LA Ablaze: When Leadership Fuels the Fire Instead of Fighting It

🎙️ In This Episode:

🚨 Riots Erupt Over ICE Raids in Los Angeles

• Violent riots broke out in LA as ICE conducted raids—and shockingly, Democratic leaders are siding with the rioters.
• Mark breaks down why this is a huge mistake and why you can’t have a country if you can’t enforce its laws.
• The more Democrats defend lawbreakers instead of supporting Trump’s efforts to secure the country, the more they’re alienating everyday Americans.

🛂 Another Twist in the “Maryland Man” Saga

• We’ve got an update on the story of Abrego Garcia, the “Maryland Man” seeking a return to the U.S.
• Let’s just say it’s not going the way he—or his defenders—had hoped.

🏅 Simone Biles vs. Riley Gaines—What Is Biles Thinking?

• Why did Simone Biles come out in favor of men competing in women’s sports—and why would she call Riley Gaines a “sore loser”?
• Krysty breaks it all down and asks the question many Americans are thinking: If Biles never had to compete against men, why should today’s female athletes have to?

🚗 Is the Future of the Family Road Trip Changing?

• Ella Ronchetti joins the show to give her take on what family car travel is going to look like in the coming decades.
• The answer: It’s going to be a whole lot different than the road trips we grew up on!

🛬 The Most Turbulent Airports in America

• We’ve got the latest list of the most turbulent airports to land at in the U.S.
• Is Albuquerque (ABQ) on the list? You might be surprised.

🐘 And Finally… An Elephant in a Grocery Store

• You won’t believe this must-see video of an elephant that got stuck in a grocery store in Thailand.
• Yes, it really happened—and we’ve got the footage.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 2 (00:04):
All right, no doubt about it Podcast.
It's blowing up in LA right now.

Speaker 3 (00:10):
Well, yeah.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
Unbelievable.

Speaker 3 (00:12):
Ridiculous in LA.
I'm so glad I'm not inCalifornia today or this weekend
.

Speaker 2 (00:17):
Well, we are going to get to it, and we'll explain
why.
I think it's being made worseby our leaders, who are doing
everything they can instead oftrying to, you know, bring
everybody together on this andtry to create some sense of a
path forward, just throwinglighter fluid on everything.

Speaker 3 (00:33):
Right, there's no sense of calming it down.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
Oh no, there's no doubt about that.
So we'll get to that, and we'realso going to get to a couple
other things.
New polling data's out.
We'll talk about that.
Brago Garcia, the.

Speaker 3 (00:45):
Maryland man is getting his wish.
Wish, he's coming back.
He's coming back everybody, buthow long will he last?

Speaker 2 (00:48):
well, it's the thing.
It was a significant mistake.
It was interesting to read someof the legal opinion on this
from lawyers who were like hislawyers absolutely destroyed him
because of the way they handledthis.
So we'll see how that ends uphappening.
Simone Biles jumps out, decidesshe wants to get into the whole
men and women's sports fight,and it turned out to be a spicy

(01:10):
one.
Let's just say that.
And then we've got a coupleother key things the way you
travel in your car is going tobe changing, and a visitor to a
Thai grocery store that you haveto see to believe.

Speaker 3 (01:22):
Okay, all right.
Well, yeah, and it is a smokinghot here, by the way.
I mean is this going to?
Is it going to cool off at all?

Speaker 2 (01:29):
It is actually Monday and Tuesday got another chance
for more rain on the way, so weare going to get wet again.
It looks like especially overmountain sections, but it looks
like some decent moisture acrossthe state Again.
We have dodged a major bulletthis spring, there's no question
.
So we're getting ready to hitsummer here, and usually May
June those are our worst firemonths, even into summer July.
So far we have done very wellfor moisture and escaped major,

(01:53):
major problems to this point.

Speaker 3 (01:54):
Well, I just need to escape some of the heat because
I, you know, I do a lot ofwalking and I'm doing my
weighted vest now.

Speaker 2 (01:59):
Yeah, the weighted vest is just like a first world
thing, like I don't have enoughproblems, put a weighted vest is
just like a first world thing.
Like I don't have enoughproblems, put a weighted vest on
me and the one thing I will say, by the way, next week, next
Sunday, monday could hit ahundred in Albuquerque though
there's no weighted vest whenit's a hundred degrees, We'll
see what happens.
I mean, look you bought theweighted vest, you got to wear
it.

Speaker 3 (02:16):
I don't want to tell you Not in the heat I on me when
I yeah, by the way why not justcarry a bag of potatoes?

Speaker 2 (02:23):
you don't need to go buy some weighted vest from
amazon.
They cost 70 bucks to send itto you it's not 70 dollars.

Speaker 3 (02:28):
By the way, I don't buy anything on amazon for 70
bucks just just go get a jug ofwater on amazon.

Speaker 2 (02:33):
I mean, what are you trying to do here, just?

Speaker 3 (02:34):
what?
Get a piece of rope and tie itaround my waist I know it's like
you're listening.
If you're a middle-aged womannow, apparently you need to
drink creatine, eat a thousandmillion calories of protein yes
and wear a weighted vest whenyou walk in 100 degree
temperature that's right thoseare those the rules that's the
new, it's basically a full-timejob to be a middle-aged woman
just to be just to staymiddle-aged heck, yeah, it is I

(02:54):
guess that's what I'm doing yeah, it's great, it's.

Speaker 2 (02:57):
Oh yeah, it's great, all right it is.
It's quite a trend so I'm notdonating that way.

Speaker 3 (03:01):
Well, or just go old school and get the old ankle
weights that they used to strapthose on oh, I had those and
walk around with those things.
I had the weighted because Ithink you need the compounded.

Speaker 2 (03:08):
I'm still trying to figure out why I'm wearing a
weighted vest by the way itwould appear to be more evenly
distributed than the old ankleweights.

Speaker 3 (03:14):
Yeah, I'm still trying to figure it without the
weighted vest.
Again, again, you're making mypoint, not yours.

Speaker 2 (03:27):
So all right.
So let's go ahead and get to acouple of quick emails.

Speaker 3 (03:30):
Okay, so a couple of quick emails coming in.
We we basically blew up withBigfoot.

Speaker 2 (03:35):
Oh yeah, your Bigfoot story yeah.

Speaker 3 (03:37):
We had so many comments I was like, okay, I'll
just pick a couple here.
But resi says uh, you cityfolks are a hoot.
We've known about bigfoot, uh,quite a while.
I think is what they're saying.
Of course we'll never get apicture, I think is what they're
talking about because uh, we'retoo slow, yeah, trying to take
their pictures.

Speaker 2 (03:53):
That's probably true.

Speaker 3 (03:54):
I mean, that's a good point plus in and out of the
portal.

Speaker 2 (03:56):
Yeah, in and out of the portal.
You're not going to get apicture of them oh my gosh,
that's how it works.

Speaker 3 (04:01):
I want people to know that you don't actually believe
that you don't, you can't provethat I mean people are writing
you saying does mark reallybelieve formal of travel for big
fight?

