Leaders MOCK Faith — Vance REVEALS Brutal Truth | Episode 222 - No Doubt About It

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
wildfire.
You can't tell the sound.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
Okay, here we go, we are back we're back people yes
we're here for a fresh newepisode and, yes, you know who
else is back who's that?
Ella, she's joined us which isso helpful to have her ella.

Speaker 1 (00:17):
Thank you seriously, thank you guys.

Speaker 2 (00:19):
Thank you so much.
Yeah, it's great to be backafter my long break yeah, yeah,
the hiatus.

Speaker 1 (00:24):
I think you you kind of like one of the members of
the band who decided I'm goingto go do some solo project work
and then you were gone for awhile and now you're like, hey,
we've got a new album coming out.
I'm here.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
And I have no idea if I'll be here for the next
podcast episode, but I am heretoday for this.

Speaker 1 (00:37):
That's why we live in the now.

Speaker 2 (00:39):
Yeah, we appreciate it so Mark can actually
concentrate on the show and nottrying to push some buttons.

Speaker 1 (00:44):
Yes, good point which never goes well, so it's good.

Speaker 2 (00:46):
No, okay, let's just make a quick mention of your
bright orange t-shirt today.
Oh my gosh, I mean cause it iscool and it fits you perfectly.
Which?

Speaker 1 (00:53):
is yeah, I mean, we have our secret source.

Speaker 2 (00:56):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (00:56):
Down in Southeastern New Mexico.

Speaker 2 (00:58):
I love the.

Speaker 1 (01:00):
They are the greatest and our secret source went to
Artesia and got a Bulldogst-shirt.
We've been looking around foran orange Artesia Bulldogs
t-shirt and this is a Bulldogsfootball shirt, which anybody
who knows football in the stateof New Mexico you know that
Artesia is regularly one of thegreat teams in the state, so of
course I had to get the shirtyou had to represent.
Oh, it's fantastic.

Speaker 2 (01:21):
Yeah, it's good.

Speaker 1 (01:21):
I like how bold it is yeah football in southeastern
New Mexico is a big deal.

Speaker 2 (01:25):
I know I wish we were a little closer because we
could go take in some of thosegames because it would be fun.

Speaker 1 (01:29):
And it's a great community too.
Yeah so very, very cool.
Yeah, happy to have that on andthank you to our friends down
there.
Of course, we will have alittle discussion about where
we've been over the past weekand everything that we've been
through as a family a little bit.
So we'll quickly go throughthat.

(01:51):
We're going to talk a littlebit about very briefly about the
prayer controversy a little bit.
You know, many of you know whathappened with the shooting in
Minneapolis and everything else.
We're not going to dive backinto that, but there was an
interesting exchange that Iwould love to talk about and
just because I think it was soillustrative of how things have
changed in the country, we willdo that.

(02:11):
And we're going to talk aboutsomething that one of our
legislators wrote in theAlbuquerque Journal today,
talking about the necessity.

Speaker 2 (02:18):
But did he write it?
That will be a question we'llhave to answer as well.

Speaker 1 (02:21):
Well, that's part of it.
And then what he said and whathe advocated for, which was
interesting, and I think somepeople sometimes fail to realize
the people they run into inpolitics in New Mexico that they
see on television or that theyknow well, those aren't your
garden variety legislators, andsome of your garden variety
legislators have some very, veryunique views, and this guy has

(02:45):
some of that, so we'll talkabout that.
We're also going to talk aboutsort of the election and how
things are rolling here as wehead out of 2025 electorally and
into 2026.
You're going to have a littleeconomy talk here, because this
is the story, and Scott Bessantwas on the morning shows today.
I want to talk a little bitabout some of what he said.

(03:06):
We're big fans of him and howhe positions arguments.
He had a couple of interestingsoundbites that we'll talk about
.
Rfk Jr has come out and HHS isapparently going to come out and
talk about one potential causeof autism, and it could be
something none of us reallyrealize.
Is it true or not, we don'tknow, but we will go through
some of that as well.

(03:27):
And then the game cameras.
I mean I have got a shot ofshots on the game camera.
When I saw this thing comethrough, I was amazed.

Speaker 2 (03:38):
You're always amazed.

Speaker 1 (03:39):
I know I do love it.
I'm not going to lie, it'sfantastic.

Speaker 2 (03:41):
Okay.
Well we'll get right into that,okay.

Speaker 1 (03:44):
Yeah, so okay.
So about uh, 10 days ago.
Uh, we got a call that, uh, andyou've been talking about how
your mom has been in a battlewith dementia for a while, and
we got a call about 10 days ago.
That was last Thursday, on the27th of August, I believe.

Speaker 2 (04:03):
Yeah, last yeah.

Speaker 1 (04:04):
Yeah, that she had fallen and was in the hospital.

Speaker 2 (04:07):
Right.
So, yeah, my mom, she fell andsustained some pretty bad
injuries and they ended upbasically ending her life.
I mean they basically she kindof went into kind of almost like
a coma type state and just didnot wake up from that.

(04:27):
But you want somebody that youlove so much to go away in a
peaceful manner and as peacefulas she could pass.
She did, and it was a verymixed time obviously, just
because you know it's hard, likewhen you lose your mother, like
there is nobody else.
But she had been battlingdementia for a handful of years

(04:49):
and towards the end it was justnot my mom anymore and anybody
that's out there that has lost afamily member to dementia or is
currently struggling with, withsomeone that you're very close
to has dementia.
You see that you know just thatjust that person kind of
disappear and somebody elseshows up and it just was not the
kind of life that I know my momwould have been wanting to live

(05:12):
.
So you know, I really did say asilent prayer of just saying
you know God, thanks for takingher.
I know where she is today.
I have no doubt she's in heaven.
You had a very kind thing tosay about my mom, literally in
moments of her passing, that Ifound out and said I believe
that she's up there in heavenright now negotiating a little
cabin in the woods.

Speaker 1 (05:33):
Oh, there's no doubt.

Speaker 2 (05:33):
Because my mom loved the mountains.
Here's a shot of my mom that myniece took in the mountains.

Speaker 4 (05:39):
In.

Speaker 2 (05:39):
Breckenridge.
In happier times in healthiertimes for my mom.
She had a great love for theoutdoors and just lit up
whenever you took her to themountains.

Speaker 1 (05:49):
So she would, whenever we'd go, take her up to
Breckenridge, which is wherethat shot was taken.
She would just she'd be thefirst one up in the morning.
You know you'd get up and she'dalready been up for two hours
she's been sitting on the riverTwo hours.

Speaker 2 (06:05):
I mean my mom got up at like 4 am.
Every day had a pot of coffeebefore we even pretended to wake
up.
So which was my mom?
I mean just all in all, justhow much you know.
She means obviously atremendous to me, my brother and
my sister.
There's three of us I'm thebaby, but I you know she also
had a huge impact on our girlsand she was here for us when I
had both girls.

