
how horrible you feel when youdrink alcohol.
I know.
It's so bad.
Like that's why I prefer otherthings.

(04:18):
Yeah.
In not drinking because it, it,it's the worst feeling is the
worst feeling.
And I like to drink during theday too.
For that reason.
I would much rather drink earlya brunch, like have mimosa.
Mm-hmm.
and Yeah.
Be, because here's what gets me.
It's the laying down at night.
That's when I feel the worst,and that's when I feel like I
need to throw up.
Yeah.

(04:38):
It's, it sucks.
It's not when you're out, it'sliterally when you And I didn't
drink any water.
Oh.
And so it was just a badcombination.
Yes.
But that, that's exactly why Ilike to drink at brunch too.
Yeah.
Because ago, yeah.
Like I'll sit there, get mydrinks in, and if I'm drunk,
like, and if I fall asleep, I'llwake up and it's like six
o'clock and I'm like, oh, wellthat was over.

(05:01):
Dinner, shower, sleep.
Yeah.
Literally.
Yeah.
Like, it's completely fine.
But drinking at night.
Mm-hmm.
not that good.
It just gives you the, thecooking at night.
Yeah.
I just feel like it gives youbad, yeah.
Anxiety or depression and youknow, like I used to when I was
younger, like when I was likefirst turned 21.
I used to feel really guilty fornot being like, what?

(05:24):
Apparently is being, but it'slike a typical, typical 21 year
old.
Yeah.
Like going out all the time andlike drinking and clubbing,
whatever.
That's never been me.
No.
Never.
I've gone out more as I'vegotten older.
actually I have to.
Yeah.
But it's like to, I kind of knowwhat spaces I like to be in.
Same.
I like a bar.
Yep.
Lounge kind of vibe.

(05:46):
Yes.
Not a burb.
I like day things.
Yes.
I'm such an old woman.
Geez.
No, I am too.
I feel the same way.
I like don't wanna be out atnight hardly ever Do you know
what I aspire to be?
What?
Someone who is like cookingtheir own dinner with a glass of
wine.
Yes.
Like very sophisticated, maturevibes.
I mean, very mature.
Yeah.
I'm not trying to get drunk andsloppy in a club.

(06:09):
Yeah.
And even though I think a goodsloppy moment in an intimate
setting is awesome.
I think sometimes I thinkeveryone needs at least one
drunk, sloppy moment.
Yeah.
And then be done you like Ican't do that on a consistent
basis.
No.
Yeah.
I just feel like I don't wanna,I don't wanna throw up because
of alcohol.
Oh no.
Anymore this year.

(06:30):
No, absolutely not.
Cause I think my cutoff is too,I don't think I've ever actually
thrown up from alcohol.
I have a lot.
I'm not gonna lie, because whenI had a gallbladder, I'm about
to say that.
You had a Yeah, it was mygallbladder.
Yeah.
So my gallbladder, likesomething was not right with
that.
No.
The worst thing that happens tome, that I've noticed is, um, my
voice gets really raspy.

(06:51):
I like lose my voice when Idrink a lot.
Really?
Mm-hmm.
if I'm not mistaken, I looked itup.
Cause I was like, is this like acorrelation?
Like, am I dumb or Yeah.
Is this just happening wheneverI'm, you know, drinking?
Yeah.
Something about like drying out.
My vocal chords or somethingweird like that from the
alcohol.
Yeah, something like that.

(07:11):
I need to have a game plan goinginto all inclusives, because I
don't know, I don't wanna get sodrunk.
Here's the thing.
I wanna be continuously drinkingprobably.
And I think that's whenever youneed to drink water in between
water.
Like I'm sure that's why mostpeople go to an all-inclusive,

(07:32):
they'll probably drunk the wholetime.
Yeah.
I don't know.
It'll be really fun.
who, who knows how that's gonnago?
Who knows?
I don't, I dunno.
I, it'll be fun.
I'm hard to think about it toomuch.
I just know if I, if I don'tthrow up I'll, it'll be a
success.
Cause for some reason, wheneverI'm drinking, my whole thing is
if I don't throw up.

(07:52):
We're good.
We're good.
Yeah.
But I start panicking when Ithrow up.
I have like a phobia throw up.
I don't know.
Um, so I'm someone who wouldrather just get it over with and
just be sick and like, be done.
Anyways, guys, anyways, sorryfor that discussion.
Um, okay, so we're reallyexcited because next week we're
going to a book club.
Mm-hmm.
Kenzie, Elizabeth's book club.

(08:13):
Mm-hmm.
And we're gonna drive there.
It's gonna be so fun.
We're gonna have a little onenight vacation.
A cute little girls trips.
Cute little girls trip.
Really fun.
I'm so excited.
And we have the cutest hotel.
I'm so excited.
Such a cute hotel.
And we're gonna just have agreat time.
But we want y'all to read thisbook.
It is, it's been, yes.
Honestly, didn't think I would,I asked Lauren.

(08:34):
Mm-hmm.
I was like, is this book spooky?
Because I don't wanna be readingit by myself.
Yeah.
I'm scared.
No, it's, it's not spooky atall.
It's just like, very.
It's like what's going on?
Investigative Yeah.
Like what?
Like what is really going on?
And you're 50%, right?
I'm at 50%.
This morning when we weretexting and I started talking to
you, I was like, okay, if we'regonna talk about this, yeah.

(08:54):
I need to either not read orfind out where she's at so I
know if I'm like ahead of her ornot.
Cuz you were ahead of me for alittle bit last night.
I was ahead of you last nightand I was like, I will stay
ahead.
And then Lauren swooped in.
I knew though, because you hadoff today.
I was like, she's gonna, I wokeup and I read 10% of the book
and I was at 50 and I was like,okay, let me stop right here cuz

(09:17):
the last time I knew you were on30 something, 38.
And then I got to 42.
So I'm at 42 right now.
Such a good book, um, foranyone.
It'll be linked down below, butit's called 20 years later.
Mm-hmm.
by Charlie.
Don.
Leah, if you, I think this is, Imean, we don't really have any
spoilers, but if you like,haven't read the book yet, you
may wanna skip over this, butsay you skip just like a couple

(09:38):
minutes.
Yeah.
Um, we'll kind of be talkingabout it for a second, but, um,
my cat is screaming.
what?
Remy Okay.
So what do you think about thebook so far?
Um, so I really like it, um, andit's doing a really good job of
holding my attention, gettingthe story set up.

(09:58):
Yeah.
But keep like, but I'm not beinglike, okay, like, hurry up and
get to the point.
Yeah.
Because there's so many things.
Are you on the part where he,um, Walter or Walt, whatever
Walt I think is just his name.
Mm-hmm.
Walt.
Mm-hmm.
is, um, like he read about the,the autopsy thing again.
Um, um, I just got to the pointwhere him and.

(10:22):
what's her name?
A Megan?
No, Avery.
Avery.
Okay.
For some reason I almost saidAubrey.
Um, I just got to the pointwhere him and Avery just met.
Okay.
In the bar.
Okay.
And then, and you know what you,am I getting to a spicy part?
No, but like, cuz you're on thatpart.