Speaker 2 (04:11):
well, how else do you explain it?

Speaker 3 (04:13):
um, a guy in a gorilla suit for crying out loud
, okay, well, seriously all,right all right, okay.
Susan wrote in and said I wouldlike to hear more about your
experiences running for office.
We did talk quite a bit aboutour our when it's appropriate at
different times.

Speaker 2 (04:27):
Uh, susan, so that's what we try to do is like, if it
, if it is something that thatapplies to what we're talking
about and we can add somethingin, we will.
I don't like just talking aboutfor no reason.
It's like some trauma responsefrom me.
I'm like, oh my God.

Speaker 3 (04:39):
But uh, we've shared a lot of stories over over the
time and, honestly, like, Ithink it's like episode two or
four or five it's it's under 10.
It's early, early days.
We went into a lot of detailabout your campaign.

Speaker 2 (04:53):
Yeah, and we'll go back as soon as we get into
election season and next yearand everything else, we will
definitely add things in hereand there that I think can be
helpful.
It's just, it's funny becausewhen you listen to a lot of
people who haven't lived itbefore and don't know that
there's just, there are justcertain rules that apply.
There's certain forces ofgravity and politics that don't

(05:14):
appear to be easily grasped justfrom the surface, like if
you're just looking at things.
Me too, I mean.

Speaker 3 (05:21):
I would have no idea.

Speaker 2 (05:23):
Absolutely.
And then then you startrealizing some of the things
that happen and you're like oh,then you realize where some of
the rules are.
And then you talk to certainpeople and you realize they know
a lot about these sorts ofthings and we try to bring those
people on to you.
Jay is a great example of that.
Jay McClough is a great exampleof that.
A guy just knows that thatworld, versus the guy just
sitting around going well, Ithink that this guy's going to
be awesome, or this woman's good, no one's going to stop her.

(05:45):
You know, and you're like uh,no wrong.
And then, or or you'reabsolutely right.
You know, it just depends.
But a lot of times people endup being right about politics
for the wrong reasons, right,they?
They end up saying, well, youcan't win, and then you're like
but they don't understand themillion things that happen, that
go into how that all works out.
So we try to give you as muchinformation as we can.
We'll keep doing that.

Speaker 3 (06:04):
Well, it's funny because I was listening to
Ruthless podcast last week andthey were talking about just
that that the two things thatpeople like to commentate from
the couch on sports.
They're experts on coaching,right.
Any sort of professional sportsand politics, he said those are
the two things that most peoplewho have no idea about either
one of those say a lot of thingson social media about it.
Right, just tweet whatever theywant or just have very strong

(06:27):
opinions about things andfeelings about people or players
or coaches or whatever.

Speaker 2 (06:31):
No, it's exactly right, absolutely no and
sometimes you're right and youjust have no idea why you were
right.
Right, so it'll be like it'd be, like me saying you know, oh,
you know, there's no way thatTony Romo should be, you know,
starting to no way Dak Prescottbe, and I don't have any idea
what's going on in the buildingand I could end up being right
about whatever it is, I justhave no idea why.

Speaker 3 (06:49):
Right.

Speaker 2 (06:49):
And I ended up stumbling onto it, so it's just
kind of interesting to gothrough that.
You're right, politics isdefinitely everybody's got an
opinion on.
Oh, this is going to work, thatisn't going to work, this is
what you got to do, and it amillion times.
On this show, too, your successor failure as a candidate
likely will come down tosomething that's completely and
totally out of your control, sothere's no way you could have
ever won.

(07:09):
That's not true.
Like you just didn't know whatwe were looking at.
And actually you know therewere a series of events that
occurred and why we didn't, andthere are other candidates, very
similar things that happen, andthere are some candidates just
have no chance, no matter whatyou know, and you can say, oh,
they got a great shot, they'regonna.
No, they don't like.

Speaker 3 (07:24):
You, just know it like it is weird now that you
kind of once you've been in it,like even just me, just I mean,
I didn't wasn't a candidate, butI was just part of the
campaigns for so long that I can, I feel like I have a really
good, uh, sense of knowing, likewhat people need to be able to
win and who who's not going tohave a real shot, and you never
want to say you have no shot,but you can kind of tell Like

(07:46):
this person's not going to haveany shot, because I know what
they're going to be up against.
only in our state I mean, Icouldn't speak to that like in,
necessarily like Arizona,colorado.

Speaker 2 (07:54):
Well, you can sometimes in national politics,
like, for example, when this isa guy we spoke to during the
campaign a little bit LarryHogan, the governor of Maryland
right, everybody said you know,does Larry Hogan have a chance
to get the Republican nomination?
The answer is absolutely not.
Like Larry Hogan could neverhave gotten the Republican
nomination, chris Christie couldnever have gotten the

(08:14):
Republican nomination.
You have to know who theelectorate is and who they're
trying to elect Middle of theroad.
Republicans do not win thoseraces, they just don't.
Okay, that's just how it works,all right, and so there's no
constituency for that.
So there's a lot of people inthe middle that don't vote in
primaries that tell you oh yeah,I don't know, they got a real
shot.
I really like them, okay, well,guess what?

(08:35):
You're not voting and you neverdo.
Hey, independent guy, who'sgoing to carry everyone to
victory?
Those guys don't vote inprimaries.
Okay, you can get some of themto vote, but you're not going to
get enough to make a difference.
So that's just one of thosethings, but anyway, okay.

Speaker 3 (08:48):
Now Joe said love the banter.
Well, joe, you got an earfulalready.

Speaker 2 (08:52):
So thank you so much.
Just tell Chrissy to pipe itdown, okay, sorry.

Speaker 3 (08:55):
Thanks, joe, for writing that.
Okay.
And then the Atomic Mom.
Thank you, the Atomic Mom,thank you.
Thank you for writing in.
This was about my fair life.

Speaker 2 (09:02):
Yes.

Speaker 3 (09:02):
Core power, my protein drink that I drink
almost every single morning.
You bashed it.
Well, not you, but you broughtin an article that bashed it,
yeah, saying it wasn't good forme.

Speaker 5 (09:11):
Yes.

Speaker 3 (09:12):
But the Atomic Mom wrote in.
She said about your fair life,core power drink.
It's not as bad as the seedsholes, cotton seed holes and
silage.

Speaker 2 (09:24):
I think that's how you say it yeah, silage yeah.

Speaker 3 (09:25):
The corn and soy the cows are fed is not sweet corn
that you eat with a meal.
It's feed corn that is grown tofeed animals.
The cows are fed corn and soy.
Silage, which is the wholeplant stock, leaves, cobs and
soybean.
It's amazing that cows can takeplant material and the

(09:47):
byproducts of agricultural, eatthis and then turn it into milk
for us to consume.
Carrageenine, which is thethickening agent we talked about
, is actually made out ofseaweed.
It's perfectly safe.
I would be wary of any articlethat says that it might be safe.
What does that exactly mean andwhere is the primary source or
study that makes this claim?

