Charlie Kirk Memorial Becomes Historic Revival as the World Honors Fallen Conservative Leader!
🚨 MASSIVE TURNOUT in Arizona as President Trump, JD Vance, Tulsi Gabbard and the entire cabinet honor Charlie Kirk at a 5.5-hour memorial service that became more revival than funeral. Erika Kirk's emotional forgiveness statement brought 100,000 people to their feet.
PLUS: We EXPOSE the REAL reason Jimmy Kimmel got suspended - and it has NOTHING to do with Trump or the administration. It's all about tanking ratings and angry affiliates!
00:00 Introduction and Apologies
02:32 Charlie Kirk Memorial Overview
04:21 Memorial Highlights and Speeches
10:09 Reflections on Charlie Kirk's Legacy
24:08 Jimmy Kimmel Controversy
29:34 FCC Rules and News Distortion
30:51 Ted Cruz Criticizes FCC Chairman
31:52 Jimmy Kimmel's Ratings and Free Speech
34:19 Decline of Late Night Shows
40:16 Government Shutdown Debate
43:43 Midterm Elections and Political Landscape
45:13 Sunday Game Day and Wildlife Encounters
48:12 Jumping the Shark: A TV Show's Turning Point
51:48 Conclusion and Farewell
🔥 CHARLIE KIRK MEMORIAL HIGHLIGHTS:
✅ Nearly 100,000 people attended 5.5-hour service in Arizona
✅ Entire Trump cabinet present with massive security operation
✅ EriKa Kirk named new CEO of Turning Point USA
✅ "We have had a revival" - JD Vance brings the house down
✅ President Trump calls Charlie "immortal" and "modern martyr"
💔 ERIKA'S POWERFUL FORGIVENESS:
Standing before a crowded stadium, and the world, Erika Kirk shocked attendees by publicly forgiving Tyler Robinson, Charlie's assassin. "Father, forgive them for they know not what they do" - echoing Christ's words from the cross in an emotional moment that brought the entire stadium to its feet.
📺 KIMMEL SUSPENSION TRUTH:
✅ NOT caused by Trump or the administration
✅ Network affiliates demanded action after ratings cratered
✅ Lost 75% of audience since 2010 - down to 160K viewers
✅ Nexstar and Sinclair ownership groups pushed back hard
✅ FCC Chair Brendan Carr overstepped - even Ted Cruz criticized him
📊 MEDIA RATINGS DISASTER:
Local news has lost 50-77% of viewership while late night shows hemorrhage three-quarters of their audiences. Jimmy Kimmel's $16 million salary no longer justified when affiliates revolt over his partisan attacks on half the country.
What impressed you more - the massive turnout for Charlie or Erica's incredible strength in forgiveness?
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
All right, we are back a little late with this
episode.
Sorry about that Late.
On a Sunday night I had aflight in late this afternoon
and was coming in from Liberty.
Yeah, I see, I got more gear.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Yeah, you sure did.
I did Leave it to Mark to likeanywhere he goes.
He's like let's go get gear.
Yeah, yeah, well, I mean, I youknow did.
I did Leave it to Mark to likeanywhere he goes.
He's like let's go get gear.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Yeah Well, I mean, you know, even I went to the
bookstore, and so I was outthere with her.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Did you get anything for Ella?
Speaker 1 (00:32):
and I so.
Anyway, you know it was reallycrowded in there and you guys
are so picky.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Oh yeah, that's what it is.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
You are you?
Speaker 1 (00:41):
are Ella.
Either way you are, you areElla, you can I, I.
There are a million things Ithink Ella would like, and then
all of a sudden she's like no, Idon't want any of that, and so.
I'm not true.
Last time I was in Liberty,there was one hoodie that I
really wanted and we looked atthe price tag and it was a
hundred dollars from a college.
It is amazing, I my friend,vince Torres, who who went to
Liberty.
Uh, he said, hey, you mindpicking me up a hoodie.
(01:02):
I said, yeah, absolutely.
So we go into the bookstore andI take some pictures and shoot
them to Vince.
And he picked the one that was$150.
It wasn't $150, but it was.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Vince, you're the reason I'm not getting a hoodie,
because you're getting a hoodieguys, so you're welcome, you're
welcome.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Vince will pay for his own hoodie.
He can handle it, but it was.
I am kind of a little sheepishabout handing it to him because
it's a thin hoodie.
It's really cool, it's a Nikehoodie.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Yeah, you know, but it's oh, you paid for the Nike
is what you paid for, yeah, Iguess.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
So, yeah, you did, because I got like the Champion
one I've got here, which I love.
This is is what I'm going totell you.
So, vince, I'm just kind oflaying that out for you right
now, so you know, so I don'thave to break the news to you
when I ask you, for it won't betriple digits, but it uh it was
expensive.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
It was expensive.
We can probably give it toVince.
We can probably.
We can probably help him out.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
I'm assuming.
So Well, you know, I he'll loveit.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
I'll give him part of my donation for the lack of
gear.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Yeah, no, gear.
Yeah no, ava.
And I found your christmaspresent.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
We did okay, my christmas present's not going to
be liberty year.
We'll see what happens uh.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
So my god.
Well, not for me, do we need tohave this conversation, no we
don't, we don't not right now,not right now scouting.
Don't, don't let mom, we willhave the gift guide.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Uh coordination episode, maybe like october or
november, yeah, to show husbandswhat might be appropriate as a
Christmas gift.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Absolutely Okay.
So, all having that having allbeen said, uh sorry, just flew
in a few minutes ago, so I amfried, so I will, we will move
this along, but but wedefinitely wanted to to do a
show to talk about what's goneon with.
Uh, obviously, the the CharlieKirk Memorial was today on.
Sunday and some amazing stuffthere.
We'll go through some of thatand talk about that, and,
christy, you can lead us throughthat and then we're going to
talk about this Kimmel stuff alittle bit too.
There are a lot ofmisconceptions out there.
Speaker 6 (02:51):
Right On the Jimmy Kimmel thing.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Yes, trump kicked Kimmel off the air.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
The administration is killing free speech.
I'm like wait, what are youbelieving?
Now let's talk about that.
I think it's important.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Absolutely, and we gave you know a last episode or
two episodes ago.
We talked about the dwindlinglocal news numbers, and the
local ratings in general arecollapsing, okay, and we're
going to tie that in a littlebit to what's happened with
Kimmel Cause I do think itmatters, so we have a some
information on that as well.
We're going to talk about thepossibility of a government
shutdown.
It's a possibility here comingup at the beginning of October
and that could happen, and whyit would be much worse for one
(03:27):
side than the other in the waythis whole thing breaks down.
Then we're going to just take aquick look at the congressional
ballot.
What's going on with thatcoming into next year?
If you just ask somebody today,you're going to vote for the
Democrat, you're going to votefor the Republican.
What are they saying?
It's interesting.
Some of the numbers areinteresting.
We got game day, all right,sunday game day.
We have an unidentified animal.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Oh, I can't tell what it is.
Well, our viewers can write inand say what they think it is.
Well, yeah, the problem is theanimal does not Chuba cabra,
chuba cabra, it does not appearon the actual camera.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
So, yeah, some vandalism happened to the camera
and it was some sort of animal,I just don't know which one.
And then we're going to endwith a legendary moment in
television history that has ledto a saying that I know you all
have heard, but I don't know ifyou know where it comes from,
but we have the clip.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Okay, perfect, Okay, well, let's dive in because
obviously this was quite a day.
We had friends who went to theCharlie Cook Memorial out in
Arizona and it wrapped.
It started at 11 pm their localtime 11 am 11 am.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
It started their local time 11 pm.
Oh sorry, 11 am 11 am thismorning this morning.
Yes, right on Sunday morning.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
And it lasted five and a half hours.
Okay, the actual memorial wasfive and a half hours.
It was packed and so I wantedto show you.
This is some video.
We got early today for some ofour friends that are out there.
Thousands, they believe a closeto a hundred thousand people
showed up.
The auditorium holds a littleover six, a little under 64,000
(05:00):
people, and then they had anoverflow auditorium.
So our friends some of ourfriends arrived as early as 3.30
this morning, waited four hoursto get in and they said they
were like 10,000 people werebefore them and they thought
they would be an early bird.
So, anyway, quite a turnout.
I would say High security too.
I don't have them in here, butthey said they saw snipers all
(05:20):
over the buildings out there andstuff which obviously anybody
that saw any of the speaking.
Today.
They had about an hour and ahalf of live worship that
started.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Oh, is that what this picture is?
Yeah, this is some live worship.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
I wanted to kind of get the idea, Absolutely yeah.
These are pictures that weresent to us by some viewers of
our show and some friends ofours that kind of showed a
little bit of definitely aworship-type feel, a religious
aspect.
Little bit of like definitely aworship type feel, right, a
religious aspect.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Very, you know, well done good and faithful servant,
obviously written on this.
Charlie Kirk, this program,yeah.
And if you spend time inespecially more Protestant
leaning churches this is astatement that is regularly
offered up by the pastor, whichis really cool.
That's that thought that if you, when you get to heaven and
Jesus comes up to you and says,well done, good and faithful
servant, like that's theultimate compliment and you
(06:11):
lived a life with Christ as thecenter of that life and there's
no question, you can saywhatever you want about Charlie
Kirk.
He had very strong faith.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
No doubt about that Right.
And you see these signs thatpeople were holding that said
never surrender.
We also put that in there aswell.
And then you know just some.
Really, I mean the entirecabinet, from my understanding,
or close to the entire cabinetpresidential cabinet was there
today.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
There must be a designated survivor back in DC.
Well, we did, but that would beit.
I mean, honestly, we weretalking about the security level
.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
How do you get this much security and how much do
you organize all this?
I can't imagine having that bigof a crowd, and then basically
everybody in the powerhouse andthe administration was there
today.
So they did all speak behindbulletproof glass, which is
unusual indoors is what I readabout today but they were all
behind this bulletproof glass.
So we pulled a couple of clipsfrom this that we thought were
(07:02):
impactful that we wanted toshare with you guys today.
The first one came from TulsiGabbard and she was just
speaking from the heart aboutCharlie, so we'll play this one.
Speaker 5 (07:10):
For those of us who knew Charlie, and even those of
you who may never have had thechance to meet him in person, we
all know and experienced howCharlie spoke with a calm
courage, not asking what willGod do for me, but instead
praying God, use me for yourwill.
He showed respect andcompassion for everyone, even
(07:35):
those who opposed him, and Ithink, especially for those who
opposed him.
He invited them to his table oron his show, saying let's talk.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Yeah, I thought that was just profound just very kind
.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
Yeah, it is, and I think what is interesting and
what you hear throughout of whatmost people talk about here, it
was half tribute and halfservice or revival.
Revival is a word everybodyjust keeps bringing up, which is
true if you listen to a lot ofwhat he says.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Right.
Well, speaking of that, let'sgo into JD Vance, because he
kind of brought the fire and hedefinitely talked about how this
is not just a funeral, or noteven primarily a funeral.
It is more about something thatCharlie Kirk was hoping to see
across America, which is arevival.
Speaker 4 (08:17):
You know, I can't help but think that they tried
to silence my friend CharlieKirk.
They tried to silence our dearfriend Charlie Kirk and today,
tonight, we speak with Charlieand for Charlie, louder than
ever.
The evil murderer who tookCharlie from us expected us to
(08:52):
have a funeral today and instead, my friends, we have had a
revival in celebration ofCharlie Kirk and of his Lord
Jesus Christ.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
So I thought, yeah, he definitely got the biggest
applause.
I think initially he kind ofbrought in some fire into that
auditorium today, from what Icould see, and then were you
going to say something.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
Well, I just think there, I know I have this
quizzative look on my face andyou're like should I?
Speaker 2 (09:18):
go to this guy.
Does he know what he's doing?
I wasn't sure.
I was like do you want to jumpin please?
Speaker 1 (09:23):
I completely understand, sure?
I was like don't we understand?
Jump in please.
I, I completely understand.
Uh, I what?
What struck me in that moment,just as I saw him because I
haven't seen that sound bitethat you just put in um, what
struck me in that moment ischarlie kirk and jd vancer, of
this cloth of incrediblyeffective messengers, and they,
they remind me of each other alittle bit in different ways.
(09:45):
They have differentcommunication styles, actually
they're quite different, butthey're both hyper-competent and
when you listen to them yousometimes draw the same thing
out of them, where you're like,if they're saying this, I need
to at least investigate it andgive it some real thought,
because I respect the horsepowerof the intellectual argument
(10:05):
and I just think so.
He just kind of struck me inthat way.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
Yeah.
I don't know, I don't know why,but Well, I and I think you know
again, like and I've said this,I said this to some of my
students, I've said this topeople I've been talking to this
past week about Charlie Kirkwhether or not you liked Charlie
Kirk or not, or you agree withhim or disagree with him, the
one thing that's very clear isthat he was a very good
communicator, and so when peopleare out there basically
(10:30):
trash-talking him about how hestirred up violence and stirred
up hate and stirred up all thisstuff, I'm like he didn't do
that.
He actually was one of the fewpeople I've seen that can stay
pretty calm in a situation andcan invite people down to have
like, let me hear your side andthen I'll debate you on that.
