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Speaker 1 (00:02):
you and I are told
increasingly we have to choose
between a left or right.
Well, I'd like to suggest thereis no such thing as a left or
right.
There's only an up or down.
This is the no doubt about it.
Podcast no doubt about it nowyour hosts christy and mark run
k.
Speaker 4 (00:26):
We've got a tight
shot here.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
It's a little tight.
Just scoot in closer to thetable and you'll be in the shot.
Otherwise, it's just a shot ofme, really, which is really
what's important.
Let's be honest.
Speaker 4 (00:38):
Yeah, according to
you.
Yes, very true, let's be honestis right.
Okay, thanks for joining us.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
We were off out for
easter yeah, we went up and got
to see, uh, my family yeah alittle bit and um, yeah, visit
my mom and hit some snow.
I mean all kinds of crazythings.
We heard that we missed a whiteeaster here in albuquerque on
saturday.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
No white christmas
here, but a white easter yeah,
white eas yeah.
When you're out there trying tohunt for eggs, apparently, well
, not totally unexpected.
Let's be careful here.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Well, I understand,
you know guy.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
You're the weather
guy.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
It came at me as a
little bit of a shock.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
That's all I'm saying
.
Well, yeah, well, we knew.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
Breaking news.
I tried really hard because wewon at this location, at this
gas station before, so I boughta ticket right before we left
town.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
We've won $50.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
$100.
Was that $100?
.
I won $100.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
Yeah, which we got.
How many of the numbers?
Four yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
And I think we almost
got the fifth.
Yeah, If we got the fifth itwould have been lights out.
We're done.
Speaker 4 (01:38):
Like 50 grand or
something Interesting, I don't
know.
It was good, it was good, so wehad a good time there, so we're
going to get right to it here.
One thing I didn't include inthe show was the Pope's death,
which I think actually is a veryimportant event, because I
think it's important that thePope, the new Pope, whoever that
is continues to lead in ahealthy Catholic church is good
(02:00):
for the world, in my opinion,and so I hope that we get a Pope
who very much prioritizes thethings that are important to the
vast majority of Catholics onthis planet.
Okay, and so I think that thebiggest part of that is life and
the importance of life andstanding for that and not
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getting involved in politics,and I hope that is something
that continues to occur.
We'll see what happens.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Yeah, this last Pope
did make some waves a little bit
on kind of telling Trump tolower his tune on the
immigration issue.
So I know he didn't rub someconservative Catholics, I think,
especially.
Even it didn't go so well forthem.
They didn't really necessarilyagree with that piece of advice.
Speaker 4 (02:50):
Yeah, and there were
some things that he said that
people just took it politically,which may or may not have been
his intention, I don't know buthe definitely would fall more on
the progressive end of popesversus Benedict and John Paul.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
Okay, so let me ask
you a question Do you think the
odds of an American cardinalbeing chosen to be the next Pope
?
I know this cardinal.
I think he's out of New York.
Speaker 4 (03:11):
Yeah, is that right?
Let me just cut you off there.
The chances are zero.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
Really yeah, it's not
happening.
Why now?
Why is that?
Speaker 4 (03:17):
Because an American
Pope is not going to happen ever
, Uh.
I, I don't.
I don't believe in ourlifetimes it'll happen.
I do think there's apossibility of an african pope,
you know something, because thatthere's a lot of church growth
in africa.
I think that needs to be a realconsideration.
Okay, I think it, you know, butin this country I don't think
so do you can I ask do you have?
Speaker 3 (03:36):
why can I ask you
that?
Speaker 4 (03:37):
like well, I just
think there's a divide in many
cases between some of whathappens in this country and some
of what's going on in Europe.
I think if you look at what'shappening in Europe for
Catholics in general and again,I'm, I, I'm a Catholic, but I
don't, you know, I don't know,okay, so I don't want to pretend
that.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
I'm the Catholic
expert I am.
I'm definitely not.
We should have father Carneyback.
Yeah, he's great.
You know what we're?
Speaker 4 (03:58):
going to do that.
We're going to get fatherCarney back.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
Yeah, he's great.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
You know what we're
going to do, that we're going to
get Father Carney back in herebefore we see a new Pope.
So I want to kind of know whatthe deal is.
Okay, all right, we're gettingFather Carney, and Father Carney
, if you're watching this,you're getting a phone call
because he will.
I know, I know he watches.
So we're going to.
We're going to get him back in.
Yes, absolutely.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
And you better hurry
Cause what I understand is this
conclave before you saw somewhite smoke coming up for that
particular choice and thelongest it's taken was five days
, and that was like in the early1900s or something to that
degree is what I read, and thatonly took five days.
That was the longest one inmodern, like considered modern
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history, which would be like thelast 100 years or something
like that.
So you better get on it.
I know I will Because myunderstanding is within two
weeks of this Pope's death, theystart this process.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
That's my
understanding.
We're getting Father Carneygoing there.
I am not Catholic, but this iswhat I have read about.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, and youcan see that's the white smoke
you're talking about right therefrom 1978.
That would be when John Paulwas named Pope.
Yeah, absolutely, and again, hehe's very conservative.
(05:12):
John Paul was Pope, benedictwas very conservative and as you
go to the pope who just passed,I think you know the
interesting thing is he was verymuch more progressive.
So we'll see what happens.
I mean, most of the people thatare voting on this were named
to, were named cardinals andnamed part of this process by
this, by the pope.
So there's, there's likely tobe, it's going to be interesting
.
There's a push and pull in anyorganization and the Vatican is
no different and the CatholicChurch is no different that
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there's some pull betweenconservatives that want more of
a standard, time-honoredtradition and some that want the
church to emerge into a littlebit of a different direction,
maybe some differences on howthings like homosexuality is
dealt with and things like that.
The abortion issue appears to beone that everyone's on the same
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page, but how strictly do youcome out and say, look, this is
what we believe and if you don'tbelieve this, it's one of the
biggest tenets of the church I,I can say the biggest but one of
the biggest tenants of thechurch.
How do you, how do you backaway from that and how do you
not stand for it?
You know that gets back intohow do you treat your
politicians who say they'reCatholic and they come in and
take communion and they advocatefor abortion up to birth right,
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and then you just say, whoa,what do you do Like?
How does that all work?
So I don't know, but it's aninteresting process and I think
a strong Catholic church isgreat for the world
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no-transcript.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
what happens to
choose the next Pope?
So if you're watching Conclave,it turns out, I think, like 75%
of its total fiction.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
Well, in.
The problem, too, with Conclaveis not how they depicted how
they make a decision.
Oh, I know, the end of Conclaveis one of the worst endings of
any movie I've ever seen.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
Yeah, I think it was
booing in our theater when we
left.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
Oh, everybody walked
out, just going what?
Speaker 3 (07:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
And I think you know
that's the thing that I think
someone or they had a chance tomake a really cool movie about
how the Conclave works.
Cool movie about how theconclave works.
It would be so cool to see that.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
And then no, it's so
secret mark.
They couldn't like, they reallycan't, tell you all the things
that happen, and that's whyHollywood comes in and creates.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
Again, I have no
problem with that.
I have problems when you endthe movie in such a ludicrous
way.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
A given.
It was a gift, it was, it wasit was ridiculous.
It was ridiculous.
That's why we all booed.
Everybody booed in the theater.
Yeah, it was not good.
Speaker 4 (07:45):
It was not good, all
right, so sorry.
So I know we didn't put that inand I do.
I will call father John and I'mgoing to try to get him on
maybe Sunday and we'll see whatwe can do.
Uh, maybe we'll get him thefollowing Wednesday, one or the
other, right?
Do we know when?
Speaker 3 (08:06):
they're going to.
