🎙️ In This Episode:
🗳️ The Bregman vs. Haaland Showdown
- Jeff Tucker reignites the debate with a new op-ed—Mark responds with why Haaland still holds the upper hand, and what the media is missing about this race.
â›˝ The Real Cost of the New Mexico Fuel Standard
- The Journal’s coverage leaves a lot out—we did the research they didn’t.
- Turns out the fuel standard could raise gas prices by up to 50 cents a gallon for New Mexico families.
- Why aren’t reporters doing their homework? Mark calls it out.
🏅 Boys in Girls Sports—Back in the Spotlight
- It’s championship weekend in high school sports, and the controversy over biological males in girls’ competitions is back in the headlines.
- We break down what’s happening and why so many parents and students are frustrated.
🚙 Jeep Wave Etiquette—Who Gets to Join the Club?
- Krysty tackles one of the most important questions of our time: Can you Jeep wave if you drive a new Jeep? What about no Jeep at all?
- It’s lighthearted, it’s fun—and yes, she has the final answer.
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
Well, welcome to, no Doubt About it, podcast Mark in
a different spot today he's inthe podcasting director's booth.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
No, it's not good.
It's not good.
I get you getting a big look atmy computer, so we'll kind of
do that for you.
Yeah, it's okay, a little bitof that.
It's not good.
I've.
Uh, I get you get a big look atmy computer, so we'll kind of
do that for you, yeah.
It's a little bit of that.
It's all right, it's a toughsituation.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Yeah, no, it's.
It's not the easiest thing,it's why I'm not doing it.
But uh, our girls, ava has leftfor Africa for a mission trip
for five weeks and Ella has alsoleft for a church camp
opportunity, and she's gone forthe week too.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Yeah, it's just us.
And, by the way, I dounderstand that Christy looks a
little blue on her camera.
Oh, do I?
Yeah.
So I had a little lightingissue and the only way I was
going to be able to get any sortof even light even close Was to
make me blue, was to make youblue, so I just figured you
could handle it.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Well, just tell people it's the methylene blue I
am.
Yes exactly Kind of now startedto shade my skin.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Yeah, you just poured it over the lens, so it's good.
Um, a couple of things here.
Uh oh, scouts joining us now.
She made it up the stairs, sothis is a big deal, cause scout
had double ACL surgery.
She did have double kneesurgery was not able to climb
the stairs for a long time.
And now she's doing better.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
She's doing a little better.
Yeah, she's kind of our.
You know, she's our family dog.
I mean, she is like our heart.
Yeah.
She's like our littlesweetheart of the family.
So we put her through thesurgery and she has recovered
quite nicely actually she has.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
It was definitely the right decision.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
It was and we were doubting it.
But she could hardly walk andwe decided to move ahead with it
and we were told 12 weeksrecovery but within like three
weeks she's really bounced backpretty well, she's at like four
or five now and she's, she'sdoing okay.
Yeah, so it was a.
It was a good decision by by us.
Yes, we were great on that oneUm so a couple of great.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
We were really great.
Um, so a couple of quick thingsfor you.
It's a interesting show in therespect that we're going to do
some local stuff First.
We've been talking about thisbill, this clean fuels bill
we've mentioned.
That is now in, effectively itis in.
The state environment board isgoing to start to enforce this
thing and the journal wrote anarticle on it today.
Uh, it was ridiculous, so we'llget into that.
(02:16):
Uh, another journal articlefrom our friend, jeff tucker,
who was on the show and managedto turn his time on the show
into a column.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Yeah, a couple of columns.
He's put a couple of columnstogether on his podcast on this,
which was a couple of episodesago.
So if you missed it, it's withJeff Tucker.
He is the opinion editor, orformer opinion editor, and he's
on the opinion board still.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
And yeah, so we were, we got, we got kind of animated
over the Bregman thing, so hewrote an article on it, and of
course he wrote it from hisperspective.
So, I would like to answer someof what he said.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Okay, and I'm sure he's anticipating you doing so.
So, oh yeah, he knows he'snobody.
He knows where that's going togo.
So, yeah, no worries.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Okay, absolutely, and then we'll march on from there.
There's just a heartbreakingstory about an Albuquerque
business owner who someonesteals from his store and he
goes out there, tries to shootthe tire of his car, shoots the
guy, kills him and now he'sfacing murder charges, you know,
and and it's just unbelievable.
And so we'll talk about that,because literally this week,
(03:16):
both Ava or Ella and I both hadexperiences with people ripping
stuff off at stores and and and,right up here, you know, in the
Albuquerque Heights.
I mean just it's out,completely and totally out of
control.
And then end of the year, right, and you get into the state
track meets across the country.
Well, the issue of men andwomen's sports is coming back up
(03:37):
again, and so we're going totalk about that.
Three different issues of thishappening and what the reaction
has been, and the reaction isstarting to change from people
as well.
And then this attack by theUkrainians on the Russians
unbelievable, unbelievable.
So we want to show you thatjust incredible.
A drone attack and the way theydid it was very clever, and
(03:59):
there's a lesson in this for theUnited States as well in future
warfare, warfare, because it ischanging, and then we of course
have, we'll end with a littlekicker about Jeeps.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Right, jeeps, cause our daughter drives a Jeep.
You had a Jeep for a long time.
We've actually had a handful ofJeeps in the family over the
years, so a little tip of thecap to the Jeep driver out there
that we are ending on.
So kind of a funny thing.
All right, let's dive into someof the mail we got we I just
pulled two today.
(04:31):
Two quick comments.
I did get a lot this week,which I appreciate.
I've read a lot of the emailsthat have come in and continue
to send those to us at info atno doubt about it, podcastcom.
Or you can go on our website nodoubt about it, podcastcom, and
you can.
Over 13,000 subscribers, whichis good.
(04:51):
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and subscribe and like us onyoutube as well.
That does help us quite a bit.
So thank you guys forcontinuing to do that.
Okay, so this first comment camein from bill.
Bill says uh, regarding therussia.
We talked a lot about russiaand trump last episode.
Russia, putin, is notcontrollable by trump.
This is very serious fact thatneeds to be calculated at a very
dangerous time in internationalrelations, which is exactly
what Mark was chatting about inthe last episode.
You know very much so justdiscussing the fact that Trump's
(05:13):
got his hands full with Putin,putin's not laying down for
anybody.
And what's interesting is I wasjust listening to a different
podcast with Newt Gingrich andhe said and I wrote it down
because I thought it was kind ofinteresting he just said, you
know, don't mistake Trump'spatience for timidity, and he
thinks that that is what Putincould be doing.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
Well, now everything has changed, though.
Remember, a bunch of theirnuclear bombers are gone.
Right, well, that's superrecent I mean yeah, yeah, no, no
, no, you're right, but yeah,yeah, no, no, no you're right,
but again, that's Ukraine side,right.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
So just thinking about okay, well is Trump?
You know?
Basically his patients arelooking or reviewing all this.
How does Putin look at this?
And Newt Gingrich basicallysaid hey, don't.
I hope Putin's not laying downbecause he's going to mistake
what Trump's actually doing here.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
You hope Putin's not laying down.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Yeah, meaning like Putin's, not just like just
thinking he's got this in thebag, kind of thing, because he
doesn't is basically what NewtGingrich was trying to say.
Trump may look like, but hesaid don't mistake Trump's
patience for timidity.
That's basically what he said,yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
And again, yeah, okay , okay.
Sure yeah no, I get it, andthat's probably hopefully you
know whatever, but but that'swhat we talked about in the last
episode is that Trump has tostand up, I mean, and say enough
.
And, by the way, putincontinues.
This is one thing that peopleare not, I don't think, fully
realizing, and today it's alittle more of a reality on a
Sunday after what's justhappened.
(06:35):
The warfighting machine ofRussia has been deeply, deeply
damaged, not only just fromwhat's just happened, but in
general, the amount of peoplethat they've lost.
This is bleeding them in bothpossible ways, which is horrible
all the way around, and becauseof what they've done, they've
gotten themselves in anincredibly difficult position.
(06:55):
So I think that that does go toBill's point, which is Putin has
a whole different set ofmotivations here, but I don't
know what that means.
You know who knows what itmeans.
But it could mean that you knowthe United States providing
more aid and I'm not talkingabout soldiers on the ground,
I'm talking about financial aidand deals, obviously, where
earth deals with the, with theUkrainians, which will help them
(07:18):
, uh, you know, fuel their,their defense machine and
possibly selling them moreweapons.
I mean, that's a possibilitytoo, and again, if Russia won't
stop attacking them, then youknow what are you going to do.
So that's what we've said onthis show anyway.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
Right.
Well, in a lot of our commentsthat came in I didn't I did not
clip them all, but a lot of themwere saying we need to be
really careful here because thisabsolutely could become the
next world war three.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Yeah, it could, but I don't think it will, so go
ahead.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Okay, you've heard that directly from Mark.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Yes, it will not happen.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
So, sagittarius, she is the woman that wrote, or
gentleman.
It could be a gentleman toothat wrote in, and I had to clip
the comment last time and theywrote back in.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Oh, the third question.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
The third question.
She had questions about MayorKen down in Las Cruces, if he
had a chance.
So he wrote back in and saidhey, no worries.
Here's the third part of myquestion.
Again, If Ken were to winagainst the other Democrats,
would he have a chance againstthe Republican candidates for
governor?
Also, I've got a new questionfor you Do you think that Keller
is going to do the June prideparade next month, considering
(08:17):
there's people on next sayingthey hope that doesn't happen
next month, which is actuallythis month now?
Speaker 2 (08:22):
So would you?
Yeah, OK, a couple of things onthis quickly.
Any Democrat who wins thenomination you have to remember,
in the state of New Mexico thatDemocrat walks into the general
election with a 15 pointregistration advantage.
So to think that any Democrat,whoever were to win, doesn't
have a chance is crazy.
So yeah, Mayor Ken wouldabsolutely have a chance.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
If he was to win the nomination, absolutely, he would
absolutely.
And the issue that goes backagain.
We talked about this last week.
You know, really it's going tobe tough for him to get the
nomination because a lot ofpeople up in the bulk of the
state have no idea who he is.
Right, you'll have to do allthat You're right.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
He's got some challenges ahead of him, but if
he were to get through somehow,some way have a chance.
So no question, no doubt.
Now, as far as mayor kellergoes, absolutely he'll be at the
pride pride parade.
That's a huge part of hisconstituency and for him not to
go to that would be asignificant mistake on his part.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
He will, he will go, he will go absolutely and I
believe that you'll see everydemocratic uh candidate for
governor bregman, deb holland,oh bregman, yeah, they'll all be
at the pride.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Oh yeah, yeah, bregman.
Now bregman will take thecowboy hat off or he'll put on a
rainbow-colored cowboy hat.
He'll change Well he's an actor.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
We all know he's an actor.
He just shows up whereverShowboat Sam will be ready to go
.
Showboat Sam, whatever you needhim to be, that's what he'll be
.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
We'll talk about him in just a second.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
Well let's dive in, because we started talking about
this.
Basically, it's going to boildown to a gas tax is really what
it sounds like to me, just as aconsumer.
You can call it whatever youwant, but basically this is
going to turn into a tax onpeople.
This is the story that we'vebeen mentioning here.
It is in the journal thismorning no-transcript.
(10:10):
Here's a couple of things fromthe story.
The clean fuel standard itselffollows a 2018 baseline.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
I just want to say one thing before you read this.
Yeah, what you're about to readis in this article.
To me, was, was, very, was,infuriating, because it was a
mouthpiece for, for the for, forpeople in power.
Okay, that's all this was.
So what you're about to readhere, just I want you to read
this and just tell me what itmeans.
If you're an average personsitting there at home reading
(10:38):
this, tell me if you have anyunderstanding of what you're
about to say.
Just finish it up and then letme know what it says.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
Okay.
The clean fuel standard itselffollows a 2018 baseline from
carbon intensities generated bygasoline, diesel and jet fuel.
The proposed rule would mandateannual carbon intensity
reductions in fuels to meetlegally required milestones at
least 20% below 2018 levels by2030, and at least 30% below
2018 by 2040.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
What does that even mean?
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Well, this is called a hefty rule.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
So hold on now, what they did here.
So then Michelle Miano saysshe's from the Environmental
Protection Division.
She gives away the game alittle bit and she says this is
a hefty rule, meaning this issignificant.
Okay, now does the reporterfrom the journal stop everything
down and say what do you mean?
(11:28):
What are you talking about?
What does hefty rule mean?
Hefty means expensive, just soyou know.
For all of us who pay taxes,hefty means expensive.
Hefty means a big climb, aheavy lift, a difficult go.
That's what.
That's what it means.
Now.
Do you get any explanation ofthat in this article?
The answer is no, you do not.
(11:49):
So the minute she says it's ahefty rule, I want you then to
watch the magical pivot from theauthor of the story, which then
gets into all the great thingsit's going to do.
You don't talk at all.
There was a one quick, onequick soundbite given to Gail
Armstrong to be able to say thisis going to raise gas prices.
(12:09):
Because it is, and we'll showyou why in a second.
Well, I promise you we'll.
We'll give you that evidencehere in just a second.
But but the?
So they give some cursorylittle oh well, some people
don't like it, but and then justread this here we go.
You'd think we're headed forbig times ahead.
Go ahead.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Public Service Company of New Mexico has voiced
its support for the program andother companies like clean
energy businesses, 3degrees andautomotive tech and
manufacturing company Rivian.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
All right, hold on.
So right there, okay, you have.
It should be like saying oiland gas businesses support oil
and gas right.
Oil and gas businesses supportoil and gas right.
So then you have thesecompanies that come out, that
are involved in this line ofwork, that make big profit off
of it.
They're in, they're in, ofcourse, they are, go ahead, keep
going.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
That operates in other clean transportation fuel
markets in the US participatedin a public comment period in
January to support and influencehow New Mexico's program will
work.
Of course they did.
Of course they did, becausethey will benefit from it.
Yes, new Mexico environmentaldepartment officials also touted
new economic opportunities thatcould come with the $3 billion
alternative fuel market,attracting investments in
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industries like clean hydrogenor renewable propane.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Okay, again, this is the sort of thing that a good
reporter says wait a minute,what are we really looking at
here?
Instead, what we get in thisparticular case is no pushback,
no digging to find out what realdetails there are.
What $3 billion are you talkingabout, really, I mean?
