The Three-Legged Stool: How Tariffs, Tax Cuts, and Spending Cuts Will Reshape America

In This Episode:

✅ Trump’s Plan to Revive the U.S. Economy

• With a shaky stock market making investors nervous, what is Trump’s strategy to get the economy back on solid ground?
• We take a deep dive into three key economic factors that will be essential in reducing the national debt and restoring long-term financial stability.
• Mark reveals the ONE critical factor that will determine whether Trump gets the time he needs to make these changes—or if the effort could end in disaster.

✅ Why Are Democrats Defending a Hamas-Supporting Activist?

• Trump is kicking out an activist who openly supports Hamas and the killing of Jews—yet Democrats are rallying to defend him.
• We break down why the left is taking this bizarre stance and what it reveals about their political priorities.

✅ Canada’s Hilarious Warning to the U.S.

• A Canadian journalist just wrote an article warning the U.S. not to invade Canada…
• Was anyone actually planning on invading Canada?! We analyze this absurd piece of writing and why it’s so ridiculous.

✅ Must-See Weather & Avalanche Video

• We wrap up with unbelievable weather footage and an avalanche video that will leave you stunned!

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:02):
You and I are told increasingly we have to choose
between a left or right.
Well, I'd like to suggest thereis no such thing as a left or
right.
There's only an up or down.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
This is the no Doubt About it.
Podcast.
No doubt about it Now yourhosts Christy and Mark Runcany,
wildfire you can't catch us now.

Speaker 5 (00:25):
Running, running, running dead Christy and Mark
Runcany, you're back from theAmazing Race College Tour.
Yes, yes.

Speaker 3 (00:32):
Ava and I were on the road for a good portion of the
last four days.
It was like 78 hours orsomething weird, and it felt
like you were gone a week, butyou weren't.
Yeah, it did.
We packed enough in for a week.
We actually started on Saturday.
We're shooting a different showthat we're working on, right,
it's a television show, so wewere doing that, which will be
out later this year.

(00:53):
And then we got all that doneand then Ava and I, at 5 am on
Sunday morning, got on a flightto Denver.
We then, drove rented a car,drove up to Fort Collins, took a
nap at my sister's, at yoursister's house, and then Ava had
a uh tryout or performance, oraudition as you would say.

Speaker 5 (01:14):
Yes Um for the CSU theater department.

Speaker 3 (01:17):
Yes, yes, and that went really well Okay.

Speaker 5 (01:20):
Yeah, I'm very optimistic.

Speaker 3 (01:21):
Okay, so that went well, and then we finished that.
We run back to your sister'shouse, I shower.
We then take the rental carback to DIA.
We hop on a flight to Richmond,virginia.
We get into Virginia at likemidnight and I leave it to Ava,
because we're two hours fromwhere we're going in Lynchburg.
Okay, so I leave it to Ava togive us the best route there.

(01:45):
Ava chooses the Ichabod Craneroute, which is just through
Through Sleepy Hollow.
Oh, I mean my gosh Through thesetiny roads in the middle of
nowhere, Virginia.

Speaker 5 (01:56):
You're lucky you didn't have fog because I was
talking to you that night andwhen I've done.
I worked in West Virginia for awhile and when I'd fly out
there I would land at night anddrive around and you couldn't
see your hand in front of it.
I mean, it was like deep fogand I said the same thing to you
.
I'm like I am in the land ofSleepy Hollow here and the
Headless Horseman is coming outin front of my car at any moment
.

Speaker 3 (02:15):
No question, no doubt , oh, absolutely.
And so we go.
Two hours through, wediscovered Wawa, by the way,
which was tremendous, the gasstation chain, oh my gosh, it
was literally like in the desert.

Speaker 8 (02:26):
when people start to go crazy for the hydration.

Speaker 5 (02:28):
Yeah, yeah, the oasis , yeah, the little oasis.
It's like the mirage of theoasis in the distance, except it
was real.

Speaker 3 (02:32):
It was delicious.
I had the most delicious clubsandwich at two in the morning
from Wawa.

Speaker 5 (02:41):
It was really fantastic growing up was Wawa,
because she couldn't say Ava.
So when we say Wawa in thefamily it's like a joke for Ava.

Speaker 8 (02:47):
So it's no longer a joke.

Speaker 5 (02:50):
Wawa's very serious don't you defame the name of
Wawa.

Speaker 8 (02:54):
I wasn't defaming it we take this route, which is
crazy every couple of miles wepass like a really old white
church it was cool.

Speaker 5 (03:03):
there's so much history it was really cool.

Speaker 3 (03:06):
It was really cool.

Speaker 5 (03:07):
We saw a raccoon the first raccoon I've ever seen in
my entire life.
Oh, we saw a raccoon in theroute.
We actually have raccoons here,but okay.

Speaker 3 (03:12):
Yeah, well, no more there, I think, but yeah, and so
we get there middle of thenight, we get in 3 with the
debate team at LibertyUniversity first thing in the
morning, and it was early, andso it did that and did its
campus tour.
It was an incredible campus, bythe way.
Yeah, I mean incredible campus.
So we had a good visit there.

(03:32):
Ava and I were there for acouple of days and did that and
then ended up coming back late,late on Tuesday night and, by
the way, ava decides to send ushome a different route.
Okay, so we go back from fromLynchburg to to Richmond to
Richmond.
Yeah, it turns out there's likewide, open, straight roads that

(03:52):
we could have easily taken youdidn't have to go through sleepy
hollow.

Speaker 10 (03:55):
I just wanted to spend more time with my dad.

Speaker 3 (03:58):
Oh my gosh.
So we, yeah, if you go through,which is effectively you go
through, uh, just like major,major thoroughfares,
charlottesville, university ofVirginia, like it's a beautiful
drive to.
Both drives are very pretty,but but that second drive was
like straight shot, four lanehighways.
I mean we would.
It was unbelievable.

(04:18):
On the way home I'm looking atAva like really you sent us
through sleepy hollow and we hadthis available to us in the
middle of the night and so, butit was really fun, we had a
great trip and so it was tryingto, you know just you know make
your choices.
That's right.
That's right, it's a bigdecision.

Speaker 5 (04:34):
It's a big decision we got wet till May 1st, I think
is like the decision day forall yeah, we're getting there,
it's moving closer, movingcloser.

Speaker 3 (04:40):
So all right, very good, eve, good job, excellent
work.
Welcome home everybody Allright.
Yeah, let's get this knockedout.

Speaker 5 (04:46):
Lots going on in the world.
We had a pretty popular episodewith Darren White.
He's the mayoral candidate.
He's been on our show severaltimes before just talking about
crime, border stuff.
We've had him on.
You guys went to the bordertogether.

Speaker 3 (04:57):
Yeah, he's a good friend.

Speaker 5 (04:58):
He's.
He came on to talk specificallyabout running for mayor against
Tim Keller here in Albuquerque.
You guys sent in a lot ofquestions ahead of time.
We got some feedback from thatshow I would say mainly positive
.
We definitely there's somedings in his which is to be
expected, which he will, I'msure, answer at some point.
We hit him with the hardestquestions that you guys sent us.
But here's a couple of thecomments we got back afterwards.

(05:19):
This came in from MargaretGarcia through email.
She said thank you, pleaselet's encourage all other
candidates who are Republicansto stand behind one strong
candidate.
No fighting or division.
We need to show unity to defeatKeller.
Darren is our man and I will bevolunteering for his campaign
Very nice.
Another email came in.
It says it was refreshing tohear Darren's take on the city

(05:40):
and in particular Mark's MayorKeller.

Speaker 3 (05:43):
What yeah?

Speaker 5 (05:43):
Okay, what.

Speaker 3 (05:44):
Yeah, okay.

