Episode 245: Leaked Polls, A Nervous Incumbent, And What The Mayor’s Race Signals For 2026

The next Albuquerque mayor won’t just shape city hall—they’ll test whether results still beat party colors. We dive into leaked polling that puts crime and homelessness at the center of the race, and we map the exact turnout math a challenger needs to overcome a deep registration gap. If performance has slipped across eight years, do voters choose change—or send a national message that drowns out local reality?

We also unpack a heated national debate: U.S. forces targeting Venezuelan drug boats at sea. You’ll hear the media questions that misframe maritime interdiction as domestic policing, the political fallout of showing empathy for traffickers while overdose deaths climb, and a throwback clip of Joe Biden calling for an international strike force against narco‑terrorists. The larger thread is accountability—whether at the border, on the streets, or at the ballot box.

On the economy, gas prices have eased to their lowest since 2022, but grocery and housing sticker shock still sting. We talk strategy that doesn’t insult voters’ wallets: acknowledge the pain, highlight where wages outperform inflation, and deliver visible wins people can feel week to week. Then we shift gears with some joy: Indiana’s Fernando Mendoza delivers a goosebump-worthy postgame moment and a reminder of what authentic leadership sounds like. We close with crisp mountain footage from the game cam—a regal winter buck, a pair of glowing eyes that resolve into deer, and an enormous mountain lion that steals the scene.

Listen for sharp analysis, clear takeaways, and a grounded look at what matters now—from city safety to national security to the price of your next fill‑up. If this conversation adds value, share it with a friend, hit follow, and leave a quick review so more curious listeners can find us.

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Episode Transcript

SPEAKER_10 (00:04):
Alright.
We're going after it real quick.

SPEAKER_09 (00:08):
I love that you say real quick.
I mean I know that you alwayshave like you stack this show so
fat, and then you're like, justhurry.
I love that you always tell meto hurry.

SPEAKER_10 (00:16):
No, that's not true at all.

SPEAKER_09 (00:17):
Two seconds before I come on the camera.
Mark looks at me and goes, we'regonna make this really fast,
okay?

SPEAKER_10 (00:21):
No, no, no.
I mean off the top.
I didn't actually mean the wholeshow.
But uh we do have a lot to talkabout here, and we will get to a
little bit of mail right off thetop because it addresses some
issues I think we need to talkabout.
Then we had some more pollingdata leaked to us.
And so we are gonna talk aboutthat.
We're gonna talk about themayor's race, which ends on
Tuesday.
We're we're gonna find out a lotabout what happens with the
Albuquerque Mayor's race.

(00:41):
And for those of you not inAlbuquerque, there are plenty of
lessons to take from thisnationally, and we're gonna
point exactly what those are outto you because it's interesting
stuff.
And we did get some decent datafrom some of our leakers.
Apparently, now we're the placeto leak polls.
This is where they go.
When people want to leak theirpoll, I like it, they come to
us.

SPEAKER_09 (01:00):
I do, I like it.

SPEAKER_10 (01:01):
And we do verify that they're real.
Yeah.
Things of that nature.
Believe me, they're not, thesethings are not made up, but
yeah, we'll get into details onthat.
Uh, why I think that DarrenWhite has a chance and why it's
gonna be an uphill struggle,too, at the same time.
There's a bunch of thisVenezuelan boat thing is
bonkers.
You watch some of the questionsbeing asked of the
administration and people likeTom Cotton.

(01:22):
It's amazing to watch theignorance in our media, but we
are gonna talk about that aswell.
We're gonna talk a little bitabout the economy and how,
again, we've continued to harpon it.
It's got to be taken care of andit's got to be something that
the administration deals with.
And then we're gonna get intosome fun stuff.
Number one, perhaps the nextgreat NFL quarterback has
emerged, and his name isFernando Mendoza.

(01:44):
And I and I like him a lot.
And you'll see why we like him alot when we show you his
soundbite after they beat OhioState.
And then Sunday game day is big.
Sunday game day is big today.
Okay, one of the best videoswe've ever had, the best video
we've ever had, I think.

SPEAKER_09 (02:00):
Wow.

SPEAKER_10 (02:00):
And then some fun as well.

SPEAKER_09 (02:01):
I haven't seen the videos, so yes.
So we'll we'll see if I thinkthat is the best.

SPEAKER_10 (02:06):
We'll find out.
So let's get to it.

SPEAKER_09 (02:07):
Okay, well, and I brought you a little buck on the
table.
It is a good looking buck.
No, it's a nice looking.

SPEAKER_10 (02:16):
No.

SPEAKER_09 (02:16):
He's right here for you.

SPEAKER_10 (02:17):
He's he does he's well, he's cut.
He's got some, he's got somebulk to him.
He's solid, he looks healthy.

SPEAKER_09 (02:23):
He's green velvet, too.

SPEAKER_10 (02:24):
Yeah, he is green velvet.
He looks good.
He looks like uh the buck we'regonna show you in the in the uh
game cam video, one of them.
Okay, yeah, no doubt.
I like it.

SPEAKER_09 (02:31):
Okay, well, let's get to some of your mail.
Thank you guys again for writingin.
This is uh the first one.
Been talking, obviously, aboutthis mayor's race.
It says this is from yournutter, I guess.

SPEAKER_10 (02:40):
Yeah, again, why you keep reading the names?
I have no idea why.
You're like, Harry Balls justwrote in.

SPEAKER_11 (02:46):
It's like, what I mean, honestly, what are you
doing?
Okay, I just stop reading thenames.
Should we cut it no?
You shouldn't go read this,goodness.
My apologies, everybody.

(03:08):
All right, okay.
All right, let's roll.

SPEAKER_09 (03:12):
Okay.
If Keller is re-elected,Albuquerque deserves the
downfall.
Downfall.
You see, the economy is goingdown to the dumps.
If you expect Keller to makeimprovements, the next four
years aren't going to improveAlbuquerque.

SPEAKER_10 (03:27):
So obviously that's people taking their shots.

SPEAKER_09 (03:30):
Okay, Luann, I can say this name.
Luann, very good.
Fully.
I feel okay about that.

SPEAKER_10 (03:34):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_09 (03:34):
Uh she says, homeless or a drug addict who
chooses to live on the street.
Parents who care try to helptheir kids over and over until
they realize it's no use.

SPEAKER_10 (03:42):
Yeah, do as much as you can.

SPEAKER_09 (03:44):
Right, which is what we were talking about from last
show.

SPEAKER_10 (03:45):
Absolutely.

SPEAKER_09 (03:46):
And then uh Mary, I can also say her name just fine.

SPEAKER_10 (03:48):
Yes, you sure can.

SPEAKER_09 (03:49):
Uh, we would like to hear news from other areas of
the state instead of justAlbuquerque.
So we haven't been watching asoften now.
Too much on Keller.

SPEAKER_10 (03:56):
Okay, I want to talk briefly about this.
Yeah, Mary, totally understandthe point.
And for those of you who aren'tin Albuquerque, I get it.
We've definitely focused a loton this.
The reason I want to, we'regonna finish up focusing on it
today is because what we want tofigure out right now in this
country as a whole, and this isnot about Albuquerque, it is
about our political environment.
And does performance matter?

