March 11, 2024 • 28 mins
When was the last time you let joy drive you in your coaching business?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey everyone, welcome to the no Excuses Coaching
podcast.
I'm your host this week.
Alana Banks, ryan and I aredoing solo episodes.
Life just gets in the waysometimes and we couldn't find a
time to get together and record, but the show must go on.
This week we're going to betalking about something that
(00:21):
I've been leaning into a lotlately, which is joy.
You may be wondering how doesthis connect to the tough love
season?
This week, I was at a conferencecalled Becoming Her in Toronto.
It was a conference put on by awoman named Sam Hewitt.
It was all about women inbusiness, being an entrepreneur,
(00:45):
juggling all of the things thatwomen juggle.
There was some amazing speakersthere.
The introduction, or I guessthe woman who kicked off the
conference, was talking allabout leading with joy.
I thought her speech was reallygreat.
(01:06):
Immediately I started makingnotes because I was like this is
going to be a perfect topic forthe podcast, something that I
believe really strongly in.
I think aligns with a lot of thestuff that we talk about on a
regular basis when it comes toleading with joy.
Why is that important?
Why would we want to lead withjoy?
(01:26):
Why do we want to lead with joy?
What is the importance ofprioritizing joy as a leader,
even when we're faced withbusyness, when we're faced with
challenges?
It's not really aboutdisregarding your
responsibilities or avoidingdifficult decisions, but it's
really about finding ways toinfuse joy into your leadership
(01:50):
journey, into yourentrepreneurial endeavors, into
your work in general.
When we think of leadershipfrom a place of joy, leading
with joy, this really urges you,as a busy entrepreneur, to
recognize that joy isn't just anice to have, it's not a reward,
it's not something that you getonce you've finished X, y or Z.
(02:12):
It's actually an essentialingredient for effective
leadership, for effectiveleadership of yourself and other
people.
When we lead with joy, when wehave this mindset, it allows us
to feel inspired, it allows usto be creative.
(02:33):
It just helps you have ahealthier mindset and a
healthier way of being.
The big thing.
For me especially and I thinkwhy I'm leaning into joy right
now is because for a while,there was a big part of me who
was leaning away from joy andwho was kind of stuck in the
(02:55):
weeds of being an entrepreneurand the grind and creating the
content and looking for the nextsale and trying to land clients
.
It's easy for us to default tothat mode of this is hard and
it's not going the way I planned, or this is happening, and now
(03:17):
that's happening.
Then you start comparing andthen there's that whole
comparison game that you getinto on social media.
But if we could step back for aminute and remember why we are
doing what we are doing, whywe've decided to have our own
businesses, why we've decided tobe solopreneurs or go off on
(03:38):
our own, and a lot of the timeit's probably and I mean I can
speak for myself it's probablybecause you were seeking more
joy.
You were seeking more freedom,more peace, more flexibility in
your schedule, and it'ssometimes easy to fall away from
that right, and we've had tonsof conversations on the podcast
about the importance of havingto put the work in and put time
(04:02):
in, and you can't just floataround and expect that you're
going to have this amazingbusiness that's making tons and
tons of money.
But you can also be joyful andget the work done and look at it
from a lens of like this is funfor me, this is something that
I really wanted.
When I get to do these certainthings that make me happy, then
(04:26):
you know it doesn't really feellike work, anyway.
So let's move ahead.
I wanted to go through thepoints about how to lead with
joy, and number one on the listis to be curious, right, to have
a curious mindset, to be askingquestions and be interested and
you know, I think yourintuition plays a lot with this
(04:50):
as well like kind of askingyourself like why is this
happening?
Or, you know, just really beingopen-minded to the way things
are happening for you and inyour business.
And when we have that curiousmindset, when we're always
thinking that this is somethingfor our greatest good or this is
(05:12):
something that's leading us tomore expansion in our business,
then it just makes the wholeexperience a lot more enjoyable,
doesn't it?
It makes it feel fun and freshand exciting.