And so I just think that'ssomething that I hope that
people really start to actuallyinvestigate and like look at
(10:50):
clips from him and watch what hedid, because if they didn't, I
think you're just listening tothe noise that's out there
repeating what you think he wasabout, when, honestly, like, you
can't really find those clipsto support that thought.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
Yeah, and also I think, and one of the things I
talked to Ava about this weekendwas the work that goes into
being that good at something.
By the way, he's just not thatgood at something.
You don't just walk in and dowhat he did, right, you just
don't.
It takes a tremendous amount ofwork and it also takes staff to
help you distill down somethings.
Now, his recall is tremendous,right, I distill down some
(11:30):
things.
Now, his recall is tremendous,right, I've said that before.
It's unbelievable.
But the kind of work that ittakes to be that kind of
messenger, it really issomething that is significant,
so it really is unbelievable,and when you watch it, so it's
just sorry.
One more quick clip here beforewe well, we have a couple.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
So, we've got Trump, who came in and spoke as well.
He was there for the entirething and he was actually
sitting with Elon for part of it, which was kind of part of the
like people were like, oh, andthey're shaking hands.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
So I was like are they making up A little bit of a
bridge being built here?
Yeah, is there a bridge beingbuilt?
Speaker 2 (11:51):
But that's not what he's obviously speaking about.
So just a quick clip fromDonald Trump on Charlie Kirk as
well.
Speaker 6 (12:05):
Charles James Kirk was was heinously murdered by a
radicalized, cold-bloodedmonster for speaking the truth
that was in his heart.
He was violently killed becausehe spoke for freedom and
justice, for God and country,for reason and for common sense.
He was assassinated because helived bravely.
He lived bravely, he livedboldly and he argued brilliantly
(12:28):
.
Without apology, he did whatwas right for our nation.
And so on that terrible day,september 10th 2025, our
greatest evangelist for Americanliberty became immortal.
He's a martyr now for Americanfreedom.
(12:51):
I know I speak for everyonehere today when I say that none
of us will ever forget CharlieKirk, and neither now will
history.
Ok, can I?
Speaker 2 (13:04):
ask you something about that, and neither now will
history Okay, can I?
Speaker 1 (13:06):
ask you something about that.
Yeah, so you've got to wonderwhat Trump thinks.
I mean his heart of hearts andTrump won't probably open up in
a huge way, and maybe Trumpdoesn't.
I don't know.
I've not met him and a lot ofpeople talk about when you talk
to Trump one-on-one it'sdifferent, or whatever but I
wonder what his real thoughts onall this are, because he came
(13:29):
so close to dying.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Right.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
I mean, it was literally a quarter of an inch
and he would have been dead.
And for Charlie it was.
You know it was.
It was that close and then thatwas it.
So if you're Trump, what goesthrough your mind as you're
giving that speech?
Going?
He is a martyr for a cause thatI share with him and I became.
(13:51):
I was within a quarter inch ofbeing the same martyr.
I don't know how you processthat in a way that makes sense
and that it doesn't kind ofalways sort of haunt you in a
weird way, or does it drive you,does it make you think, oh no,
I'm not going to let you guysstop me from.
You know, and God has me herefor a reason.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Well, I do think it's interesting that he showed up.
He attended the actual memorialservice instead of sending in a
video or something to thatdegree.
I think that kind of speaks toyou know him wanting to somehow
not only honor him but to carryon the torch.
So I think that that'sdefinitely important.
But what was interesting wasErica, his wife, erica Kirk.
She was named this past weekthe new CEO of Turning Point.
(14:35):
She got up and gave quite aspeech.
I pulled one clip from herbecause I think this will be the
clip that people will rememberthe most.
I think she's an impactfulspeaker herself.
However, I just think that wasreally interesting that you have
Trump which not surprising, butTrump's going to be like a
monster killed him.
Da, da, da da.
And then you have Erica comingout and saying okay, I you know,
(14:59):
as a Christian, as what I amcalled to do is to forgive, and
I think let me play the clip andthen we can discuss it.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (15:06):
Young man on the cross.
Our savior said father, forgivethem, for they not know what
they do.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
That man, that young man, I forgive him Gets a
standing ovation, they pan outhere and they show.
(15:44):
You know, the entire auditoriumstands up for her.
This was just one part of herspeech, obviously, right, I do
think this is what you're goingto see.
The most talked about of herspeech is this.
You know it's interesting.
I, you know, as a Christian,obviously we're called to
forgive, we're told, actually,that you know, when you forgive
(16:05):
others, it actually releases theburden off of yourself.
So, you know, make sure thatyou release that as quickly as
possible, right, it's kind ofwhat we were.
I've been taught that since,like Sunday school days when I
was a small child.
I just think it'd beinteresting if the if you know,
if something had happened to sayyou right, right, I'm not sure
(16:27):
I would be the person if I'mbeing honest that could get up
there in front of all thosepeople and that would be what I
would have in your memorial.
I'm not sure I'd put it in thememorial.
I think it speaks to hercharacter that she can do that.
I think she knows right now sheis leading the way and I know
that we don't necessarilyforgive people.
We don't necessarily wait forpeople to ask for forgiveness
before we forgive them Right.
But it does seem like thisperson who you know Tyler
(16:52):
Robinson hasn't even begun to,he's not even cooperating with
police at this point.
So to me I'm like there hesenses no sense of
accountability, like the realmeasure of accountability, and
so I kind of am like I don don'tknow.
I'm a little torn on that.
I mean, obviously it's it's herdesire to forgive him.
She feels, like Charlie said,this is what I should do, and so
you know, god bless her forbeing able to be that strong and
(17:14):
be able to do that.
I think I'm a little bit morejustice oriented, which is not
necessarily like I'm not sayingthat's the right way.
I'm just saying I'm beinghonest that I have a little bit
more justice in me, that I wantsome justice served, and I know
that has nothing to do withforgiveness.
I'm sure people are going towrite in and be like oh Christie
, forgiveness has nothing to dowith actual justice and there's
a, there's godly justice andthen there's earthly justice and
they're two different things.
(17:35):
So I understand all that.
I'm just saying I'm speaking asa woman how I would really
respond if you were taken toosoon in a violent way that I'm.
I just don't know.
I don't know if I would be ableto say that on that fast.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
Well, I think it's interesting because she seems to
say in some of her comments andsome of what I've seen of her,
it's that Charlie, I think.
I think she realizes that, andthey probably discussed it
together that this is not acompletely unexpected outcome,
as sad as that is.
And Charlie knew what he wasdoing, and not that he wanted to
(18:12):
die by any stretch or anythinglike that.
But he knew when he spoke,especially as forwardly as he
did a lot about his faith andthings like that, those things
started to accelerate.
The threats on him acceleratedwith the expansion of him diving
in more to speak openly abouthis faith, and I think he was
okay with that, just like Iwould be too, where it's like
(18:32):
hey, if I'm going to die atsomeone else's hand, if I'm
speaking about God, that's arisk I'm willing to take.
Right, you are for your faith.
Now, do you want it to happen?
Absolutely not.
But I agree with you, I couldnot do what she's doing right
there.
I could not do it.
(19:02):
Especially does not understandwhat has happened here or is
unwilling to acceptresponsibility or open his heart
for forgiveness.
I don't think I'd give it tohim.
I just wouldn't waste my timewith him.
I would not consider him in anyway, shape or form.
He's not worth considerationuntil he comes and says I would
(19:26):
like forgiveness and maybethat's just short-sighted on my
part.
But if he came and said I seekyour forgiveness, then I think
we have an obligation to try todo that.
I'm not saying I could do it,but you got to try.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
Right and agreed.
I totally understand why sheput that out there.
She knew the spotlight was onher today and that their message
of keeping this veryChrist-centered she was trying
to do.
I believe, she's trying to doeverything she can to point back
to.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
God, that's right.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
And I think that that's very commendable and
amazing.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
And I think.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
I just think that I'm probably just a little bit more
I don't know prideful.
Maybe I mean it could bewrapped up in pride.
For sure I'm not saying I'm not, I'm just saying it.
It it takes a while for me toprocess things and I think I you
know there's things that justit takes me a while and I've
even been able to say listen, Iforgive that person, but I don't
(20:24):
want to talk about it, or Idon't want to look at that
person or have anything to dowith that person, and sometimes
that's even taken me a littlebit to get there.
So not that I hold grudges, I'mnot saying that, but I just
think this is a level that I'mnot sure I mean.
Again, this is a very publicmemorial.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
Well, it's also a level of the fact that she's got
to step in for him Like this isa whole big structure too Right
, and there's no way she canpossibly fill his shoes because
she's going to do things and she, I guarantee you, she, has
skills that Charlie doesn't, andCharlie has skills that she
doesn't.
I was like, if you and I tradedplaces in, whatever we were
(21:02):
doing, there are certain thingsyou would do better than I did
them Right, and there arecertain things quite a few that
maybe I could do that you mighthave trouble with.
I'm totally kidding, but youknow what I mean.
Like you're much more likeyou're a better organizational
administrator than I am by far,it's called gifts of
administration.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
Yeah, no, it's unreal .
No, believe me.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
Like if we had turning point, all of a sudden
that thing would be locked downand you'd be running and I'd be
gone and everybody would be like, thank goodness you're here,
it's running somewhat smoother.
But then there are other things, but again you can't be Charlie
, and so my guess is CharlieKirk will be filled by in his
role in society, which is whatyou would expect to be filled by
a hundred other people in ahundred different, smaller ways.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
Well and honestly, I think that the legacy of Turning
Point, or the legacy that whatI think would be fascinating is
this stirring up of today'syouth and the younger generation
.
I've read there's thousands ofnow high school students that
are applying to bring theseTurning Point chapters into
their high school.
That's the legacy.
Right, that was his end game,that was his hope.
(22:05):
So, I think, keeping motivationbehind this, keeping it, you
know, not burning up and blowingup bridges and blowing up and
ripping down statues and doingall the crazy things that
sometimes people have done inthe past when they've disagreed
with something that's happened,a violent offense I think what's
really great about this is yousee people coming together in
prayer and in worship and insaying, hey, listen, this is
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what he did.
Well, he debated well, he hadthe conversation, he welcomed
the opposing side in.
So when people call him afascist, it drives me crazy.
I'm like a fascist is the onethat doesn't want you to speak.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Yeah, the fascist uses the gun.
Just so you know, Right, justso we're all clear on that.
But anyway, okay.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
So anyway, a touching no, it is five and a half hour
memorial but again just so youknow if, should you pass before
me, there will not be a five anda half hour memorial nor would
there be enough people there tobe like what are we still doing
here?
Speaker 1 (22:55):
I mean, we talked about the guy for seven, eight
minutes.
Can we move on?
Because that's how, about how?
Speaker 5 (23:00):
long it'd be for me jokes.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
Yeah, we would you know, I don't know wrap it up.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
Go get something to eat, go down and get the crepe
paper and balloons out, let'sget some casseroles, let's get
this thing going.
So I'll tell you.
I think that, but it is atribute to Erica and to many
people who followed Charlie Kirkthat what happened out there
today oh, absolutely, and thefact that you had such a
political sphere of influencethere.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
Rubio, we didn't even talk about him.
Rubio was there.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
Yeah, but just the way they spoke, and it was God
first.
And that's so important,because if you're going to get
in the middle of that world, andespecially the political world,
whether you're out campaigningor pushing for a cause, like
Kirk was, or if you're acandidate or you're in elective
office leading with God, I thinkit is such a centering thing to
(23:52):
do and it is such a positivething to do.
I just don't think you getanywhere near this sort of
positivity without a Lord andCreator watching over you as you
do it.
I just don't think it canhappen.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
It keeps you focused, keeps you the whole point of it
right.
Keeps you centered.
Okay, we got to dive into thisuh, jimmy Kimmel uh situation
because I think what I foundfrustrating this week was how
much, um, like literally I hatethe word misinformation, but
just misunderstanding, right Ofwhat actually happened.
Who's responsible for Kimmel'sshow getting suspended?
(24:28):
Because, again, he hasn't beenfired, he hasn't been let go,
the show hasn't been canceled,he's been suspended.
He's been asked to give apublic apology.
Apparently, as of the time thatwe're filming this, he's
declined to do that.
But let's review really quicklyabout what he originally said
that aired in some markets andothers it did not air.
(24:49):
So we'll play this clip reallyquickly and then we can kind of
dive into what actually happenedand what the outcome is now.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
We had some new lows over the weekend, with the MAGA
gang desperately trying tocharacterize this kid who
murdered Charlie Kirk asanything other than one of them
and doing everything they can toscore political points from it.
In between the finger pointing,there was a grieving.
On Friday, the white house flewthe flags at half staff, which
got some criticism.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
Okay, so, um, ella, you heard this comment and you
thought it was like it was alittle.
There was some overreactionpotentially.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
Um, I saw a different clip where he played the video
of Trump.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
Oh, and Trump turned in and started talking about the
construction.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
And started talking about the construction and I
feel like it was a really bigoverreaction to take Jimmy.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
Kimmel off the air for that reason.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
And that's what I was told as he was taken off the
air Right.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
So what he was taken off the air for was what you
just heard.
Okay, right, so this.
