Episode 214: Young Americans are struggling with the promise of a better future, and their politics are shifting dramatically

Young Voters Are Waking Up

They were promised the American Dream — but now, it’s out of reach.
And young men? They’ve had enough.

The numbers show a massive political shift as Gen Z and Millennial men move toward the Republican Party. Mark breaks it down — and explains how some voters are now supporting politicians as different as Donald Trump and Zohran Mamdani.

You read that right. There’s a political realignment happening, and we dive into it.

📰 Media Trust is Collapsing

As more young people leave traditional news behind, we look at why the media's one-sided coverage is backfiring — and how it’s damaging both journalism and the nation.

🙏 Gen Z Men Are Turning Toward Faith

Krysty goes deep into why more young men are seeking faith, meaning, and fatherhood — and how this surprising trend could reshape American families and culture.

Plus, hear powerful words from NFL legend Jared Allen on what really matters in life: faith and family.

📸 Sunday Game Day: A Predator on Camera

It finally happened. Mark captured video of the big predator he’s been hunting with his trail cams in the northern mountains.

We show you the must-see footage and talk about what it means for wildlife in high-altitude country. You won’t believe your eyes.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 2 (00:08):
okay, it's sunday afternoon yes and we have plenty
to talk about.
We'll go hauling through thisstuff.
Uh, give you a quick rundownbefore we yeah, go for it get
going here.
Uh, we're going to start offwith some numbers how the
electorate is shifting acrossthe country and how I think

(00:29):
we've seen a lot of people,including young people, get
ready to go to college.
Because we're kind of in themiddle of that with Avis she's
getting ready to leave next weekor this next week to go to
college, and so some stuffstarted to pop into my orbit
here and I pulled some of it foryou guys to demonstrate how the
promise of America for a lot ofyoung people is not

(00:51):
materializing.
And so when that doesn't happen,people start to move right.
Their political allegiancesshift in all sorts of different
ways, and sometimes they shiftin what would appear to be two
completely opposite directions.
Why?
Because they want somethingdifferent and they know where
they are doesn't work.
So we're going to talk aboutthat it's kind of an interesting

(01:16):
thing and we're going to talkabout Trump as a
transformational figure.
Harry Enten has stepped in onthat, and we have some new
information on spending forhealth care in the state of New
Mexico.
One of the things that's beentalked about is that, with the
big beautiful bill, all thisfunding is gonna be cut from New
Mexico and people are gonna getthrown off of Medicaid and
rural hospitals are all gonnaclose, turns out.
We're starting to see abacktrack on that.

(01:36):
We'll get into details on thatas well.
Somebody in our legislatureaccidentally was honest.
We're gonna talk about that aswell.
And some faith content here,talking about how the Catholic
church is stepping into thedigital age and trying to engage
in that respect, how men andwomen view faith.
We're going to talk a littlebit about that, which is pretty

(01:58):
interesting stuff A great speechfrom an NFL Hall of Famer who,
when he got the chance on thebiggest stage you know the Hall
of Fame speech he turned to Godand then he turned to his family
, so it was a really cool speech.
And then we're going to getinto a little bit of what's
going on with our populationboom or bust.
And finally, sunday game dayI've got the coup de grace.

(02:20):
I've got the animal I waslooking for.
I have not Bigfoot everybody,it's, bigfoot Let me tell you,
it just about was when I saw itcome through, so I will show you
one of these animals that Ihave been dying to catch.
We finally have it.

Speaker 4 (02:35):
Okay, all right, so let's start a little bit with
some viewer mail, though.
We got a lot of comments againthis week.
We appreciate those.
I just picked a couple of themto hit on and see if this this
one.
I wanted you to have anopportunity to discuss a little
bit or come up with whatever youwanted to say.
This is in regards to ourgerrymandering episodes.
The last two episodes that havecome in through pretty popular

(02:56):
episodes, by the way.
They've really taken offbecause gerrymandering in
general nationally has beenquite a trend story over the
last couple of weeks.
But this person wrote in um Kcanny canny something it's only
a defense against the shamelessgerrymandering by the
Republicans all over thiscountry.
If you've actually, if you'reactually honest, you know that's

(03:18):
true.

Speaker 2 (03:19):
Okay, well, what we said?
This is what happens whenpeople watch a clip and they
don't watch the show, and sothey just don't know what we
said.
And so I said, yeah, there'sgerrymandering in Texas, it
happens all the timeGerrymandering in Florida,
there's gerrymandering inCalifornia and there's
gerrymandering in New Mexico ina huge way here, okay, my point
was, and our point on the showwas if you're going to be the

(03:39):
beneficiary of gerrymandering,don't get up on camera and talk
about the perils ofgerrymandering.
And that's what ourrepresentatives have done.
They've stood up and been likeI can't believe there's
gerrymandering in other States,when they themselves have done
it here.
That's all I mean.
That's it and so.
So it's very, very simple.
Everybody knows there isgerrymandering in other States,
and Republicans do it too.
So if you're going to do that,just have the self-awareness to

(04:03):
say, yeah, we pretty much did ithere.
So I'm going to go ahead andjust sit this one out, because
I'm not a total hypocrite, andso that's what we were talking
about, right?

Speaker 4 (04:11):
We also had shared, too, the polling that shows like
, or the surveys that show whatstates are doing most of the
gerrymandering.
And we shared that too, theworst of it.
So I do think that this person,this individual, didn't watch
the whole show.

Speaker 2 (04:27):
No, that too the worst of it.
So I I do think that thisperson, this individual, didn't
watch the whole show.
No, I didn't watch any of theshow, just watched a clip.
And then we had another, Ithink, comment we're going to
put in the comment about thegovernor, somebody said I was, I
was, uh, I was angry at thegovernor, or you're just some
other term.

Speaker 4 (04:34):
Yeah, you're just hurt because you lost to the
governor and that you shouldback off, because republicans
have been the ones that havebeen cheating everywhere yeah,
again ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (04:41):
Okay, give me a break .
And so, by the way, didn't ripinto the governor at all.
Actually, over this I said Icalled her, I complimented her,
I called her the Michael Jordanof gerrymandering.
That is a compliment, okay,first of all, and I and we did
compliment her by saying shedidn't go sit at a press
conference and say, hey, youshouldn't gerrymander.
We said she has enoughself-awareness and is crafty

(05:01):
enough to realize that's just adumb thing to go do.
And she didn't do it.
So you know again, a lot ofthis stuff when people don't
listen, I can't do much aboutthat.

Speaker 4 (05:09):
Right.
Okay, we got a lot of commentsfor you, ava.
This show just on you speakingup against the Sweeney ad and
the sexualization of her.
But I just pulled one.
This one's from John Beverly.
It said those ads are athrowback to the brook shields
ads years ago.
Ava is absolutely right.
You go, girl.
Instead of trying to make thead about white supremacy issue,

(05:30):
people should be more concernedabout the constant
over-sexualization of youngwomen with this type of
advertising.
I didn't put them all in, ava,but you got quite a few.
Just go, ava.
Um, thanks for speaking yourmind, ava.
Those kind of things Iappreciate all the comments,
yeah.

Speaker 3 (05:44):
And one guy want to know if, if, if, ava is our
daughter.

Speaker 4 (05:48):
And yes, she is our daughter.
She is the one that's like isyour producer your daughter?
I was like yes, she is.

Speaker 2 (05:54):
It's the only person we could force into the job.

Speaker 4 (05:56):
We have leverage over Ava, so therefore, she is our
producer, or Ella or otherdaughters.
Ella, our other daughter.

