Episode 204: Media Hit Piece. Plus, When the New York Mayor's Race Affects the Entire Country

📰 Cheap Shot Journalism: Exposed

We start with a hit piece in the Albuquerque Journal targeting Darren White.
Mark breaks down how political hit pieces like this get printed, why they’re lazy journalism, and how they’re used to manipulate voters.

Krysty adds her own experience from the 2022 Governor’s race, where a cheap shot editorial aimed at Mark—and why New Mexicans need to look deeper before believing the headlines.

🗽 NYC’s Mayor Race = National Shockwaves?

We analyze how the Democratic nominee for New York City mayor could actually reshape elections across the country.
Mark breaks down the ripple effect—how a far-left mayor in NYC could tip the scales in places like New Jersey and beyond.
Trust us: this isn’t just about New York—it could reshape the entire political landscape heading into 2026.

💥 Inside the Iran Strikes: What You Haven’t Heard

Incredible new details have emerged about how a secretive U.S. government team, with the help of the military, pulled off a critical strike to cripple Iran’s nuclear capabilities.

You’ll hear the amazing true story of the two U.S. operatives who spent their lives trying to stop the world’s most dangerous regime from going nuclear—and how they just might have succeeded.

📉 FBI’s Latest Crime Data: NM At the Top

The newest crime rankings are out, and it’s bad news for New Mexico—again.
We break down what the FBI numbers really say, why New Mexico keeps landing at the top of the list, and what state leaders need to start doing now.

🌍 Ava’s Back from Africa (With a Surprise…)

Mark and Krysty welcome their daughter Ava back from her mission trip to the Ivory Coast.
She shares what the trip meant to her… and also reveals the unwanted souvenir she brought home: malaria.
(She’s doing great now…sort of. 

📺 Binge Alert: Netflix Must-Watch

We wrap with a show recommendation that might surprise you… but Mark and Krysty agree: this is a must-watch on Netflix.
Tune in to find out what it is—and why it’s worth your time.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 3 (00:06):
all right, here we go scouts scouts already yakking
at us scout is like hello it istime to go people it is.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
It is.
There is a uh a lot happeningout there.
We're going to get to a varietyof things.
Uh, local story darren white'smade the headline in the
albuquerque journal for aridiculous and inane reason.
We'll talk about that.
Uh, we'll get into a variety ofdifferent things.
We may even touch on a quicktrail cam here, by the way
because that has been a veryclear winner.

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I'll get into details on that.
Then we're going to talk aboutthe New York mayor's race.
I know you would think toyourself, why in the world would
we care about who is the mayorof New York City?
And I want to kind of take youon a little bit of a ride in
this respect and explain whythis race may matter not only in
New Mexico but across thecountry, and there's it's a bit

(00:57):
of a it's going to take a littleconnective tissue to make this
thing happen, but I think it'sgoing to be worth your time and
when you listen to thiscandidate you're going to be
shocked at some of what he says.
Then we're going to talk alittle bit about some of the
story we talked about a coupleof days ago, and that is what
happened with the attack on Iranthe intentional effort to make
it look like it was notsuccessful when it clearly was.

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We're talking about that.
And then some reallyinteresting perspective on the
people that were behind some ofthis, and the chairman of the
joint chiefs had a reallyinteresting story that he told
during a press conference thatwe're going to tap back into
that.
If you haven't heard it, youwant to hear it.
It really is amazing what hetalks about and it was really
cool.
And we also have some numberson the most dangerous States in

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the country to raise yourchildren, and you can imagine
where New Mexico ends up on thatlist.
And we also have details.
Ava's back from Africa yeah,she's back from Africa,
everybody, yep.
And so we're going to talk toher about that little trip and
then we're going to go throughsome recommendations.
One big recommendation that youmay be surprised that both of
us have.

Speaker 3 (01:58):
Yeah, we both are on the same page, I mean it is
shocking.

Speaker 2 (02:01):
Yes, and it is something that I would not have
thought, I would have liked thisshow as much as I have, but it
is amazing.
Actually, the storytelling isreally effective.
So we'll talk about it.

Speaker 3 (02:10):
Yeah, it's all about the storytelling.

Speaker 2 (02:11):
Yeah, it really is Okay.

Speaker 3 (02:13):
Yeah, we'll, we'll, we'll.
Razz you a little bit later.
Okay, let's start with a fewcomments.
We had so many comments, youguys.
We so appreciate that.
Don't forget, make somecomments on the YouTube channel
if that's where you're watching.
We read through those, or youcan drop us a quick email at
info at no doubt about it,podcastcom and we can make sure
that that happens there as well.
So, okay, this first one comesin.
There were so many on theMelanie Stansberry math fiasco

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it was hard to choose which oneto pick, but I thought Bill's
was pretty funny here.
Regarding Melanie Stansbury,I'm 75% against her, but 35% for
her, and 5% of me just doesn'tknow.
So again, if you do not getthat joke, watch our last
episode, because it was prettyfunny and embarrassing.

Speaker 6 (02:57):
Yes, all at the same point, yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:59):
Okay, and then here we go.
I mean, you guys, I asked forit, so I appreciate your honesty
.
It is hard for me to swallow mypride, but Mark did win this
game.
Camera nonsense.
I mean I want to say, Mark, youprobably had 30 comments and
emails that came in in favor ofyour game.
camera video yes, so I have togive it to the people, because

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that's what I told them to do isto write in, and they did so.
I picked out a couple of themfor you to make you feel better,
okay.

Speaker 2 (03:26):
I love it.

Speaker 3 (03:26):
Okay, patricia Luna says another informative episode
.
Thanks, I did enjoy the trailcam video.
A little nature and peace aftersuch shaking world events.
I vote for every show.
Yes, patricia, every show.
Okay, blodge a bunch, sorry.
Game camera.
I love seeing the wildlife onthe camera and I think you

(03:46):
should show it every Sunday andcall it Sunday game day.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
I love that.

Speaker 3 (03:48):
I think that's really good, that might be our winner.

Speaker 2 (03:49):
Blodge a bunch you, you win.
I'll tell her at the gym.
I see her at the gym here andthere and I'm going to tell her.
She's the way it's Sunday.
She's the big winner, that'sright.

Speaker 3 (04:05):
We're going to, I'm making.
I'm going to make a littlegraphic.
Everybody's going to day anyway.
Okay, I love watching the gamecameras.
Painted ponies wrote in.

Speaker 2 (04:09):
And then tommy gunn said I love the game cameras.
I cast my vote as a yes, sookay, I love it, so people have
spoken, and you know me, I'm aman of the people so here we go.
Uh, this is what we had thisweek.
I just grabbed a couple ofclips of the same animal, but
this was to me.
When I saw this guy comethrough beautiful elk, I mean,
this is just stunning.
Look at the just health of thisanimal.

Speaker 3 (04:29):
Amazing.
Yeah, it's beautiful.
It's a young guy too, I think.
Right, he looks pretty young tome, but I'm not an elk expert?

Speaker 2 (04:35):
I don't know, go to the next one else.
And so there's two there.
Thanks, kiddo.
Uh, so yeah, they just hangingout and look at that, I mean,
just a beautiful elk.
So that's what we had this week.
Now I have some others.

Speaker 3 (04:48):
I know you've stored them up.

Speaker 2 (04:49):
So I got some great stuff that I'll break out as we
go, oh good, but I just wantedto do this one, as you know.

Speaker 3 (04:54):
Hey, this happened this week A little shout out to
you yes, it's very solid, okay.
So thank you guys for takingthe time to write in and to tell
us and give us your vote.
I do love the the back andforth I'm swelling with pride
right now.

Speaker 2 (05:06):
I feel really good about this you did make mark's
entire weekend, okay, everybody,I said you won this.

Speaker 3 (05:11):
He couldn't see the comments for some reason, and I
was reading.

Speaker 2 (05:13):
I don't see the comments anymore.

Speaker 3 (05:15):
I was like oh my gosh , these people are really coming
out in droves for your gamecamera video so maybe we all
just need a little break fromsome of the the harder news.
Yes, there we go.
We appreciate that as well.

Speaker 2 (05:24):
So all right.
Front page of the journal.
So I want to talk a little bitabout this, not because I think
there's real veracity in thisstory.
I think it's a pretty stupidand inane story, but it's the
headline of the journal.
This morning A mayor of Hopeproclaimed Florida tax break,
meant for full-time residents.
This is Darren White.
Basically, what the story getsinto is that Darren had a tax
break that he took advantage of.

