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Mark and Krysty unpack the data and what it means for our country moving forward.
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Mark explains how the Trump administration learned from 2017, and why this early push could make all the difference in setting the tone heading into the midterm elections.
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
okay, fourth of july edition I wore my sweater you
did.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
You look great I wore the american flag sweater yeah,
good job I am proud to be anamerican yeah, you are.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Yeah, we're going to talk about that.
Yeah, we are one of the onlyones well, it's not true.
There's a lot of proud to beamericans, but there's some very
significant differences in wayscertain Americans look at being
an American.
And are you proud to be anAmerican?
And that's the first story outof the gate that we're going to
talk about.
Okay, okay, we're going to talkabout that.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Well, it's our 4th of July edition.
It is our 4th of.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
July edition, so we're going to go.
Gallup did the study, so we'llget into that.
Then, obviously, everybody istalking about the big, beautiful
bill that's going to make itsway through the House, now that
it's through the Senate you maywell be watching this and it
will be through the House.
They're trying to get thisthing done by July 4th and
there's a very specific reasonfor that, and I want to talk
about why they're in such a rushto get this thing done, and
(00:57):
we'll talk about differentrepresentations and how it plays
a role.
Some interesting stuff comingfrom Alaska on this that we
could learn from in New Mexico,which we'll do.
And we're going to discuss acouple other things as well.
One of them is that when thepresident of the United States
whoever that is comes to you andyou're a member of Congress and
says I've got to have your voteNow, oftentimes presidents have
(01:21):
a lot of sway over some oftheir members of the same party.
Well, this president, presidentTrump, has more than any
president likely in ourlifetimes with this, so that's
why it's likely going to passand we're going to talk about
why he's got so much sway inthat respect.
We're also going to talk aboutthe Leah Thomas situation, which
has been resolved, and Penn hasstood up and made a comment
(01:44):
about that situation, which hasbeen resolved, and Penn has
stood up and made a commentabout that.
And then we're going to have amovie recommendation, which you
and.
I are going to very, very muchrecommend.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Oh yeah, and it's, you know, going into the 4th of
July.
A lot of times people like togo see a movie during a holiday
weekend.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Yeah, it's a good one .
Speaker 2 (01:57):
We've got one for you .
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
It's solid.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
It's very solid.
It's.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
It is a great's probably one of the best movies
I've seen since Boys on the BoatWow, or Boys in the Boat or
whatever that one was Boys inthe Hood.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Yeah, no, no.
Boys in the Boat.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Boys in the Boat, the rowing movie, university of
Washington.
Yes.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Not a big fan of University of Washington, as you
can tell by my head.
Yes, my hat.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Your hat, yes, the.
Washington State University,which you boys, you have a lot
of yeah, I know, I just threwthis on, I just read.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
I just want I just want to go red, I want to be a
little American flag.
I could have used one.
I don't have one.
You've done your cowboy start-shirt.
Uh, it's still.
It's a little snug.
Now I'm going to be honest withyou.
You gotta lose a little bit.
It'll lose a couple.
No, you're, you're.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
I think you need to slow down on the chest press
that to me is what you need todo.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
All right, let's move on to the comments.
Let's move on to the comments.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Mark gets very uncomfortable whenever I talk
about his lifting and what heshould lift or not lift, he's
like would you please stoptalking to me about this, but I
feel like I have a good idea.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Everybody's clicking off.
Let's go.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
All right, it's our comments.
Tommy Guns comes in hot again.
You had a lot again by yourgame camera.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Yeah, they liked that , huh yeah they liked it.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Nice bull elk in game camera was trying to figure out
what he was eating.
Looked like a cow patty.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
Yeah, I don't think it was a cow patty.
I don't know.
There's not a whole lot therewhere he was, so I don't really
always know.
No-transcript, the crowd lovesit Right.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
So I wanted to show you this some video of.
I just wonder, did Ava not get?
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Ava, did you not get my?
You don't see the pictures.
Speaker 5 (03:50):
You can't throw things on me like this.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
No, no, they're in the rundown.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
It's not in the rundown.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
It's not right after the first comment.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Okay, okay, all right , we're good, we're good.
Speaker 6 (03:57):
That's fine.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
No, sorry, kiddo, I didn't.
I didn't really tell you that.
So so we got a couple littlevideo clips here I want to show
you.
This is from early may.
We got three feet of snow atthe top of agrafia creek.
These are three bears a mom andher three.
That's actually four bears.
You can't see them all here,but it's a mom and her three
yearlings.
It looks like she has sincekicked them out.
By the way, yeah, the cams seethem and they're all separated
(04:20):
out now, and so you can see themall playing around in the snow
although they're checking it up,the mom doesn't move very much
in that video no, she just kindof stood there.
Yeah, we've got some better onesof that.
I will show more of those.
And then we have some turkeys.
This is from the same exacttime frame.
We got some turkeys who came inand there were a ton of these
guys playing around and theywere looks like eating something
there on the ground.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
So yeah, you should have waited and held that one
for our Thanksgiving special,not our fourth of July, I'll get
some more Turkey, don't worry,I'll get some more Turkey.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
So there you go.
So more game, camera action.
I'll have more coming up foryou on.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Sunday.
We did that just for you there.
Okay, all right.
Uh, l Davis rocks.
I'd love the show.
The idea about the Sundayanimals so funny.
Well, there you go.
There.
Ava is home safe.
What an amazing experienceShe'll never forget, and proud
of her for doing something outof her comfort zone for five
(05:09):
weeks.
Prayers she'll completely behealed, hopefully sooner than
malaria.
Yes, you know if I may respondto that.
Speaker 5 (05:18):
The really interesting thing about malaria
is it's a parasite, so it's inyour body for the rest of your
life.
Okay, and it can come back atany time.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Okay congratulations.
Speaker 7 (05:28):
Future sick days for me Locked in.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
You're going to college, kid.
Nobody wants to hear it, it'sthe world's smallest violin.
Speaker 5 (05:36):
When I have a real job, I'd be like.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
I can't come in All we heard is we can't unload the
dishwasher because we've gotmalaria.
I did say that because I wasvery weak at the time.
Okay, yeah, okay.
Moving on, john, beverly, greatepisode as usual.
Glad Ava's home, safely Prayingfor her complete recovery from
malaria.
Thank you, john.
Thank you, john.
And then Patrick Potter saysgreat show, ron Keddy's Welcome
Home, ava, I hope you get pastthe malaria.
(05:59):
Introducing Ella, both thegirls getting a shout out.
Ella would appreciate that.
And let's pray that Mamdani isnot the new way of the
Democratic Party.
And another yes for Sunday gameday.
Y'all be safe and we'll see youWednesday.
Patrick put a lot in thatcomment.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
Yeah, I like it, Patrick.
He hit a lot of the points forus.
He does a great job.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
He's getting some points in there.
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Okay, Thanks, you guys.
That's let's uh, dive kind of inbecause, since we it is the 4th
of July right.
We want to talk about.
I mean, I wish we could getsome music, but we probably
would get copyright infringed ifwe start playing something but
a new.
A new polling shows that noteverybody is as proud to be an
(07:00):
American as I am.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
Well, that's very true.
You are very proud to be anAmerican.
You're the walking embodimentof Lee Greenwood, there's no
doubt.
And it's interesting becauseGallup came out with a poll.
So I started seeing thesenumbers and I was fascinated by
them, because there aresignificant differences between
the political parties and howthey view being proud to be an
American.
So let's go to the basicnumbers right now.
Okay, and here they are.
(07:24):
So, right now, 92% ofRepublicans are proud to be
Americans.
Okay, and if you look at wherethe Democrats are, 36% of
Democrats are proud to beAmericans and roughly just over
half of independents are proudto be Americans.
Now, what's interesting is ifyou look at the line especially
let's just start with theRepublican line Okay, that line
(07:45):
is pretty steady, it doesn'tmatter.
Like you can see the years onthe bottom, right.
So we go back to 2001,.
Right, okay, so that's George WBush, 9-11.
You end up with basically ahundred percent of Republicans,
right after 9-11, are proud tobe Americans, and that number
stays right around 90%.
I mean, you know, 90, 92, 94,right in there.
Republicans in general areproud to be Americans and that
number stays right around 90%.
I mean, you know 90, 92, 94,right in there.
(08:07):
Republicans in general areproud to be Americans.
It does not matter who thepresident is.
For the most part Republicansdon't really care.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
I mean honestly, the biggest drop I'm watching on
this came between 21 and 24.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
Put it back up.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Ava, If you look at that that's the biggest drop it
got.
And it was still at about 87%.
That's really the biggest drop.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Right.
So the consistency issignificant.
Now, democrats going back to2001, again coming out of 9-11,
democrats as well, proud to beAmericans.
And then you see somethinginteresting happen 2008, 2009,
2010,.
Democrats are up around 85%proud to be Americans right, and
then they crater in 2016.
(08:48):
What happens the four years ofTrump?
They crater, okay, they're downat 30, you know about 40% proud
to be Americans.
What happens in 2021?
Joe Biden is elected president,goes right back up again.
Now they don't get super high,they're just in general, between
the two parties, republicansdefinitely tend to be more proud
(09:08):
to be American than Democratare right now.
But the Democrats go back upwith with your uh, with Joe
Biden, and then Donald Trumpelected again, and then all the
way down to 36%.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Okay, it really is, and so they really.
It really depends on who's thepresident.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
There's no, there's no question.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Right Like it has nothing to do with our American
history or us as a country.
It has everything to do withwho's in office.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Well, it doesn't right, but, but I would think
the way they look at it it'sit's different like that.
So let's go ahead and show thenext graph here, ava, just the
Democrats on the list here, andthat's where you can tell that
real kind of rock and rollsituation that, for the most
part, has been on the downwardtrend and obviously, with eight
years of President Trump or twodifferent elections where
(09:53):
President Trump won, it deeplyaffected how they look at this
country.
Okay, and what I would argue isit is two different things.
So, republicans, look at thiscountry, our broader mission as
a country and being a force forgood in the world, that I think
God put us in this positionright, and we have a real
responsibility as a country tobe a force for good in the world
(10:16):
.
That's one thing.
That's are you proud to be anAmerican?
To me, right.
Then there's right track, wrongtrack, that's is the country
going in the right direction?
That's two different things.
So let's look at that numberand those numbers right now.
So what you're looking at hereis an echocardiogram.
It's a little bit, but but whatit is is it's right direction,
(10:36):
wrong track.
Ok now, this number used to be70, 30, you know, 80, 20, wrong
track a couple of years ago,when inflation was sky high and
we were struggling in a lot ofdifferent areas.
Now the numbers are a littlecloser.
So, right direction 43%.
Wrong track 53%.
Okay, that Delta actually inrecent history is not that bad.
(10:59):
Actually it's actually a prettygood number.
But this is one thing.
This is our things.
You know, is the leadershipdoing what you want the
leadership to do?
That's what this number isright and I think that's what
Republicans, I think, fit intothat mold a little easier.
Republicans are like righttrack.
You know, excuse me, wrongtrack, right direction, that's
day-to-day.
(11:19):
Do I like what the president'sdoing?
Do I like where the politicalparties are taking us Right?
That's that one.
But then there's that broadersense of my proud to be an
American, and so that's wherethings are different.
Now, if you go by age and areyou proud to be an American?
This is where things are reallyreally scary Interesting.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
I was looking at this , yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
Go ahead.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Well, I mean just the things that stood out to me as
you're looking at.
You know, generational um, areyou proud or not?
You go back to the silent orthe greatest generation.
It's still.
The Republican side is stillreally strong on this, but still
the strongest side of beingproud to be American is that
silent or greatest generation at77% for Democrats, baby boomers
, 67 of Democrats versus 93% ofRepublicans that are boomers are
(12:01):
proud to be American.
Gen X, which is us, 56% ofDemocrats and then a whopping
92%.
So we're pretty high.
We're as high as the babyboomers on the Republican side
as far as Gen X, yes,republicans are consistent
across the board.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
Really, really.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
But I do love look at Gen Z and I look at that
because it's our kids' age,right, right, you only got 24%
of Gen Z Democrats that areproud.
You've got independents abouthalf, and then the Republicans,
those that that considerthemselves Republicans.
Pretty high for Gen Z, which is66 percent.
Well, I would argue that'spretty low and it's really scary
to me, but like they're alsojust starting and, honestly to
(12:38):
me, I think that's high becausehere's why, Honestly to me, I
think that's high because here'swhy I think I know this is the
old world, the theory of youstart out as a Democrat until
you start paying your own taxesand then you slowly turn to be
more conservative because youwant your more money.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Yeah, if you're not a Democrat when you're 20, you
have no heart.
