Episode 202: America Shows Its Power: The Strike That Changed the Middle East. Plus Warrior For Women's Sports Payton McNabb!

🇺🇸 U.S. Bombs Iran's Nuclear Facilities

We kick off with the breaking news that’s dominating headlines around the world—President Trump’s decision to bomb Iran’s nuclear facilities.
We cover:

• How it went down and what intelligence led to the strike
• The bipartisan backlash—and why most Americans actually support the move
• What Iran might do next and why we’re betting they won’t escalate

Mark breaks it all down with insights from post-strike interviews with Senator JD Vance and Senator Marco Rubio—and why they believe this was a necessary step to protect the U.S. and the free world.

🏐 Payton McNabb: The Face of the Fight for Women’s Sports

Next, we welcome a guest you won’t forget—Payton McNabb, the high school volleyball player who was struck in the face by a transgender athlete, suffering severe and lasting injuries.
But her story doesn’t end there.

🔥 Payton tells us how she was kicked out of her sorority, Delta Zeta, for speaking up—and why she’s refusing to back down.
This conversation is raw, emotional, and a must-listen for every parent, athlete, and voter.

🖼️ The Greatest Art Heist of All Time?

We end on a lighter but fascinating note.
Krysty and Ella recount their visit to a legendary museum that was the site of the largest unsolved art heist in history.
What was taken? Who did it? And where’s the missing artwork?
You’ll love this true crime twist at the end of a packed episode.

🔥 Don’t Miss This One

This is one of our most dynamic episodes yet—a mix of global politics, cultural battles, and history that’s stranger than fiction.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:07):
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
Yeah we are big fans of that.
Okay, just a crazy last I mean24 hours alone has been insane
with what's happened.

Speaker 1 (00:30):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (00:30):
So we have a lot to get into with this show today.

Speaker 1 (00:33):
Yes, we will get into the U?
S strike on Iran.
We'll dive into all thosedetails and what to expect and
what's headed our way.
What could be the response fromthe Iranians?
What kind of political responseare we seeing in all of this?
Some of it predictable and someof it not necessarily
predictable.
We'll get into details on allof that.
But after we're done talkingabout that, in our next segment

(00:53):
we have a special guest, soPeyton McNabb.
Many of you saw the video withPeyton.
She's a high school volleyballplayer.
You know your common kid jumpsinto high school volleyball,
loves to play, and all of asudden she ends up in a game
with a transgender player whospikes the ball off her face and
injures her in a significantway.
I mean it was unbelievablevideo.

(01:14):
You saw it all over the place.
It was incredibly difficult.
She's suffered lasting injurybecause of it and she was sort
of thrust into this role now ofsomeone who is now pushing for
women's spaces and, of course,women-only sports, especially in
high school, and so we wantedto talk to her.
She's in town on Monday for anevent in Santa Fe so we thought

(01:36):
we'd catch her early.
She's going to come down, sithere in studio with us.
Our next segment.
We're going to talk about howshe ended up in this spot and
how sort of sometimes you getselected in some of these things
to stand up.
And she's done it Right.
And it didn't just stop withwhat happened on the court.
There's another incident, too,that we want you to hear about
as well, but she's going to bepart of a huge event in Santa Fe

(01:57):
on Monday.
We want to push that, let youknow that it's going to be going
on, and we'll have Peytonsitting right here in studio
with us in just a few minutesafter we finish talking about
what happened in Iran.
And then you have a veryspecial deal We've got a special
storm to show you, by the way,which is crazy Right and then
you and Ella go and visit amuseum that was the site of the

(02:18):
crime of the century.

Speaker 2 (02:19):
Well, it was the world's largest art heist that's
unsolved to this day.
It's a museum in Boston.
Ella and I went to visit it,took some pictures.
I can't wait to tell you guysall about it, as well as a
documentary that.
If you don't, if you've notheard about it, please stick
around.
We're going to end the showwith that.
I think you'll find itfascinating.

Speaker 8 (02:35):
So anyway, let's get right to it because obviously
the strikes in Iran.

Speaker 2 (02:39):
There is really nothing that is I mean that's
any thing, that is I mean that'sany, that's all that anybody's
talking about this morning.

Speaker 1 (02:48):
Oh it's, it is changing the face of the Middle
East.
There's no question this hasbeen something that's been long
in the making.
Iran has been an enemy of theUnited States and a sworn enemy
of the United States from theirperspective for the better part
of 40 plus years.
And so what happened yesterdayabout 5 PM Eastern time, was we
saw seven B-2 bombers fly overto Iran and drop.
What you're looking at righthere.
That's the GBU-57.

(03:09):
That is the largestbunker-busting bomb on the
planet, which can go down about200 to 300 feet and explode.
This thing is a 30,000-poundbomb.
Now what you're looking at hereis the B-2, which can carry two
of those.
By the way, the B-2 has massivepayload capabilities, but it
shows you how big those bombsare it can only carry two.

(03:30):
So what we saw here was themilitary in the United States
get all set and then they sentthese things out of an Air Force
base in the United States in Ithink it's Missouri, I believe
and flew all the way afterrefueling to Iran, goes in under
the cover of darkness and blowsaway three different nuclear

(03:51):
facilities there.
Now, as far as the map goes ofwhat was hit and what was not
targeted, well, the only thingthat was targeted were these
three facilities in Iran, andagain they're Fordow, which
you've heard plenty about,natanz and Isfahan right, these
three different facilities wereall hit to varying degrees.

(04:11):
I think Fordow has probably hitthe hardest, with at least six
bunker buster bombs there.
So, and and don't totally knowexactly how it all went down as
far as the damage goes at thispoint they're still having to
figure that out becausebasically what they did is they
shot these things down achuteute, basically that led
down into the underground bunkerwhich is below a mountain in
Fordow especially.
Okay, so we don't know exactlyhow that's all going to play out

(04:33):
yet, but just to give you anidea, another little map here to
give you an idea of whathappens at some of these places.
Okay, so this is what we think.
Now you can't be totally surebecause the Iranians aren't
exactly handing you a list ofhey, here's what each of these
facilities does and here's whatyou can destroy If you'd like to
blow them up.
But, for doubt, uraniumenrichment for the most part
there Natanz is also a uraniumenrichment, at least they

(04:55):
believe.
In Isfahan is uraniumconversion, okay, and it's
believed that they had uraniumenough to make about nine to 10
bombs or they were closing in onit.
They had enrichment rates of 60plus percent getting from 60 to
90, where you have to get for aweapon thought to be fairly
easy to do.
So this was one of those thingswhere the Israelis said we got
to get going on this.
The United States has knownwe've had to get going on this.

(05:17):
Trump has said for 15 yearsthat he is not going to let Iran
get a nuclear weapon, and sothis was sort of the culmination
of that, and it's veryinteresting to hear what the
Joint Chiefs are saying about it.

Speaker 2 (05:29):
Right, so let's just take a listen to this.
This is the Joint Chief General, dan Cain.
He's explaining kind of whathappened on this mission, in
particular how it all went downand some of the details that you
may not know about as of rightnow.

Speaker 1 (05:40):
Just one quick thing.
It's a fairly long description,so we may jump in and out of
this a little bit to listen tohim, but he does a really good
job of explaining how they didthis and how you know we talked
about before this all went down.
The United States was the onlycountry that could do this.
Ok, israel has a lot of weaponsthat we've provided them, and
they're incredibly proficient attheir own defense, no question
about that.
But you can't do these sorts ofthings without what we have,

(06:04):
and this is what we do best, andthis is what the chairman of
the Joint Chiefs is talkingabout.

Speaker 3 (06:08):
Friday into Saturday morning, a large B-2 strike
package comprised of bomberslaunched from the continental
United States as part of a planto maintain tactical surprise.
Part of the package proceededto the west and into the Pacific
as a decoy, a deception effortknown only to an extremely small

(06:29):
number of planners and keyleaders here in Washington and
in Tampa.
The main strike package,comprised of seven B-2 Spirit
bombers, each with two crewmembers, proceeded quietly to
the east with minimalcommunications.

Speaker 1 (06:44):
Okay, hold on one sec right there.
So what we did was we sent abunch of B-2s out west over the
Pacific.
They weren't really doinganything, they just sent them
out there, right.
And then another package, theseven B-2s that would actually
strike Iran.
They went to the east and werelike shh and they just keep on
going.
So again, some of this stuffcrazy.
But they want to go and createthis sort of sense of mystery.