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That said he was basically aFlorida resident for a couple of
years.
And the reality is it's abookkeeping thing and they jump
all over it.
Like Darren White's not fromNew Mexico and no one's ever
heard of Darren White, like hedoesn't live here and he's not
been a part of our community fordecades.
So he has.
This is just one of thosestories, but I want to give you
a little insight behind howthese things happen, because you

(06:05):
see a story like this and yousay, oh my gosh, a journal digs
in and does some.
No, they don't.
So the journal sits there andthe people at the journal sit
there at their desk and they geta call from a political
opponent of Darren, somebodyright who's done a little bit of
digging and finds a littletechnicality that they can jump
onto here, which basically saysthat Darren got a couple

(06:27):
thousand dollars off of a taxbill or something four or five
years ago, okay, and then theysay he wasn't a resident here.
Well, everyone knows a tacklike this is dumb because it
doesn't fit with what everybodyknows, which is Darren's been
here forever, right, I mean,yeah, he has a house in Florida
there are plenty of New Mexicanswho have houses in other places
or whatever but he's been aresident here, has always voted
here, never voted in Florida.

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So you start reading thisarticle, but these things get
handed to certain media outlets.
Now, if you were on the otherside of the aisle or you had a
different sensibility, thejournal may spike the story and
not run it or not do anythingfor it, but a lot of times what
you have here is politicalopponents go and they just hand
these papers, who are more thanwilling to attack you whenever

(07:09):
they can.
They hand it to them and theysay go, do this, try to take
this shot, we'll try to createthis narrative.
Okay, and so that's how thesethings happen.
So oftentimes it's usually thepolitical leadership of another
campaign goes in.
Grab some oppo data where theythink is usable, then they'll
make sure they hand it over tosomebody who they think can get

(07:31):
it going, give it some life andtry to hit you with it.

Speaker 3 (07:34):
And so that's what this is Right, and we have our
own personal story with this andwe've talked about this on an
earlier episode.
But when we saw this story, Iimmediately started thinking
about this again, so we pulledthis really quickly.
This happened to you during thegovernor's race.
Just really quickly before Iread this headline this was in
response you came out on Twitteragainst Joe Biden's wanting to

(07:55):
forgive college student loandebt.

Speaker 2 (07:56):
Right yeah, we said look hardworking New Mexicans
should not pay for someoneelse's student loan debt.
You should have to do that onyour own.

Speaker 3 (08:02):
Right, okay.
So this is what Daniel Chaconat the Santa Fe New Mexican
wrote.
It says Ron Keddie decriesstudent loan forgiveness, yet
wife's federal loan was forgivenRight Okay, which is a complete
load of garbage, because itwasn't my college loan that was
forgiven because, I paid off mycollege loan all by myself, by
the way, which was severalthousand dollars, like multiple

(08:24):
thousands of dollars, which Ipaid for.
But so I just pulled this, thislittle part here, because I just
think again.
I like Daniel Chacon, I was sodisappointed in this story,
though at the time this wasincredibly unfair.

Speaker 2 (08:35):
It was so unfair and it was so ridiculous.

Speaker 3 (08:37):
I wasn't running for governor Mark was and had
nothing to do with college.

Speaker 2 (08:39):
And it's your business, by the way, not mine.
I don't run your business,turns out, little lady can run
her own business.
Turns out, little lady is anincredibly sexist attack, quite
frankly, because it went out andsaid that basically and you'll
read this in a sec.
But the overall point is youknow, big daddy goes and, uh, he
benefits from this.
One little lady is she's got alittle business and, uh, big
daddy gets a big benefit out ofit's.
Like what do you?

Speaker 3 (08:59):
what an insulting, insulting oh, I, I had it out
with the main editor.

Speaker 2 (09:04):
Oh, he didn't care, he didn't care.

Speaker 3 (09:05):
I was just like this is ridiculous.
But anyway, I want to just pullthis because it's just too
classic.
Documents show SJcommunications, the public
relations firm owned by his wife, christy Ronketti, received get
this, you guys $2,500 in a PPPloan in May of 2020.

Speaker 2 (09:20):
By the way, where does that rank on PPP loans in
the state of New Mexico, I think?

Speaker 3 (09:24):
I was literally the lowest loan ever given in the
state of New Mexico, somethinglike that For a PPP, for a PPP
loan so the bank told me.
Actually, I was the last oneforgiven, by the way, which was
also just not ironic at the time, because you were running for
public office.

Speaker 9 (09:38):
Right.

Speaker 3 (09:39):
And they said we are giving loans in the $500,000 and
the million dollar range thosehigh ones.
They were forgiven immediatelymy little measly $2,500 PPP,
which I used to pay my staff.
By the way, I didn't keep adime of it, to keep that in
perspective.

Speaker 2 (09:54):
But I benefited from it, but you apparently benefited
from it.
Wait, wait, read the quotethough.
Read the quote, yeah.

Speaker 3 (09:59):
Received a $2,500 paycheck from PPP that was
forgiven in its entirety,including interest.
$2,500 paycheck from PPP thatwas forgiven in its entirety,
including interest.
Daniel Garcia, a spokesman forthe Democratic Party of New
Mexico, called Ron Keddie, whowas running against Democratic
Governor Michelle Lujan Gershomin the November 8th general
election.
A hypocrite Quote.
Ron Keddie personally benefitedfrom thousands of dollars of

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federal loan forgiveness, butopposes student loan forgiveness
for tens of thousands of NewMexicans.
Mark Rancchetti has made itclear that he's happy to take a
check for himself.

Speaker 2 (10:31):
Turns out I run the little lady's business.

Speaker 3 (10:33):
Yeah, but he'd rather leave working and middle-class
New Mexicans out in the cold,garcia added.
This, paired with his repeatedopposition to tuition-free
higher education for all NewMexicans, just demonstrates how
out of touch with everyday NewMexicans he really is.

Speaker 2 (10:47):
By the way, I didn't say that that I was against
tuition-free higher education,ever, by the way.
But who cares what you?

Speaker 3 (10:53):
actually said Because again the newspapers.
This is what's maddening iswhen newspapers just say
whatever is handed to them theydon't come back.
They didn't ask for they didn'tcome to me, by the way at all
for any clarity before the story, which we had a relationship
and we still do with danielchacon and I'm not trying to bad
mouth him, but still, daniel,this one you still owe us for
because this is ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (11:11):
It's still ridiculous years later well, no, and they
give voice to stuff that is justflat and this is, and this is
kind of what you get into withthe darren white thing.
They just give voice topolitical hacks that are trying
to tear people down and peoplewonder why they're so.
They're so frustrated by thepolitical process.
They can't get healthcare, theydon't live in safe communities,
our education system is fallingapart, and then they go run

(11:31):
stories like this, which aretotally worthless and ridiculous
and they take away from thefocus of what real people care
about.
Why?
Because they just try to tearpeople down to do anything they
can.

Speaker 3 (11:40):
Well, they also the reason they came after you.
On this one, we did nothing, onyou, literally nothing on you
and so it was like, okay, whatcan we do here to scratch our
heads and see what happened?
Oh, his wife got a ppp put long, which was completely legal, by
the way I'm.
Most people in the state gotone at the time yeah, they had
small businesses that had smallbusinesses.
I mean, I could have taken amuch larger one and I chose not
to.
So it's just like I just tookthe money to pay my consultant.

Speaker 2 (12:02):
No, you didn't you gave it to me and I drank beer
with it.
Clearly, Because that's what Itell you.
I sit in front of the TV in myBarca lounger and I tell you
little lady, come bring me morecash to buy me beer.

Speaker 3 (12:14):
Right, because you personally benefited from
thousands of dollars.

Speaker 2 (12:16):
That's just ridiculous, but anyway.
So we bring those examples upjust to be able to say this is
what happened.
So these, these political andso again the ppp stuff diving in
on that that's just anotherpolitical campaign diving in to
try to hurt you right, and stuffthat just doesn't matter.

Speaker 3 (12:31):
Somebody had to go try to dig something up and then
had to call the newspaper andsay, hey, listen, like look what
we found.

Speaker 2 (12:36):
This is very damning and again they, and then the
journal starts to chase it downbecause the, the political hack
group goes and gives it to them.
So they'll do 25% of the workto try to get 100% of the story.
And again it's all politicallymotivated and a lot of this
stuff again.
The point being is, if you'retalking about the Albuquerque
mayor's race which is reallywhat this is about you know

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there are plenty of huge issuesto talk about there.
Darren White having a house inFlorida is not one of them.
Now, I mean, it's just not oneof them, and that's the part of
this that is so frustrating,because you see how many issues
we truly have.
Address those issues, staylaser focused on those.
I wish the journal would startdoing some investigative work on
all of these candidates all ofthem, including the mayor's

(13:18):
unwillingness to deal with, orat least his conflict with a lot
of the groups that try to keeppeople in line as far as their
ethics go.
That is a massive issue at cityhall right now.
We don't see much on it at all.
So when are we going toactually talk about issues that
matter?
It's important to everybody andevery candidate should be
subject to this.
I just think this is one ofthose stories just kind of roll
your eyes and go.

(13:38):
Would you please focus onthings that matter?