So what he was taken off theair for was what you just heard.
Ok, not, not the fact that hementioned Trump, who then
immediately pivoted to like, hey, we're building some, this big
beautiful thing.
Ok, agreed, but but what?
But?
What he got taken off the airfor was a couple of things.
This is a much deeper story.
But what he effectively gottaken off the air for was saying
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number one he lied right there.
But what he effectively gottaken off the air for was saying
number one he lied right there.
He said that.
Basically, what he said wasthat MAGA is trying to point
this to say that this guy is anyanything but with them.
Ok, he knows that's not true.
He knows that this kid hadnothing to do with, you know,
make America great again, oranything.
He knows that he just he saidsomething that was a lie.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
That was a lie and specifically designed to deceive
and let's back that up reallyquickly.
The reason that he we know thathe knew that, that he had all
that information is because he'sgone on several times on his
show and said he has factcheckers.
He is very factual and he islike drilled people in the past
that have said things about himthat are not true.
He has drilled people likeAaron Rodgers, for example,
other people.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
Right, right, but.
But then he also this is these.
But these were things that werejust simple facts at the moment
it was very.
I mean, everybody knew on Mondayeverybody knew on Monday who
this person was, why they did it, and Jimmy Kimmel knew that.
So Jimmy lied specifically forthat reason.
So that was, that was a bigpart of this.
And so therefore, um, then whatyou ended up seeing was that
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his own network took him off theair because they got a ton of
pushback.
They got a ton of pushback fromtwo different sources.
One would be affiliates thatcarry their stuff.
Okay, in other words, the way itworks is the way the affiliates
work, and, for example, in NewMexico, the ABC affiliate is
KOAT.
Koat has to put on Jimmy Kimmelfor the most part.
(27:32):
Okay, now they can push back tosome degree, but what happens
is that, basically, koat has awritten agreement with ABC which
says we carry X amount of yourprograms and they split revenue
and do things like that, and sothey have to pay the network and
all different sorts of thingslike that.
They have a businessarrangement right.
So, in other words, cbs doesn'tput stuff on KOAT, abc only
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puts stuff on KOAT becausethat's the deal that they have.
And so what happens is thesebig ownership groups stood up
mainly Nexstar and Sinclair andsaid enough, enough of this,
okay, and the reason they didthat and we'll get into the
reason they did it in a littlebit.
But but if you're Sinclair andyou're Nexstar and you have a, a
political activist, that goeson every night and basically
(28:19):
tells half the country to poundsand, and your numbers have just
cratered during this time,you're still paying top dollar
for this guy.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
Yeah, he's $16 million a year.
By the way, is his contractOkay?
Speaker 1 (28:30):
you're paying him $16 million.
You're part of that comes fromall the ABC affiliates.
All that money generated comesback in Advertisers.
Advertisers and everything else.
Now in the biggest markets LA,new York, chicago those are what
you call O and O's owned andoperated.
That means that ABC the maincompany they own, abc Chicago,
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abc LA, ABC New York but it'sthe rest of the country that
that that companies like Nextarand Tegna and and Sinclair would
own.
So so then they would come tohim and go what are you doing?
And again, it's the rest of thecountry that tends to get the
most up in arms over some ofthis stuff and get kind of upset
about it.
So that's as you look at partof this issue.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
but then there's another issue.
Well, I think we have toclarify, too, that all the
chatter that I've been hearingabout is Trump or the
administration is the reasonthat Kimmel got pulled.
That is actually not true.
So now let's clarify what istrue.
Okay, so the FCC could havebeen involved?
(29:33):
Right, they could have beeninvolved.
There's actually something Ilooked this up there's something
called news distortion andhoaxes.
Right, this is part of the FCCrules.
That's in the game.
Right, that you can, they haveauthority over.
And again, keep in mind, thisis just the broadcast stations
that you get for free in yourhome, not cable, not streaming,
those kind of things, just yoursimple everyday news outlets.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
Over the air, over the air.
It's the people's airwaves.
That's what we're talking about, but would you put up an
antenna?
Right, you can get it.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
That's who the FCC can file complaints when they
feel like something isn'tfactual, right when it says
while the FCC doesn't regulatethe general accuracy of news, it
can act on complaints aboutdeliberate news distortion or
hoaxes causing substantialpublic harm.
That I believe of the wherepeople are saying that the FCC
got all worked up.
Now what the FCC did was thechairman right.
(30:31):
The chairman did a podcast andbasically kind of put an open
threat out there against ABCright Now me and Mark personally
don't agree that we don't thinkthat was a good move, right.
No, you didn't need to do it hedidn't need to do it right, like
we think that was a bad call.
Another person and we'll comeback to this again in a minute,
but but while we're staying onthat, another person who did not
(30:52):
agree with the chairman oflines from the story that came
out this past week, senator TedCruz, a Republican from Texas,
blasted Federal CommunicationsCommission Chair Brendan Carr on
(31:14):
Friday for threats he made thisweek related to Jimmy Kimmel's
show, calling the Trumpadministration officials'
actions dangerous as hell.
I think it's unbelievablydangerous for government to put
itself in the position of sayingwe're going to decide what
speech we like and what we don'tand we're going to threaten to
take you off the air if we don'tlike what you're saying.
Cruz said on his podcast.
So basically that was kind ofthe gist of Ted Cruz and again,
(31:40):
we agree with that.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
Yeah it was not smart .
Speaker 2 (31:42):
It wasn't smart, but here's the deal.
The FCC didn't actually fileany complaint.
Ok, so that did not actuallyhappen.
This boils down to a couple ofvery simple things.
Jimmy Kimmel's ratings were inthe toilet.
They were basically ABC wasjust giving money and they were
lighting it on fire at the endof the day, very similar to what
we talked about with StephenColbert's show.
(32:03):
Right, I think they're losing$40 million.
That's why he got let go $40million a year, so turning this
into some sort of free speechthing, which is also, I have to
point out very quickly that thefirst amendment just for some
education.
The first amendment is there toprotect you, um, if the
government has, so thegovernment doesn't have a say
over your free speech.
It doesn't apply to corporateAmerica.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
Right.
In other words, you don't getthrown in jail for speech, but
you can lose your job for speech.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
Correct.
So a company, a corporation,can say listen, I don't like
what you tweeted, roseanne Barr,and they can fire you, right.
They have the right to do thatif they want to right.
They also have the right tofire you if your ratings are bad
and let you go.
Right that they have thatfreedom.
I just think what's maddeningabout this is once again trying
(32:51):
to place this all onto Trump andthe administration of Trump.
Trump, I'm sorry.
He definitely shoots his mouthoff.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
He shoots his mouth off.
Well, no, brennan, carr blew it.
It's Carr who blew it.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
Well, Carr blew it.
But I'll just say Trump is abit of a blowhard sometimes on
social media.
Speaker 3 (33:04):
Okay, is a bit of a blowhard sometimes on social
media okay.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
People think that because he put it on social
media, then that must be whathappened, right.
So again, if I was Trump's PRperson, I might have a thing or
two to say to him.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
You would have been fired long ago.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
I'm sure he would not have listened to me, but I just
want to clarify that this isnot something that was caused by
the administration or Trumphimself.
This is not a freedom of speechsituation.
Freedom, this is not a freedomof speech situation.
Freedom of speech does notapply to corporate America, and
so I just I think this is mindblowing, and plenty of people,
plenty of people have beensilenced on public platforms for
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for actual freedom and that'sfreedom of speech.
Things like doctors duringcovid shutdowns that wanted to
talk about that and wanted totalk about the vaccines.
They were removed fromplatforms.
I mean, that's a freedom ofspeech issue that you'd want to
maybe concern yourself with.
Jimmy Kimmel's not beingarrested.
He can still go on any platformhe wants to.
He can still say whatever hewants to say.
(33:59):
He has the freedom of being anAmerican citizen to say what he
wants to say.
It just doesn't mean that youget to keep your job necessarily
, as opposed to being a comedian, you're not entitled to a
national television show.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
There's no doubt about that, all right.
So I want to do a little divehere, dovetailing off your point
, because there's another pieceof this.
Okay, and that is the number.
So, ella, let's go to clip 14.
These are the numbers for thepast 15 years for the late night
shows.
Okay, so you have Jimmy Kimmel,you have the late show and you
have the tonight show.
Okay, so now we know that atleast the two on the left are in
(34:31):
dubious territory.
The late show has already beencanceled and it's it's going to
come off the air next year.
The tonight show is still going, and then Jimmy Kimmel.
But if you look at thosenumbers, from, say, 2010 to 2025
, they've hemorrhaged threequarters of their viewers.
Okay, so roughly now, in thatdemo of 18 to 49, which is the
(34:51):
coveted demo, you're talkingabout most of these guys being
around a hundred thousandviewers.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
Yeah, most podcasts, most popular podcasts, get more
viewers and listeners than theseguys get on television now,
just to like paint a picture forpeople.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
Right, right, and so that's unbelievable.
First and foremost, let's gospecifically into Kimmel though.
Uh, just go into the blue thereon the on the left.
Else on that same graph, gointo his.
Okay.
So he at one time was pullinglike a 0.71, which would have
been he'd be, yeah, it wouldhave been gosh 700,000 viewers,
(35:24):
roughly, Okay.
And then now he's down to160,000, something in there.
Okay, that's roughly what hewas looking at or what he's
looking at now.
So he's hemorrhaged anunbelievable amount of his
viewers.
So and we talked about thisgraph a couple shows ago and I
want to show you this as welland I'll make a point and I'll
explain why this is these arethe three different day parts
(35:46):
for television local news inAlbuquerque, okay, and how much
of their audience they have lost, okay.
So, so what you look at here is, in each three networks, what
you have here in the threedifferent day parts, they show
you how much of their audiencethey've lost.
So, in the morning, roughly, uh, krqe has lost 77% of their
(36:06):
audience, 49% is gone from KOATand 31% is gone from KOB.
Then you go to the eveningnewscast five or six o'clock and
then 10 o'clock, okay, but yousee across the board, at least
half of their audience has gone.
If not more, it's really morein most cases.
Okay, so, so that gets us toanother point.
If you own these stations, youown these individual stations
(36:27):
your, your numbers are alreadycratering.
Okay, they're already crateringbecause people are getting
their news from other places.
It's not even necessarilysomething that you're directly
doing all the time, but if youhave somebody, especially in the
evenings, to wrap up your dayor your late night two out of
the three networks and I don'tinclude Fallon in this because I
don't think he does it as muchtwo out of the three networks
and I don't include Fallon inthis, because I don't think he
(36:49):
does it as much.
But you have Jimmy Kimmel andyou have Stephen Colbert, who
deliberately take at least halfthe country and say stick it, I
don't want you watching me.
You already have a collapsingaudience model and then you take
half of the people in thecountry and tell them you hate
them because he does.
Jimmy Kimmel says it all thetime.
He hates half the country.
He says it.
Okay.
(37:09):
So if you own those operations,if you own ABC or if you own
ABC affiliates, the last thingyou want is this clown
continuing to show up anddestroy your brand.
Because if you watch KOAT andthen you see Jimmy Kimmel, come
on, you think that DougFernandez and Shelly Robondo are
sitting there with Jimmy Kimmelsaying, yeah, that's right,
(37:29):
maga sucks man, it's terriblefor your brand.
It'd be the same thing for KRQE.
It would be like StephenColbert sitting there and Dean
and Jessica like, oh my gosh, wehate half the state.
Whatever, right, it's terrible.
It's terrible for your brand,it's an awful idea.
It's the same reason I thinkCNN and MSNBC are stupid to just
(37:51):
slide all the way to the left.
Why?
Because you're splitting thataudience with 10,000 other
people, including Kimball andColbert.
You've got all these people onthe left who just are willing to
just cleave off half theaudience.
It's craziness.
So if you own these networks, ifyou're Perry Sook and you own
(38:12):
Nexstar, you're like I'm sick ofthis guy.
I'm sick of this guy doing this.
It's not that you're some bigRepublican, it's that you're
like I want somebody who's goingto tell the whole country come
watch me and come watch ourproducts.
I don't care what politicalparty you're from, and if I
hammer your political party, Ipromise I'm going to hammer the
other side too.
Right.
So political party, I promiseI'm going to hammer the other
side too, right.
So Kimmel has driven himself toa tiny sliver of audience, and
then he thinks he's entitled tocontinue to lie about that
(38:34):
audience ad nauseum and heshouldn't be accountable for it.
And so, therefore, I think whathappened here is ABC took the
opportunity to take a guy whosenumbers have cratered and they
knew he was making theiraffiliates mad, and they said we
got to back this down, and Ithink they're going to get rid
of them eventually because he'sjust not worth any money.
He's not worth it all.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
But understand he's costing them money at this point
.
Speaker 1 (38:56):
Right.
And there's one other piece ofthis and this has to be
mentioned and it's only fairNexstar is trying to buy Tegna,
which is another big ownershipgroup that has to go through the
FCC.
So if you're an X star, thelast thing you want is to go
crossways with the Trumpadministration because you need
approval to own extra stations.
Basically, the FCC has to saywe're going to take our rule and
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we're going to amend it for youand allow you to own extra
stations.
So that's all happening underall of this.
So more than one thing is trueat once.