(07:08):
And it was very quiet.
That's one of the things aboutall of this.
There were no leaks.
No one had any idea, and that'sgoing to matter with what we
talk about.

Speaker 2 (07:15):
Very little people actually knew that this was
taking place to start with, forthe whole reason that it needed
to be a secret, so we couldactually get away.
You know, get this done.

Speaker 1 (07:23):
Yeah, okay, let's go ahead and keep listening.

Speaker 3 (07:26):
The 18-hour flight into the target area, the
aircraft completed multiplein-flight refuelings.
Once over land, the B-2s linkedup with escort and support
aircraft in a complex, tightlytimed maneuver requiring exact
synchronization across multipleplatforms in a narrow piece of

(07:47):
airspace, all done with minimalcommunications.
This type of integration isexactly what our joint force
does better than anyone else inthe world.
At approximately 5 pm EasternStandard Time last night, and
just prior to the strike packageentering Iran, a US submarine

(08:09):
in the Central Command Area ofResponsibility launched more
than two dozen Tomahawk landattack cruise missiles against
key surface infrastructuretargets at Esfahan.
As the Operation MidnightHammer strike package entered
Iranian airspace, the USemployed several deception
tactics, including decoys, asthe fourth and fifth generation

(08:34):
aircraft pushed out in front ofthe strike package at high
altitude and high speed,sweeping in front of the package
for enemy fighters andsurface-to-air missile threats.
So that's fascinating right.

Speaker 1 (08:47):
So we literally sent some fighters out ahead to be
like hey, we're here, we're here, we're here just to see what
they had.

Speaker 2 (08:53):
Right.

Speaker 1 (08:53):
Right, just to see if , okay, all of a sudden, we
could get some surface-to-airmissiles that lock on to our
fighters.
So then we'll know, okay, theB-2s could be facing this, could
be facing that Nothing.

Speaker 2 (09:03):
Right, right.
And how brave are thosesoldiers, those pilots, to be
the ones to do that.
Yeah, I mean just superimpressive to be part of this
organization and there's so muchthat goes into these things,
right?

Speaker 1 (09:14):
So they send the cruise missiles in.
I think they do that to softenup the target, to make sure
there's.
You know that I assume theywere concerned with they may
have some defense capabilitieson the ground there at Isfahan
so that they want to make surethose were taken out before
these guys went flying in againtoo.

Speaker 3 (09:31):
So amazing stuff as they keep going here.
The strike package wassupported by US Strategic
Command, US TransportationCommand, US Cyber Command, US
Space Command, US Space Forceand US European Command.
As the strike packageapproached Fordow and Natanz,

(09:55):
the US protection packageemployed high-speed suppression
weapons to ensure safe passageof the strike package, with
fighter assets employingpreemptive suppressing fires
against any potential Iraniansurface-to-air threats.
We are currently unaware of anyshots fired at the US strike
package on the way in.
Okay, yeah, that's great.

Speaker 1 (10:16):
That's amazing stuff, right, that is amazing, yeah,
well planned.

Speaker 2 (10:19):
This whole program was well planned and you know I
think we kind of, you know wedon't forget, but I just think
it's something that we need tomake sure that we're hitting on.
Is Trump gave warnings to Iran?
What three weeks ago?
Yeah, oh, 60 days ago 60 daysago with a, with a, and then I'm
sure he reiterated it becauseit's not like people haven't
been talking about this atnauseam.
I mean, if you want to look atour last episode, we went into

(10:40):
great detail on what the planwould be, with graphics and
videos and everything of these,of these secret bombers, self
bombers, are going to drop these.
So yeah.

Speaker 1 (10:50):
Well, and I think the interesting thing is, he says
and this is actually a tributeto the Israelis as well which is
nothing, nothing was shot at,nothing happened.
So we had the maximum amount ofprotection for these B2s as
they went in right, the besttechnology possible softening
everything up set to go and theydon't hear a thing.
Now we won't go on and keeplistening to this, but basically

(11:11):
what the chairman says isnothing.
Nothing on the way in, shot atthem, nothing on the way out,
shot at them.
They didn't face a singlebullet nothing, not a rocket,
not a bullet, not anything.
So that gets back to what theIsraelis had done, had having
complete superiority in airspaceover Iran.
And to show you where thiswhole thing has gone since

(11:34):
October 7th 2023.
I mean, just think about thisfor a second.
When Hamas decided we're goingto go in there and do this,
we're going to go slaughter1,200 innocent Israelis, we're
going to go in and try to changethe face of Israeli-Hamas
relations and Hezbollah as well,they decided we're going to go

(11:55):
after Israel.
Since that time, hamas is gone,basically has been destroyed.
Hezbollah has been destroyed.
Syria has fallen.
Number one adversary, well, oneof the big adversaries of the
United States, but a much biggerfriend to Iran.
They're gone.
Now Iran has no control oftheir own airspace, does not

(12:18):
have a nuclear program anymoreand they're done, as far as you
know, not being the sort ofbully on the block.
Amazing the law of unintendedconsequences with the one
decision by Hamas.
And that day you saw people inQatar, especially some of these
guys who ran Hamas, who live invery fancy homes in Qatar.
Didn't last that long.

(12:40):
They were all celebrating andeverything else in their hotel
rooms and their fancy places andall of a sudden they're all
gone.
By the way, most of the Iranianleadership for their military
is gone.
The Ayatollah's life is verymuch in danger because they went
out there and did this and itgave the United States an

(13:00):
opening to to go after a countrythat had done everything they
could over the past 40 years tokill as many Americans as they
could.
Remember you had the Iranians goin and fly and go after the
Saudi Arabians oil fields for nogood reason.
No good reason.
They propped up everything inYemen with the Houthis.
I mean, these guys are theworst of the worst and for

(13:23):
anyone to defend going afterthem and saying it's a bad idea
is it's craziness, especiallywhen we don't have boots on the
ground.
We're not going to have bootson the ground.
That's not what this is, butthis is going to be very
interesting to see because youhave a very, very educated and,
in many cases, a great countryin Iran as far as its people go,
so it's going to be fascinatingto see what they end up doing

(13:44):
with this.

Speaker 2 (13:45):
Right?
Well, let's get some of thereaction to this this morning,
because first, there's somesigns here in Tel Aviv.
Just check this out.
I mean, obviously it says hereif you're just listening to us,
it's a big, huge signs to saythank you, mr President, and
it's pictures of Trump on bigside buildings, the sides of
buildings.

Speaker 1 (14:01):
And, by the way, Tel Aviv, the sides of buildings and
, by the way, Tel Aviv not known, as you know, say conservative,
Republican.
Central Tel Aviv is a very itcan be a very progressive city
actually within within Israel.
But obviously the Israelis areall pretty much on one page on
this one.
There's not a whole lot ofdeviation.

Speaker 2 (14:17):
Right.
I'm not sure how many peoplethought that giving letting the
Iranians have nuclear power wasa great idea, except Senator
Adam Schiff.
I mean, apparently we need tobe able to get permission to do
these secret attacks fromCongress, according to Senator
Adam Schiff.
So let's take a listen to him.

Speaker 10 (14:35):
He's on CNN here talking about this atrocity of
Trump not seeking approval firstfor the secret attack of Trump
not seeking approval first forthe secret attack, Failure to
brief Democratic lawmakers, themaking this just another
partisan exercise by theadministration when it comes to
something as serious as thedecision to potentially engage

(14:57):
in warfare with another nation.
It means that you're not goingto have the whole country bought
into this, which is a realproblem.
That you're not going to havethe whole country bought into
this, which is a real problem.
If everything goes well, thenmaybe it works out fine in the
sense of not being an issue thattears apart the American people
.
But if things don't go well, ifIran retaliates, if we get in

(15:18):
an escalating war with Iran andyou don't have the country
bought in because the presidentdidn't seek the approval of
Congress, because the presidentdidn't seek the approval of
Congress, because he didn't makethe case to the American people
, because he didn't even informone of the parties in Congress,
that's when you have a realproblem engaging in warfare on a
partisan basis.
So a lot of risks here for thecountry, which, you know, is the

(15:43):
reason why you come to Congressin the first place.
It's the reason why ourConstitution says Congress has
the power to declare war, notthe president.