So I don't know how soon ittakes to lay the Pope to rest
and have his services and allthat.
I'm not really sure.
I don't know all that, butthat's my understanding is
within two weeks they start thatconclave.
I'm sure it's to bringeverybody in.
It's all the organization, yeahsure you got to get everybody
across the world close proximity.
They're in the Vatican.
They're different houses, Iguess are put in.
They bring in some doctors,some surgeons.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
Right, right, okay,
all right, manusha no.
Speaker 5 (08:28):
I thought it was
interesting.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
I'm sharing what I
thought was interesting about
the process.
By the way, nobody that's overthe age of 80 gets to vote for
the next pope.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
Okay, and I did hear
and I don't know if this is,
we're sure, giving a lot ofinformation for not knowing a
dang thing about this.
Well, let's nice it up a littlebit guys Okay, all right, so no,
no, no, I mean myself, I don'tmean you at all.
I also am under theunderstanding that they want an
older pope.
They do not want a pope who'ssay, in his early 60s, who could
be pope for 20 years, they'relooking for a pope in his
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mid-70s.
So we'll see if that ends upbeing.
You know what happens, butthat's just one of the things I
heard.
I don't know if it's true.
Who knows?
Speaker 3 (09:05):
I guess we'll see how
young this, uh, this new Pope
is.
Yeah, yeah, but you're notgoing to get like the JD Vance
of Popes you know, like 40 yearold Pope shows up, like the
Biden of Popes, basically.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
Well, you're going to
get it.
Yeah, you're going to get anolder way.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
The other little
little trivia I learned he comes
up with his new name within onehour of being named pope.
Wow, so they make theannouncement they go out there
and they that yep, and whoeverthat is the most senior is the
one that announces the new popeand with his new um name okay,
okay, I love it.
Speaker 4 (09:34):
So there's some
trivia.
And again, pope francis uh,it's someone who I always think
someone like that dedicatestheir life to god, you know from
the age of 17.
Yeah, it's good for him and Iknow there's a lot of back and
forth on from a lot of people inour world who who weren't
always fans of some of thedecisions that were made, but I
think it's undoubtable that hewas a man of God.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
So I think that's
definitely dedicated his life to
service.
So the acts of service Okay,now you're going to bore
everybody now, no, I'm notboring everybody.
Speaker 4 (10:03):
So just a couple
other quick things.
Just, we're going to talk aboutwhat's going on at the
Albuquerque mayor's race.
Super quick, we're not going tospend a lot of time on it, but
there are nine candidates now.
I'm not shocked.
You know, you're doing a heckof a job.
Hey, listen, I am the one, andthat that's why the national
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garden.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
I still stand by that
.
That's why the national guardwas brought in.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
Okay, all right.
All right, I'll get to it, youcan.
You can take credit in a secondwhen we get to the story.
I'm not looking for credit, I'mjust saying you know I'm just
saying okay, okay, okay, hangingout with an alleged trend or
(10:49):
Agua member, yeah, yeah, he endsup, we'll talk about that story
.
We're going to talk about that.
We're going to talk about goingback down to El Salvador to try
to get the MS-13 guy out ofjail see how that goes.
And then we're going to talkabout some electoral stuff, as
some things going on in the oilpatch, and we're going to talk
about the.
The Joe Biden issue is notgoing to go away.
It's only going to get biggerhere in the next couple of
months because Jake Tapper'sbook is coming out and other
books coming out on how badthings were, and we'll touch on
that too, and then a video ofthe day to end things.
(11:11):
But I wanted to start with this.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
Yeah, this is where I
was saying you might bore
people.
Speaker 4 (11:14):
No, I'm not going to
bore.
I think people are going tolike.
All right, fine, Give us thefeedback.
You guys always writing in you,I love it.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
And, by the way, my
chair.
You should mention my chair.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
Yeah, I fixed
Christie's chair.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
Well, okay.
So here's the thing we get alot of your eyes as emails and
responses that I need a newchair because you can see the
duct tape.
So Mark's like, don't worry,babe, I fixed it.
And I'm like, oh, we've got newchairs.
Speaker 4 (11:37):
He's like no, I added
more duct tape.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
Yeah, who's going to
ever accuse us of wasting money
in this family?
Speaker 4 (11:42):
Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
So you know we're
very frugal with our time.
There we go.
Speaker 4 (11:46):
So it's good stuff.
But so we are actually in theprocess of shooting a television
show for a national networkthat will come out probably this
late fall or winter, and we'regoing to announce details on
that as they become availablealthough they're available we're
just not going to quiteannounce it yet.
But part of that show is it'staking place up in the Northern
Mountains in Angel Fire, andpart of the show is we've set up
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trail cams to be part of theshow to show some of the
wildlife up there.
Okay, so I got my first batchof don't don't do this.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
No, it's great.
No, it is great, we've got somegood stuff, okay.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
Ava, are we ready for
this?
Ava, do you?
Okay, good enough.
So here's one deer.
Great we got.
We do have a lot of deer, and Ijust put one clip in of the
deer.
There's a little guy that goesby, just walks by our club.
This is.
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I picked a couple of deertrails in the mountains up there
at about 11,000 feet, and thisis high.
Some of these are pretty hightraffic areas so you can see the
deer roll on by.
And then this was last night,Okay, middle of the night.
And then I get up and I seethis clip.
Look at this, look at this guy.
Can you tell what he is you get.
At first I was like what is?
this until you see his tailuntil you see him and then I it
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it, you can finally tell,because he could still be maybe
a porcupine, and then oh nostinky skunk it is a skunk it's
pepe le pew it is pepe le pewcomes out and joins us there.
That was pretty good stuff.
Now here was was an animal.
About a week ago we couldn'tfigure.
I still don't know what thisthing is.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
This is a Hold on.
Show it first.
Show it, first Show it first weshould ask our viewers to write
in.
I guarantee we have someoutdoorsmen here what?
Is this.
We should have slow-mo'd it Goback.
Speaker 4 (13:29):
Let's go back or what
kind of gets it.
And we know I don't think it'sa squirrel because it's too late
at night.
It's the middle of the nightand you don't see squirrels
around and the eyes look too big.
Ava, one more time, Can'ttotally tell.
Speaker 5 (13:41):
I know what this is.
Okay, I'm going to let you see.
Nobody believes me.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
Okay, what do you
think it is?
It's a marmot.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
I think, it's a
marmot and people have been like
.
Speaker 5 (13:56):
I wonder if it's a
marmot.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
I've been saying it's
a marmot.
Speaker 5 (13:59):
I think, it's a baby
one you can quote me on that
Adult marmot, or it's just asquirrel.
Okay, all right, all right, butif you guys know, what it is we
will.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
we should slow mode
it for you, but anyway.
Speaker 4 (14:10):
Okay, so now to the
big time.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
Yeah, this is not
what I want to see on our lot.
Speaker 4 (14:13):
So this is right up
near where we're doing this
project we're doing.
And, yes, you got four bearsNow I do believe what we have
there is the dark bear in theback is mom, and then I think
you have three yearling bearslike that were born last year
would be my guess and they lookgood.
I mean, show them again here,abe.
They're looking good.
Now, the problem I ran intowith them is that two out of the
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three cameras we have, we havetwo of these cameras.
I don't know what they're doing.
They're eating a little bit ofa little bit of grass maybe, and
then they're kind of lookinglike they're going into some
logs back there.
And then they went to where theother camera is and they knock
it over.
Look at, right here, theyknocked it sideways.
They're all kind of walkingaround knocking things around
well, yeah I gotta put thecamera up higher.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
Yeah, yeah, you did.
And, by the way, these areblack bears.
Speaker 4 (14:56):
I know they look
cinnamon.
