March 6, 2023 • 26 mins
In today's episode, Lauryn shares a bit more about her mental health journey and how she's feeling!
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Remy is staring me down rightnow.
Remy?
Yeah.
Hi everyone.
He's one out.
Oh my gosh.
Hi guys.
It's been actually a coupleweeks has been too, right?
Yeah.
I'm sad.
That's crazy.
It, it feels like my first time,like all over again.
I know.
I'm scared.
I'm scared.
Mommy, I'm skilled.
Um, welcome back to the podguys.
We miss you.
Welcome back to my chair, Great.
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Um, so.
We decided, well, no, no, no,no, no, no, no.
Wait.
Back up, back it up.
Back it up.
I have a very, Lauren has a verycontroversial opinion to share.
Me and Lauren just actuallyalmost fist fought before this
episode.
Oh, we haven't disagreed thathard.
We haven't disagreed on anythingexcept this, and I will die.
It's so crazy.
It's so crazy.
No.
Okay.
I forgot what it was.
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Oh, we were talking about bookclub.
Okay.
So we were talking about bookclub.
Mm-hmm.
And I was like, yeah, we'regoing next, uh, Tuesday.
and or Wednesday, whatever.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And then, um, she was just like,no, like not next Tuesday or
something like that.
And I was like, girl, it's, itwas like two weeks.
It's a new week.
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Like it's next week.
No.
No.
Okay.
Lauren is convinced this, it'sSunday when we're recording
this, by the way.
So Lauren is convinced thatSunday to Saturday is.
No, no, no.
Yeah, that's my week.
Monday through.
Here's the thing though.
At first you didn't say, this ismy week.
You just said No.
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That's how the weeks.
Yeah.
That is how it goes, Yes, itdoes.
Sunday to Saturday can, canpeople comment on this episode
and please, they're gonna sayit's Monday through Friday or
whatever.
Monday through Saturday, Sunday.
Okay.
I don't even know the week Iwant to be.
Right.
So I need them to commentbecause that's just what
everybody does.
But for me, I do like your I do.
Okay.
Everyone don't comment becauseLauren does have a good reason,
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and I want her to feel entitledto her.
I don't have a good reason forthe reason why.
I like Sundays being.
The first day, the start of anew week is because Mondays are
genuinely hard.
Yeah.
And I don't know, it just freaksme out.
They are hard.
It's like Monday starts and it'slike, life just kind of starts
it like jolts you.
Yeah.
And Sundays are just, I don'tknow.
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The vibes for Sunday are a good,like first day of the week vibe.
I do like that friend.
Yeah.
I do appreciate that.
She's like, thanks for coming tomy TED talk.
I appreciate that.
I appreciate that.
But you're wrong.
It's so wrong.
No, I, I mean it, it's whatever.
I hope you guys liked our icks.
Um, I was a little unhinged.
She was.
And I think I had a great timethough.
I had a great time.
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Yeah.
Um, today we're gonna be talkingabout mental health.
We're like definitely switchinggears cause I've been absolutely
spiraling Yeah.
Lauren's been feeling at y'all.
So we decided to talk aboutmental health.
Yeah.
And just kind of, I don't know,sharing.
The reason I wanna talk about itis just because I feel like when
you're feeling really down, It'sreally easy to forget that the
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way you're feeling.
Like other people know what thatfeels like too.
Yeah.
And you can like reach out andlike talk to people.
Yeah.
Especially if people are like methat kind of fold in on
themselves.
Rec clues a little.
I get so deep in my own head.
Yeah.
It's so bad.
I'm the complete opposite.
I know.
That'll talk your entire earoff.
Yeah.
It's just so crazy because Ifeel like some people see me as
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that way.
And I think I used to.
I used to for sure.
And now I know you better.
So we wanna talk about mentalhealth.
Mm-hmm.
do you have anything you firstwanna say about just what, how
you've been feeling?
Yes.
So I think the reason why itwas, I feel like I was riding
this high of like, speakingreally positively about myself.
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Yeah.
And about my situation and, um,kind of being like, oh, I'm so
lucky.
Everything's gonna work out forme.
And like it does.
That's stuff that we've beenlike it talking about the lucky
girl, Uhhuh, syndrome, whatever,heavy on that.
I was like, okay, you know what,yes.
And I'm starting to come backaround to that again.
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Um, but I think.
After a while just because I wasbeing so positive.
Yeah.
I had like something happenedand I just kind of, I don't
know.
It's almost like you're on topof this building and then you're
just kind of like, yeah.
Slowly, like just falling, likethat's like how I was feeling.
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I feel like though, do youremember my therapist said, I, I
told you a while back, but Idon't know if you'd remember,
but how like my therapist was,Oh, you were riding on this like
go, go, go high.
Yeah.
And now you've kind of come backto reality.
Mm-hmm.
and you kind of crashed alittle.
Mm-hmm.
And now you're just coasting,which is good.
Yeah.
Like maybe that's what happenedto you.
I don't know.
You kind of had to dip.
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Yeah.
And then, yeah.
And then now you're getting tothe point.
I personally believe that you'reon the brink of a breakthrough.
Yeah.
That's just personally what Ibelieve for you.
I know, but I think.
we all go through this, youknow?
Yeah.
Do you wanna touch on any reasonwhy you've been feeling low or
no?
Um, I would say like the thingthat's really been bother
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bothering me is like, it'sreally important for me to,
whatever it is I'm doing inlife, that I love what I'm
doing.
Mm-hmm.
Um, and when work starts to feellike work, because I don't have
periods where it doesn't feellike that, I'm like, you know, I
should be just lucky to have ajob.
Yeah.
And be able to actually get upand go somewhere, you know?
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Yeah.
Um, but when work starts to feellike that and I'm not happy
doing it, I start to get in myhead, like, almost like talking
myself into thinking I'm gonnabe stuck.
Oh, there.
And I'm like, when?
Like, you have full controlover.
Yeah.
I'm never stuck.
Even if.
Wherever I do end up, if it'snot what I think I should be
doing, it might be better forme, better than I imagined.
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Who knows?
Yeah.
But as for what I can see rightnow, it's just, I don't know.
Like I'm okay, but I, I know Icould be better.
Yeah.
Right now I'm okay.
Bef like couple days ago I wasnot doing okay.
I was like freaking out.
I think though, it comes back toanother thing with not having.
like a steady routine.
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Mm-hmm.
I feel like that can really f apersonnel.
I know, I know.
Like not having a steady likeroutine.
Mm-hmm.
cuz you're kind of back andforth.
I'm all over the place.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
And so I think that once you cankind of nail Yeah.
Or like dial that in just even alittle bit.
Yeah.
I think that's gonna help you alot.
And I will say too, I do this alot.
It's a really bad pattern and Ineed to quit doing it, but I.
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be taking my medicine becausetransparency here, I take
anxiety medicine.
I too hop off, you know?
Um, I take my meds and then I'llbe doing like good.
And I'm like, I don't needthose.
Mm-hmm.
I'm good.
And then something will happenand I like break down.