So stay curious, be curious,ask questions.
If something is coming up foryou, follow those breadcrumbs
(05:35):
and see where it leads to,because you never know right, it
can feel really unexpected.
Number two on the list is dowhat you know.
And this one is, I think, superimportant, because often we get
super fixated on what we thinkwe should be doing and we refuse
to do what we know.
(05:56):
And sometimes we can, you know,we can ignore what we know
because we think that we shouldbe doing this or that because
that makes you seem more what'sthe word I'm looking for?
That makes you seem moreserious or more sophisticated,
or people are going to thinkthat you're more legit because
(06:17):
you're doing it this way.
But what if you just decided tocreate something from what you
already know and then go fromthere?
And I remember early days beingpart of a coach program and the
person that was leading wastalking about how she had
actually worked with a reallyhigh level coach, and the high
(06:42):
level coach had said to her,like she was kind of starting
out her coaching business andshe didn't really know what she
wanted to teach.
And so this person asked herlike what do you?
What are you really really goodat?
And she's like well, you know,I'm really good at Pinterest.
I'm really good at, like,figuring out Pinterest and using
(07:03):
it.
And I think she was using itfor maybe home decorating or
photography or something I can'tremember the specifics, but she
was really really good at usingPinterest.
And so this high-level coachsaid to her well, why don't you
create a master class all aboutPinterest and how you use it and
show people how you can, howyou can use Pinterest, and so
(07:28):
she did that and that gave her aboost of confidence to, you
know, keep going.
And it's not that she wasbecoming a Pinterest coach, but
what it did was it allowed herto show off her expertise as
established credibility, showherself that she could do it and
(07:49):
that she could get peopleinterested in something that she
was really interested in.
And when you're teachingsomething that that feels easy
and fun and it's alreadysomething that you know inside
and out, then people feel thatright people, really People want
to come and be in that energyand learn from you because you
(08:09):
just know it inside and out.
And so this might be a hardpill to swallow for some people
because it might just seem sobasic.
But if you are struggling, youknow, do what you know.
And that's why I'm reallyexcited about our upcoming class
all about everything you needto know about starting your
(08:29):
podcast, because I Really dofeel like I know the ins and
outs of podcasting and I'm, like, so excited to share that
information with everybody andit just seems like a very simple
class to put together.
So if you're interested in that, you can go to the show notes
of this episode and Click on thelink to register.
(08:50):
It's Thursday, march 21st, at10 am Eastern time, and Ryan and
I are going to be sharing allthe tips and tricks and secrets
that we've discovered as we'vebecome podcasters.
So, moving on to number threeand this is a good one too this
is all about asking betterquestions.
When you're, when you'releading with joy, you're not
(09:12):
necessarily asking morequestions, but you're asking
better questions, and so theseare questions that are going to
allow you to Really dive deeperwith people, with yourself, with
discovering what it is thatmakes people tick or what it is
(09:33):
that People are looking for.
Because you kind of want to belike a bit of a detective, right
, you don't really want to asklike all the questions to
understand, necessarily, butwhat you're wanting to do is,
like, really ask questions thatare going to give you insights
(09:54):
and new information into, like,what exactly you want to build
or create or teach.
And when we're asking betterquestions, we're really, you
know, we're actively listeningright to the responses that
we're getting, but then whatthat does is it might open up
(10:14):
more discussion.
It might open up unexpectedconversations that lead to
something more, something moreinteresting, and Highlight maybe
something that's going wrong orsomething that you know isn't
working, or it may highlightsomething that is working really
well that you're you weren'teven expecting.
(10:35):
It also allows you to reflectright when we're asking better
questions.
It gives us an opportunity tosit back and reflect on, you
know, a question that you mighthave asked or where there might
be opportunities for improvement, and this just creates a more
(11:00):
Wholesome way of looking atproblems, looking at situations,
looking at things that you'vecreated, even when it can be.