Speaker 1 (15:51):
OK, a couple of quick things before you get to your
thing.
This was incredibly close tothe vest.
Do you think if President Trumphad briefed members of Congress
that this thing would havestayed close to the vest?
You're talking about the safetyof American pilots and American
personnel, so I think thereason it was as quiet as it was
is because it was kept close tothe vest, and it has to be.

Speaker 2 (16:14):
Right.

Speaker 1 (16:14):
That's President Trump's number one obligation
Keep our troops safe as you'redoing this.
Right, if you're going to dothese sorts of things, you don't
go to all these lawmakers,especially lawmakers on the
other side of the aisle, whowould have no problem sabotaging
this and saying, hey, this isgoing on, you know, for their
own reasons.
Now, many would not, probably,but some probably would.

Speaker 2 (16:35):
Well and calling it a declaration of war.
This was not a declaration ofwar against Iran, right?
So the fact of the matter is Ipulled.
I just did a quick search onhow many presidents in the US
that I could even find and saylike since the 1940s, that have
gone and done attacks withoutseeking approval from Congress
because they have executivepower.

Speaker 1 (16:53):
There's obviously no one on the list.
Trump's the first one?
No, actually it's a thick,thick list what?

Speaker 2 (16:58):
Take a look at this little graphic.

Speaker 9 (16:59):
I'm pretty proud of this little graphic I put
together here for everybody.

Speaker 2 (17:02):
Presidents who attacked without Congress's
approval okay, based on whatthey knew they needed to do.
If you want to zoom in a littlebit, Ella, I won't go through
all of these.
But honestly, from Harry Trumanin 1945, you have Eisenhower
doing it.
Jfk with the Bay of Pigs Guesswhat?
He didn't get Congress'sapproval to go after Bay of Pigs
.
You have Nixon, who had to dosecret bombings in Cambodia.

(17:24):
Gerald Ford you had RonaldReagan, who had to do it in
Libya.
You have Bill Clinton in 2009.
In his tenure, he went afterLibya, Syria, Pakistan, Yemen
and Somalia with drones andattacks.

Speaker 1 (17:36):
Speaking of Captain Drone.

Speaker 2 (17:38):
Yeah, Captain Drone did not sink.

Speaker 1 (17:40):
Yeah, I'm sorry.
Yeah, he didn't Sorry, I waswaiting for your next one.
Oh yeah, captain.

Speaker 2 (17:44):
Drone.
Yeah, I'm sorry.
Yeah, he didn't.
Sorry, I was waiting for yournext one.
Oh yeah, oh, captain, barackObama also here goes after
airstrikes with Syria, iraq andYemen, again without seeking
approval from Congress, andfinally, donald Trump did this
already in his earlier years ofbeing president against Syria,
yemen, somalia and Iraq.
The list goes on and on.
This was actually really thick.
I'm just hitting some real quickones that it is pretty

(18:07):
customary for presidents, undertheir executive power and the
fact that they're in leadershipand they're working with
generals and our military andthey know what they need to do,
they're not going out there andsaying excuse me, guys, could
you make sure that this is allyou know?
Okay, because it's not adeclaration of war?
By the way, none of these weredeclarations of war.
They were attacks, which isexactly what just took place.

(18:29):
The thing that's frustrating isyou wake up on Twitter or X and
you start seeing our stateleaders going after saying the
exact same thing that Schiffjust said.
That is just like well, theydidn't seek our approval, they
didn't come to Congress and thisis an overreach of our US
Constitution.
And I feel like saying have youread the US Constitution and do
you know the difference betweena declaration of war and just
hey, we have an attack, we needto take these guys out.

(18:50):
This is dangerous and stupid,and so this is just a it's just
not.

Speaker 1 (18:54):
It doesn't make any sense, it's just not the right
way to go about this.
Again, our guy will say itagain.
I don't have his quote today,but our guy Fetterman comes out
and says no-transcript for Obama.

(19:30):
He's one of these guys whooftentimes is able to kind of,
in a little more clear eyedsense, be like all right, what
does my party need to do to makesure that you're not hurting
yourself with everything you sayabout Trump?
It just doesn't make any sense.
And I think he did somethinginteresting.
This was just before the attacks, but he said something that I
think would be illustrative ofsomething that could be very

(19:51):
helpful for especially the outof power party.
When the president makes theright move, don't get in there
and find a way to try tocriticize them.
Just say it was the right thingto do.
This is the kind of stuff weneed to do.
It kind of creates this sensewhere people are like, yeah,
maybe they're of differingparties, but at least they
understand how things areworking.
You know, but in this politicalworld we live in doesn't always

(20:12):
work that way.

Speaker 9 (20:14):
But here's Van Jones In some room.
I was also in the Holy Landvery recently.
I think progressivesunderestimate how dangerous Iran
is.
Iran is not a normal country.
Normal countries don't blindwomen because they showed some
hair.
They don't empower little gangsand proxies to surround a

(20:37):
country and fire rockets andrape people.
So, Iran, the two things areclear the what they cannot have
a bomb and the why because theysay death to America, death to
Israel and death to all the Jews.
One of those should offend you.
If you're a progressive, Atleast one should offend you.
And so the question, though, isthe who and the how.

(20:58):
Is Israel going to take outthis nuclear capacity by
dropping people there who blowit up, or is America going to
take it out by dropping a bombthat blows it up?
But the what and the why areclear, and I think progressives
should get on board with that.
We cannot have a nuclear-armedIran.
I was in the region, you werein the region.
This is a very dangerous power.

Speaker 1 (21:20):
Okay, makes sense, right, makes sense, right, makes
sense.
But but then there are peopleon the right who who are losing
it.
You saw Tucker Carlson's beenout there going crazy over this
right.
Say no, no, no.
Why are we doing this?
Why are we doing this when youhave one of the most dangerous
nations in the world who'strying to to to really is a
massive danger to the UnitedStates.
It is.

(21:40):
So I don't know what Tucker'sthinking, but one of the other
people who's on this side, it'scalled the woke right.
Now it's basically the wokeright, the woke left, sort of
emerging right.
And so now you have CandaceOwens, who not a fan of Candace
Owens, okay At all, but but thissort of thing.
What you have to realize is now, in the independent media age,
what you have is people that aregoing to stoke any outrage

(22:02):
machine they can to wringaudience out of it.
Okay, and that's what she'sdoing here.
Listen to what she says to aquestion about from apparently a
U S military member who's goingto get ready to walk away
because of what's happened withIran.
Like she's going out anddefending keeping Iran as a
nuclear, allowing Iran to becomea nuclear power.

(22:24):
This is crazy from the farright.

Speaker 6 (22:28):
LG19 writes.
Serious question Will there bejobs or community military
members can join when I get adishonorable discharge for not
contributing to delete people ormy body for the interest of a
certain foreign nation benefit?
I love this question.
I do believe that if war inIran is on the agenda and that
appears so get dishonorablydischarged.
Who cares?
Who cares?

(22:48):
Why should you go die in aforeign land?
You now have the benefit of2020.
You can see, think about thosemen and those women who died
because they were pitched thatthey were serving their country
because there were weapons ofmass destruction.
Right, they were serving theircountry because the Taliban,
they were serving their country,whatever.
And these people gave up theirlives.

(23:09):
And ask yourselves for what?
And the answer to that questionis for the elites.
You're like toy soldiers and Iwould have said a few weeks ago
that Trump would never do thatto you, he would never just
throw you into an Israeli war.
But right now our planes areflying in the sky and things are

(23:29):
going nuclear.
So I don't have that confidenceanymore and I'm comfortable
with people being dishonorablydischarged because I'm sure you
are comfortable because itdoesn't affect you.

Speaker 2 (23:40):
Right and again, we're not going into war with
Iran.
I mean so we've got to stopstoking that fire.

Speaker 1 (23:46):
And also she's a raging anti-Semite, so that's
just a fact about who she is, Imean, and it is, it is.
So, again, this is happeningfrom different angles, right?
That's the point we're makingon this is that you know, again,
I think you need to look atpeople like this and they are
trying to stoke an audience andthey're doing anything they can
for that and dishonorablydischarged, just irresponsible,

(24:11):
and certain people just revealthemselves to be fools, and she
has absolutely done that andagain we've not heard Trump say
hey, we're going to sendsoldiers in.
Nobody's saying that it's astraw man argument Nobody's
saying that it's so bad.

Speaker 2 (24:21):
Well, let's take a look at Harry Enten's most
recent polls from CNN, reallyshowing that Trump has deep
support for these particularstrikes.