(04:18):
Okay.
And if performance doesn'tmatter, then you're going to see
a re-election of a mayor who, byevery single account, has
struggled over eight years.
If you live in Albuquerque, youknow there are places you used
to be able to go that you can'tgo now.
There are places that peoplesleep on the streets where they
never did before.
There is crime at a level thatwe have never seen before.
So you start seeing all this andyou wonder does performance

(04:41):
matter?
And there is no job, I think, inpolitics that is more directly
related to the people than themayor of a city, because they do
the stuff that matters to you.
They pick up the trash, theymake sure that people aren't
suffering on the street, theymake sure that crime isn't
adequate, like they have thereal job that's really connected
to you.
So what's going to be superinteresting about this race is
does performance matter?

(05:02):
Because I think everybody canagree on the performance.
It has not been there.
But does that mean that that themayor doesn't get re-elected?
Or does that mean you got a D byyour name and you're getting
re-elected and doesn't matter?
And so, what is the state of ourpol our politics in the country
right now?
Is it so polarized thatperformance means nothing?
And if performance means nothingon both sides, that is horrible

(05:25):
for the citizens of thiscountry.
Because if you're not doing thejob as a Republican or a
Democrat, you should be bouncedif you're not getting it done.
And so this will be veryinteresting.
So that's why we're focusing somuch on this.

SPEAKER_09 (05:35):
Right.
And also just I think you shouldmaybe allude to a little bit of
the fact that the Albuquerquemayor's race shows quite a bit
of in general, where is the, youknow, uh what are we looking at
when it comes to elections downthe road in 26?
Because Albuquerque is a majormarket for this state for
anybody to win.
And so if there's not a majorshift or if there's that's why

(05:58):
it matters, that's a greatpoint.

SPEAKER_10 (05:59):
That's a great point.
So we see right now there justaren't many candidates for the
big jobs in New Mexico rightnow, governor in U.S.
Senate.
We have a couple of candidatesthat are running on the
Republican side, uh, much moreof a spirited battle on the
Democratic side, uh, especiallyfor governor.
And is that because Republicanscan look at this and go, you
want me to stick my head in thewood chipper?

(06:21):
You know, and we've talked aboutthat.
It's really hard.
And it's hard to make that case.
Right.
So we will see.
So that's why this race is soimportant.
If Darren White wins, or ifDarren White is within three,
four points, something likethat, that shows you with a 20
plus democratic advantage in thecity of Albuquerque for
registration, that shows youthat the performance does matter
and people are starting to move.

(06:42):
So that's, I think a lot ofpeople watch those sorts of
things.
Right.
Okay.

SPEAKER_09 (06:45):
That's important.
Okay, so go ahead.
Let's talk a little bit aboutthis poll that was leaked and
kind of what we've garnered fromit.

SPEAKER_10 (06:51):
Right.
So we did not get the top lines.
We did not get the horse racenumber.
That was that is not what Ihave.
What I have is what do peoplecare about and where does Trump
fit into this?
Okay.
So here's the first one, andhere's what we've got.
Top issues for Albuquerquevoters.
This is pretty similar to whatwe saw with the journal poll as

(07:12):
well.
So this is not that far off fromthe journal poll.
It is crime and safety is almost40% of the people in the city.
That's a huge number.
You combine that withhomelessness.
And this for Darren White is whyyou are optimistic.
If you're Darren White, you lookat these numbers and you go,
people care most and are mostconcerned about the issues in
which I've been running on, inwhich my opponent has, by all

(07:32):
objective measures, fallen downon, right?
So you look at those numbers andyou say, okay, that that makes
some sense.
Then the next number comes in,which is how do the crime and
homelessness numbers combine andwhat kind of total number does
that make up for the electorate?
Over 60%.
I might even argue that numbermay be a little low on this

(07:52):
poll.
I don't know the poll, but I I'mpretty sure that it's a little
low, to be honest with you.
Okay.
Okay, but still, 61% is a lot ofthe electorate.
Okay.
And that number fits prettytightly with the number of
people who want a new mayor,right?
We saw that in the lastelection.
65%, right?
So that's that kind of fits intothat number.
So this poll makes some sense tome, right?

(08:13):
Then you go to the next numberand you start talking about
Trump's favorability.
Um, okay.
So this is pretty rough.
Okay.
It's pretty bad.
This is just in the city ofAlbuquerque.
It is not even BernalilloCounty.
It is just in the city ofAlbuquerque.
Unfavorable 67%.
So this is what we've said.
And then Ella, let's go to theum highly unfavorable.

(08:35):
Is that right?
Is that what we have as thesecond number they can?
Okay.
Or very unfavorable, excuse me.
61% of the 67% are veryunfavorable.
Okay, those are the people whobasically say, I can't stand
this guy, whatever.
Okay.
That's the issue here.
So this is what we've said fromthe very beginning about this
race.
It is a battle of two differentsides.

(08:55):
One side is the day-in, day-outlife you live in Albuquerque,
where you deal with thehomelessness and you deal with
the high crime, and you knowit's not right and you know you
deserve better.
And then you have most of theelectorate in this city who say,
I don't like Donald Trump.
So the question is will theylook at their own personal
experience and say, it's timefor change?
That trumps anything else?

(09:16):
Or will they say, I understandthings, I don't like where
things are now, but I hateDonald Trump and I'm gonna send
him a message.
So I'm gonna basically punishthe city.
Punish myself because I want tosend Donald Trump a message.
Donald Trump doesn't care aboutyour message that you're gonna
send in a mayoral right.
It will not matter to him.
He will do what he does.
Okay, but that's the question.

(09:38):
It is very simply a question ofdo you want improvement and do
you look at this election as itreally is, which is your mayoral
election, or do you look at thisas a way to hop on your team,
your red or your blue team, andin this case, your blue team, to
say, I'm team blue, no matterwhat the result is, and I don't
care.
I think that's what we're gonnafind out.

SPEAKER_09 (09:56):
I think what's interesting is have they been
able to connect the dots thatthe the rise in homelessness and
the rise in crime in our cityare directly correlated back to
the mayor.
And I feel like you you okaybecause you know, I read a lot
of comments on social media andand media outlets that are
posting things.
I go down and read a lot of thecomments just to try to get like
a temperature gauge on wherepeople are at.

(10:16):
I think there's still really a alack in people who don't
understand that leadershipimpacts policy, which is why we
see a rise in crime and anuptick in homelessness.
I think there's still thatmissing link, which blows my
mind.

SPEAKER_10 (10:31):
Yeah, I I know.
And you say that a lot.
And I it's a you make a reallycompelling case.
I just I don't know how you Idon't know how that really is
the case.
I mean, if you really look atwhere we are, how in the world
do you say, like, that's not themayor's salt?
Like there's some will, don'tget me wrong, there's plenty of
willful ignorance out there.
But what we're talking abouthere is that that voter who's

(10:52):
not completely locked into beingwillfully ignorant.
I mean, you have to reallyconvince yourself that that that
Tim Keller has no ability toaffect these things, that takes
willful ignorance.
And I think those people arethere, they're there on both
sides all the time, you know?
But I I don't think there'senough of those people to to
really justify to justify this.

(11:12):
I don't think there's willfulignorance as much as there is
that this is my team and that'sit.
This is my sport.

SPEAKER_09 (11:17):
Okay, but I would say that the willful along with
those comments, it's like, well,this is a national problem.
This isn't just happening here.
It's like this whole thing oflike literally.