Speaker 4 (09:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (10:00):
I can't remember the name.
Do you remember where youpulled that article from?

Speaker 2 (10:02):
I do not, I'm sorry, but Atomic Mom offering a little
solace for the ladies in theroom.

Speaker 3 (10:08):
Atomic Mom making me feel good about still drinking
my Atomic.
I mean my Atomic.
I'm going to call it the AtomicPowerful.

Speaker 2 (10:13):
Thanks to the.

Speaker 3 (10:14):
Atomic Mom, so thank you so much for that.

Speaker 2 (10:16):
That was good.
Let's jump into this LA madness.
I mean, fell apart over there,right?
So there's a lot of protestinggoing on with what's going on
with ICE and they're turningvery violent, okay, and so I
want to talk about this, but Iwant to make a broader point.
So I want to start with notactually what is going on, but
what is being said about what isgoing on.

(10:37):
So there is a representativefrom California, named
representative of Berrigan, andshe talked about what is
happening with these protests.
Now it's beyond comedy that sheis saying this.
She you're going to hear hersay it's nonviolent, and then
you're going to see burningvehicles, just like in the shot
on CNN.

(10:57):
So I want you to just listen toher first, and I'm going to
give you about three or fourexamples of this and why I think
it is so damaging and likely tomake things worse before they
get better.

Speaker 3 (11:06):
So just listen to this from CNN and make sure
you're explaining this, becausewith people that just listen,
they don't see like they justhear her but they don't see the
madness that's actually beingshown.

Speaker 2 (11:15):
Right, we'll get to that in a second, but just even
what she says, right?
What I care most about, justlisten to what she says about
this.
And yeah, for those of you thatare watching, there's a burning
car in the shower.
But let's just get to that.
Here's what she said.

Speaker 4 (11:28):
We are having an administration that's targeting
peaceful protests, people thatare there to protest.
The president is sending theNational Guard because he
doesn't like the scenes.
He doesn't like the scenes ofpeople peacefully protesting.

Speaker 2 (11:40):
OK, here's part of your problem.
When your congressional leaderscome out and say things that
are just demonstrably a lie, youstart looking at them going
what are you doing?
What is this Like?
How do we trust you?
How do we trust anything that'ssaid anymore?
And this is what so many peopleare confused because our
leaders come out and they justflat out say things that are in

(12:02):
direct opposition to the truth.
So Gavin Newsom issues avariety of different statements.
We just grabbed one littlequick Twitter blurb from him.

Speaker 3 (12:11):
As the federal government conducts chaotic
immigration sweeps across thecountry, the state is deploying
additional CHP to maintainsafety on Los Angeles highways,
to keep the peace.
It's not their job to assist infederal immigration enforcement
.
The federal government issowing chaos so they can have an
excuse to escalate.
That is not the way anycivilized country behaves.

Speaker 2 (12:30):
Okay so Gavin Newsom, effectively saying, hey look,
we've got this under control.
Never mind the burning cars,never mind the rocks hitting
people as they're driving by,never mind the stores being
overrun and ransacked, pleasepay no attention to this and, by
the way, and also locking ICEpeople into a parking garage.

Speaker 3 (12:51):
like rioters are cornering them in and attacking
them.
Never mind any of that.
They have it all under control.

Speaker 2 (12:56):
That's right.

Speaker 4 (12:56):
And so now Bernie Sanders he comes out and he's on
CNN on Sunday, and here's whathe had to say my understanding
is that the governor ofCalifornia, the mayor of the
city of Los Angeles, did notrequest the National Guard, but
he thinks he has a right to doanything he wants.
He is Trump, and I would saythat, to a large degree, the

(13:19):
future of this country restswith a small number of
Republicans in the House andSenate who know better, who do
know what the Constitution isabout, and it's high time they
stood up for our Constitutionand the rule of law, you know.

Speaker 2 (13:35):
I would argue, senator Sanders, that you're
exactly 180 percent wrong inthis particular case, or 180
degrees wrong in this particularcase, because this is really on
our leaders like you, sir, tostand up and realize that we
have laws in this country and wehave to enforce those laws.
And if you go back and look athistory, your party's history,

(13:57):
going back to what happened inMinneapolis, and you did nothing
while you had innocent peoplebeing victimized night after
night after night, if you haveyour way, you do nothing and you
had innocent people beingvictimized night after night
after night.

Speaker 3 (14:09):
If you have your way, you do nothing and you just let
them do what?
They want.
Well, they burned a policestation down in Minneapolis and
the police were told by thatmayor to get themselves out of
the building.
Get out of the building and letthem burn down.
Governor, walz, just let it goon, just let it go on.

Speaker 2 (14:20):
And now this whole thought of oh my God, gavin
Newsom says we don't need anyhelp.
People of Los Angeles need up.
This is ridiculous.

Speaker 3 (14:31):
Well, and, by the way , her saying at the beginning,
that first clip of her sayingthat President Trump doesn't
like to see peaceful, doesn'tlike the scene of peaceful
protests, it's because he's notseeing peaceful protests, he's
seeing things on fire andattacks happening.
And then you hear Gavin Newsomsaying well, it's the federal
government's job to impose this,is not ours.
Okay, so is it not his job,trump's job, to say okay, I'm
going to sit in the NationalGuard because things?

Speaker 2 (14:47):
are escalating.
I'm not going to watch whathappened in Minneapolis and I'm
not going to watch what happenedin.

Speaker 3 (14:50):
Minneapolis.
So I think he's exactly doingwhat he's supposed to do and
else I'm misunderstanding.

Speaker 2 (14:55):
No, I think you're right.
And then Eunice Hernandez, whois with the LA City Council.

Speaker 3 (14:59):
Yeah, LA.

Speaker 4 (15:09):
They know how quickly we mobilize.
That's why they're changingtactics, because community
defense works and our resistancehas slowed them down before,
and if they're escalating theirtactics, then so are we.
Yes, when they show up, we gotto show up even stronger.

Speaker 2 (15:26):
OK, she is basically advocating for violence.
Ok writing and this is giving apermission structure to people
to come out and to criminallytake over a city, so you can't
let this happen.
I mean, this is absolutelyhorrendous what we're watching
and what is it like?
well, here's cbp officers in atruck trying to drive down the

(15:49):
street in la, and what you hearhitting the truck are bricks and
rocks this is peacefulprotesters by the way I just
want to remind people that's thepolice force in this country

(16:15):
now just getting rocks thrown atthem because you have them
trying to enforce immigrationlaw, and then our leaders saying
we're going to give youpermission for as much violence
as possible.
We're not going to stand up andsay enough of the violence, cut
the garbage.
We don't do that in thiscountry, right?
Instead of doing that, insteadof standing up for what has to

(16:35):
be stood up for, what we now seeis the continued escalation,
because we have feckless,gutless leaders who let this
happen in the first place andthen, as we keep going now, they
continue to fan the flames.
This is what it looks like wheneverything is political.
That's what it looks like youhave one side versus the other.
It doesn't matter what yourside does.