Speaker 1 (13:37):
and so this is going to turn to be like the money we
were all supposed to make withwind and solar.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Well, I mean again, some wind, and solar is fine,
but it's just.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
This is not and some of it doesn't work at all.
So you know, I mean honestlylike the cleanup of that.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
If there is even cleanup on that is well you
can't, you can't base yourenergy grid on wind and solar.
Clearly, right, we all knowthat.
There's no doubt.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
But we don't all know that.
We all still there's, there'sgroups that still tout it and
give all these tax incentives todo so.
So I'm just saying this isanother one.
That's like saying oh well,suddenly, now we'll have $3
billion in alternative fuelmarkets from clean hydrogen and
renewable propane Right now it'sludicrous.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
I totally agree with you Along with wind and solar.
But here's my problem with thearticle which is the easiest
thing to do.
The easiest thing to do isbecause New Mexico would be the
fourth state to do this.
So then you just say hmm, youknow what I'm going to do.
Take the minimum amount of work, not just call the people at
the environment department andtranscribe their press release.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
Their press release, which is exactly what it says.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
I'm not going to just do that, I'm going to go look.
I'm going to say, hmm, if I golook at the most expensive
places to buy gas in the country, I wonder if I'll find those
three states that do this sameclean fuels bill.
You think there could be athing?
Oh well, let's take a look.
Oh, there it is.
Okay, let's take a look.
(14:54):
Let's start with Hawaii, justthe first one, because Hawaii is
an island.
I don't know if any of you havebeen there.
It's a five-hour flight fromCalifornia, so it's kind of
expensive to get fuel out there.
So Hawaii is a bit of anoutlier.
Okay, all right, so so we'lljust pull Hawaii out of there,
cause it's.
That's a whole different set ofeconomic circumstances.
Is California One of the cleanfuel bill States?
It is average price per gallon$4 and 7 cents or 70 cents 70
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cents Washington.
Are they a clean fuel state?
Oh, they are as well.
$4.35 average Oregon.
Are they a clean fuel?
They are indeed so reallyremoving Hawaii.
The highest three cost states tobuy gasoline are the states
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that have the very bill that NewMexico is getting ready to
enact.
New Mexico, the state that hasthe highest number of people on
assistance that desperately needhelp and a hand up to afford
their daily lives.
We are not California, we arenot Washington and we are not
Oregon.
We don't have that kind ofmoney.
Here we have people that arescrapping every day to get to
(16:04):
where they need to go.
And what is this going to do?
Likely going to raise theirgasoline prices anywhere between
30 and 50 cents a gallon.
And they have absolutely notbeen honest about this.
They've been asked about it andthey said it's not going to
happen.
Do we have reporters that sayare you kidding me?
Here are some simple facts.
Do they do it?
No, so we wonder why.
But he says why do the peoplewho stay in New Mexico?
(16:26):
They never seem to get it.
Well, they don't get a wholelot of help from the people that
should help inform them.
They don't.
And this is a great example, youjust watch an article in the
journal which just is like hey,how can I help you?
How can I help you?
Let me write this story for you.
Let me just give one side ofthe story.
Oh, we'll give Gail Armstrong aquick little soundbite saying
taxes are going to go up, butshe's kind of a crazy Republican
(16:46):
, so can we really trust her?
Let's go back to getting sixsoundbites from the other lady
who tells us how great it'sgoing to be, even though it's
going to be a heavy lift orwhatever she calls it.
So this is what is just soinfuriating is, you see, this
stuff and you're putting moreburden on people that cannot
afford it.
Every family buys gasoline,every family has to get their
family to various places to getto work, to get to school, and
(17:09):
there is absolutely nodifference if you do this bill
in the state or not, other thanyou're just putting a tremendous
burden on people.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
Okay, do we know the status of this bill, like, do we
we know what's passed?
I?
Mean it's done, it's a donedeal.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
So like now this is a rules making process, right
this?
Speaker 1 (17:24):
is rules making now.
Now, this is like how do weenforce it?
Speaker 2 (17:26):
That's where we are now.
No, it's this.
Now.
This is like how do we enforceit?
That's where we are now.
No, it's this.
This is house bill 41.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
It passed in 2024 and so now we just get to see, uh,
how much this makes our gasprices tick back up, right?
Speaker 2 (17:41):
because it's basically gonna be a gas tax,
yes, of course you don't seethat in this article.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
No, you don't see any of it.
It's gonna be a gas tax touchit.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
She doesn't even touch it.
She didn't even do even themost minimum amount of work to
be a gas tax.
They don't even touch it.
She doesn't even touch it.
She didn't even do even themost minimum amount of work to
be able to say wait a minute.
Okay, you guys are saying allthis stuff's going to happen.
There's not a state in theunion that has tried this, that
is not one of the top states forgas prices.
How do you explain that?
Just ask that one question,please, please, stop being a
rubber stamp for power so thatthey can keep just rolling along
(18:11):
and making life more expensiveand more difficult in the state.
Just help people out.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
And also, why would you not interview some of the
state legislators that voted infavor of this and that said,
yeah, this is a great idea.
Like that's what they don't?
Speaker 2 (18:22):
know, but wait a minute, they don't know.
You think those people know?
You think those statelegislators have any idea of how
this thing's going to be like?
They're just blindly goingabout it Now.
Now there are some, plenty ofstate legislators, both
Republican and Democrat, whovoted against it.
It only passed by a couple ofvotes in the Senate.
It was very close.
There are plenty of.
There were plenty of votesagainst this thing, and and so
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that's who I would have talkedto.
I would have gone to theDemocrat who who voted against
it because there are eight or 10of them and said, hey, what's
going on with this?
No, no, we don't do that.
We don't do that.
It's much easier to print thepress release.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Wow, yeah Well, it's going to be exciting to watch
our gas prices go up even morethan.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
Well, we'll see what happens with it, but push back.
You know you can go to thestate environmental board.
You, ken's, still comment onthis thing.
It's important to do it becausethere are really.
This will desperately hurtpeople in this state.
It really will.
I mean, there is nothing moreregressive.
Regressive meaning affectinglow-income people just as much
as high-income people, just onan even basis.
Meaning it affects low-incomepeople more because they have
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less money than this.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
Well, I'm guessing it's not just going to affect us
at the gas pump.
This would affect our utilities, would it like?
Would it if you, if you it?
Speaker 2 (19:34):
depends on what you're.
It depends on what you'refueling.
Your now pnm has always beenwrapped into the middle of this
stuff, so I don't know.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
Honestly, I don't know how that's gonna work well,
you can make your comments tothe environmental department.
You could also definitely stillpick up the phone and call your
state reps and say, hey, listen, like I am still adamantly
opposed to this.
I don't know what we can doabout it, but like I want to
make sure I'm voicing myawareness on this.
And again, when people say whydo we keep you know, why is it
important to maybe vote forsomebody different?
(20:02):
This is why, like this is justone more example of why, when
you vote for the same people inthe state legislating office or
the same type of governor or thesame type of elected official,
you just get a repeat of highertaxes and more money coming back
, you know, being taken awayfrom everyday New Mexicans, and
you sit back and say, I wonderwhy this is happening.
Well, this is it.
This is exactly proof of whenyou just do not vote for change,
(20:25):
you get a repeat of historyover and over and over.
So anyway, ok, let's.
Let's talk about you, you andJeff Tucker, going round and
round in the opinion journal.
Opinion column today in thejournal yes.
And it says here Jeff saysunleashed primary voters bode
well for centrists.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
Bregman campaign OK a couple of things, all right.
Well, let we'll go through whatJeff said here.
Bregman's not a centrist, butokay.
So here's what Jeff says, whathe said on this podcast, which
is true.
I told Mark I was leaningtoward Bernalillo County
District Attorney Sam Bregman inthe Democratic primary,
pointing out that crime isdriving politics across New
Mexico.
(21:06):
I'm not sure that it is, butokay.
After all, bregman has strongcredentials as a courtroom
prosecutor Not really and adecades long civil and criminal
defense attorney that's true whohas litigated some of the
state's highest profile cases,sort of OK.
Mark Roncetti pointed out thatthe Democratic candidates at the
end of the political spectrumtend to defeat moderates in
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primaries, which is true.
But in the last good statewideDemocratic primary in 2022, then
Bernalillo County DistrictAttorney Raul Torres repeatedly
hammered then State AuditorBrian Colon on TV ads about
remarks Colon made in one of hispodcasts about defunding the
police.
Colon lost the Democraticprimary to Torres by almost
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10,000 votes, or sevenpercentage points, and Torres
claims claimed that he held themiddle ground.
Ok, here's the problem withwith that example, jeff, that is
, that nobody really knows muchabout Raul Torres, or they
definitely don't necessarilyknow a whole lot about Brian
Colon.
It's a.
It's a position that thatpeople don't tend to be as
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dialed in on.
It's not that they aren'timportant positions and that
they aren't too substantialpeople they are, but it's just.
That's a different kind ofexample.
But then he gets into what heforgot to mention on the show
here, which we'll talk abouthere.
It says, with the passage andenactment of Senate Bill 16
earlier this year, that growingblock of independent voters will
be able to choose the majorparty's primary ballot in 2026
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and vote for candidates withinthat primary without having to
drop their party affiliation.
Previously, independents couldvote in primary elections, but
only if they first changed theirparty affiliation to Democratic
or Republican.
Not many voters went throughthe hassle.
Fewer than 1% of independentvoters cast ballots in the
state's 2022 primaries.
The landscape will be muchdifferent in 2026, with 23.2% of
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the electorate up for grabswith the two major party
primaries.
Okay, so this is what I wouldtell Jeff.
First of all, independentsdon't vote in primaries.
It doesn't matter what therules are.
There's a reason.
They're independents and theydon't tend to jump in and vote
during primaries.
If you are the candidate whosays I'm going to get all these
independents to jump in and votefor me like we live in is not,
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and so what's going to happenhere is and this is what I asked
Jeff on at that very table,when we were sitting there, I
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said, jeff, tell me the ad thatSam Bregman runs on.
Deb Holland, tell me the andI'll give you the chance to jump
into this.
Christy, you tell me the ad.
If you're Sam Bregman andyou're trying to figure this out
, you go tell me the ad and thenI tell you how I'll respond as
Deb Holland.
Okay, so what is the best adthat you think, if you're Sam
Bregman, you're going to run toto take out Deb Holland?
Speaker 1 (24:00):
Well, I think they're going to try to show that she's
um, that she's ineffective, shehas never done anything for the
city of New Mexico.
It's going to just be likeviews of her Just just talking
about how ineffective she is.
They might bring up her pastDUIs.
No, you don't think you bringthose up.
No, you know, you don't touchthat, Okay.
Well, I mean, I'm just thinkingthat's kind of what I've heard
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about on X, but I think he'sgoing to try to say that I mean,
it was 30 years ago.
I understand we don't care aboutit and I don't think voters
actually care about it.
I'm just trying to say whatwould an ad what?
Speaker 2 (24:30):
are you going to hit her with?
Are you going to hear what shehasn't done?
Anything?
Speaker 1 (24:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
Okay, okay, here's what, here's what I'll come back
.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
That's what I think.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
While while you say I've been busy not doing
anything, I've been serving inCongress.
I've been standing up fornative Americans across this
country.
I served this country asinterior secretary.
I was a Congress.
You went to DC and fought everysingle day for the state of New
Mexico and to lift up lowincome families.
What were you doing?
You were ambulance chasing Sam.
You were out there chasingcameras, trying to get money for
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your clients, and then youdecided, oh, at the last second,
I think I'll try to be DA andI'll get appointed to do that.
Thank you, johnny.
Come lately, but you happen tobe a DA for the most violent
city in the country, so whydon't you just sit down and do
your job?
What happens then?
Go ahead.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
Well, I think he's going to come back, guns a
blazing, like he always does,like he's going to ask cowboy
hat on, and he's going to belike I've done.
This is all the.
He's going to list all thecrime rates that he's brought
down.
I think that's what he's goingto try to say he's done, because
that's what I've seen him doingis that he's taking credit for,
you know, cleaning up the cityand cleaning up things which has
not clean, and not cleaned upin my mind at all, or nor do we
feel it whatsoever.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
And then and then the next ad I run on you is your
showboat, sam.
So who are you this week?
Who are you Right?
Are you Woody from toy story?
You got the chaps on, you gotthe hat on.
Oh, that's what you're doingtoo.
Got a lot of oil and gas moneyin there.
Are you a Republican?
Are you a Democrat?
(25:59):
Are you in a?
Who are you?
We don't even know, but we'reDemocrats and we care about this
, and you go and treat us likewe're fools and you can act like
whoever you want.
You can act like whoever youfeel like being that day.
Well, some of us have beenDemocrats our whole lives, sam,
so why don't you wake up andcome on to the party here?
Thanks for showing up.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Well, yeah, I just think it's.
Here's what I think I mean,regardless of the ads which I do
think are still very effective,by the way which a lot of
people are like do these adsreally work?
Well, yeah, they do.
They can.
They can absolutely dictateturnout for voters.
But I just think, at the end ofthe day, she's Native American,
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she's a woman, she's held anational office and they're
going to, she's going to haveall the money aimed in her
direction and you can do a lotwith money and I think what you
said at the very beginning ofthis is you know, what people
are always concerned about andtalk about on X a lot is that
she doesn't come off veryintelligent.
Well, they're going to makesure her team is going to
protect her, keep her from doinga lot of press conferences, and
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they're going to keep her awayfrom debating Sam Bregman, who's
an attorney, so I'm sureBregman could clean the floor
with her in a debate.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
Oh, there's no question.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
I'm imagining that that would happen.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
I totally agree with that.
I'm not saying he couldn't beeffective in a debate, but but
he's also, you know, it's justnever going to happen.
It's like, yeah, that would begreat.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
I think he's going to come off.
I mean, this is just me knowingand watching and being part of
campaigns.
Sam's going to come off like abully.
That's right.
That's, that's what he's goingto come off like, and it's going
to be very difficult for him tonot come off like a bully.
It is a very hard thing and Imean it's tough to say this, but
it is tough to run against awoman in any state, and
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especially in New Mexico.
You run against a woman and ifyou come off even slightly cocky
and arrogant which he alreadyhas and he already has that
reputation it is going to bethat he is putting down women
and that he thinks he's smarterthan her and all of these.