Speaker 7 (24:35):
Let's take a look and listen to what he said.
Picture overall.
But on this particular questionand overall, I feel like
there's more support for DonaldTrump's positions than is
comically acknowledged OpposeIran getting a nuclear weapon.
I mean, look at this Seventynine percent of adults agree on
that.
They agree with Donald TrumpIran cannot get a nuclear weapon
.
Eighty three percent ofRepublicans, seventy nine
percent of independents, seventynine percent of Democrats.
When you get seventy ninepercent of independents, 79
percent of Democrats, when youget 79 percent of Democrats and
83 percent of Republicansagreeing on anything, you know
that that position is the veryclear majority in this country.

(24:58):
And so the American public iswith Donald Trump.
They definitely oppose Irangetting nuclear weapons.

Speaker 1 (25:03):
Ok, so interesting stuff in those numbers, actually
from before the strike.
So if this strike turns out tobe effective, I think those
numbers will continue to go up.
Trump's in good stead on thiswith his own party and, I think,
with with independence andDemocrats as a whole on this
thing.
If it doesn't expand and turninto a nightmare, the question,
though, will become how doesIran respond?

Speaker 2 (25:24):
Right and and, and I think that this is very nerve
wracking a little bit because wedo have to kind of wait and see
, and obviously I did read atweet last and they said well,
we need to be praying for safety.
If you're in a big city, youneed to have your you know, a
head on a swivel, so to speak.
I think just there absolutelycould be secret cells in the in
the United States.
You know that really areseeking retaliation.

(25:46):
It's something we're going tohave to keep walking and
watching and hoping that thatdoesn't happen.

Speaker 1 (25:55):
There's that?
Yeah, absolutely.
So it'll be very interesting towatch how all that plays out.
And then also, the Iranianshave come out today, on Sunday,
and said they're going to shutdown the Strait of Hormuz.
Okay, so why does that matter?
What does the Strait of Hormuzmean?
Well, the Strait of Hormuz isbasically a choke point that
Iran has some control over.
Remember, a lot of the oil thatcomes out of the middle East 26%
of it goes through the Straitof Hormuz, and so we'll just

(26:17):
show you a quick little map hereand you can get a little idea
of what this is about.
So we'll just kind of focus inhere, ella and you can see.
So you got the United ArabEmirates and you have Iran on
either side of this, yemen onthe side of this as well.
So you can see that's a prettytight point, right.
And so Iran has said we'regoing to block this off and not
let oil out of here.

(26:38):
Okay, and in fact, if you putthings into motion here, we got
a little video which is kind ofinteresting.
So what you'll see here isyou'll see the activity, tanker
activity through the Strait ofHormuz, so you can see the
drainage out into the Strait ofHormuz, and you'll see how tight
it gets here, how tight thatarea is, and we're going to

(26:58):
pivot You'll see the camerapivot here into the Strait of
Hormuz, right there.
You see how tight.
That is right.
And so that's where they'retalking about, because they have
some measure of control aboutwhat goes through there.
Okay, and so we'll see.
Now the question would be wouldthey do that?
Well, troll about what goesthrough there?
Okay, and so we'll see.
Now the question would be wouldthey do that?
Well, it would tank the worldoil market.
So, with skyrocket oil, guesswho gets most of their oil

(27:21):
through the state of Hormuz?
China, right, and China is thenumber one buyer of Iranian oil.
So now the Iranians say, well,we'll just, we'll let the
Chinese oil through, but wewon't let anybody else.
So if you think the UnitedStates, or the Gulf partners of
the United States in the MiddleEast are going to be like, oh
sure, you guys go ahead and justshut things down, I don't think
they're going to allow that.
But Secretary of State MarcoRubio did comment on what he
thinks the probability would beif they were to go ahead and try

(27:45):
to shut down the Strait ofHormuz.

Speaker 8 (27:47):
Do you expect Iran to move to close the Strait of
Hormuz to try to disrupt oiltransportation across the world?
Well, I encourage the Chinesegovernment in Beijing to call
them about that, because theyheavily depend on the Straits of
Hormuz for their oil.
If they do that, it will beanother terrible mistake.
It's economic suicide for themif they do it, and we retain

(28:09):
options to deal with that.
But other countries should belooking at that as well.
It would hurt other countries'economies a lot worse than ours.
It would be, I think, a massiveescalation.
That would merit a response notjust by us but from others.
So, look, they're going to saywhat they need to say.
You know these are the thingsthat need to happen for their
own internal politics and soforth, but in the end, we're

(28:29):
going to judge them by theactions that they take moving
forward, we had three objectives.
We struck those threeobjectives with decisive force,
and that was the point of thismission, and that's what we
achieve.
What happens next will dependon what they do.
They want to negotiate.
We're ready to negotiate.
They want to get cute and dothings that are dangerous.
We have responses availablethat are devastating, ok.

Speaker 2 (28:53):
Yeah and again.
I wanted to show this clip ofMarco Rubio really clarifying
we're not at war with Iran.

Speaker 9 (29:02):
So let's play this one for you.

Speaker 8 (29:07):
Are we now at war with Iran?
No, we're not.
This is not a war against Iran.
This is.
This is very simple.
You know, 67 days ago, thepresident of the United States
sent the Iranians a letter andit said you're not going to have
nuclear weapons, you're notgoing to have a militarized
nuclear program.
Let's negotiate.
I want to do thisdiplomatically.
I want to do this peacefully.
They tried to play them alongthe way they've played every
American president for the last35 years.

(29:27):
And you know, the presidenttold them if we don't get a deal
which is what he wanted thenI'll have to handle it
differently.
And that's what he did lastnight.
He handled it differently, butthat was an Iranian choice.
We didn't make that choice.
They did by playing games withDonald Trump.
They made a huge mistake andPresident Trump acted last night
and I think the world today issafer and more stable than it
was 24 hours ago.

(29:48):
And a bunch of these countriesputting out statements
condemning us privately.
They all agree with us thatthis needed to be done.
They got to do what they got todo for, you know, their own
public relations purposes, butthe only people in the world
that are unhappy about whathappened in Iran last night is
the regime.

Speaker 1 (30:03):
Yeah, unbelievable.
And again that gets back to ourpoint of that law of unintended
consequences that October 7th2023 changed the Middle East
forever, but not in the way thatthe people who did the killing
thought it would Right, andMarco.

Speaker 2 (30:16):
Rubio.
I just feel like he has justbeen so on point with everything
when it comes to the MiddleEast, and when he's asked the
direct questions he just seemsto really have just a very
specific like answer foreverything.

Speaker 1 (30:27):
Well, marco's, yeah, and I also think he, you know,
spent a lot of time in theSenate.
He knows the issues very welland so when he goes on and he
went out, we didn't show this,but he didn't he won the CBS
morning show, sunday morningshow and ate Margaret Brennan
alive again.
Like he's just like a regularthing.

Speaker 2 (30:43):
Like we just put all the clips together of that
happening and show that as likea little kicker one day.
It's just not fair, right.

Speaker 1 (30:49):
Which, which, which is fine.
I think what you want is yourleaders to be able to outclass a
journalist who tries to paintthem into a corner, but I do
think it's interesting becausethe whole tenor of the middle
East has changed.
It really has, and you and Italked about this.
I don't want to give us toomuch credit, but we talked about
this about three weeks ago.
We said that the Trump wasgoing to face a choice where, if

(31:10):
he was just own peace only, guy, right, right and just I'm
going to get peace.
I'm going to get peace notwithout demonstrating power.
We said that he was going tohave to demonstrate power to get
peace, right, okay, and and sohe had a choice.
So if he was just going to bepeace alone guy with no stick
behind it, just all carrot, nostick he was going to get tested
, and he's been tested and hewent with the stick, and so

(31:34):
that's very interesting.
We talked about it about threeweeks ago.
We're talking about it inregard to the Ukraine, but now
it ends up being a much biggerissue with Iran, which nobody
saw coming.
So the question now is where dowe go from here and where do
the Iranians go from here, andvice president JD Vance laid
this out very clearly, as heoften does.

Speaker 4 (31:53):
It has been very clear that we don't want a
regime change.
We do not want to protract thisor build this out any more than
it's already been built out.
We want to end their nuclearprogram and then we want to talk
to the Iranians about along-term settlement.
Here we believe very stronglythat there are two pathways.
There's a pathway where Irancontinues to fund terrorism,

(32:14):
continues to try to build anuclear program, attacks
American troops.
That's the bad pathway for Iranand it will be met with
overwhelming force.
There's another pathway on thetable here.
There's a pathway where Iranintegrates itself into the
international community, stopsfunding terrorism and stops
trying to pursue a nuclearweapon.
This is a reset.
This is an opportunity for theIranians to take the smart path.