No, you need to just always be,it's so bad taking them.
I like talk myself out of thinkI need it.
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I'm like, girl, you don't need.
The one day I tried to not takethem.
Yeah.
Granted I was already depressedand then I was like, this was
last summer.
Mm-hmm.
And I was like, I, you knowwhat?
I need a challenge.
I just need not take'em.
And I, I know spiral rolled up.
It's little stuff like thatthough, like that's not
necessarily what got me where Iam right now.
But yeah, in the past, cuz thisis a cycle I've been doing No.
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So bad.
It's just, I just coast on themnow.
I'm like, it's a nightly thingfor me.
It's so bad.
So that also I think is.
Yeah.
Everything feels so much morelike heavy.
Yeah.
Like everything.
Have you started taking themagain?
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
So maybe in a couple days.
Like it's, I feel like almostlike, I don't know, like the
clouds are parting a lot.
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Like tranquilized kind of whereit's kind of like Like you're
just kind of coasting.
Yeah.
Cause it's kind like here.
Cuz I was like down here and I'mlike right now.
Which is better than Yeah.
That's why when you were like,how are you?
I.
like, fine I was like, okay.
Pop off Yeah.
And, and for me, like that's notlike bad.
That's not bad.
Yeah.
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Yeah.
Like today hasn't been bad oranything and today's been better
than the other days, but yeah.
You know, we move on and I feellike I've done little things
because I, I, I freak myself outcause I know what it feels like
to be depressed and I don't wantto be like that again.
Yeah.
And so, um, I just have tried tolike do little things.
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That I think will help me.
Mm-hmm.
Cause I think some of mytriggers are like when plans
don't go as I think they shouldor Yeah.
I'm like in my brain somethingworks perfectly this way but
it's not happening that way.
Yeah.
So I get nervous and then Ibought myself a planner and did
that help or no?
I'm looking for a therapist.
Yep.
Okay, good.
I mean, it's a habit I'm tryingto get used to, so yeah.
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Do you wanna speak on that?
Do you wanna speak on like, cuzI've been in therapy for, I
wanna say four years now.
Four?
Three.
Three, I think.
So kind of like, walk me throughlike what kind of made, if you
feel comfortable sharing, butlike what made you feel like
ready to seek out therapy?
Kind of like all, like how'syour mindset on that?
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Um, because I don't reallyremember, for me, I just know I
was kind in a bad place.
I think just, um, coming out oflike at a really depressed state
and then.
Looking back and kind of beinglike, you know what, I might be
sad right now, but I'm not how Iwas then.
Yeah.
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And then feeling as low as I didthe other day.
I was like, I scared myself.
I've never seen you that low.
Yeah.
It was bad.
I think I scared myself prettybad.
Mm-hmm.
and um, just scared yourselfbecause you didn't want to go
back into depression.
Yeah.
Cuz it's hard to pull yourselfout of it.
Yeah, a hundred percent.
Like, like I told you before westarted like just feeling.
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so bad that mm-hmm.
getting up out of bed justphysically hurts and the way
that I would feel.
So just like overwhelmed if Iwas there last summer, like
mm-hmm.
in my room and just like, yeah.
Sleeping or whatever.
Like, I, I can't do that again.
No, I do not need press.
I wanna be like that again.
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Yeah.
So, and then just like talkingto my mom, she's like, cause I
would, I would call her mm-hmm.
I had like a breakdown, like, Idon't even know, like four
times.
Yeah.
In the span of, I don't know, itwas a couple days.
It just was not good.
And so I was talking to my momand she pretty much was just
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like, you know, I'm always hereto talk, but you can't just talk
to me.
Yeah.
Like, I'm, I'm not a therapist.
Mm-hmm.
I, I can't, you need like anon-biased Yeah.
Yeah.
She was like, you need to talkto someone that's outside of
that.
Yeah.
So, and I've never talked toanyone about like, the grief
with, from like my dad either.
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And so that's like a whole otherthing.
And I know I need to talk tosomeone about it, but I just
don't want to.
Yeah.
I don't know, it's just easy forme to like, not really talk
about stuff.
I don't know.
I like when people talk to meabout their stuff.
So yeah.
I think though that once youstart going and like really
build a relationship with thisperson mm-hmm.
You're gonna love going, becauseI love my therapist.
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Like I love going to ther, butit did take me a couple ther,
like therapists before I foundmy, yeah.
Like I love mine.
She's also psychologist, solike, it just, she's a PhD.
A PhD, so it just feels right.
So I'm just trying to like keepat it, you know?
Yes.
Like, Stop when you know, don'tget discouraged.
That's what I told you to do.
Yeah.
Like don't get discouraged ifyou're like, okay, like I liked
talking to her, but you know,some, and I would say like,
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which I'm not a therapist expertor anything.
Mm-hmm.
But like if it doesn't feelright off the first one, I
probably wouldn't go back.
Because you don't wanna have tokeep telling the same stories
over and over to differenttherapists.
Cuz I had to do that and I waslike, I do not wanna relive this
with you.
I just want you to know my life.
Yeah.
I just already know it.
Yeah.
And that's the thing too, I'mlike, I just, ugh.
I don't wanna.
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dive into all this stuff.
Can't you just know me likeYeah, just, yeah.
But once you find the personthat like clicks mm-hmm.
that's so great.
Yeah.
I love my girl.
So that's like, that's the,that's the goal.
But that's really what kind of,it's, it's a several things, but
mm-hmm.
those things are kind of whatgot me to the point where I was
like, okay, yeah, I cannot dothis, like as an adult.
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But yeah, I've just, it's alittle, it's been giving Sad
Girl for like the past twoweeks, and I'm over it.
They're giving sad girl.
Yeah.
I think that's okay though.
Yeah.
I think it's okay to feel sad.
Mm-hmm.
me and my Enneagram for, I'mlike, it's okay.
It's okay.
It's needed.
I don't even know what myEnneagram.
Wait, what?
I don't think so.
No, I think I'm like a four wingfive?
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No, no, four wing three,something like that.
Yeah, probably.
I'm a four wing three.
I actually need you to take itlike immediately after this.
I'm gonna make you take it.
Yeah.
I'm a four wing three.
Are you a four wing Three forsome.
I mean, I wouldn't just pullthat out of my ass, you know,
like, can you retake it?
I really need to know.
Um, the questions overwhelm me.
I was like, I would do all ofthese.
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Okay, well you heard it herefirst.
Everyone I do think you'reactually in Ingram four cuz you
do like to, that's just strangeto me though, how we're both
ingram's fours, but act sodifferent when we're sad.
Yeah.
I need to call everybody I knowand talk through the situation.
Everybody I know everyone welldifferent people for different
times.
I mean, the people that I'm, Icall you, I mean, I talk to all
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you.
I tell, uh, my mom Corey knows.
Um, I don't know.
Yeah, I just, but you also likeare okay with, I think whenever,
like, I was sad last summer, Iwas also with somebody who kind
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of didn't really believe indepression or anxiety, so that's
hard.