People wonder oh my gosh, arethose really those?
These are black bears polarbears.
They are not polar bears andthey're not cinnamon bears.
They're normal bears.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
And then, here's mom.
Kind me a little nervous I'mgoing to be honest, like I get a
little nervous when I see thosebears, I do not believe the bad
rap about bears.
Speaker 5 (15:19):
I do think if this
bear got to know me, we would be
good friends.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
You think so?
Speaker 5 (15:22):
I think if I just
like held on my hand like a
Disney princess, I'd be able topet it and we would bond.
I really do I, I neverencounter a bear, because I will
pet it.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
Well, and I've told
the bear story on this show
before that I've that I ran intoa bear that was unhappy to see
me and, uh, it was aconfrontation of of Epic
proportion.
But this bear is with three ofits cubs, I think I'm.
I mean, some of you guys whobear experts will know and write
us in, but I think that's whatwe're looking at here.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
If you're not a bear
expert, you'll still write in.
Go ahead, drop us a littlemessage there on the YouTube
channel.
Or you can send us an email atinfo at no doubt about it,
podcastcom.
Speaker 4 (15:58):
So sorry.
I know this is kind of weirdand off the trail of what we
usually do, but it's not boring.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
Mark watches game
camera video at night Like other
people's game cameras, like nothis own.
He now has found things onYouTube where he just watches
other people finding animals andthen he I'm like, okay, well, I
guess it keeps you calm beforebed and then you fall right
asleep.
Speaker 6 (16:18):
I mean I'm out like a
light.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
I'm like this, I, you
, you want me to go to sleep.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
You put on a game cam
video and I had to learn how to
where to put the cameras, whatto do well, you're clearly not
learning because I'm getting aton of wildlife right, but the
bear is knocking it down, goingto get down.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
So now you've got to
go replace Like you've got to
put it up higher.
Speaker 4 (16:35):
Yeah, I've got to
move it up higher, and then I've
got to get a thing.
I've got to be able to pivot itdown.
So I get it high enough andthen pivot it down.
The current structure I havenow I can't pivot down.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
And you also get a
camera of these spots.
It works Not.
Some days you get nothing Likeyou know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (16:56):
Most days you get
nothing, but then all of a
sudden boom, so they're allthere, by the way, and your
whole thing of like me justbecause I'm showing them doesn't
mean like the camera doesn'tattract them.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
Just so you know, I
am aware they're there anyway.
Speaker 4 (17:09):
I know it's not.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
It's called a really
bad joke.
All right, let's talk aboutthis mayor's race.
Speaker 4 (17:12):
Yes, so there are now
nine candidates in the mayor's
race.
And so one quick thing ifyou're thinking about, oh my
gosh, am I going to go intoNovember of 2025 having to
choose between one of ninecandidates?
And the answer is probably no,because they have to have a
couple of different things.
To win the mayor's race inAlbuquerque, you have to have 50
percent of the vote.
So if you don't have 50%, soyou have all these candidates.
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However many of them make itinto the general election.
Okay, you have to have 50%.
That's not going to happen.
Okay, so this is going to go toa runoff in December.
Okay, so you're going to havethe early November election
first Tuesday in Novembereverything we're always used to,
right and then you'll haveanother.
About six weeks later, you'llhave another election to decide
who the mayor is.
It's a flawed system becauseyou're not going to have that
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many people voting on the secondmayor's election, right, which?
Speaker 3 (18:00):
is a huge problem and
I thought city council, weren't
they discussing this to try tonot have to have 50%?
Speaker 4 (18:06):
Yeah, they wanted to
bring it down to 40, which I
think probably would get the jobdone.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
But then mayor Keller
vetoed that he stopped it.
Speaker 4 (18:12):
Right, he wants a
runoff.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
He wants a runoff,
okay.
Speaker 4 (18:15):
And so, just so you
know a couple other things you
say will there be ninecandidates?
There are probably not, because, as we take a look at this
article from the journal and yousee this real quote here, the
reason you won't likely see itis because each candidate must
collect 3,000 signatures by June21st to lock in their position.
I will tell you right now, forthese nine candidates, that is
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going to be really hard to do.
3,000 people must live.
You got to live in Albuquerqueand you got to have it by late
June.
I will tell you at least halfof these people will not be on
the ballot.
Okay, it's just hard to do.
You need an actual campaignstructure and money to do it,
because you can't just sit outin front of Albertsons because
you can only sign for onecandidate.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
Right.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
Okay.
So you can't sign for a bunchof different candidates because
you check them, okay, andthere've been people who've
gotten in trouble for forgingthese and forging the $5 stuff
and all that.
You got to be really careful.
And so 3000 is a lot ofsignatures for a mayor's race, a
lot.
So I think the names we'reabout to tell you, half of them,
won't make it.
Just they won't even get thesignatures right so you can
announce for mayor all you want.
The question is, will you getthere?
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So here's our candidates now,just real briefly, and some of
them we know and some wedefinitely don't I have never
heard this person, but it's uhexcuse me if I get the name
wrong alpana adair yeah, I amnot sure she's in human
resources alpana adair humanresources professional uh.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
She worked for
hospitality consulting firm and
moved to albuquerque area threeyears ago.
Speaker 4 (19:34):
Okay, so she's been
here for a full three years.
A full three years.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
The next person is
Mei Ling.
Speaker 4 (19:39):
Armijo, armijo.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
And she's the former
director of economic development
for Bernalillo County anddeputy county manager for
Sandoval.
Speaker 4 (19:45):
County.
I don't know her either.
Never heard of her.
What about?
Speaker 3 (19:48):
Okay then Brian Fajer
.
Speaker 4 (19:51):
Yeah, fajer Fajer.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
Yeah, fajer Fajer, I
don't know, albuquerque resident
does not have a campaignwebsite.
Instead has a sub stack blogcalled La Politica.
Oh, La Politica With a postcalled Brian Fajer for
Albuquerque Mayor 2025, whichalso has a sub heading saying
this is satire, so I'm thinkingthis guy Is that not real?
Speaker 4 (20:08):
So he's not real.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
I'm going to guess
that this guy is not going to be
on the ballot.
That's going to be what I'mgoing to say.
Speaker 4 (20:12):
Maybe not, and this
guy will be Tim Keller.
We're not going to go throughhim.
We all know the glory he'scovered himself in.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
Right, Patrick says,
say well, yeah, yeah.
Patrick sorry, I'm destroyingthese names Ran unsuccessfully
for the New Mexico House ofRepresentatives in 24 and for
mayor in 21.
His campaign website statesthat he's focused on enhancing
public safety and improvingeducational opportunities.
Speaker 4 (20:37):
It is interesting on
these races that are more
localized everybody understandsexactly what the issues are.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
Yeah, they're all
focusing on every single same
issue.
Speaker 4 (20:43):
Absolutely, which is
good because they realize how
terrifyingly serious theseissues have all become.
We're not playing around withstupid issues here in
Albuquerque.
They're all very serious.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
Right, okay, we got
Louie Sanchez, the Louie Sanchez
from city council.
Speaker 4 (20:57):
Yeah, not the Louie
Sanchez who ran for the house
and who ran for the Senate andran for governor and yeah, that
guy, not him.
Yeah, which is a really goodguy, by the way, and I don't
know this, louie Sanchez, this.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
Louie Sanchez is on
city council.
He is from district one Um, andhe has been a critic of Keller
and the police department, andas well as Harold Medina.
Speaker 4 (21:14):
Okay, so who's the
next one guy?
Speaker 3 (21:16):
Okay, the next one is
the one that's the real threat
as far as another Democratcoming in, I think, to Trump out
or to stump out Keller stumpout.