Speaker 3 (13:48):
Right and I guess I like to bring it to everybody's
attention as well, just becauseI think you want people to be
critical thinkers out there.
So when you see something andyou grab a headline or you see
something, make sure youactually number one dive into it
.
Did it really answer all thequestions?
Did you really?
I mean, like even me, even if Iwas an editor of the article
that was written on us, I wouldbe if I was Daniel Ciccone and I
was like okay, chris, you,christy got 2,500 bucks.
How did Mark get benefit fromthousands of dollars?

Speaker 2 (14:04):
Well, how does that matter?
How does it?
No, it's a sexist argument allthe way around.
Oh, it was completely sexist Ifyou would reverse roles in my
business.
By the way, michelle wasn'theld accountable for her
husband's business.
Oh, I know, and he took, Ibelieve it was well in the
hundreds of thousands of dollars, and nor should that have been
a factor in the campaign and itshouldn't have been, but they
didn't cover that.
I understand they didn't coverthat, because their argument

(14:24):
would be that she didn't opposefederal loan forgiveness, but my
point is on that, though, thathis business is his business and
it should be.
It shouldn't have been.
I never talked about him.
Why?
Because he's not running.
She is Right, right, I mean.

Speaker 3 (14:38):
So that was the difference, and so all these
issues are and I also said hey,if you want to talk about loan
forgiveness, then do apples toapples.
I remember saying that to theeditor at the time.
I was like do apples to apples.
I paid for my college loan.
I paid it off.
I was like so, if you reallywant to go apples to apples,
that's the conversation.
Anyway, sorry, I get stillfired up about that.
No, I know.

(14:59):
No, I don't blame you, werefurious at the time, but it made
me think more appropriatelywith this Darren thing.

Speaker 2 (15:04):
It's just one of those things that just behind
the scenes, just so you knowit's another campaign, goes in,
looks it up, hands it to thejournal, basically ready
packaged and ready to go, andtrying to make it look like
Darren is near.
The problem with thesearguments is that with someone
like Darren, who's been in thefabric of this community for for
decades, it doesn't, it's notgoing to hold, it's not going to
be a big factor in the election.
But the fact that it's thefront page of the journal, top

(15:26):
of the fold, it's like oh, giveme a break.
So, okay, All right, so let'stalk about another mayor's race.

Speaker 3 (15:30):
Oh my gosh, this mayor's race, this one's giving
me stress, and I don't even livein New York.

Speaker 2 (15:46):
Well, it's, it's interesting.
So, because more thought aboutit, I started thinking you know,
you know what do we really careabout that for now?
Anyway, I mean, it's a bigstory across the country because
it's our biggest city right inthe country.
But then I started to look atthis and start going you know
what?
This is going to be veryinteresting.
So I want to take you on alittle walk, and it's going to
be a little in-depth here.
But I want you to look at thisa little differently than you

(16:08):
might, because I think thiselection, this mayor's race,
could end up having massivenational implications, and so
I'll explain why that is.
But first you have to know whoMamdani is.
Some of what he said yeah.

Speaker 3 (16:22):
So here's just a quick tweet from him.
He says we don't need aninvestigation to know that the
NMPD is racist, anti-queer andNYPD.
Nypd.
Sorry, what did I say?

Speaker 2 (16:32):
NMPD.
Oh sorry, yeah, no, the NewMexico Police Department.

Speaker 3 (16:36):
Okay.
New York Police Department isracist, anti-queer and a major
threat to public safety.
What we need to do is defundthe NYPD.
But your deal with the NYCmayor uses budget tricks to keep
as many cops as possible on thebeat.
Notify, cuts, defund the police.
I mean you have people lightingpeople on fire in the subway

(16:56):
and killing people and you'relike, okay, yeah, let's just rid
all the cops.

Speaker 2 (17:01):
This is unbelievably irresponsible, like anyone who.
This is disqualifying in and ofitself.
It should be, but, but no,because that's the shot.
But we got a chaser, all right,so we're gonna.

Speaker 3 (17:09):
Let's just listen there's a lot of chasers it's
unbelievable, right.

Speaker 2 (17:12):
So let's talk about what he says about crime, and
that crime is actually just aconstruct, a political construct
.
Listen to this.
This is again him talkingbefore he ran for mayor.

Speaker 5 (17:23):
Sometimes we've even found as legislators when we go
into these courts, the termviolent crime is even used when
people are stealing packages.
Violent crime is even used whenpeople are accused of burglary
and there happens to be ahousing unit in that same
dwelling.
So violence is an artificialconstruction.
We have to be very clear thatwhat is happening here with

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these district attorneys.
That is violence.

Speaker 2 (17:47):
OK, listen to what he just said there.
Listen to what he just said,and it's the classic socialism.
Turn everything on its head.
The real violence are theprosecutors.
Up is down, down is up.
The real victims are thecriminals.
Like this is incrediblydangerous.
Ok, this, this type of rhetoricis the type of rhetoric that is

(18:09):
devastating, and there areplenty of of Democrats who see
this guy and are going, oh mygosh, this, this guy cannot be
who our standard bearer is goingto be.
But this is going to be one ofthe biggest races in the country
for the next six months andthis guy, this whole approach of
no, no, no, crime really isn'tcrime.
Criminals aren't real criminals.
The real criminals are theprosecutors and the police and
the police.

Speaker 3 (18:29):
He wants to defund the police and he wants to
abolish prisons.
By the way, that's another.
We don't have a clip on thatone.
He wants to abolish prisons andhe wants to make a prostitution
legal.
I mean, these are just some ofhis like little top line items,
right?
So keep going.
It's unreal.

(18:49):
And again.
And if you're thinking, oh well, at least he's not anti-Semitic
, oh no, it turns out he isactually In the city, in the
country, New York.
It has more Jewish populationthan any other place in the
United States.
The only other place that hasas many Jewish people is Israel
by the way, right right,absolutely.

Speaker 2 (18:59):
So he was asked what he would do if Benjamin
Netanyahu came to New York.
He was asked what he would doif Benjamin Netanyahu came to
New York.
Listen to this.

Speaker 4 (19:07):
The US is not a signature to the ICC, so he can
travel to the US, unlike a lotof other countries.
Would a Mayor Mamdani welcomeBenjamin Netanyahu to the city?
No, as Mayor, new York Citywould arrest Benjamin Netanyahu.
This is a city that our valuesare in line with international
law.
It's time that our actions arealso, even though the US is not

(19:28):
a signature of the ICC.
No, it's time that we actuallystep up and make clear what we
are willing to do to showcasethe leadership that is sorely
missing in the federaladministration.

Speaker 2 (19:32):
Okay, that is ludicrous in its point, but the
ICC is the InternationalCriminal Court, which has no
bearing on anything in theUnited States.
We don't recognize theirfindings ever, and so to say
that you're going to, as hecomes to New York, arrest the
leader of the only democracy inthe Middle East a democracy that

(19:52):
has helped take down thelargest state sponsor of
terrorism over the past coupleof months, which was attacked
and had their people slaughteredon October 7th 2023, is
ludicrous.
Again, a ridiculous commentfrom somebody who is is
dangerous in his views.

Speaker 3 (20:08):
Well, he's very extreme.
I mean he's got extreme views.
He's anti-Christian,anti-jewish.
I mean I it's very, very scarySome of the things that this guy
really stands for, and it'sshocking to me that he won the
democratic primary.

Speaker 2 (20:21):
Well and again, I think this is Andrew Cuomo did
not run a great race and then hewent with one of these
grassroots deals.
Now, one thing he talked aboutwhich which needs to be
mentioned, one thing he talkedabout is price, basically cost
of living and price of housingin New York City, which, look,
there are people that make thepoint.
There is a weird parallel herethat he and Trump tapped into a

(20:43):
similar thing, and that is thatthings cost too much money and
people are being left behind.
That's true, they both madethat point.
They're just making that pointfrom completely different ends
of the perspective, right,completely different.

Speaker 3 (20:55):
Well, just so you know, one thing he did say to
dive into this, about thosecosts, those rising costs he
wants government funded grocerystores.

Speaker 2 (21:02):
Yeah, yeah, so he wants to take control of food
supply.

Speaker 3 (21:05):
Right.
So which is what they had inRussia, Like, oh, it doesn't it
clearly doesn't work, like noneof this works.

Speaker 2 (21:10):
It drives up prices.
It doesn't bring them down.

Speaker 3 (21:12):
He has no concept of anything.
It's a very communist way ofthinking.

Speaker 2 (21:15):
It's not very, it is, I mean he's a socialist and I
think even beyond's, so it'ssocialism in this particular
case.
But but I want to talk to youabout you know some of what he
said about taxes, and you knowhe wants to raise taxes as much
as possible.
Okay, and so where do you wantto raise taxes?
Well, listen to what he.
He said, and he said originallyhe wants to raise taxes on

(21:38):
people in white neighborhoods.
That's what he said, and so?
So then today on Meet the Press, kristen Welker asked him.
You mentioned that she's tryingto help him soften this.
You mentioned that you want toraise prices on white people,
right, or raise taxes.