(06:26):
I really didn't know what I wasdoing and of course she swept
in like any good mom does andkind of tries to help coach you
a little bit along the way andshe had to coach Ella who blew
out a hamstring on that picture,If you take a look at.

Speaker 1 (06:38):
Els, I don't know how you handled the hamstring, but
sliding up behind Grammy is funstuff.
She was such a force of natureshe was.

Speaker 2 (06:51):
And we did a simple service for her and I think it
was something that she wouldhave wanted.
We really tried to focus on herfaith and her family and her
love of the mountains, and mysister and I, Vicki, picked a
really sweet poem called theRockies and Mark read it for us
and had some fun words to say.
So all of you that have textedand written into comments to us

(07:12):
or sent emails, I've read themand I so appreciate our
community of support and Iappreciate the fact that you
guys understood why we had toskip this past week.
I it was just not the week Icould have been on camera.

Speaker 1 (07:23):
I appreciate all the sport and the love.

Speaker 2 (07:26):
Thanks for the prayers.
It was great.

Speaker 6 (07:28):
It was great.

Speaker 1 (07:29):
Can I tell the quick her quick thing about about the
law in Colorado.
I think people will appreciatethat.
Just really quick for those ofyou.
Yeah.
So for those of us who wereborn in the seventies, eighties
and even early nineties, uh,because of the advent of the
telephone, especially just thenormal phone, and encyclopedias
and things like that, that'swhere we got our information

(07:50):
right.
Well, with the advent of thecell phone, obviously, then you
know, you got quick access toinformation.
But we're growing up.
You could literally be wrongfor a decade, right, your
parents could tell you somethingand you'd be like, no, it's
true.
And you'd be like, and someonetell you, no, that's not true.
And they'd be like and someonewould tell you, no, that's not
true.
And they tell you that it's nottrue.
And you finally figure out it'snot true.
You know, it's like I, it turnsout if I get close to the TV

(08:10):
I'm not going to go cross-eyed,it's not going to happen.
But my mom said it was going tohappen, right.
And so we go through thesethings of a.
You guys can be both bulldogs.
Okay, yeah, you can saysomething.
Yeah, we do have a little bitof mule-ness.
Yes, there's some mule-ness toyou, right?

Speaker 2 (08:28):
So as a family, you know we'd run into things here
and there where you'd bring themup and we'd all you know, the
girls and I would look at eachother and be like, yeah, that's
not true, that's just's true.

Speaker 1 (08:45):
So your mom tells you these things and again back in
the day.
We'd all be wrong for literallyyears.
But now you have your phone,you can literally correct the
record on the spot.

Speaker 2 (08:54):
There was no need.
There was no need.
Shireen said that it's true.

Speaker 1 (09:02):
It's true, it's one of the things we got the biggest
kick out of was that, shouldyou be driving down a road in
Colorado and God forbid a deeror an elk jumps out in front of
the car and you hit the deer,let's just say and the deer is
on the ground and it's not dead.
Shereen shared with you a verysimple Colorado law, which is it

(09:26):
is law in the state of Coloradothat you have to kill the deer.
You've got to put it out of itsmisery.
That's the law, right, right.
So if you've got a gun in yourin your glove box, will you pull
that out and you go put in thepistol to their head and you
shoot them?

Speaker 2 (09:35):
She was telling me this as I was learning how to
drive.

Speaker 1 (09:37):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (09:38):
Because there was a.
There was a time that you couldpotentially have hit a deer in
my small town growing up,because it was there was a lot
of wildlife.

Speaker 1 (09:45):
I hit one as a kid in Vermont and the deer survived.
I tried to chase it down tokill it, but it didn't wait for
me.
So, uh, so we all hear this andwe're like what?
And so then one of us askedlike well, okay, well, what if
you don't?

Speaker 2 (09:57):
have a gun, which I did not have a gun.
I wasn't packing heat as a16-year-old.

Speaker 1 (10:01):
Okay, and then what was her answer?
If you don't have a gun, shesaid use your tire iron.

Speaker 2 (10:06):
Use your tire iron.

Speaker 1 (10:07):
Okay.
So therefore, not only have yougot the trauma of hitting the
deer, the further trauma of thedeer not being dead, yes, you
pile on top of that.

Speaker 2 (10:17):
You have to pull out a tire iron to kill them.
I knew it was my responsibilityto go in that life of that
suffering deer with my tire,which I can't.
I never really thought itthrough.

Speaker 1 (10:26):
I mean this turns into Goodfellas Like you are
literally in the back you'relike what?

Speaker 2 (10:32):
is happening, and at 16, I weighed like 95 pounds.

Speaker 1 (10:34):
I'm not sure I would have been able to do that.
Yeah, I mean, plenty of16-year-old girls don't even
know where the tire iron isRight.

Speaker 4 (10:40):
well, I did.

Speaker 2 (10:41):
I actually was trained pretty well with my car
but no, I just think she justwas like don't you know, make
sure you don't hit an animal andlet it suffer, and that was
kind of her point.
However, I think she took it toan extreme.
I remember bringing it up in aconversation with the family and
I don't remember how itactually got brought up, but I
was just sharing the story andjust making sure that everybody
knew you know, you don't everwant to leave an animal

(11:02):
suffering and you guys made somuch fun of me that I was like,
oh no, no, this is true, I'mcalling my brother because my
brother worked for thedepartment of forestry in
Colorado.

Speaker 6 (11:10):
And.

Speaker 2 (11:10):
I'm like he's going to, he's my lifeline.
I'm going to call phone afriend.
I'm calling my brother.
My brother started laughing sohard over the phone.
It was like Christy, what, whywould you have believed her when
she told you this?
And I was like, well, becauseshe told me, and he goes, I go,
what am I supposed to do?
And he goes, you call somebody,like call the Department of
Forestry, They'll come andthey'll take care of the animal

(11:33):
for you.
But no, Christy, you don't haveto go out there and whack it
with your tire.

Speaker 1 (11:37):
Yeah, so that was one of the great things.
Shreenisms as we call them, wecall them.

Speaker 2 (11:41):
Shreenisms.
I did say a few.
I have a lot of Shreenisms thatI'm still trying to figure out.
You know, in my 50s, are thesetrue or not?
Like it's really crazy.
It's a legacy.