Speaker 5 (05:45):
What was that Keller's Is?

Speaker 3 (05:46):
that my mayor, like mayor Keller's my guy.
Um, I'm not sure actually Ithought you were going to edit
that Mark's opinion on mayorKeller.

Speaker 5 (05:55):
Yeah, I think that's what they were.
He was trying to refer to yeah.
Yeah.
And then it said Darren isright about the state of the
city since moving here in 2017.
I've been downtown once andthat was for jury duty.
The only place I felt safe wasin the courthouse.
We got a couple of comments onour YouTube channel, which
you're always welcome to makecomments there as well.
It says I will be voting foryou.

(06:15):
We need big change.
It's not safe here anymore.
Thank you for taking on thechallenge.
Joanne said so excited to hearthat Darren is going to run for
mayor.
Yay, makes my day.
And um, andrew says Darren, youwill start the trend.
Common sense politics makes NewMexico livable again.
So lots of I mean a ton ofcomments, very, all over the

(06:36):
place.

Speaker 3 (06:36):
Yeah, we had a lot of downloads on the podcast
version and then the YouTubeversion is good, so check them
out If you want to know whereDarren's coming from it's good
stuff.
And we pressed him on some ofthe marijuana stuff and things
like that, that, that that wemay have some differences with
him on, but it was.
It was interesting stuff.
Okay, I want to get to avariety of things.
I want to start with theeconomy and talking about what

(06:58):
could the administration be upto here and how.
It's an interesting play andwe're going to dive in pretty
deeply on this and it's aninteresting way to look at it.
And we're going to talk aboutwhat's happening with prices.
Are they coming down or arethey going up, right?
And then we're going to talkabout if there's going to be a
government shutdown, which is apossibility on Friday, but

(07:18):
hopefully that is not going tohappen.
We'll get into all that.
We're going to get into thestory here of Mahmoud Khalil,
who is this Columbia Universitystudent who organized pro-Hamas
protests, building takeovers,things like that.
Well, he's getting quite adefense.
He's getting a very robustdefense, which is interesting,
right, and we'll break that downas he's being shredded as well,

(07:39):
and some interesting aggressiveapproaches here with this
administration as well, and someinteresting aggressive
approaches here with thisadministration as well, trying
to defend themselves in a waythat is really, really strong.
And then I have an article youare going to love from the
Calgary Herald, which you haveto hear to believe, and then
some last light stuff that we'lldo at the end.

(08:00):
But I want to start with DavidFriedberg, who's an angel
investor, and he was on the AllIn podcast, and the reason we're
going to talk about this isbecause he's trying to talk
about what is the approach withthe economy.
What do you do with an economywhere you're trying to bring
more manufacturing back in,You're trying to deal with
massive amounts of debt, and howdo you bring interest rates
down?
How do you try to figure allthis stuff out at the same time?

(08:24):
And so he talks about the factthat he thinks this is a
three-pronged approach, and so Ithought it was a really
effective explanation of whatthe administration may be trying
to do, where it's not going tobe easy to do, it's going to be
tricky, but I think it's aninteresting approach.

Speaker 5 (08:41):
Okay, well, and also I mean I want to hear what he
has to say.
I don't know if you'd heard thebreaking news, though, that the
egg prices have actually gonedown lower than they've been
since Trump took office, sothank goodness you don't hear
any media really talking aboutthat, though you know the
Democrats aren't coming outtoday saying, hey, guess what
Egg prices actually have gonedown.

Speaker 3 (08:58):
Well, the approach is right.
The number one approach thatthey've got is bring energy
prices down.
You're going to bringeverything else down.
Energy prices are down, right,so you're starting to see eggs
come down.
You're going to start to seeeverything come down, because
energy affects everything.
Right?
If gas prices go through theroof, then transport of
everything goes through the roof, too, right, and so all that
happens, and also the there is.

Speaker 5 (09:15):
You know, the avian bird flu is legit and it started
in 2022.
So that is like a that is afallout that has been happening.
The egg thing, though, has justbeen like this thing that
they've all hopped on viralvideos of finally, the pricing
is dropping and I'm not seeingany viral videos.

Speaker 3 (09:30):
Oh, don't worry It'll , it'll drop that one Like a hot
potato.

Speaker 5 (09:34):
I'm like wait a minute.
Where's the viral video of youreggs now finally going down in?

Speaker 3 (09:37):
pricing.

Speaker 7 (09:38):
Okay, I'm just saying All right.

Speaker 5 (09:40):
So let's hear what David has to say.

Speaker 7 (09:42):
And I don't have any direct line of communication to
folks that are constructing thetheory and the policy.
If I were to say what's themost masterful plan, in an
optimistic way, of what could begoing on here, I would kind of
craft it as follows Tariffsaren't being done in isolation.
They're being done along with acoordinated policy effort to
reduce income taxes and anotherpolicy effort to reduce

(10:04):
government spending, and anotherpolicy effort to reduce
government spending.
So those are three legs on astool.

Speaker 3 (10:08):
Let's stop right there for one quick second, ok
so what he's saying is threedifferent things are going to be
happening at once, and they'reall interconnected.
Number one you've got to reduceincome taxes OK, so that you
can get money into the system,is what he's about to say, and
we'll go through this.
Number two you have to havetariffs because you need some

(10:29):
money to offset the reduction inincome taxes Okay, and then
reduce government spendingbecause you need those employees
right, you need those employeesthat the government hires and
employees to go into the privatesector.
We talked about that on thisshow, right.
We talked about the fact thatif you cut government spending,
you cut government jobs.
We desperately need people inthe private sector.

Speaker 5 (10:44):
You got Everybody's growing the economy in different
ways in different industries,but it's not just like just
slash and like, sorry, you don'thave a job anymore.
That's definitely not theapproach that that Trump is
trying to formulate here Right,so OK, so we'll keep going,
reduce government spending.

Speaker 7 (11:00):
They're related to each other because if we
increase tariffs to importproducts is more expensive when
the industrial supply chain goesto the lowest part of
production it's going to end upoffshoring when there's no
tariffs.
And if there are tariffs thenyou start to do production here.
So you're increasing bothsecurity for the US supply chain
but also increasing demand andcreation of a workforce.

(11:21):
I think that the income taxpiece is critical here, because
in order to make the capitalavailable to build that industry
here, we need to unleashcapital and reducing of income
taxes.
The economic theory would bethat capital will now flow into
these entrepreneurial activity,these opportunities that have
emerged where suddenly it makessense for me to make textiles,
to make metals, to makematerials, to make cars, to make

(11:43):
all this stuff here in theUnited States that I otherwise
wouldn't be making.
So both the corporate and thepersonal income tax, by reducing
it, unleashes capital thatinstead of going into the
government it now goes into theprivate sector, into building
businesses.
By reducing government spendingwe are moving workers from the
government into the privateworkforce.
So as those new industries popup, as those investments start
to get made in building newindustry onshore, where are the

(12:05):
workers going to come from?
That will unleash the workforceand it will counterbalance the
inflation that we'reexperiencing.
So there's a lot of inflationbecause of tariffs and by
reducing government spending,that's the offset to inflation.
So those three actions, I think, are three legs of a stool and
they actually are allinterrelated to one another.
So that would be my grandmastertheory of what might be going
on.

Speaker 3 (12:24):
Interesting, right, it's super interesting stuff,
stuff we've talked about alittle bit before, especially
the part where you start to movepeople from the government
sector to the private sector.
Here and again, those tax cutsare critical too, because you
need the revenue or you need themoney for businesses to spend,
to invest here, and obviouslythe tariffs, but those are not
easy things to do.
Those are big changes andthat's a big alteration in what

(12:47):
happens here.
And there's also a biggeralteration too, which we're
going to get into in a second,on the way we spend money as a
country across the world.
Right, we have been bankrollingthe world for a long time and
we're so deeply in debt that wecan't keep doing that.
So we do have to readjust thesethings, and I think voters
understand that.
Now, leaders who may oppose thisdon't right.

