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Congresswoman Melanie Stansbury brought props to a committee hearing⊠and they completely backfired. She proudly held up a sign meant to support her argumentâbut the numbers didnât even add up to 100%.
Republicans pounced.
But instead of laughing it off, Stansbury doubled down and threw a fit.
Mark breaks it all downâand argues that New Mexico deserves better than this kind of unserious behavior from its elected officials.
đ Trouble for Deb Haaland?
Deb Haalandâs new campaign video for Governor is raising eyebrowsâand Krysty explains why it could backfire.
Sam Bregman will still get smoked by Haaland in the primary but Harlandâs struggles could make the race more exciting. We break down how the messaging missteps are already starting to show.
đźđ± Israel-Iran Conflict: The Truth Behind the Leaks
The media is reporting that the latest U.S.-backed Israeli strike on Iranâs nuclear program may have only set it back a few months.
Mark isn't buying it.
We go behind the headlines and explain why this leak may be more about political cover than truthâand whatâs next in this escalating conflict.
đ„ Krystyâs Netflix Pick: The Karen Read Case
Krysty gives her take on the new Karen Read documentary on Netflix thatâs catching fire across the country.
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- A sneaky coyote
- And an elk for the ages
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Speaker 2 (00:06):
all right, all right, here we go.
Um okay, quick, uh quick uhupdate on what's going on in the
show.
Here we're gonna have some uhviewer comments yes and then
we're gonna get to, um, oh lord,some local politics.
uh, actually a a little DCaction, a New Mexico
(00:26):
representative covering herselfin glory, in a way that just is
heartbreaking, honestly, and thereason I say that is because,
as a kid who grew up in a familywhere we loved talking politics
and you revered people, thatserved even growing up like I
was and we, I was in a couple ofcampaign ads for the governor
(00:48):
of the state of Vermont wholived next to us, yeah, yeah,
dick Snelling.
Speaker 5 (00:52):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
And but, but.
And then he ran for Senateagainst Pat Leahy and Pat Leahy
is an institution in the Senateand it was tough to beat Pat
Leahy.
I don't know why he ran againsthim, but either way, whatever.
But you respected Pat Leahy atthe time as a kid because you're
like man.
That's a really big job andit's a big deal.
Speaker 6 (01:07):
Right.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
You know, it's really an important thing.
And there were senators fromother parts of the country and
you know, no matter what youthought of them, you know,
politically you're like, wow,that means something.
Speaker 7 (01:17):
Right, right.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
And I worry, now that we're now we're in this of of
show horses in Congress which,by the way, both sides have been
guilty of it.
But the problem is, here in NewMexico we have someone who has
decided she's going full showhorse and it's embarrassing to
watch, especially when you'renot good at being a show horse.
Like it's one thing.
If you're a good show horse,you're like dang, that's a good
show horse, right there.
Aoc is a good show horse.
Right, she's a show horse, noquestion about it?
Speaker 7 (01:40):
I'm not sure I'd like to say good.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
No, no, no.
No.
I don't mean good on herpolitical views or anything else
.
I'm not talking about that.
I'm talking about beingeffective at being a show horse.
Speaker 5 (01:49):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
And that's not I don't say that as a compliment,
I just say it as a fact Likeshe's one of those people that
is effective at doing that sortof thing.
Okay, matt Gates was good at it, he was an effective show horse
.
So, in other words, you wouldhave him show up, he'd throw out
these comments and be all youknow, work his little thing, get
his little viral moment andthen off he goes, like where's
the important?
You know, actual work you'redoing for the people.
(02:11):
Wow, we don't know where thatis.
That doesn't exist, don't worryabout that.
But he's a good show horse.
But we've got the that.
We're going to take the latestlook at Deb Holland's latest
campaign effort, which we'regoing to take a quick look at.
We're going to get back intothe Israel ceasefire real quick
stuff there.
Where are we on that whole deal?
(02:33):
Uh, you're going to talk abouta piece of programming that you
loved.
Speaker 7 (02:37):
Well, I thought it was interesting.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Okay.
Speaker 7 (02:39):
Yeah, I think it's worth.
You know, I always like tolisten to like.
I listen to podcasts and I lovewhen they recommend either
books or shows to watch.
I think that's kind of fun.
So I always like, when I watchsomething or hear something, I
always kind of throw it out andsay, hey, let's.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Right.
Speaker 7 (02:52):
Let's, let's talk, tell people.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Yeah, yeah, no, it's very good.
So a news topic, yes, and Ihave a new segment that every
show from now on.
Well, no, at least once, Ishouldn't say that once a week
no I'm doing it once.
Speaker 7 (03:05):
I'm sorry once a month.
I'll let you do it once.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
No, I'm doing it once a week, you know what people
you write in.
Speaker 7 (03:09):
Tell us if you want this, this new segment, once a
month or every show yep, yeah,yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
No, I'm thinking once a week and it's called.
You're gonna make me make likea uh a graphic for it yeah,
we're gonna do a graphic and,like dude, yeah, we'll do a
little music with it, and it'scalled mark's game cameras.
What did mark catch on the gamecameras this week?
Speaker 7 (03:27):
oh my god, you know what the sound effect's gonna be
.
What me snoring.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Oh stop, it's very except people are gonna love
this are they?
Though we got some pretty goodanimals this week I understand,
I get the.
Speaker 7 (03:37):
I mean, I was talking to a girlfriend of mine today.
Uh, jessica, she also watches alocal game camera here in new
mexico well, that's what this is.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
It's an angel and I was like what are you?
Speaker 7 (03:48):
you and mark should hang out and watch your game
camera videos, put it on, justdrink it in oh my gosh yeah,
it's fantastic.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
No, jessica's right, I'm in the documentary stuff I'm
watching.
I'm watching that, that's whatwe're gonna talk about some
incredible stuff, so we'll getinto it please, please, write in
and tell us does market to dothis segment every?
Month.
Well, hold on, watch thesegment.
It's the end of the show oronce a show let's, let's, let
the segment air and breathefirst.
Would you stop trying to snuffout the segment before it even
starts?
All right, all right, let's gowith some viewer feedback some
(04:16):
comments that we got from thelast show.
Speaker 7 (04:18):
Okay, raccoon little bear said another great show and
a very brave guest, meaningPeyton McNabb.
She was on our last show, somake sure you, if you guys want
to listen in, you can check outour last show.
President Trump made the rightcall on the airstrike.
Nice to see Ella gettinginvolved more in the show as
well.
Blessings to you all.
Ella.
A little shout out for Ella.
I never get shout outs, so I do, I shot comments, is what I'm
(04:40):
saying comments is what I'msaying.
Speaker 8 (04:44):
Actually.
You do get some shout outs.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
So if people want to start leaving comments about me.
I will read them.
Once you get, once you get totaste of the uh, oh, she's like
I gotta taste of the love fromme.
Speaker 7 (04:50):
She's gonna be over here sitting in our third oh,
absolutely, just adding herlittle we're gonna be hiring
another producer here prettysoon yes okay, uh, harold m said
mark and christy did anexcellent job interviewing your
guests, which again was patemcnabb.
She was comfortable throughoutthe interview and answered all
questions thoroughly.
Great job on both parties.
Kudos, thanks, harold.
Yeah, she was a.
She was, yeah, absolutely greatkid yep um.
And then jennifer fuentes I hadto do this one.
(05:11):
She actually wrote a reallyserious comment, but I I just
took this part of it because Ithought it was so funny.
Okay, uh, nice, change up withthe button down mark gives the
impression that you're even moreknowledgeable and trustworthy,
with a little smiley face well,and and j then look at you today
.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Yeah, I know what you got going.
Here's the problem.
I didn't have time to shower ordo anything through the hat on,
changed from a workout and I'mjust here right now.
I'm so sorry about that,jennifer, and so the credibility
right back down again rightback down, Cause you, you know.
I mean I try to show up everyday for our people.
Like today you were.
You were look like you'reheaded out on some sort of Greek
cruise, which I'm loving itright now.
(05:45):
It's a fantastic look.
Speaker 7 (05:46):
Here's the thing about Mark and his comments Like
did you just hear that one?
I'm going on a Greek cruise.
That's Mark's idea of acompliment everybody.
So I mean I'd like to be goingon a great cruise.
Don't get me wrong, I wouldthink it'd be fabulous.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
I wasn't dressing to, oh, okay.
Speaker 7 (05:59):
Thanks, thanks we do have to talk about compliments
sometime with our, with ourfolks, cause Mark gave me this
compliment he thinks it's acompliment which was actually
really funny on our trip.
Uh, we visited Cape Cod uh, acouple of weeks ago and I came
out and I knew in my head, whenI was putting on this cream
sweater and these like khakipants, I'm like Mark's going to
say, oh, he's got, she's got herCape Cod outfit on.
(06:21):
Like I knew what he was goingto say.
I come out.
Literally this is the firstthing he comes out of his mouth.
He's like oh, look at you andyour little Cape Cod outfit.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
I thought it looked very nice.
Speaker 7 (06:31):
Yeah, but that's not what you said.
Well, that's what I meant.
You're like, just like you havea title for all of my outfits
yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
So I think to start with a little breakdown here Now
, this you probably rememberfrom the State of the Union, or
really, it's not the State ofthe Union.
It's the first one a presidentgives in its term.
It's just kind of an update.
But either way, you can seeStansberry standing there with
the sign saying this is notnormal.
Okay, performative politics uh,this has nothing to do with
anything other than trying totroll and get attention right,
(07:12):
and you see these sorts ofthings from her increasing in in
volume, in number, that shejust regularly does these little
things where she's justperformative and so, which is
which is fine.
There are people who do that,and there's again, as I said
before, there's some people whoare good at it.
She's not particularly good atit, but let's just listen to
(07:32):
this one.
This is she was on she's on oneof the Doge subcommittees and
she talked about what's going onwith Elon Musk and decided to
try to make a pop culturereference.
Speaker 8 (07:44):
This is one of the most unpopular domestic and
global policy agendas in modernhistory and they're here trying
to convince you all that weshould make Doge permanent.
But here's the thing the GOPmay continue to try to make Doge
a thing, but no matter how hardthey keep trying, gop will
(08:04):
never make Doge a thing.
But no matter how hard theykeep trying, gop will never make
doge happen, even with theirregina george out of the picture
that's mr elon musk in thisscenario.
Americans just aren't buyingtickets to this show and, just
like the movie business houserepublicans, doge reboot isn't
hitting like they thought itwould okay, I, I don't, I don't
know, that I don't know thatmovie I do, but I still.
Speaker 7 (08:26):
Even I that falls flat right, right, okay.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
So yeah, no question, right, and I I don't, I don't
know about mean girls, whatever,but but the point being in all
this, trying to create someweird kind of the first of all,
the whole doge, thing, by theway, mean girls isn't like pop
culture right now.
Speaker 7 (08:41):
It's like a 12 year old movie, or 15 year old movie
too.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
So true, true, yeah, yeah, no, no, no, true, I but,
but I even even beyond that,right, it's just you watch it
and go.
Are you serious?
Like, what are we doing?
You go and print out some hugepicture of a couple of Hollywood
actresses with some subtitlememes, whatever, okay, and and
you're you're arguing againstgovernment accountability,
whatever too.
(09:04):
Like I don't even care abouther point, but you just kind of
watch it and go, okay, it'sclownery.
You're doing this more and more.
It seems to be your thing, andshe's got these people in her
staff that, I'm sure, tellingher this is it?
People are loving this, they'reloving what you're doing.
Now.
Can you name one substantivething that melanie stansbury has
done for the people of thestate of New Mexico?
(09:25):
And the answer is not no, youcan't, because this is all
acting, this is play acting.