Speaker 9 (21:54):
And so here's, here's what he says in response to
that that says your plan and I'mgoing to quote it for folks is
to shift the tax burden fromovertaxed homeowners in the
outer boroughs to more expensivehomes in richer and whiter
neighborhoods.
Explain why you are bringingrace into your tax proposal.

Speaker 4 (22:16):
That is just a description of what we see right
now.
It's not driven by race, it'smore of an assessment of what
neighborhoods are beingundertaxed versus overtaxed.
We've seen time and again thatthis is a property tax system
that is inequitable.
It's one that actually EricAdams ran on saying that he
would change in the firsthundred days.
He's since sought to defend itand lost at every juncture in
court.

Speaker 9 (22:36):
And I understand you're saying we're simply
describing the types ofneighborhoods that would see
these increase in taxes and yet,by invoking race, do you run
the risk of potentiallyalienating key constituents?

Speaker 4 (22:48):
I think I'm just naming things as they are and
ultimately, the thing thatmotivates me in this is to
create a system of fairness.
It is not to work backwardsfrom a racial assessment of
neighborhoods or our city.
Rather, it's to ensure that weactually have an equal playing
field, and right now, what wesee with the property tax system
is one that is overtaxing anumber of New Yorkers and

(23:08):
undertaxing others, and aninability of political will to
resolve that.

Speaker 9 (23:12):
So no plans to change that language on your website.

Speaker 4 (23:16):
The focus here is to actually ensure a fair property
tax system, and the use of thatlanguage is just an assessment
of the neighborhood.

Speaker 3 (23:22):
All right, it's an assessment of the neighborhood.
It is a racist way.
It is definitely judging basedon race.
It is absolutely.
I don't know how you get aroundthat he's trying to say oh,
it's an assessment of theneighborhood, Give me a break.

Speaker 2 (23:33):
He also views himself as the arbiter of fairness.
That should scare the heck outof anybody in New York, which is
this is not fair.
I'm going to make it fair, I'mgoing to tell you what's fair
and I'm going to put differenttax rates on different
neighborhoods.
You know and again you talkneighborhoods what I mean.
So you know.
And then he does, he does bringthe race, and so clearly you

(23:55):
know this is what he's trying todo and he's not backing away
from this.

Speaker 3 (23:58):
Oh no, he's doubling down, that's what.
I'm saying Like he didn't sayin my language is going to
change on this on my website,nothing he's like.
No, this is just the assessmentof the neighborhoods, right
you're?
You sound racist like at theend of the day, that's he does.

Speaker 2 (24:09):
Well, no, no, look he's.
He's got in the history, hishistory of horrendous things
that he said is beyond belief.
So but we, we pulled thoseaside because I want you to
understand basically what you'redealing with here.
So, so what you're dealing withhere is a socialist who's very
anti-israel, who who has beenvery, you know, who's just over
the top anti-police the wholething, irresponsible in every

(24:30):
single way, and has no right tobe mayor of or has no business.
No one has a right but, youknow, has no business being
mayor of the city of New York.
This will be a catastrophicdisaster for him and for the
democratic party If he's electedwhen the scary part is, mark is
he's expected to win.

Speaker 3 (24:48):
Well, early numbers are showing that he has a great
shot?

Speaker 2 (24:51):
Well, of course he does, because, remember, if
you're talking about thebreakdown in New York city,
you're basically 80, 20Democrats or Republican.
Okay, so he won the democraticnomination Right.
And so then you're going tothrow a couple other candidates
in there.
You're going to have aRepublican, curtis Sliwa.
He's not going to win.
He doesn't belong being mayorof New York either.
By the way, eric Adams is goingto run as an independent.
The current mayor Probablyright now, believe it or not, as

(25:13):
rough as it's been for EricAdams probably the best choice.

Speaker 3 (25:16):
It really is.
It's crazy they're asking theRepublican candidate Curtis to
step down and throw his supportaround, eric.
I mean, that's what they'resaying.

Speaker 2 (25:23):
I agree I don't think he will, but I think that does
make some sense.
I think Cuomo should Cuomo'sthinking about running as an
independent again, getting backinto there.
He thinks he has some weirdpath.
After losing to Mamdani duringthe primary, he can kind of
circle back and be anindependent.
Okay, so he could do that too.
So, but again, if you startbreaking up that independent

(25:50):
vote and you take thatRepublican vote away, mbani has
a probably a 60 to 70 percentchance to be the next mayor.
Right now it isn't 100 percentand, believe me, a normal
everyday Democrat would be 100percent.
Like you'd be you're the winner, like you'd already be the
winner.
The vote will be in November,but you'd already be the winner.
Now it's probably 70 percentwith this guy because he's such
an extremist and you have plentyof people on Democratic side
trying to figure out how do wedeal with this guy.
Okay, what do we do?

(26:14):
And I will tell you this isgoing to metastasize to include
a much bigger part of thecountry and I want to give you a
couple of examples.
Okay, it's going to start inthe state of New Jersey and this
is.
We're going to get in depthhere and it's a little more, you
know, kind of wonkish, but Ithink it's important to look at
because I think this reallymeans something as a race.
So I want you to look at theresults here.
This is the results in thestate of New Jersey in the 2024
presidential race.
If you look at those numbersnow, many of you may well know

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New Jersey is a deep blue state,or at least it was OK.
If you look at those numbers,that's a six-point race.
That's a very close race in thestate of New Jersey.
Trump did very well, very well.
Now that comes after the year2021.
If you remember, back, jackCittarelli ran against Murphy,

(27:00):
Phil Murphy, the sittinggovernor of New Jersey.
Okay, jack Cittarelli gotwithin three points.
That was a huge, huge race.

Speaker 3 (27:09):
Yeah, that was the race we all had our eyes on.
It was right before ourgovernor, it was a year before
our governor's race, and that'swhen we had Yunkin.
Yunkin won right he won inVirginia and then this was the
other governor's race.
So to kind of jog your memory,if you guys remember that we
were all really watching thosetwo states, because those are
the big governor's races of 2021.

Speaker 2 (27:27):
Yep, no question.
So Cittarelli does very well.
So now fast forward to where weare today.
Jack Cittarelli is now theRepublican nominee for governor
in the state of New Jersey again.
So he's won the primary, and hewon it big.
He got 67.8% of the vote in theNew Jersey governor's primary

(27:48):
about a week ago.
Okay, now, who's he runningagainst?
He's running against MikeySherrill.
Okay, this Mikey Sherrill, sheis a Democrat who's not an
extremist.
Okay, even, I think mostRepublicans would agree, even
Republicans who don't like MikeySherrill, which there are
plenty of.
You know no fan of MikeySherrill, but I will tell you,
mikey Sherrill is not you know,she is not Mamdani.

(28:09):
Ok, however, what is thebiggest media market touching
the state of New Jersey?

Speaker 3 (28:17):
It's going to be New York City.
It's going to be New York City,right.

Speaker 2 (28:19):
Who's running?
So if you are Jack Cittarelli,you're going to spend as much
time running against Mamdani asyou do against Cheryl.

Speaker 3 (28:30):
Right Because of the policies.
Right, that's what you meanwhen you say that, like you're
running against the policies ofthat.

Speaker 2 (28:32):
Yeah.
So you're regularly going outthere saying New York is about
to elect an extremist socialistto be their mayor and you need
me to stand in the way and stophim.
So you are hammering away atMamdani as much as you're
hitting Cheryl, and you'returning Cheryl into Mamdani and
Mamdani into Cheryl.
You're morphing them together.
They're the same person.

(28:53):
You're running against both ofthem.
Now you also have the Phillymarket in New Jersey, and that's
going to be part of it too, soyou can have both.
So Philly won't cover as muchof it as the New York market
will.
But if you're Chittarelli,you're going off on this.
Okay, and you're saying I amthe bulwark against stopping
somebody who absolutely willdestroy New York city.

(29:14):
I will protect New Jerseybecause New Jersey is so closely
tied to New York city.

Speaker 3 (29:17):
Right, you have a lot of people that commute back and
forth.
Huge right that live in NewJersey.
No question.

Speaker 2 (29:21):
Businesses, everything Right.
So you're running against bothof them and you will hammer this
guy, and you're doing it in astate that is already moving
Right.
So is Chitorelli going to win?
I don't know.
That's going to be toughbecause, actually, cheryl is not
a crazy person.
Okay, she's not Okay.
So that you should know.
However, if you're Chitorelli,you'd much rather have Mamdani

(29:43):
running at the top of the ticketin New York City than Cuomo,
because Cuomo wasn't as crazy asMamdani, right?
So Chittarelli's like so let'sjust forward this ahead and, in
the same, mamdani wins, okay.
Then you're looking nationally,okay, as you approach 2020, so
well, in this particular case,will be 20, be 2028, but but or

(30:03):
excuse me 2026, sorry, thecongressional elections, right,
you start wrapping thedemocratic party in Mamdani.
He is the national face of thedemocratic party.
That's what you're going to do.
That's why so many Democratsare looking at this and going,
no, this guy is not what westand for.
We do not want to defund thepolice, you know.
You know there are plenty ofnormal Democrats who are like,

(30:24):
uh-uh, no.
But I'll tell you what this guyis dangerous for the party
Because, again, in this day andage and this is a lesson that
Trump has taught, which is don'trun away from what you believe.
Stand up for it, because a lotof times you can't run away from
it.
It's really hard to do andvoters will appreciate the fact
that you stand up for it.
Now, if you're as extreme asMamdani, I think it's incredibly

(30:45):
dangerous.