(10:44):
Mm-hmm.
So like you saw where like, Ithink it's his perspective first
or something.
It's Yes.
Okay.
And he said that she wasattractive.
Yeah, I know.
He, he was like, I wasn'texpecting to like be, and then
she says that he's attractiveand I was like, I know Katie.
Literally I called it.
You did.
And I, I was like, what is shetalking about?
Are you not even thinking aboutthat at all?

(11:05):
No, I'm like, I'm like, they'regonna be and they're gonna fall
in love.
You think it's gonna be a thing?
I think so.
Yeah.
I think it has to be.
Um, I think they're gonna solveit together.
I think that's what's gonnahappen at first, honestly, I'm
gonna give you my honestopinion.
The book was a three at firstfor me cuz I was just like,
this.
For me, I get into big researchholes too.
I think that's where like myEnneagram four wing five comes

(11:27):
out.
Uhhuh in books because I'm like,I wanna know who are the
characters, what's go, like Ikinda wanna know the plot before
I even start reading.
When you don't have the fullpicture, you're like, yes, I
can't.
And in the beginning I was like,what the F is going on?
Mm-hmm.
like there's so many differentperspectives.
Every single chapter is a newlocation.
Like what is happening?
Yeah.
And then probably by like, itdidn't take very long, probably

(11:48):
chapter three.
I was like, okay, I'munderstanding more.
I'm getting this once.
Like Walt, we figured out whoWalt was and kind of him coming
back into the story, I gotreally hooked.
You know the thing that, cuzwhenever we were talking last
night, I think I said somethinglike, he said something that
caught my a attention.
I know what, what was that?
You're already past this now Ithink.

(12:09):
I'm pretty sure you are.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
So when he got to, um, New York.
Mm-hmm.
And he went to the policedepartment in that town.
Oh yeah.
And he went to the sheriff.
It's the same guy that was thereYeah.
20 years prior mm-hmm.
when he was put on the case andhe was working with them.
Yeah.
And when the guy gave him the,uh, the box with like the, um, I

(12:34):
guess it was just paperwork.
The evidence.
Yeah, like the evidence.
Yeah.
In the sheriff said somethinglike, you can have it for like
as long as you need it.
It's a like close case orwhatever.
And like the last sentence ofthat, um, chapter, Walt like had
the box and he said somethinglike, Basically saying, I don't

(12:55):
know why he said that.
Cause he knows it wasn't closed.
Oh.
And, but then I'm like, maybeI'm overthinking it because,
because of nine 11 happening.
Yeah.
It was like overshadowed byYeah.
That case, even though that casewas a really, it was huge.
Yeah.
And also I feel like the plotmakes it seem like it's more
about nine 11 than it really is.

(13:16):
I mean, it is about nine 11.
It does have that kind of,that's like the cover story kind
of.
Yeah.
That's like, no, it is.
And so that I didn't, I waslike, I don't wanna read a book
about nine 11.
I know.
Like, sad.
That's, that's part of why I waslike, do we really wanna do
this?
Because like, I don't want to, Idon't wanna, Yeah.
Absolutely not.
But it has proven to be a reallygood book.

(13:37):
I can't wait to read weed.
I can't read I can't wait toread more of it.
I feel like it's been a quickread too.
I'm like, and and it's crazy cuzit's almost, almost 400 pages.
Really?
I think, I think it's 355 pagesYou read 25% just yesterday.
Yeah.
So I know that if I can keepthat up, I'll be finished in
Well cause I read at work too,so that's part of why I'm like,

(13:59):
are you finish it tonight?
You think?
I really want to, I'm not goingto.
I don't think I can.
I'm not that fast reading.
I probably will be able to get,you're a faster reader than me.
Girl.
I'm, that's a fact.
Yeah, that's my thoughts.
I'm really excited.
I want to finish it, but I'm aslower reader than you.
Did you get to the part whereshe goes to the brownstone?

(14:20):
No.
In Brooklyn and the guy's like,I need$500?
No.
Oh, shit.
Okay.
No, I'm not there yet.
Uhuh.
Ooh, I, I'm getting to thepoint.
I think the next point, I wannaknow what the heck is going on
with, with her like, period.
I thought the part with him,with Walt and Cameron Young's.

(14:41):
Mm-hmm.
wife was odd.
Mm-hmm.
like, he was kind of pressingher a little bit, which I
understand the questions that hewas asking and stuff, and she
got kind of mad, which I wouldbe too.
But then again, I don't trusther.
I don't trust anyone yet.
I know.
Like, I really don't trust asingle person.
Like someone is being reallydeceptive.
Yes.
Can we talk about the fact thatAvery hates her dad, but what do
you think the 7 77 means?

(15:02):
You think he's in?
Um, I thought, I think he's inliving in one of the boats on
the dock.
Oh, at Connie Jackson's?
I, I maybe, but wouldn't you seehim?
No, it's in New York.
Oh.
She said he's not, I think, Ithink he's in New York, so I
think it's too, because shetalked about how he's.
living in the most obviousplace.
Yeah.

(15:23):
I just, I don't know why shewould help him, because whenever
they talked about it first, whenthe detective got Walt back and
he was like, I think she's gonnado something.
Mm-hmm.
I'm like, there's no way.
Like, yeah, they might find someinformation out from her, but
there's no way she's actuallygonna help out her dad.
I think that she is though,because I think she will too.
But in that moment, I didn'tthink she would.
Because you've gotten to thepart where, um, she goes to, uh,

(15:45):
Victoria's sister's house.
Yeah.
And like the sister's tellingher like, my sister's innocent.
Yeah.
Like, whatever.
I think, I think that she reallyis holding her dad.
I do, I really do.
I think she's been helping herdad too.
Y to a certain extent, yeah.
Okay.
And like, because he like Yeah.
Ran that Ponzi scheme.

(16:07):
Um, like they wanna arrest him,but they literally don't know
where he is.
Yeah.
And you think she, he, she knowswhere he is?
Yes.
Okay.
And then like, and the fact thatshe changed her name, and no
one's.
Yeah, no, that is, she'sliterally on national television
and people I know How are notpeople not putting two and two
together?
Well, I wonder, I I can't thinkof the timeline of when that

(16:30):
story came out about her dad.
That's the thing.
I think she was 28 you said.
Oh, okay.
She was older.
Yeah.
I don't know.
But she was in a very differentspot though.
It wasn't like she was always inthe limelight.
Yeah.
Technically.
No, you're right.
You know?
Mm-hmm.
So, um, y'all need to read thebook, is what we're trying to
say.
It's, it's pretty good.
Yeah.
And it would be fun to havey'all read the book and then

(16:54):
tell us your thoughts too.
Yeah, because it's really goodand I don't read thrillers a
lot, and this is the first oneI've read in a while.
Thrillers are so, yeah.
Good, because, I mean, I wentthrough a phase when I was in
high school where I read likemm-hmm.
thrillers and suspense.
And you changed your book goal?
I don't know, because it's stillsaying I'm on track and I
haven't finished a single bookyet.