Speaker 4 (21:24):
Yeah, is that a term?
Speaker 3 (21:25):
I don't know.
I make up words all the time.
Speaker 4 (21:26):
Okay, that is like a
blend between out and Trump, out
and Trump yeah, trump them.
Yeah, st going to stump it out.
Yeah, just stump him.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
Okay, I'm going to
make that up.
Let's go with that, right,people?
I mean, come on Critical markover here.
Can't let me read the story.
Sorry, go ahead.
Why don't you just and here letme just destroy this guy's name
too, so that he was getting inthe race.
Speaker 4 (21:43):
This is.
He's a former US attorney forthe District of New Mexico.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
And then, obviously,
when Trump comes in and whoever
has that position.
They always change him outRight, and so I had heard that
this guy was getting in the raceand that was what was behind
Michelle Lujan Grisham puttingin the National Guard to make
Keller look bad.
So this gentleman can use thatas like, hey, we had to send the
National Guard to make thiscity safer.
I'm here to actually take crimeseriously.
(22:20):
That's what I think is going tohappen.
Speaker 4 (22:21):
Okay, so you think
she's supporting you guys?
Speaker 3 (22:23):
I think she will end
up giving her support to
Alexander.
I'm not going to wreck his lastname, but I think that's what's
going to happen.
Speaker 4 (22:30):
You think she's going
to endorse in this race?
No way um yes no, yes, no, yes,she will offer she will know
publicly with keller.
I understand, I don't blame herfor doing it.
I'm just saying she'll get.
Here's what she'll do.
She'll give behind the sceneshelp, fundraising, help, uh it
(22:50):
will be obvious that she's whoshe's helping.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
I understand that.
Speaker 4 (22:55):
But you don't want,
if you're, if you're, if you're
Michelle, you do not want towalk out there and endorse him
and then see him lose to Keller.
You don't want it.
You don't want to put your nameon that.
I think she'll help.
I just think she'll help behindthe scenes.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
What I also have to
say this is just personal
opinion.
Speaker 4 (23:19):
We're not big on
endorsing.
Oh, they don't work.
We don't think endorsementsactually ever really work.
No, but, no, no, no.
But hold on, let's be clear.
I'm not talking about that fromMichelle's perspective.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
She can be incredibly
helpful to him, incredibly
helpful, like sitting in thenational guard to make Keller
look bad.
That's what I think happened.
I'm sorry, but that's what Ithink happened.
Speaker 4 (23:28):
She could also give
him fundraising help.
She could also give him policyhelps.
She could also give him a lookbehind the scenes on where to
hit Keller and where the softunderbelly is there's no doubt
it's really hard to figure thatout.
Well, well, again, she hasperspective, though that nobody
else has got.
When you're working directlywith somebody, you have
perspective, so I think she can.
Oh, this is good, this is agood bet.
We got to put something on thisbet.
So you're saying she publiclyendorses, I do.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
I mean, here's the
either.
I know that you get asked allthe time to publicly endorse and
we're like, we're not Nobodywill care.
Speaker 4 (23:57):
Nobody will care what
we think right or what Mark
thinks.
You care what I think.
You don't care necessarily whatMark thinks.
Definitely don't care whatChristy thinks.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
So yeah, okay.
Speaker 4 (24:04):
All right, all right.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
So are we going to
bet on this Sure out there and
then Keller trying to like oh mygosh, this was always planned.
We secretly asked for this help.
Let me go ahead and tell youthat in a press conference two
days later, after I just toldyou how low crime was and how
great I am Right, no, no, no, itwas all convoluted.
It was such a hot mess.
I stand by the fact that, ifshe's going to go to but I just
(24:33):
think this is all political, apolitical stunt and it's too bad
, which I've already voiced myopinion on this in an earlier
show, so you can watch that ifyou care about it.
I think she will absolutely usethis to be to show, or to like
throw him under the bus, throwKeller under the bus, yeah, I
think.
Speaker 4 (24:49):
OK, all right, she's
coming out in public.
I'm saying no.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
Here's what I think.
I think she sees that Keller isa real risk of not getting
reelected.
She wants a Democrat in thatspot.
Right.
So she's going to endorsesomebody that she thinks could
maybe take him out, no question,and they can still take out a
Republican.
Speaker 4 (25:03):
That's what I think
she's doing.
I agree that you're just takingher thinking and making it
linear all the way.
Replaced, she's going to dothings to help you guys, and
then and then, so she's going toendorse.
I'm just saying she's going todo all those things, but she's
not going to endorse, okay.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
Not going to endorse,
okay.
Well, I will see who's right.
Speaker 4 (25:19):
Yeah, you may be
right on this, I like where
you're coming from.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
I like your logic.
Speaker 4 (25:31):
I I've spoken to
Eddie Good guy.
Nice guy, nice guy, he caresabout the city really wants to
do good things.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
Let me finish.
He's a retired Albuquerquefirefighter and former
California fire chief.
He obviously lists the same sixissues that everybody else
really is listing as well.
And then finally, darren White,who we've had on the show,
former sheriff of BernalilloCounty, his campaign website
saying the same thing.
If you want to hear a littlebit more about Darren White, I
(25:57):
think it's episode 180 or 181 wehad on here, yep, he talked
about everything he wants to do,yeah.
So those are your ninecandidates.
If there's a new one that hopsin the race, we'll be sure to
let you know about that, butagain by June 21st it'll be cut
in half.
Speaker 4 (26:11):
at least it will be
cut in half.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
And I guarantee this,
brian fella-.
I wouldn't be surprised ifyou're Brian's not going to be
on there because this is justsatire.
Okay, gotcha.
So I love that the journal evencovered him.
I know it is funny.
Speaker 4 (26:27):
Well, I do think, I
think you'll have three maybe
four.
Okay, three, maybe four.
We'll see what happens.
I hope we're right on that.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
I hope so too,
because I'd be a jerk.
Speaker 4 (26:32):
If we're not, I'm
sorry about that.
And then the third one would bein Darren White.
Those would be those three, andagain you have two Democrats
versus one Republican.
That's my guess on who getsthere.
Maybe Eddie Varela makes it,maybe he keeps grinding.
He may do it.
So we'll see.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
Okay, so this judge,
we're out of town.
I'm like there was a judge inNew Mexico that was housing an
MS-13 gang member in his house.
Speaker 4 (26:57):
It is a special look,
it's a special honor that we
have here as part of thejudicial system in the state of
New Mexico, and some of theinteresting pull quotes from
this are as follows.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
It says, a New Mexico
judge tendered his resignation
last month I bet he did afterimmigration authorities detained
a suspect with alleged ties tothe Tren de Argoa in his home
during a late February raid.
Federal agents at theDepartment of Homeland Security
had raided former Dona AnaCounty Magistrate Judge Jose
Cano's home on February 28th andarrested 23-year-old Venezuelan
(27:30):
National, christian OrtegaLopez I think that's how you'd
say his name.
Court documents revealauthorities also confiscated
four firearms from the from theCano's daughter's residence,
which they conducted afterobtaining search warrants in
response to social mediaevidence of Ortega Lopez's ties
to trend to Deagua, the ruthlessVenezuelan prison.
Speaker 4 (27:50):
Well, hold on.
How do you even that's thething how do you really even
know that, that he has theseweapons, or that, uh, the judge
is involved?
I mean, there's no way, there'sno way to know that.
I mean that's why I reallywonder about oh my lord, oh lord
, they posted it on facebookyeah, of course they're handing
her over in a.
What's this like a sportingrifle he's got.
Oh my gosh, what is that?
(28:10):
It's a sport.
It's basically a sport rifle ofsome sort.
You know.
Basically, it looks like somesort of.