Speaker 1 (11:49):
It's a legacy she leaves behind.
No, it was funny, but anyway.
So that's that.
But again, we pray for her.
Something we was talking about10 days ago about the shooting
in Minneapolis, and I want totake you back to something that
was interesting because we spenta lot of time praying over the

(12:11):
past couple of weeks for forShereen, and it makes you kind
of reevaluate where you are inyour own life.
How are you dealing with things?
How are you spending time withyour kids?
How are you showing them what'simportant?
As we were cleaning out her roomat her facility, it just kind
of hit me and my brother-in-law,jerry, as we're picking all
this stuff up and moving it, ithits you that this is all
worthless.
Like all this stuff you buy isworthless, it doesn't matter,

(12:35):
you don't take it with you, itdoesn't bring you joy in the
afterlife, nothing, right.
So we spend so much timeworrying about you know what are
we wearing or what kind ofshoes are we going to get, but
when you die, those shoescouldn't look more empty, right.
They couldn't look more aloneand just kind of worthless there
.
And so it made me think aboutprayer and how we spend our time

(12:59):
, and one of the tweets orex-posts that came out was from
Jen Psaki.
Of the tweets or ex posts thatcame out was from Jen Psaki.
She was Joe Biden's presssecretary.
So I want you to just read thatand it really struck me because
it bothered me deeply.
But then I want to get into aresponse to it, which I thought
was unbelievably well done.

Speaker 2 (13:17):
She says prayer is not freaking enough.
Prayers does not end schoolshootings.
Prayers do not make parentsfeel safe sending their kids to
school.
Prayer does not bring thesekids back.
Enough with the thoughts andprayers.

Speaker 1 (13:29):
Okay, I think that is a horrendous response.
Okay, Needless to say, I thinkshe's just absolutely clueless.
And so when I heard it, I wasangry and I really couldn't put
into you know, I couldn't putinto words exactly how angry I
was at it, right, I just kind oflooked at her and went what is

(13:49):
wrong with you, Like what iswrong with you?
No one saying prayer is goingto magically change every single
thing.
God gave us free will.
God gave us the ability to tryto change our circumstances.
Sometimes prayers are answersand sometimes they're not.
I can't tell you why and Ican't tell you when, but it's
absolutely true.
But I just kind of mulled on it.

(14:10):
And then JD Vance had a directresponse to her and I thought it
was absolutely.
Every time I hear it I getemotional.
So go ahead.

Speaker 2 (14:20):
It is shocking to me that so many left wing
politicians attack the idea ofprayer in response to a tragedy.
Literally no one thinks prayeris a substitute for action.
We pray because our hearts arebroken and we believe that God
is listening.

Speaker 1 (14:34):
That is such a smart way to say that.
It is just so well said, and Idon't know if he wrote it or a
staff member wrote it.
My guess is he wrote it right.
I mean, that would not surpriseme at all.
I just think it's sobeautifully said that oftentimes
you pray not because you knowthat God's going to fly down and
fix it.
He's not a genie in a bottle.

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He doesn't claim to be.
The God that we serve died onthe cross.
He was not pulled up and savedand spared from all his trials.
In fact, he suffered more thanmost any of us ever will across
the board.
So, as you look at this, ourfaith is not based on a genie
God who we pray to and thensuddenly he fixes it all for us.

(15:17):
No one says that.
No one, only the uninformed andthose who trivialize true faith
and don't have an understandingof it.
They're the ones who go and say, well, where's your God now?
That's what she's saying.
She's saying where's your Godnow?

Speaker 2 (15:30):
The fact that the Bible is very clear on.
This is a fallen world andthere's going to be a lot of
crap that happens.
A lot of bad stuff's going tohappen, and bad things happen to
really good believing people.
It just does Like there's noway around it.
I had to explain to ourdaughters when we were
discussing faith with them.
I said listen, this road isnarrow, that you follow Christ
and he says pick up your crossand follow me daily.

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And when you pick up a cross,that's not an easy thing to do.
That is like if you think aboutJesus actually carrying that
cross and how heavy it was andhow broken his body was and how
beaten he had been and he wasbleeding and he's carrying that
cross.
If you have that visual in yourhead, it should tell you that
becoming a Christian isn't likea walk in the park.
It doesn't mean that you'regoing to not have trials.
It's laid out very clearly inScripture.

(16:13):
So it's pretty harsh when youhave people that come in and say
want to demean your faith bysaying oh, your prayers and your
thoughts mean nothing Like stopit with that.
What is also very clear inScripture that God hears the
brokenhearted.
Very clear he's talking about.
Come to me with your fears andyour anxieties and your broken
hearts.
I hear you.
I mean, the Psalms are full ofit.

(16:35):
I just read Psalm 34 thismorning.
It's full of it.
It definitely supports the factthat you have a God who loves
you and is listening to you andwants you to come to him and
cast your cares upon him.
So I think it's just.
It really is a slap in the facefor not only these parents who
these kids were going to aCatholic church, by the way.
Okay, so these parents arebelieving parents.
Most of them, I would ventureto say, were very strong

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believers of prayer, as weretheir children, and so to say
that, in the face of afaith-filled school getting
attacked, seems even much moreharsh than it needed to be.

Speaker 1 (17:11):
Yeah, and I think it's that classic example of
trying to go and you take anissue and you create a straw man
, you create a fake issue.
Oh, all they want to do is pray.
No, that's not true at all.
That's not true at all.
You have to evaluate mentalhealth, you have to be able to
figure out who is a threat andwho is not, and those things
need to be done and that actionneeds to be taken, absolutely.

(17:33):
But I just saw this and to meit was just so.
It was so disheartening to seeit.
But then again, the statementby by Vice President Vance,
which I think regularly he justfinds the perfect tone for so
many different things he's veryeffective at that.
And I think this was just such aan interesting thing as a
coming off the heels of yourmom's stuff, and about prayer

(17:54):
and about how you deal withthings and about the way you
move forward when it is clearlypainful and things happen that
are beyond comprehension as faras what these parents have to go
through in their heart.
I mean it is awful, but it isalso important to remember that
this is, and if you look at theworld and if you look at your
life right now as the be all,end all and it's the end game,

(18:17):
then you're right, then you havethat thought of it.
If all there is is this world,then fine, you can keep acting
like that, you can keep doing it.
Then you're right in your ownmind.

Speaker 2 (18:27):
Well, and also it's a slap in the face again to these
parents, because it's just apolitical move.
Is what this is.
When you have somebody that'sout there, when she's saying
enough of your thoughts andprayers, basically she's leading
into the conversation of guncontrol.
I mean, that is what this isgoing to be all about again,

(18:50):
right, that's what this is.
What's happens.
It's like on rotation, Right,and I just think that you know,
yes, there has to be certainactions that are taken, but to
automatically just ignore thefact that these parents are
heartbroken and what happened tothese children and what are
happening to the children thatare still in the room that we're
talking about, how scared theywere and just well, all that.

Speaker 1 (19:05):
But even beyond that also, you know, the fact is that
you have someone who committedthis crime, who for a long time
had been writing all sorts ofhorrendous things, and the New
York Times actually wrote apiece that said we may never
know his motivation.

Speaker 7 (19:18):
We absolutely know his motivation.

