Episode 216: The Trump-MLG National Guard Showdown

This week’s No Doubt About It Podcast is loaded with breaking news, sharp analysis, and a little behind-the-scenes from our family trip to Washington, D.C.

New Mexico Governor Michelle Lujan Grisham is sending the National Guard into another city—this time Espanola—just months after doing the same in Albuquerque. We actually applaud the decision… but here’s the kicker: she’s blasting President Trump for sending the Guard into Washington, D.C. We take the gloves off and expose the blatant political hypocrisy.

Mark lays out why good leaders make the right call no matter the politics, and why too many in D.C. would rather leave citizens unsafe than work with a president they oppose. We also dismantle the ridiculous claim from the left that “crime is going down in DC” as a reason not to bring in the Guard—showing how it’s as false as saying “the border is secure” or “inflation isn’t a problem.”

But Republicans aren’t off the hook either. The White House insists people shouldn’t be worried about inflation. We explain why that’s politically unwise when Americans are hurting, and how better messaging could help voters understand the real solutions. We’ve got polling on Trump’s handling of inflation, party favorability, and why keeping the House could be an uphill climb for Republicans.

Plus—Showboat Sam Bregman is heading to Carlsbad to raise money from oil and gas. Mark predicts which Dallas-style costume Sam might show up in to charm donors. And Krysty takes you inside our trip to Washington, D.C., including dropping Ava off at Liberty University… and the surprisingly intense process of decorating a girls’ dorm room.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 2 (00:05):
top of the cap to you top of the cap.
I don't know.
Tip of the cap.
There you go.
Whatever, I always mess them up, you know.

Speaker 3 (00:11):
Yeah, yeah, that's why I should always start the
show off, like give you a littlelittle room to start running
this thing in before you take itinto the dirt no, you just
nodded your head.

Speaker 2 (00:19):
So I was like oh, is that?
Okay, I guess I'm going you'regoing so you're giving me the
tip of the cap.
That's what I was trying to say.
Yeah, yeah, no doubt, no doubtI am.

Speaker 3 (00:26):
By the way, I know there are some of you who give
me the business.

Speaker 2 (00:31):
Yes.

Speaker 3 (00:32):
Because you like when I wear collared shirts and look
presentable really.

Speaker 2 (00:37):
You look a little rough today.

Speaker 3 (00:44):
I'm going a mood, I'm not going to lie.

Speaker 2 (00:46):
I mean, we did get home super late last night from
the East Coast, which is a toughtransition, and then you have
had meetings since 8 o'clockthis morning and you haven't
stopped.

Speaker 3 (00:56):
And I'm trying to think of one that's gone well.
So I just, you know, got alittle bit of a situation
developing here.

Speaker 2 (01:02):
Okay, so this is the stress mark.
This is welcome to seeingstress mark.

Speaker 6 (01:06):
This is what a stressed out mark looks like,
and you are double doing themerch today.

Speaker 3 (01:09):
I am merched up, you're wearing a lot of merch.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
I am, I got some Liberty merch.
Yeah, you definitely bought alot of Liberty merch when we
were at school.
You know why I did that.

Speaker 3 (01:18):
I'm cutting these cats some checks, checks.
I'm cutting them a significantcheck, so the least they can do,
they should be giving me thismerch.

Speaker 2 (01:27):
Yes, they should be free and I love the hat, by the
way the hat is it is killer andit is one of these ones I've had
to break in for years.

Speaker 3 (01:32):
Yeah, like this thing immediately and, by the way,
it's a hat for people with hugedomes like me yeah, big heads oh
, and then I mean the, the, theadjustment on the back.
It appears to have a small headby looking at the adjustment oh
, you don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:44):
So I'll be sure, yeah , I'll be sure to tell everybody
.
This is the extra large, xxllarge it is.

Speaker 3 (01:50):
It is for people with large, large domes.
I mean, it is unbelievable.
And, of course, yeah, I lovethe shirt.
I got some other liberty stuff.
I'm feeling good about it.

Speaker 2 (01:57):
I know you're our daughter.
Clearly, if you haven't figuredout where she's going to
college yet, um, now you'llfigure it out.
Uh, it'll be pretty obvious.
Mark's going to wear merchpretty much every day.

Speaker 3 (02:05):
No, that's not true.
That's not true.
I'm not going to do that, but Ido definitely have it going
today.

Speaker 2 (02:09):
Tell us what we're going to talk about, because we
do have a very stacked show.

Speaker 3 (02:12):
We do, we do, and I have a meeting about homecoming
planning.

Speaker 2 (02:15):
I got to get it to you.

Speaker 3 (02:16):
Okay, let's just let's not drag the show down
before we've even started theshow.
Okay, sorry, I'm just lookingat a rundown here.
Okay, a couple of things.
This Trump sending the nationalguard into DC is blowing up
everywhere right In.
The arguments on it areludicrous, but it just so
happens.
Our own governor is sending thenational guard into a second

(02:38):
town in New Mexico and we arehere to applaud her for that and
to maybe potentially critiquesome of what's happening with
that situation.
But we're going to talk aboutit and that Trump DC stuff.
We're going to get into somegreat sound.
There's some great soundtalking about this and how crazy
it is.
And then we're also going totalk about the political parties

(02:58):
and, as they're trending,there's one party that hates
itself, there's another partythat loves itself, but the
American people seem to seem tobe saying to both parties eh,
not so much to you, two parties.
So we'll talk a little bitabout that.
And we're also got our guyshowboat Sam.
He is another fundraiser.

Speaker 5 (03:15):
He's got a fundraiser costume.

Speaker 3 (03:17):
Well, we'll see what he who he dresses as, and I
think we have some guesses onhow he's going to dress.
That's coming up next week inCarlsbad, oh.

Speaker 2 (03:23):
I can't wait.

Speaker 3 (03:23):
So we're going to, I guess, try to explain how this
is happening with, by the way,there's some Carlsbad in Eddy
County is full of incrediblygood people.
I mean some of our favorite inthe state live in Carlsbad and
some of some great.
There's some great people thatare show about Sam, which is
craziness, but anyway, we'll getinto that.
Wallethub has the new beststates to live in.

Speaker 2 (03:46):
Can't wait to see where we rank on that.

Speaker 3 (03:48):
That's not great, but there are some areas where we
do okay, we're not going to doit to run down New Mexico, we're
going to do it to show thereare a couple areas that are
actually pretty good.

Speaker 2 (04:04):
That's good.

Speaker 3 (04:05):
And then we'll go through that, and then a little
bit of getting ava's room readyto roll oh dorm life, which is
kind of taking over our lives.
For a couple, about a month,and it didn't take over my life.

Speaker 2 (04:13):
I just showed up, no it sure didn't, uh, and we'll
talk about that too, but we'llsave that for the end of the
show yes all right, so let's getinto this mlg sending in the
national guard to the secondcity here in New Mexico.
She's sending it into Espanola.
This came out moments basicallybefore we put this video
together.