Right, Brandon Carr shouldn'thave said what he said.
Jimmy Kimmel shouldn't have cutoff half his audience, but he
did, and his ratings are tankinganyway because of normal models
and you also have an approval.
(39:39):
That also has to happen.
All of that is part of thereason.
But one thing that is not partof the reason is Donald Trump
didn't just go and Bigfoot himand get rid of him.
But Ted Cruz is right.
Brandon Carr does that sort ofthing again.
I'd have a huge issue with him,Like you just can't do that
sort of thing.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
Yeah, you don't.
We definitely don't want allthat either.
You don't want the governmenttelling you what really to be
putting on the air, right?
You although FCC, theregulations do make sense as far
as like modesty and you knowbad language, those kinds of
things, things that are high insexual content, you don't want
that on those, those easy to getchannels.
Speaker 1 (40:14):
No doubt, no doubt.
Okay, we're going to move onand we're going to go to uh, the
government shutdown youchannels.
No doubt, no doubt.
Okay, we're going to move onand we're going to go to the
government shutdown you.
Speaker 2 (40:24):
we were talking about this before.
You're like is there going to?
Speaker 1 (40:25):
be a government shutdown, and there might be,
but really will there be, not so?
They always say all right well,let's hear from Trump first,
then we'll discuss whetherthere'll be a government
shutdown.
My guess is there will not be,but my guess is now.
So here's Trump on thepotential for a government
shutdown, which would happenOctober 1st at midnight.
Speaker 6 (40:39):
I tell you that they're deranged.
They're sick in so manydifferent ways.
Look, we just votedsuccessfully in the House, but
the Senate doesn't have enoughvotes Republican votes to a
continuing resolution.
Keep the country open.
We're doing so well.
We're setting records in thestock market virtually every day
.
Everything is going so well andthe Democrats want to close it
(41:01):
down.
They want crime.
I mean, if you think about it,they want crime.
We don't.
They want open borders we don't.
They want everything they want.
They want men playing inwomen's sports.
They want transgender foreverybody.
As far as I don't know how theyget elected, I don't know how
they get any votes.
We should have a tremendousmidterm.
We I don't know.
You know, statistically thepresident loses the midterm for
(41:26):
whatever reason.
But we have a great presidency.
We have crime down.
We have everything that peoplewant Taxes way down.
We give the biggest.
We just got to prove thebiggest tax cut in the history
of our country, the biggest taxcut in the history of our
country, the biggest regulationcut in the history of our
country.
I think we're going to have agreat midterm okay, well, we'll
see.
Speaker 1 (41:45):
But so now, while the midterms are usually a
disadvantage for the president,government shutdowns tend to be
an advantage for the president,and what I mean by that is the
president always wants to keepthe country open, whoever the
president is, and it's the otherside in congress that that is
willing to shut it down, and wemake this argument all the time.
In politics, the more simpleargument usually wins.
(42:05):
So if your argument in yourTrump is got to keep the
government open, keep peopleworking, keep things going, and
the argument from the Democratswill be well, we want to protect
this money, to be able to do it, and then you're gone.
You lose, right, you lose, andso that's why I don't think the
(42:25):
Democrats are going to shutthings down.
I'd be shocked.
But there is one person inagain.
He's our guy now.
Speaker 2 (42:30):
Is he though?
Well, I don't even like whenyou say that the only thing you
have in common with Fetterman isyou both wear hoodies.
Speaker 1 (42:35):
Oh, that's not Israel .
We both feel the same way aboutIsrael.
We both love Israel.
Thank you for the clarification.
Go ahead.
Speaker 2 (42:42):
No, no, no, I want to .
He's saying that you know,shutting down the government's a
dangerous game, right?
So here is Mark's boy,fetterman, giving us a little
piece of his mind on this.
Speaker 1 (42:54):
But that's a dangerous tactic.
If you are going to shut thegovernment down for one of our
policies, I think it's the rightthing to extend those health
care things, but it isabsolutely the wrong thing, for
a lot of reasons, that we'regoing to shut our government
down.
Ok, but there's a great exampleof boiling down what I mean
he's like.
Well, those health care things,those are good.
We need to do that.
Speaker 2 (43:13):
Those things.
I was like those things.
Speaker 1 (43:15):
But we can't shut the government.
But what makes more sense inthere?
Don't shut the government down.
Like it's always hard whenyou're the out-of-party or
out-of-power party to be able tojustify why you're shutting the
government down.
I don't recall a time in mylifetime where the out-of-power
party is like, hey, yeah, andthey make the case, and
Americans are like, yeah, shutthat thing down.
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Now there are plenty ofhardcore people on either side
that'll do it because that's theway they are.
But you know, we'll end upseeing how that shakes out.
But Trump mentioned in therethe midterms.
Ok, so I want to.
I want to jump to the midtermshere.
Just clip 20.
And it's interesting becausethis is one of the numbers we
watch.
Speaker 2 (43:55):
Talking about the midterms, OK, this is the the
2026 generic congressionalballot.
Speaker 1 (44:01):
Yep, yep.
So it's when people are asked,coming up in 2026, who are you
going to vote for?
The Republican or the Democrat?
That's it.
That's all that really means.
Ok, ok, and that's for Congress.
Who are you going to vote for?
There's the number.
If that ends up being the case,right there, republicans would
be pretty happy with that, right.
So that's just some of thelatest numbers, and these are
(44:23):
from a bunch of different groups.
It's Big Data, poll Insider,advantage, rasmussen and
Trafalgar.
Speaker 2 (44:29):
Well, you need to say Democrats said 47% they'd vote
Democratic and Republicans 46%that they would vote.
Speaker 1 (44:35):
You're right, I didn't even give the numbers.
No, you didn't.
Speaker 2 (44:36):
You're a little tired , so let's make sure that we
actually say that for ourlistening audience.
It's a good point Watch.
Speaker 1 (44:43):
Yeah, that's a very, that's a very fair point.
But so so we'll see.
Right now it's roughly even.
Uh, there's some polls showingthings a little different than
that, but overall it's roughlyeven.
So we'll see how that shakesout.
Trump makes the case out ofDemocrats ever get any votes,
you know and he goes into allsorts of different things.
But the point being, in all ofthis, we got to see how it all
shakes out, see what the economydoes, interest rates,
everything else but I think it'sgoing to be I do think it's
(45:05):
we've talked about this manytimes I think it's going to be a
narrow, democratic year, butnot a, not a big you know, big,
big blowout by any stretch.
Speaker 2 (45:13):
Okay.
Well, this is your favoritesegment of our life Sunday game
day, oh my gosh, all right guys.
Speaker 1 (45:18):
Look, we got a problem on Sunday game day.
So, ella, we are going to haveto pull the sound up on this
because we have a mystery.
I got up two days ago and Ilooked at one of the cameras and
it had been moved in the middleof the night.
Speaker 2 (45:32):
Ooh, that's like a, and now I don't know what.
Blair witch yes.
Speaker 1 (45:33):
Yes, and I don't know what it's like the Blair Witch
yes yes, and I don't know whatmoved it, so I'll just show you
the little clip I have.
You're not going to see ananimal, but I just I'm trying to
guess at what this is.
I think I may know, but take alisten.
So it moved in.
Speaker 4 (45:59):
And then you'll hear it again.
Speaker 1 (46:02):
What do you think?
Speaker 2 (46:03):
it's a bear yeah, I think it's a bear too I don't
think that it's not really thebig fine like dun dun dun.
It's a bear dad, if it helps.
I didn't know what it was yeah.
Speaker 3 (46:12):
Well, here's a little fresh tip.
Ella what?
Speaker 1 (46:15):
bears hate game cameras they do move them around
they will eat them, move them.
Speaker 2 (46:21):
I mean I don't know if they think it's food or an
animal or what, or they can.
I think they can hear I thinkyou're right.
Like there's some sort ofsensor that like you don't hear
it, I don't hear it yeah butthey hear something and they
always want to bat it yeah ornot, and I move that one down
lower and I think, that's's whatgot well, I know, but I want a
better angle, Like it's shown usa much better angle of bobcats
(46:43):
and stuff like that now that wemoved from down.
Speaker 1 (46:45):
Okay, but yeah, that bear definitely went for it.
All right, this is just as weget into hunting season.
Many of you are hunting aroundthe state and that's a good
looking buck right there.
Look at this guy.
See the low angle.
Speaker 2 (46:57):
Yeah, you get a nice look at him.
Yeah, he looks right at you.
He's like hello everybody helooks good.
Speaker 1 (47:00):
Oh, his little wing-a-ling-a-ding, little
wing-a-ling-a-ding-a-ding, he'sin there.
Okay, oh my gosh, oh goodnessgracious, okay, moving on, maybe
we should have blurred thattough to fur or something.
Speaker 2 (47:15):
You are as red as your hoodie right now.
I didn't know.
Speaker 1 (47:18):
I didn't know that was going on.
I mean, I didn't really noticethat.
Speaker 2 (47:21):
Next time blur that out.
I mean come on Speaking of theFCC.
We don't need to get it, I know.
Speaker 1 (47:26):
I'm sorry about that, but he's a good looking buck.
He really is All right.
Then a bull, an elk bull.
Here this guy again, low angle,see this.
Speaker 2 (47:35):
Yeah, he's right in it Look he's right in it.
Speaker 1 (47:37):
He looks great.
I mean, he's beautiful.
Speaker 2 (47:40):
Yeah, they are good looking.
Speaker 1 (47:40):
Look how big, he's huge.
Speaker 2 (47:43):
Yeah, they've been eating well.
Speaker 1 (47:45):
Yeah, there's no question, that's for sure
especially up there.
Okay, so there's one more video.
Okay, and this is a skunk thatgoes running through Look at him
.
Speaker 2 (47:56):
There he goes, he's gone.
Speaker 1 (47:57):
We should have put music to that one, oh I know
he's like yeah, it was, I'llshow us one more time.
So I'm running, I'm running offthrough.
Speaker 2 (48:06):
There he is.
Speaker 1 (48:06):
He's got some quick yeah he's got some quickness
that tail goes up, he goes rightthrough, he's very Pepe Le Pew.
Yes, okay, all right.
So one last thing I got to showyou.
Yes, what does it mean?
Speaker 2 (48:16):
I know exactly what it means, but I don't want to
ruin it for you.
I actually teach this in mydebate class.
Speaker 1 (48:20):
Okay, well, jump the shark means you've kind of, um,
you've gone over the line, sortof.
So you go over the line andthen it's like one of the
everybody notices this in TVshows when something happens,
they go too far and the show'snever the same, right, okay?
Speaker 2 (48:33):
So that's what you give an example, and then you
over exaggerate and people arelike you jumped the shark.
Speaker 1 (48:38):
Right right.
Speaker 2 (48:39):
Which I have to say to you quite a bit.
Speaker 1 (48:40):
Yes, no question.
So jumping the shark actuallyoriginated from happy days, when
Fonzie agreed to jump a shark,okay, and while Richie was
driving the boat.
Now, as we watch the video andFonziezie tries to jump, he's
got the leather coat on.
And, by the way, as fon startsgoing, go ahead, else you can go
(49:02):
and just put a little bit ofsound beneath it uh, you need to
tell people why you're showingthis today well, it's 48 years
ago today, okay.
So there's the shark in thewater, okay, and there's potsy
and ralph I mean, they're justralph mouth sitting there like
why do we agree to do this?
They're scared for Fonzie,right?
Well, fonzie, obviously you cantell here.
(49:23):
As he's going in the video,it's pretty easy to tell a
couple things.
First of all, he can barelystand up on the water skis.
I mean, this is just nuts.
But not only can he do that.
Speaker 2 (49:34):
And his leather jacket.
Speaker 1 (49:34):
And his leather jacket.
He's not only going to barelystand up, he's going to go off
this ramp and jump like 30 feeteasy to get over the shark,
which is right here, and he'sset to go the slow-mo, yeah, the
slow-mo that he goes over, andhe goes right over the shark, as
only Fonzie can do.
(49:55):
Here it comes, yes, he nails it.
And then Richie looks back andRichie's been dry.
Yeah, richie gives him the a,okay.
Speaker 2 (50:02):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (50:02):
Yeah, richie's like, wait till I become a director.
It's going to be incredible,and there it is.
So that is jumping the shark.
Okay, okay, so, but youexplained to everybody like the
shark right, but then it'susually a negative thing.
Yeah, but fonzie cleared it.
So the thought has always been,though, that that fonzie, here
(50:23):
he comes, coming back in by theway, just stands right up and
walks away.
It's actually pretty good.
Speaker 2 (50:27):
It does look like he really did do that it does
actually it looks really good.
Speaker 1 (50:31):
No, I think the the thing about jumping the shark is
that on happy days it was neverquite the same oh, oh after
that yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (50:39):
Kind of it was.
Maybe they were trying to dothat to get more ratings.
Speaker 1 (50:42):
Well, maybe it was because Fonzie was hanging out
with Richie, who's like 17, andFonzie's like 56.
Right, and did anybody everconsider the fact that Fonzie
was hanging out with everybodyand was 30 years older than them
?
Like, was that, would that bean issue?
Now, if Ella comes home withFonzie and he's like 43, I'm
like Fonzie, like you were in mymath class in high school, like
what are we doing here?