(13:09):
So there's a battle, and themedia doesn't always understand
it too.
So Secretary of Commerce HowardLutnick talked a little bit
about this as well, and hetalked about the approach to the
economy.
And it's interesting because ifyou listened to the nature of
the question you're about tohear here and this is Lutnik,
and again this is more clarityfor you on where this

(13:29):
administration we think is going, and because the stock market's
been tanking recently and it'sway up on Wednesday, but it's
been tanking I think there'sreal concern.
There's people saying, oh mygosh, what is going on?
Are we going to contract?
Are we going to go intorecession?
What's happening here?
This is chaos.
What do we do?
So?
This is a reordering of oureconomy to get us to a point

(13:50):
where we can afford to operateagain, and this was an
interesting pushback fromLutnick.

Speaker 6 (13:55):
And are you worried that at some point Americans are
going to feel like there's abunch of billionaires in
Washington who are playingRussian roulette with our
retirement.

Speaker 10 (14:15):
Two trillion dollar deficits don't bother you at all
.
How could you ask me, whilewe're running a two trillion
dollar deficit and not care,you're destroying.
The people who have run thiscountry before are destroying
the future for my children andmy children's children.
I can't have a 50, 75.
We have a $36 trillion deficitand we used to run deficits of

(14:35):
$400 billion.
Now $2 trillion.
Who cares?
I tell you what.
Who cares?
Donald Trump cares.
And when we balance the budget,you know what that means.
That means our deficits stop.
Interest rates come smashingdown.
His goal is to have externalrevenue.
You know the way I think aboutit.
We all are so used to payingtaxes, we're so used to it, we

(14:58):
have like Stockholm syndrome.
You know.
Don't stop the Internal RevenueService, god forbid.
How about this?
The rest of the world leans onour economy, breathes off our
economy.
Not only is our economy $29trillion GDP, but we consume $20
trillion a year.
We are the buyer of everybody'sstuff.

(15:21):
We buy everybody's stuff.
So who is more important, thepeople who sell stuff or the
people who buy stuff?
So we are the buyer ofeverybody's commodities,
products, goods and services.
Everything comes from us.
Right, let them pay amembership fee.

(15:42):
We all understand that model.
Let them pay.
How about we you and I andevery single person we know pay
less?
How about no tax on tips?
How about no tax on overtime?
How about no social security?
How about all those things?

Speaker 3 (15:57):
Okay, interesting, that dovetails.

Speaker 5 (15:59):
No tax on social security by the way.

Speaker 3 (16:01):
Yeah, he meant no tax , not no social security.
Yeah, no social security.
No, you're absolutely right,it're absolutely it's
interesting.

Speaker 5 (16:05):
I've heard, you know, trump was talking.
Just the other day, too, Iheard a quick snippet from him
saying listen, china has ahundred year economy plan that
they put into place.
America is quarterly right.
And he's like how we look atsomething so temporarily and we
panic or we go, you know, andhe's like we got to be and he's
like we got to be, you know,longer thinking country.

(16:26):
We got to be planning longerterm.
So, yes, there's going to be alot of bumps that we're going to
hit right now, but he's like inthe long run, if we don't do
this, we're going to comecrumbling down.
And I think people I think thisguy's right.
I think people look at the.
They're like what's thedifference between 400 billion
and 2 trillion in debt?
Like it's just debt and we justprint more money.
I think people have started tothink of us as monopoly and I

(16:47):
think people you know, really,once you start adding too many
zeros, people are like I don'treally comprehend that anymore
and therefore, how big of acrisis can it be?
Our country's still running,right, I mean that's what they
think.
And so I think that that'sinteresting to say no, no, no,
no.
You don't understand.
In six to nine months, if wecan't refinance this, we're
going to be closing down hugeindustries in this country, and

(17:09):
I don't think that the pressurehas been put on or the
information has been allowed tobe out there enough to the
consumer to actually understandthat that's what's happening.

Speaker 3 (17:18):
Yeah, I think it's a really good point and I think
that in the political sphereit's so easy to be like don't
cut, don't cut, don't cut.
You think it's going to be fine, but I will say I don't think
there's truly an understandingfrom the other side right now of
realizing wait a minute, we'reon the wrong side of this,
because most voters are likeyeah, we, we know we have to do
some of this now, when it getsreally painful, that's a problem

(17:40):
.
So so the big issue is inLutnick.
There, what he talked about,we're actually reinforced what
Friedberg said just before.
Listen to what he said.
He said basically tariffs right, you have to do some tariffs so
you can cut taxes on Americans,so we're not footing the bill
for everybody all the time.

Speaker 5 (17:54):
And keeping in mind really fast on that tariff point
, I also have been hearing thatsome of the tariffs that we're
being paying have been like at300% for some of the tariffs,
Some are yeah For some of thetariffs some of the consumer
products that come into ourcountry, and so when, when Trump
is trying to balance thosetariffs back out, you know
basically like get a fair tradedeal, basically at the end of
the day.
I don't think people understandthat either.

Speaker 3 (18:14):
Well, there is some of that.
And then there's some of whatLetnick said there, which was we
are the buyer, right, we arethe buyer.
So therefore we are a massiveclient, basically Right.
And so a lot of people puttheir goods into the United
States and we just let them comein, okay, well, then then we
end up paying tax levels,especially at the higher income
levels, of 50% by the timeyou're all said and done.

(18:35):
Well, that takes revenue out ofthe U S economy and puts it
into a massive governmentstructure, which again is
bankrupting us.
So you have to adjust it right.
You have to flow more moneyinto the economy, pull less
money out of Americans' pocketsand allow that economy to start
churning again.
It's a total recalibration.
So that's why I wanted to showthose.

(18:56):
It's interesting, it's a bit ofa deep dive.
We're not economists, but atleast we have an idea, you know,
in listening to what smartpeople are saying, to give you
an idea of what we think ishappening here, and so it is
fascinating to watch, and Ithink that it is going to take
some time and it's not going tobe an easy process.
So what would be the one thingthat would really stop all of

(19:17):
this, and that is prices.
Right, if you look at pricesand we continue to see inflation
skyrocket, we have a problem,right?
Trump won't at prices and wecontinue to see inflation
skyrocket.
We have a problem, right?
Trump won't be able to do anyof this because everybody's
going to go wait a minute.
I'm dying here, okay.
So I want to go to clip eight.
First day, we're going to jumparound a little bit, so let's go
to clip eight.
And this is critical becauseCNN just came out with the new

(19:39):
numbers on what's happening withinflation.

Speaker 13 (19:44):
Finally, we have some good news on the economy
and really the number one issuefor many Americans the cost of
living.
So we just learned thatconsumer prices in February
increased by 2.8% year over year, 0.2% month over month.
Both of these figures were astep in the right direction and
both were better than expected.
So this is definitely veryencouraging to see because it's

(20:08):
going to, I think, relieve somefears that inflation was perhaps
re-accelerating, because thisactually breaks a streak of four
straight months where I thinkyou could see it on the chart
all the way to the right, wherethe inflation rate was going in
the wrong direction.
Right, it was going higher andhigher.

Speaker 3 (20:24):
Finally, we're seeing it dip.
Okay, and that's interestingbecause I think some of the bet
here is on energy right.
So if you can keep energyprices down and allow that
inflation to stay in check, thatwill give Trump the breathing
room to try to readjust the waythe economy works.
It's interesting.
I don't know if it's going towork, I don't know, you know,

(20:44):
but we wanted to give you anidea of what we think the logic
is behind all of this from alayman's point of view, because
that's the only way we canreally look at it.
It's from a layman's point ofview.
But now the question thenbecomes okay, as this is all
happening, are the people,especially the voters,
supporting this, especially thecuts?
Right when you start?