Speaker 3 (04:30):
Yeah so Dan Boyd sent out a tweet and then did an
article on it.
Michelle Luan Grisham hasissued an order with the state
of emergency in Espanola and thesurrounding areas due to crime.
The order authorizes thedeployment of New Mexico
National Guard troops for fourmonths, after a similar
emergency order for Albuquerque.
Okay, and so I want to start bysaying oh, first of all, let's

(04:53):
just do the article real quick.
So here's the article thatoccurred in the journal.
It says amid surge in drugoverdoses and again, this is
fentanyl, fentanyl is rackingRio Riba County.
Okay, it is horrible and, bythe way, one of the best
counties in the state.
The people in Rio Riba Countyare tremendous people.
They have tremendous pride inEspanola, and I'm gonna point

(05:13):
out something key here coming up.
But I will tell you, this isone of those counties in the
state.
The more time you spend in it,the more you love it.
You really do.
But they have real challengeswith addiction, right, and so
this is what the governor said.
Okay, she said she was calledon by leaders of Espanola to
call in the National Guard, andhere was her quote.

Speaker 2 (05:33):
Okay.
When our local leaders calledfor help to protect their
communities, we respondedimmediately with decisive action
.
Lujan Grisham said in astatement we are making every
resource available to supportour local partners on the ground
and restore public safety andstability to those areas that
have been hit the hardest bythis crisis.

Speaker 3 (05:53):
OK, ok, yeah, so she does that, and I just want to
say Good job, governor, fullstop, great job, and every
Republican should support youand, by the way, there are
Republicans quoted in thisarticle that do good job.
I mean, it's what you should do, it's what should have been
happening for years, but that'sfine.
You stood up and said you knowwhat?
I'm not going to letcommunities in my state suffer

(06:14):
through this.
I'm going to step in.
Heck.
Yeah, that's what leaders doand that's what you should do,
and you're smart for doing it,and I'm glad you did.
Okay, that's how people whocare about results respond.
That's it when you don't playpolitics.
The response is good job,governor.
They need your help.
Give them everything they need.
Talk to everybody in the stateto give them everything they

(06:37):
need.

Speaker 2 (06:37):
Okay, well, that's great.
However, she's gone on here inthis article with some quotes
against Trump doing somethingsimilar and how his ideas are
very different than her.
So her doing something similarto what Trump does is completely
different and she wants you toknow about that because it's

(06:59):
very important.
So she goes on to say thegovernor and the mayor insisted
the situations are different inlarge part because New Mexico
local leaders have requested thestate level involvement.
Here's her quote.
The contrast couldn't beclearer While President Trump
uses the National Guard totrample local leadership, New
Mexico brings together local andstate governments to make our

(07:20):
communities genuinely safer.
Lujan Grisham and Mayor Kellersaid in their joint statement.

Speaker 3 (07:26):
And, to be clear, that joint statement, which
we'll show you here right now,goes back a couple of days
before this Espanola thing.
Okay, so what Boyd did was hetook some of those statements
which makes sense out of herprior statement with Keller and
basically the reason she issuedthis statement you're looking at
right here it's with Keller acouple of days ago is because
she wanted to head off thecriticism that she's a hypocrite

(07:48):
, right.
So she goes and issues thisthing with Keller and says by
the way, we did this becausewe're cooperating.
Okay, here's the thing.
When you have leaders in townslike Espanola who are smart
enough to say we got a problem,we need help, that is good on
Espanola, because they're smartand they realize they need help,

(08:08):
and then the governor steppedin to give him help.
Good for you.
In DC.
Muriel Bowser and thepoliticians in DC will never
find an issue that they can'tplay politics with.
So they are so corrupted bypolitics that their city has
exploded with crime and theywould rather have their people

(08:29):
killed in the streets than standup and admit they have a
problem.
That is not Trump's problem.
Trump, as a leader, says youknow what?
I'm sorry that you're notwilling to step up and help your
people, but I'm going to do itfor you anyway, and he is.
And if Governor Lujan Grishamwere a true leader in this case,
which she is on half the issuegoing and helping Espanola,

(08:51):
great, Stand up and say you knowwhat, when we have crime raging
out of control, you have tostep in.
It's your job as a leader.

Speaker 2 (08:59):
Well, and keep in mind that Trump said a couple of
days ago in his press, like apress statement he was talking
about how his dad told him whenhe was a kid when you go to a
restaurant, don't eat at arestaurant that has a dirty
front door, because it shows youthat the kitchen is dirty in
the back right, so you haven'ttaken enough pride in your whole
place.
He says Washington DC is thefront door to our country.

(09:20):
And so if these basicallyoperators of DC, the mayor and
the chief of police and all that, if they're not going to take
over and keep crime low in ournation's Capitol, then he's
going to step in and make sure,because this is kind of our like
, this is our country's Capitol,and if we are.
you know, if crime's out ofcontrol, it's his right and his

(09:42):
duty to step in.
It's his duty, it's his duty.

Speaker 3 (09:45):
You're right, it's his right too.
Yeah, no, you're absolutelyright.
In fact, we were in DC over thepast week.
We were staying in Georgetown.
Georgetown is sort of the LosRanchos of DC.
Okay, it is really nice, it'svery nice, very nice, okay.
So what we saw is some of whatyou see described across DC,

(10:05):
which is we had a guy one night.
We're standing on the main road, wisconsin in Georgetown, and a
kid comes roaring downGeorgetown, right through the
center of Georgetown, on an ATV.
Okay, yeah, hello, hello.
Like this isn't Mad Max, likeyou don't get to do that, but
now they do.
Okay, and it's out of control.
And Trump is right to step in.

(10:27):
And once again, the narrativefrom the media who take their
talking points, from politicianswho tell them how to phrase
things.
Now the media againdisingenuous.
I don't know how many times wecan look back and see what's
happened, whether it'severything with the Russiagate
which has gone on to show that,how much was fabricated, right
To issue after issue.
The border's not a big deal.

(10:48):
Don't worry about it.
Don't worry about inflation,don't worry about everything the
media recycles.
Joe's fine, joe's totallynormal.

Speaker 2 (10:54):
He's totally fine, everything's good.

Speaker 3 (10:56):
You hear all this ridiculous framing and they're
doing it again.
So the hill does it again.
So we want to pivot here, butwe'll get to that in one sec.
Ells, I'm sorry for jumping onyou there, but just overall,
look, it was the right thing todo in New Mexico.
In New Mexico's leaders, bothRepublican and Democrat, have
taken the right approach.
Jim Townsend talked about it.

(11:17):
He said we should be doing this.
Good for him.
You know, when you really careas a leader, you stand up and
you don't bury your politicalopponent just because they're
your political opponent.
If they're doing the rightthing, say it.
But I'm telling you right now,once again, the far left is
driving off a cliff.
So let's then pivot to DC,where all this stuff is going on

(11:39):
.
And again, we're not going toread through the governor and
Tim Keller statement.
It was ridiculous, it wasstupid.
They're.
They should be better than this.
They're not, but they should be.

Speaker 2 (11:47):
Yeah, I just think that that's the disappointing
part of this whole part of it tome is yes, I can absolutely say
thank you for stepping in andsending in some additional help
with these communities that needit.
I also have a big problem withthe fact that we are sanctuary
state, sanctuary city.
We have a problem at the border, we've had a problem with drugs
, we've had a problem with crimefor her entire administration,

(12:09):
yep.
And then you come down on Trumpwhen there's offer to be help
at the border.
She doesn't want that, kellerdoesn't want that.
So I think they take bits andpieces where they say I'm going
to put my name on this and I'mgoing to make us safer.
I'm going to do this.
But in general, the big pictureof keeping people in our state

(12:31):
safe has not been their primaryfocus.
It has not been their end game.
So I'm sorry that I still sithere and go.
They're still politicizing it.
The fact that they had to putit they had to put a press
release out three days prior tothis all going down shows that
this is still.
They're still politicizing.
They do not want this to be byany means.
They're not going to complimentTrump on doing something very

(12:52):
similar.
They want to make sure that youknow that they are not doing
what Trump's doing, and I justthink who cares Like?
The whole point is you send inhelp when a city or community
needs help, regardless of who'sthe one that's calling for that.