It looks like a bit of an AR,but I don't know.
Oh, they are together.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
And then they pose
together and they and they post
that.
Speaker 4 (28:22):
Right, right.
But, you don't know.
Here's the thing.
You see, that weapon there, ok,and there are plenty of New
Mexicans was firing that weapon,or that it was his weapon, or
there's.
Speaker 10 (28:35):
Or you have video of
it.
Speaker 4 (28:36):
Or he's posted
himself shooting the by the way.
By the way, this guy talk abouta sharpshooter.
He's like six feet from thetarget and he's ding-ding.
He's hitting this target fromlike six feet away.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 4 (28:48):
Well, very well done.
I don't know how well theytrain the Tren de Waragua
members, but anyway so, yeah, sothis blows up in his face,
ridiculous right?
Speaker 5 (28:57):
Do we know the
relationship between the judge
and the guy?
Are they like?
Is it like a family friend?
Speaker 4 (29:01):
Well, there may be a
link to the daughter.
I don't know, he's friends withthe daughter, he's like a son
to me situation.
Well, yeah, I think it's so.
He initially did some work atthe house, then he ended up
moving in, and then there's alink to the daughter and so we
don't know, he's a roommate andthen, I don't know, maybe he's
just paying rent to the judge I,I don't know, I don't know.
(29:24):
I don't know either if you'vegot a gang member.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
If you've got a gang
member here illegally too, on
top of everything, and you're ajudge, you just blew up your
career to house this cat.
Speaker 4 (29:33):
Yeah, why would you
do that?
It just shows the poor judgment, and this guy's been a judge
down in Dona Ana County for thebetter part of 15 years.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
Well, we'll see what
happens, what actually shakes
out.
Maybe there's something here,we just don't know, but it sure
doesn't look good from theoptics right now.
Speaker 4 (29:49):
No, and this has
become the central issue, which
is you know what is going onwith these gang members in the
United States and what'shappening with some of our
political leaders, who continueto go out and try to defend them
versus defending the peoplethat are victims of these
violent crimes.
Right, chris Van Hollen, thesenator from Maryland who went
(30:14):
to landed in San Salvador, wasin El Salvador, went and met
with, obviously, the guy thatwas chucked in jail, the
Maryland man.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
Maryland father, yes,
the.
Speaker 4 (30:24):
Maryland father.
Yeah, Kilmar Borrego Garcia,right, Okay, so he goes down
there, meets with him and doesall the just some of the worst
political instincts I've everseen from any politician ever
goes down there and remember andwe'll get into what this guy
did again just to be clear, okay, that he absolutely was found
by two different judges to haveconnections to MS-13.
And it's undisputable that hebeat his wife multiple times and
(30:48):
she filed police reports on it.
So, yeah, that's the guy to godefend, but, of course, because
there's always a line to be thenext moron who goes and does
this, we have it again and inthis particular case it's
Congresswoman Maxine Dexter.
She went down, she had to getdown to El Salvador.
She's got to figure this thingout.
Let's get this MS-13 guy backto the United States as quickly
(31:09):
as possible.
Please, Congresswoman, lay itout for us.
Speaker 13 (31:13):
Congresswoman Maxine
Dexter, here, coming to you
from El Salvador.
I flew here last night withthree of my colleagues to demand
that Kilmar Obrega-Garcia bereleased.
He's being held in violation ofa Supreme Court order expressly
telling the Trumpadministration to effectuate and
facilitate his coming home.
(31:33):
That is being ignored.
This is not just a threat toall people in the United States
who could be illegally abducted,detained and transported
internationally against theirwill, but it is a fact that our
president does not recognize thebranches of government and the
(31:54):
balances of power.
This is what we all have beencalling a constitutional crisis,
yet it is more severe thananything we've seen.
We cannot stay silent.
We must stay loud.
I am here because I refuse towait for something to happen.
We are here to release KilmarAbrego Garcia.
Speaker 4 (32:16):
She is breathtakingly
ignorant.
The threat to people in thiscountry, especially in a state
like New Mexico, is rising crimerates and the threat to people.
Where people don't feel safe intheir homes, they don't feel
safe when they go out, theydon't feel safe after the sun
goes down.
That's a real issue in thisstate.
You have a border that's beenthrown open by an administration
(32:37):
, the Biden administration.
They completely had no regardfor the law and she goes out and
thinks this is the issue of ourtime.
The stupidity is staggering.
It really is staggering to seeher sit there, stand up and say
this is so much worse than weimagined.
Ma'am, you have no idea.
You have no idea what it's liketo live and be scared in your
(32:59):
community because crime is outof control.
You have no idea what it's liketo live in a place where there
has been murder after murder andpeople are not safe in their
own homes.
It's outrageous.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
And this guy also has
the tattoo on his hand of being
a member in this gang, right?
So it's not like they'reguessing.
There's also been two judicialor two judges immigration judges
that said he's a member of thegang and he should be deported,
and that was in 2019.
Speaker 4 (33:27):
Right, right, he had
a deportation order.
Speaker 3 (33:29):
He had a deportation
order.
So the only mistake again we'llclarify this again the only
mistake was that he was notsupposed to be deported back to
his home country of El Salvadorbecause of a state risk.
That he felt like he threw likethe last shot.
At the very end, when he knewhe's going back, his attorney
came in and said hey, he'sscared for his life, so just
don't send him back to ElSalvador because of a threat
(33:49):
from some gang.
Well, now that gang has beentaken care of by the El Salvador
president.
So even if he was brought home,he would be deported right back
to El Salvador.
I just don't understand howpeople are misunderstanding this
.
Also, the Supreme Court hasalso interjected their thoughts
on all of this.
Who these Congress people arethat think that there know
executive authority, executivepowers overshooting?
Speaker 4 (34:11):
It's funny that they
want district court judges to
have more power than thepresident.
By the way, talking aboutseparation of powers, right,
that's ridiculous as well.
Now, but she's not the only one.
So the brilliant Robert Garciahe's from California, I believe
he decided he was going to godown there and he's again going
to make the stump speech for theMS-13 guy, and he's again going
to make the stump speech forthe MS-13 guy.
Speaker 7 (34:34):
The point is that
Donald Trump is defying a 9-0
decision of the Supreme Court tobring Kilmar Abrego Garcia back
home to the United States.
Lower courts have affirmed thatthe administration has said
they sent him here by accidentand this is a massive due
process crisis in our country.
Donald Trump cannot defy theSupreme Court.
Speaker 4 (34:50):
We've got to raise
the attention not just in the US
but here, and demand hisrelease.
Okay, so notice what he saysthere.
Same exact verbiage from hiscounterpart in the House as well
.
This is a crisis.
This is not a crisis.
But as long as you guys go outthere and are so out of touch
with how people live and theissues they think are important,
(35:11):
as long as you stand up and saythat an MS-13 member going back
to his home country is a crisis, a guy who absolutely it's
without dispute, if you believehis wife that he beat up his
wife in addition to being amember of the gang, it's just
ridiculous.
And so this is the sort ofthing that's nuts.
Well, they keep on going.
Ryan Schmelz has this.
(35:32):
He's one of the Fox Newsreporters in Washington DC.
He tweeted this A group ofHouse Democrats have written a
letter to Secretary Rubiorequesting daily proof of life
for Kilmar Obrego Garcia perRepresentative Yassin.
Sorry, it comes after a visit toEl Salvador in meeting with
officials at the US Embassy.
So these guys want proof oflife.
(35:54):
Did you hear any of them standup for Lake and Riley and say
the same thing?
Did you hear any of them?
No, they didn't say anything.
It's all political theater andthey are standing up for someone
who is very clearly doesn'tbelong in this country.
And so go ahead, keep going.