(17:14):
Yeah, we're all on track, butI'm almost done.
I know, but usually it's likestart, it'll start to like here
in the next two days it'll belike planned.
Yeah.
After a week.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So I mean, I'm at 50, that'sjust four books a month.
I don't know, 75.
There's still a lot of books Icould not do.
75 or 175 to 80 might be the newgoal.
I think you should have 75because then you can, you've
been thinking about it and alsoyou can annotate and like kind

(17:37):
of take your time.
And I feel like when you have areally hard book goal, not that
I don't think you could reachit, cause I really definitely
think you could, but I think youwould settle on what type of
book you wanted to read.
Mm-hmm.
Like you would read smallerbooks just to finish the goal.
Exactly.
Instead of like books thatreally blow your mind.
I really want to like be moreintentional with the books.
Yes.
Yeah.
Yes.
And be able to plan it out.
Because you have to be strategicin a way.

(17:59):
Yeah.
In order to finish a hundredbooks because a hundred percent.
I definitely want to get intoaudiobooks, but like that's part
of how you get there isaudiobooks and books that are
like barely a hundred pages.
Yeah.
And Cause I could finish that inthe afternoon almost.
Yeah.
Oh, a hundred percent.
Yeah.
Like, I have a day off.
I'm gonna read this book, I'mfinishing it today.

(18:20):
Yeah.
Like I just feel like you can'tget like a full story in a
hundred pages.
I, yeah, well, you, you can and,and you know, it depends.
Um, yeah, just not a lot of likedescription, not any ones that I
would wanna read becauseaccording to my stats or
whatever, on Good Reads, I readreally long books.
Yeah.
I'm excited to start The SimpleWild or Magnolia Parks.
I think you should read SimpleWild.

(18:40):
I think I should, should.
I'm so excited.
I have the physical copy if youactually want that one instead
of No, I'll Kindle it.
You'll do the Kindle.
Okay.
Yeah, because I've just come tothe conclusion, I read Kindles
way faster.
I do too.
Probably because I take it withme in the bath.
Yep.
I take it to read like you canread in bed.
I read it in bed.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
And I don't need like my littlebook light.
I don't know why.
I just feel like.

(19:01):
Literally, I would not be as farwith the book we're reading now
if I read physical.
Mm-hmm.
That was a fact.
I totally agree.
Yeah.
So that was our little rant bookrant.
Um, but what, oh, what's ourtopic Today we're gonna talk
about our job history.
We're gonna talk about jobhopping because Katie and I, I

(19:24):
mean, I think it's a new agething, just like our Yeah.
Generation.
I think we just wanna break thestigma.
We have a different approach towork.
Clearly.
Considering I'm like on jobnumber seven right now.
Yeah.
Easy.
I feel like I finally found mycareer.

(19:45):
Yeah.
You know, but before this Idefinitely job hopped.
Yeah.
And I still like, like havingpassion projects or, you know, I
think it'd be really fun tomaybe not get a job as a
worship, like, Doing some kindof worship something, but I
would love to branch out and domaybe like little gigs for Oh
yeah.
Singing or, um, just singing ona worship team on Sunday if I

(20:10):
get get paid or not.
But I think that would be reallyfun.
So I'm all about, like, eventhough I feel like I found my
career still having passionprojects or, um, multiple
streams of income or just littlelike side gigs and jobs, you
know?
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
I'm kind of at a point wherelike I've had so many different

(20:35):
jobs, especially once I did thecorporate thing and I left, I've
realized like, okay, thecorporate thing didn't work out.
Yeah.
Um, I know think it was yourspecific role though too.
Yeah, that too.
That too for sure.
And I think that was a big thingthat I think though too, like.

(20:56):
Breaking the stigma of onecollege is not always needed.
Mm-hmm.
And two, it's okay if you don'tknow what you wanna do.
Exactly.
You know?
Yeah.
And so, and it's hard,especially like when we talk to
like our parents or people thatare around their age because
they have such a differentapproach to work.

(21:17):
Like, my mom's been at the sameplace for so long, and, but I
think a lot of them.
I'm not speaking for your mama,obviously.
Mm-hmm.
Cause I don't know.
But I think a lot of the timesthe older generation starts a
job.
Maybe doesn't love it, but justkeeps it, and I think our
generation is all about likefinding something you actually
love doing.
Yeah.

(21:38):
That's what I've always, I thinkthat's why I job hopped so much
Yeah.
Is like, if a job was everaffecting my mental health, I'm
like, I'm out Yeah.
You know what I mean?
Absolutely.
I'm like serving, like when Iserved at a restaurant.
Yeah.
Like that was so hard.
Like especially the last couplemonths of that was so hard on my
mental health.
Yeah.
And I was like, yeah, I'm outtahere.
Well, and like at first, for me,the reason why I was switching

(22:00):
jobs was because I was going toschool.
Mm-hmm.
I was getting my associate'sdegree and then I transferred
schools and so I was like, okay,like I'm gonna switch it up and
then it turned into, Okay.
I want something where Iactually like know I could keep
showing up here.
Yeah.
Like a year from now and not belike totally miserable.

(22:21):
Yeah.
And the position I'm in rightnow is just such a 180 or is
that 180?
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
It's like all the way around.
Yeah.
180, um, from whatever, 360.
Yeah.
Be all the way around.
Yeah.
So it's just totally different.
Yeah.
From what I was doing before.
Yeah.
Because even on the days whereit is difficult mm-hmm.

(22:42):
it doesn't even hold a candleYeah.
To what I was dealing withmm-hmm.
Um, and it's all pretty fixable.
Yeah.
You know, people are coming towhere I work to relax and like
take their mind off of outsideproblems.
Yeah.
Versus literally like dealingwith everyday things in people's
money and that's stressful,making sure people get paid,

(23:05):
that kind of stuff.
Yeah.
Um, so, you know, It has itsmoments, but I mean, so far like
it's fine.
I'm really gonna try to stick itout.
I really, it starting a new jobis so stressful.
It is.
Yeah.
It sucks.
Yeah.
Starting a new job is really,really hard, I feel like too.
Um, I don't know.
I guess I don't wanna say thisin a way that's like, quit your

(23:30):
job if you hate it.
But I think just findingsomething you love, like I know
a lot of people are like, oh,I'm stuck in my job.
And that very well may be true.
Mm-hmm.
for a lot of people.
But I also think there's so manyopportunities out there that we
don't think about.
Yeah.
Like I would love to start, youknow, doing some more like stuff
on TikTok and all of that.