But also somebody who is like,well, you just need a, you need
a c.
And it's hard.
You need to start 75 hard.
You need to start.
Okay.
Yeah.
And that's hard when you'redepressed.
So I think that that kind ofspiraled me even more like
really small stuff.
And that's the thing too, likewhen you're depress when so
doesn't understand, that's hard.
That's hard to explain.
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Cause it's like, no, listen, Iliterally feel like really sad
for no reason.
Yes.
Because the only thing thatwould help me is making a list
for myself and it being like themost.
Like basically get out of bed,like literally shower number one
and get out of bed.
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Mm-hmm.
brush your teeth, shower andlike being able the things you
can actually cross off.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like that.
I heard someone say that that'swhat they do and I was like,
okay, like I'm gonna do that.
And then it worked.
Yeah, it worked.
So I did it.
Um, I also think with just likethe weather that we're in too.
Oh yeah.
I think that once the sun comesout, you're gonna feel a lot
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better too.
Do you take any vitamins?
You need to.
Yeah.
Like vitamin D especially, we'reall, yeah, we're all low on
vitamin D.
Everybody take it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Just kidding.
I'm not a doctor, huh?
But I mean, I'm pretty, I thinkthat's accurate though.
I think it is too.
Um, magnesium is supposed to bereally good.
Yeah.
Like when you're going to bed,like for stress relief.
I heard that too.
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It helps with sleep.
I heard that most women are lowon zinc as well.
Uh, nobody I know Iron is what,and iron.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
Nobody backed me up.
Nobody come for me because,yeah.
I will say like having smalllittle goals, even if it's like
walk for 10 minutes outside.
Yeah.
Or especially when it's likenicer outside.
Mm-hmm.
have you read Atomic Habits?
(15:24):
Mm-hmm.
No.
I don't really read those thingskind of books, but I want you
to.
I know, but it's just hard.
do those kinds of books motivateyou or make you feel like shit?
Like make you, it just makes mefeel like, ugh.
Okay.
Okay.
Because I, they motivate me, butI was hearing another girl's
perspective about how like itmakes her feel bad because she
doesn't do those things already.
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Yeah.
And I'm like, that's not me.
It can be really overwhelmingcuz I'm like this, it can't
person that wrote this has to belike a fully.
Developed like Yeah.
You know what though?
Craig Rochelle just came outwith a book I really wanna read.
Mm-hmm it's called The Power toChange.
Mm-hmm And apparently his booksare really good.
I've never read one really, butI do actually want to read this
book.
Yeah, I think it could be good.
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I think the reason it's hardtoo, just for me, like I don't
even know if it's really just,oh, it'd make me feel bad.
It's more so just cuz when Iread like.
The way that I'm utilizing it isdifferent.
Like I can be having the worstday possible, and if I'm not in
a reading slump, first of all,that'll make me feel even more
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sad if I am in a reading slump.
Yeah.
On top of being sad.
But that's like my number oneway to feel better is read.
Yes.
I feel like reading has beenlike your therapy almost.
Mm-hmm.
in the past.
I think that's why you're solike passionate about it.
Yeah.
Cause it's like helped youthrough so many hard times.
Yeah.
I'm like, you don't like thisreality.
Jump into another one.
Bye.
I know that sounds terrible, butI'm so serious.
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Not really.
Cause I feel like that readinghelped so many.
Reading honestly helped methrough my divorce for sure.
Mm-hmm.
I did not wanna read a singlelike fiction book for a long
time.
And then I was like, you know, Iwill.
And then I was like, wait, thisis really fun, It just makes me,
it makes me feel really good.
Just that, I don't know, I don'tknow how to explain it.
Love and like a light and likeso out of my own head.
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but like, how have you, how haveyou been?
How have you been feeling andhow have you been just mentally.
Yeah.
Wow.
Mm-hmm.
thanks for letting me talk.
No, I'm just kidding.
you've been interviewing me.
I'm like sick of it.
I know.
I love interviewing you becauseI'm like, you don't open up very
often, so I'm like, give it tome.
I know you gimme everything, butI will if you ask me questions.
Yeah.
Because sometimes I'm like, Idon't know.
And then once I start talking, Iknow, it's like, wow, like
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you're such a deep person.
I know like earlier I was like,how are you doing?
You're like, fine.
I was like, uh, you need morethan that Um, I'm doing honestly
Uhhuh friend.
I'm doing.
Good.
I know.
I have not been able to say thatin about a year.
I love maybe more, maybe lessthan that for sure.
Maybe like eight months.
(17:51):
Yeah.
I got really sad over thesummer.
I was sad girl.
No, and I don't think I toldanybody.
That's crazy.
You didn't tell me at all.
I had no idea.
I didn't tell anybody because Ithought you were just busy and
she's living her life.
I'm like, good for her.
I was.
I think I honestly really onlytold.
But I would like call him and Iwould be crying and he'd be
like, do I need to meet yousomewhere?
like, are you bloody?
What is going on?
Yeah.
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Yeah.
And so I was just like, I'munwell.
Mm-hmm.
And I think just, I loved myjob, but I got really busy with
my job and then I don't really,I think I just was so isolated
from everyone moving so far awaythat I got really sad.
and then, you know, I obviouslygot divorced.
(18:33):
Mm-hmm.
And so I feel like finally forthe first time in like eight
months, I can say like I'mactually like happy with where
my life is at.
Good.
And I was talking about this onTikTok today, but like I feel
like there's a prevo me and anafter divorce me.
Have I told you this?
Uhuh?
I just feel like I feel.
I feel the same.
Right.
Like characteristic wise andpersonality-wise, I feel the
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same, same girl.
But the after divorce me is justfeeling more like myself.
Mm-hmm.
I'm feeling good.
I'm feeling happy in my skin,I'm feeling good.
I'm feeling like I'm becomingmore me, if that makes sense.
No, I think it makes sense.
Do I hate like the dating world?
Yeah.
Am I gonna hate that?
Yeah.
(19:14):
Yeah.
But because you're, I mean,you're like forcing yourself to.
Embrace what singleness thisworld.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I am.
I'm really trying hard to justlike think you're doing a good
job though thank you.
one thing you've really helpedme out with is like, I don't
have to have it all figured out.
Yeah, that's one like, lifelesson you've really taught me
in the last month.
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Like I'm just chilling whereverthe wind takes me.
Like I truly, what I told mytherapist, I am coasting and I'm
kind of loving it.
Yeah.
Like I feel like in the pasttoo, like it's been really hard
because I've always felt like Ineeded to be doing more or like.
Making more money, which like Ido really want to focus in on
and hone in on work this year.
But like, I mean, that's part ofwhy I was sad.
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So what?
Just like, not like I feel likeI should be making more money,
doing more like that kind ofstuff.
So, but I used to feel like thatand doesn't get you anywhere,
just makes you always feel worsebecause you get to the next
achievement and you're like,Okay, well what's next?
Yeah, that's true.
And so like, now I'm finallygetting to the point where I'm
like, wait, I actually reallylove the life I'm creating.