If you're not a Republican whenyou're 50, you have no brain.
Right, that's the old Right,whether it's you know, I mean
obviously Gen Z.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Right now they're all very young, so I just think
it's 60, we got 66 or 65% of theyoung generation that are more
conservative in that.
I think that's kind ofimpressive, Right.
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Okay.
Well, I just think it is ageneral rule.
You can't be a party based onthe fact that you live in a crap
country.
Do you know what I'm saying?
I mean that's so if I'm lookingat this, ava, can you put it
back up please?
If I'm looking at this right,and you see it and you say, okay
, 77% of the silent generationis Democrats, believe that we're
(13:32):
basically, you're proud to bean American, then you go all the
way down.
Really, what this is an exampleof is pounding people with the
message that you live in acountry that is a nightmare and
the structure of your country ispatently unfair and it is
something you should be ashamedof, not proud of, when in fact,
(13:53):
you live in a country that'sgiven more I think for the most
part more opportunity to peoplefrom across the spectrum on
where they come from or whattheir religious beliefs are, if
they have any religious beliefsat all.
This country has provided moreopportunity than other any other
country in the world, and so Ithink Republicans largely
believe that and Democrats don't, and the problem is or at least
(14:16):
the current iteration, asthings go, and I think it's
incumbent upon a Democrat atsome point to walk up and say
you live in a great country.
You can disagree with yourpolitical opponents, but it
doesn't mean your country isterrible, Right, and I think, as
long as your approach is, thisis a terrible country.
That's a tough, that's a toughsell and I think ultimately, at
the end of the day, you shrinkyour party because of it.
(14:36):
And I think, especially whenyou have, when you're an
oppositional party alone to theperson in the White House.
So if your whole thing is Ihate the guy in the White House,
your party shrinks.
We saw it with Republicans andBarack Obama when all
Republicans could say wasObama's awful, that's not a plan
, that's not a political party,that's an oppositional push that
(14:59):
doesn't attract anyone to youunless the conditions deeply
deteriorate and then you getmore people in, whatever.
But if things roll along forTrump and all the opposition, is
Trump's terrible guy, trump'sawful, that's terrible, it
doesn't work.
It does not work and sayinglook, we were part of a terrible
country that has beenincredibly unfair to people on
the way.
Look, we're not a perfectcountry, there's no question,
(15:20):
right.
But at the same time, a lotmore has gone right in this
country and we've been a force,largely for good in this world
versus a force for evil.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
And listen.
We're getting ready tocelebrate our 249th birthday
next year, 250th birthday fornext year, yeah.
For a democracy, that's prettylong it is.
And it's impressive and I thinkthat we've come great strides.
I think, like you said, there'sthings that we obviously can
still improve upon, but at thesame, I mean holy cow, why does
everybody in the world want tocome to America?
Because we're the greatestcountry in the world.
(15:51):
It's not because, I mean, forour Starbucks, I mean it's not
because of the, you know thingslike that, it's because we offer
the most for people here.
And I just think, come on, Likewhen you all you can do is find
problems or have an attitudetowards it.
Either you're not graspingwhere we've come from and what
is going on in the rest of theworld.
(16:12):
As a comparison, your bubblestoo small, or you just think, I
mean, I guess I just I can'talign with that way of thinking.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
Or you're honestly, you don't have a real great
grasp of of hardship in a lot ofcases or what really does
matter.
So and again, some of that'sour age as much as anything else
.
We say that about all sorts ofkids that we're dealing with,
like you guys only understood.
We've said it to our own kids amillion times.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Right, but I think we were.
I mean you and I registered asRepublicans at the age of 18.
We came out of the Reagangeneration.
I don't think I've ever notbeen proud of our country.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
I agree.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Literally not ever, and I will say.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
But we and I do think , though, in what you're seeing
now is with everything that'shappened with Iran and these
other areas, you know, becauseyou have a lot of Republicans
who stand up and say, well, weneed to withdraw from the world,
we don't need to be involved init.
And I understand the foreverwars thing, I get that, but
America does have to be involvedaround the world.
We do need to have a role andwe can be a force for good in so
(17:14):
many different ways.
So I don't like to hear whenRepublicans are like, let's just
withdraw from like that.
To me, that isolationist right,I think it's damaging, just
like I always believed it wasdamaging when it came from the
left.
And so I do think we have tohave a role Now.
It doesn't mean you get involvedin wars and you got boots on
the ground and all this otherstuff, but when you provide the
moral clarity in the world, Ithink that boosts the feelings
(17:37):
of your populace, whether theybe young or old.
They say wait a minute, we domake a difference, we do matter,
and I think that's important.
And I think that's reallyimportant for a president to
stand up and not apologize forwho America is, but stand up,
make good decisions and makesure that America continues to
be a force that makes this abetter world and not one that
(17:58):
makes this either.
You know, we either get into abunch of stuff we shouldn't be
involved in, or we're justdeciding that we're going to
completely withdraw and let theworld just kind of spin out of
control, because that's not howit works.
The world's not just going tospin out of control and leave
America alone.
By the way, Right.
They're coming, so for whateverthat means, Right, exactly, okay
.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
Well, so the big beautiful bill, it is passed out
of the Senate.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Now it returns back to the house.
You seem to think that you're.
You seem to think that thiswill all get taken care of by
Friday.
Yeah, I do not think it will.
I think there's going to beenough back and forth.
It's going to get thrown backto the Senate.
There's going to be changesmade in the house.
Okay, that's my thinking.
I could be wrong, but I justthink.
I think we're still a couple ofweeks out from this thing
(18:41):
actually getting across thefinish line.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
That's my two cents on it.
Yeah, okay, and no.
So, um, no, no, no, no, no, no,no, you may, you may, be right.
I think that the house is goingto end up adopting what the
senate did and no changes.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
Well, no, they've had changes, so they voted on it
once and then, it's going backfrom the senate but you're
saying that you think that thehouse is going to take it back
and they're not going to makeany more changes to this.
That's roughly.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
Yeah, I think, effectively that's what's going
to happen so now.
But there are two main lines ofcriticism that have come up
along this front, especiallyfrom the left, where they've
said, ok, look, you can't cutMedicaid and you're going to cut
rural hospitals, ok.
And so I want to go through acouple of clips from CNN where
Scott Jennings was on the frontlines of this thing and and
(19:25):
pushing back against Casey Hunt,and I think he does a good job
here and this is going to befascinating.
A good job here and this isgoing to be fascinating.
So I want to get through acouple of these clips and then
I'll explain why I think thetiming on this thing is critical
and why it is going to end upbeing passed here very quickly
and they're going to have asigning ceremony within the next
few days, because I thinkthey're trying to accomplish one
key thing.
But let's start with some of thecriticism of people like Josh
(19:46):
Hawley, who said, hey, I do notwant to cut Medicaid, and he
ended up voting for it.
Ok, and we'll explain what theMedicaid cuts are like.
What is it?
He says wait a minute, whywould you ever cut Medicaid?
Scott Jennings explains why youwould cut Medicaid.
It's very important to listento why.
Speaker 7 (20:00):
I have to say Scott him saying I'm not going to vote
for Medicaid cuts, and then hevoted for this bill which, like
very clearly, does cut Medicaid.
Speaker 4 (20:05):
Yeah, but who does't get off grandma's couch despite
being able bodied adults?
But hang on, this is aprotection.
Speaker 7 (20:14):
I actually know too much about this because I used
to be a health care policyreporter on Capitol Hill.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 7 (20:20):
Putting that hat on for a second the people that are
really going to suffer, and thereason this is a problem for
Lisa Murkowski and Josh Hawleyare the rural hospitals with
emergency rooms into whichpeople like that may walk, and
if they don't have Medicaid,they're not getting any.
That hospital is not gettingany money from that person or
from the federal government.
Speaker 4 (20:37):
Well, the Senate included a massive fund for
rural hospitals.
I think it was a $50 billion ordo they wind up, I forget where
they wind up but a massive fundto cover just what you're
talking about.
So some care was put intothinking about how do you
protect rural hospitals fromdownside outcomes.
So I think that's one of thereasons they're ultimately going
to get it over the line isbecause they actually work to
fix little individual piecesthat had people upset about it.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
OK, so we'll get to more of this in a second, but
effectively he says this whenpeople say Medicaid being cut,
what they're really talkingabout here is adding a work
requirement in OK, which we'llexplain here in just a second,
which, by the way, was added byBill Clinton back in the
nineties.
Right.
So that was something that BillClinton backed up and, by the
way, paul Begala, who you'reabout to hear from on CNN, was
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Clinton's main guy on this waswhere they said hey, yeah, if
you're able to work, you shouldwork.
That that's what it says.
And people that are hereillegally do not get to get
Medicaid as they are right now.
They have to get right with thesystem before they could take
advantage of Medicaid.
Ok, so, and then the ruralhospitals.
So I'll get to the ruralhospitals in a second, but Paul
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Begala believes this is theDemocratic strategist.
Speaker 9 (21:44):
He's like this is catastrophe for Republicans if
they pass this for Republicansif they pass this, if you're a
Republican, if you lie awake atnight, unable to sleep, worried
that somewhere, someone who's aworking person is getting health
care, this will be the biggestcut in Medicaid in American
history.
Medicaid is very popular, bythe way.
Republicans carried people onMedicaid.
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They won their votes.
And this is what gets me Smartpoliticians reward people who
vote for them.
Great politicians reach out topeople who didn't vote for them
and bring them in, but stupidpoliticians punish their voters.
This bill is a politicalsuicide note for the Republican
Party.
Last time they tried this, theDemocrats won 41 House seats.
After Trump's first midterm,they'll exceed that this time
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489 days.
They'll do better than 41 seats.
This is absolute death knellfor the House Republicans Maybe.
Speaker 4 (22:32):
Senate too.
I should have started myremarks by thanking you, because
it was President Bill Clintonin the 90s that thought of work
requirements for Medicaid.
Speaker 9 (22:39):
But two-thirds of people on Medicaid already work.
Speaker 4 (22:41):
Which is all we're doing here.
Speaker 6 (22:42):
They already do it.
They already do it, we did it.
Speaker 4 (22:45):
As you said, we did it in the 90s If you want to get
your Medicaid and if you're anillegal alien, you're not going
to get your Medicaid.
Everybody else is going to befine 14 generational welfare
reform built on your all's ideas.
So I thank you.
Speaker 9 (22:57):
I sincerely thank you in Kentucky, which I love.
I'm a Kentucky colonel.
You're a Kentucky citizen.
I'm a colonel.
I'm also a colonel.
I love your comment.
Love it.
One third of people in thatCommonwealth are on Medicaid.
Fifty four percent in easternKentucky.
Fifty four percent in easternKentucky.
Fifty four percent.
And they stand in line in therain to vote for Donald Trump
and he's stabbing him in theback.
Speaker 4 (23:13):
I disagree.
It's a fact that people, thepeople, are family family people
who work, the people who aretrying, the people who need it,
the people who are taking careof kids and other family members
.
Those people are protected.
We're protecting the safety netfrom those who are gaming the
system or shouldn't even be inthe country legally at all.
Speaker 7 (23:30):
All right, well, let's turn to-.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
So interesting stuff.
So this is the debate and wealways talk about.
The easiest, cleanest argumentin politics usually wins.
So the Democrats right now aresaying you're cutting Medicaid
because technically it's true,you are going to cut out some
Medicaid spending that'sfraudulent, so and you should do
that as a government, you haveto be able to stop fraudulent
spending.
Okay, so the argument back andforth.
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So it's an easier argument ifyou're on the left for this and
so.
But here's what's interestingback when Trump passed in 2017,
the Trump tax cuts, those bigtax cuts which ended up being
very good for the economy, right, okay, they ended up passing
those tax cuts less than a year,only 10 months before the
midterm elections.
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So what happened was theypassed the tax cuts.
There wasn't enough time inthere for the economy to jump up
like it did from those tax cuts, and they were hugely
beneficial.
We've talked about this amillion times on this show.
Those tax cuts were some of thevery best tax cuts at helping
low income and middle incomepeople advance higher along the
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economic scale.
It's undeniable.
When you go back and look atthe numbers, 82% of people in
the United States of America gota significant tax cut and it
helped them.
Okay, so that's why they'regoing to be permanent.