Speaker 5 (21:02):
looking at these stories that come out and it's
so-and-so lost their job.
They've been with the companyfor however many years.
This poor person doesn't have ajob anymore.
We're mean.
Well, you know, understandably.
So we've talked about.
Our heart does go out to peoplewho are losing their jobs.
That's not, obviously, whatanybody wants to deal with.
But again, if you can't affordsomething and our country can't

(21:23):
afford certain projects anymoreand funding everything, there
has to be cuts made.
So there has to be thisunderstanding of like.
It's just like taking yoursmall house budget and saying,
well, what's feasible here?
I would love to keep eating outat dinner every night because I
think it's great and so fun.
The reality check is you can'tdo that or you're not gonna be
able to pay your electric bill.
So at some point you're gonnahave to go home and make some

(21:48):
frozen dinners or something tobe able to make up for that.

Speaker 3 (21:49):
And again, I know that sounds callous maybe and
I'm not trying to make it soundcallous at all- but there is a
reality check that I think.

Speaker 5 (21:54):
When you start trying to see these heart bleeding
stories about somebody that losttheir job, the reality check is
there's going to be a lot ofpeople that are going to lose
their jobs because the federalgovernment has to make some
severe cuts to make thisactually pay off for all the
taxpayers.

Speaker 3 (22:08):
And do people realize that?
Well, Harry Anton says they maywell realize that Cut seven the
cuts that Doge is bringingabout.

Speaker 12 (22:16):
How are they feeling ?
Yeah, this, to me, was one ofthe more shocking figures that I
saw.
Made me go wait a minute.
Hold on one second.
Whoa, Americans on Trump andJoe's efforts.
Musk and Doge should influencegovernment spending and
operations.
Look at this Fifty four percent.
The majority say that he andthey should.
How about a proof of Trumptrying to cut staff at
government agencies?

(22:37):
Again, you get a majority here.
Fifty one percent.
So, yeah, Elon Musk might notbe that popular, but these cuts
and the idea of spending cuts atleast within the federal
government and cutting atgovernment agencies, that
actually has majority support.
I was truly surprised by this,Kate, but the numbers are the
numbers.

Speaker 8 (22:53):
Well there is.
There is a view that cutsacross, democrat and Republican,
of people thinking thatWashington is too big.
Bloated federal government,waste, fraud and abuse I mean
those are drain.
The swamp is what people run onover and over again.
How do they feel?
What do they think they'reactually cutting?

Speaker 12 (23:08):
Yeah, what do they think they're actually cutting?
Democrats want to argue thatthe type of spending that Musk
is cutting is mainly necessaryprograms, but that comes in at
just 36 percent.
The wasteful spending actuallywins the plurality here, at 42
percent, according to a recentWashington Post, and I think
that is the reason why.
You see that when it comes toDusk and Mose, musk and Doge,

(23:28):
you see, in fact the majoritybelieve he should have some
influence because they believethe plurality, believe that he
is cutting wasteful spending,not necessary programs that
Democrats are arguing.

Speaker 3 (23:38):
Okay.
So that shows you there's someunderstanding of saying wait a
minute, we need to cut thesethings.
And again, this stuff does makesense.
People are sticking with it.
Now, again, it's only beenseven, eight weeks.
Right, it's not been very long,and so that's why prices have
to come down to give thebreathing room to do what needs
to be done.
And again we've talked aboutthis on this show that there's

(23:59):
gotta be some understanding andsome compassion for people who
have to reorient their lives.
There's no doubt that's not aneasy thing to do, but I think
you also have a lot of competentpeople that will be able to do
that.

Speaker 5 (24:10):
Okay, so here's a quick question then.
So things that I think thatneed to happen to kind of help
propel this even from a PR frontright is we've talked about how
Elon Musk has to be more mature, basically more responsible in
his messaging.
We've talked about that in acouple different shows.
It kind of seems odd to me.
Now you can support, back thisup if you think this doesn't
seem odd.
Why is Trump selling out, goingout and selling like a Tesla on

(24:35):
the lawns of the of the WhiteHouse right now?
Like why is that important when, I'm sorry, elon Musk doesn't
need the publicity for his Tesla?
They've got 49% of the marketshare, so why do we care?
Like, why is he?
I don't think it serves thepeople.
When you have Elon Muskbasically being the bad guy
right for these cuts okay, he'sthe face of the cuts at the end
of the day, right, he's not theone that can employ the cuts,

(24:57):
but he's still the face of it.
And then you have Trump comingin and saying well, the best
electric car you can buy todayis is the Tesla, and Elon's
saying saving billions ofdollars for this country.
He's taking too much hit, he'staking too much heat.
I want to support Elon, sohere's his Tesla.
I think I disagree.

(25:17):
I don't think that was a goodmove on Trump.
I don't think Elon needs theplug.
Well, I think he does need theplug, quite frankly.
But OK, he's a billionaire, hedoesn't.

Speaker 3 (25:27):
Yes, he does.
You won't be a billionaire forlong if your business tanks, so
so hold on.
So so, first of all, I think acouple of things.
American presidents stand upfor American products all the
time, right, you just do.
American presidents stand upfor American products all the
time, right, you just do.
Tesla is the best batterypowered car made in the world.
Arguably it's an American madeautomobile.

(25:49):
Okay, okay, joe Biden regularlyhe got in a Jeep and drove
around the South lawn.
Now, whether that was plannedor not, who really knows.

Speaker 5 (25:58):
I don't think we should be imitating anything
that Biden does, right?
I don't think that's a greatmove.

Speaker 3 (26:02):
I'm just saying, but it is, american presidents
oftentimes will stand up forAmerican products, and I'll tell
you, musk has to.
This is a funny reorientationtoo, because on the left they
loved Musk.
Five years ago, everybodybought a Teslala, and now it's
like oh my gosh, I hate tesla.
How do you hate tesla?

(26:23):
It's an incredible product,right, and so you're gonna see
conservatives all of a suddenstart driving teslas, like this
is crazy, right.
Yeah, so it is just an absoluteonce again, 180, where you will
start to see more and moreconservatives driving teslas
around.

Speaker 5 (26:37):
Absolutely gonna happen well, you won't see me
doing it, not, not.
I'd love to get one, but it hadto be a third car, I think, but
.
But I would love we've taughtwe got close on one, uh-huh we
got close on one, so I actuallydrove it and I was like, yeah, I
can't do this.
It's like a self-driving caralmost and I can't do that well
it's too type a, it's going tohappen.

Speaker 3 (26:54):
It's going to happen, it's just a matter of when and
how it all works out.

Speaker 5 (26:57):
But I'll be the last one on the bus We'll see They've
got one.

Speaker 3 (26:59):
That's a thousand horsepower.
I got to give it a shot.
I'm just saying but?
But the point is that thepresidents often do that.
I get it.
It seems like you know, whenTrump is one of those guys, it's
out, he's always selling.
He's always selling something.
So true, I just think thetiming was not great.

Speaker 5 (27:14):
I think again, think again.
You need trump out there sayinglisten, I know some of these
cuts are hard, I understand andbacking him in a different way
you don't need to go pitch hiscar you just need to say listen,
the guy is still doing whatI've asked him to do.
He doesn't have ultimatecutting power.
You know, we've reigned him ina little bit and he's giving us
great ideas, but it's still upto the department heads of who's
gonna go and who's gonna stay Ithink you're.