SPEAKER_10 (11:24):
But it's far worse.
Yeah, no, okay, yeah.
No, I search a show.
It's far worse here.

SPEAKER_09 (11:27):
But again, those people are not watching our
show.
Yeah, right.
So they're not, and they're onlylistening to them to the media,
the main media, yeah, and theyhave no idea how bad we actually
are ranked right now.
So I just think that to me isstill that missing link that I
hope that why that's why wealways tell people tell people
about our show.
We want people to still find outthings because I think that's
there's a real lack for that.
Sure.
And just an understanding ofwhat's actually happening and

(11:48):
what's transpiring.
So okay, so let's talk aboutwhat does Darren need to Darren
White needs to do.

SPEAKER_10 (11:53):
Yeah, we want to show you how look, and this is
not a to give you a downer, butthis is to tell you that if you
know people that have not voted,you need to make phone calls to
get people to vote.
Because this is an uphill battleany way that you cut it.
Darren has to get roughly around20% of Democratic voters to vote

(12:14):
for him to win.
That's a big number in this dayand age.
It doesn't happen very often,okay?
And that's why the mayorperformance thing is so
important, right?
That's why we think there's achance for this to happen
because the performance of themayor is so directly tied to the
people.
But that 20% slide to give youan idea, Susanna Martinez used

(12:34):
to be able to do that.
She used to be able to get, backwhen she won, she was able to
get around 20, 25% of Democratsto vote for her, especially soft
Democrats.
This day and age, you can't, noone's doing that.
Nobody's doing it.

SPEAKER_09 (12:48):
I feel like if they slide against the party, then
they're voting for the city.

SPEAKER_10 (12:51):
Well, Trump has changed everything about where
we are on our sides and we aregoing forward here.
Okay.
And so we we couldn't do that.
I mean, we got we got morevotes, you know, democratically
than a lot of other people couldhave.
There's no question about that,but not enough.
Right.
We didn't make up the last fiveand a half percent or whatever
it was, right?
So you've got to try to do that.

(13:12):
But just so you know, Darren'sgotta do that because Democrats
have about a 25-point advantagein the city of Albuquerque,
which is really high advantage.
It's a high advantage, right?
So that's just a fact.
So it you gotta vote.
This is not like, oh,everybody's mad, they're gonna
blow Keller out.
No, not true.
No, not true, not true at all.

SPEAKER_09 (13:28):
In fact, I would say that some of the information
we're getting told is that thevoter turnout is much lower than
they anticipated.
Now, usually a runoff electionis pretty low turnout.
I mean, unfortunately, you haveone question, maybe two on the
ballot.
Um, but I would tell you ittakes one second to go vote.
So if there's any way, if youhave any personal feelings about
this, you Well, you're not ifyou you live in this city, you

(13:50):
know the issues we have.

SPEAKER_10 (13:50):
Not if you you gotta have personal feelings about
this, right?

SPEAKER_09 (13:54):
If you are 18 and older, go vote.
And you can register to vote atthe voting location as well.

SPEAKER_10 (13:58):
So again, it's gonna be Tuesday.
You're gonna vote on Tuesday.
Okay, that's Jeff to do.
Okay, so all right, now I wantedto get into a couple other
things.
Number one, we're hearing onpretty good authority.
Keller is nervous, okay?
Now, we don't have deepconnections in the Keller world.
Okay, Keller, Keller, althoughI'd like to thank him for
mentioning the humble podcast, Iknow he did mention the debate
on caricature on the Channel 13debate.

(14:18):
He did mention our podcast,which appreciate it, Mayor.
I appreciate you watching.
Um, but at the same time, we'rehearing from people close to
him, and this is second or thirdhand.
I don't want to pretend this wasa call that came directly to me.
It wasn't.
But uh, I've heard from prettygood authority, though, and the
way this stuff works, we've gotsome pretty good sources.
He's very nervous, okay?
And so you start to think.

(14:38):
Now, in a campaign like this,when you're down to the wire, as
a candidate and as a campaign,you get information in one of
two ways.
Okay.
One of them is anecdotal.
One of them is you go around,meet with voters, you get a feel
for how they feel.
Let me give you a quick example.
When we were running forgovernor, uh, we put out, uh, we
were going back and forth withRebecca Dow, kind of exchanging

(14:59):
fire, and and she was saying notso nice things about me, and I
was saying true things abouther.
So we're going back and I'm justkidding.
Uh, but we're so we were goingback and forth.
And then we put out two ads, um,kind of toward the end of the
campaign, not at the very end,not the real hard stuff, but we
put out two ads that thatbasically sunk her.
Okay.
And I could feel it in everyroom I went into.

(15:21):
All of a sudden, where where Iwould go into rooms and
occasionally get the stink eyeand she would get the oh,
Rebecca's here kind of routine.
All the old Rebecca's here wentaway.
And all of a sudden it was likeher having to answer for the ads
that we put on the air.
You could feel it in the room.
Okay, that's anecdotal.
It's not scientific data, it'sjust anecdotal.

(15:42):
So the question that I start towonder is when I heard this
about Keller, it was like, hey,he's really nervous.
So my first thought was is itanecdotal?
Okay, or is it the second wayyou get information, which is
you poll it, you find out.
Okay, you go run polls and youfigure it out and you figure out
how to message everything.
Polling is important.
I know a lot of you guys arelike, polls are always wrong and

(16:03):
everything else.
Look, there's definitely somebad polling out there, but
polling can be incrediblyvaluable in telling you where
the electorate is and how youneed to craft your message.
It is important.
And all big political campaignsdo it and they do it a lot.
So then we decide, all right,we've got to know.
Is Keller just anecdotal?
And I don't think Keller is justan anecdotal guy, to be honest

(16:24):
with you.
Um, I give him that credit.
I think he probably has realdata.
So I said, okay.
So we start looking up.
What's he been spending hismoney on?
And all this stuff is publiclyavailable.
So here's what we found out agroup associated with mayor
Keller has paid a Democraticpolling firm about$84,000 since
early November onward.
Meaning since the originalelection and then to now.

(16:48):
So what does that tell us?
I think that tells us likely themayor's probably polled two or
three times uh since theoriginal election.

SPEAKER_09 (16:57):
Okay.

SPEAKER_10 (16:57):
I think Mayor Keller has real data.
And I think he's concernedbecause he has real data.
Okay.
So now, does that mean he'sgonna lose?
No, it doesn't.
But what it means is I thinkyou've got a race here that if
enough people turn out andenough people stand up, it could
be very interesting on electionday.
So it's got that shot.
So that's some of what we got.

(17:18):
But that$84,000 is likely threepolls.
Okay.
And in a thing like Albuquerque,and the number of people you
need to pull, especially ifyou're gonna get them live on
the phone, you're gonna spend 20plus thousand at least each one.
So probably 25 to 30,000 eachone you do.

SPEAKER_09 (17:33):
Right.

SPEAKER_10 (17:33):
Right?
So that's now that's gettingpeople on the phone.
That's helpful.
That's not internet, that's notSurvey Monkey.
We're not talking about any ofthis stuff.
That stuff's a joke.
Right.
Like this is big time stuffwhere you get real information.

SPEAKER_11 (17:42):
Right.