This bill makes them permanent.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
And that's the really I think that's the thing that
we make sure people understandis that's the reason this thing
is being pushed so fast isbecause of those permanent tax
cuts.
That's the whole goaloriginally of this bill.
Right now, a lot of things havebeen added in, but that was the
biggest.
That was the biggest.
Like benchmark or deadline islike hey, let's make those cuts
across the board for everybody,not just for the super rich,
which is what the Democrats wantto believe, but for everybody
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and then make those tax cutspermanent.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
Right, that's what you believe, but for everybody.
And then make those tax cutspermanent, right and so in your
points, well taken, right.
So you want that stuff therepermanently.
But look at the date.
Look at the date.
Right now we're getting it.
We're getting close to July 4th2025.
That is roughly 18 monthsbefore the midterm elections.
The reason they are pushing sohard is because they learned the
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lesson in 2017.
They passed the bill too closeto the midterm elections so you
could not see the benefit, butnow they're pushing it out
further.
They know they push those taxcuts permanently.
They do things like no tax ontips, no tax on Social Security,
no tax on overtime.
All of a sudden, you see theeconomy gain more momentum, and
that's why Republicans are goingto do this now.
(25:53):
Okay, they have to, they knowit.
But here's the bet they'remaking, and this is what's going
to be so important.
When you listen to people thatare the opponents of this bill,
they speak in catastrophic terms.
Snap.
Benefits from needy childrenare going to go away.
Medicaid is going to go away.
Rural hospitals are going toclose.
We're going to go away.
Medicaid is going to go away.
Rural hospitals are going toclose.
We're going to find out.
And if all those things startto happen, paul Begala will be
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right the Republicans will getdestroyed in the midterm
elections.
If those things don't happenwhich spoiler alert?
They're not going to, and whenthey don't, all of a sudden, all
the screaming about what'sgoing to happen.
None of it happens will end uphappening and it will look like
they were the boy who cried wolfright.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
Well, and speaking of somebody who's crying wolf,
let's just take a little ganderat one of our own, from the
state of new mexico, theresaledger fernandez, just talking
about how catastrophic thiswhole, this whole bill is, and
she's going to go set itstraight yeah, and by the way,
she did this, I think, on latetuesday yeah, she was going in.
She's going to go in and setall straight, so let's take a
listen to what she's going to do.
Speaker 6 (26:58):
The Republicans over there in the Senate just passed
that big betrayal of a bill andit is ugly.
It got uglier from the Senate,from the House version, if you
can only imagine that.
You know what.
It steals health care coveragefrom everybody you know, unless
you're friends with a bunch ofbillionaires and millionaires
because it cuts Medicare forseniors, it throws people out of
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Medicaid coverage, closes ourrural hospitals If you are a
woman, don't think about gettingreproductive health care from a
Planned Parenthood or even fromyour own private insurance.
And guess what?
For those of you who are on theAffordable Care Act, it is
going to increase your premiumsin some places by 500%.
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So nobody is safe under thisbill.
I'm on my way to rules.
We are going to fight it hourafter hour after hour, because
we want to see if anyRepublicans on the House side
have the courage to stand up fortheir constituents.
I want you to stay tunedbecause the fight is on.
We are not giving up and wewill remember where people stand
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.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
Okay, thank you so much.
Wow, let's see how much impactshe has on the legislation.
Right, let's just see, like,how impactful she is, because
you brought in this fantasticstory that I think I didn't even
know about.
So I want you to actuallyexplain it a little bit more.
But we have a representativecoming in from Alaska.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
Senator, senator right.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
Who came in from Alaska who was kind of opposed
this bill too, but she wasn'tjust like I'm going to be
opposed to this Right.
She actually started thinkingsmartly about.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
Yeah, and I think this gets back to our point
where we we have a lot of timestalked about our criticism of
the representation in Congressthat we have in New Mexico is
you know where they're voting.
You don't even have to ask.
You know the five votes fromthe state of New Mexico, three
in the House and two in theSenate.
You know where they're votingevery time.
They are absolute, hyper,hyper-partisan politicians, so
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you never have to wonder wheretheir vote's going.
You never have to wonder ifthey're going to say you know
what my state, I can't do thisto the people of my state.
They won't do that.
They'll do whatever they needto do to vote along party lines.
You just never have to wonder.
Now we've had some great NewMexico leaders who you did have
to wonder, and they would crossthe aisle, they would work with
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other people.
They would say no, no, no, I'mnot doing this.
You had the Pete Domenici's ofthe world and the Jeff
Bingaman's of the world and theHeather Wilson's and the Jos Joe
ski.
Like you had some really good.
Even even the bill Richardson'sof the world.
You didn't always know.
Okay, no, it doesn't mean thatthey're not with their party.
You couldn't say that about.
Of course, the minute she was astrong Republican.
Of course Binghamon was astrong Democrat.
You're not saying that that'sfine, but but?
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But you had.
People in the Senate areabsolutely banked votes and they
never matter.
They never matter.
There's never a reach out toSenator Heinrich to see if you
can get his support on somethingthat maybe other members of his
party wouldn't support.
It just never happens.
Now, OK, so you bring up LisaLisa Murkowski.
She is the senator from Alaska.
Now.
Lisa Murkowski is not ahardcore Republican.
(30:20):
Ok, she is further left than me, there's no question about that
.
She's further left than you.
Ok, we, you know there aredefinitely a bunch of issues
where we don't agree with LisaMurkowski, but she is a
Republican and her sensibilitiesdo tend to lie with Republicans
.
Many times, Not always, shefrustrates people, Don't get me
wrong.
She frustrates people on herown side.
But I want you to read a littlebit about what she did with this
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bill.
So she was the swing vote inthe bill because you had Rand
Paul who said he's not votingfor this.
Ok, you had Tom Tillis who saidhe's not voting for this.
Again, those two said too muchspending, need more cuts.
We're not doing it so fine,they go away.
And then you had Susan Collins.
She also kind of anindependent-minded senator from
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Maine and she said I'm notvoting for it.
Okay, so well, now you're 50-50.
Okay, if you lose Murkowski,you're done you.
It doesn't.
Jd can't come.
Jane, you know, save the world,save the world, right, okay.
So listen to how this shakesout with Lisa Murkowski.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
Okay.
At 3 am, Tuesday, withPresident Trump's sprawling
domestic policy bill in troubleon the Senate floor, no one had
more leverage than Senator LisaMurkowski, With two GOP senators
firmly opposed and SenatorSusan Collins, a Republican from
Maine, likely to vote no.
The senior senator from Alaskawas the pivotal vote for Trump's
legislative agenda.
Murkowski, a patient and ofteninscrutable moderate Republican,
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was dead set on amending thebill to benefit her constituents
and softening the blow fromspending cuts in the package.
So let's look what she actuallyasked for.
By 5 am, so two hours later,Medicaid officials were on the
phone with staffers representingAlaska's other and more
conservative Republican senator,Dan Sullivan, to iron out rural
hospital provisions that wouldhelp Murkowski get to a yes.
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Senate Majority Leader JohnThune could have chosen to
shrink the bill's debt ceilingincrease to sway Rand Paul, the
Republican from Kentucky, oradjust the Medicaid provisions
to woo Senator Tom Tillis, theRepublican from North Carolina,
and Collins, but instead he gavemore to Alaska and it worked.
And what does that mean?
It means that they ended upadding $25 billion more for
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rural hospitals, which willactually end up benefiting New
Mexico.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
Right, it's a $50 billion fund now.
So what that says is if ruralhospitals serve people that
aren't able to pay themeffectively, you're going to
have more funds available fromthe federal government to
backstop those hospitals.
So when you hear TeresaFernandez they're closing all
the hospitals.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
Teresa Fernandez-Ledger.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
Ledger Fernandez, ledger Fernandez, yep.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
Saying, oh well, they're going to cut all of our
rural hospital funding.
No, they're not.
They actually just added thebill in.
So again, that was addedyesterday.
She made that video on Tuesday,Right?
Speaker 1 (32:58):
Yeah, it's not it's not the most honest criticism in
the world, but at the same time, that's in a political world.
That's what they do, right,they do those things.
But the reason I bring upMurkowski in this particular
case is what does she do?
She looks at the people of herstate and says, okay, I know
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what need to pass these tax cuts.
I know that if I don't passthem, taxes are going up on
every Alaskan.
I cannot have that Like.
That's a bigger deal than anyof this.
She knows that, so she knowsshe's got to get to.
Yes, she knows she does, and soshe's like.
But I got to make sure thatMedicaid is in a position.
And those small rural hospitalsbecause Alaska is like New
Mexico.
They have a million littlerural hospitals not a million,
but a lot right that are reallyisolated.
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You have to care for people inthose hospitals.
So she knows it.
So she uses her position tohelp the people of her state.
I think that's a huge deal.
And she isn't saying I'm aRepublican so I'm going to vote
Republican.
She ended up doing that, butnot before she got something for
the people of her state.
We don't ever see that from thepeople in this state.
We don't ever see them say hell, no, I'm not going to sell out
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the people of my state tosupport my party.
I don't care about my party, Icare about the people of my
state.
Where is that?
Speaker 2 (34:08):
Yeah, why were they not creative, even as a as a
five sum, to get together andsay, okay, listen, this thing's
going to pass.
We know what's going to pass.
What is it in this that wewould that we really need to
make sure we're protecting forthe people?
Speaker 1 (34:21):
of New Mexico.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
They didn't do that, they're just going to vote no,
and then their vote, as you said, isn't even going to matter,
Like that's what.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
So it's just it never does, it never makes, never
does.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
Okay, but all of this to say, Trump has never been
more more popular than he isright now, which I think is
interesting with Republicans,with Republicans, yeah.
Right with his own party.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
So let's just take a look at this.
This is the latest pollingbasically talking about his
first five months in office, andhow does he compare to previous
presidents at about the sametime in their presidency?
Speaker 9 (34:54):
I mean every politician would like this
number here, especially to seeit go up.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
How about compared to other presidents who were
Republicans?
Speaker 3 (35:02):
Yeah, it's history making.
It's history making.
What are we talking about here?
So why don't we look back?
We have all the president.
Oh sorry, One quick thing, justa quick pause on this.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
What these numbers are.
Just so you know, we probablyshould have that strongly
support.
So so this is these are thehardcore like he's doing.
Great, yeah, ok that.
But that's that, it is anapproval.
It's it's hey, look, this isstrongly approved.
So that that's a hardcorenumber.
So you would look at that andbe like, oh, only 63 percent of
Republicans approve of Trump.
(35:31):
No, no, no, no.
These are 63 percent.
Say I really approve of whathe's doing.
That's a huge number.
Ok, keep going.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
So I asked 35, 36, 37 years?
What are we talking about?
Gop, who strongly approved fivemonths?
And look at this George HW Bush, bush 41, 46 percent.
Bush 43, 59.
You see Trump, the first term,53.
But look at this Sixty threepercent.
He beats all the otherRepublicans on the board here
and I was looking even backsince Reagan and get this Donald
Trump beats Ronald Reagan whenit comes to the strongly
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approved five months and ofcourse, reagan was coming off
that high after thatassassination attempt.
So the bottom line is DonaldTrump is making history with the
Republican base.
He is more beloved by thisRepublican base than any
Republican base loved any GOPpresident.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
Okay.
So why does this matter?
This matters because when yougo to the United States Senate
and you start twisting arms,when you were in the kind of
position that Trump is with hisown party, and he says everybody
loves me, do what I'm askingyou.
I know it's going to be toughand I know you're getting a lot
of blowback, because anypolitical fight like this
(36:40):
there's a ton of blowback.
You're not going to get aperfect bill, but you're going
to get a bill that's going toimprove the lives of Americans.
Do what I need you to do.
This is why they fall in line.
This is why he got just enoughvotes to get it done and,
believe me, if he didn't getMurkowski, he'd have gotten
Collins, and if he didn't getCollins, he'd have gotten Tillis
.
Whatever it was, he got who heneeded.
(37:01):
And the same thing's going tohappen in the House and it's
going to happen over the nextcouple of days.
And they're going to get thisthrough, because when you have a
president who's got a 63%strong approval in his own party
, he has tremendous power he hastremendous power.
Speaker 2 (37:15):
Interesting enough, okay, well, and then obviously
this also kind of molds into theprimary and like when Trump
backs you in a Republicanprimary, is there a shot for the
other guys, right?
Like, if you have a Trumpendorsed candidate in the
(37:39):
Republican primary, should youjust bow out at that point if
you don't have his, his stamp ofapproval on you?
According to this recent poll,probably so, apparently.