(16:57):
You advocate for it.
Why?
Because they're your side.
And when it's a zero-sum gameand you don't care, it's a joke.
And to me, you look at this andit's horrendous to watch it
play out.

Speaker 3 (17:09):
Right?
Well, let's look at a littlebit more clips before I say some
more thoughts, because I havedefinite thoughts on this.
But I just want to show youthis one clip.
Here's just.
I mean, this is justunbelievable at night, just more
rioting happening here.

Speaker 2 (17:39):
I mean so as you look at this, I mean you see waving
flags Palestinian flags, mexicanflags and then attacking our
police officers and our NationalGuardsmen who are now coming in
to start to calm things downagain.

Speaker 3 (17:52):
And this is through.

Speaker 2 (17:53):
This is Wall street journal that put this video
together and then let's go toclip 10 and you'll see some more
of what you were talking about,with some of the rocks being
thrown at these guys as well.
I mean it's, it's wild to watchand to sit here and think, I
mean, just watch these guys goafter cars and they're just
going to start chucking thingsat people.
Now some of some of them are,you know, doing with their

(18:14):
shields and trying to stay back,but a lot of them are masked
and then here they come throwingthe rocks right there.
That's now.
We showed you the video whenthey were inside that truck.
Right, we showed you the videofrom inside that truck.
Now you see them just chuckingall these rocks.
You cannot do this when you,when you go there and allowed
your whole country to just betorn apart, and it is absolutely

(18:34):
mayhem.

Speaker 3 (18:36):
Yeah, and show 11, too.
Show clip 11 here.
I found this one earlier today.
This gives like a real they'retrying to find these people
Because, look at this, this islike just in the median, just
chucking huge rocks.

Speaker 2 (18:50):
At normal people driving by, yeah at everybody.

Speaker 3 (18:52):
It doesn't matter if they're in there to try to help,
if they're police officers, ifthey're ICE or if they're just
drivers driving by.
You've got people down thestreet throwing the big rocks at
cars.
You've got these guys in themedian with a motorcycle helmet
on his head just chucking bigrocks.

Speaker 2 (19:09):
Yeah, I mean.

Speaker 3 (19:10):
It's like a third world country is what it looks
like.
Honestly, it doesn't look likestreets that are under control.

Speaker 2 (19:15):
Yeah, and, by the way , dan Bongino saw this video.
They're trying to find the guythere that is standing in the
road taking huge rocks andthrowing them at random people.

Speaker 3 (19:23):
Right, he just said he's the FBI director and he
said he would need the public tohelp identify the man throwing
the rocks at the vehicles in LosAngeles where federal agents
are conducting raids.
We are that guy with the helmetis the one we saw.

Speaker 2 (19:48):
And then Greg Gutfeld had this to say when he was
well, he just tweeted, which isa fair point.

Speaker 3 (19:54):
Trying to find a country to establish a sanctuary
city where I can burn she whilewaving my native country's flag
, while violently demanding theydon't send me back to the
native country of the flag I amwaving.
Is there a country I canterrorize, then demand sympathy
when they want me to leave?

Speaker 2 (20:11):
Yeah, I mean it's just, it's ludicrous to watch.
Yeah, it is.

Speaker 3 (20:15):
It's just, it's unbelievable.
And it's unbelievable that youhave Governor Newsom sitting
there in California sayingeverything's under control, I've
got this all under control.
I'm wondering if Tim Walz isthinking maybe I should give him
a call.

Speaker 2 (20:29):
No, he's not, Because they don't understand it.

Speaker 3 (20:33):
They're going to burn your city to the ground is
what's going to happen.

Speaker 2 (20:36):
Think about this too.
I'm sorry.
Every country on the planet hasimmigration law that they
enforce, and if you get to acountry now and we live in a
country now where it's like, no,you're not allowed to enforce
that anymore, you've lost yourcountry.
Like you can't do that, youdon't get to answer with
violence and say guess what?
We're going to destroy you.
If you try to enforce the lawsIf that is where we're going,

(20:58):
then we don't have laws anymore.
Then it's going to be like well, I'm afraid to enforce the law,
so we're not going to, and thenyou have chaos.
Then you've wrecked yourcountry, all right.
So that's why leaders on bothsides should be coming together
on this and saying enough of theviolence.
If you get violent, you're goneand get them out.
Get them all out.
If you're going to be violent,or if you're an American citizen
getting violent, you're goingto jail.

Speaker 3 (21:23):
I mean, you know this is ridiculous, which is why,
now, president Trump was notwaiting for Newsom and he went
ahead and brought in 2000National Guard members.
Here's some video of thathappening.

Speaker 2 (21:29):
Yeah, yep, they're in now, and so we'll see what ends
up happening here over the nextcouple of days and does this
start to calm down.
But I will tell you, I think,as you look at this, just from a
political sense, and if you'relooking at this, we got a pull
out from CBS news that came outtoday Okay, and if you think
Trump is underwater onimmigration, he's not.

(21:50):
He's not.
So, before any of this, beforeall the violence, before people
flying Mexican flags andthrowing rocks at American
vehicles, right before that, hewas at 54, 46, up eight points
on his immigration policy.
And should you deport peoplehere illegally?
Okay.
And, by the way, those visualsthat you're seeing, right, there
are not going to work in GavinNewsom's favor or anyone's favor

(22:13):
who is for this.
There are not going to work inGavin Newsom's favor or anyone's
favor who is for this.
It's not going to work, okay.
So you have a major problemhere.
And so I just think, as youcontinue to move forward, I
think where Trump is on this,this is his, this is his ground,
where he feels like he is onvery solid ground.

Speaker 3 (22:31):
Well, I just think you know a lot of us are just
over in six, just tired of therioting that happened with the
BLM riots, and you saw whathappened to Portland, you saw
what happened to Seattle, yousee what happens to San
Francisco, you see what happensto these cities that get
completely out of controlMinneapolis, where things just
go and escalate like crazy andall the looting starts and it
just became chaos for a solidwhat?

(22:52):
Two years.
Really.
I mean realistically.
It was about two years of justcomplete and utter chaos, and a
lot of those cities are stilltrashed or still trying to
rebuild their communities.
So I'm excited that Trump issaying no, not happening.
Like I will start, I think he'slearned a lot based on what's
happened in just recent historyin our country, and I think that

(23:13):
is good, that he's learningthings that are new, if Gavin
Newsom hasn't learned anythingfrom the mess that Tim Walz
created in Minneapolis.

Speaker 2 (23:21):
He's learned.
Politics is what he's learned.
This is politics.
Now, this is.
My base will be upset if I comeout and say what are you doing?
Oh my gosh, they are beholdento a sliver of their own party.
I guarantee you most Democratsare like what is this?
We can't have this.
And yet they're beholden tothis tiny sliver.
That is like no, you shouldn'tenforce any immigration law
whatsoever.
Open up the borders.