SPEAKER_10 (17:43):
So I think Keller has real reason for concern, and
they're spending money up to thelast second.
Okay, so that tells you theydon't feel comfortable.
Give you an idea again.
Back when we ran against BenRay, uh, Chuck Schumer came in
with about$300,000 in the lastfew days of the election to
boost Ben Ray.
They didn't do that because theyjust wanted to spend money.

(18:04):
They saw the numbers and saw itwas within five points.
That was a concern to them.
Okay.
I think some of that's stillhappening in this race.
So who knows where it goes.

SPEAKER_09 (18:11):
Right.

SPEAKER_10 (18:12):
Okay.

SPEAKER_09 (18:12):
Right.
All we do know is that you youyou have to show up to vote.
Like that is, I've been tellingeverybody I know to show up and
vote because I really believethat low voter turnout is just
it's so frustrating because youknow, these guys do work hard to
try to get their messages outand they they are trying to do
it to make the city a betterplace.
And all you have to do is showup and vote.

(18:33):
Like, that's it.

SPEAKER_10 (18:34):
You do.
And in the problem we've seenthough, to your point, is that
across the nation, if we look atother races this year leading up
to this one, every indication isthis is a super heavy lift.

SPEAKER_09 (18:47):
By far.
Take a look at this the NewJersey governor's race.
Remember, we just had this backin November.
Um, and you'll see that uh, youknow, it's a 14-plus point gap.

SPEAKER_10 (18:55):
Yeah.
I mean, remember, four yearsbefore this, Jack Chitterelli
got within a couple of points ofthe incumbent governor, right?
That was when Biden was in hismidterm.
Right.
And this was Trump.
So this shows you what happenswhen you got the White House.
It is tough to run as thecandidate with the party in the
White House, and it's not justNew Jersey.

SPEAKER_09 (19:16):
Right.
Take a look at the Virginia onethat also happened again in
November.
Quite a spread here as well.
15 plus points difference uh hadyou know, voting in Abigail
Spanberger.

SPEAKER_10 (19:27):
Yeah.
And it's just And by the way,the legislature in Virginia
totally went left.
I mean big time left.
It was basically evenly dividedunder Yuncan.
Now it's two-thirds, one third.
It's bad.

SPEAKER_09 (19:39):
It's bad.

SPEAKER_10 (19:39):
It's bad.
Okay, one more race, too.

SPEAKER_09 (19:41):
Okay, so let's take a look at the Tennessee one.
This one just happened.
This was a race that happenedlast week.
And again, I believe Trump wonhere in this particular area.
This was a special election,right?
Yes, right.
The the guy that was aRepublican had decided to uh to
retire.
So they were doing a specialelection to fill his seat.
I think he won some or Trump.
It was either Trump or him thathad won by 22 points, if I

(20:02):
recall.

SPEAKER_10 (20:02):
Yeah, Trump did.

SPEAKER_09 (20:03):
Okay, Trump did.
One by 22 points.
Well, here is Matt Van Epps.
He he ran as a Republicanagainst a uh the Democratic.

SPEAKER_10 (20:10):
Yeah, Afton Ben.

SPEAKER_09 (20:11):
Yeah.
And a smaller guy.

SPEAKER_10 (20:14):
I mean, that's a much okay, that's an that's an
issue.

SPEAKER_09 (20:16):
And that's in a ri a heavy Republican area.
Yeah.
So it is kind of frighteningwhen you look at those numbers.

SPEAKER_10 (20:23):
We have to vote.
Like we are now the party of thepeople who vote occasionally.
Right.
Right?
Republicans used to be thepeople that you could always
depend on them to turn out tovote.
Right.
And now we are part of the partythat's like, eh, we'll get there
when we get there.
Yeah.
You know, and that's not goodenough.

SPEAKER_09 (20:39):
Or does it do do people think we've either got
this in the bag or maybe wedon't, we think it doesn't gonna
our vote's not gonna matter?
Like that's always what I'vetried to, I would love to know
why people don't go vote.
So if you have some insight onthat, uh, write it on a comment
and we'd love to read some ofthose because it's it's I'm
curious that you show up duringa presidential election, but on
these other ones or runoffs, Iknow it's tough and people's
schedules are busy, but it itliterally, I went to vote in,

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you know, we had a small snafu.
They actually gave me yourballot, by the way.
But uh, but they apologized andwe took care of that.
So Mark was still in the house.
I voted just fine on Saturday.
Mark was able to vote.
I did not vote on your behalf,by the way, just so you know.
But even with my snafu, I thinkit was in and out in 10 minutes.
Yeah.
So it should take you about aminute.
Yeah.
They they they run it prettyseamlessly.
So um, I would just encourageanybody to get out there.

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Okay.

SPEAKER_10 (21:24):
So yeah, and so that so that just wanted to lay that
out for you where we are.
That's the full picture of wherethis thing sits as we head into
Tuesday.
We will have a show eitherTuesday night, Wednesday
morning, somewhere in there,talking about what's going on
for those of you who've hadenough of the mayor's race.
I promise just one more showwhen we go through the the
results.
And I do want to say one otherthing that we are going to do.
Um, I'm setting up a deal now.

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We are going to poll our our I agroup that we're affiliated with
will poll after the race tofigure out why people voted the
way they did.
Because I think that's going tobe very important to know.
And I'm trying to arm twist ourpollster into coming on with us.

SPEAKER_09 (21:59):
Oh.

SPEAKER_10 (21:59):
And I think she will.

SPEAKER_09 (22:00):
You think so?

SPEAKER_10 (22:01):
I think she will.
And she is she's the best.
And so she's fascinating, and Ithink it'll be good.
It'll be a really gooddiscussion.

SPEAKER_11 (22:08):
Okay.

SPEAKER_10 (22:08):
So we'll see if she'll come on, but I'll have
the results either way, andwe'll probably have them in a
week or so, week and a half orso.
So we'll see what ends uphappening with that.

SPEAKER_09 (22:16):
Okay.

SPEAKER_10 (22:16):
Okay.

SPEAKER_09 (22:16):
All right.
So let's jump into theVenezuelan uh narcotics boat and
the story that doesn't want todie.
I mean, literally, it won't goanywhere.

SPEAKER_10 (22:25):
So we're not going to get it.
Everybody kind of knows thebasic story here.
We've got drug runners comingout of Venezuela, coming toward
the United States, and theUnited States military is
blowing up drug boats.
Okay.
Because we don't need peoplepoisoning this country and
killing our people.
Okay.
So, but what's amazing to me isthe way the media is handling
this.
I have to play a few of thesequestions for you, which I find

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to be absolutely the ignorancethat these guys operate with and
the fact that they are pushingtheir own narrative is
ridiculous.
And then we'll get into theDemocratic response and how
they're dealing with it.
But I just want you to listen tothis question from Jonathan
Berman from CNN, which could beone of the most idiotic
questions I've ever heard.

SPEAKER_03 (23:06):
Would it be legal for police in Arkansas to kill
suspected drug dealers on a boatin an overturned lake?

SPEAKER_10 (23:16):
What?
What I I'll hold on a minute.
So are you kidding me?
Is this guy uh he actuallyCotton actually I would have
kept it, but but Cotton actuallyanswered it, went back and
answered a different question.
Okay, because he's like, that'sa dumb question.
He was like, yeah, like TomCotton is so good at this, he's
like, I'm not even gonnaacknowledge that because that's
so stupid.
Yeah, it's a big thing.
I mean, if you think about it,you're interdicting terrorism.