Speaker 2 (06:01):
So yes, those are the two people in the world we have
leverage over.

Speaker 4 (06:07):
Those are true and, by the way, if I was going to
pull we won't talk about itright now, but I should have
pulled the the Cindy Crawford adof Pepsi I guess that was like
the number one ad at the time.
It came out during a Superbowlof her drinking a Pepsi and cut
off jean shorts and white tanktop and it's like young boys
just drilling all over her orwhatever.
But they were comparing thosetwo ads and how.
These ads are nothing new underthe sun, right, they're just
they were talking about kind oflike they're there to sell

(06:28):
product.
So, anyway, okay, all right.
And then somebody, Hal see,we're just.
He just jumped in because wetalked a little bit about the
economy, trump tariffs, thatkind of thing he said.
Don't miss that Trump is usingthe tariffs to motivate nations
to come to the table to reshapeour economy.
At this time, few of the bigtariff threats have taken place
because nations have come to thetable to negotiate reasonable

(06:49):
tariffs.
And we're going to actuallytalk a little bit more about
those tariffs on today's show.

Speaker 2 (06:53):
Yeah, but their tariffs today, and which you'll
see when we talk about it, areas high as they've been in
decades.
So there's no question, trumphas made a promise about tariffs
and is delivering on thatpromise, and we'll get into
details on that as well.
Ok, so I want to talk about themovement.
This is sort of a deep diveright off the top, talking about
the movement of people,especially in the electorate.

(07:14):
So take a look at some numbershere and the reason I want to
show you these and let's go in alittle bit here.
These are numbers as of 2023.
Ok, so before the big 2024election and everything else,
you could see young people,especially young men, fell into

(07:34):
the democratic category.
62% of young men were Democrats, 36% were Republicans.
Women 65 to 30.
Okay, then what you notice isas you go down the list here,
men kind of get pretty evenlysplit as they get into their 40s
, and then men 50s and abovetend to definitely skew more
conservative and women sort ofbreak evenly right, as you can
see there.
So there's no doubt the partiesare becoming more and more

(07:55):
split.
Men tend to be republican andwomen tend to be democrat, but
in a way that has become very,very stark.
So take a look here now.
These are the new numbers outnow.
Look at these numbers.
These are staggering to look at.
Men ages 18 to 29, 52% are nowRepublicans, 34% are Democrats.

(08:17):
That is a flashing red lightfor the Democratic Party that
they have hemorrhaged that manymen, especially young men, and
then you just keep on going.
Men 30 to 49.
That's a 10 point advantage forRepublicans, and women continue
to be Democrats for the mostpart 30 to 49.
There's about a 15 point, 14point advantage or so.
You get into men that are 50 to64.

(08:40):
They have stayed Republican andare still there.
Women are evenly split and thenmen 65 plus, significantly
Republican as well.
But this sort of hemorrhagingof men to the Republican party
happened during the 2024 raceand continues.

Speaker 4 (08:55):
And we're going to talk.
We'll talk a little bit moreabout some of the reason maybe
behind that in our faith drivenstory, because it ties into what
you're talking about.

Speaker 2 (09:02):
That's great, and so so that in a little bit, that's
great, and so the question iswhat's going on here?
And I want to take this alittle bit bigger.
We all know about the fact thatI think men have been pushed
out of the Democratic Party tosome degree, and that needs to
change if they're going to becompetitive again.
You can't eliminate men fromyour party.
It's roughly just under halfthe electorate.

(09:27):
You can't do it right, and sothat stuff has to change.
I don't necessarily want to getinto that.
What I think is more happeninghere and what I want to touch on
here is especially given whereAva's going to college.
So we're starting to wonderhere what is the promise of
America and what are youngpeople looking at and going?
This isn't working right, thisisn't working for us, and you're
seeing big swings of peoplegoing in different directions,

(09:48):
and the point I'm going to maketo you is the move to Trump okay
could easily become the move toanother political figure on the
left who brings young peoplesomething to be able to say this
isn't working.
So everybody looks at Mamdani,right, and you say how could
anyone support the fact thathe's for abolishing the police?

(10:08):
And again, he's going tomoderate on some of these issues
because he can't win on them.
But grocery stores owned by thegovernment?
That's craziness.
Rent control saying to propertyowners you can't charge any
more than X amount I mean, it'snever worked anywhere, Okay.
So we're not arguing that it'sgoing to work.
Mamd it's never worked anywhere, OK, so we're not arguing that
it's going to work.
Mandani's pathway is not goingto work.
Just like many people said,Trump can't possibly win, Right.

(10:29):
There was this thought in 2016,.
Trump can't possibly work,Right, it won't work.
And all of a sudden, Trump winsand a lot of what he advocates
for does work.
So I'm not making the equalcomparison of the two, but I am
saying people are going back andforth because they are truly
struggling, Okay.

Speaker 4 (10:47):
Well, and to kind of similar to that is when Biden
said, hey, free college, we'regoing to wipe out student loan
debt If you um, you know,basically that's my promise If
you vote for me.
I do think a lot of youngpeople or people that had that
debt were somewhat shifted topotentially vote for the guy
because they thought, hey, I do,I have you know a hundred

(11:08):
thousand dollars in student loandebt.
This guy's going to wipe it out,so I'm going to vote for this
guy, and again he couldn't do it, but it was a promise that
people wanted to hear.

Speaker 2 (11:14):
Right, yeah, yeah, because you get desperate right.
So you get to that point.
So I want to show you two clips.
The first one is just fromHannah Miryama.
So she advises people basicallyon how to integrate into the
workforce after college and totry to get themselves in a
advantageous position goingforward in their career, and she
brings up some prettyinteresting numbers on what kind

(11:35):
of uphill battle young peopleare facing coming out of college
.

Speaker 1 (11:40):
So do you remember?
A while back there was theWashington University I believe
it was a 2019 study where theysurveyed that 53% of recent
college graduates were under orunemployed.
As defined by the US government, that means making 28k or less,
so that was the state ofcollege in 2019.
That was five years ago now, sothe numbers are not better.

(12:03):
Half of graduates end upunemployed a year after
graduation.
The interesting part is collegegraduates 10 years after
graduation.
Do you want to take a wildguess what the underemployment
and slash unemployment rate isfor college graduates after a
decade?
45% 45% of college graduates 10years 10, an entire decade
after they graduate are stillunder or unemployed.

(12:25):
That is abysmal.
That is abysmal especiallyconsidering the average cost of
a bachelor's degree.
Per the National Center forEducation Statistics and the
Bureau of Labor Statistics, datais $104,000.
And 10 years after, making an$104,000 on average purchase,

(12:46):
with tuition, opportunity costsand lost wages, will cost you
over half a million dollars inyour lifetime.

Speaker 2 (12:51):
Unreal, yeah, unreal.
So you look at those numbersand you say half of people are
underemployed, $30,000 a year.
I mean that's, that's crazynumbers.

Speaker 4 (13:03):
Especially for 10 years after me, cause, honestly,
you know, our first year out ofcollege I made 12.
I don't know about you, but myfirst few years.
I was making $12,000 a year forseveral years actually, but so I
think it's okay.
Not okay, but I think it's morereasonable.
If you're taking a lower payingjob initially as you graduate
in a field that you want to bein and then you gradually work

(13:26):
your way up, Right.
So.
But if, if it's been 10 yearsand you still have 45% of those
graduates making less thanemployable wages, that's pretty
frightening.
It's yeah.
Does she give us any solutionsor is she just down there to
scare us?