(23:41):
Let them do whatever they want.
I mean, that's a terrible placeto be.
You will continue to getdestroyed in elections if you
continue to follow this path.
That's the ironic thing is, themore political you are, the
less chance you have to win apolitical race.

Speaker 3 (23:54):
Well, I said a meme to a friend of mine today and
was Gavin Newsom just takingselfies and videoing himself and
in the background it's justlike chaos and it was like
things on fire and the guy withthe flags and everything.
And I was like how do yougovern a state of California
during chaos?

Speaker 2 (24:07):
And it's just him like, talking about himself and
how great he is and all this andI'm like yeah, believe me, the
AI memes are hilarious becauseof what you can do with them now
, but but it's it's sad too, Imean, at the same time you watch
it and go oh my gosh, what youknow, what are we doing here?
So we'll see what happens withthis, I think.
What you're seeing, though, isif you think Trump is going to
back down on this.
No, and nor should he.

(24:28):
Most Americans realize youcannot operate, cannot continue
to be a country and, by the way,if we stop this down, we will
have done it just in time,because, eventually, you see
some certain countries in theworld, especially in Europe they
can't stop this.

Speaker 3 (24:41):
They can't stop it.
There's nothing they can do.
And it is dangerous.
It's hurting their tourism,it's hurting their economies,
it's hurting their livelihood,their schools or hospitals.
It is crazy.
So if you don't get under,control.

Speaker 2 (24:53):
The stuff gets violent and then they have
nothing.
There's no way they can stop itRight, and that's the kind of
stuff that, that, that a that acivilized society, a society
that is truly gives everybody achance, especially in a country
like this where we've providedmore opportunity and we will
continue to.
But you can't do it this way.
I mean it's out of control.
And then you get back to the,to the issue.

Speaker 3 (25:13):
I mean all of this whole immigration issue
continues to blow up with theMaryland man.
Yeah, maryland man, who's?

Speaker 2 (25:22):
the moron from Maryland that went down there
that represented uh, he's, he'syou know what he's doing around.

Speaker 3 (25:24):
He's so excited because they're going to bring
back uh, a Brego Garcia.
They're going to bring this guyback from the prison.

Speaker 2 (25:31):
Yes.

Speaker 3 (25:32):
Because now they're going to charge him on human
trafficking.
So here's the thing.

Speaker 2 (25:37):
So yeah, so this is what's funny, so this was
amazing and so I found thisarticle and it was by Jonathan
Turley, who's an attorney wholooks at all this stuff Real
smart guy.
But what made it so funny isand Alan Dershowitz talked about
the same thing where they wereboth like yeah, but what made it
so funny is and Alan Dershowitztalked about the same thing
where they were both like, yeah,had his lawyers not turned him

(25:59):
into the Maryland man who wasjust swept up and sent away?
Had they handled this moretactically and said, wait, you
just you can't send him here,but you can send him to these
other places because they hadevery right to deport him.
He's an MS-13 gang member.
He's been accused by his wife,credibly, of beating her
multiple times.
Remember, he's been accused byhis wife credibly of beating her
multiple times.
Ok, it's a bad guy, sorry, buthe is OK, but has it, as an
attorney's, not turned him intothe Maryland man?

(26:20):
Likely, this never would havehappened.
He's now going to end up backhere, likely to be convicted.
Even if he's not convicted, bythe way, he's going to get.
He's gone.
He's never going to live infreedom in America again.
Ok, because they're going to.
They're going to ship them offto another country.
However, he's more likely toend up in jail.

Speaker 3 (26:40):
but just listen to what Turley says about how this
all went down in clip 17.
Oh yeah, okay.
So if a Brego Garcia had beenremoved, little attention would
have likely been drawn to hisprior conduct.
Indeed, as all the democraticpoliticians, such as Senator
Chris Van Hollen, arrived in ElSalvador with an army of
reporters, one has to wonder ifAbrego Garcia was having second
thoughts about his challenge.
While news organizations likeNPR described Abrego Garcia as a
family man living quietly inMaryland, the facts proved far

(27:03):
more damning.
He was repeatedly accused ofbeating his wife.
The court record also includedallegations of his involvement
in a notorious gang, per, thePrince George's County Police
Gang Unit.
Abrego Garcia was validated asa member of the MS-13 gang.
Subject was identified as amember of the MS-13.

Speaker 2 (27:22):
I don't know how to say that, yeah, this information
was provided and tested on asource who had provided truthful
and accurate information in thepast, so they know what they've
got here.
They jump behind a guy who's anMS-13 member and this guy's
like, yeah, yeah, and thenthey're like, okay, let's bring
him back.
He's been human trafficking Fortwo years.

Speaker 3 (27:41):
it was two years that they think he it's something
like a hundred transportationsof illegal people and they
believe human trafficking, sextrafficking, all this kind of
stuff.
So now I'm just like, okay, Ican't wait to watch Chris Van
Hollen get excited about thisguy's trial.
I'm sure he's going to show upand be like a character witness
for this guy now right, we do it.

Speaker 2 (28:00):
Yeah, it's a very good point Because they've had
Maria together down in ElSalvador.

Speaker 3 (28:04):
So, he should come up .

Speaker 2 (28:06):
No, it's true, and I think the funny thing is about
this.
I mean and we say it all thetime on this show it's like why
would you?
You know?
Why would you do this?
You?
You haven't as a, as a party,as as an, as a particular
politician.
Why would you continually jumpon this side of something that
is so clearly against the bestinterest of the country and even
against your own interest inwinning an election?

Speaker 3 (28:26):
well, because just it's again.
It's just, it's anti-trumpright, trump.
Trump started this.
And they think okay, well,we're not hailing immigration
right and Trump started this,and they think okay, well, we're
not hailing immigration right.
And here's this guy that theythought they could somehow wrap
their arms around and make him afamily man.

Speaker 2 (28:40):
Oops, police reports.
Oops, oops.

Speaker 3 (28:43):
Maybe you should slow down before you pack your bags
and use taxpayer-funded money togo down to El Salvador and make
a cocktail with this guy andmake him all these promises of
bringing him home.

Speaker 4 (28:57):
I mean I'm just saying, guy stepped in it, he's
absolutely stepped in it.
I hope his voters remember this?

Speaker 3 (28:59):
I really do, because it's just ridiculous.
Okay, speaking of stepping init, I was just like thumbing
through Twitter.
I think we were trying to watcha show or something and I'm like
, oh my gosh, there's like alittle war between Riley Gaines
and Simone Biles, like I wasshocked at what happens.
This is the tweet that SimoneBiles put out against Riley
Gaines.
It says You're truly sick, allof this campaigning because you

(29:21):
lost a race Straight up, soreloser.
You should be uplifting thetrans community and perhaps
finding a way to make sportsinclusive or creating a new
avenue where trans feel safe insports Maybe a transgender
category in all sports butinstead you bully them.
One thing for sure is no one insports is safe around you.
And then here's Riley Gaines'response to that, which I

(29:43):
completely backed Riley Gaineson this.
It said this is actually sodisappointing.
It's not my job, or the job ofany woman, to figure out how to
include men in our spaces.
You can uplift men stealingchampionships in women's sports
with your platform.
Men don't belong in women'ssports and I say that with my
full chest.
I, I and I.
We didn't even clip the thingsthat people said to some.