You know, working with a teamor working with more people Is
really getting feedback rightand and more information to
understand what more could bedone as a leader in the space,
(11:21):
or even as a leader of a team,and even when it comes to just
leading yourself right, sittingand reflecting on how could I
have done that differently?
What could I have taken awayfrom this call or this meeting
or this presentation or thispodcast episode?
Right, so it's just anopportunity to consider where
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there's opportunities, wherethere and where there might be
opportunities for improvement,and number what number are we at
now?
Number four is don't expect toknow everything, and I think
that this one is super important, because sometimes we can feel
like we know everything, right.
But it's important to go intoall situations and even this
(12:10):
this, I think, really speaks toespecially if you're part of any
kind of like coaching groups orlike mentorship or anything
like that, and even when you'regoing on client calls, I think
it's really important to go inthere with an open mind and not
and go in with like a learner'smindset, right Like with the
opportunity that there's alwayssomething more I could be
(12:31):
learning from this client orfrom this group that I'm part of
or this thing that I'm reading,because when we go in with an
open mind and we don't expect toknow everything, then that just
like opens the door for you tobe learning and understanding at
a deeper level.
No one likes to be surroundedby someone who thinks that they
(12:53):
know everything and you know.
I think that the way that thiswoman described that in the
speech she was talking about wasbe a tourist right, and
oftentimes you don't want to bethe tourist right.
You want to blend in, you wantto like look like you're part of
that culture or you live there.
(13:14):
But the good thing abouttourists is they have no shame,
right Like they don't.
They can ask questions, theyask where things are, they want
to know more, and there's noshame in that, and I think that
it's a great way to lead,because it shows that you're
open to growth.
It shows that you're open toother people's perspectives and
(13:37):
opinions and ways of doingthings and you know, this makes
me think of when I was, when Ihad my online fabric store.
I had a lot.
I really wanted to hire someone, but I was just really feeling
stressed out about hiringsomeone because I had my
specific way of doing everythingand cutting my fabric and
(14:00):
filling the packages and all ofthat kind of stuff, and I was
blocking myself from gainingmore time and being able to
spend more time on my businessrather than in it.
And when I finally let that goand hired someone, she actually
had a way better system ofcutting the fabric and packing
(14:21):
the packages and doingeverything than I did, and it
was in my blind spot, and sothis is why it's important to be
the tourist and ask questionsand ask for help, and not expect
that you are the only one thatknows everything.
So number five on the list isspeed up and adapt faster.
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So the question here is are youthe type of person who adapts
really quickly?
Or are you the type of personwho likes to just sit in the
mess?
Because really, the person whoadapts the fastest is the person
who's going to win, becausethings are always changing,
especially in this field.
As a coach, as someone who'sworking in the personal
(15:09):
development world.
Things are changing, people arechanging.
The way people consume,information changes all the time
and I don't know if you'venoticed this.
But also the collective iswaking up.
They're becoming more aware ofthis work and personal
development and we really doneed to change and adapt to
(15:33):
sharing at a deeper level withsome people, because a lot of
people have woken up and theydon't necessarily need to know
the basics anymore.
But how can you take themfurther?
How can you develop yourprograms and your coaching to
meet all the needs of all thepeople, not just people who are
(15:55):
still in the beginning phases?
But how can you adapt?
How can you grow with yourclients or your community as
they get smarter and smarter andmore aware and open to all this
information?
Those are the people that aregoing to win in the end, because
they're adapting to thechanging needs of the people
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that are in their world.
Number six is be the exception,and I think we've talked about
this a few episodes ago.
This is really about justignoring the collective
narrative.
If you see everybody doing aspecific trend, do something.
That's the complete opposite,and I think this really speaks
(16:37):
out to your content on socialmedia, or even what you're
offering as a coach Put theblinders on.
I think it's really importantsometimes to just put the
blinders on and do your ownthing and tap into your
intuition.
Tap into what you know and whatyou want to be doing and how
you like to do it, because whenyou're working in that frequency
(17:00):
, when you're working from thatlevel of just like all, in
feeling joy, feeling like youknow exactly what you're doing
and you're not blending in withthe collective, then you're
going to stand out, aren't you?