Speaker 2 (13:40):
Yeah, I mean, I think there are a few solutions.
First of all and we're going tohave a follow-up soundbite from
a girl who I think was justfascinating here but so this
lays the initial groundwork tobe able to say, okay, we require
so much of these studentsfinancially to go to these
schools.
And then the reality of thesituation is it seems ludicrous
to even ask the question is itworth it?
Of course it's not worth it.

Speaker 4 (14:01):
It's not worth it.

Speaker 2 (14:02):
Those numbers, right, it's not worth it.
Now, a lot of this gets intoother things, right, this gets
into if you're involved in thestem fields, there's no question
, it can be beneficial.
And everything else, and and ifthere are certain things you
get in the middle of it breaksdown by by gender as well, and
in all different sorts of things.

Speaker 4 (14:18):
Medical, I think, medical all sorts, yeah, no
question, and I also think Imean and I know you're going to
show this clip really fast butsomething I've told both our
girls and I really do believethis is I think there are
certain schools out there thatare better equipped at helping
students network post-graduation.
And to me, as we went to golook at colleges, that is.
One thing that was really topof mind for me is job placement.

(14:40):
There are percentages of jobplacement for graduates.
I think that that's actuallymore important sometimes than
almost anything else now,because it is it's about you
create networks when you go tothese schools.
And if you are one of 60,000students, for instance, at a
college, how do you stand out ina college like that?
So my advice, like if I waslooking back now, I, if I was
going to a different school, Iwould probably pick a much
smaller university that had goodnetworking opportunities that I

(15:03):
could go and do grant work for.

Speaker 2 (15:05):
Yeah but those tend to be the most expensive
universities.
Well, I understand that they doI get that?

Speaker 4 (15:10):
I understand that.
But I'm saying if you're goingto spend the money to go to
college, you at least have tolook and say what is the job
acceptance rate percentage whenyou graduate.
What are their percentages likefor job placement afterwards?
I think it's vitally important.
I think it's underlooked by bya lot of folks.
Like I've asked people like, oh, what's their job placement
stats?
And people kind of look at melike I have three heads.

(15:31):
I think that's almost moreimportant than well, yeah, I
mean.
I've never been of the mindsetthat you should go drop two, 50
for college, $250,000 and get indebt to go to college.
I've never been of that mindset.
I don't understand it.
I'm like, have you gotscholarships or you got all the
money in the world and you cando that, knock your socks off.

(15:52):
But I, you know, I think, justthe average bear, the average
Joe out there who has a smallamount of money set aside for
college or will work towardsthat small amount or can take a
small student loan.
It's very important to seewhere's the placement for that
person when they graduate.

Speaker 2 (16:02):
Yeah, Okay, yeah, all right, no, no, no, no.
I see what you're saying.
It just I think a lot of thoseschools you're talking about are
legacy operations that cost alot of money.
I mean, you don't have.
You know that situation whereyou have these greats, you know
alumni networks.
It's your average school.
A lot of times that comes witha massive price tag, which is
fine.
But but my, my point in this.

Speaker 4 (16:23):
I don't know if I agree with you on that.
I think there's plenty ofschools that are still
affordable, that are smaller.
Okay, that's fine.

Speaker 2 (16:29):
That's fine.
I just this is not the point ofthis.
So I'm really it's my point.

Speaker 4 (16:33):
No, you did, you went no, but you're.

Speaker 2 (16:35):
You make a very fair point.
I just, it's absolutely true.
But but I do wonder though toobecause there's so many other
factors in this right Like itdepends if you're, if you're a
certain major let's say you'remajoring in, you know modern art
, and you're like I need theseconnections.
You're right, you do Right,especially you do, but if you're
majoring in engineering, youprobably don't.

Speaker 4 (16:54):
Right, I understand that.
Yeah, I think that there's thedemand jobs that are out there
but still then you're up against200 applicants, so how do you
stand out among those?
You've got somebody thatactually you can have a
connection with and you cannetwork with over the course of
your time at that college.
I do think it helps you.
Okay, get the job.

Speaker 2 (17:09):
Okay, let's move on.
It's not an unfair point at all, but it's an interesting
discussion if we're headed inthat direction, which we're not,
All right.
So let me do this.

Speaker 4 (17:21):
Heaven forbid I take us off the rails.
No, no, no.

Speaker 2 (17:23):
I believe me, I totally get it, but I'm a
regular rail taker offer, so Iunderstand.
Um, so I want to just listen tothis girl.
I don't even know who she is,okay, but I saw her come across.
Uh, a couple of stories I waslooking at and I thought it was.

Speaker 4 (17:41):
It was interesting.

Speaker 2 (17:42):
She's not trying to.
I don't I mean.

Speaker 4 (17:43):
I don't really know.
Have her just put the bageldown for a second, so we can
hear what she says.

Speaker 2 (17:46):
The one thing too, like on the bagel, we are going
to lose a little bit of peanutbutter.
Early on I thought it was honey, I wasn't sure.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (17:59):
It's very try not to look at the bagel down.
So we actually pay attention towhat she's saying.

Speaker 2 (18:02):
But let's just listen to what she says.
She just lays out her costs and, believe me, the cost that's
going to shock you is not rent,it's not cell phone.
Just wait and see what she sayson cost, and this is the sort
of thing again, the overallpoint here being you've got so
many young people, all right,that look at things and go.
I need someone with answers andI may go in a different

(18:23):
direction than many people thinkI would, so just listen to this
.

Speaker 3 (18:27):
I am $205,000 and dead at the age of 24, and this
is what I pay in a monthly bill.
So we're going to start outwith my portion of rent.

Speaker 4 (18:35):
There it is.

Speaker 3 (18:35):
That's going to be $550.
My phone is a prepaid phone, sothat's only $50 a month.
My car payment is $378.95.

Speaker 2 (18:47):
So far pretty reasonable actually.

Speaker 3 (18:50):
My private student loan payment is $2,373.35.
My car insurance payment is$379.95.
And my federal student loanpayment is $283.36.
And I will total all that up injust a second Okay, so I

(19:10):
totaled it up and I am paying$4,015.25 in bills every month.

Speaker 4 (19:19):
Okay, and that's not even her utilities her food, her
gas for her car.

Speaker 2 (19:23):
No, it's not any.

Speaker 4 (19:23):
her health insurance, her gas?
If for her car no, it's not herhealth insurance.
None of that's in there.

Speaker 2 (19:26):
So that's roughly just in basic bills, 50k a year,
right, okay, so that's just.
You see that.

Speaker 4 (19:34):
I feel that girl's pain.
I felt like I was very similarto her when we graduated.
I mean, I had college studentloan debt, I had to pay for my
own rent, I had all those sameexpenses and we were not making
very much money in televisionback in the day that I had to
defer my loans for.
I mean it took me a while topay them off.
I got there, but it does take along time with that stuff.
It is like a monkey on yourback and you have to ask

(19:54):
yourself is the ROI there forthe schooling or the degree that
you're getting?

Speaker 2 (19:57):
Well, very true, there is that portion of it, but
I'm talking the broader sensethen If you're that person and
again she ran up the debt andshe should be responsible for it
, there's no question, that'sher deal, you're going to make
those choices, you're going tomake those choices.
So when we were talking to Avaabout school choices, that's the
sort of thing that Ava wassmart enough to be like okay,
yes, I could go to school X andeven with your help, our help,

(20:21):
it still could run upsignificant amounts of debt.
Even if you didn't go to 200,even if you went to 75,000,
that's a tremendous amount ofmoney.