(23:38):
Do you think we we go, you go toAfghanistan and you're like, oh,
wait a minute, don't I have toread him as Miranda rights?
No, you don't, actually.
Yeah.
I mean, and so this is ludicrousto try to say, hey, how our
domestic police force treatspeople versus how you treat
people in international waterswho are bringing in contraband

(23:59):
and terror into your country.
What are you crazy?
Yeah, they don't correlate.
It's crazy, right?
So they take these things thatdo not correlate at all, right?
And they try to compare them andsay, oh my gosh, what are you
gonna do?
You're gonna start killingpeople in Arkansas, just start
blowing them up on a lake inArkansas?
You're gonna go to the Ozarksand start blowing boats up?

SPEAKER_09 (24:15):
Well, I'm I'm glad that Tom Cotton at least was
measured enough to be like, eh,I'm not gonna talk about it.

SPEAKER_10 (24:20):
So, well, okay, so cotton, the next soundbite is
cotton as well.

SPEAKER_09 (24:23):
Yeah, so let's take a little quick question.
Uh, he he gets asked a questionby Kristen Walker.
Let's see how he responds tothis one.

SPEAKER_00 (24:34):
Why should it be different at sea?
Are you saying we should startshooting people at the border?

SPEAKER_05 (24:38):
No, I'm not sure.
We are going to a source wherewe have large-scale boats that
are trafficking hundreds, if notthousands, of pounds of drugs
that could kill thousands ofAmericans, hundreds of Arkansans
a year.
It is a highly effective andefficient way to stop these
drugs from reaching our shores.

SPEAKER_00 (24:58):
You are talking Okay.
You're gonna start with thebigger.

SPEAKER_10 (25:00):
What a ludicrous comment.
Hey, everybody lines up at theboat, you know, we find some
drugs with you, and immediatelywe're just gonna put a bullet in
your head.
I mean, what is she this?

SPEAKER_09 (25:08):
It's a f it's a common fallacy, right?
So this is what you do indebate.
This is exactly what you do indebate.
You try to ask these questionsto stunt the opponent.
It's a major fallacy.
Like it's so arguable, it'sfrightening.
It's like it's stuck built onany sort of context whatsoever.
And it's just jumping the sharkcompletely, 100%.
Like she just has dove in to tryto make this all emotional and
completely irrational uh what'sactually happening.

(25:29):
She's checking what taking therational thought out of what's
actually happening.

SPEAKER_10 (25:33):
Okay, fine.
Then I'm gonna one up you.
Oh, okay.
I'm gonna say I'll I'll takeyour Christian Roker, and I will
one up you a Jim Himescongressman, Democratic
congressman, who wants you tounderstand that you need to
understand the difficulty thatthese drug runners are going
through and you need toempathize with the drug runners.
Listen to this.

SPEAKER_06 (25:53):
Americans to see it, because look, there's a certain
amount of sympathy out there forgoing after uh drug runners.
Um, but I think it's reallyimportant that people see what
it looks like when the fullforce of the United States
military is turned on two guyswho are clinging to a piece of
wood and about to go under, uh,just so that they have sort of a
visceral feel for what it isthat we're doing.

SPEAKER_10 (26:13):
Okay, you know what you should have a visceral feel
for, Congressman, is theliterally hundreds of thousands
of people who have lost lovedones because we have too many
drugs coming into this countryand nothing is being done about
it.
But you're more worried aboutthe guy hanging on the boat
who's trying to kill people.
It's ridiculous.
And this is my problem withthese guys.
It's like they're so out oftouch and so clueless that these

(26:35):
guys come out again, hop on the20 side of an 80-20 issue
saying, Can't we look out forthe drug runners?
I mean, my God, could youimagine holding onto a piece of
wood?

SPEAKER_09 (26:42):
This is a this isn't crazy.
This is the blend between umJack and Rose from the Titanic.
Okay, he's trying to get you tohave those feelings.
I'm I'm surprised Celine Dion'snot singing in the background on
the show.

SPEAKER_10 (26:53):
I want you to know that.

SPEAKER_09 (26:53):
My heart will go on too for the drug runners.
But anyway, uh so there's that,right?
And then it also reminds me ofwhatever state rep we had that
was talking about how the thedrug runners here, the drug
dealers here needed to be ableto have guns because it's a
dangerous job to sell.
I'm right, it is.
So that's what they reallyremind you of.
I mean, what what is your areyou suddenly sympathetic to the

(27:14):
pounds of cocaine and fentanylthat these guys forget cocaine?
Well, the fentanyl is what you Imean.
It's fentanyl, but they are alsostill bringing it in cocaine.

SPEAKER_10 (27:21):
Oh, I'm sure they're bringing Coke in, too.
Because I heard a whole thingabout cocaine, but like, you
know, in all honesty, I don'tknow.
I've never I've never even seenCoke.
But but my understanding is, youknow, the difference between
Coke and fentanyl is huge,apparently.
Coke's like the healthy versionof I mean, it is unbelievable.

SPEAKER_09 (27:35):
I don't know, but I want to start singing near five.

SPEAKER_10 (27:37):
Oh, wherever you are.
Yeah, no, I get it.
Too bad.

SPEAKER_09 (27:40):
We'll get we'll get copyrighted.

SPEAKER_10 (27:41):
But here's what's so crazy about this.
And when you listen to guys likehim and you see what's happening
here, and you say, How in theworld are we in a country now
where you have congressmen outthere being like, uh, you know,
you should really understandwhat it's like to be on the
other end of the U.S.
military.
Yeah, you should.
And you know what?
You should understand what it'slike to be on the other end of
the narco state that tries tocontinue to pump poison into

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your country.
And it's about time somebodystands up and says, You're not
doing that to this countryanymore.
And if you're gonna get in aboat and head to this country
with drugs, get ready becausewe're going to try to eliminate
you.
Yeah, I have zero problem withthat.
And this guy's like, we shouldreally understand what it's like
to be, yeah, okay, clown,whatever.
Now, here's the other thing,though.
Let's go back, and I want to gointo the Wayback Machine with
our guy, Uncle Joe Biden.

SPEAKER_09 (28:24):
Oh, goodness.

SPEAKER_10 (28:25):
Uncle Joe has something to say about these
narco boats, and we brought itback from the past.
We reeled it in, and here'sUncle Joe.

SPEAKER_04 (28:34):
We think we should do more to stem the flow of
drugs across our borders, and wethink we should go one step
further.
Let's go after the drug lordswhere they live with an
international strike force.
There must be no safe haven forthese narco-terrorists, and they
must know it.

(28:54):
Amen, brother.

SPEAKER_09 (28:56):
Yeah, okay, so Ella wants us to clarify that he's
called Grandpa Joe.
Oh, we're going to Grandpa Joe?
There, he's Uncle Joe, becausethere he is.
Yeah, he was Uncle Joe.
That was what, 40 years ago?

SPEAKER_10 (29:03):
Yes, he's he's riding the train from Delaware
back to DC.
Yeah.
Uh yeah, he's he's uh he's uhUncle Joe there and yes, Els to
you he may be Grandpa Joe.

SPEAKER_09 (29:12):
Yeah, but anyway, the point it just shows the
shift.