Speaker 7 (09:30):
Well, and she also keep in mind that she also came
back to the state, did thesetown hall tours to tell
everybody that Social Securitywas going to be cut and so is
your Medicaid.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Yeah, we're still waiting for that to happen.
Speaker 7 (09:39):
I mean, that's what she was doing as of a couple
weeks ago.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Right doing as of a couple of weeks ago.
So right, yeah, no, absolutelyso.
So we lay all this groundworkto say that it's happened again.
So she decided that she's goingto get some more attention, and
so and I thought this was an AIgenerated picture, what I'm
about to show you I thought itwas like, oh well, that's
clearly AI.
She didn't do this.
This is dumb.
She wouldn't do this.
Let's take a look at thepicture.
Here it is.
Now.
She says how do you rate thework of Elon Musk?
And Doge, okay.
And she goes okay.
(10:08):
Now, by the way, it does notcite the sourcing on any of this
by the way 67%.
disapprove 38, approve five.
Don't know.
Now, I am no mathematician,okay, and believe me, I, I, I'm,
I'm, I'm.
I'm not even going to rip intothe mistake.
Go ahead, put the picture backup, add the numbers.
Yeah, it's 110%.
(10:29):
Okay, so she's wrong on thenumbers.
Now, just so you know.
You know, in in all of this,the staff for a congressional
member is around 18 people.
Just so you know, she is notworking alone by herself in an
office coming up with thesethings doing right
yeah, sitting there gluing it on.
Yeah, I'll get the glue stickout.
Let's put the numbers on here.
(10:49):
Right, she's not doing that.
She has a staff of 18 peopleroughly.
Some of them are back in newmexico, clearly, and then some
are back in dc.
Speaker 7 (10:56):
My guess is you probably have five, six, seven
people with eyes on this yeahnone of them pick it up right,
none of them get it she doesn'teven bother, shows us the future
of our, of our people, becausethey're usually young people
that are staffers well, right,right so you see it.
What does that say?
Speaker 2 (11:10):
if you start at it and you look at it, you go okay
common core math, everybodycommon core math yeah, I mean
you would and maybe that's theproblem right, add all the
columns up.
Even if you add all themcolumns up, come up with 110
right but, but anyway.
So she looks at this right, orclearly doesn't look at it, and
I guarantee you there's astaffer who got shredded for
this.
But if you're going to be agrandstander like this and
(11:33):
you're going to go in, you'regoing to put up this huge sign.
You dang well, better, look atthat number and add it up in
your own head.
And she didn't.
Ok, it happens.
So I'm still forgiving of thisstuff because I make stupid
mistakes all the time and Ithink we need to be
understanding of those sorts ofthings.
Okay, but you know, there's somemedia groups that got on our
media, which is by no means aright-wing group.
(11:53):
They said watch a Democrattrots out placard and the house
hearing with a glaring matherror promptly gets dunked on by
Marjorie Taylor green.
You'll hear that in just asecond.
And then OutKick Clay Travis'sgroup says House Democrat Rep
Melanie Stansbury shows pollwith an obvious error.
Okay, so my biggest problemwith this isn't even, it's not
the math, it's not the mistake.
(12:14):
People make mistakes andunfortunately in this day and
age, when you make a mistake youget dunked on.
That's how it happens.
Okay, my problem is the way shehandled being called out for it
and she was called out for it,and so I want you to listen to
what she says, and then I'll getyour reaction on how you think
she handled it.
Speaker 5 (12:31):
The poll behind you, behind our ranking member, it
adds up to 110%.
Just wanted to clarify.
Is it meant to add up to 110%or is that an error?
Do you yield?
Yeah, I do.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
This is from a Quinnipiac poll that was held
two weeks ago, and this is thedata that was provided.
There's a wealth of information, including information about
Donald Trump's falling pollnumbers, so you should take a
look.
Speaker 6 (12:54):
Thanks, I yield back information about donald trump's
falling poll numbers so youshould take a look.
Thanks, uh, the gentlemanyields and it still adds up to
110.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
That's a fake poll right there that's marjorie
taylor green, adding in herlittle two cents.
Speaker 7 (13:06):
So thoughts well, number one, what's the name of
the poll?
Again, quinnipiac?
Uh, okay, and then, and so shedoubles down on on it, which is
interesting move.
And then she's like, oh, and weall that.
That same polling place.
They also have informationabout Donald Trump's numbers.
You should read them up, shouldwe Cause?
Clearly, if this is the bullnumbers they gave you for this
(13:26):
one, I'm not sure I'd betweeting them a little bit.
I would not be giving them alot of coverage.
So again it's like why couldshe not?
I think I just don't think itgenerated in her head fast
enough, I think even when theycalled her out on 110% no idea
she's like I don't even knowwhat that means.
Like I really feel like she waslike no, I'm all about this
poll and everybody hates Doge,and da, da, da, da, da.
Like I think that's what she?
was like that's where hermindset was at and she wasn't
(13:50):
that up for common sense, likejust to be able to slow down and
be like, okay, yeah, thatactually is probably going to be
a hundred percent Like shecould have made a joke about it.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
Here's my opinion on that.
I think you're, you're, you're,I think you're right on, on, on
.
Maybe it didn't register orwhatever else, but you're right
(14:20):
on.
There's only one way to handlethat to make a joke and then be
like, yeah, it got me there.
Sorry, I mean, it's the onlyshow some humility, right.
Make a joke about it and thenmove on.
But this is the problem, you'vegot a bad show horse, right?
So then, when the show horsegets called out in the middle of
dressage, you know and you'relike the dressage routine is not
working out, show horse.
And then the show horse meltsdown and just goes oh yeah,
donald Trump.
(14:41):
You just watch it and go.
There are literally peopleacross this state who struggled
to get to the end of the month.
We have one of the mostchallenging healthcare systems
in the country.
We are last in education andthat's not ironic,
representative Sandsbury, you'reunfortunately a little
emblematic of it.
You see all those things andall the struggles people have in
this state and you're mostconcerned with creating as much
(15:04):
of a viral moment as you can, asoften as you can, and it's an
embarrassment to the people youserve.
Of true core values, aboutcaring about the people you
represent, I would think you'dpivot and say I got to be better
than this.
There are a lot of people whogrind it out every day, trusting
that I will go to Washington DCand fight for them in a
(15:26):
meaningful way, not in a waywhere you show you know Rachel
McAdams on a board at acongressional hearing.
I mean not in a way that youput up numbers that don't even
add up.
Not in a way that you stand andhold a sign next to the
president.
Nobody cares about any of that.
Grow up and do a job, but nowthat's politics.
(15:47):
It's now become thisperformative nightmare where
nobody seems to care that thereare people who genuinely need
help and they're not getting it.
Speaker 7 (15:58):
Yeah, she, she just appears to me to be trying to
film like a reality show forInstagram.
Like that's what it feels likeit feels like I want to create
Tik TOKs and Instagram reels andthis is the best way.
I know how to do it and I haveno idea who's giving her these
great ideas.
Like I just feel like you comeoff completely unserious about
major league issues and it islike, as you've listed all the
(16:21):
things that our state are reallytroubled with it.
It becomes a combination ofjust not only somebody who's
just inadequate for the job, butshe looks foolish and she's
embarrassing our state.
Like that's an embarrassmentand she should be embarrassed.
Like she should say I need todo better.
I need to figure out how to betaking this job more seriously
and not being a clown for thesake of Instagram and thinking
(16:43):
I'm cute and I'm funny and lookat me, I'm a big influencer and
this will get me more votes andmaybe more popularity in my
state and then I'll get morepeople to vote for my reelection
.
I mean, I, that's to me.
What she's focusing on is Iwant to be a name that people
remember and meanwhile, youdon't want to be a name that
people go oh that's, she's.
A clown Like this is.
(17:03):
She's equal to an absolute fool.
She makes a fool out of herself, and I just think that we got
to do better and we got to dobetter in the people that we
elect to go there.
We need people that take thisjob seriously.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
No, and I agree, and you see it on both sides too.
I mean Marjorie Taylor Greene,who was ripping into her, she
does the same stuff.
I know her clownery isridiculous too, and so you know.
That's why it hits closer tohome, because she's our
representative here and we seeit and go.
Where are we here?
You know this is.
(17:38):
You have such a gulf betweenthe life that these people in
Congress lead and the lives ofthe people on the ground in
their districts.
They just don't care that.
They see this as exactly whatyou said is another way to
influence, and not influence ina positive way, where you make
legislation which matters.
You influence it in ameaningless way, where you get
on Tik TOK and you get the Yasqueen routine Okay,
congratulations, but there'sstill people that are struggling
(18:01):
in your district thatconstantly give you their vote
and they get nothing for it.
Speaker 7 (18:05):
Yeah, it just feels like theory, like I'm in.
I'm in the high school studentcouncil or the middle school
student council.
What can I do to wow peopletoday?
How can I, you know, shake themup?
I'm going to wear pink at allmy events.
I'm going to get my megaphone.
I'm going to have a town hallmeeting in front of whatever I.
Just she's tired and it shelooks like a kid.
She looks at and she's actinglike a child and.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
I, I'm over it, so hopefully voters get over her
too, and by the way, if you'rewaiting for the Albuquerque
Journal to do a story on this,because if it were, oh, you're
going to hear nothing.
You're going to hear nothingfrom any of the television
stations, no, nothing.
Speaker 7 (18:41):
Nobody's going to cover this.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
Yeah, Now if you had had this, been a Republican
setup and done that, oh my gosh,it'd be everywhere.
Yeah, a shocking error.
How embarrassing is this.
How did it happen?
Let's check in with you know.
None of that will happen.
None, and that's part of theproblem that there is no
accountability for any of theselegislators anymore, so they
don't care.
There is no shame because thereis no accountability.
Speaker 7 (19:04):
And again, if somebody just asked her right
right there and said hey, soyou're just, you're for fraud
and abuse and waste in ourprogram, like that's what you're
sitting here promoting, likeyou and your sign, that's
ridiculous.
You still completely don'tunderstand what the process of
Doge was all about.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Well, yeah, that's another point.
She pushed back, though, andsaid that's not the way to do it
and everything else, but yeah.
Speaker 7 (19:23):
Speaking of, not a way to do it.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
All right, so yeah.
So I was finding stuff for theshow and I found Deb Holland
visited Taos.
Oh jeez.
Speaker 7 (19:36):
I'm sure she met with the people and she learned
about what they needed to havedone there and their real
concerns and I'm sure that shespent a lot of time talking to
people about their issues, right.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Well, yeah, I mean sort of.
I mean, well, let's wait andsee.
So this is interesting.
So let's listen to a little bit.
It's a little over a minute andwe're going to listen to what
Deb has to say about what herday was like, and and then we'll
react to it.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
Okay to say about what her day was like, and then
we'll react to it.
Good morning, new Mexico.
Spend a day of my life with mein Taos.
I started my day with youngpeople and tribal leaders at
Taos Pueblo.
It wouldn't be a stop in Taoswithout a stop at Monty's Chow
Cart.
The red chili beans and a tacogave me the energy I needed to
visit local businesses and meetwith communities.
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I stopped at ReThreadsConsignment, a local thrift
store.
I tried on a few differentthings, but settled on a dress,
a sweater and a summer jacket.
The team and I walked throughthe plaza and greeted New
Mexicans enjoying live music andenjoying the sunshine.
Then I stopped by World CupCoffee and met a local artist.
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Thanks to him, we discoveredthe Taos Artist.
Collective.
Speaker 5 (20:38):
New.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
Mexico's creative and entrepreneurial spirit holds up
local economies and I was proudto meet an artist I've been a
fan of for years and discovernew artists and their work.
My trip was complete with achance to hear from the Taos
Valley Asequia Association Alittle bit of water.
Speaker 5 (20:53):
I'm so grateful to them for the work they do to
protect our water and continueour New Mexico traditions.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
I am home when I'm surrounded by people who have so
much love for their communityand culture.