Speaker 3 (30:46):
Yeah, I mean, I get that you keep saying that.
You know from what I'm readingis that they think he'll get
about 35 percent of the vote.
Is kind of what some people arekind of estimating.
So he is beatable if.
If you put, you know, if youget some of the candidates out,
like meaning like if theRepublican drops out, everybody
puts their yeah but that's notgoing to happen.

Speaker 2 (31:02):
No one does it.
No one does that.
No, I know because he goes moreof it.

Speaker 3 (31:05):
Right.
The scary part to me is or Iguess I just like my rational
thinking is you still haveplenty of Democrats who are
Jewish that live in New York.

Speaker 2 (31:13):
That won't vote for this guy.
Yeah, and most of them will notvote for him.
Well, I would hope all of themwould not vote, you know, but
but still, but you but you dohave a huge portion of that
population which does support it.
And if you think he's not goingto win, he's got a real chance.
And he's got a lot of peoplewho look at what's happening in

(31:33):
New York city.
They can't afford to live thereand they're like you know,
we'll take anything.
And so everybody thinks thatyou know this is you know how
could anybody possibly electthis guy?
And, by the way, the bestthings that have happened in New
York city and why the cityturned around was really
Giuliani and then, to somedegree, bloomberg behind them.
But after that, the city starts.
De Blasio destroys the city andthen, beyond that, eric Adams

(31:56):
does not do a good job in.
This guy will be the topper ofall toppers, will destroy New
York city.
He absolutely will.
And so my point being on this,that you think, oh, why do I
care about the mayor of New YorkCity?
This is why Race in New Jerseywill matter, because of it.
And then I think nationally, ifhe wins and he becomes the
standard bearer for that party.
It is going to be an albatrossaround their necks.

(32:18):
It's going to be a verydifficult thing to escape
because it's hard to make thecase that you're for especially
middle-class families andkeeping this country safe when
this guy is your standard bearer.
And that's why so manyDemocrats have been like whoa
and now some have jumped onboard Bill Clinton.
Guys like that have jumped onboard.
We'll see what happens, but I'mjust saying overall that's why

(32:40):
you care about this race.
It's going to matter and ifhe's their standard bearer,
they're in trouble.
Wow, they're in very bigtrouble.

Speaker 3 (32:45):
Okay, let's, let's get back to this bombing in Iran
.
Okay, and what happened here?
We have just all this.
It just does, it's not goingaway, right?
So you have this preliminaryreport that we talked about on
an earlier show, just that, youknow, basically trying to
discount Trump's efforts and themilitary efforts and saying,
you know, this really was a bust, it didn't do the damage that

(33:06):
we anticipated.
And then this past week we'veseen, you know, press
conferences with Trump andHegseth and all these other
people coming out and saying,listen, that was an early report
.
I don't know how anybody'ssaying that we didn't do the
damage that we've said thatwe've done.
And you even have Iranbasically saying, yeah, you've
put us back.

Speaker 2 (33:25):
Right and so on.
Cnn.
Cnn is the one who broke thestory.
And so Scott Jennings, ourfavorite guy on CNN, comes out
and without directly saying CNN,he means CNN directly tried to
destroy the narrative on this tobe able to say, hey, this
didn't work.
Well, it turns out CNN waswrong on this.
We said it when it happened,when it came out.
This was going to be wrong andit has been proven to be wrong.

(33:49):
But here's what Scott Jenningssaid yeah, I have a slightly
different take.

Speaker 1 (33:51):
of course.
I think a concerted effort wasundertaken to make this mission
look like a failure.
I think they have a point.
This was a low confidencereport, which was omitted when
it was first reported, we didn'tuse the word low confidence.
Talk about what low confidencemeans.
It was a preliminary report andit was done by the government,

(34:15):
put on a system I guess, sentover to Congress.
Somehow some Democratic membersof Congress leaked it or
characterized it in a leak, in away to try to make it seem like
the mission was a failure tohurt Donald Trump politically.
So I think they have a pointabout why they're upset.
And what have we learned since?
Israel says these things weredecimated.

(34:36):
The IAEA thinks they weredecimated.
Even Iran says massive damagewas done to our nuclear sites.
I do think that when it comesto Donald Trump, often the
position of covering him is thismust be disproved.
And when it comes to Democraticpresidents, the position is,
we'll take it at face value.

Speaker 2 (34:54):
Yeah, so it's absolutely true it is true.

Speaker 3 (34:58):
It's kind of I mean, even so, that you know, I see
some people on social mediareally trying to just say oh
then the other conspiracy theoryis not only did Trump, was he
unsuccessful in this bombingright, but don't worry, iran
moved all of their uranium.
It's a great point.

Speaker 2 (35:14):
It's a great, great point.
So on that point, by the way,they didn't move anything.
If you know anything aboutnuclear fissile material,
especially the stuff that theyhad enriched to the point they
had 60%, you don't just throw itin the back of a pickup truck
and take off.
It's so inane and ridiculous toeven say that you'd have to go
and transport it properly.

(35:34):
If you don't transport itspatially really I mean I'm
talking like spatially andperfectly you risk complete and
total contamination.
It'd be a disaster.
Okay, so you don't just roll upthere, chuck it out of there.
And, by the way, you createdFordow to protect it from
something like this, from abombing.
You're going to then take itout of Fordow when you're under

(35:56):
attack from the Israelis, put itout in the open and allow them
to bomb it.

Speaker 3 (36:00):
Yeah, no way, it's crazy, it's the dumbest theory.

Speaker 2 (36:03):
It's a terrible theory and it doesn't make any
sense and it's wrong.
But Trump did come out and talkabout it a little bit and
here's what he had to say aboutdid they actually move it, which
, again, if you think about theprocess involved in this, it
would take months to coordinatethis thing.
To move fissile material likethis.
You just can't.

Speaker 3 (36:21):
And you don't think that the Israeli government
would know that that washappening?

Speaker 2 (36:24):
Oh my, gosh, Not only would they know, they would
have the guy driving the truckand they'd be like, all right,
where are you going to take it?
He's like I'm going to take itover on 3rd Street and I'll walk
out of there and just bomb thething.
I mean, it's crazy, right, it'snuts.

Speaker 9 (36:38):
But here's what Trump had to say about it.
It was 800 pounds that theymoved, but I wonder if it's
traceable.

Speaker 8 (36:45):
I mean, if they were to have moved something.
They didn't move anything.
You know they moved themselves.
They were all trying to live.
They didn't move anything.
They didn't think it was goingto be actually doable.
What we did and what we did wasamazing, and you know there
were energy commissions thatwent there.
It's just thousands of tons ofrock in that room right now.

(37:08):
That room, the whole place wasjust destroyed, and the other
two also.
Now Israel was able to dodamage, but we did the final
damage and we have the greatestsubmarines in the world.
We launched 30 rockets fromsubmarines.
Every single one of them hittheir target.

Speaker 2 (37:25):
Yeah, so this is just .
You know some's, some of thisstuff is ridiculous, and I and I
do think the media does this attheir own peril, because what
they end up doing is that theyend up saying, no, this didn't
happen, this didn't work.
Trump doesn't.
The problem is he has moreinformation than any of us have
it always does and so you'll endup looking at like, wow, wow,

(37:47):
it turns out that you know.
Let me give you a quick example.
I was watching a Sean Ryan showthis past week.
He had a reporter on who'sdoing a ton of work on the
fentanyl trade and everythingthat's happened at the border
since it was shut down.
You know what she said?
She said a huge amount of thefentanyl trade has been moved
from Mexico.
Now do you remember who Mexicowas paired with when Trump came
out and said you guys have to domore to stop the fentanyl trade

(38:08):
.

Speaker 3 (38:08):
China right.

Speaker 2 (38:09):
Well, china and Canada right.
Remember that we all said whywould Canada's not doing
anything with?
They don't deserve this.
Oh yeah, they do.
This has moved to Canada.
So when you start looking athow much of the fentanyl trade
now goes China, canada, unitedStates it's massive.
It's totally changed.

(38:29):
Well, everybody's like why isTrump doing this?
Cause he knows, cause he's gotall the data and he's got all
the Intel right.
That's just one little example.

Speaker 3 (38:36):
People are saying, oh , but this report came out from
the department of defense.
I mean, so they were like youknow, it's, it's, it's
definitely qualified.