SPEAKER_10 (29:15):
It shows you where the party used to be.
Yes.
They used to be a sane party whowould disagree with Republicans
on all sorts of things, butunderstood how to protect us.
Yeah, and now it's like, well,no, no, no, no.
And you see this other guy, andyou're like, who are you, dude?
And and what is happening, andthis is the part of this that
becomes existential when youstart looking at politics.
And you start saying, Well,well, I can't seem to identify

(29:37):
with the other side.
I can't seem to understand wherethey're coming from.
And so that's the part of thisthat I think is is crazy.
It's it's a wild issue.
Uh, and I think obviously it'snot over yet.
And the whole Venezuela thing isis far from over because I do
think there's going to be moreaction in Venezuela, no doubt.

SPEAKER_09 (29:54):
Oh, for sure.
That's what we're seeing.
Okay, well, so some good news,at least on the economy side of
things, we do see that gas iscoming down, right?
So there's this a little graphhere that we've put together
that shows the drop.

SPEAKER_11 (30:06):
We stole it, actually.
Oh, we stole this one?
We stole this one then.

SPEAKER_09 (30:09):
So don't give us credit for it.
But uh we don't build graphs,apparently.
Yeah, at least not this one.
Not this one.
Okay, but you see that the gasprice now is down to about$299 a
gallon.

SPEAKER_10 (30:19):
Yep.

SPEAKER_09 (30:19):
Um, and this is just a quick comparison from the last
three years or so.

SPEAKER_10 (30:22):
So yeah, it's the lowest rate we've had since
2022.
Okay, so that's critical becausethat stuff goes downhill, right?
The cheaper it is to fill up atruck with gas, the cheaper it
is to get you the supplies orgoods that you want.

SPEAKER_09 (30:35):
And hopefully so, right?
Hopefully, because there's likethe the grocery stores, it's
really hard for them.
And we've talked about thisbefore.
When the marketplace startsdemanding more for product, it
takes a long time for them tolower those costs again.
It's like they they're like, oh,the consumers paid for it.
So I guess this is a good sweetspot for us.

SPEAKER_10 (30:53):
And so some of that is dangerous too, because some
of it takes a while to it doestake a while, but ultimately the
response of supply and demand inthe free market will bring those
numbers down.
Yeah.
Again, the more you introducethe government into this to try
to regulate exactly how thatstuff happens, the worse it
gets, I think.
Right.
But yeah, that's a possibility.

(31:14):
You know, we'll see whathappens.
But but the point being in allthis is so those numbers come
down.
That's definitely directlyattributable to some of the
approach that the Trumpadministration has taken.
But there are still walls toclimb here.
And an article from the WallStreet Journal shows that.

SPEAKER_09 (31:28):
Yeah, the headline here at the Wall Street Journal
says Trump's team wages campaignto shift his focus to high
prices.
During closed doors meetings inrecent weeks, the president's
top aides have pressed him tocollaborate his message or
calibrate his message onaffordability.

SPEAKER_10 (31:43):
Yeah, and some of his pushback has been look, he's
like, some of this is phony.
It's a media creation.
I think that's a dangerousapproach and a bad one.
And he shouldn't be doing that.
And his own people are tellinghim, don't do that.
Biden did that and it didn'twork, and it's a bad call.
And on the other side, whatthey're starting to do now is to
say, look, we came in to thiswhole thing, as far as the

(32:04):
presidency, with a lot to makeup for because of what happened
during the Biden administration.
So, so what they're trying tosell the president on basically
is look, you got to be patientwith this, you got to be
relentless with it, and you gotto talk about the challenges
we're trying to overcome.
And then here's the things thatwe're doing.
They have to do this.
And then also they've got to getresults, right?
Scott Besson has been coming outsaying, look, results are going

(32:25):
to get better.
Things are going to get better.
We're seeing that wages aregoing up more than inflation is
going up.
We're seeing things improve.
We'll wait and see.
There are plenty of Americans, Ithink, who don't feel that way.
And it's completelyunderstandable.
So we'll see how it shakes out.
But Trump definitely has had tobe convinced that he cannot
basically ignore this or call ita conspiracy theory.

(32:48):
It's not, clearly.
And I think there, and there'ssome people with some good
suggestions on how he shoulddeal with it.

SPEAKER_09 (32:52):
Yeah, Scott Jennings, one of our, you know,
the guy we always love to showfrom the CNN, he always just
kind of is this voice of hisCNN.

SPEAKER_10 (32:59):
The CNN.

SPEAKER_09 (32:59):
It's like the Facebook.
Uh he's very, he definitely uhappeals to the conservative
movement side.
And I think he gives a nicevoice to that.
So take a listen to this, justtalking about what Trump's gonna
have to do to kind of avoidthese electoral disasters in
2026 with all these midtermsthat are coming up.
So take a look at this.

SPEAKER_02 (33:17):
Election year, the top issue is gonna be the
economy.
He's the party's best spokesmangoing out on the road and
talking about what he's done,drawing a bright line between uh
our plan, his plan versus thedisaster that was the Biden
years.
You know, you don't want to goback to the we're in a deep
hole.
We got he inherited a deep hole.
Do you want to go back to thepeople with the shovels, or do
you want to go to the person andlet the person building the

(33:38):
ladder who's trying to get youout?
That's kind of the argument thatonly really he can make on
behalf of the party.

SPEAKER_09 (33:44):
Nice analogy by Scott.
I like that.

SPEAKER_10 (33:46):
Yeah, you like the digging the hole.

SPEAKER_09 (33:47):
Yeah, dig in the hole or getting on the ladder.

SPEAKER_10 (33:49):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_09 (33:49):
That's a good one.

SPEAKER_10 (33:50):
No, it it it cannot be ignored.
And that's the part of thisthing that is so critical.
And it's gonna be one of thosethings that if if the economy
demonstrably improves and peoplefeel that improvement, then I
think you're gonna see less ofan issue.
But if if they don't feel it,it's 2026 is gonna be a rough
go.
The Senate's not gonna changehands.
However, the House definitelywill if something, you know,

(34:12):
something isn't, you know,addressed and something doesn't
change.
Okay.
It's hard.
I mean, just think about it.
I mean, you're still seeingcosts rising and things like
that.
And a lot of things are beingdone, but it doesn't mean
there's enough.
And and to try to think that,you know, it's amazing how
politics just, you know, itpushes both sides to do some of
the same dumb things.
You know, you watch one side doit, you're like, oh, you guys
are morons, and then all of asudden the other side does it,

(34:33):
and you're like, oh, morons, youknow.
Yeah.
So the ignoring the economy andwhat's happening with it is a
massive mistake.
And by the way, and uh justgetting back to one thing before
we go to a another nationalstory, reading through the
journal on Sunday, veryinteresting.
Didn't see the same tone I sawthe Sunday before.

SPEAKER_09 (34:50):
Really?

SPEAKER_10 (34:51):
Yes.

SPEAKER_09 (34:51):
Okay, yes.
So what what did you what shiftdid you see?

SPEAKER_10 (34:54):
Uh well, there was a big uh endorsement article uh
from our friend Jeff Tucker.
Okay, uh, from the editorialboard.
He he did a big old endorsementfor for Darren White.
Um, and there were some otherthings in there that, you know,
but there was not this kind oflarge coordinated push towards
Keller.
Yeah, which there was rightbefore early voting.