Speaker 3 (13:04):
Yep, and I'll tell you what the bottom line is.
You're exactly right and thebottom line is true.
Leadership from the people inthis state is conditional on
politics.
When it works for thempolitically, they'll be a leader
.
When it doesn't, they willleave us twisting in the wind,
and we deserve better than that,and anybody who's a leader in
any state should be better thanthat.

(13:25):
It's the lowest possiblestandard.
Be a leader day in, day out,even when it's hard and even
when it doesn't line up withyour politics.
But we don't get that.
However, in DC, it is ugly, andthis framing from the Hill is
something that is classicjournalism.

Speaker 2 (13:44):
Here we go, five takeaways as Trump seizes
control of.

Speaker 3 (13:47):
DC Seizes control.
That's what they're going foryeah Seizes.

Speaker 2 (13:50):
Control of DC police deploys National Guard.

Speaker 3 (13:52):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (13:53):
President Trump announced Monday that he was
taking control of the Districtof Columbia's police and
deploying the National Guard.
Trump portrayed the moves,which will involve about 800
National Guard troops, as aresponse to high crime rates in
the nation's capital.
Keep them going here, it saysthere's.
Reporters in a packed WhiteHouse briefing room received
handouts just before thepresident spoke, where the
district's murder rate was shownas higher than those of other

(14:15):
international cities, includingDelhi, london, bogota, columbia.
Police statistics, however,show crime rates in the district
have fallen sharply over thepast two years.
Violent crime is down 26% whencompared year to date, against
2024.

Speaker 3 (14:29):
Okay, let's just stop right there.
Oh no, I'm sorry, Do your lastlittle paragraph.

Speaker 2 (14:32):
Last year in turn, saw a 32% drop in homicides and
a 35% drop in overall violentcrime compared to 2023.
Okay, that being said, thetotal number of homicides last
year 187.

Speaker 3 (14:48):
187 homicides.

Speaker 2 (14:50):
Was still above the years that immediately preceded
2020 COVID-19 pandemic.

Speaker 3 (14:55):
Okay, 187 homicides is nuts.
Okay, it's way higher than NewYork.
It's way higher than big cities.
It's the same size Like crimeis not going down.
But I would like to justrespectfully point out clip
Tanella after after they, theylist all these things.
Okay, All right.
Now a deployment in nationalguard troops has been predicted

(15:16):
is part because of the districtstatus short of full statehood
gives the president clearcontrol.
Okay, so the president hasevery right to do this, every
right, and everybody knows it.
Okay, the decision to restcontrol of Washington's police,
metropolitan police,metropolitan police department,
MPD, was a significantly largerstep.
The fact that it came amidfalling crime rates makes it

(15:38):
even more controversial.
Hmm, Ella, could you please goto, uh, go to the next clip
please?
Headline NBC Washington DCPolice commander suspended,
accused of changing crimestatistics.
They're lying to you.
Ok, everybody knows it.

Speaker 2 (15:55):
And that just happened.

Speaker 3 (15:56):
OK, yes, yes, it just happened, ok.
So the point being is thisthey're fixing the crime
statistics and they're saying,which is just ludicrous way to
operate, but they've done it onmultiple occasions.
We're going to get to somegreat sound on this in just a
second.
Do not believe your lying eyes.
We've been told this here inAlbuquerque and New Mexico too.
We're the most violent state inthe country.
We've been told the same thingCrime's not a problem, crime's

(16:18):
not a problem.

Speaker 2 (16:19):
It does bring back the flashback of what we talked
about on a previous show, whereyou have Tim Keller out there
with some press conferencesaying, hey, our crime is down,
our crime rates have gone down,and literally the next day MLG
sends in the National Guard tohelp fight crime in the city of.
Albuquerque and then says, oh,because Keller asked us for it.
So again it's like thismanipulation of hey, I'm running
for reelection.

(16:39):
I want you to know that I'vegot everything under control.
If you cannot see the politicsin this, and as just an everyday
person that lives here whowants to keep themselves and
their family safe, it'sridiculous and it's not being
fair or honest In a leadershipposition.
You're not being fair to thepeople that you're supposed to
be protecting.

Speaker 3 (16:57):
But I would even say politically, it's political
suicide, it's idiotic.
Here's the heat map on carsbeing stolen in the DC area.
This is on the DC policewebsite.
Look at the heat map.
It's on fire.
There are a ton of carjackingsall over DC.
Ok, but again, if this soundsfamiliar to you, if it sounds

(17:20):
familiar to hear from the farleft, crime isn't bad.
Shut up, economy is good.
Shut up, the border is sealed.
Shut up biden's fine.
Shut up, okay.

Speaker 8 (17:31):
Well, here's se cup on cnn, laying the wood to that
type of narrative and I can'ttell you how profoundly stupid
it is for democrats to get upwith their facts and their
figures and their charts andtheir graphs and say look,
you're safe.
Can't you read this chart,idiots, why are you complaining?
I'm showing you right here howsafe you are, so shut up and

(17:52):
move along.
I don't have to tell you howprofoundly stupid that is,
because voters told you howprofoundly stupid that was in
2024 when Democrats said see,these economic numbers.
Economy's great.
What are you complaining about?
See these crime numbers.
Crime's down.
You're safe.
See these immigration numbers.
Obama deported way more.
There's no migrant crisis.
I can't tell you enough thatpolitics is perception and the

(18:18):
numbers can be right, but younever tell voters they're wrong
about how they feel.

Speaker 3 (18:24):
Congress.
Ok, so I might disagree withher a little there at the end in
the respect that I think thenumbers are actually wrong.
But either way, when you go,everybody that lives in DC knows
how dangerous it is, and we'renot just talking about some of
the worst pockets andneighborhoods.
Everybody's feeling it.

Speaker 2 (18:39):
Yeah, I mean this was an interesting clip that you
pulled from just the local ABCNews chapter right there in DC.
This news anchor had her ownpersonal perspective on just how
bad the crime has gotten, andshe decided just to go ahead and
share it with her viewers.

Speaker 7 (18:53):
We've been talking so much about the numbers and,
yeah, usually that's how youplay devil's advocate, is you
talk about?
Oh well, stats say crime isdown.
However, I can tell youfirsthand here in downtown DC,
where we work, right here aroundour bureau, just in the past
six months there were two peopleshot.
One person died literally twoblocks down here from the bureau
.
It was within the last twoyears that I actually was jumped

(19:17):
walking just two blocks downfrom here.
And then just this morning oneof my coworkers said her car was
stolen a block away from thebureau.
So we can talk about thenumbers going down, but crime is
happening every single daybecause we're all experiencing
it firsthand while working andliving down here.