So take a look at this.
Speaker 3 (37:46):
Donald Trump.
The Times Trump endorsed andendorsed these won the GOP
primary for governor andcongressional races.
Look at this Twenty twenty four, Ninety six percent, twenty
twenty two, ninety five percent,twenty percent, 2020, 98
percent.
The bottom line is this 95percent plus of the time the
Trump endorsed candidate wins inGOP primaries.
And even in the cases whereDonald Trump endorses a
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challenger to an incumbent, themajority of time that challenger
wins.
So Donald Trump is a winner.
In Republican primaries, you goagainst Donald Trump.
To quote the movie Good Burger,you go in the grinder.
Donald Trump is the key nugget.
His endorsement is the keynugget in a GOP primary because
he's historically stronglypopular with the GOP.
Speaker 2 (38:25):
OK, ok, but we should add I mean, I think it's
important for a state like NewMexico that, yes, his
endorsement in a GOP primary isimportant, but it can also be a
ding for that same person in thegeneral yeah, maybe, yeah, yeah
.
Speaker 1 (38:40):
It depends on the state, of course.
But yeah, but this is about armtwisting on a bill that's in
front of them right now, knowingthat Trump comes out and says
I'm going to get you primariedIf he's going to do that.
That's a real threat and itmeans something is what Harriet
is basically saying, so youshould be scared of that.
Now we will tell you a littlebackground story, and we've
talked about this before on thisshow.
We, when we were running forgovernor in 2022, Rebecca Dow
(39:03):
was pushing super hard to getTrump's endorsement.
Now I will say this about Trumpand some of those numbers when
Trump doesn't think you're goingto win, or it doesn't look like
you will win, he doesn'tendorse you, so that's why those
numbers look really good tooright so it's both it's the
Trump and usually it comes inpretty late, usually, well, not
always there are plenty ofpeople he'll endorse nice and
early, but it just depends onthe situation and if you want
(39:25):
his endorsement and how it allworks.
But Dow was pushing super hardfor him and we started to think,
oh my gosh.
And we knew we were up, we knewwe were winning significantly.
And so when we heard Dow waspushing hard for this, we
reached out to the Trump peopleand said, okay, if you're going
to do this, just realize.
We sent them our pollingnumbers and we said, if you're
going to do this, you're goingto have an uphill fight and
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there's a good chance you'regoing to lose, so don't do this.
And so we pushed a lot ofinformation their way.
And now, were we right?
Would Dow have made up all theground on us and made up 40
points and beat us?
Probably not, but I don't know.
It would have been a whole heckof a lot closer.
The second she got thatendorsement, our lead goes from
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40 points down to at most 15.
Right, so that's close.
So we treated that veryseriously and so that just gives
you an insight into candidates.
Know that you do not want tostep on that Trump rake right
and you don't want it hittingyou right in the forehead and so
that that stuff is importantand so you got to be careful.
(40:27):
So we ended up talking toTrump's people enough that they
said, okay, we'll stay out.
Speaker 2 (40:31):
Yeah, they just did out of it, completely Right, and
that gets back to Trump'ssuccess level of 96, 97, 98%.
Speaker 1 (40:37):
Some of it is that his his help matters.
It absolutely matters, it doeshelp.
But at the same time, too, he'ssmart enough to know okay, I'm
not going to go, I'm not goingto go fight a battle that I may
lose.
When it's really close, likethat, sometimes, he'll stay,
stay out of the race, like youdid with us in the primary in
the governor's race in 2022.
Speaker 2 (40:55):
Right, okay, interesting enough, all right.
So let's talk a little bitabout this.
Speaker 1 (40:59):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (40:59):
CNN.
Speaker 1 (41:00):
I don't know what this is Okay, I added it in at
the last second.
You added it in like 20 secondsago.
Speaker 2 (41:03):
No, no no.
Speaker 1 (41:04):
So I just wanted to say finally putting a bow on
some of the over-the-topcriticisms right and
over-the-top criticisms,especially from media or from
other politicians.
People just roll their eyes,and I just want to give you a
little example.
We've talked about USAID andthe fact that they're taking the
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funding from USAID and pullingsome of it back.
That was inappropriate.
And then the stuff that wasneeded is being reapportioned in
different ways through theState Department.
Ok, that's what's happeningwith it.
And so now CNN got a hold of anew study that's out, and they
want everyone to know that thereis death on the horizon.
Speaker 8 (41:42):
Secretary of State Marco Rubio is hailing the end
of USAID, the nation's largestforeign aid agency, even as a
new analysis finds that itsclosure could contribute to some
14 million deaths in the nextfive years.
14 million deaths, wow.
Speaker 2 (41:56):
next five years, oh, my God.
Speaker 4 (41:57):
Shut up 14 million deaths.
Speaker 2 (42:00):
Wow, who knew?
Who knew that NGOs were savingthat many lives?
Speaker 1 (42:06):
You know, and so look , and again, there's plenty of
aid that we give out to othercountries that we're going to
continue to give out to othercountries that desperately need
it.
Speaker 2 (42:12):
The actual NGOs that are making a difference is who
continues to get the money Right.
Speaker 1 (42:16):
So anyway, it just cracked me up.
Speaker 2 (42:18):
So anyway, I just had to stick it in there I'm going
to start throwing things in herethat you don't have a chance to
read it.
Speaker 1 (42:21):
Yeah, no, no, no problem, I appreciate it.
And then I'm just going tostart throwing things and then
I'm going to have you read it.
You looked at me and you.
Speaker 2 (42:32):
So basically just real recently, upenn now
apologizing and basically saying, hey, we're going to pull away
all of Leah Thomas's winsbasically or rankings.
Speaker 1 (42:44):
Yep, it's women and women's sports again from Penn.
And basically this comes downto the Trump administration
pressuring the University ofPennsylvania and saying you
can't do this, you can't do this.
And so what they agreed to do,what Pennsylvania agreed to do,
was contact the athletes thatwere affected at the time and
apologize to them for what theydid.
And remember, there areswimmers at the University of
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Pennsylvania who were on theteam at the time who said
administration came in andthreatened them and said if you
don't keep your mouth shut,things are not going to go well
for you.
I mean, they were strong-armed.
And there have been women whohave come out and said this was
awful, what happened to us.
And these are people on thePenn team and said this was not
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right.
And so when you look at therecords from that particular
time that Thomas said those arebeing wiped away.
When you look at the titles,those are being wiped away.
And so Penn has definitelypivoted on this whole thing, and
I think you've got people likeRiley Gaines who are saying amen
, people that were on theUniversity of Pennsylvania team
at the time saying thankgoodness we get our sport back.
(43:50):
And it's amazing because thishas changed quite a bit,
obviously, you know, since wewere talking about it a few
years ago and leadership in thiscase mattered.
Speaker 2 (43:57):
I know, and I mean honestly, riley Gaines was one
of our very first guests on theshow.
So I mean, this has been a longway, a long haul, to try to get
this back to some sort of senseof normalcy.
So it'll be interesting to seewhat shakes out from this.
Speaker 1 (44:09):
But taking away certain metals from certain
swimmers that now they're saying, listen, we're going to correct
this, correct this, wrong, yeah, and one of the swimmers from
the university of Pennsylvaniasaid you know, the thing nobody
talks about is there were girlson our team who had to sit out,
that were that just couldn'tcompete Right Because Thomas
competed Right.
So this is something that Ithink, obviously.
(44:31):
I think more and more peopleare and, again, this has always
been an 80, 20 issue, you know.
So I think more and more peopleare waking up to the 80.
Speaker 2 (44:38):
I think it's a 90-10 issue now.
Speaker 1 (44:40):
I really do.
I think it's shifting.
Speaker 2 (44:45):
I think it's less and less people are saying that
this is a normal way of living.
But okay, well, let's end theshow with something kind of fun
to talk about, because it's the4th of July.
A lot of people like to go tothe movies with their families,
the movies with their families,and it's exciting, and you know.
And so Mark and I Mark veryrarely, by the way, just for
those very rarely we'll go withme to the actual movie theater
to see a movie, and this is onethat you wanted to see, yeah,
(45:05):
and I was like oh, brad Pitt'sin it.
Oh, I guess, pull my arm, I'llgo Right.
Speaker 1 (45:10):
Drag me kicking, I'd have a.
Yeah, I'd have BP in there.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (45:18):
So it is called F1.
It is about Formula One racingand even if you do not give two
cents about Formula One racing,like me, I knew nothing about it
.
It is shot so incredibly welland it is like I mean, I don't
know how they did it.
I don't know if they really hadracing cars with like GoPros on
them or what, but it lookedlike you were behind the wheel
of those cars and it's anincredible story.
It's Jerry Bruckheimer.
(45:39):
He always does kind of goodaction-packed North of July
blockbuster movies, yep, andthis one will not disappoint you
, I thought it was so good, andusually I don't pay any
attention to music in a movie.
Speaker 1 (45:50):
The music in this movie is such an excellent
addition to what happens in themovie.
Storyline is good.
Brad Pitt is great.
Speaker 2 (46:00):
The actor Gerard or Javier Bardem, oh.
Speaker 1 (46:03):
Javier Bardem is tremendous.
Speaker 2 (46:04):
He was great in it as well.
He was great.
Speaker 1 (46:06):
The engineer, the girl's the engineer, this woman
who's the engineer on the car.
She was great.
The other driver was great,they were.
All the acting was excellent.
This whole thing was reallyreally good.
Speaker 2 (46:16):
It's funny that you talked about the music, because
the music I said the same likewhen the music was playing.
It's definitely not even likeour style of music at all, but
it fit.
It fit the scenes of the movieso well that I think I was
wondering, like I don't knowenough about movie making, is
the sound guy the same guy asthe music guy?
I don't think it is no.
So the guy who did the musicfor F1 was Hans Zimmer.
Speaker 1 (46:37):
Oh he's a legend, yeah he did the music for.
Speaker 5 (46:39):
Top Gun Maverick.
He did Prince of Egypt, he didInterstellar, he did all these
movies.
Speaker 1 (46:44):
Well, Bruckheimer did Top Gun, Maverick too.
Speaker 5 (46:47):
Yeah, this movie feels like that.
Speaker 2 (46:48):
Hans Zimmer makes incredible music.
Speaker 1 (46:57):
He wins Oscars.
So good the songs that theychose dropping the Hans Zimmer.
I love dropping in some HansZimmer, plus he was in Frozen
too.
Speaker 5 (47:01):
Hans Zimmer, oh, that's a different one.
Speaker 2 (47:01):
Oh, that's Prince Hans it's okay if you are
looking for a show, maybe Frozen, maybe, if you haven't seen
Frozen yet, with the Prince Hans, before you can go see Hans
Zimmer musical.
Speaker 1 (47:16):
That was a joke.
You didn't understand that.
That's called great humor guy.
That's how it works.
Speaker 5 (47:23):
But as soon as you said the music had to be really
good.
I knew it had to be Hans.
I knew it had to be Prince.
Speaker 2 (47:27):
Hans.
I'm sure there are songs onthat movie that people actually
know, by the way, that you and Iare just not culturally up.
Speaker 1 (47:36):
Oh, I thought there was some really good.
I kind of thought at the end Iwould like to go back and listen
to these, because there are acouple.
Speaker 2 (47:42):
You're going to have them on your running list.
I know you're going to be likeI'm downloading these guys.
Speaker 4 (47:46):
It was in the storyline was really good.
Speaker 1 (47:48):
Yeah, I would see it again.
Speaker 2 (47:49):
It was so good Long though it I would rarely say
that there's a movie I'd seetwice in a theater Like a quiet
place was one that I wanted tosee right away again.
I loved that one.
Speaker 1 (48:00):
Good movie.
Speaker 2 (48:00):
And this one.
I would go back tomorrow If you, if you want some action, some
fun.
You know, it was just really agood upbeat movie and it just
it's.
It was awesome, yes.
Speaker 4 (48:11):
Go see, go see F1.
Speaker 2 (48:12):
You, you guys, have a great 4th of July, whatever
you're doing.
Speaker 1 (48:16):
Yeah, enjoy the 4th.
Speaker 2 (48:17):
Enjoy the 4th.
Speaker 1 (48:22):
We will actually not be back on Sunday because we're
going to enjoy the 4th ourselves.
Speaker 2 (48:23):
Right, we'll be back Monday, I think, but we'll come
back on Monday, so you guys havea great rest of your week.
Thank you for joining andspending some time with us.
God bless you and God blessAmerica.