(30:03):
Uh, uh, simone Biles.

Speaker 2 (30:05):
She got ripped.

Speaker 3 (30:05):
She got landed on, I mean just thrown grenades at,
because it was like how dare youLike what?
You've never competed against aman in gymnastics or your sport
, like you have no idea whatthis is even like, yeah, it's
ludicrous it's crazy that youjumped into this, like, why are
you speaking about this?
So, sage Steele, she says, um,she was on ESPN for a long time.

Speaker 2 (30:25):
She now has a podcast .

Speaker 3 (30:26):
Okay, so it's as easy to say this at Simone Biles,
when you only had to competeagainst fellow women, every one
of your Olympic medals came.
Competing against fellow women,riley Gaines was not only
forced to compete against a man,but forced to share a locker
room with that man.
That is sick, shocked anddisappointed that you'd attack
another woman who has donenothing but uplift other women.
If you think it makes sense tocreate a league for trans people

(30:47):
, go for it.
Use that huge platform of yours.
But to attack Riley for whatshe has done for little girls
who want to be the next SimoneBiles is sick.

Speaker 2 (30:55):
Yeah, it's an unbelievably weird take Because,
by the way, simone Biles had adifferent take in 2017.
She's like thankful that mendon't compete in my sport and
actually they can't.
Really Men could not compete inthe same events that Simone
Biles does.
Just the way they are.
Like Simone Biles would bebetter at them actually, but,
but, but her sport.

Speaker 3 (31:16):
That's why there is no man.

Speaker 2 (31:17):
Right, Right, Right.
They could well, they couldn'tright.

Speaker 3 (31:19):
Cause they couldn't win.

Speaker 2 (31:20):
They could not, they couldn't win Absolutely and, by
the way, they're also notcompeting in like ballet
competitions either.
Brian Boxing, who won this lastOlympics, had his Olympic medal
stripped because he was a manLike.
They found it out and theystripped it, and so this is just
such an odd choice for her towalk in and go this route.

(31:42):
It's one thing to say, look, Ithink we need to try to be
inclusive and to make a pointabout inclusivity.
But if you're making a pointabout inclusivity by saying
someone's a sore loser because adude took him out, I mean, give
me a break.
It's just such a, it's so weird.

Speaker 3 (31:57):
It's a weird thing.
And plus Riley Gaines for therecord, riley Gaines didn't lose
, she tied, but she had to giveaway the medal to the guy.

Speaker 2 (32:02):
Well, plenty of women lost to him.

Speaker 3 (32:04):
I mean, he won a national championship Of course
she just was the voice that saidcrazy town that we're in this.
I'm in this pool with a sixfoot four guy whose reach is
crazy and is not.
He's not a woman, so why?

Speaker 2 (32:15):
am.

Speaker 3 (32:15):
I competing against him, so anyway it's it is.

Speaker 2 (32:23):
I don't understand the.
I mean, this is a little bit.
This harkens back a little bitto some of what you saw with
some of the soccer players andstuff like that who never had to
compete against men.
And even the U S women's soccerteam who took on like a juniors
team got destroyed and so andyou know even what you're seeing
what was it in Minnesota thispast week?
They had one pitcher on agirl's softball team who mowed
everybody down and they won thestate title Right Because one

(32:43):
male pitcher came in there andsaid you know, I'm transgender,
look out.
And then they went.

Speaker 3 (32:47):
Yeah, it was like 14 innings or something.

Speaker 2 (32:50):
No, it was beyond that.
It was two more games afterthat right, that was easy.

Speaker 3 (32:52):
Yeah, it was crazy, so yeah.

Speaker 2 (32:53):
And so that sort of thing.
It's just again another one ofthese issues which is and again
I don't think you're seeing asmuch of a political divide on
this particular Simone Bilesdeal, I don't know, and I don't

(33:14):
know what her thought process ison makes zero sense for her to
walk in and say it this way.

Speaker 3 (33:16):
We're like sore loser .
Yeah, she'd be okay with thedudes coming in.
I mean, who are you?
It's also like two years thisis she.
Riley gaines been out therecampaigning for two years.
She's one of our first guestson this show.
We started our show over twoyears ago.
Right, she's been at this forover two and a half years, so I
don't know why simone is comingin right now.
Yeah, like it makes it makes nosense, no, it doesn't Okay.

Speaker 2 (33:32):
A couple more stories .
I also want to get on the michere.
We do have some changes comingup on how we travel.

Speaker 3 (33:39):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (33:39):
I saw this in the wall street journal Pretty
fascinating.
A lot of times you don't knowwhat's coming up with cars.
You know because you see.
You know, you see what comesout, the new model year or
whatever.
But they're working six, sevenmodel years down the road.
Right, they're working on alldifferent sorts of stuff.

Speaker 3 (33:54):
So it just seems weird to me.
I'm like why not just jumpahead to the year seven?
Like why do you need to makecar three year for a lot of it?

Speaker 2 (34:01):
takes time to like they're researching stuff and
they're testing stuff.
They do this all the time inColorado.
You'll be driving around andthere'll be a car covered in
almost like a blanket.
It's a black blanket and it'sbecause it's a tester car.

Speaker 1 (34:14):
It's a tester car.

Speaker 2 (34:15):
They're testing them out and sometimes, to your point
, they never.
They never go with it.
Right, you're like, oh, whywouldn't you jump ahead Seven
years?

Speaker 3 (34:21):
Well, okay, but I'm just saying, if they're working
on those models, well, I wouldjust say no, no, no, it's some
of the stuff they do, it's a caryou never see, because it just
never happens.

Speaker 2 (34:30):
Now, the reason they do it in Colorado is the high
elevation, right.
So you go up some of thesepasses, like you know, over
Hoosier Pass or the EisenhowerTunnel, it's, you know, 10,000
feet or whatever it is right,and so they do that.
So, els, here's the article andit says the cars of the future
will transform the greatAmerican road trip.
So here's what's interesting.
Here's some of the details onwhat they talk about, what's

(34:51):
going to be in cars, maybewithin the next 10 years or so.