Speaker 3 (27:34):
I think that's all I'm saying.
I think it's fair, that's allI'm saying.
I think it's a fair no, no, no,no.
I think it's a very fair pointyou make.
I think it's a very fair point.
However, I still was fascinatedby the thousand.
Oh, I know Cause you like cars.
You're like, oh, let's talkabout cars, let's talk about
that.
Sorry, I didn't mean to go that.

Speaker 5 (27:54):
Okay, so Now we go to the Senate.
I believe they need 60 votes,something like that, to not shut
down come midnight Friday.
I believe.

Speaker 3 (28:02):
Yes, exactly right.

Speaker 5 (28:04):
And so the question is can they get to the 60 votes
in the Senate?

Speaker 3 (28:07):
Right, and so because you have 53 Republican senators
, ok, you're going to needsomewhere around seven or eight
Democrats to come in and votewith Republicans to keep the
government open.
So this is actually onDemocrats They'll be able to
make the decision on whether thegovernment shuts down or not.
Now, this is a delicious flipfrom where things have been in

(28:29):
the past.
Okay, so let's start withSenate Majority Leader John
Thune, who says, okay, veryclearly, we're ready to keep the
government open and keep thingsgoing.
I got all my voters ready toroll.
So here's what Thune said andwhere he places the
responsibility.

Speaker 9 (28:44):
And so here we are on the brink of a government
shutdown, which will be entirelyof the Democrats making, if it
happens, because the House todaywill be voting on a continuing
resolution to fund thegovernment throughout the end of
the year and we'll send thatover of the year and we'll send
that over here to the Senatewhere we'll have an opportunity
to act on it.
A similar continuing resolutionpassed the end of last year in

(29:07):
the Senate with 85 votes.
This one should be no different, honestly.
But as you all know, it takes60 votes in the Senate to pass
an appropriations bill, so we'regoing to need some Democrats to
vote for it.
The Democrats have used thefilibuster three times this year
already, despite arguing forits elimination as recently as a
few months ago, but three timesthis year they've already

(29:29):
filibustered bills in front ofthe Senate.
I think the American people aregoing to be interested to see
whether the Democrats are goingto filibuster and, by
filibustering, shut down thefederal government.
It is on them.
If this happens, there is afunding vehicle available,
coming over from the House ofRepresentatives that will fund
the government through the endof the fiscal year, september

(29:51):
30th, and we are prepared totake it up here in the Senate
and make sure that on Friday thegovernment stays open.

Speaker 3 (29:58):
But it will be up to.
So there it is right.
Whether or not it is, it is avery clear choice.

Speaker 5 (30:02):
And so is it clear that the the all the Republicans
will vote in the Senate infavor of this.

Speaker 3 (30:06):
Yeah, yeah, it's my belief.
So, so, and then and then again, you'll need seven, maybe eight
, whatever.
Before, with 85 votes the lasttime they did this.
Ok, but now who knows ifthey're going to shut it down.
Well, if you go back and I'mold enough to remember two years
ago, when this sort of stuffhappened, and just a couple of

(30:27):
quick little soundbites from ourfriends on the Democratic side
on how devastating a governmentshutdown could be.

Speaker 13 (30:35):
Believe in governance.
We want to keep government open.
A shutdown is very serious.

Speaker 7 (30:40):
There are real consequences when the government
shuts down it harms ournational security, it harms our
economy and it harms servicemembers, veterans, retirees and
vulnerable communities.

Speaker 5 (30:55):
We all know a shutdown is unnecessary and
completely avoidable.

Speaker 8 (30:58):
The tragedy here is all the civilian employees.
It is the American people whoare going to suffer.

Speaker 13 (31:05):
Border Patrol agents will not be paid.

Speaker 3 (31:10):
Tsa agents will not be paid.
Small businesses will be hurt,not only is it irresponsible?
And purposely misleading, it isdangerous precedent Okay, so
there you see, it's just suchphoniness, right?
So we'll see what happens in theSenate.
Again, I can't, I don't know.

(31:31):
I mean, we'll see what happens,because I'm about to show you
something that I'm flabbergastedby.
That is like driving your caroff a political cliff.
So will they do it again?
They might, they might, theymight just shut things down.
I don't know, um, but we'll see.
I would hope they would not,but we'll see what happens.

Speaker 5 (31:50):
Okay, and Friday midnight, that's when they're
we're supposed to know.

Speaker 3 (31:52):
That's when we'll know.
I think we'll know before then.
Okay, honestly Okay.
So talking about an issue thatis crazy to me politically, okay
.
So talking about an issue thatis crazy to me politically, okay
, and we're going to use as anexample of this Connecticut
Senator Chris Murphy, he cameout and is defending Mahmoud
Khalil.
Now Mahmoud Khalil is someonewho organized the pro-Hamas

(32:14):
protests at Columbia University.
Remember when they took overbuildings Right?
They destroyed the inside ofbuildings.

Speaker 5 (32:20):
They called it mainly peaceful.

Speaker 3 (32:21):
I don't know if you heard that or not Other than you
couldn't get to campus.

Speaker 5 (32:24):
You couldn't get to class.
Yeah, you took over buildings,you cracked, you broke windows
and did all kinds of things.

Speaker 3 (32:30):
Yeah, so this guy this guy had a visa student visa
that turned into a green card.
Okay, he is, he is not.
He does not have all the rightsof an American citizen.
Ok, he does not because he isnot.
Ok, but Chris Murphy comes outthere and so what happened was
the Trump administrationbasically is going to revoke his
, his green card and they'regoing to send him home because

(32:52):
of what he's done.
And again, don't forget whatthey're doing, which is
basically advocating for theextermination of Jews.
I mean it's awful, right, it isawful.

Speaker 5 (33:02):
And my understanding is now a judge has put kind of a
postponement on his him beingable to leave or whatever.

Speaker 3 (33:09):
I'm not, yeah, and he's being held right now.

Speaker 5 (33:11):
He's being held, I think, in Louisiana, yeah,
louisiana, yeah, and that ajudge has said hold the phone
really quickly on this, whichI'm like okay again, like again,
I think, the clarity of thegreen card.
People think, oh, it's anAmerican citizen, it's not it's
different.

Speaker 3 (33:24):
It's just a different .
It's different level, right?
So let's listen to a little bitof Chris Murphy.
We'll cut them off here alittle bit, but I want you to
get a feel for where he's goingwith this.
But again, this is a bonkersposition for a party to take to
go and support someone who istrying to advocate for the
slaughter that we saw on October7th.
It's awful, and the fact thatthey the only thing they know is

(33:46):
how to oppose Trump that's theonly thing they know.
So the minute they have to doit, they just take the other
side, doesn't matter what it is.
Once again, they're taking the20% of an 80-20 issue.
Here's Chris Murphy in all hisglory.

Speaker 6 (33:58):
A young man by the name of Mahmoud Khalil, an
immigrant and a legal permanentresident of the United States,
is being held right now inprison, even though no criminal
charges have been filed againsthim.
Now I want to tell you why thatshould matter to every single
American.
Khalil is a recent graduate ofColumbia University.
He opposed Israel's militaryoperation in Gaza.
He has deep animus towardIsrael's policies and the US

(34:21):
support for those policies.
He helped organize the protestsover Gaza at his university
last year.
You can disagree with his viewsor his politics, but there is
no evidence he has broken anylaw.
Weekend, trump officialsentered his apartment and took
him into custody.
They brought him to a detentionfacility in New Jersey at first

(34:42):
, but when his family went tovisit him, he wasn't there For a
while.
His family and his lawyer hadno idea where he was.
They eventually found out thathe was being held in a detention
facility in Louisiana, andthat's where he still is today.
In dictatorships, they call thispractice being disappeared.
No charges, no claims ofcriminal behavior.