(32:37):
We certainly hope that theywill.

Speaker 1 (32:39):
Okay.
So really, what is interestingabout Iran that you don't see in
other countries is prior to1979, you had one of the most
progressive countries in theMiddle East and, with 92 million
people and a lot of verysuccessful people in that
populace, they could take thiscountry, especially if they were
not under the jackboot of theregime that they're under.

(33:03):
What could they become?
They could become an amazingpower in the middle east in a
very different way.
So it's going to be interestingto see if that happens.
I don't know that it it will.
The United States isn't isn'tdelusional enough to think that
we can go in there and turn Iraninto this whole new country or
revert it back to where it wasunder the Shah Right.

(33:23):
I don't.
I don't know how that happens,if it happens at all, but it's
hard not to look at that and say, boy, if you got to run back to
where they were in the mid 70s,boy, you would have a country
that would be incredibly, notonly powerful, but a country
that could bring much moreprosperity to their people.

(33:43):
It's amazing.

Speaker 2 (33:44):
We'll see.
I don't know if it'll happen.
Yeah, we'll have to see.
My money is not on that.
I don't see them changinganytime soon.
I'll say that.

Speaker 1 (33:51):
Well, if you got to get rid of the leadership, and
then you have to see who fightsit out to you know, I don't know
.
I don't know either but, thatwill be something we will
observe and not something wewill force, which is a
difference.

Speaker 2 (34:00):
Okay, so we're going to come back after a quick break
with Peyton McNabb.
She has quite a story.
She'll be right back.

Speaker 11 (34:11):
You're listening to the no Doubt About it podcast.
Back to your hosts, Christy andMark Ronchetti.

Speaker 2 (34:19):
Well, we are back and we are so excited that we have
Peyton McNabb.
She has traveled from Houstonvia North Carolina, as my
understanding right, to be herein Santa Fe for a Title IX
anniversary event happeningtomorrow in Santa Fe.
But we're going to get into allthose details, but first we are
super interested in actually,you know, introducing you to our

(34:40):
audience.
We did talk about you a coupleof years ago when, unfortunately
, you took a pretty brutal hiton a volleyball court when you
were playing against abiological male who was playing
on a women's volleyball team.
And you're just in high school,you're just playing in everyday
day of high school volleyballand it changed the course of

(35:02):
your life, I would say, at leastthe last three years or so.
Is that fair to say?
Oh, absolutely yeah.
Well, why don't you tell us alittle bit first, before we get
into everything, a little bitabout yourself, where you live,
introduce yourself to ouraudience, and then we'll kind of
jump in a little bit.

Speaker 5 (35:15):
Yeah, so I am from Murphy, north Carolina.
I've lived there my whole lifeand I come from a really small
town, very family-orientedcommunity and school and all of
the above.
So I'm very thankful to havethat foundation and absolutely
love it.
But I have a big family and youknow this stuff was never.

(35:39):
I never thought I would bedoing this ever.

Speaker 1 (35:42):
Yeah, so it is crazy, right?
So let's talk about that.
You play volleyball, right?
You just so was it your senioryear?

Speaker 5 (35:49):
It was yes Okay your senior year.

Speaker 1 (35:50):
You guys get ready to play and you're taking on a
team that has a biological malewho says I identify as female,
I'm going to play on thisvolleyball team, is that right?
Yes, okay, so you get into thegame.
Is it known to you guys at thetime?
Like watch out for number sixor whoever Like look out, like
tell me how that went leading upto this?

Speaker 5 (36:10):
Yeah, so I was a three-sport athlete.
I played three sports my wholelife, but with volleyball I'd
been playing against this guysince my freshman year.
Okay, because it was legal.
It became legal in NorthCarolina my freshman year in
2019.
So there was really nothing wecould do about it, but we did
have to practice differently inorder just to prepare for him,

(36:32):
and we weren't the only schoolthat had to do that.
Other schools had to practicedifferently literally just to
just to receive his ball.
They weren't like an all-starteam or anything, they just had
an all-star player.

Speaker 1 (36:44):
So would they like center the whole offense around
him.

Speaker 5 (36:47):
Yes, yeah.

Speaker 1 (36:48):
Oh geez.

Speaker 5 (36:49):
They wouldn't have won if they didn't.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, oh geez.

Speaker 1 (36:50):
They wouldn't have won if they didn't.
Yeah, yeah.
And were they good because ofit?

Speaker 2 (36:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (36:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (36:54):
Well, can we show that video for those folks who
have not seen this video yet.
It's pretty famous.
But if you haven't seen it,take a look at this video when
Peyton just couldn't evenprepare, like I mean, that's
just I don't know how youprepare for that.
Quite frankly, I I'm not sure.

Speaker 5 (37:10):
Yeah, it was pretty quick.

Speaker 1 (37:11):
Yeah, no doubt.

Speaker 2 (37:13):
And it takes you out.
I mean that you went, you wentdown so fast.
So tell me a little bit aboutyou had a concussion.
Tell us a little bit about yourinjuries that you, that you had
to deal with.

Speaker 5 (37:22):
Yeah, so with yeah.
So when I got hit, um, I wentunconscious for like 30 seconds
in a fencing position, which ishow your body reacts to brain
injury, and then, um, they, assoon as I came to they, rushed
me off the court.
I ended up going to my primarydoctor as soon as I could,
because in North Carolina, likethe, the concussion protocol is

(37:43):
just to wait and try to rest andsleep and wear sunglasses and
be in the dark as much as youcan see if it gets worse before
you go to the doctor.
So that's exactly what we did.
It kept continuing to get worse.
We went to the doctor.
She immediately refers me to aneurologist where they explained
that I have a concussion,permanent whiplash and a small
brain bleed.

(38:04):
So there was a lot of thingsthat came through that.
I had vision problems, balanceissues, cognitive issues.
I had to get extra help inschool, which has never been a
problem.
I was always top of my class,had to be good, because my dad
was my principal.

Speaker 1 (38:20):
Keep it between the lines.
We're not messing around.
I get it.

Speaker 5 (38:23):
But anyway, that was never a problem.
And then it was, and this wasmy senior year and I had been
working my whole life for thisand I had the dreams of playing
collegiate softball and that wasall taken away because of this
game.
So I was never able to performthe way I had in the past and I
couldn't drive for a few months,like there was just so much.

(38:45):
That came through it and I'mstill dealing with it today.
Of course I've been blessedenough to heal a lot since then,
but it's still something thatI'm having.
It's almost been three yearsand I'm still having to deal
with it.

Speaker 2 (38:57):
Okay, well, it clearly put you in kind of the
news headlines.
It puts you pretty much in aheadline and now you travel the
country and you speak, somethingyou said you weren't planning
to do.
This was not like your life.
Your goal was to go to collegeand play softball.
Right, that's probably as faras you've gotten, yeah.
So tell us about what hastranspired now, like what's your

(39:18):
life like now?
You're traveling, you'respeaking.
Tell us a little bit.
How did that get started?

Speaker 5 (39:23):
Yeah, I okay.
So public speaking was never mystrong suit.
That was the only class I everfailed was public speaking.
I teach high school publicspeaking.

Speaker 2 (39:32):
You should have come to my class.
I would have had you wellprepared.
You're doing fine.

Speaker 5 (39:35):
You're doing fine Because I couldn't, like I would
cry if I had to talk in frontof my class of 20 people, so it
was definitely out of my comfortzone for sure.
But I spoke up for the firsttime at the North Carolina
General Assembly right after Iturned 18.
This all happened when I was 17.
My parents said I can waituntil I'm 18 and then make that
decision on if I want to sayanything or not, and it was a

(39:58):
hard decision to make.
But well, not, it was just Idon't know.
It was just like a reallycomplicated process.
I would have never thought itwould go this far.
But I drove out to Raleigh and Ispoke for this bill they were
trying to pass, and then it alljust exploded.
From there I started workingwith independent women, which
they've just been absolutelyamazing from the beginning, just

(40:19):
championing this issue andreally elevating these stories
and getting them out there foreveryone to see.
So that's exactly what happenedwith me, and it's been such an
honor to be able to travel thecountry and speak up for these
girls and all over, becauseevery girl in every state
deserves this, deserves fairnessand safety, and it's so sad

(40:43):
that their elected officialsdon't see that.