Tau Senos and I ended ourevening chatting about issues
that affect our beautiful state.
I'm so excited to continuehearing from more New Mexicans.
Speaker 7 (21:14):
Okay, thank you so much, she says she says goodbye,
okay, I'm sorry is she runningfor governor or is she trying to
be a travel influencer?
Because it's like a.
It's like travel influencersthey tell you where they ate for
lunch, they tell you where theyshop, they tell you where they
go to get the best art likethat's a travel influencer or a
blogger.
That's not somebody who'srunning for governor.
Seriously, yeah, you neverwould like.
(21:36):
And then we stopped in here andwe did this and I I picked out
a tie, by the way look, I Ididn't win either, so so, so
hold on.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
So so I'm saying okay , so I agree as a general rule,
I think it's too soft okaythat's an understatement yeah,
and it's not her strong suit,isn't that sort of thing.
So here's.
So if you're her campaign staff, I think you've got to.
First of all, it was pretty hamfistedly produced.
Speaker 7 (22:02):
Oh, it's terrible.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
And you can find someone with all the money she's
raising.
You can find someone who canedit off their phone and and do
a better job of of that workthan what you saw.
Speaker 7 (22:12):
Our producer could do that better.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
Well, that's a good point, but Ella may sabotage her
at a certain point.
So that may not be great, but Ithink you can do a better job
of the production value of it.
But I will tell you, I thinkwhat she's trying to do and get
ready for this, it is herapproach is going to be that
connect on a cultural level andstay away from deep issues and
deep dives and things like that.
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Now, if I were given her advice, I'd say okay, you need to put
a little more meat in this, justa little bit, not a ton,
because I think the overallpoint is connect culturally.
That's what she's going to haveto do.
She cannot go out there andgrind policy down.
It's not her deal.
So I but I was a little, Ithought it was interesting, I
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mean.
I was I watched it and just kindof went holy macaroni, Like I
just was watching it.
Well, I mean, okay.
Speaker 7 (23:00):
So you know what's interesting is.
I had a conversation withsomebody who listens to our show
and said you know, they, theyfeel like we need more people
that are running for office thattalk about the great things of
New Mexico instead of all thebad.
Okay, yeah, which I thought wasan interesting point.
Cause I'm like well, you do wantsomebody that sees the energy
and the hope and the beauty andthe future of New Mexico, but
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you also need to find somebodywho takes our our problems
seriously and has real solutionsto fix those problems.
So I kind of I kind of was likeI see where you're going with
us to the to this viewer.
But I also said, you know, Ibelieve there can be a
combination.
We had plenty of great mealsand had plenty of great you know
took in certain things pie town, certain areas of the state
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that they wanted to show us whatthey did and how they celebrate
being a special little spot ofNew Mexico.
There's nothing wrong with anyof that.
But you also need to be meetingwith people who are desperate
for change and want real thingsto happen and you need to be
taking the job seriously.
I just feel like she looks likea travel blogger and I think I
know she's trying to findconnection and she's we've
talked about she's going to havea hard time connecting with
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people because she's not a greatcommunicator, right?
I mean, I'm sorry if you messup that many times just in a
voiceover.
Have her redo it.
It was a minute long.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
Well, so I I'm sure that the thought process is on
that the old they're starting tobe this new thing where you
don't have to be perfect, right,and you can have a little thing
in there, cause it's supposedto be real quick.
But the problem is the natureof what they did didn't end up
looking real quick.
They put, they rolled B, rollover the top of it, things like
that.
So once you start doing thosethings, you're right, clean it
up, it up.
Right, clean it up.
Just, you got to cut out hererrors and things like that and
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you've got to be moreprofessional.
Speaker 7 (24:36):
You're going for a professional job.
I mean, I'm sorry, but like, atthe end of the day, yes, you
want people that can connectwith you, but you feel that
authenticity when you meetsomebody and when you know you.
You either have thatconnectivity or you don't.
And we've talked about that.
Some people are just naturallygifted that can connect with
people either across a camera,can connect with them on stage,
can connect with them one-on-onewith people.
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You're either born with thatgift or you're not.
Now it sometimes matters inelections and sometimes it
doesn't.
So it'll be interesting to see.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Right, well, that's just what I mean.
Like you've got to keep herseparated, right, you have to
run a very, very disciplinedcampaign for her, and part of
that is what you can watch onthis video.
Like you just have some someyou know some connection
problems there, which to yourpoint, but at the same time,
does this worry you then, as youwatch something like this, does
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this, when you look at for thatcampaign, to say, does this
make you think, okay, who knowsreally where we are in this
governor's race?
Because this is, this is toughto watch to me.
Speaker 7 (25:35):
This would show me, like all, if you're her people.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
Are you scared right now?
They're watching that, or doyou not care?
Speaker 7 (25:40):
oh no, they clearly don't care, because they're
producing this stuff likethey're putting the stuff out
there and they're shelling moneyher way and they're like, oh,
look how she seems like a niceperson and I'm just like, okay,
like I get that.
There's some ability that youneed to find connection with
people and i'm'm sure she's beentold that she's thrifting
clothes, things like that.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
I think that's designed to, you know, bridge
that gap.
Oh, I'm sure, Show that she'sone of the people that kind of
thing, whatever.
Speaker 7 (26:01):
Okay, but you either are one of the people or you're
not.
Like I don't know if you needto video all that.
You know, like you, I don'tknow.
I just think that that seems ina anybody that's going to be
running for governor to me.
When I look at something likethat, I think she doesn't take
this job seriously enough.
Now, maybe it's wrong, but Ithink that you, you, know, even
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our current governor gets a lotof flack for all the travel she
does and all these meetings thatshe has outside of the state,
right, so she gets destroyed onX every time she's out of the
state or out of the country.
Right, this to me looks like doyou know what the job even
entails to be governor, like Ithink fine, if you want to work
some of this in on top of actualall your serious stuff, that
you're managing things andyou're talking to these people
(26:44):
about water rights.
You're talking to these peopleabout logging rights.
You're talking to these peopleabout all the other issues,
education issues.
I just don't see that she'sdoing building up her
credibility enough to be able tocome in here and have hey, I'm
going shopping and eating sometacos.
I don't think there's enough tobalance that out yet.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
All right, all right.
Well, this is one video too, sowe don't want to judge
everything on that, but but yeah, no, I was a little.
I think the quality of whatneeds to be put out needs to be
a little better than than whatyou're seeing there, and I think
you better.
You better craft her image moretightly than they are.
I will say that's my bigtakeaway from this craft her
image more tightly.
If you want to be a seriouscandidate or our boy, you know,
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showboat Sam is going to eat herup and then I'm going to look
really stupid If if showboat Samends up getting the nomination
for the Democrats.
Speaker 7 (27:30):
Well I that that will floor me as well.
So yeah, I don't think it'llhappen.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
I actually don't think it'll happen, but again,
I've said that very clearly it'snot happening but, okay, all
right, so let's get to theceasefire situation.
All right, so there is aceasefire in the Israel Iran
conflict.
The 12 day war is Trump'scalling it now.
Uh, so they get to this.
And then in Trump, you know,heading to to to NATO.
A day ago he was on the SouthLawn and getting ready to hop on
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Marine One and he got spicy.
He got spicy because he was madat Israel and he's mad at Iran
for shooting each other,shooting at each other.
He wants his ceasefire to hold.
Speaker 7 (28:08):
And so, yeah, well, it was moments after that he
called for that.
He said that the ceasefire washappening, they're both on board
, and then Israel went afterIran and Iran fired back.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
Well, yeah, this is the next morning, yeah.
Speaker 7 (28:17):
And it got it, but he did get.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
But he dropped his own bomb no-transcript.
Speaker 4 (28:24):
You know what?
We basically have two countriesthat have been fighting so long
and so hard that they don'tknow what the they're doing.
Do you understand?
Speaker 5 (28:33):
that.
Speaker 7 (28:35):
Johnny, I mean bleep.
You know I get that he'sfrustrated.
I do understand it, and I'msure that every president has
had a truck driver mouth fromtime to time.
I'm just not sure it was thebest use to do that just on, you
know, television.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
Well, you know, yeah, that's definitely gotten some,
some interest, but I will sayoverall, I think he likes the
position he's in.
Cbs news came out with a newpoll.
There are 85% of RepublicansOkay, uh, approve of what he's
done.
Speaker 7 (29:08):
94% of quote MAGA Republicans I don't even know
what that means I was going tosay how do you even determine if
you're a Republican or a MAGA?
Speaker 2 (29:14):
Well, they probably ask you are, you MAGA, and then
they say yes or no, and so yeah,the numbers are very strong
with his own, you know, with hisown side on this, and so you
know, we'll wait and see.
But I think the interestingthing about this isn't
necessarily Trump's reaction tothe to to the ceasefire, which
again, it looks like it'sholding for now, so that's good.
(29:34):
What's happened now issomething I think is far more
interesting, and you saw anarticle in the Wall Street
Journal.
New York Times put outsomething on it.
So did CNN, breathlesslywanting so badly for something
to go poorly, and they'velatched onto this.
Speaker 7 (29:48):
Yeah, it says US strikes set back Iran nuclear
program by a few months.
Initial report says Preliminaryclassified intelligence report
produced by the DefenseIntelligence Agency counters
White House's claim of moreextensive damage.
And basically here's a quotefrom it.
It says a preliminaryintelligence report found that
the US military strikes lastweekend on three Iranian nuclear
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facilities only set backTehran's nuclear ambitions by a
few months, countering claimsmade by President Trump and the
White House.
According to people familiarwith the intelligence, the
initial findings written by theDefense Intelligence Agency
relied on military damageassessments following the US
bombings, the people said,adding that the assessment could
change as more intelligence iscollected.
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A senior administrationofficial confirmed the report's
existence but said it hadn'trisen to the level of being
shared with the DefenseDepartment's top leaders.
Several members of Congress,including full committees, have
seen or have had access to thereport.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
lawmakers said Okay, so just so, you know, first of
all, this is clearly leaked bysomebody who wants to do some
damage to what's happened.
You know, um, first of all,this is clearly leaked by
somebody who wants to do somedamage, uh, to what's happened
here.
Now.
Now, the pushback on this hasbeen swift in.
In this is, by the way, therewill be a backtracking of this
story guaranteed, and I'llexplain why in just a second.
But let's keep going.
Speaker 7 (31:00):
So this quote says us intelligence agencies
frequently produce classifiedreports that are later revised,
sometimes substantially, as moreinformation is collected.
Such reports don't necessarilyreflect the views of other spy
agencies and disagreement amongthe agencies isn't uncommon.
Caroline Levitt, the WhiteHouse press secretary, said in a
post on X that the quotealleged assessment is flat out
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wrong end quote and describedthe report as classified at the
top secret level.
She blamed a quote anonymouslow-level loser in the
intelligence community end quotefor leaking the report to the
media.
Cnn earlier reported on theassessment.
The Office of the Director ofNational Intelligence, which
oversees all intelligenceagencies in the US government,
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declined to comment.
The Defense Intelligence Agencydidn't respond to requests for
comment.
The report contradictsstatements from Trump, who has
repeatedly said that the targetsof the raids were destroyed.
Quote those targets wereobliterated, he said Tuesday
morning.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
Okay, so here's how CNN reported this.
When they got a hold of theinformation and they were more
than excited to say oh my gosh,it didn't work.
Oh my gosh, it didn't work, itdidn't work, it didn't work.
Here's what they had to say.
Speaker 6 (32:10):
Image that was that resulted from those US military
strikes on these three Iraniannuclear facilities over the
weekend and, as you said, it wasproduced by the Defense
Intelligence Agency, which isthe Pentagon's intelligence arm.