Speaker 1 (19:21):
He made it very clear that he, you know he was going
to take out these, these kidsbecause he was evil, I mean, and
he said it and he was a, he wasan anti-Semite, he was all that
stuff, he's all you know.
He had all sorts of things.
He put horrible things on theclips, the gun clips he had, and
you can't tell me people thatthat experienced him and dealt
with him one-on-one didn't knowwhat he was about, but anyway,

(19:43):
we don't, we don't need torehash all that, but.
But my point is on this thing,it was just a, it was really a
well said, you know statementyeah absolutely.
And then early, you know, lastweek again.
So Senator Tim Kaine comes outand he starts talking about
again.
It's like we've reached a timenow where every time I look at
some of these people who used tobe kind of middle of the road,

(20:05):
sort of just you know, peoplethat you can say I don't agree
with them on everything.
We may be in differentpolitical parties or whatever,
but you know, I understand theirpoint.
Tim Kaine comes out with thispoint on laws and where we get
our freedoms from.
So this is Senator Tim Kainefrom Virginia from.

Speaker 3 (20:25):
So this is Senator Tim Kaine from Virginia, and
that rights don't come from lawsand don't come from the
government, but come from thecreator.
That's what the Iraniangovernment believes.
It's a theocratic regime thatbases its rule on Shia law and
targets Sunnis, baha'is, jews,christians and other religious
minorities, and they do itbecause they believe that they
understand what natural rightsare from their creator.

(20:47):
So the statement that ourrights do not come from our laws
or our governments is extremelytroubling.

Speaker 1 (20:57):
Yeah, what's extremely troubling is your
ignorance of faith and hiscomplete and total ignorance of
this.
I mean, the thing that's sofrustrating about this is you
listen to it.
It's like saying you know,we've got two different cars
here.
One is an ambulance that takespeople to the hospital and the
other is a street racer who'sgoing to kill people.
They're not the same.
They're both in cars, they'reboth in automobiles.

(21:19):
They're not the same.
Faiths are not the same.
They're not.
And if you look at-.

Speaker 2 (21:25):
And even certain sects of faiths are not the same
.

Speaker 1 (21:27):
Very true.

Speaker 2 (21:28):
So you can have very strong extremists on one end of
the spectrum, right, and thenyou can have a peaceful type of
faith as well.
That is not.

Speaker 1 (21:38):
Very true, but what he's talking about and the laws
that, when our country wasformulated, were formulated with
God in mind they were.
They're mentioned in there.
What are you talking about?

Speaker 2 (21:47):
Absolutely, you know.

Speaker 1 (21:48):
And so.
So, therefore, I think thisthought that oh, no, no, no,
well they they.
They believe in their creator?
Yeah, they do.
There are plenty of people whobelieve stuff that's complete
garbage.
I that doesn't make my faithany less valid.
In him saying that, there's no,there's just this continuing
push away from faith and I don'tunderstand why it's happening,

(22:09):
especially for people in themiddle of the.
You used to see the edge of theDemocratic Party.
Be that way, the edges of allparties.
You expect to say crazy stuff,but now, more and more, you're
just seeing this push away, thisabandoning.
I think, of a faith that helpedbuild this country.
I believe God has blessed thiscountry because of our faith,

(22:29):
and I think if we continue topush that faith away, I think
invariably what you see is moretrouble, and you see us the
further we get from God, themore trouble we run into.
And I just think it's a fact,and I don't care if you don't
like that and I don't care whatTim Kaine thinks of it, but I do
believe one of the things thathas blessed this country is our
faith in God, and if we continueto walk away from that and I

(22:50):
know there are plenty of peoplewho don't.
Don't get me wrong, but if wecontinue to walk away from it
and try to push ourselves awaylike, no, we don't have anything
to do, god has nothing to dowith that.
Okay, okay, you keep walkingaway.
He's not going to chase youdown and pull you back in.
You will just experience moreand more trouble.
So that's why I just think,when I see leaders do this, it

(23:11):
to me is incrediblydisheartening.

Speaker 2 (23:16):
Well, and also just steering away from what our
country was actually founded onand the fact that it was set up
for religious freedom, right, so, a religious freedom?
So, because they werepersecuted for their faith and
their beliefs, you know, inEurope, so they come to America
so they can have the freedom ofworshiping their God, right,
that was part of the foundationof our founding fathers, right,
and it's like it feels like that, the freedoms for certain

(23:40):
faiths, which, whateverChristians specifically, are now
being targeted by certaindemocratic leaders or really far
left wing leaders that want usto remove anything about faith.
That's right.
When unfortunately.
I mean, have a history.
Test people, because thiscountry was founded on faith.
It was, it was.
They believe that God had theirbacks, that God provided this

(24:03):
country.
And was it all done perfectlyby the early American settlers?
No, it wasn't.
There's plenty of things theydid wrong, but ultimately it
became a country and our, ourearly constitution and our
declaration of independence.

Speaker 1 (24:17):
It was very clear this was founded on a
god-fearing country and so andagain, you don't have to, you
don't have to agree with thatfaith at all.
But to to say that it doesn'texist, or to say, to try to
equivocate the two, it is to meridiculous it's also eliminating
our freedom right and you takethe iranians and you say, oh,
it's basically like iran.

(24:38):
No, it's not like iran.
That's complete ignorance andyou know it.
Yeah, but he does it anyway.
Well, that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (24:42):
There's extreme faiths that are like we're gonna
go kill people in the name ofour God.
Right, Christianity is based onlove.
Okay, it's one of the onlyfaiths that's based on love.
If you actually look at thefoundation of it, it's day and
night.
And for him to take that kindof measure no, Our country was
never based on our faith allowsus to go and kill off people.
That's not what ever happened.

Speaker 1 (25:04):
Well, not in this country, but okay.
All right, so all right, allright.
So here's the thing.
Let's get to what's going onwith the Albuquerque journal,
and a Senator from Las Cruces bythe name of Bill Soles decided
to pen a.
How do you say?
Well, we'll call it aneditorial, and I'm not.
You know, penned could be a bitmuch, but.
But I want to go through this hea bit much, but I want to go

(25:28):
through this.
He submitted it, he did submitit, there's no doubt about that.
And so it says learning frombold leadership a model for New
Mexico's political future.
So when I saw the headline I'mlike, oh, but we've got bold
leadership coming up.
I wonder what Bill Soles thinks, because I kind of know what he
thinks.
So I was like, oh boy, this isgoing to be good, and it was.
It was fantastic.
So let's take a look into whatBilly Soles has to say.

Speaker 2 (25:48):
Here's a poll quote.
In an era when politicalcampaigns are too often marked
by vague promises and platitudes, New York City Council member
Zoran Mamdani's platform standsout as a model of clarity and
conviction.
As New Mexico faces persistentchallenges like scarcity of good
jobs for the next generationand deep-rooted problems in

(26:09):
public health, education,housing and workforce
development, it's time for ourcandidates to learn from
Mamdani's approach.
Offer real-world solutions, notjust safe abstractions.

Speaker 1 (26:20):
Okay.
So first of all, it's funnyThey've been in charge of the
state for 80 years and we've gotthese issues, but we're not
going far enough.
Is what he's saying, right?
So what he's saying is hey,mamdani, is he's offering real
solutions?
So now I'm like real solutions.
I was thrilled because I waslike I can't wait to read about
what the real solutions are.