Speaker 4 (20:28):
You sat down.
I thought it was brilliant.
You sat down and you had herget out her phone, you got her
her calculator and you guystalked about it.
You're like okay, so let's justlook up, If you had $75,000 in
student loans when you're doneat four years, let Just a
payment.
And you weren't even talkingabout anything else, you were
just talking about that paymentper month and for how many years
$1,500 a year or a month.
I think it's really hard whenyou're a student and you haven't

(20:50):
had a lot of like.
I didn't really understand.
I didn't break that down when Iwent to school.
I knew that if I wanted to goto college I wasn't going and

(21:12):
get these degrees, and then yeah, and in the school we were
looking at and we were talkingabout $80,000 a year.

Speaker 2 (21:17):
So just give you an idea.
So so, so what my point is onthis.
So just one little example iswhen you have the situation
where you have these youngpeople looking at things, and
they look at it and they go,things are not working.
And I think a lot, of, a lot ofmen, by the numbers we showed,
turned and said, yeah, we don'tlike where things are going.
You know, for a variety ofreasons there's, there's more

(21:38):
than one reason for this.
But men said, ok, we're going,we're going with Trump, that's
what they did.
I mean, that's what they did.
And people think, well, trumpand Mandani couldn't be more
different.
That's very true.
They don't have the similarpolicies, but they both tap into
something, a frustration ofpeople, and I think what you're
seeing now is the possibility,and I don't know how Mandani is

(21:59):
going to do and everything else,I don't know.
But people who say there's noway this guy can get elected do
that at their own peril, becauseif you're someone like that
girl we just watched, orsomebody living in somewhere
else that says I can't get ahead, the hill just keeps getting
higher and steeper and I can'tget ahead, and so when someone
like Zoran Mamdani comes out andsays something like this, it

(22:21):
can be appealing can beappealing when what we need is a
mayor who understands theaffordability crisis is
impacting those tenants, thosehomeowners, everyone across the
city, and will actually deliveron affordability for them.

Speaker 6 (22:34):
And when he was asked in an interview after he
relaunched his campaign as tohow he would deliver that
affordability, he said he didn'tknow.
And we know exactly how we'regoing to do it.
We're going to do it byfreezing the rent, by making
buses fast and free, deliveringuniversal childcare and putting
working people first in thenation's most expensive Okay,
again, this is just.

Speaker 4 (22:50):
What kind of bothers me about something like this,
though, is this is like we'regoing to free pizza on Fridays
and you can wear jeans to class.
I mean, it is the studentcouncil run.
And when you make promises thatyou can't really actually back
up and you win and then youcan't deliver.
I mean the guy right before him, eric Adams, said I'm going to

(23:10):
make it more affordable to livehere and he's had a really hard
time getting any of that acrossthe finish line and he didn't
even come up with.
He wasn't pitching governmentrun grocery stores.
He was talking about trying toget rent controlled in effect.

Speaker 2 (23:19):
Well, yeah, you can't do that.
I mean that's the point, right?
Is that some of this stuff?
I agree, I mean that's thepoint, right?
Is that some of this stuff?
I agree, I totally.
I agree with your pointcompletely.
But the problem is, as you lookat things and you say, why did
Trump destroy what would havebeen Biden or what was Kamala
Harris?
Because Trump talked aboutaffordability.

(23:40):
Trump said we can't afford whatthis guy has done.
You look at what happened andyou looked at prices skyrocket.
Trump says you can't do that.
The response was yeah, you knowDemocrats didn't have a
response, they still don't rightnow, but this is a response,
right, yeah?

Speaker 4 (23:53):
it's a student council one, but yeah, it's a
response and if people fall forit Okay, but I'm just telling
you you do this at your ownperil.

Speaker 2 (24:01):
So, finally, at least he's talking about the
affordability crisis.
Now he's doing it in New YorkCity, and he's doing it in a way
that will be a miserablefailure and will bring much more
pain than it will any sort ofprosperity.

Speaker 4 (24:13):
Right.
So if he wins, it's neverworked in the world ever what
he's trying to do, so whatyou're saying.
If he wins, though, then we'relooking at a solid decade of New
York City trying to figurethemselves out, because this is
not going to work.

Speaker 2 (24:24):
Yeah, I think it'll probably get four years and then
he'll be out, but it will.
The pain will go longer thanthat, yes.

Speaker 4 (24:29):
Yeah, it'll be.
And will he be the face of the?

Speaker 2 (24:33):
Democratic Party too.
I mean that's also aninteresting yeah, no, very true
Right.
So Republicans want him to bethe face, there's no question
Right.
And because Republicans sayhere's our solution, right,
lower taxes, you know more of anopportunity for small
businesses to grow, flourishingthrough a system that has proven
to be the envy of the world.
People who believe and you saidplenty of Democrats who believe
in this too, and we'll see ifsome of them will step up again

(24:54):
and say we very much believestill in capitalism.
We just don't want to do itlike the Republicans.
There is a lane there, but thequestion is, where is that lane?
But I'm just telling you thatthe overall feeling here and you
see it in the movement of theelectorate in a variety of
different ways when theelectorate gets fluid because
people are unhappy, you can getpeople elected that you never

(25:14):
imagined would be elected.
So I'm just saying watch out.

Speaker 4 (25:17):
Okay, can I just add this one little thought.
Yes, okay Now it's going to beanother rabbit hole for you.
You're not going to be happywith me, but when you choose to
live in a place like New YorkCity or Los Angeles which I
lived in LA for almost a decadeit's expensive.
It's more expensive than almostany other place in the country
to live.
So to go to New York City as,say, a 20 year old, you know in
your twenties, and think thatyou're going to be able to
afford these apartments and thiscost of living there, and else

(25:41):
you have, like I don't know, alot of money put away or you've
got a really high paying job insome banking operation or
something.
I don't know who could do thatin their 20s.
So I just think that that'skind of.
An important fact too is thathe's making these.
He's talking to people thatwill be voting there but
necessarily probably couldn'tafford New York City and a good
under good circumstances.

Speaker 2 (26:00):
Right, but my point is there's an affordability
crisis everywhere, like.
I understand that we're talkingabout New York city and the
affordability crisis is higherthere, but it's everywhere.
Young people can't afford ahome.
I mean, you got you got kidsthat are, are kids, I say.
But young adults that are 25,26, 27 can't even dream of
buying their own condo, but muchless a home, and so in the cost

(26:21):
of everything is so expensive.
And so that's my point on allthis.
It's not just New York City,new York City is a microcosm.
That's worse, no question.

Speaker 4 (26:28):
It is worse.

Speaker 2 (26:29):
But so I'm just saying just watch out for those
sorts of things.
It's just an interesting thing.
I don't know that I did a goodjob of really laying it out, but
um, and, and you just, and youjust, rabbit, trailed the heck
out of that thing, but I butit's just, it brings up multiple
conversation points.

Speaker 4 (26:44):
No, I totally agree, we're just covering the gamut.
No, no, no, I agree, I agreeTotally.

Speaker 2 (26:48):
You're the greatest.
All right, so let's now turn,then Pivot Until you take us on
another rabbit trail.
You're welcome, we'll pivot toHarry Enten talking about Trump
as a transformational figure.
Two things that Trump said hewanted to do when he became
president again.
When he became president again.
One was tariffs.
Everybody talked about tariffsand was Trump going to do this?

(27:09):
And the Democrats hit him forthe whole taco charge.
You know the whole thing that,whatever you know, trump never
follows through, basically onthings.
And then also the issue of theborder.
Well, harry Enten makes thepoint that there is no doubt
Trump has staked out hisreputation on these two issues
and has delivered as atransformational figure has
staked out his reputation onthese two issues and has
delivered as a transformationalfigure.