And it is worth noting that itis a very early assessment the
strikes were only a matter ofdays ago and the intelligence
community is still gatheringintelligence.
They are still working to comeup with a full, comprehensive
(32:32):
picture of what exactly happenedhere, but based on Okay.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
So, by the way, they looked at it 24 hours after it
was done.
They have no one on the ground.
They have no idea.
This is ridiculous.
Okay, it's clearly a cheap shottrying to take a shot at this.
And, by the way, they dropped14, 30,000 pound bombs down that
chap.
So calm down, like I mean,there, there is no way.
(32:56):
You're gonna be like, oh, I'lltry to dig through this for a
month and we're going to.
It's all going to be there.
It's going to be great.
That's ludicrous, of course not.
And, by the way, on the otherportion of this, where where's
all the where's all the uranium?
You don't think the Israelisknow where the uranium is.
The Israelis know what theAyatollah is doing before the
Ayatollah does.
Do you think they don't knowwhere the uranium is?
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They do.
They know where the uranium isguaranteed.
Okay, so, and I guarantee youwe know where the uranium is.
Okay, and I guarantee wedropped bombs on it, on it or
sealed it off or whatever it is.
But anyway, the point of this isridiculous.
Ok, it's 24 hours after youlook at it and go a couple of
months and they're going to beable to rebuild.
(33:38):
What are you talking about?
Like you don't have anybody onthe ground, you don't have any
clue.
Ok, so Pete Hegseth, today, onWednesday, he stood up after the
NATO summit with the presidentand started pushing back on all
of this and again, this is oneof those stories that will be
pulled off the table and it willbe not spoken of again once
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they figure out that it'scompletely and totally garbage.
There is no way you're droppingthose kind of ordinance on
something and like no problem atall, it didn't do anything.
That's not true.
Speaker 4 (34:08):
And here's what Hegseth had to say To introduce
and when they introduced thatpreliminary, a preliminary
report that's deemed to be low,a low assessment.
You know what a low assessmentmeans Low confidence in the data
in that report.
And why is there low confidence?
Because all of the evidence ofwhat was just bombed by 12,
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30,000 pound bombs is buriedunder a mountain, devastated and
obliterated.
So if you want to make anassessment of what happened at
Fordow, you better get a bigshovel and go really deep,
because Iran's nuclear programis obliterated and somebody
somewhere is trying to leaksomething to say oh, with low
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confidence, we think maybe it'smoderate.
Those that dropped the bombsprecisely in the right place
know exactly what happened whenthat exploded and you know who
else knows Iran.
That's why they came to thetable right away, because their
nuclear capabilities have beenset back beyond what they
thought were possible, becauseof the courage of a commander in
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chief who led our troopsdespite what the fake news wants
to say.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
OK, interesting, and I think he makes a fair point,
especially on the Iranians aswell.
It's ridiculous Like this is aridiculous leak, but it is
eating up a lot of oxygen.
Speaker 7 (35:23):
Oh yeah, people want to talk about it, and another
thing that people are kind of,you know, really interested in
right now so far, there's been11 Iranians that were here
illegally that have now beenarrested over the past few days
and are set to be deported, andone of them is an Iranian sniper
.
So let's take a listen to this.
Speaker 9 (35:40):
The Department of Homeland Security says Yusuf
Maradano had been living in theUnited States illegally for
nearly eight years since USofficials determined he lied on
a visa application.
On Sunday, just four monthsafter the Iranian foreign
national was added to the US'sknown or suspected terrorist
list, he was arrested in centralMississippi.
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He's now in ICE custody pendingremoval proceedings, and he's
not alone.
Over the past 48 hours, iceofficials have arrested 11
Iranian nationals, spanningeight states nationwide.
Among them, five possessedprevious criminal convictions,
their crimes ranging from grandlarceny to drug and firearm
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possessions.
Also among those apprehended,ribbar Karimi.
While arresting him in northernAlabama, ice officials say they
found his Islamic Republic ofIran Army Identification Card
and allege he served as anIranian sniper between 2018 and
2021.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
OK, I think that's the biggest concern the
government has.
It isn't necessarily with Iranfiring missiles back at any of
our bases or anything like that.
I think their ability to dothat has been significantly
degraded.
It is sleeper cells in theUnited States which there's no
real understanding of what'sgoing on with that, other than
nothing's happened yet.
(37:01):
Hopefully it won't, but there'sno question they're trying to
nail that sort of thing down andgo after it.
Speaker 7 (37:07):
Yeah, I mean I have friends that asked after our
last show.
You know what?
What do we think is going?
You know, do we think theIranian leadership is going to
actually have this big call outagainst the United States?
And obviously we don't knowthat.
Um, we think that'd be prettyfoolish based on the rough.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
I think that, that I think I would think you're
seeing a lot of those pathwaysbetween Tehran and some of their
proxies and some of theirsleeper cells or whatever they
are.
There's a loose connection, asit is by the nature of what a
sleeper cell is.
And then I think you're goingto see the Ayatollah.
I think would put himself ingrave danger by making some sort
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of call out for anything likethat.
So who knows what's reallygoing on here.
Is there any?
Speaker 7 (37:49):
other kind we love for anything like that.
So who knows what's reallygoing on here.
Brave danger, is there anyother kind?
We love a few good men, so ifyou, haven't seen it.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
You need to watch it, so we'll see what happens with
it.
I think the biggest concern Ithink most people have is
homeland attacks.
At this point it has nothappened.
Now, if you can get a dealbetween the Israelis and the
Iranians, can you maybe stopthat sort of thing?
I don't know, but but that isone of the things that's had.
A lot of different things on alot of different levels are
happening here, and so we'll seehow it all shakes out.
Speaker 7 (38:10):
Yeah, let's hope for the best, pray for the best,
okay.
So something just kind ofentertaining and a little bit
lighter maybe in your life whenwe were in Boston the verdict
came down for Karen Reed.
She is a former collegeprofessor that was accused of
killing her boyfriend, who was aBoston cop, and the verdict
came down.
We were in Boston, so it waslike it was a big deal there.
It was all over the newspapersall that.
(38:32):
And you know, we kind of youand I watched a little snippet
and we were like, oh, okay, likea little like news clip on like
60 minutes or something I don'tremember what it was and we
were like, ah, she's guilty.
And so we came back and I wastalking to my friend Debbie
about it and Debbie's like, oh,my gosh, chris, you have to at
least watch this documentary,this documentary that's on max
right now, okay, and I was like,no, I really don't the lady's
guilty.
And she said, no, just doyourself a solid.
(38:54):
It's such a well thought outdocumentary.
I watched the thing in two days.
Okay, it's riveting.
Yeah, it is so well puttogether.
It's five parts, if you'relooking, looking for something
interesting.
They just did a good job ofdiving right in.
They interviewed all the mediathat were there as well, as they
had direct access to Karen Reedand her attorneys.
(39:18):
It was just interesting, I guess, to listen to Right.
And so the documentary is abouther first trial, Her first
trial which ends in a mistrial,which, that's no mystery,
everybody knows her case over ayear ago.
They do give an update at theend of the documentary, but my
understanding is there's anotherdocumentary on Hulu that's
covering it in real time withthis second trial.
Speaker 2 (39:33):
Okay, and the second trial is the one where she was
found not guilty.
Speaker 7 (39:36):
Not guilty.
Speaker 2 (39:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (39:38):
Which she was acquitted on that and that kind
of made national news.
I mean it was everywhere.
They really built this big PRmachine around her.
I mean I've never-.
Speaker 2 (39:46):
It's unreal.
Speaker 7 (39:46):
Since, like the OJ trial I'm sure there's been
other ones, but the OJ one trialcomes to mind because it was
also televised.
You could also watch it andthere was people that stood
outside the courtroom.
She had a lot of fan base thatshowed up to support her, they
sure did.
And meanwhile we don't reallyknow anything.
(40:08):
Skimmed over it, it's afascinating story.
Speaker 2 (40:12):
And you now think what she did it or she didn't
just spray and I.
Speaker 7 (40:14):
I gotta say that, like I don't know if she did it,
I really was convinced that shehad done it.
Speaker 2 (40:22):
And this sounds like making of a murder, making a
murder.
I it can make you believewhatever they want.
Speaker 7 (40:26):
Okay, good point.
I mean I this is what I said tomy friend Debbie.
I said Occam's razor, right,like it's.
All the facts point to her,Right, who else would want to
kill the guy, right?
You know she, I don't think shedid it on purpose, I think it
was an accident, um, but youknow that have more to do with
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like a dog that was in thathouse that night and there was
police officers in the housethat he died in that.
He died in front of the frontlawn when they found him.
What stood out to me in this onelittle thing?
It's not giving anything away,but the cop that owns the house
where this other cop was founddead in the front yard.
When everybody showed up theambulance all the police,
everybody Karen Reed was therewith all her people.
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They're screaming, they'reyelling.
Is he dead?
Is he dead?
Is he okay?
All this ruckus?
That police officer that threwthat party the night before
stayed inside of his house.
He knew the guy, he was friendswith the guy and he never came
out to check on his friend or tocheck on the case.
To me that was weird.
Speaker 2 (41:30):
So I'm saying yeah, I don't even know what you're
talking about, but you haven'twatched it.
Speaker 7 (41:33):
Yeah, I'm telling you if you like court drama, or
even if you don't like courtdrama and you just like a good
story, it's fascinating, okay.
Speaker 2 (41:39):
So check it out.
Well, good, well, thank, I willsay yeah, thanks, all right,
now it's time for the importantsegment, which is my game camera
segment.
So I want to start.
Two days ago I had some rainthe night before up in the
mountains and these cameras areall in Angel Fire at about
10,500 feet or so, way up highin the mountains.
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And so early morning, and mygood friend, look at this big
fella.
Speaker 7 (42:05):
Have you named them yet?
Speaker 2 (42:06):
I have not.
So this is one of the.
This is a big.
Speaker 7 (42:12):
I think this is the big male the big male bear that
kind of is around the area.
There's a height control.
Speaker 2 (42:14):
Very misty, very misty, very misty, and he just
kind of walks across and he kindof lumbers into the woods and
so he gets that done.
Now he, this guy's younger,this guy I think is about two
years old and you can see hiscoloring's a little bit
different See him taking a rock.
I think he's just taking a rockthere opening up, trying to get
some grub, worms or somethingout of there.
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And then he looked and said, oh, there's nothing, so he's going
to go walking off.
So he looks pretty healthythough.
Yeah, he doesn it I totally get.
But but again, these guys younever see them in the same place
, uh, but that now I did see the, the second bear, with his mom
about six months ago.
They were all together, but nowthey're apart.
Now I think she's kicked themout she's like listen, it's,
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you're out.
Speaker 7 (42:56):
You showed me a clip of one of these and there was
four bears.
Oh, I've got all kinds of stuffI made two, you're right.
Speaker 2 (43:02):
I probably should do a greatest hits version of my
show games.
Speaker 5 (43:06):
But this is just this week.
Speaker 2 (43:07):
This is all just this week.
All right, wally coyote uh,he's out, he was.
He's walking down.
See, there he is.
He's walking away from thecamera.
Okay, and I'm not sure whathe's doing in the pond here.
A little uh thing here.
I'm not sure if he's uhrelieving himself right there or
something.
Speaker 7 (43:21):
I can't really tell riveting guy.
Speaker 6 (43:23):
Well, you know I just want to keep an eye on it yeah,
and one more.
Speaker 2 (43:26):
This is a good looking young bull elk, which
this camera is a little furtherout, so I have to hike a ways to
get it.
But this is after a littlehailstorm so you can see the
hail on the ground there andhe's a good looking bull elk.
You can see the rack on himgrowing in there, looking good.
Yeah, he's just like all rightthere.
I go.
Speaker 7 (43:43):
He stopped to pose a little bit for you.