Speaker 2 (38:42):
Oh no, it's, it's ridiculous.
It's 24 hours after the.
It was done.
It was, you know.
Can you imagine it's like inyour own business, when you get
one little tiny piece ofinformation?
Then you get the whole picture.
You're like, oh geez, all right, so but the point being in all
of this is.

Speaker 3 (39:02):
it's ridiculous and we all could tell I'm like,
listen, if they can clean thatrubble up in three months, yeah,
then we need to get thosepeople in new mexico to start
fixing our roads exactly right.

Speaker 2 (39:11):
No, I mean, can you imagine how smooth the roads
would be?
Yeah, I mean, if you got threemonths.

Speaker 3 (39:14):
In three months, our state will look fantastic it
will.
It's a good point two and ahalf miles deep of rubble like
yeah no, it's unreal.

Speaker 2 (39:21):
It's unreal, that's that is.
It's just not even common sense.

Speaker 3 (39:23):
So when I was seeing people posting about it, I'm
like come on, yeah, stop.
Use critical thinking for onesecond.

Speaker 2 (39:29):
But you know again, but this is just the same old
pattern over and over again.
You know, don't believe them.
Attack, attack, attack Turn outto be wrong and then you just
look dumb and dumb and againit's not true and so we're not

(39:49):
listening to them.
So they may, no, no, no, no.
But most, but most Americanshave access now to this.
So you're seeing a bit more ofa balance.
You are the go.
Look at the numbers on normallegacy media whether it be local
or national.
They're dropping everywhere.
So they're dropping everywhere.
So, yeah, so, okay, so I wantto do one other longer clip here
I want you to listen to andthen nuclear program and
watching Fordow and watchingeverything that happened.

(40:30):
This is just such a well-donestory by the general, just
explaining some of what goes on.
We don't know about it,obviously, and we should never
know about it until after it'sover, but this is really amazing
when you listen to the story.
So it is worth your time.
It's a couple of minutes long,but he goes through and talks
about the story of two peoplewho have been watching Fordow

(40:51):
since day one 2009,.

Speaker 6 (40:55):
A defense threat reduction agency officer was
brought into a vault at anundisclosed location and briefed
on something going on in Iran.
For security purposes, I'm notgoing to share his name.
He was shown some photos andsome highly classified
intelligence of what looked likea major construction project in

(41:15):
the mountains of Iran.
He was tasked to study thisfacility, work with the
intelligence community tounderstand it, and he was soon
joined by an additional teammate.
For more than 15 years, thisofficer and his teammate lived
and breathed this single targetFordow, a critical element of
Iran's covert nuclear weaponsprogram.

(41:38):
He studied the geology.
He watched the Iranians dig itout.
He watched the construction,the weather, the discard
material, the geology, theconstruction materials, where
the materials came from.
He looked at the vent shaft,the exhaust shaft, the
electrical systems, theenvironmental control systems,
every nook, every crater, everypiece of equipment going in and

(42:00):
every piece of equipment goingout.
They literally dreamed aboutthis target at night when they
slept.
They thought about it drivingback and forth to work and they
knew from the very first dayswhat this was for.
You do not build amulti-layered underground bunker

(42:22):
complex with centrifuges andother equipment in a mountain
for any peaceful purpose.
They weren't able to discussthis with their family, their
wives, their kids, their friends.
But they just kept grinding itout and along the way, they
realized we did not have aweapon that could adequately
strike and kill this target.
So they began a journey to workwith industry and other

(42:44):
tacticians to develop the GBU-57.
They tested it over and overagain, tried different options,
tried more.
After that.
They accomplished hundreds oftest shots and dropped many
full-scale weapons againstextremely realistic targets for
a single purpose kill thistarget at the time and place of

(43:09):
our nation's choosing.
And then, on a day in June of2025, more than 15 years after
they started their life's work,the phone rang and the President
of the United States orderedthe B-2 force that you've
supported to go strike and killthis target.
Yesterday, I had the incrediblehonor and privilege of spending

(43:29):
time with these two DefenseThreat Reduction Agency officers
who've given so much.
One of them said quote I can'teven get my head around this.
My heart is so filled with thepride of being a part of this
team.
I am so honored to be a part ofthis.
To you both, thank you, andthank you to your families.

Speaker 2 (43:51):
Proud to be an American.
It's unbelievable.

Speaker 3 (43:55):
You're getting all teary-eyed over that.
I am all teary-eyed over thatit's incredible.

Speaker 2 (43:58):
Imagine giving your life to something you can't tell
anyone anything.

Speaker 3 (44:01):
Right and you don't even know if what you're doing
is going to actually work.

Speaker 2 (44:04):
Yeah, will it even happen?
Will it ever even matter?
Will you spend 20 years on this?
And then, all of a sudden, theyget the bomb and what you did
meant nothing Right.
Instead, it's the opposite.
You went in there and you didincredible work that not only
allowed them to find thelocation, know exactly what they
were dropping that bomb into,but help develop the bomb that

(44:25):
did it.
And then, realistically, you'renot bombing people, you're just
bombing a nuclear site to makesure that the most dangerous
country in the world can't takeinnocent lives.
That's incredible, yeah it is.
That's incredible.
I'm so like there's so much ofthat that goes on in our, our
defense industry that the peoplethat keep us safe every day.
This is the greatest country inthe world, and if you don't

(44:48):
watch that and think that, Idon't know what to do for you,
but you definitely takeadvantage of the blanket of
freedom which they provide.
You should thank them forproviding it.

Speaker 3 (44:54):
Yeah, exactly, absolutely.
And what's so funny is, in arandom twist, we decided to
watch the new Top Gun, whichcame out a couple years ago, but
you hadn't seen it.
I had taken a video and I hadkind of forgotten, like I just
remember.
Oh, they're flying and ofcourse, the only one they can
send in is Tom Cruise.

Speaker 2 (45:09):
Well, of course Tommy's got to be the guy
Maverick he's only in his 60s.

Speaker 3 (45:11):
But let's send him over to do the most dangerous
thing, and it's all about aflight to take bombs into an
undisclosed location, nuclearfacility, to drop a bomb down
into the nuclear facility.
I was like how did how did TomCruise know about this?
Uh, 10 years ago, when theywrote the script for this thing,
and then make it such, I meanlike now watching it after
literally the week after thisbombing took place.

(45:33):
It's exactly the same storyline.

Speaker 2 (45:35):
I was like it's exactly the same storyline.
They went in with F 18s whichyou know older in B2s, and
sending in a 30,000 pound bombs.
But yeah, it was the same exactconcept.

Speaker 3 (45:44):
Yeah, it really was kind of crazy, but so if you
haven't seen the new Top Gun,watch it, because now it's even
super.

Speaker 2 (45:50):
Oh, it's fantastic.
Yeah, it is.
It's great.
It was great Tommy's great.

Speaker 3 (45:59):
Okay, something that's not so great, and I hate
to be the bearer stuff like thisbecause it matters who we vote
for for school boards, formayors, for our governor, for
anybody that represents us inthe state.
I think this all triggers backto this kind of stuff.
This brand new data that's outsays that New Mexico has been
named the most dangerous statein the US to raise a family.

(46:20):
As a mother myself, and, as Iknow, so many of you out there
that are listening are parents Idon't know how this doesn't
just make your blood boil, makeyou scared of things.
I mean, make you be moreprotective of your own kids and
of yourself.
Your head's on a swivel here.

Speaker 2 (46:34):
Well, and it's based on FBI crime data.

Speaker 3 (46:35):
Yeah, it's based on FBI crime data.
So it says New Mexico has beendubbed the riskiest state in the
US for raising a family.
According to a new map based onFBI crime data.
The data shows that New Mexicotops the list with the highest
rate of violent crimesnationwide.
It also ranks second in termsof homicide rates, with 12 per
100,000 residents, and is thirdworst for property crimes,

(46:57):
recording 2,998,.
So, basically, 3,000 incidentsper 100,000 people.
That's incredibly high.
It's incredibly high.
Look at this map, okay.
So anything that's in incidentsper 100,000 people, that's
incredibly high.
It's incredibly high.
Look at this map, Okay.
So anything that's in the darkpurple okay, which we are.
We're number one.
We're the darkest purple, mostpurple we can see.
Right.
On this state map?
Yeah, and.

Speaker 2 (47:16):
Washington state's up there.

Speaker 3 (47:17):
Colorado's there and Louisiana is in the.

Speaker 2 (47:20):
Yeah, louisiana is up there.
Yeah, louisiana's up there,oregon's up there.

Speaker 3 (47:23):
By the way, I guess we're all moving to Idaho
because it's bright yellow, orMaine.
Those seem to be the safestplaces in the country, right?

Speaker 2 (47:29):
now New England's pretty safe and you know it is,
and these are the numbers we'vetalked about before and they are
.
It's an ugly.
It's an ugly number that youknow.
And, again, I think you know wehave to, and this is where my
biggest argument has been withthe legislature that they have
not taken this seriously.
They just won't pass meaningfulcrime prevention bills.