I mean he's going to come offlike a bully and it's that's.
The thing is like, you know sowill that?
(27:55):
Will that connect with voters?
And I just think, at the end ofthe day you're looking at, when
you look at the primary voterfor the Democratic Party,
they're not looking for the guyin the middle that's going to
keep crime down and going totake the guns.
You know it's like that's notwhat they're looking for.
He's a gun owner, he believesin gun rights, he's you know all
of these other things too.
(28:15):
The far left primary voter isagainst all of that.
So I just don't know how that.
I don't even know how he's acandidate if I'm being honest,
right, this is.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
this is a.
This is a spot where I thinkthat people use there.
It's just political realities,and the political reality is
that in the democratic partyright now, the democratic party
is much closer to Deb Hollandthan it is to what Sam Bregman
(28:46):
has created himself to be thisweek.
So, therefore, that's whyHolland's going to clock him.
I mean now now Holland's got torun a smart campaign.
She's got to when what I meanby that is do not make yourself
available Like you.
Just do not make yourselfavailable, just keep yourself
much more in much morestructured environments that
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help you as a candidate.
And every candidate hasdifferent strengths.
So you know, and I always hate,I'm sorry, and when people say,
oh, this candidate's stupid, Ihate that because I just think
it's, it's irritating.
So when people say, oh, she'snot smart, whatever, I don't
know whether she's, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
I think for voters and this is what I've always
said is it was the same.
It was the same thing that whenpeople would say would say you
know, mark's just the weatherman, I was like you clearly have
never heard him speak, you'venever gone to hear him talk
about policies, You've neverbeen, you've never read any of
his policy presentations on hiswebsite.
You never have gone to a townhall.
You haven't actually listenedto the guy who, who knows all
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this, has studied all this foryears, for a decade, before he
even attempted to run.
So I just think there is thatwhole thing of you're just this
or you're just that.
I just think the likability ofSam Bregman is very low,
especially I'm just going to saythis with women.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
Yes, and that is the perfect point, because what
percentage of Democratic votersare women right now?
The party is dominated by women.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
Right.
I mean I just think we see that.
We saw that even in your race,we see it in other races.
I just think it's going to beinteresting on what of the who,
what candidate is going toconnect the most with women?
And I just think I mean I'veheard that Sam Bregman's license
plate something says like thegovernor or the gov or something
is horse rate.
He owns a horse or something,and it's also called the
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governor.
It's a guy that has a huge egowalking to a room.
You can feel that when you seehis announcement you you feel
that like bravado, like check meout, I have all this bravado.
And I just think I don't knowif that's the right approach
when you're looking at the voterthat's going to actually be
determining who's going to bethe primarial candidate for a
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democratic party.
It's not him.
I mean I would be shocked, Iwill be shocked if it's him.
No, that's real logic If shesteps all over herself or
something.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
Yeah, we agree on that.
She has the potential to blowher own candidacy up.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
And I also don't believe I mean I hate to say
this, but obviously we learnedthis too.
I believe you were amazing inthe debates.
I don't think the debates,unless you were Joe Biden, have
an actual you know that.
You know that actually put thatmuch out there for the voters,
(31:25):
especially if they push thedebates really far up against
the voting line, like if it'spast a voting.
For instance, like when you didthe Senate race, ben Ray pushed
that debate till after earlyvoting had already started.
So, like he he wasn't a fool,he knew he couldn't get into the
debate ring with you and hedidn't want to too early on, so
they kept pushing it and keptpushing it until early voting
had already begun.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
Yeah, and and and, but this isn't.
She's not going to debate him,so like that's not going to
matter now.
So the primary debates, uh,those are always a little more
dicey, right, because you canend up doing a, a like a
candidate forum.
I would not be surprised ifthey end up on the same stage as
a candidate forum, but again,no one will see it right.
Unless something really badhappens at that candidate forum,
nobody will see it Right.
(32:01):
So it doesn't.
So that part doesn't matter.
It's the televised debate whereyou may get four or five ratings
, so 40,000 to 50,000 people maywatch it maybe.
And again, the one debate wehad was like 70,000 people
watched it.
But again, yeah, I think itwent well for us, but it doesn't
.
But unless something really badhappens and michelle was more
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than accomplished enough that,yeah, she, she took the punches,
she didn't appreciate it, shedidn't enjoy it.
You know, when we were done,she'd had enough of me, but but
she also knew that nothingmelted down for her.
Now, something different forholland, that could be the case,
but but you're right on thebregman thing.
That just another example.
But this is the stuff peopledon't realize is that they just
see.
They see Bregman talk to likewell, bregman, like Jeff, I
(32:44):
think, is making that mistake.
And then you realize what youjust said, which is the
electorate.
Especially now in thedemocratic party, it's hard to
find a ton of men who areDemocrats really, that are
voting democratic, you knowright now, because of the issue
set and things like that.
And so because of that, and howpowerful women's voices are in
the Democratic Party, you'reexactly right.
(33:06):
Sam is a bully.
Sam in an electorate that islargely women, and then Sam in a
party that appears to be moreleft than his latest creation is
.
He has no chance unless DebHaaland melts down and gives him
one.
Anyone who tells you he doesdoesn't know what they're
talking about.
Now we could end up in anunbelievable crow-eating
(33:27):
situation here.
We may have just massive pilesof crow coming up here if
Bregman wins and if Bregman wins, don't get me wrong, he'll be
very well positioned to win thegeneral.
Don't get me wrong.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
Right, very well positioned to win, the win the
general.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
Don't get me wrong, right.
So I'm not saying he's a badcandidate either.
I'm just telling you that theway this race is playing out, he
has no chance for an actualprimary candidate.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
Um, we've we've fully admitted that he'd be very
difficult to beat in a generalelection.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
Yeah, Again for that 15%, 15% registration advantage
they have right off the shoot.
And so yeah, so that that'stough to beat.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
So anyway, okay, we spent a lot of time on this.
We may have dove too much.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
Well, that's all right, that's all right, it's
good stuff, okay, next story Abusiness owner in Albuquerque,
somebody.
Somebody goes into his store heowns like a hookah shop.
Somebody goes in there, stealstuff.
And I want to play this storyfor you because I thought
channel 13 did somethinginteresting here.
Fairly basic story from channel13.
But then at the end, deanStaley lays out what the
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criminal background is of thisperson and it is significant and
I think channel 13 did that fora reason.
I think they did that to beable to say, uh, hello, look at
this you know, so I just wantyou to listen to this a little
bit.
Speaker 4 (34:41):
Police say the owner of Moe's Smoke Shop shot a
shoplifter who was reversing hiscar away from the store.
We spoke with someone who worksnearby who saw part of what
happened.
Speaker 6 (34:51):
A lot of commotion.
We went ahead and came to thewindows by my work.
We looked out.
We saw a guy running out thatfled in a white like Toyota
Camry, and then we saw the ownerof the smoke shop also out
there.
Speaker 4 (35:06):
Matassa Mahir Thabata , the owner of Moe's Smoke Shop,
is facing a murder charge.
According to a police report,officers arrived around 3 pm
yesterday to a shopping centernear Lomas and San Mateo to find
a burned car and a manidentified as Matthew Cedillo
dead on the ground with a bulletwound.
(35:26):
They later spoke to Thabata,who admitted to shooting at
Cedillo, who, he says, stole twoshirts and a glass bong from
his store before trying to fleein a car.
Thabata says he was trying toshoot the tire, but instead
Cedillo was hit and killed.
The car crashed into anothervehicle in the Sprouts parking
lot, then ended up across thestreet where it hit a curb and
(35:49):
caught fire.
Thabata told officers he wasangry and that he doesn't like
violence, but he said Cedilloleft him no choice At the end of
the day, as frustrating as itcan be, it's just inventory.
Speaker 6 (36:02):
Most businesses, including ours, has insurance
for that and it's never worthtaking or risking your own life
for just inventory.
Speaker 4 (36:09):
The total amount of stolen merchandise was $75.
Tabata does not have asignificant criminal history in
New Mexico.
Back to you All right.
Speaker 5 (36:22):
Thanks, Marilyn.
Court records show the man whowas killed, 40-year-old Matthew
Cedillo, had a lengthy criminalhistory, with charges for
burglary, shoplifting,trespassing and forging checks,
but in recent years he hasrarely faced prosecution.
His rap sheet includes chargesin at least 13 separate cases in
the last five years, but inmore than half of those cases he
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was found incompetent to standtrial and the charges were
dismissed.
Only two of the 13 casesresulted in convictions.
Speaker 2 (36:52):
Okay.
So there's why I mean I thinkthey went out of their way to
lay out how significant hiscriminal history is, and good
for Channel 13 for doing that.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
And morphing his pictures, all of his mugshots.
I mean I thought that wasimpressive.
Yeah, yeah, no, I spoke volumesof how many times this guy's
been arrested, right.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
And I think it just.
This is so heartbreaking.
And a couple of quick things.
The girl with the soundbite atthe end that said it's just
inventory.
Speaker 4 (37:14):
Right.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
That's just not true, because what it is is that we
have a social fabric that's beenripped apart in the state of
New Mexico.
People walk into stores andthink they do not have to pay
anymore, they can do whateverthey want, and this is a great
example of just continuing toslide down that road, where this
guy is now going to face murdercharges and what.
(37:34):
So now it becomes go takewhatever you'd like.
It's just inventory.
And so we saw that.
I saw this three days ago atthe Albertsons, on Paseo and
Ventura.
A guy comes walking out withtwo bottles of wine and roses,
clearly on something screamingat the Albertson staff don't
come near me or I'll kill you,and he looked like he would
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absolutely do it.
Speaker 1 (37:57):
Well, and the sad thing is is we shop there a lot
and that is a frequent thingthat's happening there, I you
know the thing that's even moretroubling, um, I mean we got
letters, actually emails, thisweek talking about how they're
watching the Smiths on Mateo anduh, I'm sorry, montgomery and
tramway.
Same situation where they walkin and they see teenagers and
just taking liquor and takingalcohol, and just taking
(38:18):
whatever they want and theyleave.
And it's becoming this pattern.
Yesterday, yesterday, ella isinside a Walgreens on Paseo and
a homeless guy comes in therewith his pants completely off
and he's got no underwear on andhe's just walking around
exposing himself to everybodyand somehow that's supposed to
just be okay.
And you know, our daughter is 16years old and I'm just thinking
(38:39):
where in the world did we say,hey, this is okay and security
is just chasing the guy out, butat what cost?
Like he's going to turn aroundand come back.
I mean, I just think, yeah, youcan sit around and say it's
just inventory, or this is justthe way it is now, we can all
just continue to settle for that, or we can actually get a mayor
in here who makes actualchanges and says listen, enough
(38:59):
is enough and we are going tocrack down on all of this
because you can.
You can stop fighting.
I mean you can start crackingdown on the homelessness and the
shoplifters and the strong useof drugs, cause I guarantee you,
the person that you guys saw inAlbertson's coming out was out
of his mind it was on meth.
Speaker 2 (39:15):
It was clearly on meth.
Speaker 1 (39:16):
So it's like, okay, we can start cracking down on
the on drug use as well.
I just think enough of enoughof just saying, oh, this is just
the way it's going to be now inin our great in our, in our
society has decayed, yeah, tothe point where we can't, we
cannot.
Speaker 2 (39:28):
There is no more social compact with each other
to to be safe, to be respectful.
Any of that.
It's gone, and this is whathappened.
We're getting more and moreinto mad Max territory.
Where it is, what are you goingto do?
And I've never.
You know.
You look at carrying a gun andconceal carry.
I think that's an option for alot of people and I get it.
That's that's important to us,because it's just, you get to a
(39:50):
certain point where where yourealize that you have a choice
to make, and then you see this,this guy in his store, and, and
now he's going to face charges.
Should this guy in his store?
And and now he's going to facecharges.
Should he face charges?
I don't murder charges, no, butI don't know what.
I don't know where that goes,but it's awful.
It's awful because where we arenow, this is, this is what you
(40:11):
know this city and state hasbecome.
We cannot let this happen.
And again it's.
This is something that affectseverybody.
Speaker 1 (40:15):
Well, it's affecting already.
Stores are closing down becausethey can't afford the insurance
claims anymore from gettingripped off or broken into or
caught on fire or whatever seemsto keep happening to these
businesses.
I don't know why Channel 13would find anybody.
That's that brave, I guess, orthat's stupid to get on there
and say, oh, it's just inventory.
It's not just inventory anymore, this is a culture war that is
(40:36):
just taken off.
It is wrecking our city.
And.
I don't know how you keep votingfor the same mayor at this
point or thinking that that'sgoing to change things, because
it's not.
He's had his day, he's dad hasday to fix this and he has made
it much worse.
So my vote is do not vote thatguy back in, please.
Whatever you're doing, do not.
All right, sorry.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
I am no, no, get it.
I am so tired of this.
No, I understand, I get it.
I understand your point.
Speaker 1 (40:57):
It's not safe here anymore and we need a real
change.
And you only get real change byelecting new people.
Yeah, End of story.
Speaker 2 (41:05):
Okay, all right, no-transcript, and, and I and I
think it it really you'restarting to see some of this
(41:26):
stuff that is just unbelievable,so, and I think it's stretching
into an area that is that Ithat, I think, is really I
painful in so many differentways for so many different
people, not only the girls inthe sports, who I feel most for,
who just lose their opportunity.
All right, but then, but thenyou see, when you have this
story, this Veronica Garcia Idon't, I don't know what
(41:47):
Veronica's name was before,veronica, but is a biological
male in Washington state won the400 meter state title.
Okay, and I want you to listento the crowd's reaction to when
the second place person isannounced first and then
veronica is announced.
Okay, lauren matthews, do thatcheer.
(42:10):
Okay, here we go, first place,your 2025 winner in a time of
55.70, from East Valley ofSpokane Veronica Garcia Okay,
veronica Garcia your biologicalboy and I just you know, you see
(42:34):
that, and it's just, it'shorrendous.
And so here's the race righthere.
And then Garcia ended upwinning and so it just it's not
good.
I mean, it is something that isthat is really damaging because
you got the kid.
And then Garcia says after therace this just makes me want to
run even more.
And all of a sudden you're likewhat are you doing?
(42:54):
Like what are these adultsdoing that are like sanctioning
this stuff?
And you get this kid going inthere like I just wanted to run
more.
Well, yeah, okay, guy, I get it, but guess what?