Speaker 2 (43:45):
He did and I appreciate it.
So again, I got a lot going onwith these cameras.
I'm going to continue tomonitor them and as we get more
stuff in, I'm going to keepshowing you and if I get enough
good stuff I'll do it.
Every show I'll do it, oh gosh.
Speaker 7 (43:58):
I will do it Okay, people write in.
Speaker 2 (44:12):
Do you want to see game camera clips every show, or
maybe once a month, or likemaybe once every six months?
Yeah, nope, nope, nope.
Every show every day, all right, well, thanks so much for
joining us.
We appreciate it.
We will be back with you on.
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all right, all right, here we go.
Um okay, quick, uh quick uhupdate on what's going on in the
show.
Here we're gonna have some uhviewer comments yes and then
we're gonna get to, um, oh lord,some local politics.
uh, actually a a little DCaction, a New Mexico
(00:26):
representative covering herselfin glory, in a way that just is
heartbreaking, honestly, and thereason I say that is because,
as a kid who grew up in a familywhere we loved talking politics
and you revered people, thatserved even growing up like I
was and we, I was in a couple ofcampaign ads for the governor
(00:48):
of the state of Vermont wholived next to us, yeah, yeah,
dick Snelling.
Speaker 5 (00:52):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
And but, but.
And then he ran for Senateagainst Pat Leahy and Pat Leahy
is an institution in the Senateand it was tough to beat Pat
Leahy.
I don't know why he ran againsthim, but either way, whatever.
But you respected Pat Leahy atthe time as a kid because you're
like man.
That's a really big job andit's a big deal.
Speaker 6 (01:07):
Right.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
You know, it's really an important thing.
And there were senators fromother parts of the country and
you know, no matter what youthought of them, you know,
politically you're like, wow,that means something.
Speaker 7 (01:17):
Right, right.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
And I worry, now that we're now we're in this of of
show horses in Congress which,by the way, both sides have been
guilty of it.
But the problem is, here in NewMexico we have someone who has
decided she's going full showhorse and it's embarrassing to
watch, especially when you'renot good at being a show horse.
Like it's one thing.
If you're a good show horse,you're like dang, that's a good
show horse, right there.
Aoc is a good show horse.
Right, she's a show horse, noquestion about it?
Speaker 7 (01:40):
I'm not sure I'd like to say good.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
No, no, no.
No.
I don't mean good on herpolitical views or anything else
.
I'm not talking about that.
I'm talking about beingeffective at being a show horse.
Speaker 5 (01:49):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
And that's not I don't say that as a compliment,
I just say it as a fact Likeshe's one of those people that
is effective at doing that sortof thing.
Okay, matt Gates was good at it, he was an effective show horse
.
So, in other words, you wouldhave him show up, he'd throw out
these comments and be all youknow, work his little thing, get
his little viral moment andthen off he goes, like where's
the important?
You know, actual work you'redoing for the people.
(02:11):
Wow, we don't know where thatis.
That doesn't exist, don't worryabout that.
But he's a good show horse.
But we've got the that.
We're going to take the latestlook at Deb Holland's latest
campaign effort, which we'regoing to take a quick look at.
We're going to get back intothe Israel ceasefire real quick
stuff there.
Where are we on that whole deal?
(02:33):
Uh, you're going to talk abouta piece of programming that you
loved.
Speaker 7 (02:37):
Well, I thought it was interesting.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Okay.
Speaker 7 (02:39):
Yeah, I think it's worth.
You know, I always like tolisten to like.
I listen to podcasts and I lovewhen they recommend either
books or shows to watch.
I think that's kind of fun.
So I always like, when I watchsomething or hear something, I
always kind of throw it out andsay, hey, let's.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Right.
Speaker 7 (02:52):
Let's, let's talk, tell people.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Yeah, yeah, no, it's very good.
So a news topic, yes, and Ihave a new segment that every
show from now on.
Well, no, at least once, Ishouldn't say that once a week
no I'm doing it once.
Speaker 7 (03:05):
I'm sorry once a month.
I'll let you do it once.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
No, I'm doing it once a week, you know what people
you write in.
Speaker 7 (03:09):
Tell us if you want this, this new segment, once a
month or every show yep, yeah,yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
No, I'm thinking once a week and it's called.
You're gonna make me make likea uh a graphic for it yeah,
we're gonna do a graphic and,like dude, yeah, we'll do a
little music with it, and it'scalled mark's game cameras.
What did mark catch on the gamecameras this week?
Speaker 7 (03:27):
oh my god, you know what the sound effect's gonna be
.
What me snoring.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Oh stop, it's very except people are gonna love
this are they?
Though we got some pretty goodanimals this week I understand,
I get the.
Speaker 7 (03:37):
I mean, I was talking to a girlfriend of mine today.
Uh, jessica, she also watches alocal game camera here in new
mexico well, that's what this is.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
It's an angel and I was like what are you?
Speaker 7 (03:48):
you and mark should hang out and watch your game
camera videos, put it on, justdrink it in oh my gosh yeah,
it's fantastic.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
No, jessica's right, I'm in the documentary stuff I'm
watching.
I'm watching that, that's whatwe're gonna talk about some
incredible stuff, so we'll getinto it please, please, write in
and tell us does market to dothis segment every?
Month.
Well, hold on, watch thesegment.
It's the end of the show oronce a show let's, let's, let
the segment air and breathefirst.
Would you stop trying to snuffout the segment before it even
starts?
All right, all right, let's gowith some viewer feedback some
(04:16):
comments that we got from thelast show.
Speaker 7 (04:18):
Okay, raccoon little bear said another great show and
a very brave guest, meaningPeyton McNabb.
She was on our last show, somake sure you, if you guys want
to listen in, you can check outour last show.
President Trump made the rightcall on the airstrike.
Nice to see Ella gettinginvolved more in the show as
well.
Blessings to you all.
Ella.
A little shout out for Ella.
I never get shout outs, so I do, I shot comments, is what I'm
(04:40):
saying comments is what I'msaying.
Speaker 8 (04:44):
Actually.
You do get some shout outs.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
So if people want to start leaving comments about me.
I will read them.
Once you get, once you get totaste of the uh, oh, she's like
I gotta taste of the love fromme.
Speaker 7 (04:50):
She's gonna be over here sitting in our third oh,
absolutely, just adding herlittle we're gonna be hiring
another producer here prettysoon yes okay, uh, harold m said
mark and christy did anexcellent job interviewing your
guests, which again was patemcnabb.
She was comfortable throughoutthe interview and answered all
questions thoroughly.
Great job on both parties.
Kudos, thanks, harold.
Yeah, she was a.
She was, yeah, absolutely greatkid yep um.
And then jennifer fuentes I hadto do this one.
(05:11):
She actually wrote a reallyserious comment, but I I just
took this part of it because Ithought it was so funny.
Okay, uh, nice, change up withthe button down mark gives the
impression that you're even moreknowledgeable and trustworthy,
with a little smiley face well,and and j then look at you today
.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Yeah, I know what you got going.
Here's the problem.
I didn't have time to shower ordo anything through the hat on,
changed from a workout and I'mjust here right now.
I'm so sorry about that,jennifer, and so the credibility
right back down again rightback down, Cause you, you know.
I mean I try to show up everyday for our people.
Like today you were.
You were look like you'reheaded out on some sort of Greek
cruise, which I'm loving itright now.
(05:45):
It's a fantastic look.
Speaker 7 (05:46):
Here's the thing about Mark and his comments Like
did you just hear that one?
I'm going on a Greek cruise.
That's Mark's idea of acompliment everybody.
So I mean I'd like to be goingon a great cruise.
Don't get me wrong, I wouldthink it'd be fabulous.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
I wasn't dressing to, oh, okay.
Speaker 7 (05:59):
Thanks, thanks we do have to talk about compliments
sometime with our, with ourfolks, cause Mark gave me this
compliment he thinks it's acompliment which was actually
really funny on our trip.
Uh, we visited Cape Cod uh, acouple of weeks ago and I came
out and I knew in my head, whenI was putting on this cream
sweater and these like khakipants, I'm like Mark's going to
say, oh, he's got, she's got herCape Cod outfit on.
(06:21):
Like I knew what he was goingto say.
I come out.
Literally this is the firstthing he comes out of his mouth.
He's like oh, look at you andyour little Cape Cod outfit.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
I thought it looked very nice.
Speaker 7 (06:31):
Yeah, but that's not what you said.
Well, that's what I meant.
You're like, just like you havea title for all of my outfits
yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
So I think to start with a little breakdown here Now
, this you probably rememberfrom the State of the Union, or
really, it's not the State ofthe Union.
It's the first one a presidentgives in its term.
It's just kind of an update.
But either way, you can seeStansberry standing there with
the sign saying this is notnormal.
Okay, performative politics uh,this has nothing to do with
anything other than trying totroll and get attention right,
(07:12):
and you see these sorts ofthings from her increasing in in
volume, in number, that shejust regularly does these little
things where she's justperformative and so, which is
which is fine.
There are people who do that,and there's again, as I said
before, there's some people whoare good at it.
She's not particularly good atit, but let's just listen to
(07:32):
this one.
This is she was on she's on oneof the Doge subcommittees and
she talked about what's going onwith Elon Musk and decided to
try to make a pop culturereference.
Speaker 8 (07:44):
This is one of the most unpopular domestic and
global policy agendas in modernhistory and they're here trying
to convince you all that weshould make Doge permanent.
But here's the thing the GOPmay continue to try to make Doge
a thing, but no matter how hardthey keep trying, gop will
(08:04):
never make Doge a thing.
But no matter how hard theykeep trying, gop will never make
doge happen, even with theirregina george out of the picture
that's mr elon musk in thisscenario.
Americans just aren't buyingtickets to this show and, just
like the movie business houserepublicans, doge reboot isn't
hitting like they thought itwould okay, I, I don't, I don't
know, that I don't know thatmovie I do, but I still.
Speaker 7 (08:26):
Even I that falls flat right, right, okay.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
So yeah, no question, right, and I I don't, I don't
know about mean girls, whatever,but but the point being in all
this, trying to create someweird kind of the first of all,
the whole doge, thing, by theway, mean girls isn't like pop
culture right now.
Speaker 7 (08:41):
It's like a 12 year old movie, or 15 year old movie
too.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
So true, true, yeah, yeah, no, no, no, true, I but,
but I even even beyond that,right, it's just you watch it
and go.
Are you serious?
Like, what are we doing?
You go and print out some hugepicture of a couple of Hollywood
actresses with some subtitlememes, whatever, okay, and and
you're you're arguing againstgovernment accountability,
whatever too.
(09:04):
Like I don't even care abouther point, but you just kind of
watch it and go, okay, it'sclownery.
You're doing this more and more.
It seems to be your thing, andshe's got these people in her
staff that, I'm sure, tellingher this is it?
People are loving this, they'reloving what you're doing.
Now.
Can you name one substantivething that melanie stansbury has
done for the people of thestate of New Mexico?
(09:25):
And the answer is not no, youcan't, because this is all
acting, this is play acting.
Speaker 7 (09:30):
Well, and she also keep in mind that she also came
back to the state, did thesetown hall tours to tell
everybody that Social Securitywas going to be cut and so is
your Medicaid.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Yeah, we're still waiting for that to happen.
Speaker 7 (09:39):
I mean, that's what she was doing as of a couple
weeks ago.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Right doing as of a couple of weeks ago.
So right, yeah, no, absolutelyso.
So we lay all this groundworkto say that it's happened again.
So she decided that she's goingto get some more attention, and
so and I thought this was an AIgenerated picture, what I'm
about to show you I thought itwas like, oh well, that's
clearly AI.
She didn't do this.
This is dumb.
She wouldn't do this.
Let's take a look at thepicture.
Here it is.