(35:03):
The White House doesn't claimhe did anything criminal.
He's in jail because of hispolitical speech, and here's why
everybody should care.
In America, your politicalspeech is protected, whether or
not the president likes what yousay.
But today, if you're loyal toDonald Trump, your speech is
going to be protected, even ifit's hate speech.

(35:24):
You can be Marco Ellis, anemployee of Doge, who said he
quote was racist before it wascool, and quote normalize Indian
hate and the vice president ofthe United States will tweet in
your defense.
But if you are disloyal toTrump or you're organizing
against Trump's political agenda, your speech could be

(35:45):
criminalized.

Speaker 3 (35:46):
OK, so there it is.
So there's what he's getting atand it's ludicrous.
This guy literally isadvocating to what effectively
amounts to students at Columbiawere told to stay in their rooms
.
Amounts to students at Columbiawere told to stay in their
rooms.
Don't forget, we showed youvideo on this show.
Students at UCLA were accostedas they went to class because of

(36:06):
things like this.
So this is not about freespeech, chris Murphy.
I mean.
This is about you supportingsomeone who advocates for
exterminating a people, I mean.
And, by the way, you don't havethose rights in this country to
do that.
So let's go to Marco Rubio, whodestroys his argument, and
Secretary of State Rubio.
Very clear points we're goingto hear from Rubio and from Mike

(36:28):
Johnson, the Speaker of theHouse, but first let's start
with Marco Rubio, who moreclearly explains exactly what's
happening here and why ChrisMurphy is on the wrong side of
yet another issue.

Speaker 1 (36:39):
Okay, as a visitor, which is what a visa is, which
is how this individual enteredthis country as a visitor's visa
.
You are here as a visitor.
We can deny you that visa.
We can deny you that If youtell us when you apply.
Hi, I'm trying to get into theUnited States on a student visa.
I am a big supporter of Hamas,a murderous, barbaric group that
kidnaps children, that rapesteenage girls, that takes

(37:09):
hostages, that allows them todie in captivity, that returns
more bodies than live hostages.
If you tell us that you are infavor of a group like this, and
if you tell us when you applyfor your visa and, by the way, I
intend to come to your countryas a student and rile up all
kinds of anti-Jewish student,anti-semitic activities I intend
to shut down your universities.
If you told us all these thingswhen you applied for a visa, we
would deny your visa.
I hope we would.
If you actually end up doingthat once you're in this country

(37:29):
on such a visa, we will revokeit.
And if you end up having agreen card not citizenship, but
a green card as a result of thatvisa, while you're here in
those activities, we're going tokick you out.
It's as simple as that.
This is not about free speech.
This is about people that don'thave a right to be in the
United States to begin with.
No one has a right to a studentvisa.

(37:50):
No one has a right to a greencard, by the way.
So when you apply for a studentvisa or any visa to enter the
United States, we have a rightto deny you for virtually any
reason.
But I think, being a supporterof Hamas and coming into our
universities and turning themupside down and being complicit
in what are clearly crimes ofvandalization, complicit in
shutting down learninginstitutions.
There are kids at these schoolsthat can't go to class.
You pay all this money to thesehigh-priced schools that are

(38:12):
supposed to be of great esteemand you can't even go to class.
You're afraid to go to classbecause these lunatics are
running around with covers ontheir face, screaming terrifying
things.
If you told us that's what youintended to do when you came to
America, we would have never letyou in.
And if you and if you do itonce you get in, we're going to
revoke it and kick you out.

Speaker 3 (38:29):
There it is.
I mean, very well said, verywell said, and it's not just
Rubio, right?
So Mike Johnson went toColumbia.
The speaker of the house wentto Columbia when all this was
happening.
He talked to these people faceto face, and when you talk about
the chaos that ensued andtaking over buildings and
destroying things in buildings,this is the sort of thing you're

(38:50):
seeing regularly in Europe, andso we can either put our foot
in the ground in this countryand say, no, you don't get to
destroy the fabric of thiscountry with your anti-Semitism.
You don't get to do it.
Sorry, that's not what we'reabout.
And so if we don't stand firmon this and stand up for these
things, it's ridiculous, andagain you're going to see a
continued decay in what happensin this society, because we're

(39:12):
not an anti-Semitic society.
We're not, and this country'sworked hard not to be.
This country's worked hard onits racial views for a long,
long time.
And so I want you to justlisten to what Mike Johnson says
here, and again he's very clearon blowing Murphy's argument
out of the water.

Speaker 14 (39:31):
What crime did Mahmoud El-Ghazal commit to?

Speaker 4 (39:34):
warrant his arrest, detention and potential eviction
.
Let me tell you something.
I went face down the angry mobat Columbia at the height of
that stuff, when thepro-Palestinian, pro-Hamas
protesters were there.
I'm telling you this is my ownobservation, not something I
read in a newspaper.
It was dangerous.
I met with Jewish studentsbefore we went to campus who
were holed away off campusbecause they were instructed by

(39:55):
the administration not to cometo class which they paid for,
for fear of their physicalsafety.
The administrators thererefused to take control of that
campus.
They refused to allow the PD tocome, the police department to
come in and take control, and itturned into a chaos.
The president has since beenremoved and now they got the
same problem again.
Columbia and other universitiesthey have to keep control of

(40:16):
campus.
The first responsibility of anadministration is ensuring the
safety of the students who arepaying tuition to be there for
crying out loud.
This madness has to stop.
We have to get control of it.
This guy apparently was amastermind of those very things
when the gnashing of teeth andthe ripping of clothes and the
people screaming at me, wantingto rip me limb from limb because
I was there talking about moralclarity and how there's a right

(40:38):
and a wrong.
They were doing that.
They disrupted the campus.
They were threatening physicalviolence of their fellow
students.
If you're on a student visa,I'm going to say this clearly If
you are on a student visa andyou're in America and you're an
aspiring young terrorist whowants to prey upon your Jewish
classmates, you're going home.
We're going to arrest your tailand we're going to send you

(40:59):
home, where you belong, and thatthis is just getting started.
So look, I I appreciate freespeech.
I used to defend it in courts,but this is far beyond the pale
of that.
When you are threatening yourclassmates and spewing
anti-Semitism and all thishatred, it's enough, and I think
the American people understandthat.
They're supporting it, and I'mglad we have a president who's
strong enough to lay down thelaw the law, there you go.

Speaker 5 (41:24):
Yeah, I mean in trump .
You know many people alreadyknow he's already cut like, I
think, 400 million dollars fromcolumbia specifically because of
some of this activity, untilthey get things in line.
You know he's like listen, noenough, enough of federal money
coming your way if you're notgoing to protect all the
students that are paying to goto your schools.

Speaker 3 (41:39):
You know yeah, it's, but thinking you would defend
him as being the right to.
I mean it's, it's crazy.
It's like it's like you know,when you go online and they're
the first ones to say you knowyou shouldn't be able to say
these things online, but yetthis guy can do this.
Yeah, I mean, chris, are youcrazy, chris Murphy?
I mean you're walking out andsaying that you should not be

(41:59):
able to say things on Twitter asan American.
Back and forth, that it doesnot promise violence.
By the way, this guy doessupports a group that
slaughtered Israelis on October7th 2023.

Speaker 5 (42:12):
I mean it's crazy and has been deemed terrorist to
the United States.
So I mean the United States hasbeen very clear in the sand
that Hamas is a terroristorganization.
So when you are pro Hamas andyou're coming to our schools and
then you're anti, basicallyyou're anti-Semitic, which is
also anti-American.
They're also very muchanti-American in a lot of ways.

Speaker 3 (42:29):
There's no doubt they want to tear down in the group
he's with wants to tear downWestern culture.

Speaker 5 (42:33):
They've said it yeah.