Speaker 3 (34:55):
Well, it starts with a revamped navigation system.
They'll plan your ideal route,make hotel reservations and even
teach you about the surroundinggeography.
Car interiors could transforminto a mobile movie theater and
lie-flat massaging seats willactivate during endless highway
stretches.
During endless highwaystretches.
As self-driving cars becomemore of a possibility, companies

(35:15):
are exploring vehicles thatbreak design convention with
forward-facing seats, steeringwheels or dashboards allowing
for enhanced in-car travelexperiences.
We're looking at hands-onexperiences that offer the best
of both worlds, where you canhave the ultimate luxury of
being chauffeured and still havethat visceral experience of
travel and all the informationyou want and need, says Bryant

(35:36):
Nesbitt, head of global designat Cadillac.
Now Cadillac says they'realready dipping their toes into
experiential designs.
Nesbitt and his team recentlydebuted a trio of concepts a
tapered two-person grand tourwith bed-like seats and a shared
curved screen for long weekendsaway.
A boxy six-person recreationalvehicle for exploring nature and

(35:58):
socializing with friends.
And a single-person verticaltakeoff and landing vehicle for
accessing hard-to-reach locales.
Look at this.

Speaker 2 (36:07):
There they are.

Speaker 3 (36:08):
And Ella wanted to point out, these are AI.

Speaker 1 (36:11):
Well, obviously, which we knew.
I'm just saying, well, thereare things in the past that you
to point out, these are AI, wellobviously, which we knew.
I'm just saying, well, thereare things in the past that you
guys have not known are AI, yeahthat's a good point Like one
time dad pulled up a polar bearvideo One polar bear.

Speaker 2 (36:20):
I got fooled by one polar bear.
It was so funny, you were likeI can't believe these fishermen
befriended these polar bears.

Speaker 4 (36:26):
And.

Speaker 1 (36:27):
I was that was embarrassing.

Speaker 5 (36:30):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 1 (36:30):
That was so funny.
So what I'm trying to say is isI don't, I don't see this
happening Well.

Speaker 2 (36:34):
so here's one of the issues.

Speaker 3 (36:36):
Wait, why doesn't she Well hold on?
Let me give you the issue, andthen you can tell me if this is
why?

Speaker 2 (36:40):
Uh, one thing they're concerned with is safety.
Is that if you turn thesethings into beds, you're in real
trouble?
Like you're just not you're notchecking.
So the question is what do youdo with safety as well as mixed
in with the new?
You know, you know issues onthe road.
Now, if the car itself is beingself-driven, then you're

(37:01):
probably looking at feweraccidents, most likely, but that
is one thing they're concernedabout.

Speaker 1 (37:05):
So is it completely self-driving with no steering
wheel on it?
Is that what they're saying?

Speaker 2 (37:09):
No, I think you're going to always have the ability
to override.
I think I can't imagine youwell, I shouldn't say that I, at
least at the beginning of thiswhole thing, I think you'll have
the ability to override.

Speaker 3 (37:19):
Okay, here's the thing.
This sounds good when you'rewatching the Jetsons and the
cars are all flying around andthey get you to where you go and
you don't have to really doanything.
The reality for a type Apersonality like myself.

Speaker 2 (37:29):
Oh God, you grabbed the wheel yourself.

Speaker 3 (37:30):
There's no way I'm getting into it.
There's no way that.
Not only am I not going to getinto a self-driving car, I'm
certainly not going to lay downand go to sleep, no you know
what, I think the car.
You know what you're going todo.
I'll take the train before I dothat.

Speaker 2 (37:41):
No, no, no, no.
Here's how this is going tostop pull over to the side.
It's going to be like I'm donewith you, lady, and enough of
you just questioning how I drive.

Speaker 3 (38:00):
As it should be, because I just have zero
business being in a self-drivingcar because I can't give that
kind of control up there's zerochance.

Speaker 1 (38:07):
I think that these cars are unbelievably
unrealistic and I think they'regoing to be super expensive.

Speaker 2 (38:13):
That's my thought process.
Well, once you get the, well,yes, I think you're probably
right for now, but I would saythat down the road, this stuff
does become cheaper.
Like a lot of this, technologywill eventually become cheaper.

Speaker 1 (38:24):
Like how Teslas were super expensive at the beginning
.

Speaker 2 (38:26):
Right yeah, and I think some of the wear parts,
like, for example, teslas, are agood example of the wear parts
like, for example, tesla's are agood example.
A lot of the wear parts thatyou have with a normal gas
vehicle.
You don't have them with abattery operated or an EV.
Okay, you don't have hotengines running.
There is no engine right.
You don't have all these issues.
You have regenerative braking.
You don't have as many of thoseissues.

(38:47):
You don't have, you know, allsorts of different engine parts
to wear.
They don't occur.
So there is some real benefitto EVs and I think down the road
, I think it's, it's going to bea real benefit, but for now
it's still a bit dicey,especially on range.

Speaker 3 (39:03):
Are you, uh, are you going to lay down and fall
asleep in a car that you'resupposed to like?
It's just driving.

Speaker 2 (39:08):
I think like anything .
Yeah, I think eventually youwould.

Speaker 1 (39:10):
I'm asking you Would you?

Speaker 2 (39:12):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (39:13):
I can't even sleep on a plane.

Speaker 2 (39:14):
I almost do it now.

Speaker 1 (39:15):
I can't sleep on a plane.
No, that's insane that you'rewilling to.
Like you're sitting in thedriver's seat and you lay back
and fall asleep If everybodyelse is in a.
If everybody else is in acourse, you don't think so.
I don't think in my lifetimeevery single person is going to
be driving a Samsung.

Speaker 3 (39:33):
Oh, I do.
I don't want that, no way, andI'm telling you.
That's why it works in theJetsons, right?
Because?

Speaker 2 (39:38):
Maybe you won't have your own cars.
Maybe, Just pull up.

Speaker 3 (39:56):
A unit will just pull up and then he would hop in.
Yeah, just drove you someplacethat's right or it flew, yeah,
when they are all and you'll payby the use.

Speaker 1 (40:01):
You just won't have a car sitting there all the time,
so it's like an uber all thetime yes, but it would be a
self-driving uber, yes, and thenyou'd order different levels,
like you.

Speaker 2 (40:08):
you're like hey, I want the big sleeper car, cause
I'm going to Denver.

Speaker 1 (40:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (40:12):
And you get in there and it takes you and you're done
.

Speaker 2 (40:15):
You will absolutely fall asleep.
My gosh, you'll be, you'll beout before you leave the
neighborhood.

Speaker 3 (40:19):
This is this would be like okay, well to me then
that's mass transportation,that's different, that's, but
the premise of what you'retalking about is that everybody
would be in a similar type oftransportation.

Speaker 5 (40:32):
Well, no, no.

Speaker 3 (40:32):
So if you're in a similar, type of transportation,
then sure then I'm not asscared of like.
If I have a semi coming at meand there's an ice storm and I'm
dead asleep in the car and thecar doesn't react well to the
ice, and I get taken out by asemi Agreed.

Speaker 2 (40:44):
No, the ice thing is different.
The ice thing is different.
But I would say you're lookingfor, okay, jetsons.

Speaker 1 (40:52):
I'm just telling you eventually everybody will be
able to afford that, though,cause I don't.

Speaker 2 (40:56):
I think it's going to be a use-based.
I think it will be use-based.
In other words, it's not aboutbuying a.
We have four cars sitting inour driveway right now.
We don't need four cars.
Most of the time in ourdriveway we need we always need
two, and sometimes you needthree.