It's not your race to run.
Speaker 1 (43:06):
It's not your race to run, it's very similar.
I know we don't have this onein here, but AB Hernandez.
He's the 16 year oldtransgender girl in California.
Very similar, long, jump rightand just bypasses the second
place, older by a lot, and it'sjust.
It's maddening because Trumphas said listen, no more federal
(43:26):
funding for California.
When you're doing things, Imean it's just like calling it
out.
And I mean Gavin Newsom hassaid I don't really know how to
handle all this.
I mean he's the, he's been puton the record saying I'm not
really sure.
Speaker 2 (43:35):
Well, no, he's backed off it because he realizes that
it's a loser and it and itdoesn't make sense and people
are starting to push back.
So you see the crowd therewho's like no right, no Right,
and so that again you're goingto start.
You're p's the girl who gotsecond after the race.
(43:57):
Here's her picture and she saysWashington State track and
field real girls to a 400 meterchampion.
I mean you don't blame her forsaying that.
I mean it's hard to blame herfor saying that.
You know she has every right tosay that because of what's
happened, right, right and so,and it's not.
You know, it's not just this,you know here, check this one
(44:17):
out, listen to this.
This is a tweet from RileyGaines.
Speaker 1 (44:20):
Yes, this is last night.
A man single-handedly carriedhis high school in Minnesota to
a class four a softballchampionship.
He pitched 14 shutout inningsand back-to-back games to defeat
.
The defending state champs 14shutout innings.
You are a shameful, sorryexcuse for a man, governor Tim
Waltz.
And then here is the video ofthis taking place yeah there it
(44:43):
is.
I mean just unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (44:45):
I mean, think about that, cause that's two straight
games is what Riley's talkingabout there.
That is two straight games justshutting and that is just
ending.
Somebody state championshiphopes and that's just.
It's craziness, right.
And then again, getting back tothe frustration, I want to show
you another video here Girlswho got third and fourth in a
race Okay, they just end upwalking off the podium because
(45:12):
there's they've added a boy ontothe podium.
So here are these girls justwalking off.
They're just like, yeah, we'redone, yeah, we're not doing that
, thanks anyway.
I mean, this is reaching aboiling point.
Speaker 1 (45:24):
Well, it continues to happen in a lot of the States
that are trying to push theenvelope.
I guess I mean it's just weird,like you think maybe you won't
hear anything about it anymore.
You definitely do.
It's still happening.
So it will be interesting tosee how does New Mexico deal
with this next year, because youknow our daughter swam against
boys on the girls swimming teamand it will be interesting to
(45:45):
see.
Are they still swimming inthose?
I mean, is it is anythingchanging?
Even you know, even under thisexecutive order, our schools and
school districts abiding by theexecutive order.
Yeah, it's interesting, andit's just again now I've even
heard more recent stats that nowit's only like 13%, maybe still
support.
Speaker 2 (46:05):
There's nobody that's support.
It's craziness.
Nobody everybody knows youcan't do this.
It's ludicrous and I think it'sgoing to take.
I think it's going to take, youknow, people standing up, even
people left of center standingup, just saying no enough, stop
it, stop it.
Just.
This is not going to happen, itcannot happen anymore.
Speaker 1 (46:21):
Well, you, I'm sorry.
You need women to stand up onthis like grown women, because
of the largest supporters ofthis movement.
They're the largest supportersof saying it's okay to have the
transgender girls in thesewomen's sports.
That's who's doing this.
So you need all the moms andall the women to grow up and
support and back girls in girlssports, plain and simple.
You not see a lot of guyssupporting this, a lot of men
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supporting this.
You see other moms and womensaying that somehow this is a
good thing, like we'll just goagainst Title IX.
No big deal, no big deal at all.
Speaker 2 (46:53):
It's not a Title IX, it's logic.
I mean, forget title nine,right.
Speaker 1 (46:57):
I mean, I don't want you to forget title nine.
We fought so hard to get titlenine.
Speaker 2 (47:00):
I understand that but we're not even getting the
title nine.
This is not even to that.
This is just like hey, don't becrazy and allow boys take over
girl sports.
It's nuts, All right.
We got to quickly get to theUkraine stuff.
Yes, this is wild.
I want you to read this tweetbecause it sort of explains a
little bit what the Ukrainiansdid Saturday night into Sunday
to the Russians, which is thismatters in the United States too
(47:23):
, and we'll explain why that is.
Speaker 1 (47:24):
So Maria Avdiva, I think, is her name.
This will be in the textbooks.
Ukraine secretly delivered FPVdrones and wooden mobile cabins
into Russia.
The drones were hidden underthe roofs of the cabins, which
were later mounted on trucks.
At the signal, the roofs openedremotely, and here you're
sliding through some of thepictures.
Yeah, showing the pictures.
Speaker 2 (47:56):
And then here's video of the drone taking off from
one of these boxes here, and youcan see there it is, and this
is in Russia, this is wellwithin Russia, this is right
outside their bases.
So they set these boxes up andthen they just release the
drones, they go in and then thedrones hit these nuke bombers,
(48:17):
which are, I mean, the damage isincalculable, it's unbelievable
.
Here's some video of thebombers.
Look at all the bombers on firehere, just one after another.
These things are, you know,hundreds of millions of dollars
a piece at least.
Right, I mean, some of ourbombers are billion dollars.
It's crazy, and you can seethey just blew them all up.
(48:38):
I mean, this is the sort ofthing, and the reason it matters
to the United States is becausewe have assets like this
sitting at airfields across theworld, and so this does change
things in that respect.
But the Ukrainians doing thisunbelievable and here's one
other thing is a picture righthere what they also did was
these are the boxes right whenthe where the drones came out of
(48:58):
.
Well, the Ukrainians weren'tthere.
They just brought the boxes inand left Right and then they
remotely boom, send them off.
Well then, when the Russians goto respond and they realize, oh
my God, these drones are comingin from these boxes, let's go
shut the boxes down.
They blow the boxes up.
I mean, it is unbelievable.
And this is what Sean McGuiresaid he's one of these tech guys
(49:21):
said this and this is somethingthat this is where our military
is headed.
This is where we've been headedfor five, six years, I think,
probably maybe more than that.
Okay, and he says Ukraine justmounted an attack that marks a
turning point in the history ofwarfare.
Hundreds of drones werepre-deployed and then struck 40
plus aircraft and a hundredkilometers inside of Russia.
Speaker 1 (49:41):
A thousand kilometers inside of Russia.
Oh, excuse me.
Speaker 2 (49:43):
A thousand Sorry, yeah, one billion in damage by
less than a million dollars indrones.
Critical infrastructure is nolonger safe.
That matters to the UnitedStates, that we have to be able
to fight wars and understand howwars will be fought in the
future, and we better have thetechnology to handle being able
to take out drones, and we willhave drones of our own, clearly
(50:05):
that we already do.
Well clearly.
Speaker 1 (50:06):
I mean again do we need to talk about the drones
off the East Coast again?
Speaker 2 (50:09):
That whole thing Like whatever happened with that?
Speaker 1 (50:11):
We're just told that hey, it was American, we were
everything's fine.
Trump said no more questions,please, or whatever.
Speaker 2 (50:17):
So let's wrap it up.
Speaker 1 (50:24):
Apparently, that's what we're hopefully heading
towards is being able to notonly identify when drones come
our way, because that does seemlike the new wave of military
action right there is is who'sgoing to be, who's going to have
the most advanced drones nowand who's going to be able to
operate those.
I mean, we watched you and Iwent in submission impossible.
The new mission impossible.
Final reckoning this past week.
And even you know all of theRussian.
You know it was Russia andChina and this AI thing that was
(50:46):
coming like basically takingover the world.
Ai, this AI robot was takingover the world and I'm like
that's kind of frighteningbecause there is some little
level of of a reality check inthere of what is the warfare
becoming and how are we shapingthings?
Speaker 2 (50:59):
That's a good drawback.
Very true, I mean, that's thekind of thing we got to start
paying attention to.
We got to start payingattention to what's going on in
Mission Impossible.
Speaker 1 (51:06):
We might need Tom Cruise to come and save us.
Speaker 2 (51:08):
No, you're totally right, but no it just is just,
but the future of you know thethought of Long movie, by the
way, long movie.
But, but movie, by the way,long, but, but it is um.
Yeah, it was long, it was solid, um, but I will say that you
know you've watched whathappened to the russian tanks
because of the ukrainian drones,like you're seeing all these
things like tanks.
In some ways are theycompletely obsolete now, because
(51:28):
they're so big, then you'resaying there's no more ground
game.
Speaker 1 (51:31):
Is what you're saying ?
If that's what you really think, is there really no more ground
game well, it depends on thewar, right.
Speaker 2 (51:36):
It depends on the theater that you're operating in
and I'm no expert on this, Ihave no clue but but I'm just
saying that you know a lot ofthings like these smaller, more
maneuverable things.
I mean, are we going to havejet fighters anymore?
No, we're going to have drones.
Like why would we send, whywould we send a pilot into that
right when you can be, you know,below a mountain in colorado
springs running?
Speaker 1 (51:55):
Well, okay, but here's the question then Do you
need the jet fighters to be ableto go in um shoot off other
drones?
You know that are coming ourdirection?
That's to me, what you woulduse a jet fighter for right Is
to be able to pinpoint thosedrones and take those guys out.
Speaker 2 (52:08):
Would you not use your own drones to do that?
Speaker 1 (52:10):
I think that would be really hard, but I guess I'm
not a drone expert Like.
Speaker 2 (52:13):
I'm not a military expert, Listen I watched Mission
Impossible.
Speaker 1 (52:16):
That's what.
Speaker 2 (52:16):
I do.
That's a good point.
Speaker 1 (52:17):
I watch military movies and I read some military
books from time to time.
That is the level of myexpertise on.
Speaker 2 (52:24):
What should we do militarily to support?
We have one last, all right, sowe have one last story and you
want to get to this.
Speaker 1 (52:30):
Well, I did, because our daughter she's been telling
me about the Jeep wave and sowhen I read this story in Motor
Trend I was like, okay, this, Iguess, is a real thing.
I thought it was just a teenagething.
It turns out it's not.
The Jeep wave explained.
And are you doing it wrong?
I don't know if you knew aboutthis or not.
No, I did not.
Basically, there's like if youown a Jeep, okay, there are
certain rules to this.
Basically, it boils down tothis it's called the vintage
(52:52):
coefficient right.
So respect efficient coefficientright so respect your elders is
basically what this?
Means yeah older jeeps rankhigher than new jeeps, so when
you're passing the road rightthe rule of the order of the
road is that if you have a newerjeep, you have to wave first to
the older jeep oh, it's a signof respect, it's a sign of
respect okay now they basicallyboil this down, the article.
(53:13):
I'm not going to go into majordetail but, they believe it
started kind of back in militarydays when they had the Jeeps.
Speaker 2 (53:19):
Yeah, the old willies .
Speaker 1 (53:20):
Yeah, you would do like a two finger wave to each
other and whether you had doorsor didn't have a door or
whatever, and or had a roof onor whatever, this is what you
would do.
So basically, it's kind of comealong, does it?
Does it matter?
Here's a couple of the rules,right?
So, um, jeeps lower on thehierarchy to start the wave, yep
, um, older Jeeps are at the topof that hierarchy, so don't
(53:42):
mess around with that.
If you see an older Jeep, yeah,you go first.
Speaker 2 (53:44):
You no, if you have an older Jeep, you do not go
first, no, no, no, yeah, yeah,if you have the, if you have the
.
Speaker 1 (53:53):
Here's another trick All Jeep vehicles I mean
everything that's considered aJeep participates in the Jeep
Wave.
What, yes?
And even if you're?
Speaker 2 (54:01):
renting, Even the Grand Wagoneer.
Speaker 1 (54:02):
Yes even the Grand Wagoneer, and if you're renting
a Jeep, you also participate.
Speaker 2 (54:06):
Oh, you're back in.
You've got to do it.
Speaker 1 (54:07):
You're in and so it could be a defense thing and
there's all these rules about it, it of fingers and arm raised
through the open roof or out thedoor, okay, but, it's just two
fingers two fingers.
Speaker 2 (54:18):
Okay, it's a pair of fingers Okay.
Speaker 1 (54:20):
Heaven forbid, don't give him the whole hand.
Okay, okay and then this otherthing that I thought was kind of
crazy was the Jeep ducking,okay.
Speaker 2 (54:30):
So if you've seen this or not, I have with Ella
cause she drives a Jeep, so Iwas like what are all the rubber
ducks Right?
Speaker 1 (54:40):
What's up with the rubber?
Basically, it's kind of a newdevelopment, new Jeep culture.
It's supposed to be thisgesture that if you're driving a
Jeep and somebody appreciatesyour Jeep, another Jeep owner
will put a rubber ducky on thehood of your vehicle as like a
gift, like a token.
Okay, you collect them, you putthem on your dashboard and then
you pass them out when you findanother Jeep that's to your
liking.
Speaker 2 (54:52):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (54:52):
It's called Jeep ducking.
Okay, so anyway.
And can anybody do the Jeepwave?
Yep, anybody can do the Jeepwave as long as you're driving
in a Jeep.
Speaker 2 (55:00):
But you cannot.
I can't be in a Bronco and giveyou a Jeep wave.
Speaker 1 (55:03):
No, that would be a Bronco wave and I'm not sure I
don't have any rules on theBronco wave.
but we could start one.
I guess we could just startcreating one.
Weird, we'd have to borrowsomeone's bronco and go around
and start doing that.
(55:23):
Anyway, I did that as a tribute.
Yeah, no, I think it'sfantastic.
I know that you used to have ajeep too, um, a couple jeeps,
but yes, all jeeps.
You guys, if you're a jeepowner out there, I'm sure you
already know about the wave.
I haven't even started this foryou, I haven't explained it to
you.
You already knew about it andapparently go out and buy those
rubber duckies and be ready toput those on various je cars,
absolutely.
I wouldn't mind a ducky left onmy car, no, that's kind of cool.
I don't drive a Jeep, but Iwould still appreciate a little
(55:44):
love token left on my car thatsays hey, tip of the cap, we
appreciate your car.
I guess that's what it'ssupposed to be.
Speaker 2 (55:49):
Yeah, no, it absolutely is, Anyway, okay well
, full story there.