Mm-hmm.
And like what my future is gonnabe, but like, you know, moving
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in with you and like travelingfor my birthday and like us
going on a trip, like I'mlooking forward to those things.
But like, I also genuinely likereally loving my day to day.
Yeah.
And I've honestly never feellike I've never been able to.
It's always been like, what'snext?
And I feel that's how I feelkind of Right, right Now.
Another thing that I wasthinking, or that I saw on
TikTok though was like, why areyou rushing this season of your
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life?
Cause you'll never get it back.
That's true.
And that kind of like makes mefeel like, okay, our twenties
are literally to be doing this.
Yeah.
Let's true.
Like our twenties are literallyto be figuring out our life
career, figuring out our datinglives, figuring out, and like
you've got the dating life down.
Yeah.
It's really just figuring outyour career.
Yeah.
I've kind of got the careerdown.
Yeah.
It's really figuring out about,you know what I mean?
So it's like, it's like puzzlepieces.
(21:02):
Mm-hmm.
like, like fitting in our littleTetris game.
Yeah, I guess so.
You know?
Yeah.
It's.
It's just hard because when youlike look around and you're
like, okay, I understand I'm inmy twenties, but mm-hmm.
I just, ugh.
I don't know.
Just wanna, well, and what I wassaying wasn't meant to be like,
you can't ever feel sad or like,you can't ever feel down because
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Yeah.
I definitely have and still do.
But it's like,, why did thishappen to me?
Or like, why am I not here yet?
Mm-hmm.
But it's like, we can be sadabout it.
Yeah.
It's okay to feel, I thinkpeople like, which of course we
don't ever wanna be depressed,but I think it's okay to be sad
about things.
Yeah.
And like want to work forthings.
Yeah.
Do you know what I mean?
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Yeah.
That's.
It's just, that's, that's justreally where, where I've been
at.
Mm-hmm.
And I think too, because Iliterally left my last job
because of my mental health.
Yeah.
You know, and then feeling sadagain.
So I'm like, okay.
That also is another reason whyI was like, okay, I need a
therapist.
Because eliminating somethingthat I thought was like, making
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me feel worse.
Oh yeah.
I still like, like I'm.
not that great again.
So, so you're like, maybe it'snot the job.
Maybe it's, I mean it wasstressful.
It was the job, so Yeah, I wasabout to say that was definitely
the job was that point, youknow?
Yeah.
But it just sucks cuz it's like,I just wish that didn't happen
to me.
And it does.
(22:27):
Like, what didn't happen to you?
That I just get like in thesereally deep, um, sad and
depressive like moods.
But Can I say something?
I think that you're trying tolike, Work hard to go against
it, which I think is fine.
Mm-hmm.
But I think allowing yourself toride the wave and also like
doing things to kind of helpyourself, which you are.
(22:49):
Yeah.
Yeah.
But like instead of punish,having like a punishing mindset,
having like a, okay, this is howwe feel right now.
What can I do to feel better?
Yeah, it's true.
Cause I know you probably dothat, but like just kind of
working with it instead ofworking against it.
I feel like that's kinda likewhat I'm trying to do now.
That's what I'm saying.
I feel like you're doing reallygood right now.
Right now I'm trying cuz I knowthat's what, not what I was
doing before.
Yeah.
In the past I think you would'veisolated.
(23:10):
Yeah.
I would just like let it totallyconsume me and so, um, so like
getting the planner and reachingout to people, I'm so proud of
you about.
Thank you.
I really am.
I appreciate that.
It's not easy.
No, it's not.
Say that you need therapy orlike, be honest and real with
yourself, you know?
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
(23:30):
It's really hard.
And, um, so I don't, yeah, Imean that's, that's really it.
I'm just, I'm, I'm trying.
So we're all proud of you.
Thank you.
The, the crying girlies are allproud of you, girl.
The criers, dec cry babies.
Um, I also wanna preface that weare not medical professionals.
No, we're not.
(23:50):
So you.
And, or feel like you need toseek help, please do so.
Mm-hmm.
Um, but you can always talk tous.
Our dms are open, so Oh, 100%.
We're just not therapists.
We're just not a therapist.
We, yeah.
No, not therapists, but dms arealways open.
Mm-hmm.
on no credit on the internet.
Absolutely.
Or like personal, if you have mypersonal Yeah.
Or if you have our email, nocredit on the internet.
dm.com.
(24:10):
Yeah.
you can always message usanywhere.
Yeah.
My, um, fitness Instagram isalways open.
Our dms are always open.
Mm-hmm.
um, it's just no telling, which.
Which one of us you're gonna geton the Honestly, we're just kind
of like, Hey, you should, shoulddefinitely like, yeah, yeah,
yeah, yeah.
Say something A hundred percent.
But yeah, I don't know.
I just felt like I needed tojust be transparent and like
(24:32):
share where I'm at right now.
Because if I came on today andwas just like super happy,
whatever, that's not how I'mfeeling right now.
No.
That, that's not real at all.
So, yeah, and I think beinghonest and trans transparent is
the best way to be.
So, um, yeah, I feel like that'show we've always been.
We've always been, I'd have tosay I think so too.
Yeah.
(24:52):
Whatever has been going on,we're always like, Hey, this is
the deal.
This is what's happening.
Mm-hmm.
um, do you have anything else tosay about mental health?
No, just that, um, if you'refeeling how I'm feeling, we're
gonna be okay.
Yeah.
You're gonna be okay and justtry to make today better than
yesterday in any way you can.
Yeah.
And something I was thinkingabout too is I was like, wow, I
cannot believe it really doestruly get better.
(25:13):
Mm-hmm.
because I was like, wow, Icannot believe.
Sad.
I was just a couple months ago.
Mm-hmm.
sad, everyday crying everymultiple times a day.
Mm-hmm.
Um, but it gets so much betterand like life, I don't know.
I'm gonna get emailed, but itdoes, it gets so much better.
Yeah.
And life gets better and you'llbe okay.
Thanks.
(25:34):
I do.
I I do believe that.
I do.
Um, I'm always here for you,friend.
Thank you.
Are you about to cry?
No, Okay.
I love you.
I love you.
He Okay.
Well, I mean, I'm, I thinkwe're, we're good.
I think that mm-hmm.
this is, you know, a good placeto stop for today.
(25:55):
I hope, I hope y'all got somekind of wisdom from us.
Again, we're not professionals,but, or some nuggets of like
good stuff too.
Yeah.
And just like, oh, okay.
I'm going through that too.
Yeah, like, it do.
I don't have to be alone throughthis.
Mm-hmm.
Well anyway, Ryers, we love youso much.
We sure do.
(26:15):
And we'll catch you next time.
Okay.
Bye.
Bye.
Remy is staring me down rightnow.
Remy?
Yeah.
Hi everyone.
He's one out.
Oh my gosh.
Hi guys.
It's been actually a coupleweeks has been too, right?
Yeah.
I'm sad.
That's crazy.
It, it feels like my first time,like all over again.
I know.
I'm scared.