Now.
She says how do you rate thework of Elon Musk?
And Doge, okay.
And she goes okay.
(10:08):
Now, by the way, it does notcite the sourcing on any of this
by the way 67%.
disapprove 38, approve five.
Don't know.
Now, I am no mathematician,okay, and believe me, I, I, I'm,
I'm, I'm.
I'm not even going to rip intothe mistake.
Go ahead, put the picture backup, add the numbers.
Yeah, it's 110%.
(10:29):
Okay, so she's wrong on thenumbers.
Now, just so you know.
You know, in in all of this,the staff for a congressional
member is around 18 people.
Just so you know, she is notworking alone by herself in an
office coming up with thesethings doing right
yeah, sitting there gluing it on.
Yeah, I'll get the glue stickout.
Let's put the numbers on here.
(10:49):
Right, she's not doing that.
She has a staff of 18 peopleroughly.
Some of them are back in newmexico, clearly, and then some
are back in dc.
Speaker 7 (10:56):
My guess is you probably have five, six, seven
people with eyes on this yeahnone of them pick it up right,
none of them get it she doesn'teven bother, shows us the future
of our, of our people, becausethey're usually young people
that are staffers well, right,right so you see it.
What does that say?
Speaker 2 (11:10):
if you start at it and you look at it, you go okay
common core math, everybodycommon core math yeah, I mean
you would and maybe that's theproblem right, add all the
columns up.
Even if you add all themcolumns up, come up with 110
right but, but anyway.
So she looks at this right, orclearly doesn't look at it, and
I guarantee you there's astaffer who got shredded for
this.
But if you're going to be agrandstander like this and
(11:33):
you're going to go in, you'regoing to put up this huge sign.
You dang well, better, look atthat number and add it up in
your own head.
And she didn't.
Ok, it happens.
So I'm still forgiving of thisstuff because I make stupid
mistakes all the time and Ithink we need to be
understanding of those sorts ofthings.
Okay, but you know, there's somemedia groups that got on our
media, which is by no means aright-wing group.
(11:53):
They said watch a Democrattrots out placard and the house
hearing with a glaring matherror promptly gets dunked on by
Marjorie Taylor green.
You'll hear that in just asecond.
And then OutKick Clay Travis'sgroup says House Democrat Rep
Melanie Stansbury shows pollwith an obvious error.
Okay, so my biggest problemwith this isn't even, it's not
the math, it's not the mistake.
(12:14):
People make mistakes andunfortunately in this day and
age, when you make a mistake youget dunked on.
That's how it happens.
Okay, my problem is the way shehandled being called out for it
and she was called out for it,and so I want you to listen to
what she says, and then I'll getyour reaction on how you think
she handled it.
Speaker 5 (12:31):
The poll behind you, behind our ranking member, it
adds up to 110%.
Just wanted to clarify.
Is it meant to add up to 110%or is that an error?
Do you yield?
Yeah, I do.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
This is from a Quinnipiac poll that was held
two weeks ago, and this is thedata that was provided.
There's a wealth of information, including information about
Donald Trump's falling pollnumbers, so you should take a
look.
Speaker 6 (12:54):
Thanks, I yield back information about donald trump's
falling poll numbers so youshould take a look.
Thanks, uh, the gentlemanyields and it still adds up to
110.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
That's a fake poll right there that's marjorie
taylor green, adding in herlittle two cents.
Speaker 7 (13:06):
So thoughts well, number one, what's the name of
the poll?
Again, quinnipiac?
Uh, okay, and then, and so shedoubles down on on it, which is
interesting move.
And then she's like, oh, and weall that.
That same polling place.
They also have informationabout Donald Trump's numbers.
You should read them up, shouldwe Cause?
Clearly, if this is the bullnumbers they gave you for this
(13:26):
one, I'm not sure I'd betweeting them a little bit.
I would not be giving them alot of coverage.
So again it's like why couldshe not?
I think I just don't think itgenerated in her head fast
enough, I think even when theycalled her out on 110% no idea
she's like I don't even knowwhat that means.
Like I really feel like she waslike no, I'm all about this
poll and everybody hates Doge,and da, da, da, da, da.
Like I think that's what she?
was like that's where hermindset was at and she wasn't
(13:50):
that up for common sense, likejust to be able to slow down and
be like, okay, yeah, thatactually is probably going to be
a hundred percent Like shecould have made a joke about it.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
Here's my opinion on that.
I think you're, you're, you're,I think you're right on, on, on
.
Maybe it didn't register orwhatever else, but you're right
(14:20):
on.
There's only one way to handlethat to make a joke and then be
like, yeah, it got me there.
Sorry, I mean, it's the onlyshow some humility, right.
Make a joke about it and thenmove on.
But this is the problem, you'vegot a bad show horse, right?
So then, when the show horsegets called out in the middle of
dressage, you know and you'relike the dressage routine is not
working out, show horse.
And then the show horse meltsdown and just goes oh yeah,
donald Trump.
(14:41):
You just watch it and go.
There are literally peopleacross this state who struggled
to get to the end of the month.
We have one of the mostchallenging healthcare systems
in the country.
We are last in education andthat's not ironic,
representative Sandsbury, you'reunfortunately a little
emblematic of it.
You see all those things andall the struggles people have in
this state and you're mostconcerned with creating as much
(15:04):
of a viral moment as you can, asoften as you can, and it's an
embarrassment to the people youserve.
Of true core values, aboutcaring about the people you
represent, I would think you'dpivot and say I got to be better
than this.
There are a lot of people whogrind it out every day, trusting
that I will go to Washington DCand fight for them in a
(15:26):
meaningful way, not in a waywhere you show you know Rachel
McAdams on a board at acongressional hearing.
I mean not in a way that youput up numbers that don't even
add up.
Not in a way that you stand andhold a sign next to the
president.
Nobody cares about any of that.
Grow up and do a job, but nowthat's politics.
(15:47):
It's now become thisperformative nightmare where
nobody seems to care that thereare people who genuinely need
help and they're not getting it.
Speaker 7 (15:58):
Yeah, she, she just appears to me to be trying to
film like a reality show forInstagram.
Like that's what it feels likeit feels like I want to create
Tik TOKs and Instagram reels andthis is the best way.
I know how to do it and I haveno idea who's giving her these
great ideas.
Like I just feel like you comeoff completely unserious about
major league issues and it islike, as you've listed all the
(16:21):
things that our state are reallytroubled with it.
It becomes a combination ofjust not only somebody who's
just inadequate for the job, butshe looks foolish and she's
embarrassing our state.
Like that's an embarrassmentand she should be embarrassed.
Like she should say I need todo better.
I need to figure out how to betaking this job more seriously
and not being a clown for thesake of Instagram and thinking
(16:43):
I'm cute and I'm funny and lookat me, I'm a big influencer and
this will get me more votes andmaybe more popularity in my
state and then I'll get morepeople to vote for my reelection
.
I mean, I, that's to me.
What she's focusing on is Iwant to be a name that people
remember and meanwhile, youdon't want to be a name that
people go oh that's, she's.
A clown Like this is.
(17:03):
She's equal to an absolute fool.
She makes a fool out of herself, and I just think that we got
to do better and we got to dobetter in the people that we
elect to go there.
We need people that take thisjob seriously.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
No, and I agree, and you see it on both sides too.
I mean Marjorie Taylor Greene,who was ripping into her, she
does the same stuff.
I know her clownery isridiculous too, and so you know.
That's why it hits closer tohome, because she's our
representative here and we seeit and go.
Where are we here?
You know this is.
(17:38):
You have such a gulf betweenthe life that these people in
Congress lead and the lives ofthe people on the ground in
their districts.
They just don't care that.
They see this as exactly whatyou said is another way to
influence, and not influence ina positive way, where you make
legislation which matters.
You influence it in ameaningless way, where you get
on Tik TOK and you get the Yasqueen routine Okay,
congratulations, but there'sstill people that are struggling
(18:01):
in your district thatconstantly give you their vote
and they get nothing for it.
Speaker 7 (18:05):
Yeah, it just feels like theory, like I'm in.
I'm in the high school studentcouncil or the middle school
student council.
What can I do to wow peopletoday?
How can I, you know, shake themup?
I'm going to wear pink at allmy events.
I'm going to get my megaphone.
I'm going to have a town hallmeeting in front of whatever I.
Just she's tired and it shelooks like a kid.
She looks at and she's actinglike a child and.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
I, I'm over it, so hopefully voters get over her
too, and by the way, if you'rewaiting for the Albuquerque
Journal to do a story on this,because if it were, oh, you're
going to hear nothing.
You're going to hear nothingfrom any of the television
stations, no, nothing.
Speaker 7 (18:41):
Nobody's going to cover this.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
Yeah, Now if you had had this, been a Republican
setup and done that, oh my gosh,it'd be everywhere.
Yeah, a shocking error.
How embarrassing is this.
How did it happen?
Let's check in with you know.
None of that will happen.
None, and that's part of theproblem that there is no
accountability for any of theselegislators anymore, so they
don't care.
There is no shame because thereis no accountability.
Speaker 7 (19:04):
And again, if somebody just asked her right
right there and said hey, soyou're just, you're for fraud
and abuse and waste in ourprogram, like that's what you're
sitting here promoting, likeyou and your sign, that's
ridiculous.
You still completely don'tunderstand what the process of
Doge was all about.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Well, yeah, that's another point.
She pushed back, though, andsaid that's not the way to do it
and everything else, but yeah.
Speaker 7 (19:23):
Speaking of, not a way to do it.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
All right, so yeah.
So I was finding stuff for theshow and I found Deb Holland
visited Taos.
Oh jeez.
Speaker 7 (19:36):
I'm sure she met with the people and she learned
about what they needed to havedone there and their real
concerns and I'm sure that shespent a lot of time talking to
people about their issues, right.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Well, yeah, I mean sort of.
I mean, well, let's wait andsee.
So this is interesting.
So let's listen to a little bit.
It's a little over a minute andwe're going to listen to what
Deb has to say about what herday was like, and and then we'll
react to it.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
Okay to say about what her day was like, and then
we'll react to it.
Good morning, new Mexico.
Spend a day of my life with mein Taos.
I started my day with youngpeople and tribal leaders at
Taos Pueblo.
It wouldn't be a stop in Taoswithout a stop at Monty's Chow
Cart.
The red chili beans and a tacogave me the energy I needed to
visit local businesses and meetwith communities.
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I stopped at ReThreadsConsignment, a local thrift
store.
I tried on a few differentthings, but settled on a dress,
a sweater and a summer jacket.
The team and I walked throughthe plaza and greeted New
Mexicans enjoying live music andenjoying the sunshine.
Then I stopped by World CupCoffee and met a local artist.
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Thanks to him, we discoveredthe Taos Artist.
Collective.
Speaker 5 (20:38):
New.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
Mexico's creative and entrepreneurial spirit holds up
local economies and I was proudto meet an artist I've been a
fan of for years and discovernew artists and their work.
My trip was complete with achance to hear from the Taos
Valley Asequia Association Alittle bit of water.
Speaker 5 (20:53):
I'm so grateful to them for the work they do to
protect our water and continueour New Mexico traditions.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
I am home when I'm surrounded by people who have so
much love for their communityand culture.
Tau Senos and I ended ourevening chatting about issues
that affect our beautiful state.
I'm so excited to continuehearing from more New Mexicans.
Speaker 7 (21:14):
Okay, thank you so much, she says she says goodbye,
okay, I'm sorry is she runningfor governor or is she trying to
be a travel influencer?
Because it's like a.
It's like travel influencersthey tell you where they ate for
lunch, they tell you where theyshop, they tell you where they
go to get the best art likethat's a travel influencer or a
blogger.
That's not somebody who'srunning for governor.
Seriously, yeah, you neverwould like.