Speaker 3 (41:10):
And sometimes you need four.
You better talk to yourdaughters about taking away
their cars, but you know whatI'm saying?

Speaker 2 (41:13):
The vast majority of the time, your car sits there
doing nothing.
Okay, so the point will be Ella, you're like I'm going to the
gym, Boom, and you walk outsideand it's there and it all of a
sudden you get into it.

Speaker 3 (41:36):
It takes you to look like I figured it out.
You've traveled through thewormhole.

Speaker 2 (41:37):
You've traveled to the future and you already know
this is coming, and so nowyou're excited about it.
Here's how I know.
Here's how I know Bigfoot isdriving most of those units.

Speaker 3 (41:43):
Oh, awesome, okay, so as long as Bigfoot's behind the
wheel, I will totally take anap.

Speaker 2 (41:48):
But do you understand ?
You understand what I'm saying,though?
Like you're still going to payfor a car and, by the way, if
you want a really nice one,there'll be a really nice one
that pulls up.
So rich guy, whoever he isright, he you pull up in.

Speaker 1 (41:59):
Rich guys like I'm hopping in the Porsche version
of whatever this unit is andwe're going and for the rest of
us celebrities who have so manycars, they're not going to want
to give up their six cars forlike an Uber type of deal.

Speaker 2 (42:11):
Look, I'm not saying it's going to happen quickly,
but I am saying eventually, whatyou'll do is there'll be a use
tax of some sort that'llbasically pull these cars off
the road and eventually you'rejust going to have.

Speaker 1 (42:20):
Hey George, george, we sound crazy.
I'm sorry, things went off therails.

Speaker 3 (42:28):
I'm sorry about that.
Dad went to.
That's happening actually rightnow.
Okay, which is turbulence atour airports, and everybody
knows how much I do not like tofly.
If you listen to the show forfive seconds, I am scared of
turbulence.
Yes, I am.
I'm one of those people.
Well, now there's just been areport by weathercom that's
breaking down the top five mostturbulent airports in the US.
I'm shocked.
That list, yeah.
My guess is just that it's toosmall of an airport um, no,

(42:51):
aspen smaller.
Oh yeah, smaller okay here we go, denver number one.
Not shocking no, denver's whenyou go into denver it is scary
coming and going, yep, and youwant a double whammy.
Fly from denver to albuquerqueand you can get it on both ends
of the stick, it's awesome okay,salt lake city, coming in at
number two, las vegas three,which that is so scary, that
heat if you landed, or I've hada terrible fight there aspen,

(43:13):
scary airport to fly into, I'vedone that.
And honolulu, which I've neverflown, oh yeah, we have.

Speaker 2 (43:18):
We just landed in honolulu, not very long yeah
yeah, honolulu, because of theuh, yeah so yeah, put the, put
the list back up, so else acouple things that are
interesting.
Air is a behaves like waterdoes, right.
So in other words, when, whenthe air tumbles over the Rockies
right and toward Denver, it'slike a wave and it's like if
you've ever been in the ocean,you get hit hard by a wave.

(43:39):
That's sort of what happenswith some of that air turbulence
over Denver.
It comes rolling off theRockies, comes into Denver and
buries them Also Salt Lake'ssimilar right.
So you have the Wasatch Frontthere.
Mountains are a huge concern.
Las Vegas is the heat, exactlywhat you said.
Rising heat in the afternoonbuffets a plane.
I mean that rising air comes upand slams the bottom of a plane
, and so that's why Las Vegas isbad.

(44:01):
Aspen is the same thing theturbulent air with the mountains
.
It ends up knocking planesaround and, by the way, most
planes that fly into Aspen endup being a little smaller plane
as well.
So those get bounced around.
And then Honolulu is the risingair from the heat of the day
and the storms that form inthose showers that form around
Honolulu.
They can bounce you around too.
So Albuquerque same Albuquerquewould be actually a cross

(44:23):
between Las Vegas and Salt Lakebecause you have the mountains
there, so we definitely have theturbulence off the mountains,
and then we also get the heatbuffeting the bottom of the
plane when it goes to land.

Speaker 3 (44:34):
My biggest piece of advice, which I think people
already know, this as you flyearly, just get out of town get
out of here at like a 5am or a6am flight.
That's your best start.
Especially in the summer,absolutely the problem is when
you try to get home.
You can't get home at 5am.
So, then you're coming home andyou're just like white knuckling
those seats and doing all yourprayers and everything, which is
what I do, but anyway, okay,last little bit that you've

(44:54):
you've put in here a littlelittle fun.
Is this ai, or is this real?

Speaker 2 (44:57):
no, this is real.
This is real.
So this is a thai grocery storeand look who comes in for a
visit.

Speaker 3 (45:04):
I mean, look at this guy wow I mean he can, why would
he even get in?
There's a big old elephant, youguys for those of you that are
just listening, so it's sort ofa garage door sort of thing that
they open.

Speaker 2 (45:15):
So it's wide but he's too tall so he's sort of wedged
in there.

Speaker 3 (45:18):
Yeah, he's stuck.
He's like Winnie the Pooh whenhe ate too much honey.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (45:28):
Now he can't get back this thing out, but just shows
you how smart they are.
Look at him, just drop down.
He's like yeah, sorry aboutthat, guys, let me get out of
here.
And he just kind of works hisway out and you can see they're
not getting too close to him,cause you know, an elephant can
give you the business.

Speaker 3 (45:41):
Oh, yeah, he could charge him.

Speaker 2 (45:43):
Yeah, and he.

Speaker 3 (45:47):
I bet he didn't even do any damage really, because he
was just kind of oh you think,I think the roof.

Speaker 2 (45:52):
He's thousands of pounds.
What do you think he did tothat floor when he walked into
that?
What do you think that floor islike?
I don't know.
You think that floor underneathhim right now is like yeah, no
problem, I got it.
It's a couple two-by-foursspanned with a two-by-six or two
.

Speaker 3 (46:07):
You know that will be a little member.
People come in and take theirpicture saying this is where the
elephant's beautiful, thoughhe's kind of impressive.
Yeah, that's an impressivesituation, thailand things
whenever you watch any of thevideos of the grocery stores in
thailand.
Yeah, you get alligators.
You get elephants, monkeys I'veseen monkeys coming out of the
ceilings.
Yeah, I don't think I'd evershop if I was in thailand but
yeah, yeah, he tore up the floor.

Speaker 2 (46:27):
You can see him just kind of okay, all right.

Speaker 3 (46:30):
Well, it could.
He did not get any walls down,no no, no, he was feeling is
still intact.

Speaker 2 (46:35):
Yes, sort of yeah, he's as gentle as he could have
possibly been, he's good, he'sgood.

Speaker 3 (46:39):
I like the elephant.
I'm on team elephant all rightokay I'm always.
I'm a team elephant person ofcourse you are, of course, I am
sorry.
Okay, well, thank you so muchfor joining us.
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