(26:41):
So here we go.

Speaker 2 (26:43):
Lead with specific values driven policy on
affordability.
Don't just talk aboutopportunity.
Deliver plans people canactually feel Okay.
Commit to making affordablehousing, accessible healthcare,
early learning and ruraltransportation top priorities.
Advance concrete policyproposals grounded in New
Mexico's realities.
Okay, broad declarations aren'tenough.

(27:05):
Voters want to see how ideastranslate into their lives.
Okay, broad declarations aren'tenough.
Voters want to see how ideastranslate into their lives.

Speaker 1 (27:08):
Okay, broad declarations aren't enough.
Be specific, he doesn't do anyof that.
No, this is complete and totalgarbage.
Let's keep going, though.

Speaker 2 (27:15):
Oh okay, this even gets better, right, okay,
because if you can tell me whatthis means, I'll give you a
brownie.
Okay, I'll give you some pointsCase results turn policy into
action.
Show how big ideas can beimplemented one step at a time.
Pilot new affordabilityinitiatives in select counties.
Model success Report back.

Speaker 1 (27:34):
Model success.

Speaker 2 (27:36):
Report back and scale what works.
Celebrate each step forward,creating a track record of
progress instead of waiting forone-size-fits-all solutions.
Goes on, I can't stop.

Speaker 3 (27:48):
Okay, I have to finish this Okay, yeah, go ahead
.

Speaker 2 (27:50):
Organize a broad, prideful coalition rooted in
local power.
Build multi Okay, this is myfavorite sentence.
Yeah, build multi-generational,multicultural momentum.
Bring together advocates fromall 33 counties, especially
Hispanic and Native Americanyouth, to co-create solutions.
Campaigns anchored in localculture and pride make people

(28:13):
feel seen and heard.
Okay, I am sorry If this guywrote this, I'm going to be
shocked, right, because itsounds like AI.

Speaker 1 (28:22):
It's right out of AI.

Speaker 2 (28:23):
AI just freaking.
He just put in write mesomething that says this about
bringing people together andmoving forward, and AI spit this
thing out and he put his nameon it.
I am guessing, because I haveto look at a lot of AI stuff as
a teacher.

Speaker 1 (28:37):
Right.

Speaker 2 (28:39):
I would be like.
I want to see your originalresources and all your notes on
this and I want to see ithandwritten out first, it's just
such plather.

Speaker 1 (28:48):
Oh, it means nothing, it's just garbage, it's just
hey, we want specific solutions.
Then he goes through and givesnone, none.
He just goes through and writesall this garbage out and you're
like what are you even talkingabout?

Speaker 4 (28:59):
Oh keep us going.

Speaker 1 (29:00):
And, by the way, all the little headlines, the
separate little headlinesthroughout it.
That's an AI move.

Speaker 2 (29:05):
Yeah, that's what AI does.
The path forward, mark by theway.

Speaker 1 (29:08):
Oh yeah, what is that ?
What is that?

Speaker 2 (29:09):
What's needed from every candidate is bold vision,
the willingness to harness thepower of our vast assets,
institutions, cultures andpeople, to turn good ideas into
action, to communicate clearlyand truthfully and to build
coalitions strong enough to liftevery community.
If New Mexico candidates heedthese lessons, they'll move
beyond uncertainty and intolasting opportunity.

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Voters don't want anothercampaign of platitudes.

Speaker 1 (29:34):
Even though you figure and just did a whole
article full of platitudes andgarbage.
I mean it's unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (29:39):
We don't know, obviously, if he, if I, wrote
this or not.
It's just I'm kind of in tuneto AI and I'm going to put my
money on AI, but obviously Ican't prove that.
What I will say on thissituation, though, is, even if
he wrote this with all his heart, it says nothing.

Speaker 1 (29:52):
Well, no, he starts off the whole article with let's
get.
The thing I love about Madaniis the specifics.
He gives none.
He gives none.
He's on the rent control.
Okay yeah, rent control doesn'twork.
It's never worked.
It's not going to work here.
What are we going to do?
We're going to do the grocerystores.

Speaker 3 (30:05):
We're going to do the government grocery stores?

Speaker 1 (30:07):
Those have never worked and, like all the stuff
he's trying to do doesn't work.
And, by the way, he lists theproblems we have in New Mexico
which they and their policieshave not helped, clearly.
But he wants to double down andgo further.
You're not going far enough, iswhat he's saying in this.
And he's saying it.
It is really almost unreadable,it makes no sense, and so to me
, you watch that and just go, ohmy gosh.

(30:28):
So then I'm like well, wait aminute.
You know, this really doessound like Mamdani may have it,
he may be on to something, andso I needed, I wanted to go all
the way through the process.
So, where's the latest fromMamdani?
Do we have anything?
And I do.
Actually, he did a little eventwith Bernie Sanders.
Oh good, the socialists teamingup together.
He started to give somespecifics on what he thinks

(30:50):
needs to happen.
So let's just listen to thisbrief 20-second snip of Zoram
and Donnie, giving just somecrystal clear vision which any
normal human being would listento and say this guy's got some
solutions.

Speaker 9 (31:03):
Incident around encampments here at Brooklyn
college.
The decision to surge officersinto that site is one that
leaves students less safe thanthey were before.

Speaker 1 (31:21):
Oh yes, see, that's the thing Cops leave you less
safe.
It's just the way it is, yeahno down is up and up is down and
we want fewer cops to makethings safer.

Speaker 2 (31:31):
So when we defunded the police a few years, ago.

Speaker 1 (31:33):
It worked beautifully .
Crime went down.

Speaker 2 (31:34):
Our crime all went down nationally, didn't it?
It did and we don't have crimeanymore.

Speaker 1 (31:38):
Remember when we used to have crime?
Yeah, and the criminals go.
You know, you're right, I'mdone.

Speaker 2 (31:45):
It's like telling your two-year-old to not walk in
front of a car, a back car.
No, you have to kind of givehim the claw and pull him back.

Speaker 1 (31:52):
Yeah, turns out you got to pull out the claw.
So you just listen to the inane, ridiculous things he says.

Speaker 2 (31:57):
But here's the thing.
Didn't you talk about this?
You said this.
What's going to be scary is ifthe like clings on to Mamdani
and thinks that this is the newface of the democratic party and
I think they're starting to doit and I think it's really bad.

Speaker 1 (32:10):
Right, and to that point, scott Jennings talked
about this on a podcast where hestarted to talk about what is
happening to the party as awhole and while and I do think I
think a couple of things, I'llmake the point of where I think
this is going, but just on theMamdani thing and the souls
thing and how lost they are.
Ok, just listen to whatJennings says and why I think,

(32:34):
broadly, this is a terribleapproach.