Speaker 1 (55:54):
So again, you guys, have a great rest of your week.
We will see you back here onThursday.
Thanks so much for joining us.
We appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (56:01):
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Speaker 2 (56:29):
There is no doubt about it.
Well, welcome to, no Doubt About it, podcast Mark in
a different spot today he's inthe podcasting director's booth.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
No, it's not good.
It's not good.
I get you getting a big look atmy computer, so we'll kind of
do that for you.
Yeah, it's okay, a little bitof that.
It's not good.
I've.
Uh, I get you get a big look atmy computer, so we'll kind of
do that for you, yeah.
It's a little bit of that.
It's all right, it's a toughsituation.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Yeah, no, it's.
It's not the easiest thing,it's why I'm not doing it.
But uh, our girls, ava has leftfor Africa for a mission trip
for five weeks and Ella has alsoleft for a church camp
opportunity, and she's gone forthe week too.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Yeah, it's just us.
And, by the way, I dounderstand that Christy looks a
little blue on her camera.
Oh, do I?
Yeah.
So I had a little lightingissue and the only way I was
going to be able to get any sortof even light even close Was to
make me blue, was to make youblue, so I just figured you
could handle it.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Well, just tell people it's the methylene blue I
am.
Yes exactly Kind of now startedto shade my skin.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Yeah, you just poured it over the lens, so it's good.
Um, a couple of things here.
Uh oh, scouts joining us now.
She made it up the stairs, sothis is a big deal, cause scout
had double ACL surgery.
She did have double kneesurgery was not able to climb
the stairs for a long time.
And now she's doing better.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
She's doing a little better.
Yeah, she's kind of our.
You know, she's our family dog.
I mean, she is like our heart.
Yeah.
She's like our littlesweetheart of the family.
So we put her through thesurgery and she has recovered
quite nicely actually she has.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
It was definitely the right decision.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
It was and we were doubting it.
But she could hardly walk andwe decided to move ahead with it
and we were told 12 weeksrecovery but within like three
weeks she's really bounced backpretty well, she's at like four
or five now and she's, she'sdoing okay.
Yeah, so it was a.
It was a good decision by by us.
Yes, we were great on that oneUm so a couple of great.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
We were really great.
Um, so a couple of quick thingsfor you.
It's a interesting show in therespect that we're going to do
some local stuff First.
We've been talking about thisbill, this clean fuels bill
we've mentioned.
That is now in, effectively itis in.
The state environment board isgoing to start to enforce this
thing and the journal wrote anarticle on it today.
Uh, it was ridiculous, so we'llget into that.
(02:16):
Uh, another journal articlefrom our friend, jeff tucker,
who was on the show and managedto turn his time on the show
into a column.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Yeah, a couple of columns.
He's put a couple of columnstogether on his podcast on this,
which was a couple of episodesago.
So if you missed it, it's withJeff Tucker.
He is the opinion editor, orformer opinion editor, and he's
on the opinion board still.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
And yeah, so we were, we got, we got kind of animated
over the Bregman thing, so hewrote an article on it, and of
course he wrote it from hisperspective.
So, I would like to answer someof what he said.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Okay, and I'm sure he's anticipating you doing so.
So, oh yeah, he knows he'snobody.
He knows where that's going togo.
So, yeah, no worries.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Okay, absolutely, and then we'll march on from there.
There's just a heartbreakingstory about an Albuquerque
business owner who someonesteals from his store and he
goes out there, tries to shootthe tire of his car, shoots the
guy, kills him and now he'sfacing murder charges, you know,
and and it's just unbelievable.
And so we'll talk about that,because literally this week,
(03:16):
both Ava or Ella and I both hadexperiences with people ripping
stuff off at stores and and and,right up here, you know, in the
Albuquerque Heights.
I mean just it's out,completely and totally out of
control.
And then end of the year, right, and you get into the state
track meets across the country.
Well, the issue of men andwomen's sports is coming back up
(03:37):
again, and so we're going totalk about that.
Three different issues of thishappening and what the reaction
has been, and the reaction isstarting to change from people
as well.
And then this attack by theUkrainians on the Russians
unbelievable, unbelievable.
So we want to show you thatjust incredible.
A drone attack and the way theydid it was very clever, and
(03:59):
there's a lesson in this for theUnited States as well in future
warfare, warfare, because it ischanging, and then we of course
have, we'll end with a littlekicker about Jeeps.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Right, jeeps, cause our daughter drives a Jeep.
You had a Jeep for a long time.
We've actually had a handful ofJeeps in the family over the
years, so a little tip of thecap to the Jeep driver out there
that we are ending on.
So kind of a funny thing.
All right, let's dive into someof the mail we got we I just
pulled two today.
(04:31):
Two quick comments.
I did get a lot this week,which I appreciate.
I've read a lot of the emailsthat have come in and continue
to send those to us at info atno doubt about it, podcastcom.
Or you can go on our website nodoubt about it, podcastcom, and
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Over 13,000 subscribers, whichis good.
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That does help us quite a bit.
So thank you guys forcontinuing to do that.
Okay, so this first comment camein from bill.
Bill says uh, regarding therussia.
We talked a lot about russiaand trump last episode.
Russia, putin, is notcontrollable by trump.
This is very serious fact thatneeds to be calculated at a very
dangerous time in internationalrelations, which is exactly
what Mark was chatting about inthe last episode.
You know very much so justdiscussing the fact that Trump's
(05:13):
got his hands full with Putin,putin's not laying down for
anybody.
And what's interesting is I wasjust listening to a different
podcast with Newt Gingrich andhe said and I wrote it down
because I thought it was kind ofinteresting he just said, you
know, don't mistake Trump'spatience for timidity, and he
thinks that that is what Putincould be doing.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
Well, now everything has changed, though.
Remember, a bunch of theirnuclear bombers are gone.
Right, well, that's superrecent I mean yeah, yeah, no, no
, no, you're right, but yeah,yeah, no, no, no you're right,
but again, that's Ukraine side,right.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
So just thinking about okay, well is Trump?
You know?
Basically his patients arelooking or reviewing all this.
How does Putin look at this?
And Newt Gingrich basicallysaid hey, don't.
I hope Putin's not laying downbecause he's going to mistake
what Trump's actually doing here.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
You hope Putin's not laying down.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Yeah, meaning like Putin's, not just like just
thinking he's got this in thebag, kind of thing, because he
doesn't is basically what NewtGingrich was trying to say.
Trump may look like, but hesaid don't mistake Trump's
patience for timidity.
That's basically what he said,yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
And again, yeah, okay , okay.
Sure yeah no, I get it, andthat's probably hopefully you
know whatever, but but that'swhat we talked about in the last
episode is that Trump has tostand up, I mean, and say enough
.
And, by the way, putincontinues.
This is one thing that peopleare not, I don't think, fully
realizing, and today it's alittle more of a reality on a
Sunday after what's justhappened.
(06:35):
The warfighting machine ofRussia has been deeply, deeply
damaged, not only just fromwhat's just happened, but in
general, the amount of peoplethat they've lost.
This is bleeding them in bothpossible ways, which is horrible
all the way around, and becauseof what they've done, they've
gotten themselves in anincredibly difficult position.
(06:55):
So I think that that does go toBill's point, which is Putin has
a whole different set ofmotivations here, but I don't
know what that means.
You know who knows what itmeans.
But it could mean that you knowthe United States providing
more aid and I'm not talkingabout soldiers on the ground,
I'm talking about financial aidand deals, obviously, where
earth deals with the, with theUkrainians, which will help them
(07:18):
, uh, you know, fuel their,their defense machine and
possibly selling them moreweapons.
I mean, that's a possibilitytoo, and again, if Russia won't
stop attacking them, then youknow what are you going to do.
So that's what we've said onthis show anyway.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
Right.
Well, in a lot of our commentsthat came in I didn't I did not
clip them all, but a lot of themwere saying we need to be
really careful here because thisabsolutely could become the
next world war three.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Yeah, it could, but I don't think it will, so go
ahead.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Okay, you've heard that directly from Mark.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Yes, it will not happen.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
So, sagittarius, she is the woman that wrote, or
gentleman.
It could be a gentleman toothat wrote in, and I had to clip
the comment last time and theywrote back in.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Oh, the third question.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
The third question.
She had questions about MayorKen down in Las Cruces, if he
had a chance.
So he wrote back in and saidhey, no worries.
Here's the third part of myquestion.
Again, If Ken were to winagainst the other Democrats,
would he have a chance againstthe Republican candidates for
governor?
Also, I've got a new questionfor you Do you think that Keller
is going to do the June prideparade next month, considering
(08:17):
there's people on next sayingthey hope that doesn't happen
next month, which is actuallythis month now?
Speaker 2 (08:22):
So would you?
Yeah, OK, a couple of things onthis quickly.
Any Democrat who wins thenomination you have to remember,
in the state of New Mexico thatDemocrat walks into the general
election with a 15 pointregistration advantage.
So to think that any Democrat,whoever were to win, doesn't
have a chance is crazy.
So yeah, Mayor Ken wouldabsolutely have a chance.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
If he was to win the nomination, absolutely, he would
absolutely.
And the issue that goes backagain.
We talked about this last week.
You know, really it's going tobe tough for him to get the
nomination because a lot ofpeople up in the bulk of the
state have no idea who he is.
Right, you'll have to do allthat You're right.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
He's got some challenges ahead of him, but if
he were to get through somehow,some way have a chance.
So no question, no doubt.
Now, as far as mayor kellergoes, absolutely he'll be at the
pride pride parade.
That's a huge part of hisconstituency and for him not to
go to that would be asignificant mistake on his part.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
He will, he will go, he will go absolutely and I
believe that you'll see everydemocratic uh candidate for
governor bregman, deb holland,oh bregman, yeah, they'll all be
at the pride.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Oh yeah, yeah, bregman.
Now bregman will take thecowboy hat off or he'll put on a
rainbow-colored cowboy hat.
He'll change Well he's an actor.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
We all know he's an actor.
He just shows up whereverShowboat Sam will be ready to go
.
Showboat Sam, whatever you needhim to be, that's what he'll be
.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
We'll talk about him in just a second.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
Well let's dive in, because we started talking about
this.
Basically, it's going to boildown to a gas tax is really what
it sounds like to me, just as aconsumer.
You can call it whatever youwant, but basically this is
going to turn into a tax onpeople.
This is the story that we'vebeen mentioning here.
It is in the journal thismorning no-transcript.
(10:10):
Here's a couple of things fromthe story.
The clean fuel standard itselffollows a 2018 baseline.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
I just want to say one thing before you read this.
Yeah, what you're about to readis in this article.
To me, was, was, very, was,infuriating, because it was a
mouthpiece for, for the for, forpeople in power.
Okay, that's all this was.
So what you're about to readhere, just I want you to read
this and just tell me what itmeans.
If you're an average personsitting there at home reading
(10:38):
this, tell me if you have anyunderstanding of what you're
about to say.
Just finish it up and then letme know what it says.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
Okay.
The clean fuel standard itselffollows a 2018 baseline from
carbon intensities generated bygasoline, diesel and jet fuel.
The proposed rule would mandateannual carbon intensity
reductions in fuels to meetlegally required milestones at
least 20% below 2018 levels by2030, and at least 30% below
2018 by 2040.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
What does that even mean?
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Well, this is called a hefty rule.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
So hold on now, what they did here.
So then Michelle Miano saysshe's from the Environmental
Protection Division.
She gives away the game alittle bit and she says this is
a hefty rule, meaning this issignificant.
Okay, now does the reporterfrom the journal stop everything
down and say what do you mean?
(11:28):
What are you talking about?
What does hefty rule mean?
Hefty means expensive, just soyou know.
For all of us who pay taxes,hefty means expensive.
Hefty means a big climb, aheavy lift, a difficult go.
That's what.
That's what it means.
Now.
Do you get any explanation ofthat in this article?
The answer is no, you do not.
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So the minute she says it's ahefty rule, I want you then to
watch the magical pivot from theauthor of the story, which then
gets into all the great thingsit's going to do.
You don't talk at all.
There was a one quick, onequick soundbite given to Gail
Armstrong to be able to say thisis going to raise gas prices.
(12:09):
Because it is, and we'll showyou why in a second.
Well, I promise you we'll.
We'll give you that evidencehere in just a second.
But but the?
So they give some cursorylittle oh well, some people
don't like it, but and then justread this here we go.
You'd think we're headed forbig times ahead.
Go ahead.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Public Service Company of New Mexico has voiced
its support for the program andother companies like clean
energy businesses, 3degrees andautomotive tech and
manufacturing company Rivian.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
All right, hold on.
So right there, okay, you have.
It should be like saying oiland gas businesses support oil
and gas right.
Oil and gas businesses supportoil and gas right.
So then you have thesecompanies that come out, that
are involved in this line ofwork, that make big profit off
of it.
They're in, they're in, ofcourse, they are, go ahead, keep
going.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
That operates in other clean transportation fuel
markets in the US participatedin a public comment period in
January to support and influencehow New Mexico's program will
work.
Of course they did.
Of course they did, becausethey will benefit from it.
Yes, new Mexico environmentaldepartment officials also touted
new economic opportunities thatcould come with the $3 billion
alternative fuel market,attracting investments in
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industries like clean hydrogenor renewable propane.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Okay, again, this is the sort of thing that a good
reporter says wait a minute,what are we really looking at
here?
Instead, what we get in thisparticular case is no pushback,
no digging to find out what realdetails there are.
What $3 billion are you talkingabout, really, I mean?
Speaker 1 (13:37):
and so this is going to turn to be like the money we
were all supposed to make withwind and solar.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Well, I mean again, some wind, and solar is fine,
but it's just.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
This is not and some of it doesn't work at all.
So you know, I mean honestlylike the cleanup of that.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
If there is even cleanup on that is well you
can't, you can't base yourenergy grid on wind and solar.
Clearly, right, we all knowthat.
There's no doubt.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
But we don't all know that.
We all still there's, there'sgroups that still tout it and
give all these tax incentives todo so.
So I'm just saying this isanother one.
That's like saying oh well,suddenly, now we'll have $3
billion in alternative fuelmarkets from clean hydrogen and
renewable propane Right now it'sludicrous.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
I totally agree with you Along with wind and solar.
But here's my problem with thearticle which is the easiest
thing to do.
The easiest thing to do isbecause New Mexico would be the
fourth state to do this.