(23:51):
Yeah.
And um, even just growing myfitness platform and all of that
kind of stuff.
Yeah.
Like my fitness, like TikTok andInstagram.
Yeah.
Um, but yeah, I think there's alot of opportunity out there
that we get.
like stressed out because wethink there's not Yeah.
You know, that's true.
But it's also hard too, cuzpeople's situations are so

(24:13):
different.
Yeah.
Like I couldn't imagine what mysituation would be if I had
kids.
Oh, a hundred percent.
Or if I was like expecting a kidor if um, I lived on my own or
like, I literally would not beable to just get up and leave.
No, and that's why, I mean likeit's so, there's so many like
situations where people can'tchange their job.

(24:33):
Yeah.
And it's hard cuz it's like thatsituation might offer something.
Like my last job, the benefitswere great.
Yeah.
So if I had a family and likebottom line, I would be like,
I'm gonna have to just make itwork or go to a different
position or something.
Yeah.
Because the pay wasn't bad.
The benefits were really good.

(24:54):
Um, but thankfully the positionthat I'm in right now allows me
to really kind of figure out,okay, what am I doing?
Yeah.
You know?
Yeah.
And so, And then also having thejob I have now allows me to like
actually have the capacity to dothis.
And like you didn't have thecapacity beforehand to do
anything I loved or, yeah.

(25:15):
And that's hard.
That sucked that.
Yes.
That's really, really hard.
Yeah, it was.
It was really, it was a reallyrough time actually.
Yeah.
Um, my mental health tanked.
Mm-hmm.
like so fast.
I literally was there for sixmonths.
Yeah.
And I think I saw you like maybeonce out of that, maybe once

(25:39):
that whole six months.
I literally like coming homeevery day and having a massive
headache cuz I'm having to useYeah.
Just so much of my brain.
And you had to work at homesometimes too, right?
Yeah, I'd work from homesometimes.
And, and then thing is 8:00 PM9:00 PM And the thing is, some
people like working from homeI'm sure isn't great when you

(25:59):
have a job that isn't.
Like that where I, I need likehelp every five seconds Yeah.
For something.
Well, and also you'd work a fullday there.
Yeah.
And then also work at home.
Yeah.
And then that was the wholething.
That's not too, like, I was likenot supposed to be doing that,
but, um, I was doing it.
Yeah.
Because it wouldn't set me upfor, you know, having a better
day, you know, um, the next day.

(26:21):
But having to focus that hardand taking it one day at a time.
Yeah.
For a job.
No.
Oh, absolutely not.
Mm-hmm.
no.
Like, I can't do that.
I feel like I've always beensomebody who like, really this
is what I'm learning this yearis like, you can't idolize
anything.
I was someone who idolized arelationship.
I was someone who idolized likemy position in a role.

(26:42):
Mm-hmm.
And I'm just really taking astep back from like, everything
I've ever idolized and reallytrying to like, put that into,
okay.
Like, who does God say I am?
That's number one.
And then who do I say I am?
You know, like really focusingon like, okay, I've put self

(27:02):
worth into all of these things.
And I mean, even recently, youknow, and it's just, I don't
know.
I worry a lot about that kind ofstuff.
Like, how am I doing in my job?
Are people mad at me?
Are, and that's so frustrating,like, yeah.
To be the person to like, areyou like, are you being the way

(27:24):
you're supposed to?
Or like, I don't know.
Is that kind of where you're,what do you mean?
Like, are you I'm likeoverreacting.
Yeah.
Or you're like overthinking.
I'm overthinking.
That's what it is.
It has nothing to do with like,it has nothing to do with me.
Really?
Yourself.
Yeah.
It's like you're, you'reoverthinking and then you're
overthinking about how peopleare.
Mm-hmm.

(27:45):
And I'm overthinking aboutoverthinking the situation.
Yeah.
Like crazy.
It's a whole damn cycle and it'sreally up to you.
Like at the end of the day, doyou to stop it, how do you feel?
Mm-hmm.
Because you are the one that hasto live it.
Yep.
Like yeah.
And so that's what I'm trying todo now is like take a step back
from idolizing Yeah.
All these things and likeputting that worth back into

(28:06):
myself.
Yeah.
You know?
No.
So that's what I'm trying to dolately and I think it's helping
a little bit.
Yeah.
I mean I really just startedlike really figuring out, oh
shit, I idolize like a lot ofthings.
And that's a really hard thingto come out of.
Like that is not easy.
No.
All of these things that you'relike trying to tackle or they're

(28:27):
like big heavy emotional Yes.
Things.
Yeah.
Yeah.
100%.
And I think I've realized toothat this year is.
You know, I only had four monthsof the year to really like,
quote unquote set myself up forsuccess in 2021, I guess.
Yeah.
Or 2022, sorry.
Yeah.
And now in 2023, I feel like Ican't, this is my year for sure,

(28:51):
but I also feel like this isalmost like my prep year.
Like, okay, let, and that can'tmean, that doesn't mean that a
lot of great things can'thappen, but it's like I gotta
prep myself.
Mm-hmm.
because I didn't really, in2022, I did for the last couple
of months, but I also was stillgoing through something really
heavy, really emotional.
I'm still going throughsomething really heavy.

(29:11):
Yeah.
Really emotional, but.
every day is getting better.
And also I feel like now is thetime to like prep myself.
Yeah.
You know, like set myself up forsuccess.
Yeah.
Okay.
Let's find, you know, a churchhome this year.
Let's like really grow in myfriendships.
Let's really grow in myrelationship.
Let's like really kick ass at mycareer.
Like, it's like the prep yearfor like the success I feel like

(29:34):
I'll see in 2024.
So you see like the fruits ofyour labor kind of Yes.
Thing.
I feel like that's almost thisyear for me.
Yeah.
Which I probably felt the samelast year, but I feel like that
this is really this year for mebecause I'm shifting so much
mentally, it's like the mentalgrowth of it all.
Well, you're probably in abetter position to actually do

(29:55):
that because Yes.
You have nothing reallydistracting you.
Yeah, exactly.
Like you're kind of forced to doit at this point.
Yeah.
Um.
because like, what did you say?
Like last summer, you like askedGod to show you.
Yeah.
That is so crazy.
I did.
I was so sad last summer.
Yeah.
Just honestly so depressed.

(30:15):
And I was like, okay, God.
Like show me.
Yeah.
And it's the same thing Ithought whenever.
Mm-hmm.
So before I had my corporatejob.
Mm-hmm.
like at a job where it wasn'tdifficult at all, whatever.
I felt like it wasn't what I wassupposed to be doing though.
What job was this?
when I was working at the, thisis how many jobs I've had when I
was working at the boutique andI was modeling for the boutique.

(30:35):
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
I forgot that job.
Geez, Louis.
I know, it's crazy.
It's really too much.
But yeah, when I was workingthere, I felt like I should be
doing more.
Yeah.
Like, shouldn't I be doingsomething that like I'm really
like helping people or likeYeah.
Really using my brain.
And I literally kept saying, youknow, I need something that's

(30:56):
gonna help make me use my brain.
I need something that's gonnamake, I need a job that's gonna
make me do this.
And you got that.
Oh, and I got it tenfold.
Yeah.
That's why you can't, like, youhave to be very, um, careful
with what you ask for, carefulwith what you wish for.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Because they're, yeah.
And my mom come, and my mom'salways said like, you have to

(31:17):
watch the words that come outtayour mouth.
Yeah.
Be really mindful of thatbecause you might be putting
something out there that you'renot totally wanting.
Well, and that I think is sotrue because I feel like, okay,
if y'all haven't seen the TikTokthing, there's this girl on
TikTok who said that 2023.