I'm scared.
Mommy, I'm skilled.
Um, welcome back to the podguys.
We miss you.
Welcome back to my chair, Great.
(00:29):
Um, so.
We decided, well, no, no, no,no, no, no, no.
Wait.
Back up, back it up.
Back it up.
I have a very, Lauren has a verycontroversial opinion to share.
Me and Lauren just actuallyalmost fist fought before this
episode.
Oh, we haven't disagreed thathard.
We haven't disagreed on anythingexcept this, and I will die.
It's so crazy.
It's so crazy.
No.
Okay.
I forgot what it was.
(00:50):
Oh, we were talking about bookclub.
Okay.
So we were talking about bookclub.
Mm-hmm.
And I was like, yeah, we'regoing next, uh, Tuesday.
and or Wednesday, whatever.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And then, um, she was just like,no, like not next Tuesday or
something like that.
And I was like, girl, it's, itwas like two weeks.
It's a new week.
(01:11):
Like it's next week.
No.
No.
Okay.
Lauren is convinced this, it'sSunday when we're recording
this, by the way.
So Lauren is convinced thatSunday to Saturday is.
No, no, no.
Yeah, that's my week.
Monday through.
Here's the thing though.
At first you didn't say, this ismy week.
You just said No.
(01:31):
That's how the weeks.
Yeah.
That is how it goes, Yes, itdoes.
Sunday to Saturday can, canpeople comment on this episode
and please, they're gonna sayit's Monday through Friday or
whatever.
Monday through Saturday, Sunday.
Okay.
I don't even know the week Iwant to be.
Right.
So I need them to commentbecause that's just what
everybody does.
But for me, I do like your I do.
Okay.
Everyone don't comment becauseLauren does have a good reason,
(01:53):
and I want her to feel entitledto her.
I don't have a good reason forthe reason why.
I like Sundays being.
The first day, the start of anew week is because Mondays are
genuinely hard.
Yeah.
And I don't know, it just freaksme out.
They are hard.
It's like Monday starts and it'slike, life just kind of starts
it like jolts you.
Yeah.
And Sundays are just, I don'tknow.
(02:14):
The vibes for Sunday are a good,like first day of the week vibe.
I do like that friend.
Yeah.
I do appreciate that.
She's like, thanks for coming tomy TED talk.
I appreciate that.
I appreciate that.
But you're wrong.
It's so wrong.
No, I, I mean it, it's whatever.
I hope you guys liked our icks.
Um, I was a little unhinged.
She was.
And I think I had a great timethough.
I had a great time.
(02:35):
Yeah.
Um, today we're gonna be talkingabout mental health.
We're like definitely switchinggears cause I've been absolutely
spiraling Yeah.
Lauren's been feeling at y'all.
So we decided to talk aboutmental health.
Yeah.
And just kind of, I don't know,sharing.
The reason I wanna talk about itis just because I feel like when
you're feeling really down, It'sreally easy to forget that the
(02:58):
way you're feeling.
Like other people know what thatfeels like too.
Yeah.
And you can like reach out andlike talk to people.
Yeah.
Especially if people are like methat kind of fold in on
themselves.
Rec clues a little.
I get so deep in my own head.
Yeah.
It's so bad.
I'm the complete opposite.
I know.
That'll talk your entire earoff.
Yeah.
It's just so crazy because Ifeel like some people see me as
(03:21):
that way.
And I think I used to.
I used to for sure.
And now I know you better.
So we wanna talk about mentalhealth.
Mm-hmm.
do you have anything you firstwanna say about just what, how
you've been feeling?
Yes.
So I think the reason why itwas, I feel like I was riding
this high of like, speakingreally positively about myself.
(03:45):
Yeah.
And about my situation and, um,kind of being like, oh, I'm so
lucky.
Everything's gonna work out forme.
And like it does.
That's stuff that we've beenlike it talking about the lucky
girl, Uhhuh, syndrome, whatever,heavy on that.
I was like, okay, you know what,yes.
And I'm starting to come backaround to that again.
(04:07):
Um, but I think.
After a while just because I wasbeing so positive.
Yeah.
I had like something happenedand I just kind of, I don't
know.
It's almost like you're on topof this building and then you're
just kind of like, yeah.
Slowly, like just falling, likethat's like how I was feeling.
(04:27):
I feel like though, do youremember my therapist said, I, I
told you a while back, but Idon't know if you'd remember,
but how like my therapist was,Oh, you were riding on this like
go, go, go high.
Yeah.
And now you've kind of come backto reality.
Mm-hmm.
and you kind of crashed alittle.
Mm-hmm.
And now you're just coasting,which is good.
Yeah.
Like maybe that's what happenedto you.
I don't know.
You kind of had to dip.
(04:48):
Yeah.
And then, yeah.
And then now you're getting tothe point.
I personally believe that you'reon the brink of a breakthrough.
Yeah.
That's just personally what Ibelieve for you.
I know, but I think.
we all go through this, youknow?
Yeah.
Do you wanna touch on any reasonwhy you've been feeling low or
no?
Um, I would say like the thingthat's really been bother
(05:08):
bothering me is like, it'sreally important for me to,
whatever it is I'm doing inlife, that I love what I'm
doing.
Mm-hmm.
Um, and when work starts to feellike work, because I don't have
periods where it doesn't feellike that, I'm like, you know, I
should be just lucky to have ajob.
Yeah.
And be able to actually get upand go somewhere, you know?
(05:29):
Yeah.
Um, but when work starts to feellike that and I'm not happy
doing it, I start to get in myhead, like, almost like talking
myself into thinking I'm gonnabe stuck.
Oh, there.
And I'm like, when?
Like, you have full controlover.
Yeah.
I'm never stuck.
Even if.
Wherever I do end up, if it'snot what I think I should be
doing, it might be better forme, better than I imagined.
(05:51):
Who knows?
Yeah.
But as for what I can see rightnow, it's just, I don't know.
Like I'm okay, but I, I know Icould be better.
Yeah.
Right now I'm okay.
Bef like couple days ago I wasnot doing okay.
I was like freaking out.
I think though, it comes back toanother thing with not having.
like a steady routine.
(06:12):
Mm-hmm.
I feel like that can really f apersonnel.
I know, I know.
Like not having a steady likeroutine.
Mm-hmm.
cuz you're kind of back andforth.
I'm all over the place.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
And so I think that once you cankind of nail Yeah.
Or like dial that in just even alittle bit.
Yeah.
I think that's gonna help you alot.
And I will say too, I do this alot.
It's a really bad pattern and Ineed to quit doing it, but I.
(06:33):
be taking my medicine becausetransparency here, I take
anxiety medicine.
I too hop off, you know?
Um, I take my meds and then I'llbe doing like good.
And I'm like, I don't needthose.
Mm-hmm.
I'm good.
And then something will happenand I like break down.
No, you need to just always be,it's so bad taking them.
I like talk myself out of thinkI need it.
(06:54):
I'm like, girl, you don't need.
The one day I tried to not takethem.
Yeah.