So then you just say hmm, youknow what I'm going to do.
Take the minimum amount of work, not just call the people at
the environment department andtranscribe their press release.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
Their press release, which is exactly what it says.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
I'm not going to just do that, I'm going to go look.
I'm going to say, hmm, if I golook at the most expensive
places to buy gas in the country, I wonder if I'll find those
three states that do this sameclean fuels bill.
You think there could be athing?
Oh well, let's take a look.
Oh, there it is.
Okay, let's take a look.
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Let's start with Hawaii, justthe first one, because Hawaii is
an island.
I don't know if any of you havebeen there.
It's a five-hour flight fromCalifornia, so it's kind of
expensive to get fuel out there.
So Hawaii is a bit of anoutlier.
Okay, all right, so so we'lljust pull Hawaii out of there,
cause it's.
That's a whole different set ofeconomic circumstances.
Is California One of the cleanfuel bill States?
It is average price per gallon$4 and 7 cents or 70 cents 70
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cents Washington.
Are they a clean fuel state?
Oh, they are as well.
$4.35 average Oregon.
Are they a clean fuel?
They are indeed so reallyremoving Hawaii.
The highest three cost states tobuy gasoline are the states
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that have the very bill that NewMexico is getting ready to
enact.
New Mexico, the state that hasthe highest number of people on
assistance that desperately needhelp and a hand up to afford
their daily lives.
We are not California, we arenot Washington and we are not
Oregon.
We don't have that kind ofmoney.
Here we have people that arescrapping every day to get to
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where they need to go.
And what is this going to do?
Likely going to raise theirgasoline prices anywhere between
30 and 50 cents a gallon.
And they have absolutely notbeen honest about this.
They've been asked about it andthey said it's not going to
happen.
Do we have reporters that sayare you kidding me?
Here are some simple facts.
Do they do it?
No, so we wonder why.
But he says why do the peoplewho stay in New Mexico?
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They never seem to get it.
Well, they don't get a wholelot of help from the people that
should help inform them.
They don't.
And this is a great example, youjust watch an article in the
journal which just is like hey,how can I help you?
How can I help you?
Let me write this story for you.
Let me just give one side ofthe story.
Oh, we'll give Gail Armstrong aquick little soundbite saying
taxes are going to go up, butshe's kind of a crazy Republican
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, so can we really trust her?
Let's go back to getting sixsoundbites from the other lady
who tells us how great it'sgoing to be, even though it's
going to be a heavy lift orwhatever she calls it.
So this is what is just soinfuriating is, you see, this
stuff and you're putting moreburden on people that cannot
afford it.
Every family buys gasoline,every family has to get their
family to various places to getto work, to get to school, and
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there is absolutely nodifference if you do this bill
in the state or not, other thanyou're just putting a tremendous
burden on people.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
Okay, do we know the status of this bill, like, do we
we know what's passed?
I?
Mean it's done, it's a donedeal.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
So like now this is a rules making process, right
this?
Speaker 1 (17:24):
is rules making now.
Now, this is like how do weenforce it?
Speaker 2 (17:26):
That's where we are now.
No, it's this.
Now.
This is like how do we enforceit?
That's where we are now.
No, it's this.
This is house bill 41.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
It passed in 2024 and so now we just get to see, uh,
how much this makes our gasprices tick back up, right?
Speaker 2 (17:41):
because it's basically gonna be a gas tax,
yes, of course you don't seethat in this article.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
No, you don't see any of it.
It's gonna be a gas tax touchit.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
She doesn't even touch it.
She didn't even do even themost minimum amount of work to
be a gas tax.
They don't even touch it.
She doesn't even touch it.
She didn't even do even themost minimum amount of work to
be able to say wait a minute.
Okay, you guys are saying allthis stuff's going to happen.
There's not a state in theunion that has tried this, that
is not one of the top states forgas prices.
How do you explain that?
Just ask that one question,please, please, stop being a
rubber stamp for power so thatthey can keep just rolling along
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and making life more expensiveand more difficult in the state.
Just help people out.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
And also, why would you not interview some of the
state legislators that voted infavor of this and that said,
yeah, this is a great idea.
Like that's what they don't?
Speaker 2 (18:22):
know, but wait a minute, they don't know.
You think those people know?
You think those statelegislators have any idea of how
this thing's going to be like?
They're just blindly goingabout it Now.
Now there are some, plenty ofstate legislators, both
Republican and Democrat, whovoted against it.
It only passed by a couple ofvotes in the Senate.
It was very close.
There are plenty of.
There were plenty of votesagainst this thing, and and so
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that's who I would have talkedto.
I would have gone to theDemocrat who who voted against
it because there are eight or 10of them and said, hey, what's
going on with this?
No, no, we don't do that.
We don't do that.
It's much easier to print thepress release.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Wow, yeah Well, it's going to be exciting to watch
our gas prices go up even morethan.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
Well, we'll see what happens with it, but push back.
You know you can go to thestate environmental board.
You, ken's, still comment onthis thing.
It's important to do it becausethere are really.
This will desperately hurtpeople in this state.
It really will.
I mean, there is nothing moreregressive.
Regressive meaning affectinglow-income people just as much
as high-income people, just onan even basis.
Meaning it affects low-incomepeople more because they have
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less money than this.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
Well, I'm guessing it's not just going to affect us
at the gas pump.
This would affect our utilities, would it like?
Would it if you, if you it?
Speaker 2 (19:34):
depends on what you're.
It depends on what you'refueling.
Your now pnm has always beenwrapped into the middle of this
stuff, so I don't know.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
Honestly, I don't know how that's gonna work well,
you can make your comments tothe environmental department.
You could also definitely stillpick up the phone and call your
state reps and say, hey, listen, like I am still adamantly
opposed to this.
I don't know what we can doabout it, but like I want to
make sure I'm voicing myawareness on this.
And again, when people say whydo we keep you know, why is it
important to maybe vote forsomebody different?
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This is why, like this is justone more example of why, when
you vote for the same people inthe state legislating office or
the same type of governor or thesame type of elected official,
you just get a repeat of highertaxes and more money coming back
, you know, being taken awayfrom everyday New Mexicans, and
you sit back and say, I wonderwhy this is happening.
Well, this is it.
This is exactly proof of whenyou just do not vote for change,
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you get a repeat of historyover and over and over.
So anyway, ok, let's.
Let's talk about you, you andJeff Tucker, going round and
round in the opinion journal.
Opinion column today in thejournal yes.
And it says here Jeff saysunleashed primary voters bode
well for centrists.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
Bregman campaign OK a couple of things, all right.
Well, let we'll go through whatJeff said here.
Bregman's not a centrist, butokay.
So here's what Jeff says, whathe said on this podcast, which
is true.
I told Mark I was leaningtoward Bernalillo County
District Attorney Sam Bregman inthe Democratic primary,
pointing out that crime isdriving politics across New
Mexico.
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I'm not sure that it is, butokay.
After all, bregman has strongcredentials as a courtroom
prosecutor Not really and adecades long civil and criminal
defense attorney that's true whohas litigated some of the
state's highest profile cases,sort of OK.
Mark Roncetti pointed out thatthe Democratic candidates at the
end of the political spectrumtend to defeat moderates in
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primaries, which is true.
But in the last good statewideDemocratic primary in 2022, then
Bernalillo County DistrictAttorney Raul Torres repeatedly
hammered then State AuditorBrian Colon on TV ads about
remarks Colon made in one of hispodcasts about defunding the
police.
Colon lost the Democraticprimary to Torres by almost
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10,000 votes, or sevenpercentage points, and Torres
claims claimed that he held themiddle ground.
Ok, here's the problem withwith that example, jeff, that is
, that nobody really knows muchabout Raul Torres, or they
definitely don't necessarilyknow a whole lot about Brian
Colon.
It's a.
It's a position that thatpeople don't tend to be as
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dialed in on.
It's not that they aren'timportant positions and that
they aren't too substantialpeople they are, but it's just.
That's a different kind ofexample.
But then he gets into what heforgot to mention on the show
here, which we'll talk abouthere.
It says, with the passage andenactment of Senate Bill 16
earlier this year, that growingblock of independent voters will
be able to choose the majorparty's primary ballot in 2026
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and vote for candidates withinthat primary without having to
drop their party affiliation.
Previously, independents couldvote in primary elections, but
only if they first changed theirparty affiliation to Democratic
or Republican.
Not many voters went throughthe hassle.
Fewer than 1% of independentvoters cast ballots in the
state's 2022 primaries.
The landscape will be muchdifferent in 2026, with 23.2% of
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the electorate up for grabswith the two major party
primaries.
Okay, so this is what I wouldtell Jeff.
First of all, independentsdon't vote in primaries.
It doesn't matter what therules are.
There's a reason.
They're independents and theydon't tend to jump in and vote
during primaries.
If you are the candidate whosays I'm going to get all these
independents to jump in and votefor me like we live in is not,
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and so what's going to happenhere is and this is what I asked
Jeff on at that very table,when we were sitting there, I
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said, jeff, tell me the ad thatSam Bregman runs on.
Deb Holland, tell me the andI'll give you the chance to jump
into this.
Christy, you tell me the ad.
If you're Sam Bregman andyou're trying to figure this out
, you go tell me the ad and thenI tell you how I'll respond as
Deb Holland.
Okay, so what is the best adthat you think, if you're Sam
Bregman, you're going to run toto take out Deb Holland?
Speaker 1 (24:00):
Well, I think they're going to try to show that she's
um, that she's ineffective, shehas never done anything for the
city of New Mexico.
It's going to just be likeviews of her Just just talking
about how ineffective she is.
They might bring up her pastDUIs.
No, you don't think you bringthose up.
No, you know, you don't touchthat, Okay.
Well, I mean, I'm just thinkingthat's kind of what I've heard
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about on X, but I think he'sgoing to try to say that I mean,
it was 30 years ago.
I understand we don't care aboutit and I don't think voters
actually care about it.
I'm just trying to say whatwould an ad what?
Speaker 2 (24:30):
are you going to hit her with?
Are you going to hear what shehasn't done?
Anything?
Speaker 1 (24:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
Okay, okay, here's what, here's what I'll come back
.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
That's what I think.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
While while you say I've been busy not doing
anything, I've been serving inCongress.
I've been standing up fornative Americans across this
country.
I served this country asinterior secretary.
I was a Congress.
You went to DC and fought everysingle day for the state of New
Mexico and to lift up lowincome families.
What were you doing?
You were ambulance chasing Sam.
You were out there chasingcameras, trying to get money for
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your clients, and then youdecided, oh, at the last second,
I think I'll try to be DA andI'll get appointed to do that.
Thank you, johnny.
Come lately, but you happen tobe a DA for the most violent
city in the country, so whydon't you just sit down and do
your job?
What happens then?
Go ahead.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
Well, I think he's going to come back, guns a
blazing, like he always does,like he's going to ask cowboy
hat on, and he's going to belike I've done.
This is all the.
He's going to list all thecrime rates that he's brought
down.
I think that's what he's goingto try to say he's done, because
that's what I've seen him doingis that he's taking credit for,
you know, cleaning up the cityand cleaning up things which has
not clean, and not cleaned upin my mind at all, or nor do we
feel it whatsoever.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
And then and then the next ad I run on you is your
showboat, sam.
So who are you this week?
Who are you Right?
Are you Woody from toy story?
You got the chaps on, you gotthe hat on.
Oh, that's what you're doingtoo.
Got a lot of oil and gas moneyin there.
Are you a Republican?
Are you a Democrat?
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Are you in a?
Who are you?
We don't even know, but we'reDemocrats and we care about this
, and you go and treat us likewe're fools and you can act like
whoever you want.
You can act like whoever youfeel like being that day.
Well, some of us have beenDemocrats our whole lives, sam,
so why don't you wake up andcome on to the party here?
Thanks for showing up.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Well, yeah, I just think it's.
Here's what I think I mean,regardless of the ads which I do
think are still very effective,by the way which a lot of
people are like do these adsreally work?
Well, yeah, they do.
They can.
They can absolutely dictateturnout for voters.
But I just think, at the end ofthe day, she's Native American,
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she's a woman, she's held anational office and they're
going to, she's going to haveall the money aimed in her
direction and you can do a lotwith money and I think what you
said at the very beginning ofthis is you know, what people
are always concerned about andtalk about on X a lot is that
she doesn't come off veryintelligent.
Well, they're going to makesure her team is going to
protect her, keep her from doinga lot of press conferences, and
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they're going to keep her awayfrom debating Sam Bregman, who's
an attorney, so I'm sureBregman could clean the floor
with her in a debate.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
Oh, there's no question.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
I'm imagining that that would happen.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
I totally agree with that.
I'm not saying he couldn't beeffective in a debate, but but
he's also, you know, it's justnever going to happen.
It's like, yeah, that would begreat.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
I think he's going to come off.
I mean, this is just me knowingand watching and being part of
campaigns.
Sam's going to come off like abully.
That's right.
That's, that's what he's goingto come off like, and it's going
to be very difficult for him tonot come off like a bully.
It is a very hard thing and Imean it's tough to say this, but
it is tough to run against awoman in any state, and
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especially in New Mexico.
You run against a woman and ifyou come off even slightly cocky
and arrogant which he alreadyhas and he already has that
reputation it is going to bethat he is putting down women
and that he thinks he's smarterthan her and all of these.
I mean he's going to come offlike a bully and it's that's.
The thing is like, you know sowill that?
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Will that connect with voters?
And I just think, at the end ofthe day you're looking at, when
you look at the primary voterfor the Democratic Party,
they're not looking for the guyin the middle that's going to
keep crime down and going totake the guns.
You know it's like that's notwhat they're looking for.
He's a gun owner, he believesin gun rights, he's you know all
of these other things too.
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The far left primary voter isagainst all of that.
So I just don't know how that.
I don't even know how he's acandidate if I'm being honest,
right, this is.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
this is a.
This is a spot where I thinkthat people use there.
It's just political realities,and the political reality is
that in the democratic partyright now, the democratic party
is much closer to Deb Hollandthan it is to what Sam Bregman
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has created himself to be thisweek.
So, therefore, that's whyHolland's going to clock him.
I mean now now Holland's got torun a smart campaign.
She's got to when what I meanby that is do not make yourself
available Like you.
Just do not make yourselfavailable, just keep yourself
much more in much morestructured environments that
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help you as a candidate.