(47:50):
They just won't.
And I think you've seen, atpost 2022 election, the governor
woke up and was like well, weneed to address these issues,
thank you.
Yeah, a little late, but hey buthey, but now she's also
fighting a legislature.

Speaker 3 (48:03):
Now they won't do it, but hey, but now she's also
fighting a legislature.
Now they won't do it.
But it's maddening though, Mark, when you look at stuff like in
our mayor's race right now, andyou've got Keller out there
saying that we have a safe state, we don't have a safe city.
No, we don't.
So it's like it's just snowingpeople.
Can we actually just deal withthe crime situation?
People want to know why webacked Aaron White.
We backed Aaron White becausebecause he takes crime seriously
, right, and that's one of thebiggest issues we have in this

(48:24):
city, and I know people don'twant to talk about that, but
that's the truth.
Now we're going to talk aboutmore fun things.

Speaker 2 (48:28):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (48:28):
Okay, our kid is back .

Speaker 2 (48:30):
She's back, everybody she's back, thank you for
joining.

Speaker 3 (48:33):
Did you miss me?

Speaker 2 (48:34):
We did miss you.

Speaker 3 (48:39):
I was actually talking to the audience.
Oh, okay, ava has come in afterfive weeks in Africa on a
mission trip.
Yes, and with a fresh batch ofmalaria yes.

Speaker 10 (48:49):
I do I do have malaria.
That was not for show.
I do have malaria.
Yeah, I know, and we even tookyou to get all the drugs.
Yeah, I know, I did takepreventative medicine and it
didn't work.

Speaker 2 (48:58):
Okay, okay, okay, yeah, I know.

Speaker 10 (49:00):
Keep that in mind.
Yeah, we can't have that.

Speaker 2 (49:01):
I've been away too long.
I know it's true, You've got torefocus.

Speaker 10 (49:08):
Yeah, no, you can take preventative medicine all
you want.
You can still get malaria.
Yeah, turns out?

Speaker 2 (49:13):
How was it?
Give us your impressions of it.
It was good.

Speaker 8 (49:20):
So I went to.
Cote d'Ivoire is right there.

Speaker 2 (49:21):
Yes, oh yes, yes, that little part.
Yeah, there we go.

Speaker 10 (49:24):
So that's where I went, here's a little picture.
And I was there for about amonth about and I basically
worked at a university.
I did outreach to the studentsthere and I just went out and
asked them if they knew thegospel and most of them did.
Cote d'Ivoire is 99% religious.

(49:48):
It's about 35% Christian andthen the rest is either Muslim
or various tribal religions, somost people had definitely heard
the gospel at that point.
A lot of people were veryreceptive and we went to an
orphanage as well.
We went to church multipletimes.

Speaker 3 (49:59):
There's a sweet picture of you, Ava, that we
popped up here of you.
Tell us the story.

Speaker 10 (50:04):
So this was church.
We went to church on Pentecostand I came outside and there was
a group of 11 girls justlooking at me and I was talking
with my translator and he saidthey want to touch your hair and
I said, of course they cantouch my hair.
So they did that.

Speaker 3 (50:18):
It was really sweet.
Is it because you had red hair?

Speaker 10 (50:20):
Yeah, it's because I have red hair and then.
So sometimes, you know, I'dwalk by and a group of kids
would like touch my arm.
That happened to a lot of us.
Yeah, I thought it was reallyreally sweet and really
endearing.
I know that it's kind of weirdand frowned upon to touch
strangers in the United States,but they didn't mean it was
sweet of them.
I thought it was actuallyreally nice that they were
curious enough to touch my hair.

(50:41):
They were all really sweet.
Everybody I spoke to there wasincredibly nice.
People are so hospitable.
They'll offer you their food,their drinks, even if it's all
they have.
They'll invite you in.
They'll invite you to spend thenight.
They'll invite you to dowhatever you want.
They're always willing to havea conversation with you.
I really enjoyed that.

(51:01):
And then they're always reallyreceptive about religion.
I think in the United States.
I've done outreach atuniversities here in New Mexico
and people are incrediblyhostile when we try and bring up
the idea of Jesus to them.
They don't like to talk aboutit.
But people in Cote d'Ivoireit's almost like a given for
them.
I remember we were talking toone guy and I was relaying that
to him that in America peopledon't really believe in God and

(51:24):
they're really aggressive aboutthat belief.

Speaker 2 (51:26):
People who don't you mean.
People who don't believe in Godare really aggressive about the
fact that they don't believe inGod.

Speaker 10 (51:31):
Right, and he went Americans don't believe in God.
I said there are a lot ofAmericans that don't believe in
God.
And he said why you live in acountry where everything is
perfect, your country's likeheaven, and you don't believe in
God.
He like couldn't believe it.
He's like we live here and, ofcourse, everybody believes in
God and you live in the UnitedStates, which is supposed to be

(51:52):
the greatest country in theworld, and you don't believe in
God.
And I was like I don't know.
It kind of was a newperspective for me.

Speaker 2 (52:00):
Yeah, super interesting.

Speaker 10 (52:01):
He thought it was like such an immense point of
privilege, the life that we camefrom.
So how could we not crediteverything we'd been given to
some higher power?
He couldn't believe that wejust didn't believe in God, like
certain Americans just didn'tbelieve in God.
I thought that was really kindof admirable.
I really liked it.
I thought it was great, foodwas great.
I didn't expect that it wasreally good.

(52:22):
You said it was hot most time.
Oh my gosh, it was so hot andit was so wet and it was so
rainy.
But that was okay.
I like rain, I like storms,yeah you can see it here, yeah
that's a

Speaker 1 (52:32):
pretty.
Yeah, it rained hard.

Speaker 10 (52:34):
Every single day there was lightning um, it was
great.
There were animals everywherethat I got to pet lots of
kitties yeah, I didn't put thekitty shot in there.
Sorry kiddo, sorry about Iactually went to a market and
there were a bunch of cats thereand the guy handed me a kitten
and he said for you free.

Speaker 2 (52:50):
So so, what do you?

Speaker 10 (52:51):
and I said no.
I wish, I wish I could takethis cat home right now.

Speaker 2 (52:56):
So I guess you know your overall impression of what
did.
What did it do for you?
How do you look at thingsdifferently now versus before
you left?

Speaker 10 (53:05):
Well, definitely, I think and this is going to be an
obvious answer but it is reallyeasy to realize how lucky you
are when you go to a countrylike that, where people are just
glad to be alive, they're justgrateful that they have another
day that they can spend workingwith all four limbs.
That's a really good day forthem and for me, a good day is

(53:26):
not having to do any work andbeing able to lay in my bed and
eat whatever I want, and that'sjust not a privilege that that
people have there.
So it definitely gives you anew perspective on like man.
I really come from such aincredible level of privilege
that I that I like that it'sgoing to permeate through my
entire life.
I will always have anopportunity that these people
will probably never have.
That's really.

(53:47):
That's really something.
It also definitely made merealize a lot of things people
complain about are just so likeso stupid things that I complain
about, like unloading thedishwasher, but even bigger
things, even people, and like Idon't this is political.
But even people complainingthat like, oh, um, like I don't
this is political.
But even people complainingthat like, oh, donald Trump is
this and this is that, and thisis a fascist government that

(54:08):
we're living in.
And it's like no, they haveslaves in Africa still.
Like that's still happening.
Like their Cote d'Ivoire wasplunged into civil war in the
mid 2010s.
People were killing each other.
It was really bad and andaftermath of it was very obvious
.
There, their infrastructure isis struggling, so their their
hospitals are not great, theirroads are terrible, and it's

(54:31):
like we're just so lucky to beliving the way that we are,
because a true government thatdoesn't care about its people
that's that's.
That's where I was and I andI'm really glad that I was able
to see that.

Speaker 3 (54:43):
Okay, and then for the people that are wondering
malaria, real quickly, like whathave been your symptoms,
everything, every symptom ofevery disease I've ever had.

Speaker 10 (54:51):
I have right now I have a headache.
I have I'm coughing, obviouslyStomach ache.
A lot of you know othersymptoms that I don't wish to
discuss.

Speaker 2 (55:01):
Right, tmi.
What's the trajectory of itthen?
What do you do to deal with it?

Speaker 10 (55:05):
Malaria is if you get malaria and you don't treat
it, it's not like the flu orit'll go away.
You will die.
You will die 100% of the time.

Speaker 3 (55:12):
But thankfully your leader took you to the clinic.

Speaker 10 (55:16):
She was wonderful, she had malaria also.
About seven people got malariaon the trip, and so, yeah, so
I'm taking two different coursesof antibiotics.
One is going to kill theparasite, and because malaria is
an actual parasite in yourblood, and then the other one is
just to alleviate symptoms, Ithink.
And the way malaria works,though, is it lives in your

(55:36):
blood forever.
Sometimes, if you catch itearly enough, you can completely
cut it out, which is what I'mhoping to do, because if you get
malaria, you can't donate bloodanymore.