Speaker 3 (19:39):
There you go, so again, you do not feel what you
feel.
Shut up and get in line.
Or how dare President Trump dothis?
He's a dictator who's trying totake over the city and not
listening to anybody whenthere's no crime crisis.
It's a terrible approach.
It will not work.
But more than anything else, itputs people at risk because

(20:02):
they don't do their job in thefirst place to keep their city
safe.
They don't do it.
They don't do the job and thenwhen someone steps in and does
it for them, they cry dictator.
And it is absolutelydisingenuous.
It's pathetic.

Speaker 2 (20:15):
Yeah, the number one job for governor.
By the way, I did look this upwhen you were running.
I've shared this on the showbefore Then literally the number
one job of the governor of thestate is to keep the residents
safe.
It's literally the number one.
Your whole role is to do that,and I just think I just don't.
I guess I don't understand toohow voters not all voters, but
some voters don't correlate thecrime rates and the high drug

(20:39):
rate to the leadership, and I'mjust like they don't want to
blame leaders for that.

Speaker 3 (20:47):
And I'm like you, better vote differently, because
clearly, what we got goingdoesn't work.
Well, dc is not going to vote.
They're 90 to 10.
So it doesn't even it'sunbelievable, though, but yeah,
no, I agree.
They're not going to votedifferently, though.
So the question becomes you know, how do leaders handle how
these things work?
And clearly we're seeing it'sjust again like thing, which is
incredibly disappointing.
It falls along partisan lines,which is just ridiculous.
But now, pivoting from that, Iwant to say Republicans are

(21:09):
capable of making the dumbmistakes that Democrats make.
They are absolutely capable ofit, and they may be in the
middle of it again.
Okay, so we keep talking aboutprices and we keep talking about
interest rates and what'shappening with with cost of
living in New Mexico, in thecountry as a whole.
So I'll tell you what wasinteresting.

(21:30):
Caroline Leavitt, I think, doesa really good job for the
president, although I will say,when I listen to the sound bite
you're about to hear, Idefinitely got 2022 vibes all
over again with inflation andkind of the old hey, stupid
things are better, don't you getit?
Listen to Caroline Leavitt here.

Speaker 6 (21:49):
We continue to see positive economic reports across
the board.
Today's CPI report revealedthat inflation beat market
expectations once again andinflation remains stable.
Overall inflation has run at a1.9 average annual pace in
President Trump's first sixmonths in office.
Prices for everyday goodscontinue to decline.

(22:12):
Energy prices fell in July,including gasoline, which is
down nearly 10 percent over lastyear, and propane, which is
down two and a half percent overlast year as well.
Egg prices fell once again inJuly and are down 20% since
President Trump took office.
Shelter inflation, the largestcontributor to overall inflation

(22:34):
, is at its lowest level sinceOctober of 2021.
Wage growth for American workersis beating inflation once again
.
As inflation declines, thisadministration continues to be
wholeheartedly committed toputting more money back into the
American people's pockets.
American real wages are up 1.3percent over last year and have

(22:55):
increased each month sincePresident Trump took office, and
small business optimism,according to this morning's
report, has also reached afive-month high.
Ignore the panikins and trustin President Trump.
That is our motto here at theWhite House.
The America first economicagenda is working.

Speaker 3 (23:12):
OK, people don't feel that prices are still high.
Remember, when she talks aboutone point nine percent relation,
she's right in the respect thatit's not skyrocketing anymore,
but it's still going up.
Ok, that's still going up.
And so people are still havingtrouble catching up because of
what happened a few years ago,which we've talked about
endlessly.
So I think messages like thataren't productive.

(23:36):
They're not helpful.
They're not helpful.
So what you want to continue tosee is you want to see prices
continue to decline in energyand things like that, because
that gets transferred down right.
The cost of everything isconnected to energy, because the
cheaper energy is, the cheaperit is to move things, goods and
services across country.
So I, just as I watched that, Iwas like that won't work, that

(23:58):
won't work.
And then, what do you know?
Some new data is out and newinformation is out, and voters
right now are still salty aboutinflation.
It may not be fair to Trump,because he wasn't there when it
all went up in the first place,but he's got to deal with it and
because of that, I think you'restarting to see voters lose

(24:18):
some patience with this, andI'll tell you, this is why, in a
midterm, a presidential midterm.
It's very tough to run as theparty.
That's the same as thepresident, and so let's just
listen to what Harry Enten saysabout these numbers.

Speaker 1 (24:34):
Right.
So we start off this segment bysaying that inflation was the
reason that Donald Trump waselected.
It was the most important issuefor the voters back last year
at this point, and look at wherewe are today.
What is the top issue for youright now?
It's a runaway.
It's inflation.
It's 34% compared to theeconomy, which is basically very
similar, at 16%, medicare andsocial security at 14%.

(24:56):
But the bottom line is votersin poll after poll after poll
say that Donald Trump has takenhis eye off the ball, off the
big issue of the day, which isinflation, and that is why
Donald Trump is way underwateron this issue and it's why
Democrats have caught up toRepublicans on the all important
issue of inflation.
I can guarantee you this,jessica if these numbers look
right now like they do, or willlook on election day 2026, there

(25:19):
is no way on God's green earththat Republicans can hold on to
the House of Representatives.
These numbers.
As I said, an abject disasterfor Donald Trump and therefore
Republicans.

Speaker 7 (25:28):
I mean I'm no hair.

Speaker 3 (25:29):
OK.
So again, I think he'soverstating it in the respect
that, yeah, you've seen thingsslide back a little bit, but
when you don't have any answerson the other side on how to deal
with that, you will see peopleslide over and it's just a
difficult environment.
So an eye on prices has tocontinue.
The president has to continueto have that as the laser focus.
It's the reason again we'vesaid it a million times it's the

(25:50):
reason he wants interest ratesdown.
He needs these things to startto happen, so people start to
feel like some of the pressureon their financial chest starts
to ease.

Speaker 2 (25:58):
Starts to lift up.

Speaker 3 (25:59):
Yeah, I mean, do you?

Speaker 2 (26:00):
believe that this is when he's saying like, hey, this
is going to be a real, thiscould be a real issue for our
house of representatives.
I mean, do you really thinkthat that's going to be?
You think it's going to losethe house?
I mean absolutely.

Speaker 3 (26:12):
I mean it only got a five seat majority.
Odds are you're going to losethe house and odds are you're
not going to gain any big seats.
I mean that's just the way itusually works.
And and in the state of NewMexico?
I mean, the numbers are gettingbetter and better.
For you know the partybreakdown in the state of New
Mexico to be more equalized.
Still, like when we ran, it wasa 14 point edge for Democrats

(26:32):
in the state of New Mexico.
It's now down to 10.
So it's that's that's shavingdown, but it's still in a
midterm like this.
It's going to be very difficult.
I don't think it's going to bea blowout at all, for the
reasons we talk about every timeon the show.
Right, when, for the reasons wetalk about every time on this
show, right, when you haveridiculous approach after
ridiculous approach from theDemocrats, you're like, okay,
come on, so I don't thinkthey're going to make up huge

(26:53):
ground, but they don't have thatmuch to make up, and so this is
just one of those things thatthere's a reason Again, they
keep focusing so heavily oninterest rates and on prices,
because it matters.
And so the whole approach ofhey, things are good, you zip it
right.
You hear a little bit of that,and Caroline Leavitt, not as bad
as what we've heard before, butyou hear a little bit of it and

(27:14):
it doesn't work.
You can't tell people thingsare fine, things are fine Right.
That doesn't work.