Speaker 4 (32:37):
The radical cultural left fringe taking over their
party was so destructive to themin 2024.
It is very difficult to have aconversation with a politician
about, say, taxes or the economywhen you know deep down what
they really want to do is put aboy in your girl's locker room.
If I cannot trust you to not dothat to me when my back is

(32:58):
turned, why in the world would?
I assume you would be confidentat doing anything else and so
letting the ideological extremesgo would be useful for them.
And I think number three theyneed to believe in America.
They have to stop rootingagainst America.
I think that part of theirhatred for Trump has led them
into this box canyon where theyare constantly rooting for

(33:21):
American failure.
You can hear it in their voiceand in their analysis.
They want there to be arecession.
They're disappointed when thereisn't.
They want peace negotiations tofail.
They're disappointed whenprogress is made.
You know they want Trump.
They wanted Trump to miss whenhe fired missiles into Iran.
They were desperate for that tohave been a failure.
Some wanted to impeach Trumpover it.

(33:42):
Stop rooting for Americanfailure.

Speaker 1 (33:47):
That's right, and I think you see it all the time.
And then you see this we have aterrible country and it has to
be ripped down to the studs,right?
And that gets back to TimKaine's comments.
Well, we're not the countrythat's based on laws and
freedoms from God.
That's not our country, right,you have.
The country being torn apart iswhat they're hoping for, and
the Mondani thing is more andmore government come in.

(34:08):
Let's rip this thing to shreds,which has created the most
prosperity of any country in thehistory of the world.
But we got to end it.
We got to end it.
And so you say to yourself OK,if you guys say that's not
working, if someone says that'sus, you guys say it's not
working, it's hurting the party.
And I say it is.
So then in 2026, how do thingslook?
I don't think they look good,and JD Vance has a good

(34:30):
explanation as to why.

Speaker 7 (34:32):
Anger usually wins midterm elections and because
we've done so much, what we saidthat we were going to do, our
people aren't angry.
They look at the president,they look at the administration
and they're happy with whatwe're doing.
Meanwhile, you've got like thefar left fanatics who I mean.
The president's politicalgenius is.
He's encouraged the far leftnow to come out in defense of
violent crime in our big cities.

(34:53):
But say what you will aboutthem, they're very angry right
now and they're very motivated.
And so I would encourage allRepublicans and everybody
whether you're Republican,democrat or independent who
thinks that we're doing a goodjob.
You got to remember to get outthere and vote in 2026.
Yes, it's.
You know people say it's not asimportant as a presidential
election, but it is very, veryimportant.

(35:13):
And if you want to give thegovernment over to people who
are defending murderers on thestreets of DC, then don't vote.
But if you actually want tocontinue to secure the southern
border and combat this inflationproblem, you've got to get that
out there and vote and give usthat ability to continue
accomplishing great things forthe American people.

Speaker 2 (35:32):
Yeah, and I think the you know.
Obviously the biggestdiscussion that we've been
having is how much the economywill be a driving force again
for these midterms, right, andwhat Trump is doing to help with
the economy.

Speaker 1 (35:42):
Right, right, true, yeah, absolutely, I think you're
right.
No-transcript problem, becausenow the Republican Party is a

(36:10):
party that used to be what theDemocrats were, which was a, was
a big party that didn't alwaysget their voters out.
Right, that's the way theDemocrats used to be.
It used to be oh, you couldalways depend on Republicans to
vote, no matter what Democratsmaybe, maybe not.
It's totally flipped.
So the Democrats are like we'revoting no matter what right
they're coming out to vote, andRepublicans now are a party
that's broader.
It's a broader coalition thanit's ever been, but you have

(36:34):
more people that are occasionalvoters or presidential year
voters than you do.
People that will vote on everyelection school board, you know,
whatever a congressionalelection, whatever it is right.
So that whole change in thedynamic of who votes when is
going to be a huge deal in 2026.
So I think what you could seehere is you could see a 2026

(36:55):
success for Democrats not huge,not some big, you know, tidal
wave because of their otherproblems, but they and what that
could make them believe is oh,we're good, we're good until
they get to 28.
And then it becomes somethingthat's a massive issue.
Right but you mentioned theeconomy.

Speaker 2 (37:11):
Well, yeah, so we obviously like Scott Besson and
he, you know, the treasurersecretary, but it's kind of
interesting.
He's taking this messaging.
He's talking right now and it'sa tricky job, given it's a
tricky job to try to get thismessaging out, that the economy,
like you can't be out there andbeing like, oh, the economy's
great, like you know, like whatkind of what Biden was doing?
We don't, we don't have anyproblems, the economy's great,

(37:32):
the economy's fine.
He can't do the same thing, andI wasn't in love with this
first answer that he gave inthis interview, so I'm going to
play it for you and then we cantalk about it.

Speaker 6 (37:41):
Things are so bad.
Why was the GDP 3.3 percent?
Why is the stock market at anew high?
Because, you know, withPresident Trump, we care both
about big companies and smallcompanies, and you're quoting
big companies.
But the big company index, theS&P, is at a new high.

Speaker 8 (37:59):
Hasbro says they're going to have to increase their
prices.
Goldman Sachs says 86 percentof the tariff revenue collected
so far has been paid by Americanbusinesses and consumers.
The tariff revenue collected sofar has been paid by American
businesses and consumers.
So just bottom line.
Mr Secretary, do youacknowledge that these tariffs
are a tax on American consumers?
No, I don't, even though youhave companies saying they are
going to have to increase prices, and given the fact that 86% of

(38:21):
these tariffs so far have beenpaid by Americans.

Speaker 6 (38:22):
No, no, no, you're quoting Goldman Sachs.

Speaker 8 (38:24):
Yes, goldman Sachs, correct, I made a good career
trading against Goldman Sachs.
Yes, goldman.

Speaker 6 (38:26):
Sachs correct.
I made a good career tradingagainst Goldman Sachs Okay.

Speaker 1 (38:30):
Okay, so Goldman Sachs numbers suck.
It's like this argument there,and, yeah, when you start
throwing numbers out, you'relike, no, I have a 3.3, and then
the GDP, and then everybody'ssitting there going to the
grocery store, going oh my gosh,they're still getting hurt.
So that is an issue.

Speaker 2 (38:46):
Yeah, I think he needs to be a bit more clear in
saying listen, this is thisissue.
You know you do feel the pinchin your wallet because you do.
I mean, I just think you cannotget, you cannot escape that.
What is the plan to lower thatfor people?
Or how do we help people outwith more tax breaks, or
whatever?
Just the messaging needs to besmoothed over Now, or whatever.

(39:08):
Just the messaging needs to besmoothed over Now.
He does answer this onequestion a little bit better, so
I wanted to also, you know,follow up with this, because we
do like Scott.

Speaker 6 (39:12):
So I can tell you, the one thing this
administration is not going todo and we are not going to let
the Democrat media surrogates do, is during President Biden,
president Harris's campaign,they told the American people
it's a vibe session.
You don't understand how goodyou have it.