(31:39):
No, I'm doing this every day.
I know.
Every single day.
No, she says, um, what does shesay?
I'm so lucky.
Lucky.
Everything works out for me.
Everything works out for me.
Yeah.
I'm just starting to say itevery day and let's just watch
how my life unfolds.
But I know, um, I'm gonna do thesame thing.
I kind of say it like almostlike.
Silly ish.
You know what I mean?
Like, I'm so lucky.
Everything works out for me.
He, but I know I do.

(32:00):
Yeah.
But I feel like when you havethe opposite, when you're like,
of course this would happen tome, blah, blah, blah, like, that
shit is real.
Like it will manifest, it'llmanifest into me.
That's the same exact way.
Mm-hmm.
I cannot tell you, there'speople in my life that I've said
like, you have got to stopsaying stuff like that.
Yeah.
Because you are gonna stay like,like in this, in the same

(32:24):
bubble.
Yes.
In the psych negative headspace.
And like, that's what I wasdoing yesterday.
I was like, I'm so alone.
I have nobody.
I was just feeding myself.
And then I called my dad and Iwas like, truly, I'm in a
miserable mood.
Mm-hmm.
miserable and then talked tohim, got to feeling better.
Mm-hmm.
and then I journaled mm-hmm.
And I was like, wow, I feel somuch better after like,
journaling and like putting outgood intentions for the year and

(32:47):
whatever it may be.
But when you.
like, well first of all, ourbrains go to the negatives, so
it's always gonna go to that.
Yeah, too.
Your brain believes what yousay.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
Like so it's just so true.
And you know what?
I actually just watched a TikTokI saw this on TikTok, I know I

(33:08):
saw on TikTok, and this ladysaid the thing that holds people
back.
Mm-hmm.
the most when it comes to likestarting to work out or like
wanting to change something.
And then them failing is thatvoice in their head.
They're like, she said, thatvoice isn't you.

(33:28):
If you view that person as likeyou're in your living room
walking around.
Yeah.
And there's a chair in thecorner, and this thing, this
voice is in the chair sittingthere telling you you're fat or
telling you like you are alone.
Mm-hmm.
and like you're miserable andbad things just happen to you
and whatever.

(33:50):
If you view that as somethingthat's just in the corner and
you're seeing it and you'relike, whatever you keep doing,
you, I'm gonna focus on this.
And if you have that mentality,you'll see some like progress in
changes, a real change in yourmindset.
Cuz that is not you.
You know what that reminds meof?
What, how about that?

(34:10):
My therapist told me, um, shewas like, there's gonna be
different yous.
Mm-hmm.
and they can all sit at a table.
Mm-hmm.
they're all you, they can allsit at a table, but that doesn't
mean you have to like, allowthem to speak.
And so I really liked thatbecause I was telling her like,
oh, you know, I have thisfeeling or like this voice

(34:31):
inside my head that like, youknow, really wants a
relationship mm-hmm.
or really wants a boyfriend.
And I idolized that.
She was like, that person canlike sit there at the table.
They don't have to speak and youdon't have to like invite them
in.
and I liked that.
Oh, I really like that.
Yeah.
And so that, that's kind thesame thing.
No, that's, that's why thatreminded me of it cuz it's like,
and I think also visualizinglike, is the person that I wanna

(34:55):
be, does she do X, Y, and Z?
Does the person I wanna be skipher alarm clock?
Does the person I wanna be Oh,like that not make her bed.
Does the person that want to benot meal prep, like, what is the
person that you want?
What is she doing?
Yeah.
You know?
Mm-hmm.
And I think that that's, thatcan like minimize the voice in
your head.
Yeah.

(35:15):
You know, for me, what I, Ithink minimizes the voice in
mind.
Mm-hmm.
is like thinking, remember whatit feels like after, remember
what it feels like.
Yeah.
Once you've done it.
Mm-hmm.
especially for things that Ilike, I know how it feels.
Things that I don't know, Ijust.
I don't know what I do.
Yeah.
Still working on that, but, butI think that's things I know.

(35:37):
I'm like, you know, like workingout regardless of how I felt
before, I'm always gonna beproud of myself.
Yeah.
And always feel better doingafter always.
I think though that what you'resaying almost doesn't really
apply to like, new experiences.
You don't think so?
No, I think because you'retrying to build those habits.
Yeah, that's true.
So it's good to be like, like anew experience, I think, and

(36:00):
kind of be exciting,nerve-wracking, whatever.
But you're going to like getthrough it.
But I think it's, you almostneed to say that more to
yourself when you're buildingthe habits, even though you know
how you feel.
Like you're like, oh, I can justdo it tomorrow.
You know?
And it's true.
And it's like, no, I promisedmyself today and I know I'm
gonna, like, maybe I'm in a shitmood.
I know I'm gonna feel better.
Yeah.

(36:20):
So just do it.
And like, like I said with theum, taking like, Having to take
work day at a time.
That didn't work for me.
Cause I'm like, I have to thinkthat hard about getting through
my day.
I'm here majority of the day.
Yeah.
That is terrible.
But I do think having thatmentality about like
accomplishing my routinesmm-hmm.

(36:42):
and things that are gonnaimprove my day.
Yeah.
I think that's different.
You like your job now though?
Yeah, I do.
I like the space I work in.
Oh, amazing.
And I like, the thing I realizethat I really like is giving
people recommendations.
Oh I love that.
People ask all the time, Laura.
I'm at like, cuz we see so manydifferent people.
Mm-hmm.
um, like, oh, you know, theymight be from here, but they're

(37:04):
not from like the city or likeYeah.
That area.
And I grew up here so I can helpthem out a lot so I don't know
if we talked about it, but whatis your degree in?
Oh, are you going to use it?
You think?
And then what is your dream job?

(37:24):
Three packed questions.
Um, so I have a bachelor'sdegree in psych psychology.
Yeah, my friend's smart.
I didn't get that degree honey.
And it was during lockdown too,so.
That's amazing.
Yeah.
Um, so yeah, I have mybachelor's degree in psychology.
Still very interested in thetopic in the field.

(37:44):
Mm-hmm.
Um, have I worked in the field?
No.
Can I answer why?
Not really.
Well, it's just hasn't led me,like, first of all I will say
it's it cuz you have to get yourmasters to do really anything in
Well, to get to where I reallywanna be.
Like in the field.
Yes.
But what I will say was when Iwas job hunting, one of the

(38:10):
several times I've done it.
Okay.
Um, there was a place that, andit was a job in the field, good
pay, I was gonna be able to getthe certificates that I Oh
amazing.
Wanted all that I applied.
was in the talks with like, youknow, whoever it was, I was
emailing.
Mm-hmm.
um, got a phone interview setup.