Speaker 3 (55:44):
I know, and you're big, I'm big on donating blood.

Speaker 2 (55:49):
I know, I know.
Well, we're glad that you'reback.

Speaker 3 (55:50):
I mean you guys took you guys 40 hours, with all the
delays, to get home.
It was a 40 hour day of traveland uh, you guys coming off that
escalator at one o'clock in themorning and then half of you
having malaria.
I just felt it.

Speaker 10 (56:01):
I had it pretty bad, but most of the people who had
it had it worse than me, wow.
It was brutal for a lot of thekids we were with.

Speaker 3 (56:08):
Well, abe, we are so excited that you're back.
Yeah, we are, we're blessed.

Speaker 2 (56:11):
We are blessed, we prayed for your safe return and
we are glad that that happened.
Yes, and this is four shortweeks.

Speaker 3 (56:16):
We take her to college.
Yes, so we at home?
Yep, okay.

Speaker 2 (56:21):
Well, thanks for hey.
Do you want to?
You want to sit in for the restof this?

Speaker 10 (56:23):
It's going to be real quick.
What are we discussing?

Speaker 2 (56:25):
Well, hold on, so part of the can.

Speaker 10 (56:27):
I talk about the Basilica.
Sure, real quick, yeah, if youwant to, um so that.
So there's a photo there ofthis beautiful church largest
basilica in the world built andowned by the Vatican.
So it's Vatican property.
It's huge.

(56:47):
They built it in the 1980s.
There's a bunch of motifs forPope John Paul and for the
president of Cote d'Ivoire atthe time, because they both
facilitated the construction ofit.
It's huge.
They used 5,000 differentcolors of stained glass to make
it.
All the wood was sourced fromCote d'Ivoire, then shipped out
to Italy to be made into benchesor columns or doors and then

(57:08):
shipped back.
They do three different massesthere a week.
It's beautiful.
It's so big.
I loved it.
The columns outside that holdthe building up each one weighs
two million pounds.
That's how big they are.

Speaker 2 (57:22):
That is stunning.

Speaker 10 (57:22):
It was so, so beautiful.
I loved it, so I just wanted totalk about it.

Speaker 2 (57:27):
No, no, that's good, good job.
Look at you giving us a coachof war breakdown yeah, just give
it a church break.

Speaker 3 (57:32):
Okay, good job, we'll stick around here because we
just we're just doing ourkickers, all right.
So here.

Speaker 2 (57:36):
Yeah, a couple more quick.
We'll get you out of herequickly.
But you know I had to say as akid of the 80s one of the great
shows was the dukes of hazard oh, yeah, like friday nights, when
you sat down with your parents,you got the dukes of hazard.
Love boat dallas.
No, no it was dukes of hazard,dallas and falcon crest falcon
crest.

Speaker 3 (57:53):
I mean, it was a murder in fantasy.
There you go.

Speaker 2 (57:56):
Yes, saturday night, absolutely tattooing the boys.
Yeah, coming up on saturdaynight, but so anyway, in
Kentucky the other day theybrought out a replica of the
General Lee and he jumped awater fountain and this is what
it looked like.
Here we go, here we go.

Speaker 3 (58:15):
This is crazy.

Speaker 2 (58:17):
Oh, and look at the General Lee lands, and there's
the song.

Speaker 3 (58:22):
But look at the both doors come flying off the
general league and then he hitsthe barricade oh, of course yeah
, that door is just gone oh yeah, oh yeah, that's.

Speaker 10 (58:30):
Both doors are gone is there a driver in that car?
Yeah, oh yeah, I think therewas kiddo, I think there was oh,
there had to be.

Speaker 3 (58:35):
You know, that driver just just took a shot oh, yeah,
when they ended up landingbecause it's not like that,
thing's like full of safety gear.

Speaker 2 (58:42):
Uh, no, no no, I doubt they have a whole lot of
work but there it is, got itdone.

Speaker 3 (58:47):
So I would not be the people sitting at the end of
that street.

Speaker 2 (58:49):
Oh yeah, I guess you don't know what's going to
happen.
That's just me Well those aresome massive cement blocks there
.
I don't care, I'm that person.
I'm always in the worst casescenario.

Speaker 3 (59:13):
And I was not a cheerleader.
I'm, you know, kind of opposedto cheerleading.
Sometimes as I got older Okay,as I mean I when I was in high
school I was like, ah, but tomeh, meh, meh.
But to say, watching thatdocumentary I gained a whole lot
of respect.
One of my best friends, shawna,was a Denver Bronco cheerleader
, so she did teach me a lotabout the programs and I raised

(59:33):
up a little bit and got a littlemore educated on how much dance
goes into all of this oh gosh,yeah, and so the first season
was pretty fantastic and I'mwatching it.

Speaker 2 (59:40):
I'm watching it, so this is on Netflix.
Last year.

Speaker 3 (59:42):
It's on Netflix last year.

Speaker 2 (59:43):
Okay, yep.

Speaker 3 (59:44):
So the show we started watching last year it
was the first season of theDallas Cowboy Cheerleading
documentary and you think that Idon't know how good this is
going to be.
Well, it was fantastically shot.
And then the storylines aboutthese young women auditioning
their dance ability, the factthat they can kick their legs as
high as they can kick them holyability.

(01:00:09):
The fact that they can kicktheir legs as high as they can
kick them Holy cow.
That's a whole.
Nother story Was soentertaining for us.
I actually started watching andI got through halfway through
the season.
One of my best friends, shauna,was a Denver Bronco cheerleader
, so I kind of knew a lot aboutthe programs and how hard and
competitive they are.
So I found this to beabsolutely fascinating.
Well, you come in kind ofhalfway, you get sucked into it
because it is compelling.

Speaker 2 (01:00:25):
It's not only compelling, not only is
storytelling incredible, theshooting of the show is great
and I know you think, oh,cheerleaders, you know, look hot
.
That's not what you get out ofthis.
I will tell you right now it is.
It is unbelievably well done inthe storytelling and it really
is.
I know it sounds crazy for aguy to be like cheerleader show.
Cool show.
It is really well done.

Speaker 3 (01:00:45):
Yeah, so now the second season's come out, yeah,
and I said I'm going to startwatching it I don't know if you
want to be in or not and you'relike, of course, let's check it
out.
And, honestly, we're binging itbecause it's so well done.
The stories are very compellingabout these young women that
are.
It's getting serious.
You know, because last year thatwas kind of the big thing in
the papers were the DallasCowboys cheerleaders going to
get a raise or not?

(01:01:05):
And anyway, it is really reallywell shot.
I mean, you're looking at itjust because we're shooting our
own reality show right now.

Speaker 1 (01:01:11):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:01:12):
And so looking at it from a camera lens perspective,
and the shots.

Speaker 2 (01:01:15):
they take the money spent on this show.
It's hard because we'reshooting.
We're shooting ours on a budget.
But it's a much smaller budgetthan this.
It is so well done.
Now we don't know.
We're about halfway through, sowe don't know exactly how
things are going to turn out.
But I will tell you as far asreality shows go and it is not
some reality show, it's like theReal Housewives of any- it's

(01:01:38):
nothing like that.
You really have the personaltoll of this, because the type
of dancers that you have here,these are skilled women that
were great college dancers andthen you have to be the best of
the best to do this.
This isn't like old school hotchick comes up and starts
jumping around.
That's not what this is.
These girls are so talented andit's so competitive and you

(01:02:01):
can't help but get sucked in byit.

Speaker 3 (01:02:07):
It really is amazing.
Even just the I know it soundskind of cheesy, but even them
just telling the story for theviewer of how difficult that
highline kick is, that they haveto touch their face with it,
their leg, I mean I can't.
I can't get my leg halfway up,so I mean I would have no idea.
You know, talking aboutflexibility and all the
physicality that goes into that,I don't know.
I think what I want to do,though, is I want to record you
and your commentary of the show,because it should be its own
reality show.

(01:02:27):
I mean, you have comments abouteverything from these ladies
that are running theorganization to the boyfriends
of the cheerleaders.

Speaker 2 (01:02:34):
I mean some of these guys are their own story as well
.

Speaker 3 (01:02:38):
So anyway, we won't wreck it for you If you're
looking for kind of anentertaining, light-hearted show
.

Speaker 2 (01:02:43):
It's better than you think.
Let's just say that it's betterthan you think so.

Speaker 3 (01:02:46):
check out the Dallas Cowboy Cheerleaders.

Speaker 2 (01:02:49):
Yeah, called America's Sweethearts, right, I
think it's America's Sweethearts, something like that.

Speaker 3 (01:02:50):
Yeah, it's worth it and so anyway, well, thanks you
guys for joining us.
We appreciate it.

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