Granted I was already depressedand then I was like, this was
last summer.
Mm-hmm.
And I was like, I, you knowwhat?
I need a challenge.
I just need not take'em.
And I, I know spiral rolled up.
It's little stuff like thatthough, like that's not
necessarily what got me where Iam right now.
But yeah, in the past, cuz thisis a cycle I've been doing No.
(07:17):
So bad.
It's just, I just coast on themnow.
I'm like, it's a nightly thingfor me.
It's so bad.
So that also I think is.
Yeah.
Everything feels so much morelike heavy.
Yeah.
Like everything.
Have you started taking themagain?
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
So maybe in a couple days.
Like it's, I feel like almostlike, I don't know, like the
clouds are parting a lot.
(07:37):
Like tranquilized kind of whereit's kind of like Like you're
just kind of coasting.
Yeah.
Cause it's kind like here.
Cuz I was like down here and I'mlike right now.
Which is better than Yeah.
That's why when you were like,how are you?
I.
like, fine I was like, okay.
Pop off Yeah.
And, and for me, like that's notlike bad.
That's not bad.
Yeah.
(07:58):
Yeah.
Like today hasn't been bad oranything and today's been better
than the other days, but yeah.
You know, we move on and I feellike I've done little things
because I, I, I freak myself outcause I know what it feels like
to be depressed and I don't wantto be like that again.
Yeah.
And so, um, I just have tried tolike do little things.
(08:21):
That I think will help me.
Mm-hmm.
Cause I think some of mytriggers are like when plans
don't go as I think they shouldor Yeah.
I'm like in my brain somethingworks perfectly this way but
it's not happening that way.
Yeah.
So I get nervous and then Ibought myself a planner and did
that help or no?
I'm looking for a therapist.
Yep.
Okay, good.
I mean, it's a habit I'm tryingto get used to, so yeah.
(08:42):
Do you wanna speak on that?
Do you wanna speak on like, cuzI've been in therapy for, I
wanna say four years now.
Four?
Three.
Three, I think.
So kind of like, walk me throughlike what kind of made, if you
feel comfortable sharing, butlike what made you feel like
ready to seek out therapy?
Kind of like all, like how'syour mindset on that?
(09:03):
Um, because I don't reallyremember, for me, I just know I
was kind in a bad place.
I think just, um, coming out oflike at a really depressed state
and then.
Looking back and kind of beinglike, you know what, I might be
sad right now, but I'm not how Iwas then.
Yeah.
(09:23):
And then feeling as low as I didthe other day.
I was like, I scared myself.
I've never seen you that low.
Yeah.
It was bad.
I think I scared myself prettybad.
Mm-hmm.
and um, just scared yourselfbecause you didn't want to go
back into depression.
Yeah.
Cuz it's hard to pull yourselfout of it.
Yeah, a hundred percent.
Like, like I told you before westarted like just feeling.
(09:45):
so bad that mm-hmm.
getting up out of bed justphysically hurts and the way
that I would feel.
So just like overwhelmed if Iwas there last summer, like
mm-hmm.
in my room and just like, yeah.
Sleeping or whatever.
Like, I, I can't do that again.
No, I do not need press.
I wanna be like that again.
(10:05):
Yeah.
So, and then just like talkingto my mom, she's like, cause I
would, I would call her mm-hmm.
I had like a breakdown, like, Idon't even know, like four
times.
Yeah.
In the span of, I don't know, itwas a couple days.
It just was not good.
And so I was talking to my momand she pretty much was just
(10:26):
like, you know, I'm always hereto talk, but you can't just talk
to me.
Yeah.
Like, I'm, I'm not a therapist.
Mm-hmm.
I, I can't, you need like anon-biased Yeah.
Yeah.
She was like, you need to talkto someone that's outside of
that.
Yeah.
So, and I've never talked toanyone about like, the grief
with, from like my dad either.
(10:46):
And so that's like a whole otherthing.
And I know I need to talk tosomeone about it, but I just
don't want to.
Yeah.
I don't know, it's just easy forme to like, not really talk
about stuff.
I don't know.
I like when people talk to meabout their stuff.
So yeah.
I think though that once youstart going and like really
build a relationship with thisperson mm-hmm.
You're gonna love going, becauseI love my therapist.
(11:07):
Like I love going to ther, butit did take me a couple ther,
like therapists before I foundmy, yeah.
Like I love mine.
She's also psychologist, solike, it just, she's a PhD.
A PhD, so it just feels right.
So I'm just trying to like keepat it, you know?
Yes.
Like, Stop when you know, don'tget discouraged.
That's what I told you to do.
Yeah.
Like don't get discouraged ifyou're like, okay, like I liked
talking to her, but you know,some, and I would say like,
(11:31):
which I'm not a therapist expertor anything.
Mm-hmm.
But like if it doesn't feelright off the first one, I
probably wouldn't go back.
Because you don't wanna have tokeep telling the same stories
over and over to differenttherapists.
Cuz I had to do that and I waslike, I do not wanna relive this
with you.
I just want you to know my life.
Yeah.
I just already know it.
Yeah.
And that's the thing too, I'mlike, I just, ugh.
I don't wanna.
(11:51):
dive into all this stuff.
Can't you just know me likeYeah, just, yeah.
But once you find the personthat like clicks mm-hmm.
that's so great.
Yeah.
I love my girl.
So that's like, that's the,that's the goal.
But that's really what kind of,it's, it's a several things, but
mm-hmm.
those things are kind of whatgot me to the point where I was
like, okay, yeah, I cannot dothis, like as an adult.
(12:14):
But yeah, I've just, it's alittle, it's been giving Sad
Girl for like the past twoweeks, and I'm over it.
They're giving sad girl.
Yeah.
I think that's okay though.
Yeah.
I think it's okay to feel sad.
Mm-hmm.
me and my Enneagram for, I'mlike, it's okay.
It's okay.
It's needed.
I don't even know what myEnneagram.
Wait, what?
I don't think so.
No, I think I'm like a four wingfive?
(12:35):
No, no, four wing three,something like that.
Yeah, probably.
I'm a four wing three.
I actually need you to take itlike immediately after this.
I'm gonna make you take it.
Yeah.
I'm a four wing three.
Are you a four wing Three forsome.
I mean, I wouldn't just pullthat out of my ass, you know,
like, can you retake it?
I really need to know.
Um, the questions overwhelm me.
I was like, I would do all ofthese.
(12:57):
Okay, well you heard it herefirst.
Everyone I do think you'reactually in Ingram four cuz you
do like to, that's just strangeto me though, how we're both
ingram's fours, but act sodifferent when we're sad.
Yeah.
I need to call everybody I knowand talk through the situation.
Everybody I know everyone welldifferent people for different
times.
I mean, the people that I'm, Icall you, I mean, I talk to all
(13:19):
you.
I tell, uh, my mom Corey knows.
Um, I don't know.
Yeah, I just, but you also likeare okay with, I think whenever,
like, I was sad last summer, Iwas also with somebody who kind
(13:40):
of didn't really believe indepression or anxiety, so that's
hard.