Speaker 5 (27:32):
Administration is arguably the most influential
this century and probably aswell dating back a good portion
of the last century as well.
Love it like it, lump it Trumpis remaking in the United States
of America.
Let's talk about tariffs first.
Right, there's all this talkthat Donald Trump always
chickens out when it comes totariffs.
Uh-uh, no tacos for Trump.
The effective tariff rate getthis.
It's 18%, the highest, thehighest since the FDR

(27:54):
administration in the 1930s, upfrom get this just 2% last year,
From just 2% last year.
We're talking about a level, aneffective tariff rate level get
this nine times as high thisyear than last year.
But it's not just on tariffs,which of course, Donald Trump
ran on, in which you're seeing atremendously influential

(28:14):
presidency.
What about immigration?
Of course Trump ran and hasalways run on a very hawkish
immigration platform.
Get this 2025 net migration inthe United States down at least
60 percent from last year, 60percent from last year.
In fact, we may be heading forthe first time in at least 50
years in which we have netnegative, net negative migration
into the United States.
And last year, of course, in2024, the net migration in the

(28:36):
US was two point eight million.
This year, we might be talkingabout negative net migration, my
goodness gracious.
Now, of course, this is part ofthe larger story, as I was
mentioning, we're talking aboutimmigration, net migration,
we're talking about theeffective tariff rate.
But get this, how is DonaldTrump doing it?
Well, he is signing a ton ofexecutive orders.

(28:56):
Get this One hundred and eightythe most in a year since
Franklin Delano Roosevelt.
Oh, my goodness, you have to goback to the first half of the
20th century, the last century,and to make a comparison, Joe
Biden signed get this just 77during his entire first year,
and we're only a little bit inAugust so far, and Donald Trump

(29:16):
making history with 180, 180executive orders signed so far
this year.

Speaker 4 (29:21):
So that's why I said that in my mind it's interesting
the executive order thing,because it's always like the
conversation is, you know, willthese get reversed when Trump's
out of office, you know, and howmany of these executive orders
will actually be made into law?

Speaker 2 (29:33):
Well, and the bigger point on that, too, is that when
you have all these executiveorders, this basically removes
Congress from the mix.
Congress used to have the jobof legislating who knew Right,
and now it is more like thepresident comes in, signs,
executive orders Some of themare challenged in court, some of
them are not and it becomes theconcentration of power in the

(29:54):
executive branch is too high.
It just is, and I don't carewho's president.
You need to have Congressinvolved more, because Congress
is more directly connected tothe people that they represent,
even more so than the presidentis.
So to me, that is that is anissue.
But at the same time, if you'renot getting anything done in
Congress and you're Trump,you're like well, what am I
going to do?

Speaker 4 (30:13):
Sit here and watch these guys do nothing, heck no,
well, that is the frustratingpart is it seems to take
Congress regardless of who's inoffice.
It takes Congress forever.

Speaker 2 (30:21):
It's deliberate to be .
That's deliberate, though.
That's the founding fathersdeliberately saying wait a
minute.
We're going to set up a systemto ensnare people into a process
that takes a while, and that'sby design, and that's actually a
positive, not necessarilyalways a negative where we have
people just running an overflowinto the country because of an
executive order made by Biden.

Speaker 4 (30:48):
I just think at that point you did need another
executive order to get us backto where we were supposed to be.
So I just think I don't know.
I see what your point is, but Ijust think it is frustrating to
watch legislature, congress,move so slowly.
And I can understand that youdon't want a bunch of laws
passed all the time and you haveto go do your due diligence.

(31:08):
Four years, eight years, topass something that seems crazy
to me.
That seems like it takes toolong.

Speaker 2 (31:16):
Well, yeah, I mean, and it does.
And it takes cooperation, whichyou get less and less of.
But as the cooperation hasbroken down in Congress, the
power of the presidency hasgrown.
Why?
Because you're not going toreach a deal in Congress.
So what are you going to do?

Speaker 4 (31:29):
So you think that's just the way it's going to be,
or what do you?
I mean, how do you think thingschange there?

Speaker 2 (31:34):
Well, that's a good question.
I'm not sure it's going tochange anytime soon.
So that means presidentialelections will continue to
become more and more high stakes, because the person who gets
that job has the power of thepen and the ability to be able
to sit down and say I am goingto do what I need to do because
I know I can't go to Congressand all Congress does now is
they pass these omnibus billsthat have massive amounts of

(31:54):
spending, that have all thesedifferent components to them, so
that nobody gets really held toaccount, Because the vote, you
know the vote.
If you voted against something,you know, like some of these
guys do all the time, the ThomasMassys of the world they'll
vote against everything.
But most people, especiallywhen your party is in power and
you get a budget bill that showsup or an omnibus bill that
shows up, it has everything init.

(32:15):
So you vote for everything andyou're not really held to
account for individual voteswhere you have to stand.
And so I think, for the mostpart, you're seeing more and
more people stay in Congress,especially the ones that are
really competent, stay inCongress for a shorter period of
time because they realizethere's not much to be done here
.
There really is not much to bedone, and that part's a bummer.
And then the executive branchtakes over and they just fill

(32:39):
the void.
Wow, so, and that's where thatbut Trump is.
Trump is doing that in aneffective way.
And you know, look, we like thepolicies, right, but, but, but
on the other, in the otherdirection.
When someone from another partycomes in or somebody who may
not share your values, thatbecomes an issue.
That's why I think Congress hasgiven up so much of their power
and they continue to do it andthey only have themselves to

(32:59):
blame.

Speaker 4 (33:00):
Okay, so we're we talk a lot about on this show
our faith in media, mainstreammedia, legacy media.
Where's the?
Do we have faith in themanymore?
What's happening to them?
And again, this recent pollfrom Gallup is kind of showing
that cratering of the faith inmedia.
Just take a look at this andexplain this.

Speaker 2 (33:19):
So the latest numbers are you know out recently from
Gallup are are unbelievably low.
So you're at.
Basically, faith in televisionnews is below 10% now.

Speaker 4 (33:32):
I mean it's crazy.
Think about the Walter Cronkitedays.
Oh, it's unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (33:35):
They would say so, and then newspapers as well are
up around 18%.
Okay, but you know, part of theproblem here is when you don't
have an adversarial media, right, we don't have an adversarial
media anymore.
You have a conservative mediaand then you have a mainstream
media and and both are backingdifferent sides.
Really, that's what that's whatthis has become.
And so I grabbed a story on thefront page of the journal from

(33:59):
the other day from Dan Boyd, andthis is this is interesting
because we've talked about thebig beautiful bill and other you
know, and our state leadershave all come out and said
people are getting thrown off ofMedicaid, rural hospitals are
going to close, the catastrophiclanguage right, and all of a
sudden, and then again there'sno pushback on this, there's no
wait a minute.
Here, here's the real deal, andmedia lays it out to be able to

(34:21):
educate people and create thatnecessity for people to turn to
you and say I need to know thetruth.
They've given that up.
They've given that up inexchange for advocacy journalism
.
They just advocate for a side,and some advocate for
conservatives and some advocatefor, you know, the mainstream
media and the left.
It just is what it is.
Well, the journal is a goodexample on this story.

(34:42):
I'd say state officials sayrural health fund could provide
175 million annually for NewMexico.
Well, wait a minute.
I heard not very long ago these, these hospitals are shutting
down.
This is not good.

Speaker 4 (34:55):
Stansberry's making videos about it.
We got I mean we got all kindsof our state reps just crying
wolf telling us we're all goingto lose all the funding for the
rural hospitals and bigbeautiful bill passes.