So be the exception and trustthat your joy and your
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excitement about what you'redoing is the thing that's going
to draw a lot of people in.
I think that one speaks foritself, but be the exception,
and I think with this one too,there comes a lot of fear of
judgment, or will I get it wrong, or people going to think I'm
weird, and that's something thatyou really need to release,
(17:43):
because chances are, as anentrepreneur period.
You are part of the exceptionbecause you're not following the
crowd, you're not following thetraditional way of having a
nine to five job and working forsomeone else.
You've decided to go out onyour own.
So continue to expand into thatversion of you who wants to go
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out on their own and be theexception.
You decided to become anentrepreneur for a reason
because you're creative, becauseyou're inspired, because you
have your own ideas, because youhave your own way of doing
something.
So let that part of you shineand release the idea that you
have to blend in with thecollective of all the other
entrepreneurs out there becauseit's boring and we've talked so
(18:30):
much about this.
So it's really about releasingthat fear.
And if people think you'reweird, that's good, because then
that creates something for themto talk about.
And the more you can bolster upyour own self-worth and your
own value and recognize thatyou're enough just the way you
(18:52):
are and let go of that wholeidea that there's something
wrong with you and that actuallywhat makes you special is that
you are part of the exception.
That goes a long way, and themore you can step into that and
the more you can lean into thatand bring your joy online, the
more successful you're going tobe.
(19:13):
The next one, number seven, isthis seven.
I can't keep up, but anyway.
Number next is what is the last?
One is transform.
Often, and this one is such agood one because I think that
there is this narrative therethat you find your niche, you do
your thing and then that's whatyou continue doing.
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But that's not true, becausewe're ever evolving, we're
learning, we're always learningnew things and changing and
wanting to try new things.
So recognize that you're goingto transform and you're going to
change and your beliefs aregoing to shift and your way of
doing something is going tochange.
(19:56):
And actually we were talkingabout this last week, because I
remember I was talking about apodcast that I'd listened to,
where she had completely changedher whole way of basically
doing her work, her wholeprocess.
So this goes back into the wholebeing curious.
The more curious you are, themore you're going to learn, the
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more you're going to grow andthen, obviously, the more you're
going to transform.
So don't be afraid of thattransformation, don't be afraid
to try new things, step intowhatever is bringing you joy in
that moment and allow that partof you to shine, and the more
you do that, the more is goingto give permission to other
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people to do that and the peoplethat follow you and the people
that you work with.
That's going to give thempermission to transform and
recognize that.
This is all part of the journey, this is all part of the
process of being here and doingwhat we love.
So, just to recap, if you'regoing to lead with joy, you want
to be curious, you want to dowhat you know, you want to ask
(21:00):
better questions, you want to bea tourist.
Don't expect to know everything.
You want to speed up so thatyou can adapt, you want to be
the exception and finallytransform often.
So those are the seven ways youcan lead with joy lead others,
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lead yourself.
And so, to wrap it all up,really, the tough love or
reminder here is that leadingwith joy requires a sense of
self-awareness and intentionalchoices, and it might require
letting go of thoseperfectionistic tendencies.
It might require saying no tocertain things, it might require
(21:47):
creating boundaries to protectyour own joy.
And so you can ask yourself andthis is something that I've
been asking myself a lot latelyis will this decision bring me
joy?
Will doing this thing bring mejoy?
Will hanging it with thisperson bring me joy?
And if the answer is no, thenit's like I'm not available for
(22:08):
it.
And it's really a reminder that, as a leader a leader of
yourself, a leader of otherpeople it's a reminder to take
care of yourself so that you canavoid that burnout that I think
a lot of entrepreneurs can feelat some point.
And when you can protectyourself in this way, when
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you're leading with joy, whenyou're asking yourself what do I
need in this moment that'sgoing to bring me joy, then you
lead with authenticity and thenyou allow yourself to inspire
others.