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Speaker 1 (48:58):
There is no doubt about it.
okay, fourth of july edition I wore my sweater you
did.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
You look great I wore the american flag sweater yeah,
good job I am proud to be anamerican yeah, you are.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Yeah, we're going to talk about that.
Yeah, we are one of the onlyones well, it's not true.
There's a lot of proud to beamericans, but there's some very
significant differences in wayscertain Americans look at being
an American.
And are you proud to be anAmerican?
And that's the first story outof the gate that we're going to
talk about.
Okay, okay, we're going to talkabout that.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Well, it's our 4th of July edition.
It is our 4th of.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
July edition, so we're going to go.
Gallup did the study, so we'llget into that.
Then, obviously, everybody istalking about the big, beautiful
bill that's going to make itsway through the House, now that
it's through the Senate you maywell be watching this and it
will be through the House.
They're trying to get thisthing done by July 4th and
there's a very specific reasonfor that, and I want to talk
about why they're in such a rushto get this thing done, and
(00:57):
we'll talk about differentrepresentations and how it plays
a role.
Some interesting stuff comingfrom Alaska on this that we
could learn from in New Mexico,which we'll do.
And we're going to discuss acouple other things as well.
One of them is that when thepresident of the United States
whoever that is comes to you andyou're a member of Congress and
says I've got to have your voteNow, oftentimes presidents have
(01:21):
a lot of sway over some oftheir members of the same party.
Well, this president, presidentTrump, has more than any
president likely in ourlifetimes with this, so that's
why it's likely going to passand we're going to talk about
why he's got so much sway inthat respect.
We're also going to talk aboutthe Leah Thomas situation, which
has been resolved, and Penn hasstood up and made a comment
(01:44):
about that situation, which hasbeen resolved, and Penn has
stood up and made a commentabout that.
And then we're going to have amovie recommendation, which you
and.
I are going to very, very muchrecommend.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Oh yeah, and it's, you know, going into the 4th of
July.
A lot of times people like togo see a movie during a holiday
weekend.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Yeah, it's a good one .
Speaker 2 (01:57):
We've got one for you .
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
It's solid.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
It's very solid.
It's.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
It is a great's probably one of the best movies
I've seen since Boys on the BoatWow, or Boys in the Boat or
whatever that one was Boys inthe Hood.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Yeah, no, no.
Boys in the Boat.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Boys in the Boat, the rowing movie, university of
Washington.
Yes.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Not a big fan of University of Washington, as you
can tell by my head.
Yes, my hat.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Your hat, yes, the.
Washington State University,which you boys, you have a lot
of yeah, I know, I just threwthis on, I just read.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
I just want I just want to go red, I want to be a
little American flag.
I could have used one.
I don't have one.
You've done your cowboy start-shirt.
Uh, it's still.
It's a little snug.
Now I'm going to be honest withyou.
You gotta lose a little bit.
It'll lose a couple.
No, you're, you're.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
I think you need to slow down on the chest press
that to me is what you need todo.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
All right, let's move on to the comments.
Let's move on to the comments.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Mark gets very uncomfortable whenever I talk
about his lifting and what heshould lift or not lift, he's
like would you please stoptalking to me about this, but I
feel like I have a good idea.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Everybody's clicking off.
Let's go.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
All right, it's our comments.
Tommy Guns comes in hot again.
You had a lot again by yourgame camera.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Yeah, they liked that , huh yeah they liked it.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Nice bull elk in game camera was trying to figure out
what he was eating.
Looked like a cow patty.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
Yeah, I don't think it was a cow patty.
I don't know.
There's not a whole lot therewhere he was, so I don't really
always know.
No-transcript, the crowd lovesit Right.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
So I wanted to show you this some video of.
I just wonder, did Ava not get?
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Ava, did you not get my?
You don't see the pictures.
Speaker 5 (03:50):
You can't throw things on me like this.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
No, no, they're in the rundown.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
It's not in the rundown.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
It's not right after the first comment.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Okay, okay, all right , we're good, we're good.
Speaker 6 (03:57):
That's fine.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
No, sorry, kiddo, I didn't.
I didn't really tell you that.
So so we got a couple littlevideo clips here I want to show
you.
This is from early may.
We got three feet of snow atthe top of agrafia creek.
These are three bears a mom andher three.
That's actually four bears.
You can't see them all here,but it's a mom and her three
yearlings.
It looks like she has sincekicked them out.
By the way, yeah, the cams seethem and they're all separated
(04:20):
out now, and so you can see themall playing around in the snow
although they're checking it up,the mom doesn't move very much
in that video no, she just kindof stood there.
Yeah, we've got some better onesof that.
I will show more of those.
And then we have some turkeys.
This is from the same exacttime frame.
We got some turkeys who came inand there were a ton of these
guys playing around and theywere looks like eating something
there on the ground.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
So yeah, you should have waited and held that one
for our Thanksgiving special,not our fourth of July, I'll get
some more Turkey, don't worry,I'll get some more Turkey.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
So there you go.
So more game, camera action.
I'll have more coming up foryou on.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Sunday.
We did that just for you there.
Okay, all right.
Uh, l Davis rocks.
I'd love the show.
The idea about the Sundayanimals so funny.
Well, there you go.
There.
Ava is home safe.
What an amazing experienceShe'll never forget, and proud
of her for doing something outof her comfort zone for five
(05:09):
weeks.
Prayers she'll completely behealed, hopefully sooner than
malaria.
Yes, you know if I may respondto that.
Speaker 5 (05:18):
The really interesting thing about malaria
is it's a parasite, so it's inyour body for the rest of your
life.
Okay, and it can come back atany time.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Okay congratulations.
Speaker 7 (05:28):
Future sick days for me Locked in.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
You're going to college, kid.
Nobody wants to hear it, it'sthe world's smallest violin.
Speaker 5 (05:36):
When I have a real job, I'd be like.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
I can't come in All we heard is we can't unload the
dishwasher because we've gotmalaria.
I did say that because I wasvery weak at the time.
Okay, yeah, okay.
Moving on, john, beverly, greatepisode as usual.
Glad Ava's home, safely Prayingfor her complete recovery from
malaria.
Thank you, john.
Thank you, john.
And then Patrick Potter saysgreat show, ron Keddy's Welcome
Home, ava, I hope you get pastthe malaria.
(05:59):
Introducing Ella, both thegirls getting a shout out.
Ella would appreciate that.
And let's pray that Mamdani isnot the new way of the
Democratic Party.
And another yes for Sunday gameday.
Y'all be safe and we'll see youWednesday.
Patrick put a lot in thatcomment.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
Yeah, I like it, Patrick.
He hit a lot of the points forus.
He does a great job.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
He's getting some points in there.
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Okay, Thanks, you guys.
That's let's uh, dive kind of inbecause, since we it is the 4th
of July right.
We want to talk about.
I mean, I wish we could getsome music, but we probably
would get copyright infringed ifwe start playing something but
a new.
A new polling shows that noteverybody is as proud to be an
(07:00):
American as I am.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
Well, that's very true.
You are very proud to be anAmerican.
You're the walking embodimentof Lee Greenwood, there's no
doubt.
And it's interesting becauseGallup came out with a poll.
So I started seeing thesenumbers and I was fascinated by
them, because there aresignificant differences between
the political parties and howthey view being proud to be an
American.
So let's go to the basicnumbers right now.
Okay, and here they are.
(07:24):
So, right now, 92% ofRepublicans are proud to be
Americans.
Okay, and if you look at wherethe Democrats are, 36% of
Democrats are proud to beAmericans and roughly just over
half of independents are proudto be Americans.
Now, what's interesting is ifyou look at the line especially
let's just start with theRepublican line Okay, that line
(07:45):
is pretty steady, it doesn'tmatter.
Like you can see the years onthe bottom, right.
So we go back to 2001,.
Right, okay, so that's George WBush, 9-11.
You end up with basically ahundred percent of Republicans,
right after 9-11, are proud tobe Americans, and that number
stays right around 90%.
I mean, you know, 90, 92, 94,right in there.
Republicans in general areproud to be Americans and that
number stays right around 90%.
I mean, you know 90, 92, 94,right in there.
(08:07):
Republicans in general areproud to be Americans.
It does not matter who thepresident is.
For the most part Republicansdon't really care.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
I mean honestly, the biggest drop I'm watching on
this came between 21 and 24.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
Put it back up.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Ava, If you look at that that's the biggest drop it
got.
And it was still at about 87%.
That's really the biggest drop.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Right.
So the consistency issignificant.
Now, democrats going back to2001, again coming out of 9-11,
democrats as well, proud to beAmericans.
And then you see somethinginteresting happen 2008, 2009,
2010,.
Democrats are up around 85%proud to be Americans right, and
then they crater in 2016.
(08:48):
What happens the four years ofTrump?
They crater, okay, they're downat 30, you know about 40% proud
to be Americans.
What happens in 2021?
Joe Biden is elected president,goes right back up again.
Now they don't get super high,they're just in general, between
the two parties, republicansdefinitely tend to be more proud
(09:08):
to be American than Democratare right now.
But the Democrats go back upwith with your uh, with Joe
Biden, and then Donald Trumpelected again, and then all the
way down to 36%.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Okay, it really is, and so they really.
It really depends on who's thepresident.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
There's no, there's no question.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Right Like it has nothing to do with our American
history or us as a country.
It has everything to do withwho's in office.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Well, it doesn't right, but, but I would think
the way they look at it it'sit's different like that.
So let's go ahead and show thenext graph here, ava, just the
Democrats on the list here, andthat's where you can tell that
real kind of rock and rollsituation that, for the most
part, has been on the downwardtrend and obviously, with eight
years of President Trump or twodifferent elections where
(09:53):
President Trump won, it deeplyaffected how they look at this
country.
Okay, and what I would argue isit is two different things.
So, republicans, look at thiscountry, our broader mission as
a country and being a force forgood in the world, that I think
God put us in this positionright, and we have a real
responsibility as a country tobe a force for good in the world
(10:16):
.
That's one thing.
That's are you proud to be anAmerican?
To me, right.
Then there's right track, wrongtrack, that's is the country
going in the right direction?
That's two different things.
So let's look at that numberand those numbers right now.
So what you're looking at hereis an echocardiogram.
It's a little bit, but but whatit is is it's right direction,
(10:36):
wrong track.
Ok now, this number used to be70, 30, you know, 80, 20, wrong
track a couple of years ago,when inflation was sky high and
we were struggling in a lot ofdifferent areas.
Now the numbers are a littlecloser.
So, right direction 43%.
Wrong track 53%.
Okay, that Delta actually inrecent history is not that bad.
(10:59):
Actually it's actually a prettygood number.
But this is one thing.
This is our things.
You know, is the leadershipdoing what you want the
leadership to do?
That's what this number isright and I think that's what
Republicans, I think, fit intothat mold a little easier.
Republicans are like righttrack.
You know, excuse me, wrongtrack, right direction, that's
day-to-day.
(11:19):
Do I like what the president'sdoing?
Do I like where the politicalparties are taking us Right?
That's that one.
But then there's that broadersense of my proud to be an
American, and so that's wherethings are different.
Now, if you go by age and areyou proud to be an American?
This is where things are reallyreally scary Interesting.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
I was looking at this , yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
Go ahead.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Well, I mean just the things that stood out to me as
you're looking at.
You know, generational um, areyou proud or not?
You go back to the silent orthe greatest generation.
It's still.
The Republican side is stillreally strong on this, but still
the strongest side of beingproud to be American is that
silent or greatest generation at77% for Democrats, baby boomers
, 67 of Democrats versus 93% ofRepublicans that are boomers are
(12:01):
proud to be American.
Gen X, which is us, 56% ofDemocrats and then a whopping
92%.
So we're pretty high.
We're as high as the babyboomers on the Republican side
as far as Gen X, yes,republicans are consistent
across the board.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
Really, really.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
But I do love look at Gen Z and I look at that
because it's our kids' age,right, right, you only got 24%
of Gen Z Democrats that areproud.
You've got independents abouthalf, and then the Republicans,
those that that considerthemselves Republicans.
Pretty high for Gen Z, which is66 percent.
Well, I would argue that'spretty low and it's really scary
to me, but like they're alsojust starting and, honestly to
(12:38):
me, I think that's high becausehere's why, Honestly to me, I
think that's high because here'swhy I think I know this is the
old world, the theory of youstart out as a Democrat until
you start paying your own taxesand then you slowly turn to be
more conservative because youwant your more money.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Yeah, if you're not a Democrat when you're 20, you
have no heart.