(21:36):
And then we stopped in here andwe did this and I I picked out
a tie, by the way look, I Ididn't win either, so so, so
hold on.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
So so I'm saying okay , so I agree as a general rule,
I think it's too soft okaythat's an understatement yeah,
and it's not her strong suit,isn't that sort of thing.
So here's.
So if you're her campaign staff, I think you've got to.
First of all, it was pretty hamfistedly produced.
Speaker 7 (22:02):
Oh, it's terrible.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
And you can find someone with all the money she's
raising.
You can find someone who canedit off their phone and and do
a better job of of that workthan what you saw.
Speaker 7 (22:12):
Our producer could do that better.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
Well, that's a good point, but Ella may sabotage her
at a certain point.
So that may not be great, but Ithink you can do a better job
of the production value of it.
But I will tell you, I thinkwhat she's trying to do and get
ready for this, it is herapproach is going to be that
connect on a cultural level andstay away from deep issues and
deep dives and things like that.
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Now, if I were given her advice, I'd say okay, you need to put
a little more meat in this, justa little bit, not a ton,
because I think the overallpoint is connect culturally.
That's what she's going to haveto do.
She cannot go out there andgrind policy down.
It's not her deal.
So I but I was a little, Ithought it was interesting, I
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mean.
I was I watched it and just kindof went holy macaroni, Like I
just was watching it.
Well, I mean, okay.
Speaker 7 (23:00):
So you know what's interesting is.
I had a conversation withsomebody who listens to our show
and said you know, they, theyfeel like we need more people
that are running for office thattalk about the great things of
New Mexico instead of all thebad.
Okay, yeah, which I thought wasan interesting point.
Cause I'm like well, you do wantsomebody that sees the energy
and the hope and the beauty andthe future of New Mexico, but
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you also need to find somebodywho takes our our problems
seriously and has real solutionsto fix those problems.
So I kind of I kind of was likeI see where you're going with
us to the to this viewer.
But I also said, you know, Ibelieve there can be a
combination.
We had plenty of great mealsand had plenty of great you know
took in certain things pie town, certain areas of the state
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that they wanted to show us whatthey did and how they celebrate
being a special little spot ofNew Mexico.
There's nothing wrong with anyof that.
But you also need to be meetingwith people who are desperate
for change and want real thingsto happen and you need to be
taking the job seriously.
I just feel like she looks likea travel blogger and I think I
know she's trying to findconnection and she's we've
talked about she's going to havea hard time connecting with
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people because she's not a greatcommunicator, right?
I mean, I'm sorry if you messup that many times just in a
voiceover.
Have her redo it.
It was a minute long.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
Well, so I I'm sure that the thought process is on
that the old they're starting tobe this new thing where you
don't have to be perfect, right,and you can have a little thing
in there, cause it's supposedto be real quick.
But the problem is the natureof what they did didn't end up
looking real quick.
They put, they rolled B, rollover the top of it, things like
that.
So once you start doing thosethings, you're right, clean it
up, it up.
Right, clean it up.
Just, you got to cut out hererrors and things like that and
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you've got to be moreprofessional.
Speaker 7 (24:36):
You're going for a professional job.
I mean, I'm sorry, but like, atthe end of the day, yes, you
want people that can connectwith you, but you feel that
authenticity when you meetsomebody and when you know you.
You either have thatconnectivity or you don't.
And we've talked about that.
Some people are just naturallygifted that can connect with
people either across a camera,can connect with them on stage,
can connect with them one-on-onewith people.
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You're either born with thatgift or you're not.
Now it sometimes matters inelections and sometimes it
doesn't.
So it'll be interesting to see.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Right, well, that's just what I mean.
Like you've got to keep herseparated, right, you have to
run a very, very disciplinedcampaign for her, and part of
that is what you can watch onthis video.
Like you just have some someyou know some connection
problems there, which to yourpoint, but at the same time,
does this worry you then, as youwatch something like this, does
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this, when you look at for thatcampaign, to say, does this
make you think, okay, who knowsreally where we are in this
governor's race?
Because this is, this is toughto watch to me.
Speaker 7 (25:35):
This would show me, like all, if you're her people.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
Are you scared right now?
They're watching that, or doyou not care?
Speaker 7 (25:40):
oh no, they clearly don't care, because they're
producing this stuff likethey're putting the stuff out
there and they're shelling moneyher way and they're like, oh,
look how she seems like a niceperson and I'm just like, okay,
like I get that.
There's some ability that youneed to find connection with
people and i'm'm sure she's beentold that she's thrifting
clothes, things like that.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
I think that's designed to, you know, bridge
that gap.
Oh, I'm sure, Show that she'sone of the people that kind of
thing, whatever.
Speaker 7 (26:01):
Okay, but you either are one of the people or you're
not.
Like I don't know if you needto video all that.
You know, like you, I don'tknow.
I just think that that seems ina anybody that's going to be
running for governor to me.
When I look at something likethat, I think she doesn't take
this job seriously enough.
Now, maybe it's wrong, but Ithink that you, you, know, even
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our current governor gets a lotof flack for all the travel she
does and all these meetings thatshe has outside of the state,
right, so she gets destroyed onX every time she's out of the
state or out of the country.
Right, this to me looks like doyou know what the job even
entails to be governor, like Ithink fine, if you want to work
some of this in on top of actualall your serious stuff, that
you're managing things andyou're talking to these people
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about water rights.
You're talking to these peopleabout logging rights.
You're talking to these peopleabout all the other issues,
education issues.
I just don't see that she'sdoing building up her
credibility enough to be able tocome in here and have hey, I'm
going shopping and eating sometacos.
I don't think there's enough tobalance that out yet.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
All right, all right.
Well, this is one video too, sowe don't want to judge
everything on that, but but yeah, no, I was a little.
I think the quality of whatneeds to be put out needs to be
a little better than than whatyou're seeing there, and I think
you better.
You better craft her image moretightly than they are.
I will say that's my bigtakeaway from this craft her
image more tightly.
If you want to be a seriouscandidate or our boy, you know,
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showboat Sam is going to eat herup and then I'm going to look
really stupid If if showboat Samends up getting the nomination
for the Democrats.
Speaker 7 (27:30):
Well I that that will floor me as well.
So yeah, I don't think it'llhappen.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
I actually don't think it'll happen, but again,
I've said that very clearly it'snot happening but, okay, all
right, so let's get to theceasefire situation.
All right, so there is aceasefire in the Israel Iran
conflict.
The 12 day war is Trump'scalling it now.
Uh, so they get to this.
And then in Trump, you know,heading to to to NATO.
A day ago he was on the SouthLawn and getting ready to hop on
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Marine One and he got spicy.
He got spicy because he was madat Israel and he's mad at Iran
for shooting each other,shooting at each other.
He wants his ceasefire to hold.
Speaker 7 (28:08):
And so, yeah, well, it was moments after that he
called for that.
He said that the ceasefire washappening, they're both on board
, and then Israel went afterIran and Iran fired back.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
Well, yeah, this is the next morning, yeah.
Speaker 7 (28:17):
And it got it, but he did get.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
But he dropped his own bomb no-transcript.
Speaker 4 (28:24):
You know what?
We basically have two countriesthat have been fighting so long
and so hard that they don'tknow what the they're doing.
Do you understand?
Speaker 5 (28:33):
that.
Speaker 7 (28:35):
Johnny, I mean bleep.
You know I get that he'sfrustrated.
I do understand it, and I'msure that every president has
had a truck driver mouth fromtime to time.
I'm just not sure it was thebest use to do that just on, you
know, television.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
Well, you know, yeah, that's definitely gotten some,
some interest, but I will sayoverall, I think he likes the
position he's in.
Cbs news came out with a newpoll.
There are 85% of RepublicansOkay, uh, approve of what he's
done.
Speaker 7 (29:08):
94% of quote MAGA Republicans I don't even know
what that means I was going tosay how do you even determine if
you're a Republican or a MAGA?
Speaker 2 (29:14):
Well, they probably ask you are, you MAGA, and then
they say yes or no, and so yeah,the numbers are very strong
with his own, you know, with hisown side on this, and so you
know, we'll wait and see.
But I think the interestingthing about this isn't
necessarily Trump's reaction tothe to to the ceasefire, which
again, it looks like it'sholding for now, so that's good.
(29:34):
What's happened now issomething I think is far more
interesting, and you saw anarticle in the Wall Street
Journal.
New York Times put outsomething on it.
So did CNN, breathlesslywanting so badly for something
to go poorly, and they'velatched onto this.
Speaker 7 (29:48):
Yeah, it says US strikes set back Iran nuclear
program by a few months.
Initial report says Preliminaryclassified intelligence report
produced by the DefenseIntelligence Agency counters
White House's claim of moreextensive damage.
And basically here's a quotefrom it.
It says a preliminaryintelligence report found that
the US military strikes lastweekend on three Iranian nuclear
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facilities only set backTehran's nuclear ambitions by a
few months, countering claimsmade by President Trump and the
White House.
According to people familiarwith the intelligence, the
initial findings written by theDefense Intelligence Agency
relied on military damageassessments following the US
bombings, the people said,adding that the assessment could
change as more intelligence iscollected.
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A senior administrationofficial confirmed the report's
existence but said it hadn'trisen to the level of being
shared with the DefenseDepartment's top leaders.
Several members of Congress,including full committees, have
seen or have had access to thereport.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
lawmakers said Okay, so just so, you know, first of
all, this is clearly leaked bysomebody who wants to do some
damage to what's happened.
You know, um, first of all,this is clearly leaked by
somebody who wants to do somedamage, uh, to what's happened
here.
Now.
Now, the pushback on this hasbeen swift in.
In this is, by the way, therewill be a backtracking of this
story guaranteed, and I'llexplain why in just a second.
But let's keep going.
Speaker 7 (31:00):
So this quote says us intelligence agencies
frequently produce classifiedreports that are later revised,
sometimes substantially, as moreinformation is collected.
Such reports don't necessarilyreflect the views of other spy
agencies and disagreement amongthe agencies isn't uncommon.
Caroline Levitt, the WhiteHouse press secretary, said in a
post on X that the quotealleged assessment is flat out
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wrong end quote and describedthe report as classified at the
top secret level.
She blamed a quote anonymouslow-level loser in the
intelligence community end quotefor leaking the report to the
media.
Cnn earlier reported on theassessment.
The Office of the Director ofNational Intelligence, which
oversees all intelligenceagencies in the US government,
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declined to comment.
The Defense Intelligence Agencydidn't respond to requests for
comment.
The report contradictsstatements from Trump, who has
repeatedly said that the targetsof the raids were destroyed.
Quote those targets wereobliterated, he said Tuesday
morning.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
Okay, so here's how CNN reported this.
When they got a hold of theinformation and they were more
than excited to say oh my gosh,it didn't work.
Oh my gosh, it didn't work, itdidn't work, it didn't work.
Here's what they had to say.
Speaker 6 (32:10):
Image that was that resulted from those US military
strikes on these three Iraniannuclear facilities over the
weekend and, as you said, it wasproduced by the Defense
Intelligence Agency, which isthe Pentagon's intelligence arm.
And it is worth noting that itis a very early assessment the
strikes were only a matter ofdays ago and the intelligence
community is still gatheringintelligence.
They are still working to comeup with a full, comprehensive
(32:32):
picture of what exactly happenedhere, but based on Okay.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
So, by the way, they looked at it 24 hours after it
was done.
They have no one on the ground.
They have no idea.
This is ridiculous.
Okay, it's clearly a cheap shottrying to take a shot at this.
And, by the way, they dropped14, 30,000 pound bombs down that
chap.
So calm down, like I mean,there, there is no way.
(32:56):
You're gonna be like, oh, I'lltry to dig through this for a
month and we're going to.
It's all going to be there.