They should keep going.
(36:15):
I think they should keep onrolling because they're doing
great.
Stand up there every time andcall it a constitutional crisis
when we ship out an MS-13 memberwho beat up his wife, and
you're standing for him.
Keep going.
You guys are doing great.
Keep rolling.
It's unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (36:32):
Well, let's take a
listen to this.
A little bit over on CNN, alittle bit of a conversation on
this, this roundtable discussion.
I think this put it more inperspective, just for you to
hear what they have to say inthis roundtable.
Speaker 4 (36:44):
Well, yeah, it's
Batia Ungar Sargon.
She's really good on theseissues and she lays it out
pretty clearly.
Speaker 12 (36:51):
He did have due
process.
Everything we know about him isdocumented because he did go
through the court systems.
He was stopped for trafficking.
His wife did file thesedomestic violence charges
against him charges against him.
(37:13):
He was arrested with MS-13members with a roll of cash that
had the eyes and the ears andthe mouths of the presidents
erased, which is an MS-13markings.
This is all non-disputed.
Speaker 14 (37:18):
American looking at
this case.
A lot of conflictinginformation.
Okay, I believe some.
I don't believe.
An illegal alien came here in2011 and somehow in 2025, he's
still here after having beenthrough the court system, after
having been arrested with lotsof people in his car, after
having all this evidence?
Speaker 10 (37:36):
Why didn't Donald
Trump deport him?
He just did, and noweverybody's mad about it.
Why didn't Donald Trump deporthim?
Speaker 14 (37:41):
Why didn't he take
advantage of our system for 14
years and not get away.
Speaker 3 (37:45):
Okay, well, I need
your help in clarifying
something.
We need your help in clarifyingsomething because when you
actually go in and Google andyou try to figure out what the
Supreme Court say about thisparticular case, does Trump have
to bring this guy back from ElSalvador?
It's confusing.
Speaker 4 (37:59):
It is confusing.
So it says the US mustfacilitate his return.
If El Salvador wants to sendhim back, ok, the United States
can't go in there.
Tell El Salvador look out here.
We come into your max, supermax prison and we're going to
come in guns, a blazing, to takethis guy out of here.
He's a Salvadoran citizen, he'snot a United States citizen.
(38:19):
So we don't get to go in thereand send them home.
Home isn't here, home is in ElSalvador.
So if we were to go pull himout of this prison, we would
basically be stomping all overtheir sovereignty.
And number two no districtcourt gets to stand up and tell
the president what he is goingto do in El Salvador.
They have no right to say thatto the president of the United
(38:41):
States.
None, they have no standingthere, zero.
And my understanding is ElSalvador said just to end it, if
El Salvador said we don't wantthis guy here, he's got to go,
then.
So if El Salvador said just toend it, if El Salvador said we
don't want this guy here, he'sgot to go, then that gets into
it.
Then the US says fine, here's aplane.
Right, here's a plane.
And then you could absolutelymake the legal case that you
could fly him somewhere else.
Speaker 3 (38:59):
By the way, Okay, not
necessarily back to the US.
Well, what I heard is that theywould fly him right to another
country.
Speaker 4 (39:18):
Another country, yeah
, so, regardless of this, this
guy is legally out of the UnitedStates.
It's not saying that theSupreme court said that Trump
has to go get him for clarity.
In no district court anywhereon the planet, whatever,
whatever, have the ability totell the president okay, go on
into the Ukraine, let's go aheadand add some, let's go add
Stinger missiles to what theUkraine is doing, what these
guys I mean.
This is where the overstep byso many of these district court
judges is out of control.
So, and by the Trumpadministration saying, hey, we,
(39:41):
we, we mistakenly sent him to ElSalvador, versus where we could
, where they could have sent himto Mexico or they could have
sent him somewhere else.
They didn't do that.
Okay, still, this is ridiculous,it's still all ridiculous, it
really is.
And this fight over and this isthe hill they're dying on is a
ridiculous hill to die on.
You can hear Batia say it, youcould hear Scott Jennings say it
.
It's keep doing it, just keepon rolling.
(40:03):
I mean it is bad news and theyare just choosing the wrong hill
to die on.
It's just it's a terrible issueas well.
All right, one of the thingsabout this last election it was
interesting was how well it kindof a little pivot here on just
a quick political point.
Some some data came out on howthe election went between Trump
and Kamala Harris, with minoritymen and especially, most
(40:26):
specifically, black men andHispanic men, and it's some
interesting numbers.
Trump did better than anypresident on the Republican side
has done, I think it, at thevery least since Nixon.
Uh, in the numbers where he gotabout almost 20% of the black
vote.
But if you look at the numbersacross the country, still,
harris won black men in everystate in the country.
(40:46):
Okay, she went 50 for 50.
Okay, but Trump's numbers werebetter than they've been,
however, for latino or hispanicmen.
Look at these numbers and youcan see trump won all but
california, illinois, new york,massachusetts and maryland and
maybe, yeah, even won hawaii.
It's unbelievable, yeah it'sjust hispanic men.
(41:09):
Now hawaii, there aren't thatmany Hispanic men in Hawaii, but
still, you know, overall herein New Mexico, he won.
New Mexico clearly won.
Texas won.
Colorado won.
Utah, won Arizona.
Those are impressive numbers.
So this is so, when you startlooking at where Republicans are
going to try to build theirfuture, it is around Hispanic
(41:30):
and Latino men, because that's akey part of this.
And so just something to thinkabout and some interesting
numbers.
And then you go see how thesebattles are going, you know, and
what issues Democrats jump onand decide, hey, we're going to
fight for these issues.
If you're a working Latino orHispanic man and you're seeing
this, you're going what, whatare you doing?
Speaker 3 (41:49):
So interesting stuff.
Yeah, it's interesting to seewhat the future will go with the
party where they'll put theirattention to right the
campaigning.
Okay, we're going to jump shipto a totally different topic Now
.
Now we're talking about China,right, and basically like how do
we extricate ourselves awayfrom China, especially with all
these trade discussions?
and like this is yeah the backand forth and the reliancy on
China and businesses that aredoing business in China and how
(42:11):
frustrating they are and allthat stuff.
This was kind of an interestinglittle clip where we had Doug
Bourbon talking about how.
Basically, I'm sorry.
Speaker 4 (42:18):
There you go.
I know I knew I said it, butDoug, Bourbon is fantastic.
I didn't say Bourbon, thatshould be his name, I just Doug
Bourbon.
Speaker 3 (42:28):
I'm going to call him
Doug Bourbon from now on.
I think it's a pretty cool name.
Anyway, Doug Burgum talks aboutthe necessity of mining copper
and other rare earths here inthe US versus just being
completely reliant on China.
So take a listen to this clipwhere he talks about that
specifically.
Speaker 9 (42:44):
So you've said you
have confidence in the
president's tariff strategy.
Obviously China is one of thebig sticking points here in the
president's tariff strategy.
Obviously China is one of thebig sticking points here.
And this idea of rare earthminerals we get most of ours
from them and I know we havedeposits here.
But I was surprised to readthat even some of what we mine
here we send to them forprocessing and then it comes
back to us.
What can we do domestically tocut China out of that equation?
Speaker 6 (43:06):
Well, shannon, you've
got it just right because
there's both the material andthen the processing, and this
began back you go back to ObamaBiden administration.
We've basically been a war onmining in this country for
anything, not just rare earthminerals, critical minerals, but
base minerals that we wouldhave.
And so under President Trump,it's not just drill, baby drill,
(43:26):
it's going to be map, baby map,which is we've got these
materials in our country, butthen also mine, baby mine, and
what President Trump is gettingdone right now.
And there's one project whichis going to be announced, a
resolution copper mine.