(35:15):
Interesting.

SPEAKER_09 (35:15):
But anyway, who sure if you want to see hear more
about that, you can watch ourlast Sunday show.
Yeah, definitely.

SPEAKER_10 (35:20):
Which definitely got uh got the reins put on it by
our friends who host our now,not on the podcast front.
Right.
For those of you who justlisten, it was it was a very
successful show.
Uh for those of you who watch,uh, less successful from our
friends who host the show, whichthey pulled that thing way back.

SPEAKER_09 (35:36):
Yeah, we're still trying to figure out why they
throttled their show so much.
But again, if you're looking tofind our show, we appreciate
those of you that are listeningout there.
Um just tell your friends aboutit and sh share the word.
And if you I hate if you have togo in there and actually type in
no doubt about it to find us,but you might have to do that on
days that they don't like ourcontent, right?
Because don't make it readilyavailable.

SPEAKER_10 (35:56):
Yeah, and I don't know if it was the sweatshirt
gate or what, but it wassomething that got it very much
um pulled back as much as anyepisode in two years for us.

SPEAKER_09 (36:04):
Oh, by far.
It was it was crazy.
We're like, we didn't doanything that was.

SPEAKER_10 (36:07):
By the way, we were we were we were sizzling on that
episode too.

SPEAKER_09 (36:10):
I mean cool was so yeah, go back if you didn't get
to see that one, go back andwatch that one from from just
this week because it was it wasreally solid.
So we're not sure why it wasthrottled, but go back and look
at it.

SPEAKER_10 (36:19):
So there you go.

SPEAKER_09 (36:20):
Take a look.
Okay, tell us about this thisokay.
So um And you hope that theCowboys pick him up, I'm
assuming.

SPEAKER_10 (36:25):
Um you know, I'll tell you, I think Dak's having a
great year, but I do like thiskid a lot.

SPEAKER_09 (36:31):
Okay.

SPEAKER_10 (36:32):
I like him personally, and I've watched
some of his games, and um, Ithink he's got some talent.
And where is he playing from?
Sorry.
He's from the he goes, so he'sthe quarterback for the
University of Indiana.
His name is Fernando Mendoza.
Okay.
Uh big kid, done a good job.
So Indiana, uh, they were kindof the doormat uh of the Big Ten
forever, right?

(36:52):
They were never any, they werenever Michigan, they were never
Ohio State, they could never getthere.
Then they get this new coach,Kurt Signetti, a couple years
ago.
And, you know, Fernando Mendozatakes over.
They end up playing in the BigTen championship game, or is it
the Big 12?
I don't know what they whateverit's called, whatever the
division is now.
They they go play Ohio State uhto for the championship.

(37:13):
And again, this just leads tothe college football playoffs.
So now we're just getting intothe college football playoff,
and both teams would have goneto the playoff.
But these guys went out and beatOhio State, who was undefeated,
and they were undefeated thisyear.
Oh, wow.
And I want you to listen to hissound.
So I've heard him do otherinterviews before, and he wasn't
this amped up, okay?
But what he does, first of all,he thanks God in such a sweet

(37:33):
and meaningful way.
And then you just listen to himgive this interview.
You just realize these are kids.
Like you realize these are kids,and and he's just so fired up.
So just listen to FernandoMendoza.

SPEAKER_08 (37:45):
Jens Indiana, the Big Ten Champs.
How does that sound?

SPEAKER_07 (37:50):
It sounds so beautiful.
I want to give all the glory toGod.
We were never supposed to be inthis position, but by the glory
of God, the great coaches, greatteammates, everybody have around
us.
We were able to pull this off.
Whoever's not the hood should behere, but now the losers are
flipping champs.
Let's go!

SPEAKER_11 (38:09):
Come on, he's not done yet.

SPEAKER_08 (38:10):
Why was this the right place for this group?

SPEAKER_07 (38:12):
It's the right place for process oriented.
We're going day by day.
What is the offensive line, thedefense, the coaches, special
teams?
We're all process oriented toone goal.
That's our thing, is we'rebrothers.
We can drag teams into thedefense because we know that
we're gonna stick together andwe're the strongest blue ever.

SPEAKER_08 (38:28):
Tell me about finding Charlie Becker, third
down, four to go.
We talk about Heisman moments,but take me through that one.

SPEAKER_07 (38:35):
Man, what an incredible Charlie's been but
he's been every single day insummer.
We were always thrilled beforepractice, before at 7 a.m.
on Sundays, doing spots, doingroutes.
And now you see it to come tofruition.
He's my roommate, couldn't behappy for such a young man as
well, as well as our defenseplaying lights out.
And well, everybody just what anincredible moment.

SPEAKER_11 (38:56):
Okay, so he's just it's so great.

SPEAKER_09 (38:58):
I mean, it's very authentic.
I we're super authentic.
As a teacher, I I so I teachobviously public speaking,
right?
And so, like, I would give himlike an A for energy.
I'd be like, dude, your energyis high.
I love it.
I love that you started strong.
We've got to work on your tone alittle bit because your tone
came out a little hot.
Yeah, it came a little high,came a little high.
It came a little hot, andsomebody was like, oh, it's just
a little bit.

SPEAKER_10 (39:19):
And uh but it just shows you like you can see the
core of this guy, right there.
Oh, for sure.
Thanking God, and he's done thisbefore.
He's very much a Christ followerand a really good kid.
And you just see someone actlike that and the joy because
you know how much work he putinto it, right?
And how much he cares about it.
And it's just such a cool.
It was sweet.

SPEAKER_09 (39:37):
He was very sweet.
Yeah, so hard up.

SPEAKER_10 (39:40):
He's got a chance to be a good NFL quarterback.
We'll see.
I don't know.
I he has a chance to win theHeisman.
We'll see.
This wasn't the biggest game forhim, right?
Like it was a close game, it wasreally low scoring.
So we'll see what ends uphappening with him.
He's a he's a just seems like,but he kind of shows his age,
like he shows he's a 20-year-oldkid.
Like you just kind of see it.

SPEAKER_09 (39:58):
But I do love his interview.
He was fired up and he wasn'ttoo cool for school, which I
also genuinely super pumpedabout it.

SPEAKER_10 (40:06):
Yeah, if you're an NFL fan, start paying attention.
Your team needs a quarterback.
Fernando Mendoza could be theanswer.
I think he's going to be a topfive pick.

SPEAKER_09 (40:13):
It's not the Cowboys, you're saying.

SPEAKER_10 (40:15):
I would not mind that.
I just don't think the Cowboyswill be in position to pick him.

SPEAKER_09 (40:18):
Oh, wow.

SPEAKER_10 (40:19):
Yeah, they'll I think he'll be gone before they
get a chance.

SPEAKER_09 (40:21):
You think so?
So what are we doing so well?
The Cowboys are doing well?

SPEAKER_10 (40:24):
No, but I think he's a top five.
I think he's a top five pick.
And the Cowboys won't pick untilprobably pick 15, 16.
Oh, if they don't make theplayoffs, if they do, but
they'll be in the mid-20s.

SPEAKER_09 (40:32):
Okay.

SPEAKER_10 (40:33):
So I don't think they'll get him.
Okay, okay, here we go.

SPEAKER_09 (40:36):
So we've not seen the game camp footage.
Uh Ella and I have not beenallowed to watch it because
Mark's very excited about it.
Yes, yes.