Speaker 2 (27:21):
Right, okay.
So if they would say somethinglike yeah, we've still.
We recognize that prices arestill higher than we all want,
especially in these arenas.
This is what we're trying towork on.

Speaker 3 (27:30):
Here's what we're doing.

Speaker 2 (27:31):
Here's what we're trying to do to combat that.
That would be more helpful, Ithink, that kind of honest
messaging, which Trump isusually pretty honest.
I'm kind of surprised thatthat's the direction that that
messaging is going.

Speaker 3 (27:40):
Yeah, it's one thing, and I think sometimes White
Houses, you know they may have aday where they just their
messaging isn't quite what Iwould want it to be, but
whatever, I mean it's not notthe end of the world, but but
but it is something that youneed to realize, that you know,
and I know a lot of people areso frustrated for number of
candidates and things like thatin the state of New Mexico, like
who's going to run, who's notgoing to run.
It's a real uphill battle this,this cycle, and to think it

(28:03):
isn't you're kidding yourself.
I know You're doing fantasy landstuff, like oh, we saw this
number and this number and thisnumber, that stuff's fantasy
world.
It really is.
It's gonna be a real uphillbattle, it just is.
It's the way it goes sometimes.
And again, I don't think it'sgonna be a blowout, I don't.
I don't.
Republicans aren't gonna losethe Senate and Republicans will
lose the House, I think by a fewseats.

(28:24):
But at least you have torealize that you're fighting
uphill because you're the onesin charge and if you can't get
prices right down, people aregoing to start to go well, well,
well, and whether it's fair ornot doesn't matter.

Speaker 2 (28:38):
Okay Well, party politics basically like what you
classify yourself is changing alittle bit, so talk a little
bit about this, this Gallup pollthat has come out.

Speaker 3 (28:48):
Well, we, so we did remember in 2024, we talked
about for the first time in along time, uh, republicans, and
really it goes back to about2023 and the kind of mid Biden
administration you started tohave more Republicans in the
country than Democrats.
I self-identified, so if youtake a look here the latest
Gallup poll is out and LF we goin tight on this what you'll see

(29:10):
is Democrats have overtakenRepublicans again, right?
So Republicans had an advantagelargely through the whole Biden
administration, like the minuteBiden started doing things that
didn't work, right, and so wewere like, yeah, I'm not that
party, I don't believe in that.
And so now, what are you seeing?
Here?
You go again.
This is what I'm talking about,though, when I say that this is
an uphill battle.
All of a sudden, you're downthree points as a Republican.

(29:32):
So, just, that's some of whatyou see.
But now, if you're a Democrat,I'll tell you there's no reason
to get cocky.
Why?
Because the approval of yourparty is at an all-time low 34%
of the American people approveof the Democratic Party 34%.

Speaker 2 (29:52):
Yeah, down from 54%.
Oh, I mean, just look at itover the past 20.

Speaker 3 (29:57):
The party itself is cratered Okay, and you actually
see that even in the state ofNew Mexico, although winning the
elections they've won there'sno question they have, there's
no doubt because they've done agood job at running elections
but they have not donenecessarily a good job at
maintaining their voter base.
And so 34 percent approval forfor Democrats.

(30:17):
For Republicans it's slightlybetter at 38 percent OK, but not
, you know, not significantlybetter.
But things are definitelybetter for Republicans than they
have been recently.
But the big difference betweenthe two parties is how they feel
about themselves.
Ninety one percent ofRepublicans are happy with their
own party, democrats 73 percentand going down.

(30:41):
Democrats have been crateringin the past four years.
You can see the numbers.
They were up at 94% in 2021when Biden took over.
Now they're down to 73.
They have shed 20% of theirvoters as far as being happy
with what they have.
So just some interesting stuffthere.

Speaker 2 (31:02):
That's interesting.

Speaker 3 (31:02):
Okay, okay.

Speaker 2 (31:03):
So here we go.
So I got a little information.
It's good, this is good.

Speaker 3 (31:07):
I got a little information that showboat Sam
Sam Bregman is going down toEddie County next week with some
Republican donors, oil and gascountry and they are on board
with.

Speaker 2 (31:18):
Sam Bregman.

Speaker 3 (31:19):
With Sam Bregman Interesting so what was amazing
to me is I kind of thought tomyself at first, like so, who's
so, who's he going to be?
Myself at first, like so, who'sso, who's he going to be?
Is he going to be a rancher SamWith has, like no, eddie County
.
I don't think he's gonna berancher Sam, I think he's going
to be oil man Sam.
And so I think basically he'sgoing to do his best Jr Ewing
impression and he's going toshow up in Eddie County as Jr

(31:40):
Ewing, because you know what Imean.
I mean you see him there, thelook on the face.
Right, let's go back to thelook on the face.
I mean you can tell he meansbusiness JR does.
Yeah, you know he's got thegray hat.
We know Showboat likes to weara darker hat, but so I'm
thinking he's going to walk inand do his best JR Ewing as he
walks around and glad handseverybody.

Speaker 2 (32:00):
Okay.
Well, don't forget, though,that JR Ewing is also known for.
You know, he does do the littletip of the cap.

Speaker 3 (32:05):
Oh, you're adding the tip.
Oh my yeah in a black cowboyhat Okay.
Oh, so you're thinking this ismore what we're going to get.

Speaker 2 (32:10):
This is more what you're going to get at a show
about Sam Down in the oil andgas country.
He's going to be Captain Oiland Gas, jr Ewing right now Okay
.
So this is Sam Bergman, this ishis actual, I believe, and he
did do a tip of the cap.
So this is not Pride Parade,sam, because we've seen that
invitation too.

Speaker 3 (32:27):
No, this is not Pride .
This is very different PrideParade.
Sam has never met.

Speaker 2 (32:32):
Carlsbad.

Speaker 3 (32:33):
Oil man Sam.
Those two have never met.

Speaker 2 (32:36):
I can't wait to see what Dev Holland does with Oil
and Gas Sam because theycouldn't be more polar opposite
on this whole issue.

Speaker 3 (32:46):
When JR Ewing Bregman shows up.
I cannot wait to see it.

Speaker 2 (32:50):
I hope he goes in on his horse.

Speaker 3 (32:52):
No see, I don't think so.
I think he's going to come in,he's going to save that for a
different county.
Oh, no question about it.

Speaker 2 (32:57):
That'll be a different county.
He rolls in on his horse.
I'm sorry, but he Clovis, itwill be rancher, it will be
rancher Sam, so that will bedifferent and he will show up on
his horse.
We're going to do at some pointwe need to have like all of his
costumes, like all hischaracters.

Speaker 3 (33:14):
And I will tell you, I Republicans who think that
this is the solution, are makinga terrible mistake.
It is a terrible mistake.
First of all, we will get agood Republican candidate First
of all.
Secondly, sam Bregman.
He is all things to all peopleand he will be whatever you want
him to be until he wins.

(33:36):
And then it's going to be Sam'snot going to have time for that
phone call.

Speaker 2 (33:40):
Right, and Sam is not a centrist, like everybody
seems to think that he's acentrist.
No, he's not a centrist.
No, but it is a throwback.