This has been a 30-year saga interms of getting permitting and
in three months President Trumphas got this rolling again.
(43:48):
And, of course, copper is keyfor electronics, it's key for
military uses, and we've alsothere's a special under the
powers of the emergencyauthorities, the energy
emergency have, which includesthe critical minerals that
President Trump wisely put inplace.
On day one.
There had been only two miningprojects ever that had been put
on under an authorityAST-41,which is an accelerated
(44:11):
permitting.
President Trump added 10 moremining projects to that this
week and all of these things aregoing to help us in the
competition against China, who'sreally cornered the world
market around many of theseimportant minerals.
Speaker 4 (44:24):
Okay, so this puts us
into the discussion a little
bit of what's going on with theeconomy right now, which is it
is quivering.
It's a little bit of you knowwhat's going on with the economy
right now, which is it's it isquivering, it is dicey and this
is what we've said before.
It is Trump's biggest challengethat he's trying to play the
long game in a world, in acountry especially, where people
look at the economy in theshort term, and it's a huge
(44:45):
concern.
But, but one of the things wehave to do in no matter what
side of the aisle you're on, youhave to realize, especially if
you're on the left, you have torealize you're going to have to
dig in this country.
You're going to have to do that.
If you want to make chips hereand you want to make a lot of
the things that we need to runheck EVs, you've got to dig.
You have to Like.
You don't get to not dig rightand just magically have this
(45:08):
energy.
Magically, right, and justmagically have this energy
Magical, have lithium to show up, right, it just doesn't show up
, and that's not how it works.
You got to dig for cobalt, likeyou have to dig for these
things, and so and we have to dothat in this country so you
either have to get serious aboutit, and if you want to have
those things, you got to do it.
You know we can't possiblycontinue to rely on fossil fuels
(45:32):
.
We want to rely on all EVs.
Okay, you ready to dig?
No, okay.
Well, what would you like to dothen?
Because there is no answer,because they don't have an
answer.
So, realistically, it's a bothapproach, right, so use oil and
gas, which we're going to getinto here in a second.
But then also the dig, baby,dig situation is one that has to
be done.
We cannot rely on China forthese things, and we're in the
(45:53):
middle of a trade war with China.
Is that going to continue toescalate?
If it does, there's going to besome pain felt here and there's
gonna be a lot of angry people,and so Trump's in a tough spot
on that and he's going to haveto find a way out of it, and so
far, you know we haven't seenall these deals being signed yet
, so we'll see.
Will they be signed?
I don't know, but Doug Bourbonwas interesting in the respect
that number one.
Bourbon is a much better nameand I think when he comes in and
(46:18):
he has a smoking jacket on andyou call him Doug Bourbon, it's
like yes.
Speaker 3 (46:20):
I didn't even call
him Doug Bourbon.
Speaker 4 (46:22):
Yeah, you did.
I called him Doug Bourbon,which is great.
So we'll see.
Speaker 3 (46:26):
What I'm hearing
again along with these trade
deals, and again we don't know,because we're not experts on
this, but that the understandingis that most countries are
going to come to make some sortof deals and negotiate.
China is going to be the onethat's going to be the toughest
deal to make between the twocountries, but eventually they
do believe that will actuallyhappen, because China does need
the American marketplace and weneed them.
Speaker 4 (46:48):
And we can't totally
extricate ourselves from them,
at least not initially.
So we'll see, I mean, but thatis yeah, that's by far.
Look, if something's going totake down this administration,
it's going to be the economy.
It's what got them elected andso they got to handle it well.
So they've been doing a lot ofthese other ancillary things
which are important, but youbetter figure out the economy.
Yeah, very quick, better figureout how it goes, all right.
(47:08):
One other thing I thought wasfascinating is reading the wall
street journal interestingarticles.
So this is one of those thingsthat you may not realize, and we
have some friends that areinvolved in this business, and
so it's.
It's really fascinating to me.
It says the oil patchesManhattan project, how to fix
its gargantuan water problem.
Okay, and this is what you can.
Go into the wall street journaland read it, and there's a
bunch of quotes here.
(47:28):
I won't read them all, buteffectively it breaks down to
this when you pull a barrel ofoil out of the ground, you're
also pulling out about fourbarrels of water, which is not,
you know, it's a very brackish,very salty, got a lot of
chemicals in it water, okay.
So you got to do something withthat water.
Okay, now, in a lot of cases,what they've been doing is
(47:48):
pushing the water back intowells, different wells, to put
it back into the ground, ok.
But now they're realizing,running out of room to do that.
We don't have as many of theseunderground well places that we
can put it into some structures,especially geologic structures,
that can hold all these things,ok.
So they've got to findsomething to do with the water,
and so what they're trying tofigure out is what do you do
(48:10):
with it?
Can you clean it up enough toreuse it?
That's the ultimate goal Reuseit right, reuse it and clean it.
They're working on that.
Exxon is working on anevaporation program where they
go in and they evaporate thewater more quickly and in fact
we have a little picture, ava,if you go and look at clip 29
and they, they evaporate thewater more quickly and they can
(48:32):
end up evaporating this waterabout twice as quickly as they
could otherwise.
The problem is, or three timesas quickly even as they as they
could otherwise.
So that's one of the thingsthey're working on evaporated
out, and then the solids thatare left behind you can dispose
of.
But it's just one of thoseinteresting things, and it's a
huge, huge deal for New Mexicobecause we are the number two
(48:53):
producer of oil and gas in thecountry and we have the best oil
and gas industry in the world.
So this is one of the thingsthey're looking at is how do we
get this to the point now?
We're not pushing it back intothe ground, we're cleaning it,
hopefully Now.
Right now, the evaporationprojects and the cleaning
projects cost about twice asmuch as putting it back in the
ground, so you've got to be ableto get that cost closer to
where it needs to be.
(49:14):
But this is where innovation isimportant.
It's why I think down the road.
Energy sources like fusion arecritical.
Right, innovation is going tosolve all our energy problems.
Innovation has solved our oiland gas problem.
We didn't have enough of it ata certain point.
Innovation like fracking solvedthat right.
So this is just another one ofthose things that needs to be
solved and it's interesting.
(49:34):
So just something to thinkabout.
It's happening.
Some of those experiments arehappening in New Mexico and West
Texas and they're going tocontinue to.
But the water issue is a realone.
We also have a water problemjust overall water problem in
the state of New Mexico.
We don't have enough, for abunch of different reasons, but
just one of those things tothink about.
But this is the difference.
This is produced water.
Really, it's not pure water.
(49:55):
But can you take produced waterand turn it into water?
You can water your lawn withyou can water.
A golf course with it definitelycan be done.
The question is at how muchcost, and that's some of the
work that's being done by Exxonand others to figure out how to
do that most efficiently.
Speaker 3 (50:11):
Okay, All right.
Well, we've got a lot of bookscoming out on Biden, Right.
The big mystery of you know wasBiden in poor health all along,
and people covered it up.
Did the media know?
Did people that worked aroundhim, did they know?
Well, now people are in booksand kind of just putting it out
there.
However, this is an interestingI believe this was a uh podcast
(50:32):
it was where they had senatorwarren on and they asked her
directly, direct questions aboutwhat she had said about biden.
They put her in the hot seatand they basically wanted to say
listen, you said biden was fine.
Speaker 4 (50:45):
You, you got up and
basically said biden's doing
great yeah, and this guy'sinteresting because he's of the
left, right, so he's definitely.
Speaker 3 (50:53):
Well, let's be honest
, that's the only reason she's
talking to him.
Speaker 4 (50:55):
Well, true, Very true
.
She's not going into a beartrap to talk about, you know
some far right podcaster.