Speaker 2 (35:04):
Right.
So let's take a quote from thisstate health care authority
Preliminary estimates project.
New Mexico could receive onehundred and seventy five million
or more annually under the plan, which could at least partially
offset the reduction in fundingin other areas.
A top legislative staffer saidlast week for the rural health
care fund could be a windfall.
Ok, could be a windfall for NewMexico, which has long

(35:26):
struggled with recruiting andretraining healthcare providers
and rural parts of the state.
Okay, we've gone fromeverything shutting down to an
actual quote that says windfall.
Okay, you start looking at this.
What do I?
What are we believing here?
And the problem is when youhave people who are just trying
to be politicians and in justpushing political rhetoric with

(35:48):
no accountability, they don'tever get held to account on it.
They're never called out by themedia and said why did you do
this to people, why did you saythese things?
Never, right?
So then just other storiesstart to trickle out that say,
yeah, you know how we said thatstuff.
Yeah, it turns out it probablyisn't going to be the case,
right.
And so another quote, given thebackdrop of the health care
authority spokesman said thisweek the state agency could

(36:12):
receive that hundred seventyfive million annually over the
five year period.
That's again annually over afive year period.
The deadline for applicationshas not yet been set, yet
they're still working on that,it says.
State health officials alsopredicted nearly 90,000
residents could lose healthcarecoverage, while more than
250,000 residents could face newco-pays.

(36:32):
But that may not happen either.
So you know.
So you start to look at allthis stuff and you say what is
going on?
You know, and this is what wemean by faith in media, where
it's like there is no, there isno pushback, there is no genuine
, seemingly understanding fromthe mainstream media to say
we're not going to letpoliticians tell us and set the

(36:56):
set, the mood for whatever thisissue is, you're used to be
pushed back on it.
Now there's not nearly enough,and because of it, you see the
sky is falling.
Every time sky's falling,people are dying, yep.
And then all of a sudden, itnever, it doesn't happen.
Or or maybe you know, they sayit's not going to happen and it
does happen, right, they justnever think to question, never,
especially not the side thatthey they land on, and because

(37:19):
of that, they always end upbeing wrong one way or another
and that ends up just taking thetrust in media and deteriorate
Right.

Speaker 4 (37:26):
It causes confusion, I think, for the everyday person
who's not spending hoursresearching this stuff.
So they're just like well,what's the deal?
Are we going to lose ourhospitals or are we not going to
lose our hospitals?
Could somebody just tell me thetruth on that?
And I think when you go to do X, for instance, or you look at
your state leadership, you'rekind of hoping they're the ones
that are going to tell you thetruth and they're going to be
the guiding light for all this.
But it just drives up fear whenthere's been no actual facts

(37:50):
supported by that fear.
Driving, messaging and goingaround on state town hall tours
to scare voters about losingtheir Social Security or losing
their Medicaid or whatever isirresponsible, and that's where
I feel like media should be,like calling those state reps
and saying why did you go outand do these?
I'm at your town hall right now.
You're saying this, this andthis.

(38:11):
What do you have to back upthis claim?
Like, where's the proof of this?
Because we're hearing somethingdifferent.
you know that's a good that's agood reporter and I feel, like
our reporters, that the five wehave left in this town need to
start following these town hallsor going and finding these
people that are making theseviral videos and saying why are
you saying this?

(38:31):
And if not, if you can't evenget them to respond to you, then
you talk about that in yourcolumn or your story.
You say this is what thisperson is saying.
They're a state rep.
I assume they're in the know onthis.
But guess what?
I went and did some research.
It turns out we're actuallygoing to get a surplus of
funding.
We're not going to lose funding, so tell people what they need
to know, or not even necessarilythat that's weighing in.

Speaker 2 (38:53):
Just, at least give both sides of this to lay out
exactly where we're going,because they don't know, you
don't really know, you don'tknow how the bill's going to
play out, but you do know thatyour average New Mexican is not
getting kicked off of Medicaid.
It's just not happening.
And so in your average hospital, there are systems in place to
make sure they are still viable,right?
All those things happen, sowe'll see, we'll see how it

(39:15):
shakes out.
Now I did find this this is kindof a one-off clip that I
thought was hilarious.
So it came through X and thestate legislators these are
again state legislators are thepeople that are based out of New
Mexico.
They go to Santa Fe everyJanuary, right, your state
legislators.
We've got the House and theSenate.
They go and do hearings allover the state, right, and they

(39:37):
do various different issuesalong the way, and so I thought
that it was pretty funny.
This is the Courts, correctionsand Justice Committee, okay,
and Senator Cedillo Lopez, whois a Democrat, stood up, and she
just had a moment of clarity,which I thought was amusing.
When I listen to her, she'stalking about some of the gun

(39:57):
bills that end up beingintroduced in New Mexico, and
she was refreshingly honestabout it.

Speaker 9 (40:04):
I really appreciate the gun law update.
Honest about it, I reallyappreciate the gun law update
and I don't know how to say thisexactly, but we always
introduce these unconstitutionalbills.

Speaker 2 (40:16):
Actually I don't agree with that.

Speaker 9 (40:21):
So I'm sorry.
Well, I the reason.
I again.
We have different experiencesin the Senate and the House, but
at least that comes beforecommittees that I'm on.
We get these bills and it'slike they're so obviously
unconstitutional.
Of course I'm not on judiciary,so anyway I'm like, oh my God,

(40:44):
I love it.

Speaker 2 (40:44):
It's true, it is true , it's just right.
And see that.
You see, I don't know whojumped in on the house side?

Speaker 4 (40:50):
no, no, no, we don't do that.
What are you talking about?
Everything's constitutional,that we put everything is cause
you should see.

Speaker 2 (40:57):
But the reason and the reason, the reason that
senator cedillo lopez says thatis because if you actually watch
what happens, judiciary is agood example.
Uh, some of the financecommittees, you see some of it
too, the incompetence in whichthey present these bills, with
which she's right, they're just,they're just completely and
totally off the rails and theydon't, they're not even close to

(41:18):
being constitutional.
And I think the point she'skind of making on this I don't
know because that was the onlyclip we saw but the overall
point is like you can't just gointroduce bills that are just
like you can't do that.
No, you're like well, okay, and, by the way, the right to bear
arms in the state of New Mexicoenshrined in our state
constitution is actuallystronger than what's in the Fed

(41:40):
constitution.

Speaker 4 (41:41):
So, overall, I don't think our governor actually knew
that, though, when she proposedsome of the things that she was
proposing under a publicemergency.

Speaker 2 (41:47):
Right, right, right.
And again, that's a differentdeal, right, sometimes you go in
there and you're just doingstuff for PR reasons and things
like that.
But the point being in all thisis just that when you see some
of these bills introduced andthen you watch them in committee
, people in the committee, hereads some of this stuff and you
can tell he's like, oh my gosh,like he knows, yeah, and he's

(42:09):
not one of these guys that'sgoing to go pass through a bill
or let a bill go through.
That's completely just rankunconstitutional Right, like he
cares about it.
He's a Democrat, but he doesn't.
He realizes, you know, likethis is craziness, right.
And so he does these sorts ofthings and looks at him and is
like, okay, yeah, well, we got aproblem.