Speaker 3 (33:47):
So what's really interesting about him, though,
is it is a throwback, because,now, one of the most appealing
things you get with with today'spolitics is the people that are
who they are tend to berewarded, and what I mean by
that is people who don't try tobe all things to all people.
They don't, and actually Trumpwas a good example of that, but
then you see it from otherpeople as well that stand up and

(34:09):
say, yeah, no, I'm not doingthat, and authenticity matters,
and this is the antithesis ofauthenticity, and so will it
work?
Maybe so.

Speaker 2 (34:20):
I don't think it will , clearly, but what Netflix show
is Sam in today?
Yeah really he's in in all.

Speaker 3 (34:25):
He's plays all different characters, so we
should start putting his netflixshows on our show well, no, you
could have a sam for everyseason, is what we should call
it.
We have four different sams.
Okay, just depends.
Yeah, environmentalist samcould be oil sam.

Speaker 2 (34:38):
I can't wait to see environmentalist sam oh, he's
coming out where he shows up,because he's gonna fight for all
things clean water, oh,absolutely energy accountability
yeah, oh yeah, I can't wait forthat guy, oh, absolutely after
he goes and tries and tries toget donors from oil and gas to
give as much money as they canpossibly give them.
Yes, so yeah, no doubt, yeah,okay, that's phony at all no,
not at all.

Speaker 3 (34:57):
not a great call down in eddie county, you guys, good
call down there.
I will not name specific peopleon this, but I am quite
disappointed with a few of them,no question about it.
It Not that they care if I'mdisappointed in them, but it is.
It is a mistake, more thananything else it is a mistake,
but we'll see, we'll continue towatch it.
And also, he's going to get hisclock cleaned in the primary.
Okay, um, well, it is, I mean.

(35:17):
So I'm sorry, that's just nothow things work but okay, we can
do magic fantasy land where youget to run.
Is this all things to all people?
Turns out your base cares, andif a Republican tried to come in
and be half a Democrat, they'dget destroyed in a primary in
the state of New Mexico.
But I love how everybody justmanages to forget that we're
going to support Sam because theDemocrats will support him too.

(35:39):
No, they won't.
Yeah, no, they won't.
It's not how it works.
Would you support half aDemocrat?
Oh, yeah, you are.
But let's say you're not inCarlsbad doing this.
Let's say you actually have,you know, a clear mind to look
at the candidates and you say,would you, as a Republican,
support someone that was half aDemocrat?
The answer would be no, not ina primary.
It's not how it works.
It's not how either party worksin the primaries.

(36:01):
So come on, but all right.
So let's move on.
But all right, so let's move on.
Sorry.

Speaker 2 (36:04):
I'm getting a little annoyed.
No, no, no, no, I totally getit.

Speaker 3 (36:06):
I think people depend .
Pretending to be Republicansand pretending to try to go in
and get all the support drivesme crazy.

Speaker 2 (36:13):
Well it's.
They pretend to be Republicansbecause he's trying to get money
from donors from oil and gas,which have deeper pockets than
the, than some of the otherfolks that he goes to chat with
Right.
So I just feel like it's likehe's playing a game that's what
it feels like to me Like he'strying to be like I'm going to
be this Right, it's likeeverybody else is an idiot.

Speaker 3 (36:32):
I'll be this guy for you, yeah.

Speaker 2 (36:34):
And then he's up at the but I'm going to do this for
you guys over here, and thenwhat do you need?
Oh, I'll do that too for you.
I mean, like, wake up voters.
Like he's going to have to makethese decisions, but first he'd
like a check from you.
So please pony up first forthis guy and then watch him pick
the side that he's going topick which is not a centrist.

Speaker 3 (36:55):
What he's going to pick is your pocket, because
that's how it's going to go andyou're going to be like what
happened.
Showboat told me that he wasgoing to take my call.
I thought how did this getthrough the legislature?

Speaker 2 (37:05):
Why did he sign?

Speaker 3 (37:06):
it oh weird.

Speaker 2 (37:07):
Please, yeah, all right, here we go.
Believe people when they showyou who they are.

Speaker 3 (37:14):
Yeah, but who is he again?
I mean, you should know who heis.
Stop.
This is true.

Speaker 2 (37:18):
I mean my gosh.
Can we see who he really is?

Speaker 3 (37:21):
No, we do.
He's a lefty, I mean that isfunny, that was a good line.

Speaker 2 (37:25):
Okay, so talking about the latest survey here on
best states to live in, right,we like to talk a little bit
about this.
It's always interesting to meto see kind of the top five per
se.

Speaker 3 (37:35):
Yeah.
So what's interesting too isthey do this, wallethub does
this stuff all the time, butthis one they do is a little
more in-depth, and you look atsome of the categories that they
keep an eye on here, which isinteresting.
So the total scoreMassachusetts came out on top
and part of the reason itusually does by the way?
Yeah, it does.
Now, affordability rank isterrible they're 44th.

Speaker 4 (37:54):
It's an expensive state yeah, they're very
expensive there.

Speaker 3 (37:56):
Expensive state, yeah .
And then economy rank is prettydang good at nine and their
education killer.

Speaker 2 (38:02):
Number one, and health, by the way.
So your health care is reallystrong there.
I mean, we have people that weknow personally that go to go to
Boston for health care becauseit's some of the best in the
country.

Speaker 3 (38:12):
Well, that's right.
Well, yeah, yeah, yeah, nodoubt, and you keep going, I'll
put it back up, thank you.
And then quality of life, six.
It ranks six is prettyimpressive too.
So that's good.
Idaho, great state, a beautifulplace.
Affordability, though, isreally good at 11, right.
The economy rank is seven.
Education, kind of middle ofthe pack, and quality of life I

(38:36):
would argue it's a lot higherthan 24th.
But New Jersey has some reallygood education.
They have, uh, they have aneconomy rank.
That's kind of middle of thepack, but then quality of life
is pretty good.
New Jersey, by the way,underrated state.

Speaker 2 (38:45):
It really is it's because you lived there for a
brief point of your life, but itis like.

Speaker 3 (38:51):
Western New Jersey is really gorgeous.
It's a really nice place tolive Wisconsin, minnesota,
florida.

Speaker 2 (38:57):
Minnesota kind of surprised me honestly, just
because I feel like that statehas changed a lot in the last
decade.
So it does kind of surprise mea little bit that that ranked as
high as it did for best topstates to live states.

Speaker 3 (39:10):
Yeah, Well, I mean, yeah, it does fairly well.
Obviously, new Hampshire doesvery well when it comes to
economy and education.
Utah another one of thosestates New York, is not
affordable, clearly, the qualityof life rank being number one
in New York.
I don't quite understand that.
So again, if you don't believeWalletHub, I totally get it.
New Mexico's numbers, althoughwe came in, sorry, yeah, els,

(39:34):
you can go to the next one.

Speaker 4 (39:35):
We came in last but we didn't come in last.

Speaker 3 (39:37):
But I want to say this first of all, obviously,
education and healthcare werebasically dead last.
Affordability is kind of middleof the road here, and then the
economy rank is bottom third andthen quality of life rank 30th.
But I will say, you know, it'sone thing we've talked about
because we were being on theEast Coast for the past week the

(39:59):
quality of life here and thethings we have to work with.
I still maintain this state hasroom to, just to just explode,
destroy every other state.