Speaker 1 (40:46):
It is amazing to see.
But there's another side ofthis too, which is when you get
involved in one of thesepolitical issues and I know you
know this now it's one of thethings, unfortunately, we had to
learn as a family too, thatonce you step into this, it's
not all good, right, it's notall friendly.
First of all, what kind ofpushback have you gotten, and
how do you process that to belike you know what?

(41:06):
Yeah, I'm getting pushback, butI'm doing the right thing.

Speaker 5 (41:10):
That's exactly how I get through it.
At the end of the day, I knowwhat I'm doing is on the right
side of history and what I'mfighting for is the right thing.
So any pushback I do get, Iusually just don't care.
But also the support has justbeen overwhelmingly more than
the pushback and I think that'sbeen the general theme as a

(41:32):
whole.

Speaker 2 (41:33):
Can I ask?
I mean, we had Riley Gaines onthe show too, and so I'm curious
what is your take?
Because she's gotten into this.
You know, I don't know if yousaw this Twitter fight she got
into with Simone Biles on, maybeSimone saying hey, why don't
you, why don't you?
You're?

Speaker 1 (41:50):
great, you're great.
Sorry, guys, I'm doing a littleproducing on the fly, but it's
a better angle for a camera.
Sorry, keep going.
Okay, okay, as you were.

Speaker 2 (41:57):
Why Simone Biles was basically telling Riley Gaines,
hey, why don't you go create asport for transgender athletes?
And Riley came back and saidthat's not my job, it's not the
women's job to do that.
What is your take Like?
Do you think that transstudents should be in their own
classification?
Do you think what would if?
In a perfect scenario, whatwould you think the solution

(42:17):
should be to something like this?

Speaker 5 (42:19):
Yeah, I think it's really simple.
I mean what Riley said it's notthe women's job to just to
figure it out for them.
That's their problem and itshouldn't be put on the women,
psychologically and physically,for them to deal with just
because this guy wants to be awoman.
So they can have their owncategory.
That's what we've been sayingfrom the beginning.

(42:40):
Like no one has opposed to that.
But you know, the biggestsolution would be for everyone
just to play in the category inwhich they were born, to be into
.
So I think that's just like thecommon sense answer.
But I don't know why.
But it is a complicated issueand I think Raleigh shut that
down very well with Simone Biles.

(43:02):
This is an athlete, anall-American amazing athlete,
who's going to go down inhistory for everything she's
accomplished.
But at the end of the day, noone would know who Simone Biles
was if she was competing againsta man.

Speaker 2 (43:16):
Yeah, it's true, it's true.

Speaker 1 (43:18):
Yeah, and you mentioned leaders, and not
always leaders protecting women.
When we look at the numbers andwe've got the numbers here,
when you look at the numbersleaders protecting women.
When we look at the numbers andwe've got the numbers here when
you look at the numbers,they're massive.
Even among Democrats, amongRepublicans, 94% say women's
sports should be for women right, and 67% of Democrats say that.
Why do we have leaders, even inthe state of North Carolina,

(43:41):
who don't seem to be able tograsp that?
Have you been able to find somesort of through line here, or
are you seeing progress?
Are they waking up to it?

Speaker 5 (43:49):
I think I don't.
I really don't know, becauseyou know we've been saying this.
80% of the country pretty muchagrees with this and it's hard
for 80% of the country to agreeon anything.
So for this to still be anissue and still be such a hot
issue with that much supportbehind it is just.
I mean, it makes zero sense andit would have to be just for

(44:11):
political reasons, becausethere's no other explanation.
I mean, people on both sidesare able to see common ground on
this, but at the end of the day, the elected officials who were
elected to protect the girlsand women in their state are
failing to do their job just tothey don't just to protect
themselves, and that's reallysad.

(44:32):
And if someone thinks like that, they shouldn't hold that
position.

Speaker 2 (44:37):
And when.
When this went down with you inhigh school, what was the
reaction from people?
Did you feel supported?
Did you not feel supported?
I mean, tell us a little bitabout the emotion that happened
around that.

Speaker 5 (44:50):
Yeah, it was really weird.
I mean, this was like a reallyweird time.
This is in 2022.
So everyone was still kind oflike afraid to talk about it and
, where I come from, like thisdoesn't happen.
So we had zero idea how to goabout it.
We were confused, everyone wasconfused and like the emotions
were just so high.
And you know, legally theyweren't doing anything wrong.

(45:14):
So there was our hands feltlike they were tied and
obviously none of us agreed withthat, but we still had to go on
with it.
We were forced to by our NorthCarolina High School Athletic
Association, our North CarolinaHigh School Athletic Association
.
And you know, after I startedsaying something, I mean my
community was so supportive ofme.
They were absolutely the best.

(45:35):
It's like such a uniquesituation where I live.
It's so small and everyoneknows each other, so like
everyone knew what happened andthey were very much on board.
Of course, some weren't,because they don't want to hurt
feelings or look like they'rebeing mean or whatever, but it's
being more mean to a lot ofthese people and act like this

(45:56):
is normal.

Speaker 2 (45:57):
And it's also not sticking up for the safety of
young women trying to playsports, absolutely.

Speaker 5 (46:02):
That's the biggest thing.

Speaker 2 (46:03):
You look at that.
I don't know if you know whathappened to the trans player, if
he went on to play in collegeor not.
You know, or what happened?

Speaker 5 (46:10):
Yeah, he actually got two full-ride scholarships to
play, but then, after I startedspeaking out, they took them
away, claiming they didn't knowthat it was a guy.

Speaker 1 (46:19):
Did this person ever apologize?

Speaker 5 (46:22):
No, yeah, no, he did text me with no remorse, but
this was right after I spoke out, just saying like basically I
was obsessed with the situationand wouldn't let it go.

Speaker 9 (46:33):
Oh gosh, Okay, but yeah, I mean, I guess I kind of
was since.

Speaker 1 (46:36):
I'm all alive, Really , yeah.
So yeah, You're like yeah.

Speaker 2 (46:39):
I am obsessed with it .
Yeah, it changed the trajectoryof your life.
I can't drive.

Speaker 1 (46:47):
So life, I can't drive.

Speaker 2 (46:47):
So yeah, yeah, so that's kind of an issue for me
so yeah, it's kind of a big dealthere and your vision and your
cognitive like, let's, let'skeep that going, okay, so this
was not the only thing that hashappened, it seems that.
So explain a little bit.
You go to college, right, youstart, you start school and then
explain what happened.
You're in a bathroom and atrans, um, transgender man I
guess is that how you refer tothat it'd be a trans woman, oh,
a trans transgender man, I guessIs that how you refer to?

Speaker 1 (47:07):
that it would be a trans woman.

Speaker 2 (47:08):
Oh, a trans woman.

Speaker 7 (47:09):
We're all mixed up, I'm all mixed up.
A guy in a dress, a guy in adress.

Speaker 3 (47:12):
Okay, okay, yeah.

Speaker 2 (47:14):
So, it comes into a bathroom and you record him.

Speaker 1 (47:16):
Yeah, what happened?
Yeah, we'll play the videofirst and then you can explain
what's going on.
So why are you in the girl'sbathroom.

Speaker 5 (47:23):
I'm a trans girl, but you're not a girl.

Speaker 3 (47:26):
Oh, we're doing one of these yeah.
Interesting.

Speaker 6 (47:30):
Never heard of this before.
I don't know what to say.
I'm sorry you feel that way.

Speaker 5 (47:33):
Yeah, I pay a lot of money to be safe in the bathroom
.

Speaker 6 (47:38):
Me too.
Excuse me, do you?

Speaker 1 (47:45):
think that's okay.
Yeah, yeah, okay.
So explain what's going on withthis guy.

Speaker 5 (47:50):
Great color on him, by the way, mustard is a great
move yeah, well, apparently hebought that dress just so girls
would give him compliments,because he wanted.
Anyway, it's just like sick.
But anyway, I go in thebathroom and I just this is like
last day of classes this is oncampus.
Yeah, okay and I'm on my publicschool campus in the, in the
dining hall bathroom wherethere's all these field trips

(48:12):
and little girls running in andout of there and family members
and everything.
And I walk in and I see thislike fully grown man in a, in a
dress, standing there and I justcouldn't believe that was
happening to me, especially withI advocate so heavily on girls,
saying no to that and speakingout on it and calling it out.
And it would just been, itwould have been so hypocritical

(48:32):
of me just to smile and be likehey, girl, hey, I'm not doing
that Right?