Speaker 4 (42:24):
It just was funny to me.
I mean, I know that we all talkabout how bad AI could be, but
just if those state legislatorswho don't, who are not familiar
and don't want to take the timeto actually get to know our
state constitution before theycome up with these?
ridiculous bills they couldactually just run their stupid
bills or, sorry, their draftbills, I guess I should call
they're draft bills through anAI check and just say is this

(42:46):
constitutional with the state ofNew Mexico laws or federal laws
?
And I guarantee you AI willtell you this goes against this,
this, this and this.
And so maybe I don't know,maybe, oh, I bet it will.

Speaker 2 (42:56):
But a lot of what happens with these laws is they
get them from another state, ohgood, and then they submit them
in New Mexico.
Well, the problem is, you'llhave them do this in a committee
and then we have laws in thestate of New Mexico that
prohibit a lot of these thingsRight, various things.
And you'll see guys likeCervantes be like yeah, this is
completely and totally you know,in opposition to you know

(43:19):
whatever the law is in theparticular case, but they know
it right away.
And so if you don't do yourhomework and you're just one of
these people, that one of theselegislators who goes and talks
to an activist, just oh nopresent this bill, they just go
present it and you'd be shockedhow often Bills that are
presented in the legislature arecompletely and totally a remake
from another bill from anotherstate that an activist handed a

(43:40):
legislator who's too lazy toread it and do the research.

Speaker 4 (43:43):
That's what I'm saying.
If you're lazy and can't do theresearch, run it through AI at
the very least.
At the very least run itthrough AI and say compare this
to the state of the New Mexicostate.
Constitution Right, is thisconstitutional in our state of
New Mexico?
Ai will tell you oh, I watchconstitution right is this?

Speaker 2 (43:57):
constitutional in our state of new mexico.
Ai will tell you, oh, I watch,I yeah, and I watched cervantes
do it to a couple people on hiscommittee this past legislative
session.
Just be like, yeah, guess what,this is absolutely in
opposition to the new mexicocivil rights act.
And all of a sudden like, uh,so it just is, like it's
craziness, but anyway, so you'regonna do your thing and then,
by the way, as soon as you done,we'll do Jared Allen, then

(44:18):
we'll do some game cam.
But this is interesting stuff.
Yeah, I just thought this waskind of interesting.

Speaker 4 (44:21):
So, basically, the new pope that's in office, they
invited over 1,000 newinfluencers, catholic
influencers.
So they're really trying to goafter the digital platform.
So they basically invited 1,000influencers across the world to
show up at the Vatican for someevents with the Pope, and then
those folks went out and kind ofshared their stories.

(44:42):
Well, the New York Timesactually kind of did a
furthering story of this andjust talked a little bit about
how they're really trying toobviously tap into this younger
space.
They're trying to really reacha younger demographic with this.
They're not the only ones.
Catholics are not the only ones.
Mormons are doing this now too,obviously, I would say,

(45:03):
protestant faiths are puttingout their sermons out there or
their worship songs out there,really trying to make the
digital platform to be moreengaging and get the younger
generation, who are maybe notactually going to inside of a
church building, to still behearing the word of God, and I
kind of thought it was justinteresting to talk about and
just the fact that what's alsocome out of this is that more

(45:26):
men are turning to the faiththan young ladies, and this is
Gen Z, right, so we're talkingGen Z More males, which this is
a shift more males are divingmore into going back to church
or being part of the faith thanfemales, and I think that that
was just kind of interesting tome because, obviously,

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generation Z we pay attention tobecause of our kids.

Speaker 2 (45:51):
Right.

Speaker 4 (45:51):
And looking at why this could be.

Speaker 2 (45:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (45:54):
A lot of these young men say a lot of this polling
showed really big differences ineverything from career goals to
how much money you make, tosexuality choices, to all of
these and to spiritual choicesbetween the genders, between men
and women in the same agebracket.

Speaker 2 (46:11):
So men are okay.
Do you think this then ties into what we were talking about?
Just, men are becoming moreconservative, right?

Speaker 4 (46:18):
now, yeah, I do, because, ironically, 12% of more
young men in Gen Z want to befathers and want to have
families than their femalecounterparts.
Right, so that could make.

Speaker 2 (46:31):
That could be a tough deal.

Speaker 4 (46:32):
So it's kind of different because usually you
came from these generationsbefore that were were more girls
were like, or more females weremore driving the you know the
family wagon, yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 2 (46:42):
The faith wagon and let's have kids, wagon
Absolutely.

Speaker 4 (46:45):
And now that is a shift and so they think
according.
This is New York Times,obviously, so let's keep this in
all perspective on this.
The Me Too movement reallyopened up women's eyes.
That Roe v Wade overturningmade women be more consciously
aware of the birthing rights, Iguess, or whatever.

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And so who are they going toalign with politically on that
front?
You see more younger Gen Z menvoting in favor of Trump or more
geared towards a conservativeaudience, basically where the
females are going in a differentdirection.
It's just kind of interestingjust to see not only this young
influencer stuff.

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I thought it was kind of funny.
I don't even know if you putany of these in here.
You did it.
We did not get permission so Ididn't want to put it in there.
But there are some like ofthese Catholic influencers which
they go out, and Ava and Ellawould probably appreciate this,
but they're interviewing likenuns and monks about their fit
which is their outfit, if youdon't know what that means, if
you don't have a teenager livingunderneath your roof, the habit
, the habit she's identified.

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She's like talking about it.
She's like so this is the fit,and like these people are being
funny about it.
And they're being superconversational, very
approachable.
I think that that's whatthey're trying to show is just
this approachability to thefaith and trying to find this
new way of reaching out topeople, and so it's pretty
interesting, there's a lot ofyounger Catholic and Christian

(48:13):
influencers out there thatreally just talk about their
faith.

Speaker 2 (48:14):
No, it is really great.
I mean, if you go look, myInstagram feed is filled with
them.
They serve me up this stuff allthe time, which is great.
It's really cool to see and Ithink it's really smart and I do
think so whether we've kind ofbookended this episode, with
people in different votingblocks are moving, and this is

(48:35):
interesting too, because thatfaith thing that you're talking
about, I think, is the realundercurrent on what's happening
with men.
That's really interesting.

Speaker 4 (48:43):
Yeah, I think that men are definitely becoming a
bit more of the wanting to go tochurch.
They say that they're churchpews when you go into this
article Church pews with theyounger generation.
Sometimes it's vastly male,Male yeah.
And not as many females thatare attending, and so it's
vastly male and not as manyfemales that are attending.
And so it's just an interesting.
We obviously have this age, sowe pay attention to this because

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our kids are this age.
But I just think when you lookat the future and what the
future is, I still feel verypositive about this because
spirituality and Christianity isstill very high in America and
the faiths behind that are stillvery strong and actually had a
resurgence recently in the lastlike five years.
So I do think that it's notjust these young women are like
stepping away from the faith.

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I think in general, americansare coming back to a lot of some
of the morality issues andwanting to kind of hold onto
that Christian faith.
Okay, very cool.

Speaker 2 (49:33):
No, that's really good.
That's really good.
I, you know, looking at it now,we probably should have paired
it up with what we did at thefront, because you're right,
you're, I think you have a lot,a lot of the reasoning that you
see men moving right.
It, you know, follows a lot ofthe stuff we're talking about
here, and then we'll see whathappens.
This is really interesting.
All right, abe, we're going togo to clip 19.
Speaking of faith in in men,godly men, um, I, jared Allen,

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was a defensive end for theMinnesota Vikings and the Kansas
City Chiefs.
He was a great player and Ijust saw him give this little
speech, little speech.
He gave a speech a couple ofdays ago as he was inducted into
the Pro Football Hall of Fame,and these are speeches that
oftentimes are talking about, oh, when I played, you know.
But what struck me about JaredAllen here is that when he got

(50:17):
the opportunity to stand infront of a huge audience, he
took the chance to turn to Godand then turn to his family and
offer up some advice.
I thought it was really sweet.
So here's Jared Allen.