Speaker 2 (40:10):
I really do believe that.
I mean, we're like we keep.
We talked so much about thisand I know you guys know this
that are listening at home toothat New Mexico, you cannot beat
our weather it is.
You can't beat our open spaces,our dark skies at night and how
you see the stars, if you couldbring in more business and
offer more jobs and increase oureducation and please, for the
love of God, stop drainingdoctors out of our state.

(40:33):
These are the things that, ifwe could figure out Doctors over
lawyers turns out.
Yeah, turns out.
Ask Showboat Sam about that one.
Hey, Sam.

Speaker 3 (40:39):
He'll take a stand on that one.
Oh okay, Everybody knows.
We know where he stands ondoctors versus lawyers.

Speaker 2 (40:44):
Yeah, and it ain't with doctors, it is not with
doctors.
So I just think if we couldjust get a leader that would
really put those things first.
Well, it's not even a.

Speaker 3 (40:52):
It's more than that it's.
It's a total.
It's on us, as citizens too, tobe like enough.

Speaker 2 (40:57):
I know leaders going to lead you to all that, because
you know, but they're going tomake it easier for businesses to
grow here Citizens have tostand up and demand it and
change out some of these leaders.

Speaker 3 (41:08):
I just think that one person is not going to do it.
It's going to have to beeverybody.

Speaker 2 (41:11):
I mean they need it.
They're the ones that vote onthis stuff.
I mean, I'm telling you likethis is what's maddening is that
you have this beautiful state.
You have some of the nicestpeople, yeah.

Speaker 3 (41:21):
By the way, go spend some time in DC.
You'll be running back here.
We are so much nicer than theyare.

Speaker 6 (41:26):
We are way off Literally way nicer.

Speaker 3 (41:33):
It was.
I mean literally we all as afamily.
Ella, you can chime in on this.
We would, we would all andwe'll transition into being in
DC, but honestly, we wereshocked at how, how just
horrendous people were.

Speaker 2 (41:41):
Yeah, Either they were really either angry.
I couldn't figure out.
I'm like are you angry?
Do you not like living here?
Do you?
Are you just?
Are you just like this kind ofpersonality?
That people were just rude?

Speaker 5 (41:53):
yeah like really, I definitely felt like people were
really rude.

Speaker 2 (41:56):
Like we went to this one coffee shop and mom's like
is this, uh, my drink is just,it's on the cup and, by the way,
the name was wrong and I'm likewell, that wasn't my name and I
actually told you my name butthat's okay, like no problem,
I'll take this drink Right, likeit was just, but it was servers
and people that were in Ubersand, like normally, not a single

(42:17):
Uber driver had a conversation.

Speaker 3 (42:19):
No, no, which like?

Speaker 5 (42:20):
because when we go to other Uber it's Even in New
York.
Those people were nicer.

Speaker 3 (42:25):
Oh, New York, by the way, totally underrated for how
helpful and nice people are.
Those people were super nice.
They are always nice in New.

Speaker 2 (42:30):
York In Chicago.
I went up to Chicago with Ava,the nicest people.
It is unbelievable.
It was drastically different.
Now we did move our way intoVirginia and those people were
oh well, you go to where Libertyis.
It's like the nicest peoplethat ever lived nicest people
that ever lived, I mean thenicest people on the planet?
No, they are.

Speaker 3 (42:48):
They're all like super nice.
I mean holy cow.
I was like I wish you hadn'ttotaled my car, but it's good to
see you?

Speaker 2 (42:51):
You know?
No, they were just sothoughtful.

Speaker 3 (42:53):
No, there was one time I got our rental car.

Speaker 2 (42:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (42:56):
Literally I walk in to get our rental car.
Two people behind the counterat Avis.
I walk right up to one Girl'son her phone, does not look up,
will not look up, and I kind ofwent.
I was like hey, hey.
And then the uh, the girl nextto her said you can come over to
me.
I'm like oh, I'm sorry.
I'm sorry for coming into yourliving room and trying to rent

(43:16):
this car.
Oh wait, I didn't, you're atwork, you know.
It's just like oh, my God.

Speaker 2 (43:21):
So anyway it just makes us look at car.
It's like that scene inSeinfeld when he's trying to
rent their car and then thelady's like we don't have the
car.
And he's like isn't part ofhaving a rental car that you
have the car?

Speaker 4 (43:31):
And then she goes.

Speaker 2 (43:32):
She's like I've got to go talk to my manager and
he's like, yeah, this is allphony.

Speaker 3 (43:37):
That's kind of how it was.
If I even got that much respectwhich I didn't, which is fine,
I don't care, but Like how muchwe we a miss new Mexico and then
how much we have going for us,oh so so much going for this
state, so we can just get ourducks in a row on a few other
main topics like crime,education and healthcare.

Speaker 2 (43:55):
I'm just saying just throwing those things out there,
okay, so we got to do, um, avery fun tour.
Our daughter, ava, loves DC,she loves all things, politics,
she loves all of this.
So she this was her last kindof wish of saying, hey, as a
family, can we go to DC?
I want to go to the white house.
So we put in some calls we, we.
We got two tours at the whitehouse.
We got to see both wings.

Speaker 3 (44:16):
East and West wing East and West wing.

Speaker 2 (44:18):
So the East wing is kind of your Congressman or your
state official can help you getin there.
That's some of these picturesthat you're going to see, yeah,
anybody can go walk through theswing well, you, you still have
to get tickets, babe, and youhave to, you have to get yeah
okay, but you still have to yeahokay, and then uh, so you'll
see here, okay, wait wait forthat one.

Speaker 3 (44:32):
Whoa, what?

Speaker 2 (44:33):
come on now, calm down, oh she took one of the
seal out that's the wrong wings.

Speaker 5 (44:37):
Oh my gosh.
Okay, yeah, that's the swing,though.
Yeah, that's the swing,everybody, that's all.
Yes, it is, that's it, that'sfine, okay, anyway, 30 pictures
we did take 30, which I was veryhappy about that.

Speaker 2 (44:48):
But anyway and then we got to go into the executive
office.
Office building, Officebuilding which is beautiful, by
the way.
This is JD Vance's office.

Speaker 3 (44:58):
Office in the executive office.
Yes, have you ever seen Veep?

Speaker 2 (45:00):
Like, have you ever watched Veep?
That whole office, they mimicit.
They did a pretty good job ofmimicking this whole space by
that.
Anyway, this is Ava sitting atJD Vance's desk.

Speaker 3 (45:10):
Just show her yeah, there you go.

Speaker 2 (45:11):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (45:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (45:12):
Yeah, no, it's.
Yeah, that's in.
Jd Vance does interviews here,does a bunch of stuff, so it was
cool to be able to go into hisoffice.
He left a note for us andthought that you just wanted it.
No, he didn't.
Vps have signed the drawer.

Speaker 2 (45:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (45:25):
So that was pretty cool, so you can go look and see
everybody, and I had morepictures in here for you folks.

Speaker 2 (45:28):
but Mark apparently took them all out.
But I had a picture of theactual room so you could have
seen what it looked like.
But okay, mark said no, it'stoo many pictures.

Speaker 3 (45:35):
That's too many.

Speaker 2 (45:35):
He's got to try to get his wildlife photos in there
for you, but heaven forbid.
I try to show you, folks,something that the press room
this was cool.
We don't have any pictures, bythe way.
Go back.
Hop out of that really fast,alice.
When we went into the West Wing, we had to check our phones, so
that's why we don't have anypictures of the Oval.