(39:32):
President Trump was elected forchange and we are going to push
through with the economicpolicies that are going to set
the economy right.
I believe by the fourth quarterwe're going to see a
substantial acceleration.

Speaker 1 (39:47):
Okay, so really interesting there.
What he says is basicallyfourth quarter, we're going to
see a substantial acceleration.
Okay, so really interestingthere.
What he says is basically look,we get that I can't be vibe
session guy, which he was alittle bit of vibe session guy
in the first one right.
But then he gets away from thatand smartly says we know this
isn't a vibe session, we knowpeople are hurting and we think
our policies will help theaverage family by the fourth
quarter.
Okay, that's something you canhold on to, and if and if that

(40:08):
works, then it will work andthen the midterms will not be
bad, right, but if that's kindof slower and it takes time,
these things all take time, theydo, and so that's what's
interesting to me.
But he, but I did, like the wayhe said I understand it's not
about rhetoric, it's aboutresults.

Speaker 2 (40:24):
Okay.
So I'm just asking you do youfeel like the messaging that
they've given on tariffs so faris really clear to the American
public?
Or do you think there's stillthis kind of looming fear that,
hey, prices are gonna be allmessed up and we're all gonna
keep paying out the wazoo andjust kind of blaming the tariffs
without understanding theeconomic value of a tariff?

Speaker 1 (40:43):
Well, yeah, there's some of that, there's some of
understanding that, because thelong-term value to tariffs if
you believe in that, it takes awhile for it to reset right.
So that's hard because theimmediate results are a problem
and what I think the tariffshave really done to the average
consumer is it's taken basicinflation which he had no
responsibility for skyrocketingright, and it's given them some

(41:04):
ownership of it, because youcan't determine what's
inflationary and what is atariff.
And all of a sudden it all getsmixed in and all of a sudden
you start saying, well, I don'tknow if it was inflation or
tariffs or whatever, but it'stoo expensive, right, that's all
you're thinking, right, you'renot distinguishing between the
two, where you say, well, wait aminute, that was inflationary
and that happened two years ago,that that cost went up.

(41:24):
It didn't go up recently.
Or you say you know pricescontinue to increase slowly,
much more slowly than they did,so inflation is more under
control than it was, but it'snot going down, it's not
deflationary, we're not seeingthings get cheaper.
The only thing we could hopefor that on is energy, right,
and that's what they're workingon, right?
So all of this, I just thinkTrump, because of the tariff
situation has been melded in tothe situation with inflation and

(41:49):
he's having to own some of it,and so that's harder.
That's my guess.
And when you listen to peopleand you look at this, ella, the
Wall Street Journal let's justgo in on this a little bit.
It's a little tough to read,but I want you to understand the
question here and this is why Ithink there's trouble in the
economy, and this is what we'vetalked about a lot and we keep
trumpeting it on this show.
People like me have a goodchance of improving their

(42:10):
standard of living.
That's the question.
In other words, you say yes orno to that question, okay.
So you agree or disagree.
If you look at agree, agree isin Brown, okay.
And going back to the nineties,you saw most people say, hey, I
have the ability to kind ofchart my own.
Course, I can make thingsbetter for me, right, I can do
it.
But look what has happened overthe past five years.

(42:31):
People feel like they don'thave the ability anymore to
change their circumstances.
That's a huge issue.
It did not start with Trump,okay, it didn't.
But if you look at that and youlook at where things go, and in
fact, if you go and you see apeak in the Trump administration
around 2018, where people sayyou know you're up around, let's

(42:52):
go back just a little bit onthat graph.
What are we at?
Sixty, yeah, so you're at.
60 plus percent of people saidyeah, I can change my you know,
I have the opportunity ofimproving my circumstances.
Ok, look at what has happened,because prices have skyrocketed,
right, and because people can'tafford to buy homes because
interest rates are too high.
Again, a lot of this goes backto the Biden administration.
And then you just crater it.

(43:13):
Now people are saying roughly27 percent of people say yeah, I
can, I can improve mycircumstances.
The other 60 plus percent saythey can't.

Speaker 2 (43:22):
Right.

Speaker 1 (43:23):
That's a huge issue, right, and so what's happening
is Trump is having to get that,just basically eat that and have
ownership of that, when hedidn't cause it.
So that's why it's.
It's just interesting to see.
I don't know how it's going toshake out, but again, the
economy, if it does start toimprove, it picks up steam.
Fine, the midterms will be aneven split.
That's how I think it's goingto be, because of what Vance

(43:45):
says, because of the enthusiasmgap, right, and I think it'll be
an even split.
If the economy stays troubledlike it is now high interest
rates, people can't affordthings.
Price is not going down, edgingup, and tariffs may have some
something to do with a littlemore in the way it costs as well
Then that's something Trumpowns and that's going to be more
difficult.
They're going to lose someseats.

Speaker 2 (44:03):
Yeah, okay, well, an interesting thing, you know,
trump basically said to RFK Jr.
You know, I'm putting you incharge of figuring out what is
causing autism, right, becausethat's kind of what RFK one of
the many things he said that hewas going to get to the bottom
of.
So this is a new headline outand basically this new Wall
Street Journal yeah.

(44:24):
Yeah, wall Street Journalheadline says RFK Jr, hhs to
link autism to Tylenol use inpregnancy and folate
deficiencies.
Kennedy's autism report, toutedby Trump, will suggest that
using the pain reliever duringpregnancy might be linked to the
developmental disorder.
And then just a couple of thepoll quotes from this and then
we can talk about it.
But health secretary RFK Jrplans to announce that pregnant

(44:47):
women's use of anover-the-counter pain medication
is potentially linked to autism, and a report that will also
suggest a medicine derived fromfolate can be used to vitamin
and tylenol taken duringpregnancy.
People familiar with the mattersaid the agency also plans to

(45:23):
pinpoint a form of folate knownas folatic acid or luvoverin
yeah, close enough uh, thepeople said, as a way to
decrease the symptoms of autism,which affects roughly one in 31
eight-year-olds in the us as of2022?

Speaker 1 (45:38):
yeah, okay, so it's something.
Obviously we've cared about alot and and something I think
needs massive research massiveresearch and if you're, if
you're tylenol right now, you'relike what I know and know and I
don't, I don't know, I meannobody really knows but I.
But I do think the one thing Ilook at this and say is, at
least they're starting to try tocome up with some answers here,
and so I think you gotta bereally careful.

(46:00):
Obviously, right, the researchhas to be really well done and
really exhaustive, but thereshould be an immense amount of
research into this.

Speaker 2 (46:09):
Oh, for sure I mean and that's the thing is like
start showing the research,start showing the data to you
know, analyzing it, gettingclear heads around this.
Like again, it's about tryingto find that solution, not just
looking for to say, you know,this is not caused by anything
we don't really know.