And every candidate hasdifferent strengths.
So you know, and I always hate,I'm sorry, and when people say,
oh, this candidate's stupid, Ihate that because I just think
it's, it's irritating.
So when people say, oh, she'snot smart, whatever, I don't
know whether she's, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
I think for voters and this is what I've always
said is it was the same.
It was the same thing that whenpeople would say would say you
know, mark's just the weatherman, I was like you clearly have
never heard him speak, you'venever gone to hear him talk
about policies, You've neverbeen, you've never read any of
his policy presentations on hiswebsite.
You never have gone to a townhall.
You haven't actually listenedto the guy who, who knows all
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this, has studied all this foryears, for a decade, before he
even attempted to run.
So I just think there is thatwhole thing of you're just this
or you're just that.
I just think the likability ofSam Bregman is very low,
especially I'm just going to saythis with women.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
Yes, and that is the perfect point, because what
percentage of Democratic votersare women right now?
The party is dominated by women.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
Right.
I mean I just think we see that.
We saw that even in your race,we see it in other races.
I just think it's going to beinteresting on what of the who,
what candidate is going toconnect the most with women?
And I just think I mean I'veheard that Sam Bregman's license
plate something says like thegovernor or the gov or something
is horse rate.
He owns a horse or something,and it's also called the
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governor.
It's a guy that has a huge egowalking to a room.
You can feel that when you seehis announcement you you feel
that like bravado, like check meout, I have all this bravado.
And I just think I don't knowif that's the right approach
when you're looking at the voterthat's going to actually be
determining who's going to bethe primarial candidate for a
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democratic party.
It's not him.
I mean I would be shocked, Iwill be shocked if it's him.
No, that's real logic If shesteps all over herself or
something.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
Yeah, we agree on that.
She has the potential to blowher own candidacy up.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
And I also don't believe I mean I hate to say
this, but obviously we learnedthis too.
I believe you were amazing inthe debates.
I don't think the debates,unless you were Joe Biden, have
an actual you know that.
You know that actually put thatmuch out there for the voters,
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especially if they push thedebates really far up against
the voting line, like if it'spast a voting.
For instance, like when you didthe Senate race, ben Ray pushed
that debate till after earlyvoting had already started.
So, like he he wasn't a fool,he knew he couldn't get into the
debate ring with you and hedidn't want to too early on, so
they kept pushing it and keptpushing it until early voting
had already begun.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
Yeah, and and and, but this isn't.
She's not going to debate him,so like that's not going to
matter now.
So the primary debates, uh,those are always a little more
dicey, right, because you canend up doing a, a like a
candidate forum.
I would not be surprised ifthey end up on the same stage as
a candidate forum, but again,no one will see it right.
Unless something really badhappens at that candidate forum,
nobody will see it Right.
(32:01):
So it doesn't.
So that part doesn't matter.
It's the televised debate whereyou may get four or five ratings
, so 40,000 to 50,000 people maywatch it maybe.
And again, the one debate wehad was like 70,000 people
watched it.
But again, yeah, I think itwent well for us, but it doesn't
.
But unless something really badhappens and michelle was more
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than accomplished enough that,yeah, she, she took the punches,
she didn't appreciate it, shedidn't enjoy it.
You know, when we were done,she'd had enough of me, but but
she also knew that nothingmelted down for her.
Now, something different forholland, that could be the case,
but but you're right on thebregman thing.
That just another example.
But this is the stuff peopledon't realize is that they just
see.
They see Bregman talk to likewell, bregman, like Jeff, I
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think, is making that mistake.
And then you realize what youjust said, which is the
electorate.
Especially now in thedemocratic party, it's hard to
find a ton of men who areDemocrats really, that are
voting democratic, you knowright now, because of the issue
set and things like that.
And so because of that, and howpowerful women's voices are in
the Democratic Party, you'reexactly right.
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Sam is a bully.
Sam in an electorate that islargely women, and then Sam in a
party that appears to be moreleft than his latest creation is
.
He has no chance unless DebHaaland melts down and gives him
one.
Anyone who tells you he doesdoesn't know what they're
talking about.
Now we could end up in anunbelievable crow-eating
(33:27):
situation here.
We may have just massive pilesof crow coming up here if
Bregman wins and if Bregman wins, don't get me wrong, he'll be
very well positioned to win thegeneral.
Don't get me wrong.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
Right, very well positioned to win, the win the
general.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
Don't get me wrong, right.
So I'm not saying he's a badcandidate either.
I'm just telling you that theway this race is playing out, he
has no chance for an actualprimary candidate.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
Um, we've we've fully admitted that he'd be very
difficult to beat in a generalelection.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
Yeah, Again for that 15%, 15% registration advantage
they have right off the shoot.
And so yeah, so that that'stough to beat.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
So anyway, okay, we spent a lot of time on this.
We may have dove too much.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
Well, that's all right, that's all right, it's
good stuff, okay, next story Abusiness owner in Albuquerque,
somebody.
Somebody goes into his store heowns like a hookah shop.
Somebody goes in there, stealstuff.
And I want to play this storyfor you because I thought
channel 13 did somethinginteresting here.
Fairly basic story from channel13.
But then at the end, deanStaley lays out what the
(34:27):
criminal background is of thisperson and it is significant and
I think channel 13 did that fora reason.
I think they did that to beable to say, uh, hello, look at
this you know, so I just wantyou to listen to this a little
bit.
Speaker 4 (34:41):
Police say the owner of Moe's Smoke Shop shot a
shoplifter who was reversing hiscar away from the store.
We spoke with someone who worksnearby who saw part of what
happened.
Speaker 6 (34:51):
A lot of commotion.
We went ahead and came to thewindows by my work.
We looked out.
We saw a guy running out thatfled in a white like Toyota
Camry, and then we saw the ownerof the smoke shop also out
there.
Speaker 4 (35:06):
Matassa Mahir Thabata , the owner of Moe's Smoke Shop,
is facing a murder charge.
According to a police report,officers arrived around 3 pm
yesterday to a shopping centernear Lomas and San Mateo to find
a burned car and a manidentified as Matthew Cedillo
dead on the ground with a bulletwound.
(35:26):
They later spoke to Thabata,who admitted to shooting at
Cedillo, who, he says, stole twoshirts and a glass bong from
his store before trying to fleein a car.
Thabata says he was trying toshoot the tire, but instead
Cedillo was hit and killed.
The car crashed into anothervehicle in the Sprouts parking
lot, then ended up across thestreet where it hit a curb and
(35:49):
caught fire.
Thabata told officers he wasangry and that he doesn't like
violence, but he said Cedilloleft him no choice At the end of
the day, as frustrating as itcan be, it's just inventory.
Speaker 6 (36:02):
Most businesses, including ours, has insurance
for that and it's never worthtaking or risking your own life
for just inventory.
Speaker 4 (36:09):
The total amount of stolen merchandise was $75.
Tabata does not have asignificant criminal history in
New Mexico.
Back to you All right.
Speaker 5 (36:22):
Thanks, Marilyn.
Court records show the man whowas killed, 40-year-old Matthew
Cedillo, had a lengthy criminalhistory, with charges for
burglary, shoplifting,trespassing and forging checks,
but in recent years he hasrarely faced prosecution.
His rap sheet includes chargesin at least 13 separate cases in
the last five years, but inmore than half of those cases he
(36:43):
was found incompetent to standtrial and the charges were
dismissed.
Only two of the 13 casesresulted in convictions.
Speaker 2 (36:52):
Okay.
So there's why I mean I thinkthey went out of their way to
lay out how significant hiscriminal history is, and good
for Channel 13 for doing that.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
And morphing his pictures, all of his mugshots.
I mean I thought that wasimpressive.
Yeah, yeah, no, I spoke volumesof how many times this guy's
been arrested, right.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
And I think it just.
This is so heartbreaking.
And a couple of quick things.
The girl with the soundbite atthe end that said it's just
inventory.
Speaker 4 (37:14):
Right.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
That's just not true, because what it is is that we
have a social fabric that's beenripped apart in the state of
New Mexico.
People walk into stores andthink they do not have to pay
anymore, they can do whateverthey want, and this is a great
example of just continuing toslide down that road, where this
guy is now going to face murdercharges and what.
(37:34):
So now it becomes go takewhatever you'd like.
It's just inventory.
And so we saw that.
I saw this three days ago atthe Albertsons, on Paseo and
Ventura.
A guy comes walking out withtwo bottles of wine and roses,
clearly on something screamingat the Albertson staff don't
come near me or I'll kill you,and he looked like he would
(37:55):
absolutely do it.
Speaker 1 (37:57):
Well, and the sad thing is is we shop there a lot
and that is a frequent thingthat's happening there, I you
know the thing that's even moretroubling, um, I mean we got
letters, actually emails, thisweek talking about how they're
watching the Smiths on Mateo anduh, I'm sorry, montgomery and
tramway.
Same situation where they walkin and they see teenagers and
just taking liquor and takingalcohol, and just taking
(38:18):
whatever they want and theyleave.
And it's becoming this pattern.
Yesterday, yesterday, ella isinside a Walgreens on Paseo and
a homeless guy comes in therewith his pants completely off
and he's got no underwear on andhe's just walking around
exposing himself to everybodyand somehow that's supposed to
just be okay.
And you know, our daughter is 16years old and I'm just thinking
(38:39):
where in the world did we say,hey, this is okay and security
is just chasing the guy out, butat what cost?
Like he's going to turn aroundand come back.
I mean, I just think, yeah, youcan sit around and say it's
just inventory, or this is justthe way it is now, we can all
just continue to settle for that, or we can actually get a mayor
in here who makes actualchanges and says listen, enough
(38:59):
is enough and we are going tocrack down on all of this
because you can.
You can stop fighting.
I mean you can start crackingdown on the homelessness and the
shoplifters and the strong useof drugs, cause I guarantee you,
the person that you guys saw inAlbertson's coming out was out
of his mind it was on meth.
Speaker 2 (39:15):
It was clearly on meth.
Speaker 1 (39:16):
So it's like, okay, we can start cracking down on
the on drug use as well.
I just think enough of enoughof just saying, oh, this is just
the way it's going to be now inin our great in our, in our
society has decayed, yeah, tothe point where we can't, we
cannot.
Speaker 2 (39:28):
There is no more social compact with each other
to to be safe, to be respectful.
Any of that.
It's gone, and this is whathappened.
We're getting more and moreinto mad Max territory.
Where it is, what are you goingto do?
And I've never.
You know.
You look at carrying a gun andconceal carry.
I think that's an option for alot of people and I get it.
That's that's important to us,because it's just, you get to a
(39:50):
certain point where where yourealize that you have a choice
to make, and then you see this,this guy in his store, and, and
now he's going to face charges.
Should this guy in his store?
And and now he's going to facecharges.
Should he face charges?
I don't murder charges, no, butI don't know what.
I don't know where that goes,but it's awful.
It's awful because where we arenow, this is, this is what you
(40:11):
know this city and state hasbecome.
We cannot let this happen.
And again it's.
This is something that affectseverybody.
Speaker 1 (40:15):
Well, it's affecting already.
Stores are closing down becausethey can't afford the insurance
claims anymore from gettingripped off or broken into or
caught on fire or whatever seemsto keep happening to these
businesses.
I don't know why Channel 13would find anybody.
That's that brave, I guess, orthat's stupid to get on there
and say, oh, it's just inventory.
It's not just inventory anymore, this is a culture war that is
(40:36):
just taken off.
It is wrecking our city.
And.
I don't know how you keep votingfor the same mayor at this
point or thinking that that'sgoing to change things, because
it's not.
He's had his day, he's dad hasday to fix this and he has made
it much worse.
So my vote is do not vote thatguy back in, please.
Whatever you're doing, do not.
All right, sorry.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
I am no, no, get it.
I am so tired of this.
No, I understand, I get it.
I understand your point.
Speaker 1 (40:57):
It's not safe here anymore and we need a real
change.
And you only get real change byelecting new people.
Yeah, End of story.
Speaker 2 (41:05):
Okay, all right, no-transcript, and, and I and I
think it it really you'restarting to see some of this
(41:26):
stuff that is just unbelievable,so, and I think it's stretching
into an area that is that Ithat, I think, is really I
painful in so many differentways for so many different
people, not only the girls inthe sports, who I feel most for,
who just lose their opportunity.
All right, but then, but thenyou see, when you have this
story, this Veronica Garcia Idon't, I don't know what
(41:47):
Veronica's name was before,veronica, but is a biological
male in Washington state won the400 meter state title.
Okay, and I want you to listento the crowd's reaction to when
the second place person isannounced first and then
veronica is announced.
Okay, lauren matthews, do thatcheer.
(42:10):
Okay, here we go, first place,your 2025 winner in a time of
55.70, from East Valley ofSpokane Veronica Garcia Okay,
veronica Garcia your biologicalboy and I just you know, you see
(42:34):
that, and it's just, it'shorrendous.
And so here's the race righthere.
And then Garcia ended upwinning and so it just it's not
good.
I mean, it is something that isthat is really damaging because
you got the kid.
And then Garcia says after therace this just makes me want to
run even more.
And all of a sudden you're likewhat are you doing?
(42:54):
Like what are these adultsdoing that are like sanctioning
this stuff?
And you get this kid going inthere like I just wanted to run
more.
Well, yeah, okay, guy, I get it, but guess what?
It's not your race to run.
Speaker 1 (43:06):
It's not your race to run, it's very similar.
I know we don't have this onein here, but AB Hernandez.
He's the 16 year oldtransgender girl in California.
Very similar, long, jump rightand just bypasses the second
place, older by a lot, and it'sjust.
It's maddening because Trumphas said listen, no more federal
(43:26):
funding for California.
When you're doing things, Imean it's just like calling it
out.
And I mean Gavin Newsom hassaid I don't really know how to
handle all this.
I mean he's the, he's been puton the record saying I'm not
really sure.
Speaker 2 (43:35):
Well, no, he's backed off it because he realizes that
it's a loser and it and itdoesn't make sense and people
are starting to push back.
So you see the crowd therewho's like no right, no Right,
and so that again you're goingto start.
You're p's the girl who gotsecond after the race.
(43:57):
Here's her picture and she saysWashington State track and
field real girls to a 400 meterchampion.
I mean you don't blame her forsaying that.
I mean it's hard to blame herfor saying that.
You know she has every right tosay that because of what's
happened, right, right and so,and it's not.