(38:33):
Could you not?
It was a disaster after thatpoint.
Why?
Like, the communication wasterrible.
The guy that I was supposed tohave the interview with wouldn't
call, I emailed, didn't hearanything back.
Um, so they ghosted.
Yeah.
And then like, I emailed andlike, no one emailed me back and
it was just like reallydevastating because I was really
excited to do it.
Um, so then that's pretty muchwhy I haven't like, tried again.

(38:57):
So that was also anotheropportunity.
They didn't want to pay mehardly anything and I was
overqualified for it.
Yeah.
I don't like that.
And it just, it was just a mess.
And.
I can't, I can't do this.
No.
Um, so it really just hasn'tworked, worked out.
That's the thing too, is peoplethat get their bachelor's
mm-hmm.

(39:17):
sometimes are still underpaid.
Yes.
I wanna go back to school and Ihaven't done yet.
Cause I really can't figure outwhat I want to do.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I really don't know.
Yeah.
I have no idea.
I almost feel like I went toschool for English.
Oh my gosh.
To be a writer.
Yeah.
Oh my gosh.
Please.
That or to learn more.
And like, that's why I need youto be a writer.
You know what, I should reallyconnect you with my friend on

(39:37):
Instagram.
She just published a book orshe's going to the one that,
it's the one that's gonna writethe fantasy book.
She did.
She to wrote it.
She wrote it.
Yeah.
She's, um, published with.
Penguin uk.
Yeah.
So maybe you guys should like,yeah, maybe I should set you all
up, because I think she'd bemore than willing to because I,
I don't have any sort oftraining in it.
I, I dunno.
I just know that she does, I'mreally interested, but I think

(39:59):
that you wouldn't have to get afull bachelor's for it.
Yeah.
I feel like there'scertifications now and there's
trainings and, you know,definitely.
But it's just, I hope thatrequires a full, but I have no
idea.
That's a whole like thingbecause I love going to school
for psychology.
Like, I don't regret it at all.
Yeah.
But I'm like, I don't know.
But maybe you can use the, yourpsychology degree for writing

(40:21):
Yeah.
Or something, you know.
I could, that's true.
I definitely could.
Now down the road at some point,would I eventually go to it?
Maybe, yeah.
Who knows.
But as far as my dream job goes,I would really like off the top
of my head, I don't reallynecessarily have a dream job.

(40:42):
Okay.
I have a life that I know Iwanna live.
Okay.
I love that.
Um, that's kind of, yeah, so Iknow what I like to do and what
I would wanna do and what wouldbe really great to make money
from doing it.
So like my modeling and gettingjobs, that'd be cool.
Yeah.
Um, but I also am all over theplace cause I like to just like
chop my hair off when I want.
When do you know about that?

(41:02):
The Chloe Kardashian?
Um, apparently this month, butgosh, that's exciting.
Yeah.
I'm trying to think about toomuch cuz if it doesn't I forgot,
but Yeah.
Yeah.
But still is a greatopportunity.
Yeah, it was a great opportunityfor sure.
Um, but yeah, like I know whatkind of life I want.
Yeah.
And I know what I need to affordmyself.

(41:23):
Yeah.
Love that.
Like, so I can't really say Ihave a dream job necessarily.
I know, like I said, what Iwanna do mm-hmm.
the things I wanna start doing.
And that's really it.
Yeah.
Like, before, if you said likedream job, I would say modeling
probably.
I love that was the dream job.

(41:43):
Yeah.
Um, but now if I'm gotten older,it's like, you know, I just know
what I want to do.
Yeah.
Um, what direction I want mylife to be, the things that I
want to be able to afford andlike, and that sort of thing.
So yeah.
Love that.
That's where I'm at.
I love that friend.

(42:03):
I think that's great.
Yeah.
So what about you?
So I have an associate's degreefor vocal performance.
Yeah.
Um, and I'm an online health andfitness coach.
neither one of us are doinganything.
No.
Um, I would love to branch outagain and maybe do like some
kind of gigs, some singing gigs.

(42:25):
I think that would be reallyfun.
I feel like I'm actually in mydream job.
So yeah.
That's really exciting.
That is.
Um, but do I want to add on tothat?
Yes, of course.
I feel like I've never beensomeone who's just had one
thing.
Yeah.
Um, so I really just wannacapitalize on that this year,

(42:46):
like help more women, um, youknow, like have more clients.
Yeah.
That kind of thing.
And like really help, um, growlike the company I'm in.
Yeah.
Um, which is real health andperformance.
If anyone wants to go take alook at our Instagram.
because I really do love like mycoworkers and like my boss and
stuff, that's like such ablessing that you feel like you

(43:09):
found your dream job at thisYeah.
Age.
I know like we're, so many of usare like just trying to figure
that out and I know like, Icannot say the same, but I'm at
a point where I'm more okay withYeah.
Not knowing.
Cuz it's okay if you don't.
I think when you're this young,I know I told you this like.
right after things happened inmy life.
Yeah.
I was like, you either have thejob or you have the relationship

(43:31):
and I have the job and you havethe relationship.
I know we're like completeopposites, but I, you know, only
got into this career a year ago.
Mm-hmm.
hasn't even been a year.
So April will be a year thatI've been with Oh, wow.
The company I'm in now.
Yeah.
And I just love it.
I do think I would love to likebe a podcast.

(43:51):
I mean, we are a podcast host,but like, I would love to really
have this podcast like take off,off, we just take off and, and
be able to do like live showsand I don't know, I, I, I feel
like we both dream really big.
We do dream really big.
We just have to, I'm a dreamerfor sure.
We are dreamers, both of us are,that's why I've like, set small
goals for this year.
Yeah.
Like I said, you know, I wantedour podcast to have like a

(44:12):
thousand monthly listeners andmm-hmm.
you know, a thousand followerson.
Yeah.
Um, platforms.
Yeah.
But like, I would love toeventually do more stuff with
the podcast.
Yeah.
Um, and I would love to, youknow, I'm still working on an
album, which I haven't reallytalked about.
Yeah, that's true.
It's been put on hold because,um, just a lot of like family
stuff mm-hmm.
happened, you know?

(44:33):
Mm-hmm.
in like October, November.
So it's been put on hold, butI'm actually starting to go back
next week.
Oh, that's good.
Yeah.
And so I would love for that to,you know, be something.
Yeah.
I think just like, I just wannabe proud of that.
I have no, like, specificnumerical goal.
I'm sure I will once it comesout, but I have no specific
goals I want to hit with that.
I just wanna have music that I'mproud of and that I personally

(44:54):
wanna listen to.
I totally resonate with that.
Obviously it's not music becauseI like to sing, but I don't
sound good, so whatever.
Um, but there, I just wanna beproud of.
something that I did.
I think you could do that withbooks though, created.
Yeah, for sure.
You know, I think you're supercreative too.
Mm-hmm.
And I think that you need thatkind of creative outlet.