Speaker 3 (42:33):
They've said it so, so there you go.
I mean but, yeah, ChrisMurphy's making sure this guy
gets it.
It's just, they just keepstepping in it.
Every single time it's like,hey, where's the 20%?
I got to get in there, I got toget in on this, and then they
did it again with Tom yeah.

Speaker 5 (42:48):
Tom Homan's up in Albany, new York, at the state
Capitol protesters showing upfor Tom Homan.
So let's show a little bit ofthis.
Yeah, do you have a littletaste of what he's dealing with.

Speaker 3 (42:56):
Yeah, you can bring up the people.
Come through, homans.
There they're all screaming attom homan.
What's he doing?

Speaker 5 (43:11):
he's taking criminals out of the country and just
listen to what he, what they'resaying to homans waiting to him,
by the way, yeah, that'sprotected screaming at him.

Speaker 3 (43:16):
Do you believe in the first amendment?
Yeah, sure, yeah, everybodybelieves in the first amendment.
You don't get to commit crimesin this country and then stay
here.
Sorry, yeah, I just not the wayit works.
I do not understand it.

Speaker 5 (43:28):
I just think it's people have lost their minds,
like they're blending thedreamers in with violent
offenders, right, and somehowthey can't seem to dictate what
is what and what trump isactually going after and what
home is actually going after.
I don't understand it.
I don't understand sanctuarycity policies.
I never will.
You'll never get me to agree toany of that.

Speaker 3 (43:46):
I do not understand it so no, it's, it's crazy, and
I will say this administrationhas done much more, has been
just much more aggressive abouthow they deal with people, not
only in a policy sense, whichwe'll show you in a second, but
in a oh, I don't know mockingsense as well, and I think
Michael Moore is a good exampleof that.
So you can read Michael Moore'scomment on what he said on the

(44:09):
deportations.

Speaker 5 (44:10):
Okay, he says who's really being removed by ICE
tonight?
The child who would havediscovered the cure for cancer
in 2046?
The ninth grade nerd who wouldhave stopped that asteroid
that's going to hit us in 2032?
Do we care?
Okay?

Speaker 3 (44:24):
So what did the White House's the what did the white
house have to say about that?

Speaker 5 (44:27):
Michael Moore is free to visit the quantum computing
and particle physics lab that MS13 and TDA and the cartels are
now going to have to set up backhome in El Salvador, venezuela
and Mexico.

Speaker 3 (44:38):
So I mean just that sort of thing, just talking
about the ludicrousness of thesestatements and the dishonesty
of the media.
So what we see in this, too, isthere are all these different
department heads that end upfighting it out because they're
trying to talk about you've gotto bring down the total cost of
government as you do, that eachdepartment is going to have to

(44:59):
cut.
You're going to have to dealwith that Now.
Oftentimes, though and we'veseen this many times with local
media well, they'll they'll getout ahead of their skis and
they'll say all these cuts arepotentially happening.

Speaker 5 (45:10):
They might be coming soon, yeah.
I mean honestly, there was theMSNB.
We don't have it in here, butwe had an MSNBC story.
Rachel Maddow got on there andsaid that Rocky mountain
national park was going to beshut down for the summer.
Right, estes park local downfor the summer.
Estes Park local media had tocome in Estes Park's local media
like a little tiny paper had tocome in and basically said
there's actually been noverification of that.

(45:34):
That story is actually not true,so there's going to be some
cuts to staffing.
We're not closing the park forthe summer.
Please still show up.
So again, it's like you have tobe responsible in what you
report on.

Speaker 3 (45:40):
It's crazy, and so what I want to play for you is
VA Secretary Doug Collins.
It's crazy, and so what I wantto play for you is VA Secretary
Doug Collins, which what he doeshere is beautiful.
So he is going one-on-one witha reporter who he absolutely
dismantles, but not in a waythat's super confrontational,
but it's almost like thatcollege professor who's like,
who just destroys you becauseyour argument does not hold, and

(46:05):
this was incredibly well done.
But this is the sort of thingthat is happening across the
board here, and just listen tothe words they use when they try
to describe the VA cuts andwhat the reality actually is.

Speaker 11 (46:20):
One of the things that I've been finding.
We got into it a little bit inthe discussion, but one of the
issues that we're having is andit's something here I need your
help on something.
I need your help because all Iseem to be doing lately is
fighting back against innuendoand rumor stories, and this is
what I seem to be fighting aboutall the time.
In fact, patricia, part of itis with you.
I'm sure.
And I just need your helpbecause when you start headlines

(46:42):
with, there's a rumor goingaround and that we've heard that
that hurts my veterans, thatscares my veterans, that scares
my employees, because it's nottrue, will you commit to not
doing that in the future?
Well, there was a Dogerepresentative that day.
I have a VA employee who is ourDoge liaison.
You knew that and you could askthat question.

(47:04):
I did ask that question and yougot the answer.
But my question here is I needyou to commit to not starting
off.
Rumors began circulating Well,it's either true or false,
patricia and then you go toPatty Murphy saying that we've
heard and DOJ may have bargedinto the VA today Unconfirmed
hearsay.
You know what you would havedone if I was a member of
Congress and probably done thatUnconfirmed report?

(47:25):
But you didn't put anunconfirmed report Right.
So, patricia, I want to worktogether with you, okay, but I
need you to commit to me thatyou're not going to do this.
I'm working on it and I have Ihave been.
Oh, actually, I have anotherquestion based on that.
Thank you very much.
No, I want to hear the answerfirst.
Are you committing not to dorumors Because you're scaring my
VA employees about this?
That's fair and you're scaringmy veterans?

(47:46):
That's not something I takelightly, but if a rumor is
different than if I have asource, then you source it to
our PR people and let them know,because you know something.
I've got people who arereporting stuff right now who
aren't even calling us.
They don't even get somethingfrom us, they don't even call us
to check it.

Speaker 3 (48:04):
Well, that's not right, okay so he's just eating
her up, but it's just super welldone.
I mean right, and so she's justlike yeah, yeah, yeah.
To no place to go.
Listen to the words she'ssaying.

Speaker 5 (48:17):
There are rumors that Well, and I hope that people
are paying enough attention tothat, even listening to local
media stories where it's like,well, this could potentially be
happening.
Okay, well, until it'shappening, why are you reporting
on it?
Or why are you doing it in sucha headline-type fashion, right,
when you can't even find theactual things to show up to
support it?
So, anyway, okay, speaking ofheadlines, you've got a good one

(48:38):
here to wrap us up with.

Speaker 3 (48:40):
Oh my gosh, All right .
So the Calgary Herald comes outwith an article.
Invading Canada would sparkfight lasting decades, experts
say has anyone suggestedinvading Canada?
Nobody has.
But they say, just wait tillyou hear the quotes from this
person.
I mean it's ludicrous RightFrom.

Speaker 5 (49:04):
The Calgary Herald and we'll start with an expert
on insurgency of course Says anAmerican military incursion into
Canada would be a disaster forthe United States.

Speaker 1 (49:09):
Okay.

Speaker 5 (49:10):
A military move by President Donald Trump could
eventually destroy America'sworldwide power, says Dr
Whatever, an associate professorat the University of Toronto.
Dr Ahmed has studiedinsurgencies and visited many
conflict zones for more than 20years.
She sees a pattern ofresistance that repeats itself
every time.

Speaker 3 (49:28):
When a country gets invaded, a growing portion of
the people fight back.
No way, really.
Canada would be angry if wejust rolled through and took.
Canada Tanks going into Canada,canada just like hey we're calm,
all right, and then this isgreat, all right, it says.
Would Canadians do that?
Would they fight back?