Speaker 2 (51:02):
Yeah, that could go.
It probably didn't age well,let's just say it's not aging as
well right now, when you watchthat.
Speaker 1 (51:08):
Yeah, yeah, but I still love it.
It was a great show.
Speaker 2 (51:11):
Oh, it was a great show.
It Like that's usually kind ofwhat happens to some of this.
Some of the shows lose a littlebit of their spark.
Speaker 1 (51:17):
Well, yeah, potentially, jimmy.
Kimmel hey easy, sorry, allright.
Speaker 2 (51:22):
I'm sorry for all the people that are out there, like
fighting for Jimmy Kimmel tooright now.
Speaker 1 (51:25):
No, please.
Speaker 2 (51:25):
Were you actually?
When was the last time youwatched his show?
Speaker 1 (51:29):
It's pretty obvious you haven't, you haven.
So you know, if you reallywanted to support him, I guess
you could have done that bywatching the show.
Seriously, yeah, honestly,there are stations literally
some of those AI stations wherethey show a glimmering lake that
get higher ratings than JimmyKimmel.
It's rough, it's true, it's sotrue, okay Well, thanks you guys
.
Speaker 2 (51:48):
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We appreciate it.
We hope you have a great startto the rest of your week.
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Speaker 1 (52:29):
There is no doubt about it.
All right, we are back a little late with this
episode.
Sorry about that Late.
On a Sunday night I had aflight in late this afternoon
and was coming in from Liberty.
Yeah, I see, I got more gear.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Yeah, you sure did.
I did Leave it to Mark to likeanywhere he goes.
He's like let's go get gear.
Yeah, yeah, well, I mean, I youknow did.
I did Leave it to Mark to likeanywhere he goes.
He's like let's go get gear.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Yeah Well, I mean, you know, even I went to the
bookstore, and so I was outthere with her.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Did you get anything for Ella?
Speaker 1 (00:32):
and I so.
Anyway, you know it was reallycrowded in there and you guys
are so picky.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Oh yeah, that's what it is.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
You are you?
Speaker 1 (00:41):
are Ella.
Either way you are, you areElla, you can I, I.
There are a million things Ithink Ella would like, and then
all of a sudden she's like no, Idon't want any of that, and so.
I'm not true.
Last time I was in Liberty,there was one hoodie that I
really wanted and we looked atthe price tag and it was a
hundred dollars from a college.
It is amazing, I my friend,vince Torres, who who went to
Liberty.
Uh, he said, hey, you mindpicking me up a hoodie.
(01:02):
I said, yeah, absolutely.
So we go into the bookstore andI take some pictures and shoot
them to Vince.
And he picked the one that was$150.
It wasn't $150, but it was.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Vince, you're the reason I'm not getting a hoodie,
because you're getting a hoodieguys, so you're welcome, you're
welcome.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Vince will pay for his own hoodie.
He can handle it, but it was.
I am kind of a little sheepishabout handing it to him because
it's a thin hoodie.
It's really cool, it's a Nikehoodie.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Yeah, you know, but it's oh, you paid for the Nike
is what you paid for, yeah, Iguess.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
So, yeah, you did, because I got like the Champion
one I've got here, which I love.
This is is what I'm going totell you.
So, vince, I'm just kind oflaying that out for you right
now, so you know, so I don'thave to break the news to you
when I ask you, for it won't betriple digits, but it uh it was
expensive.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
It was expensive.
We can probably give it toVince.
We can probably.
We can probably help him out.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
I'm assuming.
So Well, you know, I he'll loveit.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
I'll give him part of my donation for the lack of
gear.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Yeah, no, gear.
Yeah no, ava.
And I found your christmaspresent.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
We did okay, my christmas present's not going to
be liberty year.
We'll see what happens uh.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
So my god.
Well, not for me, do we need tohave this conversation, no we
don't, we don't not right now,not right now scouting.
Don't, don't let mom, we willhave the gift guide.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Uh coordination episode, maybe like october or
november, yeah, to show husbandswhat might be appropriate as a
Christmas gift.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Absolutely Okay.
So, all having that having allbeen said, uh sorry, just flew
in a few minutes ago, so I amfried, so I will, we will move
this along, but but wedefinitely wanted to to do a
show to talk about what's goneon with.
Uh, obviously, the the CharlieKirk Memorial was today on.
Sunday and some amazing stuffthere.
We'll go through some of thatand talk about that, and,
christy, you can lead us throughthat and then we're going to
talk about this Kimmel stuff alittle bit too.
There are a lot ofmisconceptions out there.
Speaker 6 (02:51):
Right On the Jimmy Kimmel thing.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Yes, trump kicked Kimmel off the air.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
The administration is killing free speech.
I'm like wait, what are youbelieving?
Now let's talk about that.
I think it's important.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Absolutely, and we gave you know a last episode or
two episodes ago.
We talked about the dwindlinglocal news numbers, and the
local ratings in general arecollapsing, okay, and we're
going to tie that in a littlebit to what's happened with
Kimmel Cause I do think itmatters, so we have a some
information on that as well.
We're going to talk about thepossibility of a government
shutdown.
It's a possibility here comingup at the beginning of October
and that could happen, and whyit would be much worse for one
(03:27):
side than the other in the waythis whole thing breaks down.
Then we're going to just take aquick look at the congressional
ballot.
What's going on with thatcoming into next year?
If you just ask somebody today,you're going to vote for the
Democrat, you're going to votefor the Republican.
What are they saying?
It's interesting.
Some of the numbers areinteresting.
We got game day, all right,sunday game day.
We have an unidentified animal.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Oh, I can't tell what it is.
Well, our viewers can write inand say what they think it is.
Well, yeah, the problem is theanimal does not Chuba cabra,
chuba cabra, it does not appearon the actual camera.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
So, yeah, some vandalism happened to the camera
and it was some sort of animal,I just don't know which one.
And then we're going to endwith a legendary moment in
television history that has ledto a saying that I know you all
have heard, but I don't know ifyou know where it comes from,
but we have the clip.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Okay, perfect, Okay, well, let's dive in because
obviously this was quite a day.
We had friends who went to theCharlie Cook Memorial out in
Arizona and it wrapped.
It started at 11 pm their localtime 11 am 11 am.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
It started their local time 11 pm.
Oh sorry, 11 am 11 am thismorning this morning.
Yes, right on Sunday morning.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
And it lasted five and a half hours.
Okay, the actual memorial wasfive and a half hours.
It was packed and so I wantedto show you.
This is some video.
We got early today for some ofour friends that are out there.
Thousands, they believe a closeto a hundred thousand people
showed up.
The auditorium holds a littleover six, a little under 64,000
(05:00):
people, and then they had anoverflow auditorium.
So our friends some of ourfriends arrived as early as 3.30
this morning, waited four hoursto get in and they said they
were like 10,000 people werebefore them and they thought
they would be an early bird.
So, anyway, quite a turnout.
I would say High security too.
I don't have them in here, butthey said they saw snipers all
(05:20):
over the buildings out there andstuff which obviously anybody
that saw any of the speaking.
Today.
They had about an hour and ahalf of live worship that
started.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Oh, is that what this picture is?
Yeah, this is some live worship.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
I wanted to kind of get the idea, Absolutely yeah.
These are pictures that weresent to us by some viewers of
our show and some friends ofours that kind of showed a
little bit of definitely aworship-type feel, a religious
aspect.
Little bit of like definitely aworship type feel, right, a
religious aspect.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Very, you know, well done good and faithful servant,
obviously written on this.
Charlie Kirk, this program,yeah.
And if you spend time inespecially more Protestant
leaning churches this is astatement that is regularly
offered up by the pastor, whichis really cool.
That's that thought that if you, when you get to heaven and
Jesus comes up to you and says,well done, good and faithful
servant, like that's theultimate compliment and you
(06:11):
lived a life with Christ as thecenter of that life and there's
no question, you can saywhatever you want about Charlie
Kirk.
He had very strong faith.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
No doubt about that Right.
And you see these signs thatpeople were holding that said
never surrender.
We also put that in there aswell.
And then you know just some.
Really, I mean the entirecabinet, from my understanding,
or close to the entire cabinetpresidential cabinet was there
today.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
There must be a designated survivor back in DC.
Well, we did, but that would beit.
I mean, honestly, we weretalking about the security level
.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
How do you get this much security and how much do
you organize all this?
I can't imagine having that bigof a crowd, and then basically
everybody in the powerhouse andthe administration was there
today.
So they did all speak behindbulletproof glass, which is
unusual indoors is what I readabout today but they were all
behind this bulletproof glass.
So we pulled a couple of clipsfrom this that we thought were
(07:02):
impactful that we wanted toshare with you guys today.
The first one came from TulsiGabbard and she was just
speaking from the heart aboutCharlie, so we'll play this one.
Speaker 5 (07:10):
For those of us who knew Charlie, and even those of
you who may never have had thechance to meet him in person, we
all know and experienced howCharlie spoke with a calm
courage, not asking what willGod do for me, but instead
praying God, use me for yourwill.
He showed respect andcompassion for everyone, even
(07:35):
those who opposed him, and Ithink, especially for those who
opposed him.
He invited them to his table oron his show, saying let's talk.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Yeah, I thought that was just profound just very kind
.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
Yeah, it is, and I think what is interesting and
what you hear throughout of whatmost people talk about here, it
was half tribute and halfservice or revival.
Revival is a word everybodyjust keeps bringing up, which is
true if you listen to a lot ofwhat he says.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Right.
Well, speaking of that, let'sgo into JD Vance, because he
kind of brought the fire and hedefinitely talked about how this
is not just a funeral, or noteven primarily a funeral.
It is more about something thatCharlie Kirk was hoping to see
across America, which is arevival.
Speaker 4 (08:17):
You know, I can't help but think that they tried
to silence my friend CharlieKirk.
They tried to silence our dearfriend Charlie Kirk and today,
tonight, we speak with Charlieand for Charlie, louder than
ever.
The evil murderer who tookCharlie from us expected us to
(08:52):
have a funeral today and instead, my friends, we have had a
revival in celebration ofCharlie Kirk and of his Lord
Jesus Christ.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
So I thought, yeah, he definitely got the biggest
applause.
I think initially he kind ofbrought in some fire into that
auditorium today, from what Icould see, and then were you
going to say something.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
Well, I just think there, I know I have this
quizzative look on my face andyou're like should I?
Speaker 2 (09:18):
go to this guy.
Does he know what he's doing?
I wasn't sure.
I was like do you want to jumpin please?
Speaker 1 (09:23):
I completely understand, sure?
I was like don't we understand?
Jump in please.
I, I completely understand.
Uh, I what?
What struck me in that moment,just as I saw him because I
haven't seen that sound bitethat you just put in um, what
struck me in that moment ischarlie kirk and jd vancer, of
this cloth of incrediblyeffective messengers, and they,
they remind me of each other alittle bit in different ways.
(09:45):
They have differentcommunication styles, actually
they're quite different, butthey're both hyper-competent and
when you listen to them yousometimes draw the same thing
out of them, where you're like,if they're saying this, I need
to at least investigate it andgive it some real thought,
because I respect the horsepowerof the intellectual argument
(10:05):
and I just think so.
He just kind of struck me inthat way.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
Yeah.
I don't know, I don't know why,but Well, I and I think you know
again, like and I've said this,I said this to some of my
students, I've said this topeople I've been talking to this
past week about Charlie Kirkwhether or not you liked Charlie
Kirk or not, or you agree withhim or disagree with him, the
one thing that's very clear isthat he was a very good
communicator, and so when peopleare out there basically
(10:30):
trash-talking him about how hestirred up violence and stirred
up hate and stirred up all thisstuff, I'm like he didn't do
that.
He actually was one of the fewpeople I've seen that can stay
pretty calm in a situation andcan invite people down to have
like, let me hear your side andthen I'll debate you on that.
And so I just think that'ssomething that I hope that
people really start to actuallyinvestigate and like look at
(10:50):
clips from him and watch what hedid, because if they didn't, I
think you're just listening tothe noise that's out there
repeating what you think he wasabout, when, honestly, like, you
can't really find those clipsto support that thought.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
Yeah, and also I think, and one of the things I
talked to Ava about this weekendwas the work that goes into
being that good at something.
By the way, he's just not thatgood at something.
You don't just walk in and dowhat he did, right, you just
don't.
It takes a tremendous amount ofwork and it also takes staff to
help you distill down somethings.
Now, his recall is tremendous,right, I distill down some
(11:30):
things.
Now, his recall is tremendous,right, I've said that before.
It's unbelievable.
But the kind of work that ittakes to be that kind of
messenger, it really issomething that is significant,
so it really is unbelievable,and when you watch it, so it's
just sorry.
One more quick clip here beforewe well, we have a couple.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
So, we've got Trump, who came in and spoke as well.
He was there for the entirething and he was actually
sitting with Elon for part of it, which was kind of part of the
like people were like, oh, andthey're shaking hands.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
So I was like are they making up A little bit of a
bridge being built here?
Yeah, is there a bridge beingbuilt?
Speaker 2 (11:51):
But that's not what he's obviously speaking about.
So just a quick clip fromDonald Trump on Charlie Kirk as
well.