If you're not a Republican whenyou're 50, you have no brain.
Right, that's the old Right,whether it's you know, I mean
obviously Gen Z.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Right now they're all very young, so I just think
it's 60, we got 66 or 65% of theyoung generation that are more
conservative in that.
I think that's kind ofimpressive, Right.
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Okay.
Well, I just think it is ageneral rule.
You can't be a party based onthe fact that you live in a crap
country.
Do you know what I'm saying?
I mean that's so if I'm lookingat this, ava, can you put it
back up please?
If I'm looking at this right,and you see it and you say, okay
, 77% of the silent generationis Democrats, believe that we're
(13:32):
basically, you're proud to bean American, then you go all the
way down.
Really, what this is an exampleof is pounding people with the
message that you live in acountry that is a nightmare and
the structure of your country ispatently unfair and it is
something you should be ashamedof, not proud of, when in fact,
(13:53):
you live in a country that'sgiven more I think for the most
part more opportunity to peoplefrom across the spectrum on
where they come from or whattheir religious beliefs are, if
they have any religious beliefsat all.
This country has provided moreopportunity than other any other
country in the world, and so Ithink Republicans largely
believe that and Democrats don't, and the problem is or at least
(14:16):
the current iteration, asthings go, and I think it's
incumbent upon a Democrat atsome point to walk up and say
you live in a great country.
You can disagree with yourpolitical opponents, but it
doesn't mean your country isterrible, Right, and I think, as
long as your approach is, thisis a terrible country.
That's a tough, that's a toughsell and I think ultimately, at
the end of the day, you shrinkyour party because of it.
(14:36):
And I think, especially whenyou have, when you're an
oppositional party alone to theperson in the White House.
So if your whole thing is Ihate the guy in the White House,
your party shrinks.
We saw it with Republicans andBarack Obama when all
Republicans could say wasObama's awful, that's not a plan
, that's not a political party,that's an oppositional push that
(14:59):
doesn't attract anyone to youunless the conditions deeply
deteriorate and then you getmore people in, whatever.
But if things roll along forTrump and all the opposition, is
Trump's terrible guy, trump'sawful, that's terrible, it
doesn't work.
It does not work and sayinglook, we were part of a terrible
country that has beenincredibly unfair to people on
the way.
Look, we're not a perfectcountry, there's no question,
(15:20):
right.
But at the same time, a lotmore has gone right in this
country and we've been a force,largely for good in this world
versus a force for evil.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
And listen.
We're getting ready tocelebrate our 249th birthday
next year, 250th birthday fornext year, yeah.
For a democracy, that's prettylong it is.
And it's impressive and I thinkthat we've come great strides.
I think, like you said, there'sthings that we obviously can
still improve upon, but at thesame, I mean holy cow, why does
everybody in the world want tocome to America?
Because we're the greatestcountry in the world.
(15:51):
It's not because, I mean, forour Starbucks, I mean it's not
because of the, you know thingslike that, it's because we offer
the most for people here.
And I just think, come on, Likewhen you all you can do is find
problems or have an attitudetowards it.
Either you're not graspingwhere we've come from and what
is going on in the rest of theworld.
(16:12):
As a comparison, your bubblestoo small, or you just think, I
mean, I guess I just I can'talign with that way of thinking.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
Or you're honestly, you don't have a real great
grasp of of hardship in a lot ofcases or what really does
matter.
So and again, some of that'sour age as much as anything else
.
We say that about all sorts ofkids that we're dealing with,
like you guys only understood.
We've said it to our own kids amillion times.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Right, but I think we were.
I mean you and I registered asRepublicans at the age of 18.
We came out of the Reagangeneration.
I don't think I've ever notbeen proud of our country.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
I agree.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Literally not ever, and I will say.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
But we and I do think , though, in what you're seeing
now is with everything that'shappened with Iran and these
other areas, you know, becauseyou have a lot of Republicans
who stand up and say, well, weneed to withdraw from the world,
we don't need to be involved init.
And I understand the foreverwars thing, I get that, but
America does have to be involvedaround the world.
We do need to have a role andwe can be a force for good in so
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many different ways.
So I don't like to hear whenRepublicans are like, let's just
withdraw from like that.
To me, that isolationist right,I think it's damaging, just
like I always believed it wasdamaging when it came from the
left.
And so I do think we have tohave a role Now.
It doesn't mean you get involvedin wars and you got boots on
the ground and all this otherstuff, but when you provide the
moral clarity in the world, Ithink that boosts the feelings
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of your populace, whether theybe young or old.
They say wait a minute, we domake a difference, we do matter,
and I think that's important.
And I think that's reallyimportant for a president to
stand up and not apologize forwho America is, but stand up,
make good decisions and makesure that America continues to
be a force that makes this abetter world and not one that
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makes this either.
You know, we either get into abunch of stuff we shouldn't be
involved in, or we're justdeciding that we're going to
completely withdraw and let theworld just kind of spin out of
control, because that's not howit works.
The world's not just going tospin out of control and leave
America alone.
By the way, Right.
They're coming, so for whateverthat means, Right, exactly, okay
.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
Well, so the big beautiful bill, it is passed out
of the Senate.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Now it returns back to the house.
You seem to think that you're.
You seem to think that thiswill all get taken care of by
Friday.
Yeah, I do not think it will.
I think there's going to beenough back and forth.
It's going to get thrown backto the Senate.
There's going to be changesmade in the house.
Okay, that's my thinking.
I could be wrong, but I justthink.
I think we're still a couple ofweeks out from this thing
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actually getting across thefinish line.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
That's my two cents on it.
Yeah, okay, and no.
So, um, no, no, no, no, no, no,no, you may, you may, be right.
I think that the house is goingto end up adopting what the
senate did and no changes.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
Well, no, they've had changes, so they voted on it
once and then, it's going backfrom the senate but you're
saying that you think that thehouse is going to take it back
and they're not going to makeany more changes to this.
That's roughly.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
Yeah, I think, effectively that's what's going
to happen so now.
But there are two main lines ofcriticism that have come up
along this front, especiallyfrom the left, where they've
said, ok, look, you can't cutMedicaid and you're going to cut
rural hospitals, ok.
And so I want to go through acouple of clips from CNN where
Scott Jennings was on the frontlines of this thing and and
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pushing back against Casey Hunt,and I think he does a good job
here and this is going to befascinating.
A good job here and this isgoing to be fascinating.
So I want to get through acouple of these clips and then
I'll explain why I think thetiming on this thing is critical
and why it is going to end upbeing passed here very quickly
and they're going to have asigning ceremony within the next
few days, because I thinkthey're trying to accomplish one
key thing.
But let's start with some of thecriticism of people like Josh
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Hawley, who said, hey, I do notwant to cut Medicaid, and he
ended up voting for it.
Ok, and we'll explain what theMedicaid cuts are like.
What is it?
He says wait a minute, whywould you ever cut Medicaid?
Scott Jennings explains why youwould cut Medicaid.
It's very important to listento why.
Speaker 7 (20:00):
I have to say Scott him saying I'm not going to vote
for Medicaid cuts, and then hevoted for this bill which, like
very clearly, does cut Medicaid.
Speaker 4 (20:05):
Yeah, but who does't get off grandma's couch despite
being able bodied adults?
But hang on, this is aprotection.
Speaker 7 (20:14):
I actually know too much about this because I used
to be a health care policyreporter on Capitol Hill.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 7 (20:20):
Putting that hat on for a second the people that are
really going to suffer, and thereason this is a problem for
Lisa Murkowski and Josh Hawleyare the rural hospitals with
emergency rooms into whichpeople like that may walk, and
if they don't have Medicaid,they're not getting any.
That hospital is not gettingany money from that person or
from the federal government.
Speaker 4 (20:37):
Well, the Senate included a massive fund for
rural hospitals.
I think it was a $50 billion ordo they wind up, I forget where
they wind up but a massive fundto cover just what you're
talking about.
So some care was put intothinking about how do you
protect rural hospitals fromdownside outcomes.
So I think that's one of thereasons they're ultimately going
to get it over the line isbecause they actually work to
fix little individual piecesthat had people upset about it.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
OK, so we'll get to more of this in a second, but
effectively he says this whenpeople say Medicaid being cut,
what they're really talkingabout here is adding a work
requirement in OK, which we'llexplain here in just a second,
which, by the way, was added byBill Clinton back in the
nineties.
Right.
So that was something that BillClinton backed up and, by the
way, paul Begala, who you'reabout to hear from on CNN, was
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Clinton's main guy on this waswhere they said hey, yeah, if
you're able to work, you shouldwork.
That that's what it says.
And people that are hereillegally do not get to get
Medicaid as they are right now.
They have to get right with thesystem before they could take
advantage of Medicaid.
Ok, so, and then the ruralhospitals.
So I'll get to the ruralhospitals in a second, but Paul
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Begala believes this is theDemocratic strategist.
Speaker 9 (21:44):
He's like this is catastrophe for Republicans if
they pass this for Republicansif they pass this, if you're a
Republican, if you lie awake atnight, unable to sleep, worried
that somewhere, someone who's aworking person is getting health
care, this will be the biggestcut in Medicaid in American
history.
Medicaid is very popular, bythe way.
Republicans carried people onMedicaid.
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They won their votes.
And this is what gets me Smartpoliticians reward people who
vote for them.
Great politicians reach out topeople who didn't vote for them
and bring them in, but stupidpoliticians punish their voters.
This bill is a politicalsuicide note for the Republican
Party.
Last time they tried this, theDemocrats won 41 House seats.
After Trump's first midterm,they'll exceed that this time
(22:26):
489 days.
They'll do better than 41 seats.
This is absolute death knellfor the House Republicans Maybe.
Speaker 4 (22:32):
Senate too.
I should have started myremarks by thanking you, because
it was President Bill Clintonin the 90s that thought of work
requirements for Medicaid.
Speaker 9 (22:39):
But two-thirds of people on Medicaid already work.
Speaker 4 (22:41):
Which is all we're doing here.
Speaker 6 (22:42):
They already do it.
They already do it, we did it.
Speaker 4 (22:45):
As you said, we did it in the 90s If you want to get
your Medicaid and if you're anillegal alien, you're not going
to get your Medicaid.
Everybody else is going to befine 14 generational welfare
reform built on your all's ideas.
So I thank you.
Speaker 9 (22:57):
I sincerely thank you in Kentucky, which I love.
I'm a Kentucky colonel.
You're a Kentucky citizen.
I'm a colonel.
I'm also a colonel.
I love your comment.
Love it.
One third of people in thatCommonwealth are on Medicaid.
Fifty four percent in easternKentucky.
Fifty four percent in easternKentucky.
Fifty four percent.
And they stand in line in therain to vote for Donald Trump
and he's stabbing him in theback.
Speaker 4 (23:13):
I disagree.
It's a fact that people, thepeople, are family family people
who work, the people who aretrying, the people who need it,
the people who are taking careof kids and other family members
.
Those people are protected.
We're protecting the safety netfrom those who are gaming the
system or shouldn't even be inthe country legally at all.
Speaker 7 (23:30):
All right, well, let's turn to-.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
So interesting stuff.
So this is the debate and wealways talk about.
The easiest, cleanest argumentin politics usually wins.
So the Democrats right now aresaying you're cutting Medicaid
because technically it's true,you are going to cut out some
Medicaid spending that'sfraudulent, so and you should do
that as a government, you haveto be able to stop fraudulent
spending.
Okay, so the argument back andforth.
(23:53):
So it's an easier argument ifyou're on the left for this and
so.
But here's what's interestingback when Trump passed in 2017,
the Trump tax cuts, those bigtax cuts which ended up being
very good for the economy, right, okay, they ended up passing
those tax cuts less than a year,only 10 months before the
midterm elections.
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So what happened was theypassed the tax cuts.
There wasn't enough time inthere for the economy to jump up
like it did from those tax cuts, and they were hugely
beneficial.
We've talked about this amillion times on this show.
Those tax cuts were some of thevery best tax cuts at helping
low income and middle incomepeople advance higher along the
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economic scale.
It's undeniable.
When you go back and look atthe numbers, 82% of people in
the United States of America gota significant tax cut and it
helped them.
Okay, so that's why they'regoing to be permanent.
This bill makes them permanent.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
And that's the really I think that's the thing that
we make sure people understandis that's the reason this thing
is being pushed so fast isbecause of those permanent tax
cuts.
That's the whole goaloriginally of this bill.
Right now, a lot of things havebeen added in, but that was the
biggest.