You know, it's not just this,you know here, check this one
(44:17):
out, listen to this.
This is a tweet from RileyGaines.
Speaker 1 (44:20):
Yes, this is last night.
A man single-handedly carriedhis high school in Minnesota to
a class four a softballchampionship.
He pitched 14 shutout inningsand back-to-back games to defeat
.
The defending state champs 14shutout innings.
You are a shameful, sorryexcuse for a man, governor Tim
Waltz.
And then here is the video ofthis taking place yeah there it
(44:43):
is.
I mean just unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (44:45):
I mean, think about that, cause that's two straight
games is what Riley's talkingabout there.
That is two straight games justshutting and that is just
ending.
Somebody state championshiphopes and that's just.
It's craziness, right.
And then again, getting back tothe frustration, I want to show
you another video here Girlswho got third and fourth in a
race Okay, they just end upwalking off the podium because
(45:12):
there's they've added a boy ontothe podium.
So here are these girls justwalking off.
They're just like, yeah, we'redone, yeah, we're not doing that
, thanks anyway.
I mean, this is reaching aboiling point.
Speaker 1 (45:24):
Well, it continues to happen in a lot of the States
that are trying to push theenvelope.
I guess I mean it's just weird,like you think maybe you won't
hear anything about it anymore.
You definitely do.
It's still happening.
So it will be interesting tosee how does New Mexico deal
with this next year, because youknow our daughter swam against
boys on the girls swimming teamand it will be interesting to
(45:45):
see.
Are they still swimming inthose?
I mean, is it is anythingchanging?
Even you know, even under thisexecutive order, our schools and
school districts abiding by theexecutive order.
Yeah, it's interesting, andit's just again now I've even
heard more recent stats that nowit's only like 13%, maybe still
support.
Speaker 2 (46:05):
There's nobody that's support.
It's craziness.
Nobody everybody knows youcan't do this.
It's ludicrous and I think it'sgoing to take.
I think it's going to take, youknow, people standing up, even
people left of center standingup, just saying no enough, stop
it, stop it.
Just.
This is not going to happen, itcannot happen anymore.
Speaker 1 (46:21):
Well, you, I'm sorry.
You need women to stand up onthis like grown women, because
of the largest supporters ofthis movement.
They're the largest supportersof saying it's okay to have the
transgender girls in thesewomen's sports.
That's who's doing this.
So you need all the moms andall the women to grow up and
support and back girls in girlssports, plain and simple.
You not see a lot of guyssupporting this, a lot of men
(46:44):
supporting this.
You see other moms and womensaying that somehow this is a
good thing, like we'll just goagainst Title IX.
No big deal, no big deal at all.
Speaker 2 (46:53):
It's not a Title IX, it's logic.
I mean, forget title nine,right.
Speaker 1 (46:57):
I mean, I don't want you to forget title nine.
We fought so hard to get titlenine.
Speaker 2 (47:00):
I understand that but we're not even getting the
title nine.
This is not even to that.
This is just like hey, don't becrazy and allow boys take over
girl sports.
It's nuts, All right.
We got to quickly get to theUkraine stuff.
Yes, this is wild.
I want you to read this tweetbecause it sort of explains a
little bit what the Ukrainiansdid Saturday night into Sunday
to the Russians, which is thismatters in the United States too
(47:23):
, and we'll explain why that is.
Speaker 1 (47:24):
So Maria Avdiva, I think, is her name.
This will be in the textbooks.
Ukraine secretly delivered FPVdrones and wooden mobile cabins
into Russia.
The drones were hidden underthe roofs of the cabins, which
were later mounted on trucks.
At the signal, the roofs openedremotely, and here you're
sliding through some of thepictures.
Yeah, showing the pictures.
Speaker 2 (47:56):
And then here's video of the drone taking off from
one of these boxes here, and youcan see there it is, and this
is in Russia, this is wellwithin Russia, this is right
outside their bases.
So they set these boxes up andthen they just release the
drones, they go in and then thedrones hit these nuke bombers,
(48:17):
which are, I mean, the damage isincalculable, it's unbelievable
.
Here's some video of thebombers.
Look at all the bombers on firehere, just one after another.
These things are, you know,hundreds of millions of dollars
a piece at least.
Right, I mean, some of ourbombers are billion dollars.
It's crazy, and you can seethey just blew them all up.
(48:38):
I mean, this is the sort ofthing, and the reason it matters
to the United States is becausewe have assets like this
sitting at airfields across theworld, and so this does change
things in that respect.
But the Ukrainians doing thisunbelievable and here's one
other thing is a picture righthere what they also did was
these are the boxes right whenthe where the drones came out of
(48:58):
.
Well, the Ukrainians weren'tthere.
They just brought the boxes inand left Right and then they
remotely boom, send them off.
Well then, when the Russians goto respond and they realize, oh
my God, these drones are comingin from these boxes, let's go
shut the boxes down.
They blow the boxes up.
I mean, it is unbelievable.
And this is what Sean McGuiresaid he's one of these tech guys
(49:21):
said this and this is somethingthat this is where our military
is headed.
This is where we've been headedfor five, six years, I think,
probably maybe more than that.
Okay, and he says Ukraine justmounted an attack that marks a
turning point in the history ofwarfare.
Hundreds of drones werepre-deployed and then struck 40
plus aircraft and a hundredkilometers inside of Russia.
Speaker 1 (49:41):
A thousand kilometers inside of Russia.
Oh, excuse me.
Speaker 2 (49:43):
A thousand Sorry, yeah, one billion in damage by
less than a million dollars indrones.
Critical infrastructure is nolonger safe.
That matters to the UnitedStates, that we have to be able
to fight wars and understand howwars will be fought in the
future, and we better have thetechnology to handle being able
to take out drones, and we willhave drones of our own, clearly
(50:05):
that we already do.
Well clearly.
Speaker 1 (50:06):
I mean again do we need to talk about the drones
off the East Coast again?
Speaker 2 (50:09):
That whole thing Like whatever happened with that?
Speaker 1 (50:11):
We're just told that hey, it was American, we were
everything's fine.
Trump said no more questions,please, or whatever.
Speaker 2 (50:17):
So let's wrap it up.
Speaker 1 (50:24):
Apparently, that's what we're hopefully heading
towards is being able to notonly identify when drones come
our way, because that does seemlike the new wave of military
action right there is is who'sgoing to be, who's going to have
the most advanced drones nowand who's going to be able to
operate those.
I mean, we watched you and Iwent in submission impossible.
The new mission impossible.
Final reckoning this past week.
And even you know all of theRussian.
You know it was Russia andChina and this AI thing that was
(50:46):
coming like basically takingover the world.
Ai, this AI robot was takingover the world and I'm like
that's kind of frighteningbecause there is some little
level of of a reality check inthere of what is the warfare
becoming and how are we shapingthings?
Speaker 2 (50:59):
That's a good drawback.
Very true, I mean, that's thekind of thing we got to start
paying attention to.
We got to start payingattention to what's going on in
Mission Impossible.
Speaker 1 (51:06):
We might need Tom Cruise to come and save us.
Speaker 2 (51:08):
No, you're totally right, but no it just is just,
but the future of you know thethought of Long movie, by the
way, long movie.
But, but movie, by the way,long, but, but it is um.
Yeah, it was long, it was solid, um, but I will say that you
know you've watched whathappened to the russian tanks
because of the ukrainian drones,like you're seeing all these
things like tanks.
In some ways are theycompletely obsolete now, because
(51:28):
they're so big, then you'resaying there's no more ground
game.
Speaker 1 (51:31):
Is what you're saying ?
If that's what you really think, is there really no more ground
game well, it depends on thewar, right.
Speaker 2 (51:36):
It depends on the theater that you're operating in
and I'm no expert on this, Ihave no clue but but I'm just
saying that you know a lot ofthings like these smaller, more
maneuverable things.
I mean, are we going to havejet fighters anymore?
No, we're going to have drones.
Like why would we send, whywould we send a pilot into that
right when you can be, you know,below a mountain in colorado
springs running?
Speaker 1 (51:55):
Well, okay, but here's the question then Do you
need the jet fighters to be ableto go in um shoot off other
drones?
You know that are coming ourdirection?
That's to me, what you woulduse a jet fighter for right Is
to be able to pinpoint thosedrones and take those guys out.
Speaker 2 (52:08):
Would you not use your own drones to do that?
Speaker 1 (52:10):
I think that would be really hard, but I guess I'm
not a drone expert Like.
Speaker 2 (52:13):
I'm not a military expert, Listen I watched Mission
Impossible.
Speaker 1 (52:16):
That's what.
Speaker 2 (52:16):
I do.
That's a good point.
Speaker 1 (52:17):
I watch military movies and I read some military
books from time to time.
That is the level of myexpertise on.
Speaker 2 (52:24):
What should we do militarily to support?
We have one last, all right, sowe have one last story and you
want to get to this.
Speaker 1 (52:30):
Well, I did, because our daughter she's been telling
me about the Jeep wave and sowhen I read this story in Motor
Trend I was like, okay, this, Iguess, is a real thing.
I thought it was just a teenagething.
It turns out it's not.
The Jeep wave explained.
And are you doing it wrong?
I don't know if you knew aboutthis or not.
No, I did not.
Basically, there's like if youown a Jeep, okay, there are
certain rules to this.
Basically, it boils down tothis it's called the vintage
(52:52):
coefficient right.
So respect efficient coefficientright so respect your elders is
basically what this?
Means yeah older jeeps rankhigher than new jeeps, so when
you're passing the road rightthe rule of the order of the
road is that if you have a newerjeep, you have to wave first to
the older jeep oh, it's a signof respect, it's a sign of
respect okay now they basicallyboil this down, the article.
(53:13):
I'm not going to go into majordetail but, they believe it
started kind of back in militarydays when they had the Jeeps.
Speaker 2 (53:19):
Yeah, the old willies .
Speaker 1 (53:20):
Yeah, you would do like a two finger wave to each
other and whether you had doorsor didn't have a door or
whatever, and or had a roof onor whatever, this is what you
would do.
So basically, it's kind of comealong, does it?
Does it matter?
Here's a couple of the rules,right?
So, um, jeeps lower on thehierarchy to start the wave, yep
, um, older Jeeps are at the topof that hierarchy, so don't
(53:42):
mess around with that.
If you see an older Jeep, yeah,you go first.
Speaker 2 (53:44):
You no, if you have an older Jeep, you do not go
first, no, no, no, yeah, yeah,if you have the, if you have the
.
Speaker 1 (53:53):
Here's another trick All Jeep vehicles I mean
everything that's considered aJeep participates in the Jeep
Wave.
What, yes?
And even if you're?
Speaker 2 (54:01):
renting, Even the Grand Wagoneer.
Speaker 1 (54:02):
Yes even the Grand Wagoneer, and if you're renting
a Jeep, you also participate.
Speaker 2 (54:06):
Oh, you're back in.
You've got to do it.
Speaker 1 (54:07):
You're in and so it could be a defense thing and
there's all these rules about it, it of fingers and arm raised
through the open roof or out thedoor, okay, but, it's just two
fingers two fingers.
Speaker 2 (54:18):
Okay, it's a pair of fingers Okay.
Speaker 1 (54:20):
Heaven forbid, don't give him the whole hand.
Okay, okay and then this otherthing that I thought was kind of
crazy was the Jeep ducking,okay.
Speaker 2 (54:30):
So if you've seen this or not, I have with Ella
cause she drives a Jeep, so Iwas like what are all the rubber
ducks Right?
Speaker 1 (54:40):
What's up with the rubber?
Basically, it's kind of a newdevelopment, new Jeep culture.
It's supposed to be thisgesture that if you're driving a
Jeep and somebody appreciatesyour Jeep, another Jeep owner
will put a rubber ducky on thehood of your vehicle as like a
gift, like a token.
Okay, you collect them, you putthem on your dashboard and then
you pass them out when you findanother Jeep that's to your
liking.
Speaker 2 (54:52):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (54:52):
It's called Jeep ducking.
Okay, so anyway.
And can anybody do the Jeepwave?
Yep, anybody can do the Jeepwave as long as you're driving
in a Jeep.
Speaker 2 (55:00):
But you cannot.
I can't be in a Bronco and giveyou a Jeep wave.
Speaker 1 (55:03):
No, that would be a Bronco wave and I'm not sure I
don't have any rules on theBronco wave.
but we could start one.
I guess we could just startcreating one.
Weird, we'd have to borrowsomeone's bronco and go around
and start doing that.
(55:23):
Anyway, I did that as a tribute.
Yeah, no, I think it'sfantastic.
I know that you used to have ajeep too, um, a couple jeeps,
but yes, all jeeps.
You guys, if you're a jeepowner out there, I'm sure you
already know about the wave.
I haven't even started this foryou, I haven't explained it to
you.
You already knew about it andapparently go out and buy those
rubber duckies and be ready toput those on various je cars,
absolutely.
I wouldn't mind a ducky left onmy car, no, that's kind of cool.
I don't drive a Jeep, but Iwould still appreciate a little
(55:44):
love token left on my car thatsays hey, tip of the cap, we
appreciate your car.
I guess that's what it'ssupposed to be.
Speaker 2 (55:49):
Yeah, no, it absolutely is, Anyway, okay well
, full story there.
Speaker 1 (55:54):
So again, you guys, have a great rest of your week.
We will see you back here onThursday.
Thanks so much for joining us.
We appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (56:01):
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I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace. I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!
Crime Junkie
Does hearing about a true crime case always leave you scouring the internet for the truth behind the story? Dive into your next mystery with Crime Junkie. Every Monday, join your host Ashley Flowers as she unravels all the details of infamous and underreported true crime cases with her best friend Brit Prawat. From cold cases to missing persons and heroes in our community who seek justice, Crime Junkie is your destination for theories and stories you won’t hear anywhere else. Whether you're a seasoned true crime enthusiast or new to the genre, you'll find yourself on the edge of your seat awaiting a new episode every Monday. If you can never get enough true crime... Congratulations, you’ve found your people. Follow to join a community of Crime Junkies! Crime Junkie is presented by audiochuck Media Company.
Ridiculous History
History is beautiful, brutal and, often, ridiculous. Join Ben Bowlin and Noel Brown as they dive into some of the weirdest stories from across the span of human civilization in Ridiculous History, a podcast by iHeartRadio.