Speaker 1 (46:22):
We don't know who knows, who knows what happens,
when the happens, when thenumber just keeps increasing.

Speaker 4 (46:26):
It's not good enough.
Yeah, it's not good enough.

Speaker 2 (46:28):
So I appreciate RFK Jr's fight to try to discover
what is causing autism.
You know it'll be interestingto see what is turned up and I'm
not saying I'm going to be onboard for all the discoveries.
But I do think what we need tobe getting this matter on is
figuring this out so we canlower the risk for future kids,
Because it does impact so manyfamilies now, well, did you take

(46:50):
time?

Speaker 1 (46:50):
So one thing I asked, cause when I just came out I
was like how did you takeTylenol when you were pregnant?

Speaker 2 (46:55):
I still don't take Tylenol and it's something
against Tylenol, it just it hasnever really worked for me, um,
and so I mean so we know that'snot the cause for us, but who
knows, who knows what it is.
I have my own theories, but Iwon't go into those today
because I am not RFK Jr, butobviously we follow this pretty

(47:16):
diligently and I'm superinterested in hearing what he
has to say when it comes to this.

Speaker 1 (47:18):
But at least they're trying to turn over rocks and
figure out some answers.
Hopefully they'll be able to dothat.
We'll see.
Keep an eye on this.
Folate's always been somethingthat's been talked about, and
how critical it is for women inpregnancy Is it not?

Speaker 2 (47:28):
Yeah, you take a supplement when you're pregnant.

Speaker 1 (47:30):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, absolutely, I mean
your doctor.

Speaker 2 (47:32):
That's like, if you have a good doctor, which I did,
you know, she told you rightaway to start taking that.
So, yeah, okay year.

Speaker 1 (47:47):
Uh, up in the Northern mountains it's elk
season, so we're getting readyfor the rut and there are some
amazing elk up by the camera, soI had a good week with the elk.
Okay, Now there's somethingbigger behind the elk, but but
let's take a look at this firstbig elk here, yeah, big bull
here.

Speaker 2 (47:58):
I'm not scared of these guys, just so you know.
So you're welcome to show us.

Speaker 1 (48:01):
I mean, look at these guys Gorgeous, look at him.
He's like right off acommercial, you know, and
there's been so much rain upthere, I I mean I can't tell you
, uh, up where, up where we are,I I'm not kidding.
I think we've seen somewherewith 15 plus inches of rain.
It's been unbelievable.
Okay, then you know, this timeof year two, you get the the elk
that are the boys all gettogether and they all hang out.

(48:21):
So these are three big timebulls walking down the path.
Yeah, they're just like what'sgoing going on.
So this camera, by the way, Ihave to say, this camera is the
camera, for I mean I got itdialed in this thing People on
our camera all the time yeah,People people hike on this trail
all the time.
Beautiful three elk, okay.
So I get up a two morning,three mornings ago, and whenever

(48:42):
I see, I always look at thethumbnails on my phone.
So I'm always like, oh, yeah,like, or you know, ah, it's just
a bunny rabbit or whatever.
I get mostly rabbits.
You know some little stuff hereand there.
Well, I saw this guy come inand then something behind him.
So here's the issue, though,before we show you the video, uh
, what I get are 15 second clips.
That's as long as the camerawill go, okay.

(49:03):
So this is one of thosesituations where it needed to go
30 seconds.

Speaker 2 (49:06):
And you're dying.

Speaker 1 (49:07):
And I'm dying.
Okay, so here we go.
Here's a look at it.
That is a mountain lion.
Okay, Now you see the glowingeyes behind him.

Speaker 2 (49:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (49:16):
That's another mountain lion.

Speaker 2 (49:17):
Yeah, again.
See, this is the ones I don'twant to see.

Speaker 1 (49:20):
Yeah.
So he comes up You'll be ableto see that it is a mountain
lion definitely right there.
But there, it is right there,else let's show it again.
But you see him walking throughthe middle of the night.
I mean this guy, that's thatsame trail where all the elk are
.
He's like, hey, where are theelk at?
But they look healthy.
I mean that first one lookssuper healthy yeah, that's,
that's.

Speaker 2 (49:37):
That's alarming to me .

Speaker 1 (49:38):
Yeah, oh no and then the second one's like hey, how
you doing, I'm here too, and sothis is multiple mountain lions
on the trail camp maybe, maybedon't hike at night like right
now.

Speaker 2 (49:47):
Yeah, no those things .

Speaker 1 (49:48):
Trust me, if you were walking the other way, you'd
never see that thing.

Speaker 2 (49:51):
It'd be popping into the woods with his little as
long as he's not hanging out ina tree, I'm good.

Speaker 1 (49:55):
With his little soft mountain lion paws.

Speaker 2 (49:57):
Oh, please stop acting like this, is like a big
old kitty.

Speaker 1 (50:00):
No, he's not a big old kitty, he's a man killer.
That's what those guys are.
Well, they are killing machines.

Speaker 3 (50:04):
They are killing machines.

Speaker 4 (50:10):
I mean they're beautiful.

Speaker 1 (50:11):
I was watching a documentary on mountain lions
and they said there are packs ofwolves who follow mountain
lions around.
They follow them because theykill everything.
And they'll kill an elk andthey'll eat half the elk.
And then the wolves will comein and be like thanks brother,
and they'll eat half the elk.
And then the wolves will comein and be like thanks brother,
and they'll finish it up.
And then the mountain's likegreat.
And so the mountain lion's justgoing out killing everything

(50:31):
and the wolves are like, yeah,we'll come clean it up.

Speaker 2 (50:34):
It's unbelievable, so I know you're super happy.
Football season is officiallyhere.
Any things you want to add ongames today?
I don't know who's- playingtoday.

Speaker 1 (50:43):
So this year, just two things we're doing this year
.
Obviously, we want the Cowboysto win every game, okay, every
single game, but we lost againstthe Eagles which is painful for
me too.
They should have won, Because Ihave Eagle friends in my Bible
study.

Speaker 2 (50:54):
And we go like this and she knows who she is.

Speaker 1 (50:56):
Anyway, you keep going.
No, no, no, it's just that wewant them to win, obviously.
And then number two.

Speaker 2 (51:03):
Oh, your mom's team.

Speaker 1 (51:04):
Yes, my mom's team, because the Cowboys have their
first round picks for the nexttwo years.
So the worse the Packers are,the better pick the Cowboys get.
So remember Cowboys win,packers lose.
That's what we're looking for.

Speaker 2 (51:15):
Okay, that's your take.
That's it.
That's all I care about.
That's.
Hot takes from Mark today.
Those are my hot takes, okay.

Speaker 1 (51:28):
Yeah, today, um yeah, I'm excited for the lions and.
Packers for the Packers to lose.
So I want the lions to win.
Yeah, absolutely no, no, I am ahuge whoever's playing the
Packers, I am in on them thisyear, like Jared golf.
I want them to have a huge yearfor the lions.
I love the guy.

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