Speaker 7 (50:30):
And to my wife, I'm reminded of what Tom Lanphier
said when we were going throughour premarital counseling.
He said the two most importantdecisions you'll make in life is
one, whether you follow Jesusor not, and two is who you marry
, because there's only two typesof people.
There's boat anchors who dragyou down and there's people who

(50:53):
elevate you and you are a truegame elevator.
You're one of the smartestpeople I know.
I am in awe of you every singleday and I love you more than
life itself.
To my amazing daughters, thankyou no-transcript.

(51:25):
The hall often says they're hereto tell my story.
Well, I'm here to tell you two.
You are my greatestaccomplishments.
When I get called home toheaven one day, if all they talk
about is this gold jacket, mycareer, then I failed miserably
as a father, a husband and afriend.
You two are my legacy.

(51:46):
You are both so talented and Icannot wait to see what you
decide to do to conquer thisworld.
So always put Christ first,find your why.
Dream big dreams and alwayspursue greatness in whatever you
do.
Thank you all and may God blessyou all.

Speaker 2 (52:06):
That was great yeah it's great.
Just really cool, maybe becausehe has two daughters and you
know I'm in awe of you, babe.
Just so you know I was waitingto see it was very sweet of just
how much he really.

Speaker 4 (52:19):
you can see that he really is that leader of that
family, just how much he reallyrespects his wife and really
adores her.
And it's so true, like if youdo have.
Christ as the central point ofyour relationship.
I think that is what is themake it or break it in most
marriages.
It is when you both arefocusing on God at the same time
in your relationship and youput your relationship with God
first, before your relationshipeven with your spouse.

(52:40):
I think that is the determiningfactor between a solid marriage
that is founded on God's wordversus just trying to wing it in
this world and hope for thebest.

Speaker 2 (52:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (52:51):
And basing it all on your emotion because, as as a
couple who we've been, we'vebeen through it.
We've definitely been throughit and it's like if we based
everything on our if I liked youor not today, I might've packed
my bags a long time ago, fella.

Speaker 2 (53:01):
First of all, you go, look for me, I had already been
gone.

Speaker 4 (53:10):
You know what I'm saying.
So, uh, no, it's, uh, no, it's,it's really true.
No, you're exactly right andyeah, it's what I tell the girls
.
I'm like when you it comes timefor you to look for either a
guy to date or a relationship tobe in, or somebody to marry,
find somebody who loves Jesusmore than they love you and you
won't go wrong, like I just feellike if they really cause I
something that's just like yourdad.

Speaker 2 (53:29):
Oh, that's sweet so, and I know, but I appreciate it.
Well, no, ava, seriously focus,let's get this done, okay.
All right, we're doing this,okay.
And, by the way, on Wednesday'sshow we are going to have a
little thing with the girls,because Wednesday's show is
going to, so we will be gone fora week doing that, but we're
going to have the girls on andkind of have a little.

(53:51):
I don't know, we're going tohave a little look back, maybe
as Ava gets ready to takeanother huge step.

Speaker 4 (53:57):
A huge step.
Yeah, let's not talk about thatright now, because it's
something that I just can't.
Even I'm pushing all myfeelings down.

Speaker 2 (54:02):
Yeah, I know you are.
You're stuffing them down youcan't talk about it.
I get it, I'm with you, okay?
By the way, jared Allen alsoloves hunting, so Jared Allen
will love this segment, so we'lldo this one in honor of Jared
Allen.
It's Sunday, game day, and westart with.
We had a ton of rain up in theangel fire area and so this elk
comes in.
You can see all the ghost elk.

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Yeah, it's like a mist.
It's the mist and wanders on byI and he's in the middle of the
woods.

Speaker 4 (54:36):
I don't know how he gets through with the with the
elk horns.
I mean I really don't soimpressed by that.

Speaker 2 (54:38):
I am, I think.
I think it's absolutely missing.
And then later that night, onour other camera, this guy comes
through.
He's just kind of like what'sgoing on?
And this is a huge.
You can see, this is a hugetrail and so this trail has been
very good.
It's been our best game trailas far as getting stuff, because
it's just sort of a littlesuper highway.

Speaker 4 (54:55):
Well, you see, yeah, exactly, a super highway is
exactly right.
You see all of the animals onthis one camera yeah which is
you know it's amazing.

Speaker 2 (55:02):
Okay, it does make mark's life so happy okay so
this next one, and ava will showthis multiple times, okay does
not make me, make me happy.
This is the one where and I'vetold you guys I'm waiting for
the big predators to show up.
Well, guess what?
We got one.
So this.
And when I saw this shot, I waslike what is that?
And then, oh yeah, that is amountain lion.

Speaker 4 (55:22):
Yeah, ava, you can maybe zoom in just a little far
away, but yeah, yeah, so he'sgoing over.

Speaker 2 (55:26):
there's a puddle right there that he goes over
and drinks out of, but we'll goback, we'll.
We'll bring this back.
It's tough at night too.
It's tough with the definitionto see you know the real
definition there.
But there you go.

Speaker 4 (55:37):
Oh, he's huge.

Speaker 2 (55:38):
Yeah, he's a big old mountain lion Just like.
Hey, how you doing Looks prettyhealthy.

Speaker 4 (55:42):
Yeah, I don't want him anywhere near me or our dogs
.

Speaker 2 (55:51):
Yeah, yeah, no, agreed.
Small children, yep, and again,you don't see them often, right
and and, and I don't know howmany are in the area.
Obviously, angel fire the wholeValley down out through Eagle
nest.
There's plenty of mountainlions there and I was always
thinking we're going to get oneat some point.
And then there we go it,finally took us, took you a few
months which I'm kind of glad.

Speaker 4 (56:05):
I'm glad that they're not on the regular camera.

Speaker 2 (56:06):
I'm glad they're not like a weekly.
They're not, they don't show upweekly and say hey.
I'm here.
Look, they have no interest inyou, like they do not want to be
part of it.

Speaker 4 (56:13):
And then they hide in the trees, and then they jump
on you when you're hiking?

Speaker 2 (56:17):
No, they don't, they have Okay.
Well, there's a lot of thingsthat have happened but that'm
not.
I'm not sure about that Mostbears, mountain lions, they want
nothing to do with you.

Speaker 4 (56:31):
So you know, in the rankings of what I don't like to
put in our show, the airplaneissues that you love to throw in
.
Yes, okay, to hate thosemountain lion video.
Okay, those are my two leastfavorite things.

Speaker 2 (56:42):
I have not gotten another one since.
So, this is the only one, butit was last late last week so
once I saw that and I saw, I sawthe thumbnail come into my
phone and I'm like that could bea mountain lion.

Speaker 4 (56:54):
And then you I know you're so excited about it.
It's like they're stunning.

Speaker 2 (56:58):
They are stunning animals.
I mean, they really are.
They are gorgeous.

Speaker 4 (57:02):
Gorgeous, not anywhere near me.

Speaker 2 (57:03):
And they are killing machines.

Speaker 4 (57:05):
Like in a picture.

Speaker 2 (57:06):
Yeah, picture Gorgeous Ava.
That was pretty amazing.

Speaker 4 (57:08):
Anyway, okay, all right, thanks you guys for
joining us.
We'll be back here on Wednesday.
You guys have a great start toyour work week or whatever
you're doing school I know thosekids are going back to school
this week as well, so good luckto you all as you start this
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