Speaker 6 (12:05):
Charles James Kirk was was heinously murdered by a
radicalized, cold-bloodedmonster for speaking the truth
that was in his heart.
He was violently killed becausehe spoke for freedom and
justice, for God and country,for reason and for common sense.
He was assassinated because helived bravely.
He lived bravely, he livedboldly and he argued brilliantly
(12:28):
.
Without apology, he did whatwas right for our nation.
And so on that terrible day,september 10th 2025, our
greatest evangelist for Americanliberty became immortal.
He's a martyr now for Americanfreedom.
(12:51):
I know I speak for everyonehere today when I say that none
of us will ever forget CharlieKirk, and neither now will
history.
Ok, can I?
Speaker 2 (13:04):
ask you something about that, and neither now will
history Okay, can I?
Speaker 1 (13:06):
ask you something about that.
Yeah, so you've got to wonderwhat Trump thinks.
I mean his heart of hearts andTrump won't probably open up in
a huge way, and maybe Trumpdoesn't.
I don't know.
I've not met him and a lot ofpeople talk about when you talk
to Trump one-on-one it'sdifferent, or whatever but I
wonder what his real thoughts onall this are, because he came
(13:29):
so close to dying.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Right.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
I mean, it was literally a quarter of an inch
and he would have been dead.
And for Charlie it was.
You know it was.
It was that close and then thatwas it.
So if you're Trump, what goesthrough your mind as you're
giving that speech?
Going?
He is a martyr for a cause thatI share with him and I became.
(13:51):
I was within a quarter inch ofbeing the same martyr.
I don't know how you processthat in a way that makes sense
and that it doesn't kind ofalways sort of haunt you in a
weird way, or does it drive you,does it make you think, oh no,
I'm not going to let you guysstop me from.
You know, and God has me herefor a reason.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Well, I do think it's interesting that he showed up.
He attended the actual memorialservice instead of sending in a
video or something to thatdegree.
I think that kind of speaks toyou know him wanting to somehow
not only honor him but to carryon the torch.
So I think that that'sdefinitely important.
But what was interesting wasErica, his wife, erica Kirk.
She was named this past weekthe new CEO of Turning Point.
(14:35):
She got up and gave quite aspeech.
I pulled one clip from herbecause I think this will be the
clip that people will rememberthe most.
I think she's an impactfulspeaker herself.
However, I just think that wasreally interesting that you have
Trump which not surprising, butTrump's going to be like a
monster killed him.
Da, da, da da.
And then you have Erica comingout and saying okay, I you know,
(14:59):
as a Christian, as what I amcalled to do is to forgive, and
I think let me play the clip andthen we can discuss it.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (15:06):
Young man on the cross.
Our savior said father, forgivethem, for they not know what
they do.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
That man, that young man, I forgive him Gets a
standing ovation, they pan outhere and they show.
(15:44):
You know, the entire auditoriumstands up for her.
This was just one part of herspeech, obviously, right, I do
think this is what you're goingto see.
The most talked about of herspeech is this.
You know it's interesting.
I, you know, as a Christian,obviously we're called to
forgive, we're told, actually,that you know, when you forgive
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others, it actually releases theburden off of yourself.
So, you know, make sure thatyou release that as quickly as
possible, right, it's kind ofwhat we were.
I've been taught that since,like Sunday school days when I
was a small child.
I just think it'd beinteresting if the if you know,
if something had happened to sayyou right, right, I'm not sure
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I would be the person if I'mbeing honest that could get up
there in front of all thosepeople and that would be what I
would have in your memorial.
I'm not sure I'd put it in thememorial.
I think it speaks to hercharacter that she can do that.
I think she knows right now sheis leading the way and I know
that we don't necessarilyforgive people.
We don't necessarily wait forpeople to ask for forgiveness
before we forgive them Right.
But it does seem like thisperson who you know Tyler
(16:52):
Robinson hasn't even begun to,he's not even cooperating with
police at this point.
So to me I'm like there hesenses no sense of
accountability, like the realmeasure of accountability, and
so I kind of am like I don don'tknow.
I'm a little torn on that.
I mean, obviously it's it's herdesire to forgive him.
She feels, like Charlie said,this is what I should do, and so
you know, god bless her forbeing able to be that strong and
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be able to do that.
I think I'm a little bit morejustice oriented, which is not
necessarily like I'm not sayingthat's the right way.
I'm just saying I'm beinghonest that I have a little bit
more justice in me, that I wantsome justice served, and I know
that has nothing to do withforgiveness.
I'm sure people are going towrite in and be like oh Christie
, forgiveness has nothing to dowith actual justice and there's
a, there's godly justice andthen there's earthly justice and
they're two different things.
(17:35):
So I understand all that.
I'm just saying I'm speaking asa woman how I would really
respond if you were taken toosoon in a violent way that I'm.
I just don't know.
I don't know if I would be ableto say that on that fast.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
Well, I think it's interesting because she seems to
say in some of her comments andsome of what I've seen of her,
it's that Charlie, I think.
I think she realizes that, andthey probably discussed it
together that this is not acompletely unexpected outcome,
as sad as that is.
And Charlie knew what he wasdoing, and not that he wanted to
(18:12):
die by any stretch or anythinglike that.
But he knew when he spoke,especially as forwardly as he
did a lot about his faith andthings like that, those things
started to accelerate.
The threats on him acceleratedwith the expansion of him diving
in more to speak openly abouthis faith, and I think he was
okay with that, just like Iwould be too, where it's like
(18:32):
hey, if I'm going to die atsomeone else's hand, if I'm
speaking about God, that's arisk I'm willing to take.
Right, you are for your faith.
Now, do you want it to happen?
Absolutely not.
But I agree with you, I couldnot do what she's doing right
there.
I could not do it.
(19:02):
Especially does not understandwhat has happened here or is
unwilling to acceptresponsibility or open his heart
for forgiveness.
I don't think I'd give it tohim.
I just wouldn't waste my timewith him.
I would not consider him in anyway, shape or form.
He's not worth considerationuntil he comes and says I would
(19:26):
like forgiveness and maybethat's just short-sighted on my
part.
But if he came and said I seekyour forgiveness, then I think
we have an obligation to try todo that.
I'm not saying I could do it,but you got to try.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
Right and agreed.
I totally understand why sheput that out there.
She knew the spotlight was onher today and that their message
of keeping this veryChrist-centered she was trying
to do.
I believe, she's trying to doeverything she can to point back
to.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
God, that's right.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
And I think that that's very commendable and
amazing.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
And I think.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
I just think that I'm probably just a little bit more
I don't know prideful.
Maybe I mean it could bewrapped up in pride.
For sure I'm not saying I'm not, I'm just saying it.
It it takes a while for me toprocess things and I think I you
know there's things that justit takes me a while and I've
even been able to say listen, Iforgive that person, but I don't
(20:24):
want to talk about it, or Idon't want to look at that
person or have anything to dowith that person, and sometimes
that's even taken me a littlebit to get there.
So not that I hold grudges, I'mnot saying that, but I just
think this is a level that I'mnot sure I mean.
Again, this is a very publicmemorial.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
Well, it's also a level of the fact that she's got
to step in for him Like this isa whole big structure too Right
, and there's no way she canpossibly fill his shoes because
she's going to do things and she, I guarantee you, she, has
skills that Charlie doesn't, andCharlie has skills that she
doesn't.
I was like, if you and I tradedplaces in, whatever we were
(21:02):
doing, there are certain thingsyou would do better than I did
them Right, and there arecertain things quite a few that
maybe I could do that you mighthave trouble with.
I'm totally kidding, but youknow what I mean.
Like you're much more likeyou're a better organizational
administrator than I am by far,it's called gifts of
administration.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
Yeah, no, it's unreal .
No, believe me.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
Like if we had turning point, all of a sudden
that thing would be locked downand you'd be running and I'd be
gone and everybody would be like, thank goodness you're here,
it's running somewhat smoother.
But then there are other things, but again you can't be Charlie
, and so my guess is CharlieKirk will be filled by in his
role in society, which is whatyou would expect to be filled by
a hundred other people in ahundred different, smaller ways.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
Well and honestly, I think that the legacy of Turning
Point, or the legacy that whatI think would be fascinating is
this stirring up of today'syouth and the younger generation
.
I've read there's thousands ofnow high school students that
are applying to bring theseTurning Point chapters into
their high school.
That's the legacy.
Right, that was his end game,that was his hope.
(22:05):
So, I think, keeping motivationbehind this, keeping it, you
know, not burning up and blowingup bridges and blowing up and
ripping down statues and doingall the crazy things that
sometimes people have done inthe past when they've disagreed
with something that's happened,a violent offense I think what's
really great about this is yousee people coming together in
prayer and in worship and insaying, hey, listen, this is
(22:27):
what he did.
Well, he debated well, he hadthe conversation, he welcomed
the opposing side in.
So when people call him afascist, it drives me crazy.
I'm like a fascist is the onethat doesn't want you to speak.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Yeah, the fascist uses the gun.
Just so you know, Right, justso we're all clear on that.
But anyway, okay.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
So anyway, a touching no, it is five and a half hour
memorial but again just so youknow if, should you pass before
me, there will not be a five anda half hour memorial nor would
there be enough people there tobe like what are we still doing
here?
Speaker 1 (22:55):
I mean, we talked about the guy for seven, eight
minutes.
Can we move on?
Because that's how, about how?
Speaker 5 (23:00):
long it'd be for me jokes.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
Yeah, we would you know, I don't know wrap it up.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
Go get something to eat, go down and get the crepe
paper and balloons out, let'sget some casseroles, let's get
this thing going.
So I'll tell you.
I think that, but it is atribute to Erica and to many
people who followed Charlie Kirkthat what happened out there
today oh, absolutely, and thefact that you had such a
political sphere of influencethere.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
Rubio, we didn't even talk about him.
Rubio was there.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
Yeah, but just the way they spoke, and it was God
first.
And that's so important,because if you're going to get
in the middle of that world, andespecially the political world,
whether you're out campaigningor pushing for a cause, like
Kirk was, or if you're acandidate or you're in elective
office leading with God, I thinkit is such a centering thing to
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do and it is such a positivething to do.
I just don't think you getanywhere near this sort of
positivity without a Lord andCreator watching over you as you
do it.
I just don't think it canhappen.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
It keeps you focused, keeps you the whole point of it
right.
Keeps you centered.
Okay, we got to dive into thisuh, jimmy Kimmel uh situation
because I think what I foundfrustrating this week was how
much, um, like literally I hatethe word misinformation, but
just misunderstanding, right Ofwhat actually happened.
Who's responsible for Kimmel'sshow getting suspended?
(24:28):
Because, again, he hasn't beenfired, he hasn't been let go,
the show hasn't been canceled,he's been suspended.
He's been asked to give apublic apology.
Apparently, as of the time thatwe're filming this, he's
declined to do that.
But let's review really quicklyabout what he originally said
that aired in some markets andothers it did not air.
(24:49):
So we'll play this clip reallyquickly and then we can kind of
dive into what actually happenedand what the outcome is now.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
We had some new lows over the weekend, with the MAGA
gang desperately trying tocharacterize this kid who
murdered Charlie Kirk asanything other than one of them
and doing everything they can toscore political points from it.
In between the finger pointing,there was a grieving.
On Friday, the white house flewthe flags at half staff, which
got some criticism.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
Okay, so, um, ella, you heard this comment and you
thought it was like it was alittle.
There was some overreactionpotentially.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
Um, I saw a different clip where he played the video
of Trump.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
Oh, and Trump turned in and started talking about the
construction.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
And started talking about the construction and I
feel like it was a really bigoverreaction to take Jimmy.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
Kimmel off the air for that reason.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
And that's what I was told as he was taken off the
air Right.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
So what he was taken off the air for was what you
just heard.
Okay, right, so this.
So what he was taken off theair for was what you just heard.
Ok, not, not the fact that hementioned Trump, who then
immediately pivoted to like, hey, we're building some, this big
beautiful thing.
Ok, agreed, but but what?
But?
What he got taken off the airfor was a couple of things.
This is a much deeper story.
But what he effectively gottaken off the air for was saying
(26:05):
number one he lied right there.
But what he effectively gottaken off the air for was saying
number one he lied right there.
He said that.
Basically, what he said wasthat MAGA is trying to point
this to say that this guy is anyanything but with them.
Ok, he knows that's not true.
He knows that this kid hadnothing to do with, you know,
make America great again, oranything.
He knows that he just he saidsomething that was a lie.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
That was a lie and specifically designed to deceive
and let's back that up reallyquickly.
The reason that he we know thathe knew that, that he had all
that information is because he'sgone on several times on his
show and said he has factcheckers.
He is very factual and he islike drilled people in the past
that have said things about himthat are not true.
He has drilled people likeAaron Rodgers, for example,
other people.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
Right, right, but.
But then he also this is these.
But these were things that werejust simple facts at the moment
it was very.
I mean, everybody knew on Mondayeverybody knew on Monday who
this person was, why they did it, and Jimmy Kimmel knew that.
So Jimmy lied specifically forthat reason.
So that was, that was a bigpart of this.