That was the biggest.
Like benchmark or deadline islike hey, let's make those cuts
across the board for everybody,not just for the super rich,
which is what the Democrats wantto believe, but for everybody
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and then make those tax cutspermanent.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
Right, that's what you believe, but for everybody.
And then make those tax cutspermanent, right and so in your
points, well taken, right.
So you want that stuff therepermanently.
But look at the date.
Look at the date.
Right now we're getting it.
We're getting close to July 4th2025.
That is roughly 18 monthsbefore the midterm elections.
The reason they are pushing sohard is because they learned the
(25:31):
lesson in 2017.
They passed the bill too closeto the midterm elections so you
could not see the benefit, butnow they're pushing it out
further.
They know they push those taxcuts permanently.
They do things like no tax ontips, no tax on Social Security,
no tax on overtime.
All of a sudden, you see theeconomy gain more momentum, and
that's why Republicans are goingto do this now.
(25:53):
Okay, they have to, they knowit.
But here's the bet they'remaking, and this is what's going
to be so important.
When you listen to people thatare the opponents of this bill,
they speak in catastrophic terms.
Snap.
Benefits from needy childrenare going to go away.
Medicaid is going to go away.
Rural hospitals are going toclose.
We're going to go away.
Medicaid is going to go away.
Rural hospitals are going toclose.
We're going to find out.
And if all those things startto happen, paul Begala will be
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right the Republicans will getdestroyed in the midterm
elections.
If those things don't happenwhich spoiler alert?
They're not going to, and whenthey don't, all of a sudden, all
the screaming about what'sgoing to happen.
None of it happens will end uphappening and it will look like
they were the boy who cried wolfright.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
Well, and speaking of somebody who's crying wolf,
let's just take a little ganderat one of our own, from the
state of new mexico, theresaledger fernandez, just talking
about how catastrophic thiswhole, this whole bill is, and
she's going to go set itstraight yeah, and by the way,
she did this, I think, on latetuesday yeah, she was going in.
She's going to go in and setall straight, so let's take a
listen to what she's going to do.
Speaker 6 (26:58):
The Republicans over there in the Senate just passed
that big betrayal of a bill andit is ugly.
It got uglier from the Senate,from the House version, if you
can only imagine that.
You know what.
It steals health care coveragefrom everybody you know, unless
you're friends with a bunch ofbillionaires and millionaires
because it cuts Medicare forseniors, it throws people out of
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Medicaid coverage, closes ourrural hospitals If you are a
woman, don't think about gettingreproductive health care from a
Planned Parenthood or even fromyour own private insurance.
And guess what?
For those of you who are on theAffordable Care Act, it is
going to increase your premiumsin some places by 500%.
(27:44):
So nobody is safe under thisbill.
I'm on my way to rules.
We are going to fight it hourafter hour after hour, because
we want to see if anyRepublicans on the House side
have the courage to stand up fortheir constituents.
I want you to stay tunedbecause the fight is on.
We are not giving up and wewill remember where people stand
(28:06):
.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
Okay, thank you so much.
Wow, let's see how much impactshe has on the legislation.
Right, let's just see, like,how impactful she is, because
you brought in this fantasticstory that I think I didn't even
know about.
So I want you to actuallyexplain it a little bit more.
But we have a representativecoming in from Alaska.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
Senator, senator right.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
Who came in from Alaska who was kind of opposed
this bill too, but she wasn'tjust like I'm going to be
opposed to this Right.
She actually started thinkingsmartly about.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
Yeah, and I think this gets back to our point
where we we have a lot of timestalked about our criticism of
the representation in Congressthat we have in New Mexico is
you know where they're voting.
You don't even have to ask.
You know the five votes fromthe state of New Mexico, three
in the House and two in theSenate.
You know where they're votingevery time.
They are absolute, hyper,hyper-partisan politicians, so
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you never have to wonder wheretheir vote's going.
You never have to wonder ifthey're going to say you know
what my state, I can't do thisto the people of my state.
They won't do that.
They'll do whatever they needto do to vote along party lines.
You just never have to wonder.
Now we've had some great NewMexico leaders who you did have
to wonder, and they would crossthe aisle, they would work with
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other people.
They would say no, no, no, I'mnot doing this.
You had the Pete Domenici's ofthe world and the Jeff
Bingaman's of the world and theHeather Wilson's and the Jos Joe
ski.
Like you had some really good.
Even even the bill Richardson'sof the world.
You didn't always know.
Okay, no, it doesn't mean thatthey're not with their party.
You couldn't say that about.
Of course, the minute she was astrong Republican.
Of course Binghamon was astrong Democrat.
You're not saying that that'sfine, but but?
(29:57):
But you had.
People in the Senate areabsolutely banked votes and they
never matter.
They never matter.
There's never a reach out toSenator Heinrich to see if you
can get his support on somethingthat maybe other members of his
party wouldn't support.
It just never happens.
Now, OK, so you bring up LisaLisa Murkowski.
She is the senator from Alaska.
Now.
Lisa Murkowski is not ahardcore Republican.
(30:20):
Ok, she is further left than me, there's no question about that
.
She's further left than you.
Ok, we, you know there aredefinitely a bunch of issues
where we don't agree with LisaMurkowski, but she is a
Republican and her sensibilitiesdo tend to lie with Republicans
.
Many times, Not always, shefrustrates people, Don't get me
wrong.
She frustrates people on herown side.
But I want you to read a littlebit about what she did with this
(30:41):
bill.
So she was the swing vote inthe bill because you had Rand
Paul who said he's not votingfor this.
Ok, you had Tom Tillis who saidhe's not voting for this.
Again, those two said too muchspending, need more cuts.
We're not doing it so fine,they go away.
And then you had Susan Collins.
She also kind of anindependent-minded senator from
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Maine and she said I'm notvoting for it.
Okay, so well, now you're 50-50.
Okay, if you lose Murkowski,you're done you.
It doesn't.
Jd can't come.
Jane, you know, save the world,save the world, right, okay.
So listen to how this shakesout with Lisa Murkowski.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
Okay.
At 3 am, Tuesday, withPresident Trump's sprawling
domestic policy bill in troubleon the Senate floor, no one had
more leverage than Senator LisaMurkowski, With two GOP senators
firmly opposed and SenatorSusan Collins, a Republican from
Maine, likely to vote no.
The senior senator from Alaskawas the pivotal vote for Trump's
legislative agenda.
Murkowski, a patient and ofteninscrutable moderate Republican,
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was dead set on amending thebill to benefit her constituents
and softening the blow fromspending cuts in the package.
So let's look what she actuallyasked for.
By 5 am, so two hours later,Medicaid officials were on the
phone with staffers representingAlaska's other and more
conservative Republican senator,Dan Sullivan, to iron out rural
hospital provisions that wouldhelp Murkowski get to a yes.
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Senate Majority Leader JohnThune could have chosen to
shrink the bill's debt ceilingincrease to sway Rand Paul, the
Republican from Kentucky, oradjust the Medicaid provisions
to woo Senator Tom Tillis, theRepublican from North Carolina,
and Collins, but instead he gavemore to Alaska and it worked.
And what does that mean?
It means that they ended upadding $25 billion more for
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rural hospitals, which willactually end up benefiting New
Mexico.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
Right, it's a $50 billion fund now.
So what that says is if ruralhospitals serve people that
aren't able to pay themeffectively, you're going to
have more funds available fromthe federal government to
backstop those hospitals.
So when you hear TeresaFernandez they're closing all
the hospitals.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
Teresa Fernandez-Ledger.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
Ledger Fernandez, ledger Fernandez, yep.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
Saying, oh well, they're going to cut all of our
rural hospital funding.
No, they're not.
They actually just added thebill in.
So again, that was addedyesterday.
She made that video on Tuesday,Right?
Speaker 1 (32:58):
Yeah, it's not it's not the most honest criticism in
the world, but at the same time, that's in a political world.
That's what they do, right,they do those things.
But the reason I bring upMurkowski in this particular
case is what does she do?
She looks at the people of herstate and says, okay, I know
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what need to pass these tax cuts.
I know that if I don't passthem, taxes are going up on
every Alaskan.
I cannot have that Like.
That's a bigger deal than anyof this.
She knows that, so she knowsshe's got to get to.
Yes, she knows she does, and soshe's like.
But I got to make sure thatMedicaid is in a position.
And those small rural hospitalsbecause Alaska is like New
Mexico.
They have a million littlerural hospitals not a million,
but a lot right that are reallyisolated.
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You have to care for people inthose hospitals.
So she knows it.
So she uses her position tohelp the people of her state.
I think that's a huge deal.
And she isn't saying I'm aRepublican so I'm going to vote
Republican.
She ended up doing that, butnot before she got something for
the people of her state.
We don't ever see that from thepeople in this state.
We don't ever see them say hell, no, I'm not going to sell out
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the people of my state tosupport my party.
I don't care about my party, Icare about the people of my
state.
Where is that?
Speaker 2 (34:08):
Yeah, why were they not creative, even as a as a
five sum, to get together andsay, okay, listen, this thing's
going to pass.
We know what's going to pass.
What is it in this that wewould that we really need to
make sure we're protecting forthe people?
Speaker 1 (34:21):
of New Mexico.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
They didn't do that, they're just going to vote no,
and then their vote, as you said, isn't even going to matter,
Like that's what.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
So it's just it never does, it never makes, never
does.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
Okay, but all of this to say, Trump has never been
more more popular than he isright now, which I think is
interesting with Republicans,with Republicans, yeah.
Right with his own party.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
So let's just take a look at this.
This is the latest pollingbasically talking about his
first five months in office, andhow does he compare to previous
presidents at about the sametime in their presidency?
Speaker 9 (34:54):
I mean every politician would like this
number here, especially to seeit go up.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
How about compared to other presidents who were
Republicans?
Speaker 3 (35:02):
Yeah, it's history making.
It's history making.
What are we talking about here?
So why don't we look back?
We have all the president.
Oh sorry, One quick thing, justa quick pause on this.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
What these numbers are.
Just so you know, we probablyshould have that strongly
support.
So so this is these are thehardcore like he's doing.
Great, yeah, ok that.
But that's that, it is anapproval.
It's it's hey, look, this isstrongly approved.
So that that's a hardcorenumber.
So you would look at that andbe like, oh, only 63 percent of
Republicans approve of Trump.
(35:31):
No, no, no, no.
These are 63 percent.
Say I really approve of whathe's doing.
That's a huge number.
Ok, keep going.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
So I asked 35, 36, 37 years?
What are we talking about?
Gop, who strongly approved fivemonths?
And look at this George HW Bush, bush 41, 46 percent.
Bush 43, 59.
You see Trump, the first term,53.
But look at this Sixty threepercent.
He beats all the otherRepublicans on the board here
and I was looking even backsince Reagan and get this Donald
Trump beats Ronald Reagan whenit comes to the strongly
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approved five months and ofcourse, reagan was coming off
that high after thatassassination attempt.
So the bottom line is DonaldTrump is making history with the
Republican base.
He is more beloved by thisRepublican base than any
Republican base loved any GOPpresident.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
Okay.
So why does this matter?
This matters because when yougo to the United States Senate
and you start twisting arms,when you were in the kind of
position that Trump is with hisown party, and he says everybody
loves me, do what I'm askingyou.
I know it's going to be toughand I know you're getting a lot
of blowback, because anypolitical fight like this
(36:40):
there's a ton of blowback.
You're not going to get aperfect bill, but you're going
to get a bill that's going toimprove the lives of Americans.
Do what I need you to do.
This is why they fall in line.
This is why he got just enoughvotes to get it done and,
believe me, if he didn't getMurkowski, he'd have gotten
Collins, and if he didn't getCollins, he'd have gotten Tillis
.
Whatever it was, he got who heneeded.
(37:01):
And the same thing's going tohappen in the House and it's
going to happen over the nextcouple of days.
And they're going to get thisthrough, because when you have a
president who's got a 63%strong approval in his own party
, he has tremendous power he hastremendous power.
Speaker 2 (37:15):
Interesting enough, okay, well, and then obviously
this also kind of molds into theprimary and like when Trump
backs you in a Republicanprimary, is there a shot for the
other guys, right?
Like, if you have a Trumpendorsed candidate in the
(37:39):
Republican primary, should youjust bow out at that point if
you don't have his, his stamp ofapproval on you?
According to this recent poll,probably so, apparently.
So take a look at this.
Speaker 3 (37:46):
Donald Trump.
The Times Trump endorsed andendorsed these won the GOP
primary for governor andcongressional races.