Speaker 1 (48:40):
Good call on that.
It does look like there is.
Is that some sort of fanny packover the belt?
That's a very, very progressivemove, yeah.

Speaker 2 (48:50):
He was doing I don't know what he was trying to do,
definitely not a fashion guy.

Speaker 5 (48:54):
But the biggest thing , like my most important thing
is, I'm never wearing that.

Speaker 1 (48:58):
Never.
No girls are ever wearing that.
That could be the mostoffensive thing of all.
Exactly, but anyway, okay, sohere's what happens is you
record this guy, right?

Speaker 2 (49:07):
You confront him because, like you said, it'd be
hypocritical of you not to do so.
Right?
You felt like I'm an advocatefor this.
What the hell are you doing inour bathroom?
Certain, but that's basicallywhat you're saying at that point
.
What happens after this?
Because you faced anotherconsequence after this, tell us
about that.

Speaker 5 (49:23):
Yeah.
So I filmed it for my safetybecause, again, I didn't know
who this guy was.
I didn't know if he was astudent or what.
I didn't know how he was goingto react with me questioning him
.
So I did that for my safety andthen I posted it for awareness
because I could not believe thiswas happening on our campus and
a lot of girls come to find outdidn't know either.

(49:44):
So anyway, I post it and itabsolutely explodes overnight.
I get a call from the schooland my sorority the next day
setting up meetings with me.
I went through two differenthearings with my sorority and
ended up getting my membershipterminated immediately because—
so they kicked you out.
Yeah, I made them look bad.
And then which is like,whatever, I'm not.

(50:07):
And they tried to get me totake a class to know how to post
on social media and tried toget me to apologize and all that
stuff.
And I was like, how about?
No, like I'm not going to lieand act like I didn't believe
this just to fit into this group.
I'm not going to do that ever.
So that was a whole other thing.

(50:28):
And then the school.
I actually had to go under anine-month like investigation by
the school.
They were investigating mebecause he was trying to get me
charged with sexual harassmentand get me expelled.
And after he reported me, Ireported him back and they
totally disregardedarded mycomplaint, saying no normal

(50:50):
person would have a problem withthis.
They kept his and thankfully Ihad an attorney who, like,
really cared about getting methrough this because if I hadn't
, then I would have definitelylost and been charged with
sexual harassment for that, ohmy gosh.
And I ended up winning thatcase this past January.
But it caused me to have tomove home and do school online

(51:11):
because the school was evenconcerned for my safety and this
guy's like walking aroundfreely in his sundresses every
day.
Just fine.
But then, like during thehearing, saying how horrible
what I did was and how no one inthe LGBTQ community is safe
with me on campus and like Istill haunt him and like all

(51:33):
this stuff.

Speaker 1 (51:35):
Let's go back to the letter from the sorority, by the
way, because it's a prettywell-known Delta Zeta, correct?
Yeah, okay so, and actually mymom's a Delta Zeta.

Speaker 2 (51:44):
Okay, she is.
I'm going to tell my mom.
We're going to call my mom, butlet's just take a look at this.
She'll write a letter on yourbehalf.

Speaker 1 (51:49):
Oh, trust me, Don't you worry, we get my mom on this
, and you can bet that thingsare going to change fast, that's
right.
So just an interesting thinghere.
They mention in this letterhere that you violated a couple
of their policies policy and themoral prejudicial conduct I
mean and not mentioning at all,you know, your safety in all of

(52:13):
this or anything else.
Were you shocked Like what wasthe reaction of the girls in the
house?

Speaker 5 (52:19):
A lot of them were completely on my side about it.
They did not want me to leave,but there was probably a handful
of them who were trying to getme out from the beginning just
because of all the sports stuff.
They didn't want me there tobegin with, so they thought this
was the perfect opportunity toget me gone completely.
And then it ended up working.
I don't know.
I thought it was just like aslap in the face.

(52:41):
I mean, this is supposed to bea sisterhood or whatever and
supposed to uplift women andempower women, but that's
obviously not what it's about.
Like they completelydisregarded my feelings and my
safety and how I felt about thewhole situation and I was in a
really dark like this was areally hard time for me because
I just like I'm just trying tofinish school and now like I'm

(53:06):
having to fight against not onlythis guy but also the school,
who's helping him, and mysisters, who are supposed to be
there, are nowhere to be found.
They throw me out just so theydon't have to get involved.
So it was really hard, but itwas also eye-opening that this
gender ideology push hasliterally affected everything.

Speaker 2 (53:29):
And I think what's shocking and I've talked about
this on our show quite a bit ishow this is really being
perpetuated, mainly by women.
It's the other women that aresaying no, let's stick up for
the trans movement, let's keepthese people in the sports
against our girls.
They go exactly against whatTitle IX was even formulated for
.
And I'm sitting here going whatis wrong with you, star girls.
They go exactly against whattitle nine was even formulated
for, and and I and I, just I'msitting here going what is wrong

(53:50):
with you?
This couldn't be moreanti-women what you're doing.
So tell us a little bit aboutyour, your.
You are doing this big eventtomorrow her game, her legacy
Okay, we.
It is happening in Santa Fe onMonday.

Speaker 1 (54:02):
Oh sorry, On Monday yes.

Speaker 2 (54:03):
On Monday, and it's.
It's happening from one to 4, Ibelieve, and we have a small
graphic.
It is going to be at the SantaFe Farmers Market Pavilion and
there's a lot of guest folksshowing up to celebrate Title IX
and getting people to say, hey,listen, enough of this, enough
of this madness.
We want women playing againstwomen, right?

(54:24):
That's basically the gist of it.

Speaker 5 (54:26):
Is it not?
Yes, yeah, this is basicallycelebrating all the women before
us that worked so hard for usto even have these opportunities
, and now we're just fightingfor the next generation because
they're trying to take that away.
So I'm really excited.
This event's going to beamazing.
There's such amazing speakersthat are coming and I'm very,

(54:48):
very thankful to be a part of itand event's going to be amazing
.

Speaker 1 (54:51):
There's such amazing speakers that are coming and I'm
very, very thankful to be apart of it and it's going to be
awesome.
Yeah, education secretary LindaMcMahon, she'll be there.
Former governor Susana Martinezyou got some other great guests
on there as well.
It is going to be good, butagain it's Santa Fe Monday, one
to four at the farmer's marketpavilion at the farmer's market.

Speaker 2 (55:05):
Do we need tickets to go?
Does anybody need?

Speaker 1 (55:07):
tickets.
Do you know?
To go or you can just show upoh, you can show up and sign up
online.

Speaker 2 (55:13):
Okay, easy enough, that's easy enough and we'll put
that in our show notes as well,for those of you but it's her
game.

Speaker 1 (55:18):
herlegacycom is where you can register for that yeah,
and can I just ask you one morebefore you go, where do you go
from here?
So, so if you could look outand you could say you know,
ideally this is kind of the pathI'm hoping to follow, what
would you do, peyton?
Where would you go?

Speaker 5 (55:31):
I think I'm just going to go.
I have no idea.
This is like so.
I've never.
I never had a plan really.
I thought I was going to be ateacher or something, and then
you know just the thought ofthis ever happening to my
younger sister, or if I getblessed enough to have daughters
one day, they should neverthink there's a possibility for
a man to be on the other side ofthe court.

(55:52):
So that's been my whole fuelthrough this Constantly.
What would Jesus do?
Of course I could never compareto everything he's done, but in
any way, if I could shun thatlie in any way, that's what I'm
going to be doing.
So I'm just going to follow hisplan.
I tried to run from it at firstbut I think that's the quickest
way for him to laugh in yourface is to make your own plans.

Speaker 2 (56:15):
Exactly.
Don't make your own plans.
Jesus always says nope, I'vegot a different direction for
you.
You're headed this way.
Yeah, I know how that goes.

Speaker 1 (56:20):
Absolutely Never promised it would be easy, but
he promised he'll be there and Ithink that's what you're
getting Very cool.

Speaker 2 (56:25):
Well, peyton, we appreciate you coming to New
Mexico.
New Mexico is blessed to haveyou.
Keep up the fight, keep up thevoices.
We need this to be out there inthe media and out there for
people to hear, and especiallyfor young daughters like my
daughter who plays volleyball.
Right, I want this to bechanged on a statewide level and
I hope that your voice givescredence to that.