And so therefore, um, then whatyou ended up seeing was that
(27:12):
his own network took him off theair because they got a ton of
pushback.
They got a ton of pushback fromtwo different sources.
One would be affiliates thatcarry their stuff.
Okay, in other words, the way itworks is the way the affiliates
work, and, for example, in NewMexico, the ABC affiliate is
KOAT.
Koat has to put on Jimmy Kimmelfor the most part.
(27:32):
Okay, now they can push back tosome degree, but what happens
is that, basically, koat has awritten agreement with ABC which
says we carry X amount of yourprograms and they split revenue
and do things like that, and sothey have to pay the network and
all different sorts of thingslike that.
They have a businessarrangement right.
So, in other words, cbs doesn'tput stuff on KOAT, abc only
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puts stuff on KOAT becausethat's the deal that they have.
And so what happens is thesebig ownership groups stood up
mainly Nexstar and Sinclair andsaid enough, enough of this,
okay, and the reason they didthat and we'll get into the
reason they did it in a littlebit.
But but if you're Sinclair andyou're Nexstar and you have a, a
political activist, that goeson every night and basically
(28:19):
tells half the country to poundsand, and your numbers have just
cratered during this time,you're still paying top dollar
for this guy.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
Yeah, he's $16 million a year.
By the way, is his contractOkay?
Speaker 1 (28:30):
you're paying him $16 million.
You're part of that comes fromall the ABC affiliates.
All that money generated comesback in Advertisers.
Advertisers and everything else.
Now in the biggest markets LA,new York, chicago those are what
you call O and O's owned andoperated.
That means that ABC the maincompany they own, abc Chicago,
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abc LA, ABC New York but it'sthe rest of the country that
that that companies like Nextarand Tegna and and Sinclair would
own.
So so then they would come tohim and go what are you doing?
And again, it's the rest of thecountry that tends to get the
most up in arms over some ofthis stuff and get kind of upset
about it.
So that's as you look at partof this issue.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
but then there's another issue.
Well, I think we have toclarify, too, that all the
chatter that I've been hearingabout is Trump or the
administration is the reasonthat Kimmel got pulled.
That is actually not true.
So now let's clarify what istrue.
Okay, so the FCC could havebeen involved?
(29:33):
Right, they could have beeninvolved.
There's actually something Ilooked this up there's something
called news distortion andhoaxes.
Right, this is part of the FCCrules.
That's in the game.
Right, that you can, they haveauthority over.
And again, keep in mind, thisis just the broadcast stations
that you get for free in yourhome, not cable, not streaming,
those kind of things, just yoursimple everyday news outlets.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
Over the air, over the air.
It's the people's airwaves.
That's what we're talking about, but would you put up an
antenna?
Right, you can get it.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
That's who the FCC can file complaints when they
feel like something isn'tfactual, right when it says
while the FCC doesn't regulatethe general accuracy of news, it
can act on complaints aboutdeliberate news distortion or
hoaxes causing substantialpublic harm.
That I believe of the wherepeople are saying that the FCC
got all worked up.
Now what the FCC did was thechairman right.
(30:31):
The chairman did a podcast andbasically kind of put an open
threat out there against ABCright Now me and Mark personally
don't agree that we don't thinkthat was a good move, right.
No, you didn't need to do it hedidn't need to do it right, like
we think that was a bad call.
Another person and we'll comeback to this again in a minute,
but but while we're staying onthat, another person who did not
(30:52):
agree with the chairman oflines from the story that came
out this past week, senator TedCruz, a Republican from Texas,
blasted Federal CommunicationsCommission Chair Brendan Carr on
(31:14):
Friday for threats he made thisweek related to Jimmy Kimmel's
show, calling the Trumpadministration officials'
actions dangerous as hell.
I think it's unbelievablydangerous for government to put
itself in the position of sayingwe're going to decide what
speech we like and what we don'tand we're going to threaten to
take you off the air if we don'tlike what you're saying.
Cruz said on his podcast.
So basically that was kind ofthe gist of Ted Cruz and again,
(31:40):
we agree with that.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
Yeah it was not smart .
Speaker 2 (31:42):
It wasn't smart, but here's the deal.
The FCC didn't actually fileany complaint.
Ok, so that did not actuallyhappen.
This boils down to a couple ofvery simple things.
Jimmy Kimmel's ratings were inthe toilet.
They were basically ABC wasjust giving money and they were
lighting it on fire at the endof the day, very similar to what
we talked about with StephenColbert's show.
(32:03):
Right, I think they're losing$40 million.
That's why he got let go $40million a year, so turning this
into some sort of free speechthing, which is also, I have to
point out very quickly that thefirst amendment just for some
education.
The first amendment is there toprotect you, um, if the
government has, so thegovernment doesn't have a say
over your free speech.
It doesn't apply to corporateAmerica.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
Right.
In other words, you don't getthrown in jail for speech, but
you can lose your job for speech.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
Correct.
So a company, a corporation,can say listen, I don't like
what you tweeted, roseanne Barr,and they can fire you, right.
They have the right to do thatif they want to right.
They also have the right tofire you if your ratings are bad
and let you go.
Right that they have thatfreedom.
I just think what's maddeningabout this is once again trying
(32:51):
to place this all onto Trump andthe administration of Trump.
Trump, I'm sorry.
He definitely shoots his mouthoff.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
He shoots his mouth off.
Well, no, brennan, carr blew it.
It's Carr who blew it.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
Well, Carr blew it.
But I'll just say Trump is abit of a blowhard sometimes on
social media.
Speaker 3 (33:04):
Okay, is a bit of a blowhard sometimes on social
media okay.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
People think that because he put it on social
media, then that must be whathappened, right.
So again, if I was Trump's PRperson, I might have a thing or
two to say to him.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
You would have been fired long ago.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
I'm sure he would not have listened to me, but I just
want to clarify that this isnot something that was caused by
the administration or Trumphimself.
This is not a freedom of speechsituation.
Freedom, this is not a freedomof speech situation.
Freedom of speech does notapply to corporate America, and
so I just I think this is mindblowing, and plenty of people,
plenty of people have beensilenced on public platforms for
(33:36):
for actual freedom and that'sfreedom of speech.
Things like doctors duringcovid shutdowns that wanted to
talk about that and wanted totalk about the vaccines.
They were removed fromplatforms.
I mean, that's a freedom ofspeech issue that you'd want to
maybe concern yourself with.
Jimmy Kimmel's not beingarrested.
He can still go on any platformhe wants to.
He can still say whatever hewants to say.
(33:59):
He has the freedom of being anAmerican citizen to say what he
wants to say.
It just doesn't mean that youget to keep your job necessarily
, as opposed to being a comedian, you're not entitled to a
national television show.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
There's no doubt about that, all right.
So I want to do a little divehere, dovetailing off your point
, because there's another pieceof this.
Okay, and that is the number.
So, ella, let's go to clip 14.
These are the numbers for thepast 15 years for the late night
shows.
Okay, so you have Jimmy Kimmel,you have the late show and you
have the tonight show.
Okay, so now we know that atleast the two on the left are in
(34:31):
dubious territory.
The late show has already beencanceled and it's it's going to
come off the air next year.
The tonight show is still going, and then Jimmy Kimmel.
But if you look at thosenumbers, from, say, 2010 to 2025
, they've hemorrhaged threequarters of their viewers.
Okay, so roughly now, in thatdemo of 18 to 49, which is the
(34:51):
coveted demo, you're talkingabout most of these guys being
around a hundred thousandviewers.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
Yeah, most podcasts, most popular podcasts, get more
viewers and listeners than theseguys get on television now,
just to like paint a picture forpeople.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
Right, right, and so that's unbelievable.
First and foremost, let's gospecifically into Kimmel though.
Uh, just go into the blue thereon the on the left.
Else on that same graph, gointo his.
Okay.
So he at one time was pullinglike a 0.71, which would have
been he'd be, yeah, it wouldhave been gosh 700,000 viewers,
(35:24):
roughly, Okay.
And then now he's down to160,000, something in there.
Okay, that's roughly what hewas looking at or what he's
looking at now.
So he's hemorrhaged anunbelievable amount of his
viewers.
So and we talked about thisgraph a couple shows ago and I
want to show you this as welland I'll make a point and I'll
explain why this is these arethe three different day parts
(35:46):
for television local news inAlbuquerque, okay, and how much
of their audience they have lost, okay.
So, so what you look at here is, in each three networks, what
you have here in the threedifferent day parts, they show
you how much of their audiencethey've lost.
So, in the morning, roughly, uh, krqe has lost 77% of their
(36:06):
audience, 49% is gone from KOATand 31% is gone from KOB.
Then you go to the eveningnewscast five or six o'clock and
then 10 o'clock, okay, but yousee across the board, at least
half of their audience has gone.
If not more, it's really morein most cases.
Okay, so, so that gets us toanother point.
If you own these stations, youown these individual stations
(36:27):
your, your numbers are alreadycratering.
Okay, they're already crateringbecause people are getting
their news from other places.
It's not even necessarilysomething that you're directly
doing all the time, but if youhave somebody, especially in the
evenings, to wrap up your dayor your late night two out of
the three networks and I don'tinclude Fallon in this because I
don't think he does it as muchtwo out of the three networks
and I don't include Fallon inthis, because I don't think he
(36:49):
does it as much.
But you have Jimmy Kimmel andyou have Stephen Colbert, who
deliberately take at least halfthe country and say stick it, I
don't want you watching me.
You already have a collapsingaudience model and then you take
half of the people in thecountry and tell them you hate
them because he does.
Jimmy Kimmel says it all thetime.
He hates half the country.
He says it.
Okay.
(37:09):
So if you own those operations,if you own ABC or if you own
ABC affiliates, the last thingyou want is this clown
continuing to show up anddestroy your brand.
Because if you watch KOAT andthen you see Jimmy Kimmel, come
on, you think that DougFernandez and Shelly Robondo are
sitting there with Jimmy Kimmelsaying, yeah, that's right,
(37:29):
maga sucks man, it's terriblefor your brand.
It'd be the same thing for KRQE.
It would be like StephenColbert sitting there and Dean
and Jessica like, oh my gosh, wehate half the state.
Whatever, right, it's terrible.
It's terrible for your brand,it's an awful idea.
It's the same reason I thinkCNN and MSNBC are stupid to just
(37:51):
slide all the way to the left.
Why?
Because you're splitting thataudience with 10,000 other
people, including Kimball andColbert.
You've got all these people onthe left who just are willing to
just cleave off half theaudience.
It's craziness.
So if you own these networks, ifyou're Perry Sook and you own
(38:12):
Nexstar, you're like I'm sick ofthis guy.
I'm sick of this guy doing this.
It's not that you're some bigRepublican, it's that you're
like I want somebody who's goingto tell the whole country come
watch me and come watch ourproducts.
I don't care what politicalparty you're from, and if I
hammer your political party, Ipromise I'm going to hammer the
other side too.
Right.
So political party, I promiseI'm going to hammer the other
side too, right.
So Kimmel has driven himself toa tiny sliver of audience, and
then he thinks he's entitled tocontinue to lie about that
(38:34):
audience ad nauseum and heshouldn't be accountable for it.
And so, therefore, I think whathappened here is ABC took the
opportunity to take a guy whosenumbers have cratered and they
knew he was making theiraffiliates mad, and they said we
got to back this down, and Ithink they're going to get rid
of them eventually because he'sjust not worth any money.
He's not worth it all.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
But understand he's costing them money at this point
.
Speaker 1 (38:56):
Right.
And there's one other piece ofthis and this has to be
mentioned and it's only fairNexstar is trying to buy Tegna,
which is another big ownershipgroup that has to go through the
FCC.
So if you're an X star, thelast thing you want is to go
crossways with the Trumpadministration because you need
approval to own extra stations.
Basically, the FCC has to saywe're going to take our rule and
(39:18):
we're going to amend it for youand allow you to own extra
stations.
So that's all happening underall of this.
So more than one thing is trueat once.
Right, Brandon Carr shouldn'thave said what he said.
Jimmy Kimmel shouldn't have cutoff half his audience, but he
did, and his ratings are tankinganyway because of normal models
and you also have an approval.
(39:39):
That also has to happen.
All of that is part of thereason.
But one thing that is not partof the reason is Donald Trump
didn't just go and Bigfoot himand get rid of him.
But Ted Cruz is right.
Brandon Carr does that sort ofthing again.
I'd have a huge issue with him,Like you just can't do that
sort of thing.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
Yeah, you don't.
We definitely don't want allthat either.
You don't want the governmenttelling you what really to be
putting on the air, right?
You although FCC, theregulations do make sense as far
as like modesty and you knowbad language, those kinds of
things, things that are high insexual content, you don't want
that on those, those easy to getchannels.
Speaker 1 (40:14):
No doubt, no doubt.
Okay, we're going to move onand we're going to go to uh, the
government shutdown youchannels.
No doubt, no doubt.
Okay, we're going to move onand we're going to go to the
government shutdown you.
Speaker 2 (40:24):
we were talking about this before.
You're like is there going to?
Speaker 1 (40:25):
be a government shutdown, and there might be,
but really will there be, not so?
They always say all right well,let's hear from Trump first,
then we'll discuss whetherthere'll be a government
shutdown.