And, ultimately, that tough lovemessage that we're getting
across here by leading with joyis that it's simply not enough
(22:56):
to just succeed or survive inyour business.
You really need to find ways tocultivate joy and infuse that
into your leadership practices,whether that's leading yourself
or leading other people orleading your business.
How can you connect it back tojoy?
(23:16):
How can you connect it back tosomething that is helping you
thrive rather than just merelysurvive or succeed in the
business?
Because, at the end of the day,what's the point and there was
another really awesomediscussion at this conference
with Joanna Griffiths from Nixshe's the founder of Nix and
(23:42):
someone asked her how shebalances and I love this because
we've talked about this on thepodcast a lot as well around
work-life balance, or how do youbalance your time and she was
talking about how a mentor ofhers didn't call it work-life
(24:03):
balance, but they called itwork-like rhythm.
So how can you be in the rhythmof joy, how can you be in this
rhythm of thriving rather thanmerely surviving?
And part of that rhythm and theway you can tap into that is by
recognizing that you areworking for a much bigger
(24:25):
purpose than just surviving orjust succeeding in the business.
You want to attach whatever itis you're doing with a greater
purpose, something that's wayhigher than just yourself and
your business.
And whatever it is you're doing, what are you tapping into?
And so I thought that was areally great reminder and a
(24:47):
really great way to look at yourbusiness and detach from it a
little bit and recognize thatyou can have joy and you can tap
into that whenever you want to,and that there's always more
fuel in the tank when you'reworking for something that is
(25:08):
much higher or bigger thanyourself.
And in Joanna's case, she'sworking to impact women on a
global level by creating a wholenew category in underwear for
women leak-proof underwear.
(25:28):
So that's what makes the harddays easier when you know that
you're working for more thanjust yourself.
This is to ultimately impactwomen worldwide, and so you can
always find joy.
You can always find more inthat than you can when you're
just kind of doing it foryourself.
So that's it from me.
(25:51):
That's all I wanted to sayabout this whole topic of
leading with joy.
I hope you enjoyed it.
If you have any questions, I'dlove to hear from you.
You can always message us atit's no Excuses podcast on
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Thanks, everyone.
Hey everyone, welcome to the no Excuses Coaching
podcast.
I'm your host this week.
Alana Banks, ryan and I aredoing solo episodes.
Life just gets in the waysometimes and we couldn't find a
time to get together and record, but the show must go on.
This week we're going to betalking about something that
(00:21):
I've been leaning into a lotlately, which is joy.
You may be wondering how doesthis connect to the tough love
season?
This week, I was at a conferencecalled Becoming Her in Toronto.
It was a conference put on by awoman named Sam Hewitt.
It was all about women inbusiness, being an entrepreneur,
(00:45):
juggling all of the things thatwomen juggle.
There was some amazing speakersthere.
The introduction, or I guessthe woman who kicked off the
conference, was talking allabout leading with joy.
I thought her speech was reallygreat.
(01:06):
Immediately I started makingnotes because I was like this is
going to be a perfect topic forthe podcast, something that I
believe really strongly in.
I think aligns with a lot of thestuff that we talk about on a
regular basis when it comes toleading with joy.
Why is that important?
Why would we want to lead withjoy?
(01:26):
Why do we want to lead with joy?
What is the importance ofprioritizing joy as a leader,
even when we're faced withbusyness, when we're faced with
challenges?
It's not really aboutdisregarding your
responsibilities or avoidingdifficult decisions, but it's
really about finding ways toinfuse joy into your leadership
(01:50):
journey, into yourentrepreneurial endeavors, into
your work in general.
When we think of leadershipfrom a place of joy, leading
with joy, this really urges you,as a busy entrepreneur, to
recognize that joy isn't just anice to have, it's not a reward,
it's not something that you getonce you've finished X, y or Z.
(02:12):
It's actually an essentialingredient for effective
leadership, for effectiveleadership of yourself and other
people.