(50:10):
You bet we would.
Ahmad said the Canadianniceness words.
Now he wants to tear up the1908 treaty that fixed our
border.
He told Prime Minister JustinTrudeau he considers the
agreement invalid.
He's after land, the GreatLakes and across the rivers.
This is just ridiculous.
It's the Putin playbook Claimyou own the territory and take
it.
If Canada doesn't agree toTrump's mythical new boundary,
the next step is sending troopsto secure it.
This is ludicrous and stupidand inflammatory and unnecessary

(50:33):
.

Speaker 5 (50:33):
Did you hear that?
Sorry to jump in on this, butyou heard Trudeau's, his
replacement, talking like wewill not give in to, we will not
cave to America, we will notlet them take over us, we will
not be one of their states.
And I'm thinking Trump is likethe ultimate troll.
Oh, he is trolling them, he hastrolled them to such a degree
that how foolish are you thatthey're actually falling for it?

Speaker 3 (50:54):
I guess I don't know what happens if the fighting
begins, they say.
Well, looking at the sheer sizeof the American military, many
people might believe that Trumpwould enjoy an easy victory,
said Dr Ahmed, who wrote in awidely circulated article.
That analysis is dead wrong,she says, because the result
would not be determined by afight between conventional

(51:15):
armies.
Trump is delusional if hebelieves that the 40 million
Canadians will passively acceptthe conquest without resistance.
That decision would set inmotion an unstoppable cycle of
violence.
Even if we imagine a scenarioin which the Canadian government
unconditionally surrenders, afight would ensue in the streets
.
Well, no kidding, Canadadoesn't want us taking them over

(51:36):
.
We get that.

Speaker 5 (51:37):
This sounds like a Hollywood script for like a new
TV show.
Not, I mean.
Why would anybody have eventaken the time to write this?

Speaker 3 (51:44):
Oh, but hold on, it gets better.

Speaker 5 (51:45):
Oh gosh.

Speaker 3 (51:45):
Okay it gets better, we wouldn't be alone today.
Ahmed adds, commonwealth andEuropean allies would provide
money and supplies.
Oh would they?
Okay, I'm sure they would.
America's many enemies would beencouraged to attack at
vulnerable spots elsewhere.
Other academics point out that,despite our high-minded disdain
for US gun culture, canadaranks amongst the most heavily

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armed nations in the world, withan estimated 12.7 million
weapons in civilian possession.
First Nations alone could givethe Americans a shockingly hard
time.
A chronically violentinsurrection in North America
could be financially andmilitarily pinned down the U?
S for decades.
Again, this is ridiculous.

Speaker 5 (52:28):
Okay, do this person have a dream?
And then thought, like I'mgoing to write an article and
then I'm going to pitch mypublisher on it, like I just
can't understand how this madeit into print?

Speaker 3 (52:37):
Well and so, but by the end they give the game away.
Okay, Okay, the last quotes goahead.
I'll let you just read theselast quotes.
Pull quote seven.

Speaker 5 (52:45):
Okay, no, one in their right mind would choose
this gruesome future over apeaceful and mutually beneficial
alliance with a friendlyneighbor.
We're getting into overheadhypothetical territory here, but
Ahmad's views on insurgency arebacked by history.
The Americans were run out ofVietnam and Afghanistan.
The heroes welcome, they expect, in Iraq turn into an
eight-year military quagmire.

(53:05):
It's hard to imagine anythinglike this coming to our soil.
But now there's a crazedcommander-in-chief down south
who says it's not our soil atall.

Speaker 3 (53:14):
I mean just ridiculous.

Speaker 5 (53:16):
Let's just stoke the fire everybody, let's just
create madness that doesn'tactually exist.

Speaker 3 (53:21):
It's unreal to go through all this, and someone
who claims they're an expertthinks they can lay this out.

Speaker 5 (53:27):
I mean right Hollywood scripts make a show
about Canada and America goingto war?

Speaker 3 (53:31):
I guess I don't know, no one's going into.

Speaker 5 (53:33):
Canada into the media .
I know he's not going intoCanada.

Speaker 3 (53:36):
I don't know, I know, but he's control and.

Speaker 5 (53:38):
I know the fact that they even fall for the troll
about hey, I think they shouldbecome one of our states and you
could become a governor.
And then they just fall for it,like I don't, it's a whatever.
Like don't, don't go after themaster troll which is Trump.

Speaker 3 (53:50):
Sadly, like he.
There's no doubt.

Speaker 5 (53:51):
I'm not sure there's anybody that can troll better
than him.

Speaker 3 (53:53):
So, okay, a couple of quick videos to end on Brooks
Garner, who's someone I knewthrough meteorology circles, a
little bit through Twitter.
Uh, he was working in Orlandoand they had a tornado come
through right as he's on the airand it hit the station.
Oh geez, yeah, check this out.
So we roll the video and he'stalking about this and then he's
watching one of their camerasand what will happen is he'll

(54:15):
basically see this thing come in, bring that camera up full.

Speaker 14 (54:17):
Ok, this is a live view from our TV station of what
may be at the very least, it'storrential rain.
He does a really good jobkeeping his.
We could be looking at atornado on camera.
Look at those trees Comingright at him, blowing around.
Okay, bring the camera up.
Guys, if you can Zoom out, canyou zoom out?
This is a look at the livecamera of a tornado which could
be passing by our station rightnow.

(54:40):
Okay, there's debris.
We've got debris on.
Okay, take shelter.
Everybody in the fox 35building, get to your safe space
under your desk.
If you're not in a designatedarea.
We're catching debris right nowon the roof.
Debris is on the roof right now.
We're hearing.

Speaker 3 (54:57):
You can see there's some debris and so it looks like
an ef1, ef0.
It's not a hugely powerfultornado, but still comes right
through you, hit you there.
Brooks Garner holds it together.

Speaker 8 (55:08):
Yes, he does a pretty good job Staying calm yeah.

Speaker 3 (55:10):
Very, very well done and nobody was hurt.
Okay, but it does show you.
Yeah, that's one of those thingsthe meteorologist, that stuff
starts coming out.
You're like it's like thegreatest thing ever.

(55:32):
Okay, last one Growing up inNew England, one of the kind of
pinnacle places you can go toski is Tuckerman's ravine in
Mount Washington, where it'ssuper steep.
You got to climb it.
There aren't lifts or anythinglike that.
But there's video that came outfrom Tuckerman's of a
snowboarder out running anavalanche on Tuckerman's, which
is crazy.
So we'll show this video to you.
There's Tuckerman's Ravineright there and that's a set
camera that they have.
What you'll see here is you'llsee the snow start to come down

(55:56):
in the form of the avalanche.
See the snowboarder out infront of it.
He just stays out in front.
You see that little speck andyou can see him just outrun the
avalanche that comes runningdown Tuckerman's crazy.
So he just makes it out ofthere and it's one of those
crazy things you get.
Could you see it?

Speaker 5 (56:15):
No, I can't.

Speaker 3 (56:16):
I am blind as a bat.

Speaker 5 (56:17):
So again, we all know this about me, that I am not
able to see things, yes, so no,I do.
I just saw a mountain and somesnow coming out.

Speaker 3 (56:25):
Sorry, I just can't see it, but there was a little
speck on there.
There he is right.
There, see right there.

Speaker 5 (56:29):
Oh, okay, well, ava zooms in, ava zooms in.

Speaker 3 (56:31):
Yeah, so he, but wow.

Speaker 5 (56:33):
Yeah, that's crazy.

Speaker 3 (56:33):
So there's nothing scarier than knowing you're out
running an avalanche.

Speaker 5 (56:37):
Talk, we got to wrap it up.
We got people to talk to placesto go, things to see.

Speaker 12 (56:45):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (56:45):
Things like that.

Speaker 3 (56:46):
Okay, thanks for joining us.

Speaker 5 (56:48):
I got to nap.
Thanks for joining us, you guys.
We will see you back here laterthis week.

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