But also somebody who is like,well, you just need a, you need
a c.
And it's hard.
You need to start 75 hard.
You need to start.
Okay.
Yeah.
And that's hard when you'redepressed.
So I think that that kind ofspiraled me even more like
really small stuff.
And that's the thing too, likewhen you're depress when so
doesn't understand, that's hard.
That's hard to explain.
(14:00):
Cause it's like, no, listen, Iliterally feel like really sad
for no reason.
Yes.
Because the only thing thatwould help me is making a list
for myself and it being like themost.
Like basically get out of bed,like literally shower number one
and get out of bed.
(14:21):
Mm-hmm.
brush your teeth, shower andlike being able the things you
can actually cross off.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like that.
I heard someone say that that'swhat they do and I was like,
okay, like I'm gonna do that.
And then it worked.
Yeah, it worked.
So I did it.
Um, I also think with just likethe weather that we're in too.
Oh yeah.
I think that once the sun comesout, you're gonna feel a lot
(14:43):
better too.
Do you take any vitamins?
You need to.
Yeah.
Like vitamin D especially, we'reall, yeah, we're all low on
vitamin D.
Everybody take it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Just kidding.
I'm not a doctor, huh?
But I mean, I'm pretty, I thinkthat's accurate though.
I think it is too.
Um, magnesium is supposed to bereally good.
Yeah.
Like when you're going to bed,like for stress relief.
I heard that too.
(15:03):
It helps with sleep.
I heard that most women are lowon zinc as well.
Uh, nobody I know Iron is what,and iron.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
Nobody backed me up.
Nobody come for me because,yeah.
I will say like having smalllittle goals, even if it's like
walk for 10 minutes outside.
Yeah.
Or especially when it's likenicer outside.
Mm-hmm.
have you read Atomic Habits?
(15:24):
Mm-hmm.
No.
I don't really read those thingskind of books, but I want you
to.
I know, but it's just hard.
do those kinds of books motivateyou or make you feel like shit?
Like make you, it just makes mefeel like, ugh.
Okay.
Okay.
Because I, they motivate me, butI was hearing another girl's
perspective about how like itmakes her feel bad because she
doesn't do those things already.
(15:45):
Yeah.
And I'm like, that's not me.
It can be really overwhelmingcuz I'm like this, it can't
person that wrote this has to belike a fully.
Developed like Yeah.
You know what though?
Craig Rochelle just came outwith a book I really wanna read.
Mm-hmm it's called The Power toChange.
Mm-hmm And apparently his booksare really good.
I've never read one really, butI do actually want to read this
book.
Yeah, I think it could be good.
(16:06):
I think the reason it's hardtoo, just for me, like I don't
even know if it's really just,oh, it'd make me feel bad.
It's more so just cuz when Iread like.
The way that I'm utilizing it isdifferent.
Like I can be having the worstday possible, and if I'm not in
a reading slump, first of all,that'll make me feel even more
(16:26):
sad if I am in a reading slump.
Yeah.
On top of being sad.
But that's like my number oneway to feel better is read.
Yes.
I feel like reading has beenlike your therapy almost.
Mm-hmm.
in the past.
I think that's why you're solike passionate about it.
Yeah.
Cause it's like helped youthrough so many hard times.
Yeah.
I'm like, you don't like thisreality.
Jump into another one.
Bye.
I know that sounds terrible, butI'm so serious.
(16:48):
Not really.
Cause I feel like that readinghelped so many.
Reading honestly helped methrough my divorce for sure.
Mm-hmm.
I did not wanna read a singlelike fiction book for a long
time.
And then I was like, you know, Iwill.
And then I was like, wait, thisis really fun, It just makes me,
it makes me feel really good.
Just that, I don't know, I don'tknow how to explain it.
Love and like a light and likeso out of my own head.
(17:10):
but like, how have you, how haveyou been?
How have you been feeling andhow have you been just mentally.
Yeah.
Wow.
Mm-hmm.
thanks for letting me talk.
No, I'm just kidding.
you've been interviewing me.
I'm like sick of it.
I know.
I love interviewing you becauseI'm like, you don't open up very
often, so I'm like, give it tome.
I know you gimme everything, butI will if you ask me questions.
Yeah.
Because sometimes I'm like, Idon't know.
And then once I start talking, Iknow, it's like, wow, like
(17:31):
you're such a deep person.
I know like earlier I was like,how are you doing?
You're like, fine.
I was like, uh, you need morethan that Um, I'm doing honestly
Uhhuh friend.
I'm doing.
Good.
I know.
I have not been able to say thatin about a year.
I love maybe more, maybe lessthan that for sure.
Maybe like eight months.
(17:51):
Yeah.
I got really sad over thesummer.
I was sad girl.
No, and I don't think I toldanybody.
That's crazy.
You didn't tell me at all.
I had no idea.
I didn't tell anybody because Ithought you were just busy and
she's living her life.
I'm like, good for her.
I was.
I think I honestly really onlytold.
But I would like call him and Iwould be crying and he'd be
like, do I need to meet yousomewhere?
like, are you bloody?
What is going on?
Yeah.
(18:11):
Yeah.
And so I was just like, I'munwell.
Mm-hmm.
And I think just, I loved myjob, but I got really busy with
my job and then I don't really,I think I just was so isolated
from everyone moving so far awaythat I got really sad.
and then, you know, I obviouslygot divorced.
(18:33):
Mm-hmm.
And so I feel like finally forthe first time in like eight
months, I can say like I'mactually like happy with where
my life is at.
Good.
And I was talking about this onTikTok today, but like I feel
like there's a prevo me and anafter divorce me.
Have I told you this?
Uhuh?
I just feel like I feel.
I feel the same.
Right.
Like characteristic wise andpersonality-wise, I feel the
(18:53):
same, same girl.
But the after divorce me is justfeeling more like myself.
Mm-hmm.
I'm feeling good.
I'm feeling happy in my skin,I'm feeling good.
I'm feeling like I'm becomingmore me, if that makes sense.
No, I think it makes sense.
Do I hate like the dating world?
Yeah.
Am I gonna hate that?
Yeah.
(19:14):
Yeah.
But because you're, I mean,you're like forcing yourself to.
Embrace what singleness thisworld.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I am.
I'm really trying hard to justlike think you're doing a good
job though thank you.
one thing you've really helpedme out with is like, I don't
have to have it all figured out.
Yeah, that's one like, lifelesson you've really taught me
in the last month.
(19:34):
Like I'm just chilling whereverthe wind takes me.
Like I truly, what I told mytherapist, I am coasting and I'm
kind of loving it.
Yeah.
Like I feel like in the pasttoo, like it's been really hard
because I've always felt like Ineeded to be doing more or like.
Making more money, which like Ido really want to focus in on
and hone in on work this year.
But like, I mean, that's part ofwhy I was sad.
(19:55):
So what?
Just like, not like I feel likeI should be making more money,
doing more like that kind ofstuff.