When we lead with joy, when wehave this mindset, it allows us
to feel inspired, it allows usto be creative.
(02:33):
It just helps you have ahealthier mindset and a
healthier way of being.
The big thing.
For me especially and I thinkwhy I'm leaning into joy right
now is because for a while,there was a big part of me who
was leaning away from joy andwho was kind of stuck in the
(02:55):
weeds of being an entrepreneurand the grind and creating the
content and looking for the nextsale and trying to land clients
.
It's easy for us to default tothat mode of this is hard and
it's not going the way I planned, or this is happening, and now
(03:17):
that's happening.
Then you start comparing andthen there's that whole
comparison game that you getinto on social media.
But if we could step back for aminute and remember why we are
doing what we are doing, whywe've decided to have our own
businesses, why we've decided tobe solopreneurs or go off on
(03:38):
our own, and a lot of the timeit's probably and I mean I can
speak for myself it's probablybecause you were seeking more
joy.
You were seeking more freedom,more peace, more flexibility in
your schedule, and it'ssometimes easy to fall away from
that right, and we've had tonsof conversations on the podcast
about the importance of havingto put the work in and put time
(04:02):
in, and you can't just floataround and expect that you're
going to have this amazingbusiness that's making tons and
tons of money.
But you can also be joyful andget the work done and look at it
from a lens of like this is funfor me, this is something that
I really wanted.
When I get to do these certainthings that make me happy, then
(04:26):
you know it doesn't really feellike work, anyway.
So let's move ahead.
I wanted to go through thepoints about how to lead with
joy, and number one on the listis to be curious, right, to have
a curious mindset, to be askingquestions and be interested and
you know, I think yourintuition plays a lot with this
(04:50):
as well like kind of askingyourself like why is this
happening?
Or, you know, just really beingopen-minded to the way things
are happening for you and inyour business.
And when we have that curiousmindset, when we're always
thinking that this is somethingfor our greatest good or this is
(05:12):
something that's leading us tomore expansion in our business,
then it just makes the wholeexperience a lot more enjoyable,
doesn't it?
It makes it feel fun and freshand exciting.
So stay curious, be curious,ask questions.
If something is coming up foryou, follow those breadcrumbs
(05:35):
and see where it leads to,because you never know right, it
can feel really unexpected.
Number two on the list is dowhat you know.
And this one is, I think, superimportant, because often we get
super fixated on what we thinkwe should be doing and we refuse
to do what we know.
(05:56):
And sometimes we can, you know,we can ignore what we know
because we think that we shouldbe doing this or that because
that makes you seem more what'sthe word I'm looking for?
That makes you seem moreserious or more sophisticated,
or people are going to thinkthat you're more legit because
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you're doing it this way.
But what if you just decided tocreate something from what you
already know and then go fromthere?
And I remember early days beingpart of a coach program and the
person that was leading wastalking about how she had
actually worked with a reallyhigh level coach, and the high
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level coach had said to her,like she was kind of starting
out her coaching business andshe didn't really know what she
wanted to teach.
And so this person asked herlike what do you?
What are you really really goodat?
And she's like well, you know,I'm really good at Pinterest.
I'm really good at, like,figuring out Pinterest and using
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it.
And I think she was using itfor maybe home decorating or
photography or something I can'tremember the specifics, but she
was really really good at usingPinterest.
And so this high-level coachsaid to her well, why don't you
create a master class all aboutPinterest and how you use it and
show people how you can, howyou can use Pinterest, and so
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she did that and that gave her aboost of confidence to, you
know, keep going.
And it's not that she wasbecoming a Pinterest coach, but
what it did was it allowed herto show off her expertise as
established credibility, showherself that she could do it and
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that she could get peopleinterested in something that she
was really interested in.
And when you're teachingsomething that that feels easy
and fun and it's alreadysomething that you know inside
and out, then people feel thatright people, really People want
to come and be in that energyand learn from you because you
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just know it inside and out.
And so this might be a hardpill to swallow for some people
because it might just seem sobasic.