It's going to be great.
That's ludicrous, of course not.
And, by the way, on the otherportion of this, where where's
all the where's all the uranium?
You don't think the Israelisknow where the uranium is.
The Israelis know what theAyatollah is doing before the
Ayatollah does.
Do you think they don't knowwhere the uranium is?
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They do.
They know where the uranium isguaranteed.
Okay, so, and I guarantee youwe know where the uranium is.
Okay, and I guarantee wedropped bombs on it, on it or
sealed it off or whatever it is.
But anyway, the point of this isridiculous.
Ok, it's 24 hours after youlook at it and go a couple of
months and they're going to beable to rebuild.
(33:38):
What are you talking about?
Like you don't have anybody onthe ground, you don't have any
clue.
Ok, so Pete Hegseth, today, onWednesday, he stood up after the
NATO summit with the presidentand started pushing back on all
of this and again, this is oneof those stories that will be
pulled off the table and it willbe not spoken of again once
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they figure out that it'scompletely and totally garbage.
There is no way you're droppingthose kind of ordinance on
something and like no problem atall, it didn't do anything.
That's not true.
Speaker 4 (34:08):
And here's what Hegseth had to say To introduce
and when they introduced thatpreliminary, a preliminary
report that's deemed to be low,a low assessment.
You know what a low assessmentmeans Low confidence in the data
in that report.
And why is there low confidence?
Because all of the evidence ofwhat was just bombed by 12,
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30,000 pound bombs is buriedunder a mountain, devastated and
obliterated.
So if you want to make anassessment of what happened at
Fordow, you better get a bigshovel and go really deep,
because Iran's nuclear programis obliterated and somebody
somewhere is trying to leaksomething to say oh, with low
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confidence, we think maybe it'smoderate.
Those that dropped the bombsprecisely in the right place
know exactly what happened whenthat exploded and you know who
else knows Iran.
That's why they came to thetable right away, because their
nuclear capabilities have beenset back beyond what they
thought were possible, becauseof the courage of a commander in
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chief who led our troopsdespite what the fake news wants
to say.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
OK, interesting, and I think he makes a fair point,
especially on the Iranians aswell.
It's ridiculous Like this is aridiculous leak, but it is
eating up a lot of oxygen.
Speaker 7 (35:23):
Oh yeah, people want to talk about it, and another
thing that people are kind of,you know, really interested in
right now so far, there's been11 Iranians that were here
illegally that have now beenarrested over the past few days
and are set to be deported, andone of them is an Iranian sniper
.
So let's take a listen to this.
Speaker 9 (35:40):
The Department of Homeland Security says Yusuf
Maradano had been living in theUnited States illegally for
nearly eight years since USofficials determined he lied on
a visa application.
On Sunday, just four monthsafter the Iranian foreign
national was added to the US'sknown or suspected terrorist
list, he was arrested in centralMississippi.
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He's now in ICE custody pendingremoval proceedings, and he's
not alone.
Over the past 48 hours, iceofficials have arrested 11
Iranian nationals, spanningeight states nationwide.
Among them, five possessedprevious criminal convictions,
their crimes ranging from grandlarceny to drug and firearm
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possessions.
Also among those apprehended,ribbar Karimi.
While arresting him in northernAlabama, ice officials say they
found his Islamic Republic ofIran Army Identification Card
and allege he served as anIranian sniper between 2018 and
2021.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
OK, I think that's the biggest concern the
government has.
It isn't necessarily with Iranfiring missiles back at any of
our bases or anything like that.
I think their ability to dothat has been significantly
degraded.
It is sleeper cells in theUnited States which there's no
real understanding of what'sgoing on with that, other than
nothing's happened yet.
(37:01):
Hopefully it won't, but there'sno question they're trying to
nail that sort of thing down andgo after it.
Speaker 7 (37:07):
Yeah, I mean I have friends that asked after our
last show.
You know what?
What do we think is going?
You know, do we think theIranian leadership is going to
actually have this big call outagainst the United States?
And obviously we don't knowthat.
Um, we think that'd be prettyfoolish based on the rough.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
I think that, that I think I would think you're
seeing a lot of those pathwaysbetween Tehran and some of their
proxies and some of theirsleeper cells or whatever they
are.
There's a loose connection, asit is by the nature of what a
sleeper cell is.
And then I think you're goingto see the Ayatollah.
I think would put himself ingrave danger by making some sort
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of call out for anything likethat.
So who knows what's reallygoing on here.
Is there any?
Speaker 7 (37:49):
other kind we love for anything like that.
So who knows what's reallygoing on here.
Brave danger, is there anyother kind?
We love a few good men, so ifyou, haven't seen it.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
You need to watch it, so we'll see what happens with
it.
I think the biggest concern Ithink most people have is
homeland attacks.
At this point it has nothappened.
Now, if you can get a dealbetween the Israelis and the
Iranians, can you maybe stopthat sort of thing?
I don't know, but but that isone of the things that's had.
A lot of different things on alot of different levels are
happening here, and so we'll seehow it all shakes out.
Speaker 7 (38:10):
Yeah, let's hope for the best, pray for the best,
okay.
So something just kind ofentertaining and a little bit
lighter maybe in your life whenwe were in Boston the verdict
came down for Karen Reed.
She is a former collegeprofessor that was accused of
killing her boyfriend, who was aBoston cop, and the verdict
came down.
We were in Boston, so it waslike it was a big deal there.
It was all over the newspapersall that.
(38:32):
And you know, we kind of youand I watched a little snippet
and we were like, oh, okay, likea little like news clip on like
60 minutes or something I don'tremember what it was and we
were like, ah, she's guilty.
And so we came back and I wastalking to my friend Debbie
about it and Debbie's like, oh,my gosh, chris, you have to at
least watch this documentary,this documentary that's on max
right now, okay, and I was like,no, I really don't the lady's
guilty.
And she said, no, just doyourself a solid.
(38:54):
It's such a well thought outdocumentary.
I watched the thing in two days.
Okay, it's riveting.
Yeah, it is so well puttogether.
It's five parts, if you'relooking, looking for something
interesting.
They just did a good job ofdiving right in.
They interviewed all the mediathat were there as well, as they
had direct access to Karen Reedand her attorneys.
(39:18):
It was just interesting, I guess, to listen to Right.
And so the documentary is abouther first trial, Her first
trial which ends in a mistrial,which, that's no mystery,
everybody knows her case over ayear ago.
They do give an update at theend of the documentary, but my
understanding is there's anotherdocumentary on Hulu that's
covering it in real time withthis second trial.
Speaker 2 (39:33):
Okay, and the second trial is the one where she was
found not guilty.
Speaker 7 (39:36):
Not guilty.
Speaker 2 (39:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (39:38):
Which she was acquitted on that and that kind
of made national news.
I mean it was everywhere.
They really built this big PRmachine around her.
I mean I've never-.
Speaker 2 (39:46):
It's unreal.
Speaker 7 (39:46):
Since, like the OJ trial I'm sure there's been
other ones, but the OJ one trialcomes to mind because it was
also televised.
You could also watch it andthere was people that stood
outside the courtroom.
She had a lot of fan base thatshowed up to support her, they
sure did.
And meanwhile we don't reallyknow anything.
(40:08):
Skimmed over it, it's afascinating story.
Speaker 2 (40:12):
And you now think what she did it or she didn't
just spray and I.
Speaker 7 (40:14):
I gotta say that, like I don't know if she did it,
I really was convinced that shehad done it.
Speaker 2 (40:22):
And this sounds like making of a murder, making a
murder.
I it can make you believewhatever they want.
Speaker 7 (40:26):
Okay, good point.
I mean I this is what I said tomy friend Debbie.
I said Occam's razor, right,like it's.
All the facts point to her,Right, who else would want to
kill the guy, right?
You know she, I don't think shedid it on purpose, I think it
was an accident, um, but youknow that have more to do with
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like a dog that was in thathouse that night and there was
police officers in the housethat he died in that.
He died in front of the frontlawn when they found him.
What stood out to me in this onelittle thing?
It's not giving anything away,but the cop that owns the house
where this other cop was founddead in the front yard.
When everybody showed up theambulance all the police,
everybody Karen Reed was therewith all her people.
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They're screaming, they'reyelling.
Is he dead?
Is he dead?
Is he okay?
All this ruckus?
That police officer that threwthat party the night before
stayed inside of his house.
He knew the guy, he was friendswith the guy and he never came
out to check on his friend or tocheck on the case.
To me that was weird.
Speaker 2 (41:30):
So I'm saying yeah, I don't even know what you're
talking about, but you haven'twatched it.
Speaker 7 (41:33):
Yeah, I'm telling you if you like court drama, or
even if you don't like courtdrama and you just like a good
story, it's fascinating, okay.
Speaker 2 (41:39):
So check it out.
Well, good, well, thank, I willsay yeah, thanks, all right,
now it's time for the importantsegment, which is my game camera
segment.
So I want to start.
Two days ago I had some rainthe night before up in the
mountains and these cameras areall in Angel Fire at about
10,500 feet or so, way up highin the mountains.
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And so early morning, and mygood friend, look at this big
fella.
Speaker 7 (42:05):
Have you named them yet?
Speaker 2 (42:06):
I have not.
So this is one of the.
This is a big.
Speaker 7 (42:12):
I think this is the big male the big male bear that
kind of is around the area.
There's a height control.
Speaker 2 (42:14):
Very misty, very misty, very misty, and he just
kind of walks across and he kindof lumbers into the woods and
so he gets that done.
Now he, this guy's younger,this guy I think is about two
years old and you can see hiscoloring's a little bit
different See him taking a rock.
I think he's just taking a rockthere opening up, trying to get
some grub, worms or somethingout of there.
(42:34):
And then he looked and said, oh, there's nothing, so he's going
to go walking off.
So he looks pretty healthythough.
Yeah, he doesn it I totally get.
But but again, these guys younever see them in the same place
, uh, but that now I did see the, the second bear, with his mom
about six months ago.
They were all together, but nowthey're apart.
Now I think she's kicked themout she's like listen, it's,
(42:56):
you're out.
Speaker 7 (42:56):
You showed me a clip of one of these and there was
four bears.
Oh, I've got all kinds of stuffI made two, you're right.
Speaker 2 (43:02):
I probably should do a greatest hits version of my
show games.
Speaker 5 (43:06):
But this is just this week.
Speaker 2 (43:07):
This is all just this week.
All right, wally coyote uh,he's out, he was.
He's walking down.
See, there he is.
He's walking away from thecamera.
Okay, and I'm not sure whathe's doing in the pond here.
A little uh thing here.
I'm not sure if he's uhrelieving himself right there or
something.
Speaker 7 (43:21):
I can't really tell riveting guy.
Speaker 6 (43:23):
Well, you know I just want to keep an eye on it yeah,
and one more.
Speaker 2 (43:26):
This is a good looking young bull elk, which
this camera is a little furtherout, so I have to hike a ways to
get it.
But this is after a littlehailstorm so you can see the
hail on the ground there andhe's a good looking bull elk.
You can see the rack on himgrowing in there, looking good.
Yeah, he's just like all rightthere.
I go.
Speaker 7 (43:43):
He stopped to pose a little bit for you.
Speaker 2 (43:45):
He did and I appreciate it.
So again, I got a lot going onwith these cameras.
I'm going to continue tomonitor them and as we get more
stuff in, I'm going to keepshowing you and if I get enough
good stuff I'll do it.
Every show I'll do it, oh gosh.
Speaker 7 (43:58):
I will do it Okay, people write in.
Speaker 2 (44:12):
Do you want to see game camera clips every show, or
maybe once a month, or likemaybe once every six months?
Yeah, nope, nope, nope.
Every show every day, all right, well, thanks so much for
joining us.
We appreciate it.
We will be back with you on.
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