My guess is there will not be,but my guess is now.
So here's Trump on thepotential for a government
shutdown, which would happenOctober 1st at midnight.
Speaker 6 (40:39):
I tell you that they're deranged.
They're sick in so manydifferent ways.
Look, we just votedsuccessfully in the House, but
the Senate doesn't have enoughvotes Republican votes to a
continuing resolution.
Keep the country open.
We're doing so well.
We're setting records in thestock market virtually every day
.
Everything is going so well andthe Democrats want to close it
(41:01):
down.
They want crime.
I mean, if you think about it,they want crime.
We don't.
They want open borders we don't.
They want everything they want.
They want men playing inwomen's sports.
They want transgender foreverybody.
As far as I don't know how theyget elected, I don't know how
they get any votes.
We should have a tremendousmidterm.
We I don't know.
You know, statistically thepresident loses the midterm for
(41:26):
whatever reason.
But we have a great presidency.
We have crime down.
We have everything that peoplewant Taxes way down.
We give the biggest.
We just got to prove thebiggest tax cut in the history
of our country, the biggest taxcut in the history of our
country, the biggest regulationcut in the history of our
country.
I think we're going to have agreat midterm okay, well, we'll
see.
Speaker 1 (41:45):
But so now, while the midterms are usually a
disadvantage for the president,government shutdowns tend to be
an advantage for the president,and what I mean by that is the
president always wants to keepthe country open, whoever the
president is, and it's the otherside in congress that that is
willing to shut it down, and wemake this argument all the time.
In politics, the more simpleargument usually wins.
(42:05):
So if your argument in yourTrump is got to keep the
government open, keep peopleworking, keep things going, and
the argument from the Democratswill be well, we want to protect
this money, to be able to do it, and then you're gone.
You lose, right, you lose, andso that's why I don't think the
(42:25):
Democrats are going to shutthings down.
I'd be shocked.
But there is one person inagain.
He's our guy now.
Speaker 2 (42:30):
Is he though?
Well, I don't even like whenyou say that the only thing you
have in common with Fetterman isyou both wear hoodies.
Speaker 1 (42:35):
Oh, that's not Israel .
We both feel the same way aboutIsrael.
We both love Israel.
Thank you for the clarification.
Go ahead.
Speaker 2 (42:42):
No, no, no, I want to .
He's saying that you know,shutting down the government's a
dangerous game, right?
So here is Mark's boy,fetterman, giving us a little
piece of his mind on this.
Speaker 1 (42:54):
But that's a dangerous tactic.
If you are going to shut thegovernment down for one of our
policies, I think it's the rightthing to extend those health
care things, but it isabsolutely the wrong thing, for
a lot of reasons, that we'regoing to shut our government
down.
Ok, but there's a great exampleof boiling down what I mean
he's like.
Well, those health care things,those are good.
We need to do that.
Speaker 2 (43:13):
Those things.
I was like those things.
Speaker 1 (43:15):
But we can't shut the government.
But what makes more sense inthere?
Don't shut the government down.
Like it's always hard whenyou're the out-of-party or
out-of-power party to be able tojustify why you're shutting the
government down.
I don't recall a time in mylifetime where the out-of-power
party is like, hey, yeah, andthey make the case, and
Americans are like, yeah, shutthat thing down.
(43:36):
Now there are plenty ofhardcore people on either side
that'll do it because that's theway they are.
But you know, we'll end upseeing how that shakes out.
But Trump mentioned in therethe midterms.
Ok, so I want to.
I want to jump to the midtermshere.
Just clip 20.
And it's interesting becausethis is one of the numbers we
watch.
Speaker 2 (43:55):
Talking about the midterms, OK, this is the the
2026 generic congressionalballot.
Speaker 1 (44:01):
Yep, yep.
So it's when people are asked,coming up in 2026, who are you
going to vote for?
The Republican or the Democrat?
That's it.
That's all that really means.
Ok, ok, and that's for Congress.
Who are you going to vote for?
There's the number.
If that ends up being the case,right there, republicans would
be pretty happy with that, right.
So that's just some of thelatest numbers, and these are
(44:23):
from a bunch of different groups.
It's Big Data, poll Insider,advantage, rasmussen and
Trafalgar.
Speaker 2 (44:29):
Well, you need to say Democrats said 47% they'd vote
Democratic and Republicans 46%that they would vote.
Speaker 1 (44:35):
You're right, I didn't even give the numbers.
No, you didn't.
Speaker 2 (44:36):
You're a little tired , so let's make sure that we
actually say that for ourlistening audience.
It's a good point Watch.
Speaker 1 (44:43):
Yeah, that's a very, that's a very fair point.
But so so we'll see.
Right now it's roughly even.
Uh, there's some polls showingthings a little different than
that, but overall it's roughlyeven.
So we'll see how that shakesout.
Trump makes the case out ofDemocrats ever get any votes,
you know and he goes into allsorts of different things.
But the point being, in all ofthis, we got to see how it all
shakes out, see what the economydoes, interest rates,
everything else but I think it'sgoing to be I do think it's
(45:05):
we've talked about this manytimes I think it's going to be a
narrow, democratic year, butnot a, not a big you know, big,
big blowout by any stretch.
Speaker 2 (45:13):
Okay.
Well, this is your favoritesegment of our life Sunday game
day, oh my gosh, all right guys.
Speaker 1 (45:18):
Look, we got a problem on Sunday game day.
So, ella, we are going to haveto pull the sound up on this
because we have a mystery.
I got up two days ago and Ilooked at one of the cameras and
it had been moved in the middleof the night.
Speaker 2 (45:32):
Ooh, that's like a, and now I don't know what.
Blair witch yes.
Speaker 1 (45:33):
Yes, and I don't know what it's like the Blair Witch
yes yes, and I don't know whatmoved it, so I'll just show you
the little clip I have.
You're not going to see ananimal, but I just I'm trying to
guess at what this is.
I think I may know, but take alisten.
So it moved in.
Speaker 4 (45:59):
And then you'll hear it again.
Speaker 1 (46:02):
What do you think?
Speaker 2 (46:03):
it's a bear yeah, I think it's a bear too I don't
think that it's not really thebig fine like dun dun dun.
It's a bear dad, if it helps.
I didn't know what it was yeah.
Speaker 3 (46:12):
Well, here's a little fresh tip.
Ella what?
Speaker 1 (46:15):
bears hate game cameras they do move them around
they will eat them, move them.
Speaker 2 (46:21):
I mean I don't know if they think it's food or an
animal or what, or they can.
I think they can hear I thinkyou're right.
Like there's some sort ofsensor that like you don't hear
it, I don't hear it yeah butthey hear something and they
always want to bat it yeah ornot, and I move that one down
lower and I think, that's's whatgot well, I know, but I want a
better angle, Like it's shown usa much better angle of bobcats
(46:43):
and stuff like that now that wemoved from down.
Speaker 1 (46:45):
Okay, but yeah, that bear definitely went for it.
All right, this is just as weget into hunting season.
Many of you are hunting aroundthe state and that's a good
looking buck right there.
Look at this guy.
See the low angle.
Speaker 2 (46:57):
Yeah, you get a nice look at him.
Yeah, he looks right at you.
He's like hello everybody helooks good.
Speaker 1 (47:00):
Oh, his little wing-a-ling-a-ding, little
wing-a-ling-a-ding-a-ding, he'sin there.
Okay, oh my gosh, oh goodnessgracious, okay, moving on, maybe
we should have blurred thattough to fur or something.
Speaker 2 (47:15):
You are as red as your hoodie right now.
I didn't know.
Speaker 1 (47:18):
I didn't know that was going on.
I mean, I didn't really noticethat.
Speaker 2 (47:21):
Next time blur that out.
I mean come on Speaking of theFCC.
We don't need to get it, I know.
Speaker 1 (47:26):
I'm sorry about that, but he's a good looking buck.
He really is All right.
Then a bull, an elk bull.
Here this guy again, low angle,see this.
Speaker 2 (47:35):
Yeah, he's right in it Look he's right in it.
Speaker 1 (47:37):
He looks great.
I mean, he's beautiful.
Speaker 2 (47:40):
Yeah, they are good looking.
Speaker 1 (47:40):
Look how big, he's huge.
Speaker 2 (47:43):
Yeah, they've been eating well.
Speaker 1 (47:45):
Yeah, there's no question, that's for sure
especially up there.
Okay, so there's one more video.
Okay, and this is a skunk thatgoes running through Look at him
.
Speaker 2 (47:56):
There he goes, he's gone.
Speaker 1 (47:57):
We should have put music to that one, oh I know
he's like yeah, it was, I'llshow us one more time.
So I'm running, I'm running offthrough.
Speaker 2 (48:06):
There he is.
Speaker 1 (48:06):
He's got some quick yeah he's got some quickness
that tail goes up, he goes rightthrough, he's very Pepe Le Pew.
Yes, okay, all right.
So one last thing I got to showyou.
Yes, what does it mean?
Speaker 2 (48:16):
I know exactly what it means, but I don't want to
ruin it for you.
I actually teach this in mydebate class.
Speaker 1 (48:20):
Okay, well, jump the shark means you've kind of, um,
you've gone over the line, sortof.
So you go over the line andthen it's like one of the
everybody notices this in TVshows when something happens,
they go too far and the show'snever the same, right, okay?
Speaker 2 (48:33):
So that's what you give an example, and then you
over exaggerate and people arelike you jumped the shark.
Speaker 1 (48:38):
Right right.
Speaker 2 (48:39):
Which I have to say to you quite a bit.
Speaker 1 (48:40):
Yes, no question.
So jumping the shark actuallyoriginated from happy days, when
Fonzie agreed to jump a shark,okay, and while Richie was
driving the boat.
Now, as we watch the video andFonziezie tries to jump, he's
got the leather coat on.
And, by the way, as fon startsgoing, go ahead, else you can go
(49:02):
and just put a little bit ofsound beneath it uh, you need to
tell people why you're showingthis today well, it's 48 years
ago today, okay.
So there's the shark in thewater, okay, and there's potsy
and ralph I mean, they're justralph mouth sitting there like
why do we agree to do this?
They're scared for Fonzie,right?
Well, fonzie, obviously you cantell here.
(49:23):
As he's going in the video,it's pretty easy to tell a
couple things.
First of all, he can barelystand up on the water skis.
I mean, this is just nuts.
But not only can he do that.
Speaker 2 (49:34):
And his leather jacket.
Speaker 1 (49:34):
And his leather jacket.
He's not only going to barelystand up, he's going to go off
this ramp and jump like 30 feeteasy to get over the shark,
which is right here, and he'sset to go the slow-mo, yeah, the
slow-mo that he goes over, andhe goes right over the shark, as
only Fonzie can do.
(49:55):
Here it comes, yes, he nails it.
And then Richie looks back andRichie's been dry.
Yeah, richie gives him the a,okay.
Speaker 2 (50:02):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (50:02):
Yeah, richie's like, wait till I become a director.
It's going to be incredible,and there it is.
So that is jumping the shark.
Okay, okay, so, but youexplained to everybody like the
shark right, but then it'susually a negative thing.
Yeah, but fonzie cleared it.
So the thought has always been,though, that that fonzie, here
(50:23):
he comes, coming back in by theway, just stands right up and
walks away.
It's actually pretty good.
Speaker 2 (50:27):
It does look like he really did do that it does
actually it looks really good.
Speaker 1 (50:31):
No, I think the the thing about jumping the shark is
that on happy days it was neverquite the same oh, oh after
that yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (50:39):
Kind of it was.
Maybe they were trying to dothat to get more ratings.
Speaker 1 (50:42):
Well, maybe it was because Fonzie was hanging out
with Richie, who's like 17, andFonzie's like 56.
Right, and did anybody everconsider the fact that Fonzie
was hanging out with everybodyand was 30 years older than them
?
Like, was that, would that bean issue?
Now, if Ella comes home withFonzie and he's like 43, I'm
like Fonzie, like you were in mymath class in high school, like
what are we doing here?
Speaker 2 (51:02):
Yeah, that could go.
It probably didn't age well,let's just say it's not aging as
well right now, when you watchthat.
Speaker 1 (51:08):
Yeah, yeah, but I still love it.
It was a great show.
Speaker 2 (51:11):
Oh, it was a great show.
It Like that's usually kind ofwhat happens to some of this.
Some of the shows lose a littlebit of their spark.
Speaker 1 (51:17):
Well, yeah, potentially, jimmy.
Kimmel hey easy, sorry, allright.
Speaker 2 (51:22):
I'm sorry for all the people that are out there, like
fighting for Jimmy Kimmel tooright now.
Speaker 1 (51:25):
No, please.
Speaker 2 (51:25):
Were you actually?
When was the last time youwatched his show?
Speaker 1 (51:29):
It's pretty obvious you haven't, you haven.
So you know, if you reallywanted to support him, I guess
you could have done that bywatching the show.
Seriously, yeah, honestly,there are stations literally
some of those AI stations wherethey show a glimmering lake that
get higher ratings than JimmyKimmel.
It's rough, it's true, it's sotrue, okay Well, thanks you guys
.
Speaker 2 (51:48):
So much for joining us.
We appreciate it.
We hope you have a great startto the rest of your week.
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