SPEAKER_10 (40:42):
So I've got three different pieces of footage
here.
Okay.
Okay.
First of all, um, it's gonna,we're gonna do uh a shot of a
deer, and then we're gonna haveyou guys play a little game, and
then I'm gonna show you thevideo of the week.
Okay.
Okay.
All right.
First one, this, this, this deeris just a bull.
Look at the size.

SPEAKER_09 (41:01):
He's beautiful.
Oh, he is beautiful.
He's got a bunch of snow on hisface.

SPEAKER_10 (41:04):
Oh, he's unbelievable.
Else, let's go.
We'll get a little shot of him.

SPEAKER_09 (41:06):
That's a perfect winter shot.
Look at all the beautiful snowthat's come in.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_10 (41:10):
Oh, I know.
We got snow up there.
Yeah, we got some snow thisweek.
Look at them.

SPEAKER_09 (41:15):
He's cool.
He looks like he's straight outof an ad, right?

SPEAKER_10 (41:17):
Oh, he is.
I mean, he's good looking,right?

SPEAKER_09 (41:19):
He's like a movie deer.
Yeah, he is a movie deer.

SPEAKER_10 (41:22):
We're gonna go pull the faceplate off him, and
you'll see that he's actuallyanimatronic.

SPEAKER_09 (41:27):
He has an agent over there on the side that says go
and walk in front of the gamecamera, Mike.
We'll get you discovered.

SPEAKER_10 (41:30):
There we go.

SPEAKER_09 (41:31):
We're gonna get you discovered for the big film.
As they should have.

SPEAKER_10 (41:33):
All right, Els, Mike up here for a sec.

SPEAKER_09 (41:35):
Okay.

SPEAKER_10 (41:35):
Okay, you're there.
All right.
So here's what I want you to do.
We're gonna play this for youtwo, okay?
I want you to identify theanimal walking with the glowing
eyes toward the camera.
Whoever and whoever names itfirst wins.
Okay.
What do we want?

SPEAKER_09 (41:52):
What do we win?

SPEAKER_10 (41:52):
Uh you you're gonna win a pat on the back.

SPEAKER_09 (41:56):
Um, I know.
Okay, lunch.

SPEAKER_10 (41:59):
Winner gets lunch.
I'll bring you lunch to whereveryou are tomorrow.

SPEAKER_09 (42:02):
Okay.
Okay.
But I I'll be here.

SPEAKER_10 (42:04):
Have you seen you'll be at school, right, Ella?

SPEAKER_09 (42:07):
Yeah, but I leave for lunch.

SPEAKER_10 (42:08):
Well, I'll I'll get you whatever you want.

SPEAKER_08 (42:10):
Okay, yeah.
All right, fine.

SPEAKER_10 (42:11):
All right, now, Els, you have not seen the video,
right?

SPEAKER_08 (42:13):
No, I have not seen the video.

SPEAKER_10 (42:14):
Okay, so let's we're gonna put this up.
Okay, good.
Let's put this up and Els hitplay, and the first one with the
correct answer wins.
Here we go.
There are the eyes.
You see them glowing.

SPEAKER_08 (42:24):
No.

SPEAKER_10 (42:24):
There's a there's an eye, there's two sets of eyes
right there glowing in thecamera.

SPEAKER_08 (42:28):
Dude, I don't know what that is.

SPEAKER_10 (42:30):
They're coming in.

SPEAKER_08 (42:33):
Wolf.
It's a wolf.

SPEAKER_10 (42:34):
You going wolf?

SPEAKER_08 (42:35):
Well, hold on.
No, they're deer.
No, Ella gets it! Couple oflittle deer.
Are they little?

SPEAKER_10 (42:42):
Are they little?
I I think they're a couple does.
You can't totally tell becauseit's cuts off after 15 seconds.

SPEAKER_09 (42:47):
I'm sorry, how do you even know that was a deer?
Oh, you can tell when that's it.

SPEAKER_10 (42:50):
She does.
It definitely is.
You can see it at the end.
But see, when I got when I waswatching this video and I got to
right here, I was like, oh mygosh, what is this?
I thought it was a couplemountain lions.
I didn't see it.
And it was clearly just a coupleof deer, but it's very cute.

unknown (43:04):
Okay.

SPEAKER_10 (43:04):
Very cute.

SPEAKER_09 (43:05):
Small deer.
I I thought it was a wolf.
I got excited.
All right.

SPEAKER_10 (43:08):
Yep.
Okay, so here we go.
So now this last one.
So two nights ago, um, weretired for the evening.
You always fall asleep first.

SPEAKER_09 (43:16):
Yes.

SPEAKER_10 (43:16):
So I checked.
I check because all these videoscome.

SPEAKER_09 (43:20):
Pegesterone, by the way.
That's the magic trick for theladies over a certain age.
And uh, if you're not onprogesterone, I highly recommend
it if you like this.

SPEAKER_10 (43:26):
I didn't think this was the direction we were going.
Um just a little plug for HRT.
Okay, keep quite okay.
Good call.
Um, so I I I you know log on tomy my uh account for Multri
Mobile, and I and I see thishappen and I see this come
across, and I literally woke youup because I was like, holy cow,
look at this.
So here is the video.

(43:49):
And this is a massive, in thethe biggest mountain lion I've
ever seen.

SPEAKER_09 (43:54):
He is enormous.

SPEAKER_10 (43:56):
Look at the size of him.
We'll go back.

SPEAKER_09 (43:59):
I was like, I mean, it almost looks like a real
lion, just like a lion.

SPEAKER_10 (44:03):
I mean, he's I don't know if it's a like I thought, I
thought, is this a female that'spregnant?
Is this stop it right there?
I mean, look how thick thismountain lion is.

SPEAKER_09 (44:15):
Gosh almighty.
I don't even, and I here's thething.
You woke me up to show this tome, and I was like, this is
terrifying.
I I did not want to see it tostart with, and now we're
slow-mowing the guy.
Yeah.
Um, because it's just so closeto where uh we are when we're up
there.

SPEAKER_10 (44:30):
Yes.
That I mean, you look him rightat the camera and you see those
glowing eyes, and then he'shuge.
Yeah, he's just massive.
Stop right there.
Else, come on now.

unknown (44:40):
Back it up, back it up.

SPEAKER_10 (44:42):
Yeah, just massive.

SPEAKER_09 (44:43):
I love that you were like, well, maybe he just ate
dinner and that's why he's sobig.
I'm like, I don't think it workslike that.
I don't think you just expandwhen you have one meal.

SPEAKER_10 (44:50):
Well, then I know, but his belly would be nice and
full.
I don't know.
But this is just, I mean, he'sgorgeous.
Yeah, they're beautiful.

SPEAKER_09 (44:56):
I mean, how much do you think that guy weighs right
there?
300 pounds?

SPEAKER_10 (44:58):
No, not quite that much, probably.
But probably, you know, 180,200.

SPEAKER_09 (45:02):
Jeez.
Yeah, which is for a lot ofanything bigger than uh this
little buck on the table is toobig for me when it comes to
mountain lions.
No question.
No, no doubt.
None of that.
All right, no doubt about that.
Okay, so we will be joining youguys back here either Tuesday
night or Wednesday at somepoint, right?
That's kind of our game planbecause of the mayoral election

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