So, but I used to feel like thatand doesn't get you anywhere,
just makes you always feel worsebecause you get to the next
achievement and you're like,Okay, well what's next?
Yeah, that's true.
And so like, now I'm finallygetting to the point where I'm
like, wait, I actually reallylove the life I'm creating.
Mm-hmm.
And like what my future is gonnabe, but like, you know, moving
(20:19):
in with you and like travelingfor my birthday and like us
going on a trip, like I'mlooking forward to those things.
But like, I also genuinely likereally loving my day to day.
Yeah.
And I've honestly never feellike I've never been able to.
It's always been like, what'snext?
And I feel that's how I feelkind of Right, right Now.
Another thing that I wasthinking, or that I saw on
TikTok though was like, why areyou rushing this season of your
(20:40):
life?
Cause you'll never get it back.
That's true.
And that kind of like makes mefeel like, okay, our twenties
are literally to be doing this.
Yeah.
Let's true.
Like our twenties are literallyto be figuring out our life
career, figuring out our datinglives, figuring out, and like
you've got the dating life down.
Yeah.
It's really just figuring outyour career.
Yeah.
I've kind of got the careerdown.
Yeah.
It's really figuring out about,you know what I mean?
So it's like, it's like puzzlepieces.
(21:02):
Mm-hmm.
like, like fitting in our littleTetris game.
Yeah, I guess so.
You know?
Yeah.
It's.
It's just hard because when youlike look around and you're
like, okay, I understand I'm inmy twenties, but mm-hmm.
I just, ugh.
I don't know.
Just wanna, well, and what I wassaying wasn't meant to be like,
you can't ever feel sad or like,you can't ever feel down because
(21:22):
Yeah.
I definitely have and still do.
But it's like,, why did thishappen to me?
Or like, why am I not here yet?
Mm-hmm.
But it's like, we can be sadabout it.
Yeah.
It's okay to feel, I thinkpeople like, which of course we
don't ever wanna be depressed,but I think it's okay to be sad
about things.
Yeah.
And like want to work forthings.
Yeah.
Do you know what I mean?
(21:42):
Yeah.
That's.
It's just, that's, that's justreally where, where I've been
at.
Mm-hmm.
And I think too, because Iliterally left my last job
because of my mental health.
Yeah.
You know, and then feeling sadagain.
So I'm like, okay.
That also is another reason whyI was like, okay, I need a
therapist.
Because eliminating somethingthat I thought was like, making
(22:06):
me feel worse.
Oh yeah.
I still like, like I'm.
not that great again.
So, so you're like, maybe it'snot the job.
Maybe it's, I mean it wasstressful.
It was the job, so Yeah, I wasabout to say that was definitely
the job was that point, youknow?
Yeah.
But it just sucks cuz it's like,I just wish that didn't happen
to me.
And it does.
(22:27):
Like, what didn't happen to you?
That I just get like in thesereally deep, um, sad and
depressive like moods.
But Can I say something?
I think that you're trying tolike, Work hard to go against
it, which I think is fine.
Mm-hmm.
But I think allowing yourself toride the wave and also like
doing things to kind of helpyourself, which you are.
(22:49):
Yeah.
Yeah.
But like instead of punish,having like a punishing mindset,
having like a, okay, this is howwe feel right now.
What can I do to feel better?
Yeah, it's true.
Cause I know you probably dothat, but like just kind of
working with it instead ofworking against it.
I feel like that's kinda likewhat I'm trying to do now.
That's what I'm saying.
I feel like you're doing reallygood right now.
Right now I'm trying cuz I knowthat's what, not what I was
doing before.
Yeah.
In the past I think you would'veisolated.
(23:10):
Yeah.
I would just like let it totallyconsume me and so, um, so like
getting the planner and reachingout to people, I'm so proud of
you about.
Thank you.
I really am.
I appreciate that.
It's not easy.
No, it's not.
Say that you need therapy orlike, be honest and real with
yourself, you know?
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
(23:30):
It's really hard.
And, um, so I don't, yeah, Imean that's, that's really it.
I'm just, I'm, I'm trying.
So we're all proud of you.
Thank you.
The, the crying girlies are allproud of you, girl.
The criers, dec cry babies.
Um, I also wanna preface that weare not medical professionals.
No, we're not.
(23:50):
So you.
And, or feel like you need toseek help, please do so.
Mm-hmm.
Um, but you can always talk tous.
Our dms are open, so Oh, 100%.
We're just not therapists.
We're just not a therapist.
We, yeah.
No, not therapists, but dms arealways open.
Mm-hmm.
on no credit on the internet.
Absolutely.
Or like personal, if you have mypersonal Yeah.
Or if you have our email, nocredit on the internet.
dm.com.
(24:10):
Yeah.
you can always message usanywhere.
Yeah.
My, um, fitness Instagram isalways open.
Our dms are always open.
Mm-hmm.
um, it's just no telling, which.
Which one of us you're gonna geton the Honestly, we're just kind
of like, Hey, you should, shoulddefinitely like, yeah, yeah,
yeah, yeah.
Say something A hundred percent.
But yeah, I don't know.
I just felt like I needed tojust be transparent and like
(24:32):
share where I'm at right now.
Because if I came on today andwas just like super happy,
whatever, that's not how I'mfeeling right now.
No.
That, that's not real at all.
So, yeah, and I think beinghonest and trans transparent is
the best way to be.
So, um, yeah, I feel like that'show we've always been.
We've always been, I'd have tosay I think so too.
Yeah.
(24:52):
Whatever has been going on,we're always like, Hey, this is
the deal.
This is what's happening.
Mm-hmm.
um, do you have anything else tosay about mental health?
No, just that, um, if you'refeeling how I'm feeling, we're
gonna be okay.
Yeah.
You're gonna be okay and justtry to make today better than
yesterday in any way you can.
Yeah.
And something I was thinkingabout too is I was like, wow, I
cannot believe it really doestruly get better.
(25:13):
Mm-hmm.
because I was like, wow, Icannot believe.
Sad.
I was just a couple months ago.
Mm-hmm.
sad, everyday crying everymultiple times a day.
Mm-hmm.
Um, but it gets so much betterand like life, I don't know.
I'm gonna get emailed, but itdoes, it gets so much better.
Yeah.
And life gets better and you'llbe okay.
Thanks.
(25:34):
I do.
I I do believe that.
I do.
Um, I'm always here for you,friend.
Thank you.
Are you about to cry?
No, Okay.
I love you.
I love you.
He Okay.
Well, I mean, I'm, I thinkwe're, we're good.
I think that mm-hmm.
this is, you know, a good placeto stop for today.
(25:55):
I hope, I hope y'all got somekind of wisdom from us.
Again, we're not professionals,but, or some nuggets of like
good stuff too.
Yeah.
And just like, oh, okay.
I'm going through that too.
Yeah, like, it do.
I don't have to be alone throughthis.
Mm-hmm.
Well anyway, Ryers, we love youso much.
We sure do.
(26:15):
And we'll catch you next time.
Okay.
Bye.
Bye.
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