(56:45):
So thanks so much for joiningus today.

Speaker 1 (56:47):
We appreciate it.
Thanks, appreciate it.

Speaker 11 (56:50):
You're listening to the no doubt about it podcast
Back to your hosts, Christie andMark Ronchetti.

Speaker 12 (56:58):
Or Ella and Christie Ronchetti.
Yeah, ella or Christie.

Speaker 2 (57:02):
Ronchetti.
We are joined by Ella Ronchetti, First time caller long time.
We are joined by Ella Ronchetti, first-time caller, long-time
producer.

Speaker 12 (57:08):
I've literally never been on the podcast before, so
I just would like to say this iscool, well welcome.
What did you think about PeytonMcNabb?
How great was she.
I thought she was so good andshe was really just.
I loved her.

Speaker 2 (57:21):
I thought she was well-spoken and she was very
entertaining.
Yeah, she's a great advocatefor all you girls out there
playing sports, right?
Yeah, especially volleyball.
Yeah, especially volleyball,absolutely Okay.
So Mark now has switched gears.
He is behind the scenes takingElla's spot because me and Ella
have to talk about something.
But before we share our littlestory, of course Mark has a
weather story for you.

Speaker 1 (57:41):
Well, yeah, I really do as a matter of fact.
Okay, let's try it.
Take a look here no-transcript.

Speaker 2 (58:09):
It was an F4 that came through Shreveport the
Saturday night before EasterSunday and just wiped out a
whole section of the town andmade its way up through Oklahoma
.
It was terrifying and I hadPTSD from that because I said
how do you know in the dark ifthese are coming your way?
That's insane.

Speaker 12 (58:27):
That's so scary.

Speaker 1 (58:28):
Well, and also there's some meteorological
reasons.
You get a lot of these thingsat night.
I mean, definitely there issome support for that.
It's the conditions and avariety of reasons why I don't
have to get into it now, but itdefinitely happens, especially
in the Midwest, that thatphenomenon at night is something
that happens pretty regularlyand it's just terrifying to
watch this.
I mean, you just see it, it'scrazy.

(58:49):
With each light up you can seeit.
You look real close.
You can see the tornado down atthe base of the supercell
thunderstorm.

Speaker 2 (58:55):
So nobody got hurt in that situation?
Yeah, and it was from just soyou know.

Speaker 1 (58:59):
Uh, Enderlin, North Dakota a couple nights ago.
So, by the way, a lot more rainon the way here over the next
couple of days.
Yeah, coming up Tuesday,wednesday we're going to get
pretty wet.
We'll take it, so that's somegood news.

Speaker 2 (59:11):
We'll take all the rain, all the precipitation we
can get here for sure, yes,absolutely.
So we, ellen and I, visitedBoston this last couple of days,
and I don't know if any of youout there have seen this
documentary on Netflix.
It's called this is a Robberyand it is talking about.
It's a fascinating documentary,by the way, but it's about an
art heist the largest, theworld's largest art heist in the

(59:33):
world.
It happened in the 1990s.
They've never caught the peoplewho stole the art and they've
never recovered the art, whichis over like a half a billion
dollars in art Rembrandt Saga.
I mean, there's a lot of famousartists' work that were stolen
and they don't know who did it.
And so it's in this beautifulmuseum called the Isabella

(59:53):
Gardner or Isabella StewartGardner Museum.
Do I have that right?
Yeah, I think you do, yeah, andbasically, if you look at these
pictures that Ellen and I, thishouse has been renovated.
By the way, it's this beautifulhouse, this old house that
Isabella built in the early1900s and put all her beautiful
pieces of art, and on theseframes, some of these frames,
like if you look at that frame,go back, mark, real quick, go

(01:00:14):
back, okay, that little frame,don't get so nasty.

Speaker 1 (01:00:17):
I'm working on it, I know Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:00:22):
It's not very great at this.
So see, the little one had afamous piece in there and it was
just taken um and I thoughtthat was crazy.
Ella, you watched this wholeseries on tiktok, right well,
okay.

Speaker 12 (01:00:32):
So a couple years ago I got pretty into it.
I found it on tiktok.
It was just like this wholestory about how these security
guards were working one nightand one night they literally
just walked into the, the roomsand all these paintings were
gone.
They cut the the paintings out,completely clean out of all
these frames and like left theframes but took the art and

(01:00:52):
basically they've literallynever found any of these pieces
of art ever again and they'venever.
They don't even know who did itand I think they offer.
I think it's three milliondollars if you return the art.

Speaker 2 (01:01:02):
Oh, I think it's more than that.
I think it's up to 10 million,something like that.
The reward is no questionsasked.
If you give the art back,they'll give you the money well,
and it's art that you're nevergonna be able to sell because
it's famous.
Like there's a famous, uh, acouple things.
So these are the pictures.
Uh, like you just walk in andthere's pictures of these.
I mean, there's big frames andthey don't say anything at the
museum.

Speaker 12 (01:01:21):
They don't even mention the art heist.
Really, they mentioned it.
Um, there was one room wherethey had this flip book where
you could go through and seewhat art was missing, and uh,
basically like see like there'sa little one right there book
that just says like, oh, this iswhat got taken, but they really
don't mention the art heistthat much.
But you do go through each ofthese rooms.
It was the most like, I think,creative museum I've literally

(01:01:42):
ever seen.
Yeah, we had to take a picturein front of course two more
behind you guys.
There's two right there, thatwas just full of these massive
frames the Dutch room.

Speaker 2 (01:01:49):
They took like six pieces out of the Dutch room and
it's besides the robbery,though this museum is the most
eclectic right here.
This is a courtyard that's inthe middle of this house and if
you'll just play this video, Itook a quick little video of it.
Yeah, it's like thearchitecture is unbelievable.
It's so pretty.
Um, and I just you know I'm notblown away by every museum.

(01:02:10):
If I'm being honest, thismuseum blew me away because
there were so many differenttype of pieces in this museum.
I can't speak highly enoughabout going to see it because I
thought, you know she definitelyIsabella was a Catholic and she
collects a lot of Catholic typepieces from like the 15th and
16th century in Spain and Italy,and I mean her collection was

(01:02:31):
unbelievable.

Speaker 12 (01:02:32):
Yeah, it was insane.
She became, I think, super richbecause her dad died and he
gave her all this money and shejust instantly went and started
collecting all this art and waslike, oh, I have nowhere to keep
it.
And so she started buildingthis massive museum and she just
kept all of it in this museum,which was super cool.
And I just thought it was supercool Cause it was like it was
insane, Cause you think about itit's like, oh, it's a museum,
but it's full of her ownpersonal collection of art, and

(01:02:54):
it was super full.

Speaker 2 (01:02:55):
Yeah, and she has said you can't.
In her will she left money totake care of the place and said
no renovations, no, um, sothat's kind of why they had some
security issues when the artwas stolen is they don't have
cameras in there.
You know, they've just made allthese rules about that.
They have security guards inevery room.

Speaker 12 (01:03:12):
Yeah, and now they built it out a little bit.
So there is like a more modernpart of the museum, like there's
a modern add-on at thebeginning where they have like
security and you're not allowedto have your backpack in there,
and it was super like theydefinitely did ramp it up a
little bit with like security,so then, like you know, you
can't take the art anymore, butit is super cool.

Speaker 1 (01:03:31):
You can't take the art anymore, unlike before, when
you can just rip it offwhenever you felt.
Okay, that's not what I meant.

Speaker 12 (01:03:36):
I just meant like you know, like before they
didn't really care that muchabout security and now they're
clearly not.
Well, yeah, and now there'slike this whole add-on and
there's the original museumstill there.
You can still see the outsidein the original museum.
But it was really cool.
They obviously didn't add tothe original museum at all and
then they gave a bunch ofbackstory of people in her life.
It was actually really cool.
I thought it was a really coolexperience.

Speaker 2 (01:03:56):
Yeah, we gave it two thumbs up.
So if you're in Boston, I knowthere's always things to do in
Boston a hot day or a rainy dayit was super hot.
It was a great experience for us, so we highly recommend it and,
by the way, watch thatdocumentary If you're looking
for something to watch.
It's fascinating, right?
Super cool.
Okay, so that's it for us.
We appreciate you joining us.

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