Just wait, we'll play.
We got to stop this video likeafter the first little exchange
because wait till you see him.
Ask her in the expression onher face is he as sharp as you?
You?
Just watch what she does.
This is a hilarious exchangebetween these two, and the
(51:18):
podcaster is Sam Fragoso, andgood for him for just pushing
back and having a normalconversation that every human
being should be allowed to have,versus being so far to one side
or the other that you can'thonestly call out what needs to
be called out.
So this is good stuff.
Speaker 2 (51:34):
Do you regret saying
that President Biden had a
mental acuity?
He had a sharpness to him.
You said that up until July oflast year.
I said what I believe to betrue.
And you think he was as sharpas you?
You're a watcher.
Speaker 8 (51:50):
She literally laughs.
I said I had not seen declineand I hadn't at that post you
did not see any decline from2024 Joe Biden to 2021 Joe Biden
.
Not when I said that.
You know, the thing is he, look, he was sharp, he was on his
(52:14):
feet.
I saw him Live event.
I had meetings with him acouple of times.
Speaker 2 (52:18):
Senator on his feet
is not praise.
He can speak in sentences isnot praise.
Speaker 8 (52:27):
Fair enough, fair
enough, look, it is.
The question is what are wegoing to do now?
Speaker 4 (52:36):
Okay, I mean nothing
right.
Speaker 3 (52:39):
The question is how
do I spin myself out of
answering this question?
Speaker 4 (52:44):
I mean, and I do give
her, I give her credit for
being like okay, you got me Like.
I got nothing, I got nothing.
Speaker 3 (52:49):
I got nothing Because
she's like he was walking.
Speaker 4 (52:51):
He stood there.
Speaker 3 (52:53):
He stood up and he
walked.
Yeah, which is what everybodywants in a president, right yeah
can he walk by himself?
Speaker 4 (52:59):
and I look good for
him for asking her.
I wouldn't even call it thetough questions, just the simple
questions and they kind of lookat you like.
Speaker 3 (53:06):
His face is like
really like when she's like well
, I believed it at the time.
Speaker 4 (53:10):
And he's like no, but
, but at the time she was not
the only one.
No, so, so, let.
So.
Let's go to cnn, and just justa little, because again cnn's
own jake tapper has a bookcoming out on this.
This is not going away.
This is all going to comeflooding back here in the next
few weeks.
And so, cnn.
Speaker 11 (53:27):
This is what they
were doing just before the
presidential debate and whatthey're doing now president
biden has spent days locked inintense preparation, surrounded
by his closest advisors at CampDavid, and our sources are
telling us tonight that fullmock debates are underway at the
podium under the lights.
He's even watching tape to knowexactly what he's going to see
(53:47):
when he steps up to that lecture.
His team shot a video during awalkthrough of the CNN studio
and, as I reported whilecovering him at the White House,
when Biden prepares he does soincredibly intensively.
Speaker 10 (53:59):
So just how worried
were Biden aides before the
former president's disastrousdebate last summer?
According to Ron Klain, hischief of staff, his concerns
could not be overstated.
At his first meeting with Bidenfor debate, prep quote Klain
was startled.
He'd never seen Biden soexhausted and so out of it.
Biden was unaware of what washappening in his own campaign.
(54:19):
Halfway through the session thepresident excused himself and
went off to sit by the pool.
Part about the pool he went off.
This is in the middle of debate.
Prep went off to the pool andhe took a nap.
Speaker 4 (54:30):
OK, caitlin Collins
literally says there, when Biden
preps Biden's intense, look out, here we go, and then you find
out it's all garbage.
It's all complete and totalgarbage.
Yeah, and honestly, the bias inthis is wild.
Speaker 3 (54:46):
I also think it's
interesting to see that Jake
Tapper, one of the biggestdefenders of Biden, is the one
that's writing a book andputting it out there.
The biggest defenders of Bidenis the one that's writing a book
and putting it out there.
I'm like, are you going to behonest with your public then and
say we were all kind ofquestioning, you know, can this
guy still get the job done?
Is he still got the acuity thatwe were all needing in a
president of the United States?
I think that's going to beinteresting if he's authentic
(55:07):
and he's actually honest topeople in that book, but at the
same point that if he does that,then he's kind of a hypocrite
because he's out there like youknow, oh Biden, he seems sharp
and doing all this.
I mean, I just think it'sinteresting.
You know, I hope that heinterviewed people like oh, I
don't know, morning Joe, morningJoe, who just couldn't talk
more.
You know, amazing how amazingBiden was in this whole time and
(55:30):
how sharp he was.
Best Joe Biden moments beforethe debate.
Speaker 4 (55:33):
Well, we'll see.
But the reason we put that inis just because it's not going
anywhere.
Get ready, because these booktours are going to happen.
Everybody's scrambling forcover on this and you just saw
where Elizabeth Warren hadnowhere to go with it.
She knows it.
I mean, this is why it's such adamning thing.
And for the media it's such adamning thing because they spent
so much time helping to coverit up, yeah, and now they want
(55:54):
to be trusted and say, oh no, no, you got to trust us.
That's Trump stuff, daughter,whatever, it is Right, the
Hegsess stuff, right, theHegsess stuff.
Where, oh my gosh, here he goesagain on signal and he's saying
all these things, he's got togo.
And then you got Biden, who wasclearly infirmed, and you
(56:20):
didn't say a word about it.
And now it's every tiny littlething.
It's like okay now, to methat's not what takes down Trump
If he has issues.
What takes down Trump if he hasissues is going to be the
economy.
So we'll see what happens withthat.
But you have one last kicker.
Speaker 3 (56:33):
Okay, yes, I didn't
know you were going to put this
in the show.
I just sent this to you for fun.
Speaker 4 (56:35):
Oh, I think it's
hilarious.
Speaker 3 (56:36):
Okay.
So it's just.
I thought it was so funny, kindof cute.
It's just these animals thatyou would not expect to make the
sounds that they actually make.
So we're going to just playthis little reel and, if you're
just guess what animal it is andwe'll just say it out loud so
you can actually know.
But for those of you that arewatching, you might get a little
kick out of this.
I thought it was kind of ahappy little thing.
That's an elk.
Speaker 4 (56:59):
We know that, Like
we've heard that a million times
.
Speaker 3 (57:03):
That's a cheetah.
That sounds cute.
Yeah, cheetahs can't roar.
Speaker 4 (57:13):
That sounds like
those of the clown, but it's a
penguin.
Speaker 3 (57:17):
Everybody that's Tim
Allen, oh no it sounds like a
pig, but it's a koala.
Speaker 4 (57:22):
Yeah, that's crazy.
What is that?
I don't know, because the namegets cut off.
Speaker 3 (57:30):
Oh, this one Is it.
Speaker 4 (57:32):
It's a hyrax.
Speaker 3 (57:33):
Hyrax.
It sounds like our girls whenthey're fighting.
And then this is a Lemur.
A lemur, these things are.
That's a white bell bird.
That's a crazy noise.
There's your marmot, that's amarmot everybody.
Speaker 5 (58:00):
That's a bald eagle.
Bald, bald eagle.
Sounds like he's laughing.
Wow.
Anyway, I thought that was fine.
The bird is an australianbustard.
Speaker 4 (58:04):
Oh, an australian
bustard.
Wow, that thing soundssignificant yeah, they're
descended from dinosaurs okay,oh, look at it all birds, all
birds are yeah okay, all right.
Speaker 5 (58:12):
Well, we started with
wildlife, we ended with
wildlife, so hopefully youenjoyed it oh look at it, all
birds are yeah, okay, all right.
Speaker 3 (58:14):
Well, we started with
wildlife, we ended with
wildlife.
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