(45:16):
Yes.
I, I think so too.
So I think just start writing.
Have you started writing?
Yeah.
But it's nothing that is reallylike, um, one story.
It's just like I'll be sittingthere and be like, and I'll text
Corey sometimes and be like, Iwas in the elevator and I saw
these two people and I thoughtabout this.
And I think this is like reallycool for some, that's just, I
don't know how stories come tome sometimes.
Yeah.

(45:36):
Um, but in my notes, it's allover the place.
They'll read something in,something will just look like a
poem or something.
Yeah.
And then something else is aplot.
And then it's, I think somethingthat's cool to know though is
like even riders have to sitdown and like force themselves
to write.
Yeah.
That makes me feel better.
Like it's not just people thatsit there.
Yeah.
It's not just create, yeah.
It's not just flow all the time.

(45:56):
It also have editors, they havepeople to help them out.
Mm-hmm.
And so I think.
that would be really, really funfor you.
Well, and I think the author ofthe Magnolia Parks, like
universe, all those books.
Mm-hmm.
if I'm not mistaken, um, Iwatched a clip of her podcast
that, um, Kenzie Elizabeth Ohyeah.

(46:17):
Had her on and she like, oh shedid?
That's exciting.
Yeah.
And she like, uh, wrote thosebooks.
Um, I think the first one, Idon't know if it was all of
them, um, so don't quote me onthat, but definitely the first
one in like a year.
Oh wow.
And like she, like the storyliterally just came to her.

(46:38):
The characters were alldifferent before she, for what
we have now.
Oh, okay.
So that is different.
But it was just really crazy cuzit's like, it's almost, it
sounded like she like had thisthought and it, and it's crazy
when you hear these authorstalk, they are sitting there
like, I've sat on this foryears.
Yeah.
Or I had this book written for.

(47:01):
months and months and monthsbefore I actually was like,
okay, I'm gonna do somethingwith it.
Or they've been trying to getthis one story just out there
and it's just the timing just itwas not working.
You know what I think is cooltoo?
What is knowing that like peoplecan create or make really big
things in their like forties,fifties, sixties.

(47:22):
Yeah.
Like it doesn't have to be now.
I think a lot of us put,especially 20 year olds, gosh,
we're, yes.
Like 20 something year olds putso much pressure to make it when
everyone says, notoriously yourtwenties is not even your best
years.
Yes.
And everyone's timeline isdifferent.
Everyone's timeline isdifferent.
Like, and it doesn't help thatwe are on social media.
Yeah.

(47:42):
Preparing to because, but Ithink that whole.
I think if you can use, doesn'tbother me as well.
Use social media to youradvantage.
Yeah.
Of like getting hyped andgetting creativity.
Like for me, I've loved TikTokthrough like my healing journey.
Yeah.
Because I've curated like theperfect for you page.
Yeah.
That like is focused on becomingbetter in 2023.

(48:05):
Mm-hmm.
and healing and a lot of, youknow, people talking about
specific Bible verses orwhatever.
It is just like very encouragingthings or things that make me
wanna get up and be better.
But I think when you, I thinksocial media is a whole topic in
itself.
Like yeah.
If you follow these people thatyou're constantly comparing to,
why don't you just unfollow themliterally like, I will mute or

(48:28):
block you.
Mm-hmm.
I have no problem with hitting ablock button and it's not
anything personal, but it'sbecause I don't block flicking.
Yes.
And also I don't wanna see itand I also don't wanna look it
up.
Yeah.
And I know myself.
Mm-hmm.
So why not just block?
Yeah.
So I can't look it up.
Exactly.
No, I totally feel the same way.
And I think too, for me, seeingpeople post on social media and

(48:54):
also understanding that it is ahighlight reel.
Yeah.
And maybe it doesn't, wellthat's not true.
Cause it does affect people ourage.
But for me personally, like youcan't tell me that you're really
living that good right now.
Yeah.
Like, like truthfully, like inyour head.
Like they don't, probably don'teven feel like they don't think
as highly of themselves asyou're thinking of them.

(49:16):
And I also think thatvulnerability is really
attractive and vulnerability islike connection.
Yeah.
And so I know celebrities havelike, I guess appearance they
have to, yeah.
Keep up with Or that they'vebranded.
Curated.
That they've branded themselves.

(49:36):
Yeah.
But it's like, I bet you so manymore people would connect with
you if you just shared somethingyou're struggling with.
I kind of agree with that, butat the same time, I disagree.
Really?
Really?
Yes.
Because people are so mean.
Yeah.
And every, everyone does notdeserve to know what's going on
with you.
Oh, okay.
It's just like how I always say,you're like, okay, great.

(49:58):
I'm like, oh, okay.
But like, so.
I also, yeah, no, you're right.
You're right.
I also, I heard this one time, Idon't know if my mom said it or
like where I heard this from,but ever since I heard it the
first time, it stuck with me.
And it was like, as much as Ibelieve in the power of prayer,
I don't want just anyone prayingfor me.
Mm.
And you're kind of, your side iscoming from like protect your

(50:21):
own peace.
A absolutely.
No, I completely agree withthat.
Absolutely.
I, no, you're right cuz I guessI wasn't thinking like social
media can be whatever you like,it's an illusion.
Yeah.
Period.
Period.
Yeah.
We don't, we don't know thesepeople.
Yeah.
Like you're right.
And I think if it was somebodylike Haley b brochure to get so
much hate, if she showed herselfcrying or something, she would
be clowned.

(50:42):
Brutal.
Yeah.
Brutal.
And that doesn't go to say that.
Like now if you choose to sharethose things mm-hmm.
and people are hateful, whateveryou put it out there.
You know, people are going to,but I still doesn't, I still
don't think that gives peopletheir right.
It doesn't.
It doesn't.
It doesn't.
Yeah.
It absolutely doesn't.
But it will happen.
But you do have a certainresponsibility to protect
yourself.
Like someone on TikTok told meto eat a salad Like Okay.

(51:05):
Like stuff like that.
Yeah.
I said, okay, Timmy Timmy.
Like, cool.
Yeah.
Like, but also, yeah, you haveto like, not take any of that
seriously.
You can't, because most of themare people named like Dragon 3,
4, 5.
They, no, they never, they wouldnever dare to put themselves out
there like that.

(51:25):
No, they would never.
It's like, I'm sorry.
And so, to me, likevulnerability, I do think it's
important, but the people thathave very curated content also,
I'm like, do you?
Yeah.
Some people are totally into it,some people aren't.
And that's how, like you said,like your timeline is curated
for you.
Yeah.
Like, and, and that's, andthat's great.

(51:47):
Mm-hmm.
and some people like,especially, the thing that I
don't get is, like you weresaying, if something is
bothering you or whatever, justlike let it go.
Like unfollow them.
If someone that's like, oh, Ilove this creator, but they're
not vulnerable and like they'renot real and they're not.
Yeah.
Okay.
Well, and follow'em.
Either like get over it.