Look at this Twenty twenty four, Ninety six percent, twenty
twenty two, ninety five percent,twenty percent, 2020, 98
percent.
The bottom line is this 95percent plus of the time the
Trump endorsed candidate wins inGOP primaries.
And even in the cases whereDonald Trump endorses a
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challenger to an incumbent, themajority of time that challenger
wins.
So Donald Trump is a winner.
In Republican primaries, you goagainst Donald Trump.
To quote the movie Good Burger,you go in the grinder.
Donald Trump is the key nugget.
His endorsement is the keynugget in a GOP primary because
he's historically stronglypopular with the GOP.
Speaker 2 (38:25):
OK, ok, but we should add I mean, I think it's
important for a state like NewMexico that, yes, his
endorsement in a GOP primary isimportant, but it can also be a
ding for that same person in thegeneral yeah, maybe, yeah, yeah
.
Speaker 1 (38:40):
It depends on the state, of course.
But yeah, but this is about armtwisting on a bill that's in
front of them right now, knowingthat Trump comes out and says
I'm going to get you primariedIf he's going to do that.
That's a real threat and itmeans something is what Harriet
is basically saying, so youshould be scared of that.
Now we will tell you a littlebackground story, and we've
talked about this before on thisshow.
We, when we were running forgovernor in 2022, Rebecca Dow
(39:03):
was pushing super hard to getTrump's endorsement.
Now I will say this about Trumpand some of those numbers when
Trump doesn't think you're goingto win, or it doesn't look like
you will win, he doesn'tendorse you, so that's why those
numbers look really good tooright so it's both it's the
Trump and usually it comes inpretty late, usually, well, not
always there are plenty ofpeople he'll endorse nice and
early, but it just depends onthe situation and if you want
(39:25):
his endorsement and how it allworks.
But Dow was pushing super hardfor him and we started to think,
oh my gosh.
And we knew we were up, we knewwe were winning significantly.
And so when we heard Dow waspushing hard for this, we
reached out to the Trump peopleand said, okay, if you're going
to do this, just realize.
We sent them our pollingnumbers and we said, if you're
going to do this, you're goingto have an uphill fight and
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there's a good chance you'regoing to lose, so don't do this.
And so we pushed a lot ofinformation their way.
And now, were we right?
Would Dow have made up all theground on us and made up 40
points and beat us?
Probably not, but I don't know.
It would have been a whole heckof a lot closer.
The second she got thatendorsement, our lead goes from
(40:07):
40 points down to at most 15.
Right, so that's close.
So we treated that veryseriously and so that just gives
you an insight into candidates.
Know that you do not want tostep on that Trump rake right
and you don't want it hittingyou right in the forehead and so
that that stuff is importantand so you got to be careful.
(40:27):
So we ended up talking toTrump's people enough that they
said, okay, we'll stay out.
Speaker 2 (40:31):
Yeah, they just did out of it, completely Right, and
that gets back to Trump'ssuccess level of 96, 97, 98%.
Speaker 1 (40:37):
Some of it is that his his help matters.
It absolutely matters, it doeshelp.
But at the same time, too, he'ssmart enough to know okay, I'm
not going to go, I'm not goingto go fight a battle that I may
lose.
When it's really close, likethat, sometimes, he'll stay,
stay out of the race, like youdid with us in the primary in
the governor's race in 2022.
Speaker 2 (40:55):
Right, okay, interesting enough, all right.
So let's talk a little bitabout this.
Speaker 1 (40:59):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (40:59):
CNN.
Speaker 1 (41:00):
I don't know what this is Okay, I added it in at
the last second.
You added it in like 20 secondsago.
Speaker 2 (41:03):
No, no no.
Speaker 1 (41:04):
So I just wanted to say finally putting a bow on
some of the over-the-topcriticisms right and
over-the-top criticisms,especially from media or from
other politicians.
People just roll their eyes,and I just want to give you a
little example.
We've talked about USAID andthe fact that they're taking the
(41:24):
funding from USAID and pullingsome of it back.
That was inappropriate.
And then the stuff that wasneeded is being reapportioned in
different ways through theState Department.
Ok, that's what's happeningwith it.
And so now CNN got a hold of anew study that's out, and they
want everyone to know that thereis death on the horizon.
Speaker 8 (41:42):
Secretary of State Marco Rubio is hailing the end
of USAID, the nation's largestforeign aid agency, even as a
new analysis finds that itsclosure could contribute to some
14 million deaths in the nextfive years.
14 million deaths, wow.
Speaker 2 (41:56):
next five years, oh, my God.
Speaker 4 (41:57):
Shut up 14 million deaths.
Speaker 2 (42:00):
Wow, who knew?
Who knew that NGOs were savingthat many lives?
Speaker 1 (42:06):
You know, and so look , and again, there's plenty of
aid that we give out to othercountries that we're going to
continue to give out to othercountries that desperately need
it.
Speaker 2 (42:12):
The actual NGOs that are making a difference is who
continues to get the money Right.
Speaker 1 (42:16):
So anyway, it just cracked me up.
Speaker 2 (42:18):
So anyway, I just had to stick it in there I'm going
to start throwing things in herethat you don't have a chance to
read it.
Speaker 1 (42:21):
Yeah, no, no, no problem, I appreciate it.
And then I'm just going tostart throwing things and then
I'm going to have you read it.
You looked at me and you.
Speaker 2 (42:32):
So basically just real recently, upenn now
apologizing and basically saying, hey, we're going to pull away
all of Leah Thomas's winsbasically or rankings.
Speaker 1 (42:44):
Yep, it's women and women's sports again from Penn.
And basically this comes downto the Trump administration
pressuring the University ofPennsylvania and saying you
can't do this, you can't do this.
And so what they agreed to do,what Pennsylvania agreed to do,
was contact the athletes thatwere affected at the time and
apologize to them for what theydid.
And remember, there areswimmers at the University of
(43:05):
Pennsylvania who were on theteam at the time who said
administration came in andthreatened them and said if you
don't keep your mouth shut,things are not going to go well
for you.
I mean, they were strong-armed.
And there have been women whohave come out and said this was
awful, what happened to us.
And these are people on thePenn team and said this was not
(43:26):
right.
And so when you look at therecords from that particular
time that Thomas said those arebeing wiped away.
When you look at the titles,those are being wiped away.
And so Penn has definitelypivoted on this whole thing, and
I think you've got people likeRiley Gaines who are saying amen
, people that were on theUniversity of Pennsylvania team
at the time saying thankgoodness we get our sport back.
(43:50):
And it's amazing because thishas changed quite a bit,
obviously, you know, since wewere talking about it a few
years ago and leadership in thiscase mattered.
Speaker 2 (43:57):
I know, and I mean honestly, riley Gaines was one
of our very first guests on theshow.
So I mean, this has been a longway, a long haul, to try to get
this back to some sort of senseof normalcy.
So it'll be interesting to seewhat shakes out from this.
Speaker 1 (44:09):
But taking away certain metals from certain
swimmers that now they're saying, listen, we're going to correct
this, correct this, wrong, yeah, and one of the swimmers from
the university of Pennsylvaniasaid you know, the thing nobody
talks about is there were girlson our team who had to sit out,
that were that just couldn'tcompete Right Because Thomas
competed Right.
So this is something that Ithink, obviously.
(44:31):
I think more and more peopleare and, again, this has always
been an 80, 20 issue, you know.
So I think more and more peopleare waking up to the 80.
Speaker 2 (44:38):
I think it's a 90-10 issue now.
Speaker 1 (44:40):
I really do.
I think it's shifting.
Speaker 2 (44:45):
I think it's less and less people are saying that
this is a normal way of living.
But okay, well, let's end theshow with something kind of fun
to talk about, because it's the4th of July.
A lot of people like to go tothe movies with their families,
the movies with their families,and it's exciting, and you know.
And so Mark and I Mark veryrarely, by the way, just for
those very rarely we'll go withme to the actual movie theater
to see a movie, and this is onethat you wanted to see, yeah,
(45:05):
and I was like oh, brad Pitt'sin it.
Oh, I guess, pull my arm, I'llgo Right.
Speaker 1 (45:10):
Drag me kicking, I'd have a.
Yeah, I'd have BP in there.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (45:18):
So it is called F1.
It is about Formula One racingand even if you do not give two
cents about Formula One racing,like me, I knew nothing about it
.
It is shot so incredibly welland it is like I mean, I don't
know how they did it.
I don't know if they really hadracing cars with like GoPros on
them or what, but it lookedlike you were behind the wheel
of those cars and it's anincredible story.
It's Jerry Bruckheimer.
(45:39):
He always does kind of goodaction-packed North of July
blockbuster movies, yep, andthis one will not disappoint you
, I thought it was so good, andusually I don't pay any
attention to music in a movie.
Speaker 1 (45:50):
The music in this movie is such an excellent
addition to what happens in themovie.
Storyline is good.
Brad Pitt is great.
Speaker 2 (46:00):
The actor Gerard or Javier Bardem, oh.
Speaker 1 (46:03):
Javier Bardem is tremendous.
Speaker 2 (46:04):
He was great in it as well.
He was great.
Speaker 1 (46:06):
The engineer, the girl's the engineer, this woman
who's the engineer on the car.
She was great.
The other driver was great,they were.
All the acting was excellent.
This whole thing was reallyreally good.
Speaker 2 (46:16):
It's funny that you talked about the music, because
the music I said the same likewhen the music was playing.
It's definitely not even likeour style of music at all, but
it fit.
It fit the scenes of the movieso well that I think I was
wondering, like I don't knowenough about movie making, is
the sound guy the same guy asthe music guy?
I don't think it is no.
So the guy who did the musicfor F1 was Hans Zimmer.
Speaker 1 (46:37):
Oh he's a legend, yeah he did the music for.
Speaker 5 (46:39):
Top Gun Maverick.
He did Prince of Egypt, he didInterstellar, he did all these
movies.
Speaker 1 (46:44):
Well, Bruckheimer did Top Gun, Maverick too.
Speaker 5 (46:47):
Yeah, this movie feels like that.
Speaker 2 (46:48):
Hans Zimmer makes incredible music.
Speaker 1 (46:57):
He wins Oscars.
So good the songs that theychose dropping the Hans Zimmer.
I love dropping in some HansZimmer, plus he was in Frozen
too.
Speaker 5 (47:01):
Hans Zimmer, oh, that's a different one.
Speaker 2 (47:01):
Oh, that's Prince Hans it's okay if you are
looking for a show, maybe Frozen, maybe, if you haven't seen
Frozen yet, with the Prince Hans, before you can go see Hans
Zimmer musical.
Speaker 1 (47:16):
That was a joke.
You didn't understand that.
That's called great humor guy.
That's how it works.
Speaker 5 (47:23):
But as soon as you said the music had to be really
good.
I knew it had to be Hans.
I knew it had to be Prince.
Speaker 2 (47:27):
Hans.
I'm sure there are songs onthat movie that people actually
know, by the way, that you and Iare just not culturally up.
Speaker 1 (47:36):
Oh, I thought there was some really good.
I kind of thought at the end Iwould like to go back and listen
to these, because there are acouple.
Speaker 2 (47:42):
You're going to have them on your running list.
I know you're going to be likeI'm downloading these guys.
Speaker 4 (47:46):
It was in the storyline was really good.
Speaker 1 (47:48):
Yeah, I would see it again.
Speaker 2 (47:49):
It was so good Long though it I would rarely say
that there's a movie I'd seetwice in a theater Like a quiet
place was one that I wanted tosee right away again.
I loved that one.
Speaker 1 (48:00):
Good movie.
Speaker 2 (48:00):
And this one.
I would go back tomorrow If you, if you want some action, some
fun.
You know, it was just really agood upbeat movie and it just
it's.
It was awesome, yes.
Speaker 4 (48:11):
Go see, go see F1.
Speaker 2 (48:12):
You, you guys, have a great 4th of July, whatever
you're doing.
Speaker 1 (48:16):
Yeah, enjoy the 4th.
Speaker 2 (48:17):
Enjoy the 4th.
Speaker 1 (48:22):
We will actually not be back on Sunday because we're
going to enjoy the 4th ourselves.
Speaker 2 (48:23):
Right, we'll be back Monday, I think, but we'll come
back on Monday, so you guys havea great rest of your week.
Thank you for joining andspending some time with us.
God bless you and God blessAmerica.
Speaker 5 (48:30):
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podcast.
We hope you've enjoyed the show.
We know we had a blast.
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