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Office or anything inside theWest Wing, because it's very,
very private, which isunderstandable.
But I have to say that thatOval Office, you've seen it on
TV or you've seen pictures orwhatever, but when you actually
go to see it it took itliterally took my breath away,
like I have never seen a room tothat degree that I was like I,

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I could have stared at itforever.

Speaker 3 (46:17):
It was very opulent and very, almost so vibrant.

Speaker 2 (46:21):
So vibrant?
Yeah, because Trump'sdefinitely had his own touches
in there.
He's got a lot of gold in there.

Speaker 3 (46:25):
He has a massive picture of Ronald Reagan in
there, which was pretty cool.

Speaker 2 (46:29):
Yeah, he used the rug from Ronald Reagan.
He has JFK's desk in therewhich I guess a lot of people
have used that desk but theResolute desk or Resolution desk
some of that.
Anyway, and then we got to gointo the.
This is, this is a Mark, youknow if they're getting business
done.

Speaker 4 (46:49):
Yeah, okay, yeah, he's taking care of business
Like he's like no, I'm not goingto take your question.

Speaker 2 (46:53):
And then they put me up there, and then I was like
yeah, no, no, no, no morequestions.
I'm done, and for just a secondyou were for CNN, and this is
the reaction that we get fromthe ladies, so I thought they
played along well.

Speaker 3 (47:09):
A smaller room than you think it is.

Speaker 2 (47:10):
Everything is smaller .
And, by the way, the West Wingthis is what I thought.
It felt like we were walkinginto a ship, like I thought.
I don't know in my mind.
I thought the Oval Office wasup high, it's ground floor.
It's below ground.
We went downstairs no, wedidn't.

Speaker 3 (47:26):
No, no, it's, it's.

Speaker 2 (47:28):
We can walk out right on the yeah, you're not it's,
it's right on the stairs,they're right, yeah, but it did
feel like a shit.

Speaker 3 (47:34):
Goodness gracious, you're like, just so you know
the oval office is 10 storiesdown and you gotta know it's
actually not.

Speaker 2 (47:41):
No, we did.
When you walked in, we did walkdown some stairs, we walked
around down there, but you'reright, we did walk yeah, it's
right.

Speaker 3 (47:46):
on the normal, you can walk right out onto the.

Speaker 5 (47:47):
It was the restaurant that was like that they have a
restaurant in that office that Iaccidentally walked into that I
wasn't allowed to be in there.
But it's like their own privaterestaurant and that's what was
downstairs.
That did feel like a ship.
Yes, agreed.

Speaker 3 (48:06):
And we got to look in the cabinet.

Speaker 2 (48:06):
It was, it was.
It was really funny.
And then, um, what else is itgoing to say?
I was going to say somethingabout the Oval Office, but you
guys got me all.

Speaker 3 (48:13):
Well, sorry to get you flustered there.
Well, once you took the OvalOffice and tried to sink it down
into the center of DC, we, uh,we had to call the uh, we had to
call this out.
So, and it was an honor to beable to check it out, it really
was Okay.
So, by the way, some great NewMexico artwork as well, right
off the oval, some stunningstuff.

Speaker 2 (48:35):
Right and actually in the West Wing there's pictures.
They did a whole lobby areaabout the pioneer of the Western
movement and the paintings weresupposed to be in New Mexico.

Speaker 3 (48:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (48:52):
It was beautiful.
It was really really neat.
Okay, so we're not going toshow these pictures yet of the
dorm.
I have to, I have to.
We're going to talk a littlebit about first before we show
you the pictures.
Okay so, dorm life if you are amom and you've been moving your
kid into a dorm lately orplanning for that, and
especially if you have adaughter because daughters seem
to take this to a new levelright when they want a headboard
and they want all this decorand they want the walls painted
or wallpapered or whatever, likewhen I moved in the dorm, it

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was just me and like my laundrybasket and like a hefty bag full
of my clothes and that was itright.
Things have definitely changed.
If you haven't clued into that,I have to say.
Our daughter, ava, however, isand I'm a designer, right,
that's what I like to do and Avagave me very strict things.
She's like yeah, no, I don'twant any of your decor, mom.

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No, faux plants, I can't buy areal plant or fake plant.
I couldn't buy anything Like.
She really like laid it out forme.
So, before we show you her room, I just showed.
I pulled this clip.
It's actually the last clip,els, just don't turn the volume
up.
But I want you to see this,mark, because you think I made
you do a lot at moving Ava in.

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Look at these two dads and I'lljust talk over this video as you
start to play it.
Els, these two dads have tonsof equipment okay with them
drills, hammers.
They're in this room.
If you look around theperimeter of the room.
They have hung curtains aroundthe entire room.
Okay, to hide the ugly walls ismy guess.
Now these dads are buildinglike headboards and furniture

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for these rooms.
The brothers are removingfurniture out, the dads are
replacing the furniture.
Okay, we got dad hanging uplights, like wiring chandeliers
in these rooms and putting thesethings up.
I was just so shocked when Isaw how deluxe some of these

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families go, and I have to tellyou it looks awesome.

Speaker 5 (50:45):
I have to say I don't love all the patterns, but I do
really like the idea of likeheadboards and lights.
I know.

Speaker 2 (50:51):
Okay, so now we're going to show you just.
Ava allowed us to basically dosome basics.
I was allowed to buy a rug, avacuum.
We could get her a vacuum,which was very nice.

Speaker 5 (51:02):
I bought that yeah.

Speaker 3 (51:02):
I felt good about it.

Speaker 2 (51:03):
Cleaning supplies, yep, a shower curtain we were
allowed to do that and a littlebit of bedding, and that was
basically it and even thebedding.
Oh well, even the bedding, shehad strict rules on that it had
to be mismatched.
So this is all we were allowedto do.
Those curtains, by the way, Imean, I had to Girl Scout those
things.
They were too long and so I hadto like cut them, because I
have no sewing equipment thereand you have like 20 minutes to

(51:25):
get these things up, right?

Speaker 3 (51:26):
So I have.
It is like a NASCAR stop andyou have to.
You'll put all new tires on.
Get it done, yes, and then getout, yeah.

Speaker 2 (51:33):
I had scissors and carpet tape to get those
curtains to be a somewhat of alength.
That is all we were allowed todo, ladies and gentlemen.
But here's our girl.
I'll show you a, and the one Ilove of Ava and Ella right there
.
And Ava is off into the worldand she is going to do great
things, and so she's alreadylike running and gunning at

(51:53):
school and is fired up, soanyway.
So those of you that wrote inand said nice things to Ava, we
appreciate that.
She read all of them and thatwas really thoughtful of all of
you guys.

Speaker 3 (52:03):
So thanks so much.
That was very cool, and we'repraying for every day that God
leads her where he wants her togo.

Speaker 2 (52:09):
And we're praying for all you folks out there too,
because a lot of moms and dadsout there, you're either in the
middle of this, you're gettingready to just have your kids be
a senior in high school, andthat we know that transition and
that's tough.
Or even some of you are justtaking your kids for the first
time to kindergarten, and weknow how that feels and it goes
so fast.
So slow it down slow it down asmuch as humanly possible, and we

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appreciate you guys justletting us share a little bit of
our family with you guys.
Thanks for joining us, thanksfor spending time with us.

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