(52:08):
Yeah.
Or I mean regardless they'regetting paid or not getting
paid, whatever.
Yeah.
That's so true.
Like who Caress?
Yeah.
Yeah.
No, you're so right.
Yeah.
Who cares.
Yeah.
It's their Instagram to do whatthey like, whatever they want
with it.
Exactly.
Exactly.
And they're so, and I think too,when you're on social media, you
don't realize how much of theworld actually isn't on social

(52:29):
media.
Yeah.
Cause it feels like everyone'sthere.
Everyone is not there.
I'm say it feels like everybodyis.
The STA that I saw a while agosaid something like, not even
half of the world is on socialmedia, but there's so many
people.
The world.
I don't, I know, but I see a lotof like 2 billion people follow

(52:54):
like a specific creator.
That's a lot of people.
But there are I guess 7 billionlike Yeah.
Bots.
You have multiple.
Oh, that's true.
I mean, wait, you're so right.
Yeah.
But that also depends on how youdefine on social media.
Yeah.
Because you can have an account.
Have an account, yeah.
Follow.
But if you're not actively onsocial media, that makes sense
because someone could say like,I'm not even on it cuz my actual

(53:16):
feed.
Mm-hmm.
like, I haven't posted anythingsince I don't scroll on
Instagram.
I just look at stories I love,uh, yeah.
My stories.
I have stuff some like majorityof the time I think.
Um, yeah, I feel like you do.
Yeah.
But I.
I am not really on on, I'm onit.
Cause I'm like always on it.
Like, yeah.
You know, looking at TikTok,going through Instagram,

(53:37):
people's stories.
TikTok is my absolute favorite.
I love TikTok and no one cantell me otherwise.
I used to really not be a TikTokstar.
I was like trying to be a TikTokhater at first.
No, same.
But I was like, I think it was,I love TikTok.
Think Corey was just sending mestuff and he was like, you need
to get it so you don't have tolook at my phone.
Um, and then I did and I waslike, oh, I'm a believer now.

(53:59):
No, it's, I love TikTok.
Yeah, I definitely, I don't knowmy, I could rather get rid of
all of my other apps and keepTikTok.
I could.
I could do that too, I think.
Yeah.
Actually.
Yeah, I could too.
Mm-hmm.
that's like my Be real though.
I do like my be reel I likeTikTok now.
TikTok now is, yeah.
That's cool.
Cool thing too.
Same thing.
But yeah, I feel like nobody'son my TikTok now, so it's so
fun.
No one's on buying either, so Ilove it.

(54:19):
I know I only have like fivepeople on my Be real.
I know.
And it's so fun to be able tolook back at your Yeah.
Days.
Can you do that and be real?
Yeah.
Like look back at this specificday.
I think so.
Yeah.
That's what I like on TikToknow.
They made my little video for2022.
I saw those TikTok.
Now you can like look back at aspecific day.
Yeah.
And I'm like, that's so fun.
Like what was I doing that day?
And so I think like a year fromnow, I love it.

(54:40):
Looking back.
Mm-hmm.
I think that will be so fun.
And I really do think like asmuch harm as.
I don't know.
I think TikTok has brought usback to a more raw social media
experience.
Yep.
Which I think is really cool.
I started posting on my kindvideos.
I love it.
Because like if you rememberwhen Instagram first came out,

(55:02):
like, oh my gosh.
It was literally filteredpeople.
People were literally likeposting this coffee cup Oh,
yeah.
With a heavy filter on it and itgot like millions hundred likes.
Yeah.
And you're like, Ugh.
It's nothing.
it's, it's, yeah, it's reallynothing.
And now you post like the mostperfect curated photo dump and
it gets 10 likes.
Like cool.
It did, yeah.
And like, just put hours intothis.
I think it's really cool kind ofwhere we're, we're coming back

(55:24):
to.
I know.
Like our words, it's sounpredictable.
Like what social, like what'sgonna happen?
Yeah.
Because the growth of technologyhas been so passed.
Literally that, and it's changedso much and advanced so much.
Who knows?
I know.
Who knows?
You just gotta grab the bull bythe horns and take advantage of
it while it's here.

(55:44):
No, literally.
That's what I think.
Yeah.
A hundred percent.
Yeah.
I do think social media isdangerous, but I also think
people put way too much.
Um, like emphasis on it.
Emphasis on, yeah.
What other people are doing,thinking we do that in our
normal life anyways.
Yep.
Um, without social media.

(56:05):
Mm-hmm.
Um, and if you're already.
like down on yourself thinkingin that way, social media is not
gonna help you.
That is something I'm trying todo better about.
Like last night I just put myphone away in read.
Mm-hmm.
and that was so good for me.
I felt so refreshed today.
Love waking up, love like afterdoing that.
Yeah.
And that is gonna be one of mylike big goals because I feel

(56:26):
like even when I have done likeself-care in the past, I've
always had my phone by me or youknow, who's calling me, who's
texting me, like, what's goingon?
Or I'll scroll Instagram orTikTok while I'm like trying to
self-care.
And that's not self-care.
Like it can be, I guess, butlike really disconnecting.
Mm-hmm.
and just vibing with yourself.

(56:48):
I know like one of the bestthings that I try to do,
sometimes I forget or my phoneis, Literally about to die.
So I have to charge it and myoutlet's by my bed.
Oh, it's put your phone, it'sput my phone on my bookshelf.
Yeah.
And I have to actually get upand get it.
It's gonna sit there and keepgoing off.
Mm-hmm.
And usually, like, there hasbeen times where I got back in
the bed, but if I put it up at acertain amount of like, like at

(57:13):
nine o'clock is like the latestreally?
Um, and then I just have myKindle.
Yeah.
Like usually I'm like, good.
Cause I'll go to bed likeearlier.
Sometimes reading really has melike, yeah.
Ooh, it's bad.
Um, but reading on my Kindlegets me better rest than reading
on my phone.
Oh.
I read on my phone during theday when I'm at work and stuff.

(57:34):
Yeah.
But I try to read on my Kindle.
Yeah.
Majority of the time.
Yeah.
I feel like This's been a verylike, rambly.
We were like, we're gonna talkabout job hopping and then it's
gone.
We kind of jumped everywhere.
Social media and jobs.
It's been good though.
It's been really good.
It's been a really chatty,rambly little, um, God, but, but
it's start to a certain, a newlike year though, you know?

(57:54):
Yeah.
So it's just kind of, you know,going through the things.
Yeah.
All the things.
Yeah.
Getting our thoughts togetherfor 2023 and everything.
Mm-hmm.
Um, cool.
Well if y'all have anyrecommendations mm-hmm.
let us know.
Yeah.
And I will put the, all theproducts in the description and
the things that we talk about.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

(58:15):
Cause we'd be talking aboutstuff and I'm like, we probably
should like, yeah.
Like that Sorry.
Just in case.
Um, and we will talk to you guysnext week.
I love you.
Cry babies.
Love you.
Bye.
Bye.