But if you are struggling, youknow, do what you know.
And that's why I'm reallyexcited about our upcoming class
all about everything you needto know about starting your
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outs of podcasting and I'm, like, so excited to share that
information with everybody andit just seems like a very simple
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So if you're interested in that, you can go to the show notes
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It's Thursday, march 21st, at10 am Eastern time, and Ryan and
I are going to be sharing allthe tips and tricks and secrets
that we've discovered as we'vebecome podcasters.
So, moving on to number threeand this is a good one too this
is all about asking betterquestions.
When you're, when you'releading with joy, you're not
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necessarily asking morequestions, but you're asking
better questions, and so theseare questions that are going to
allow you to Really dive deeperwith people, with yourself, with
discovering what it is thatmakes people tick or what it is
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that People are looking for.
Because you kind of want to belike a bit of a detective, right
, you don't really want to asklike all the questions to
understand, necessarily, butwhat you're wanting to do is,
like, really ask questions thatare going to give you insights
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and new information into, like,what exactly you want to build
or create or teach.
And when we're asking betterquestions, we're really, you
know, we're actively listeningright to the responses that
we're getting, but then whatthat does is it might open up
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more discussion.
It might open up unexpectedconversations that lead to
something more, something moreinteresting, and Highlight maybe
something that's going wrong orsomething that you know isn't
working, or it may highlightsomething that is working really
well that you're you weren'teven expecting.
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It also allows you to reflectright when we're asking better
questions.
It gives us an opportunity tosit back and reflect on, you
know, a question that you mighthave asked or where there might
be opportunities for improvement, and this just creates a more
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Wholesome way of looking atproblems, looking at situations,
looking at things that you'vecreated, even when it can be.
You know, working with a teamor working with more people Is
really getting feedback rightand and more information to
understand what more could bedone as a leader in the space,
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or even as a leader of a team,and even when it comes to just
leading yourself right, sittingand reflecting on how could I
have done that differently?
What could I have taken awayfrom this call or this meeting
or this presentation or thispodcast episode?
Right, so it's just anopportunity to consider where
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there's opportunities, wherethere and where there might be
opportunities for improvement,and number what number are we at
now?
Number four is don't expect toknow everything, and I think
that this one is super important, because sometimes we can feel
like we know everything, right.
But it's important to go intoall situations and even this
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this, I think, really speaks toespecially if you're part of any
kind of like coaching groups orlike mentorship or anything
like that, and even when you'regoing on client calls, I think
it's really important to go inthere with an open mind and not
and go in with like a learner'smindset, right Like with the
opportunity that there's alwayssomething more I could be
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learning from this client orfrom this group that I'm part of
or this thing that I'm reading,because when we go in with an
open mind and we don't expect toknow everything, then that just
like opens the door for you tobe learning and understanding at
a deeper level.
No one likes to be surroundedby someone who thinks that they
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know everything and you know.
I think that the way that thiswoman described that in the
speech she was talking about wasbe a tourist right, and
oftentimes you don't want to bethe tourist right.
You want to blend in, you wantto like look like you're part of
that culture or you live there.
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But the good thing abouttourists is they have no shame,
right Like they don't.
They can ask questions, theyask where things are, they want
to know more, and there's noshame in that, and I think that
it's a great way to lead,because it shows that you're
open to growth.
It shows that you're open toother people's perspectives and
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opinions and ways of doingthings and you know, this makes
me think of when I was, when Ihad my online fabric store.
I had a lot.
I really wanted to hire someone, but I was just really feeling
stressed out about hiringsomeone because I had my
specific way of doing everythingand cutting my fabric and
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filling the packages and all ofthat kind of stuff, and I was
blocking myself from gainingmore time and being able to
spend more time on my businessrather than in it.
And when I finally let that goand hired someone, she actually
had a way better system ofcutting the fabric and packing
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the packages and doingeverything than I did, and it
was in my blind spot, and sothis is why it's important to be
the tourist and ask questionsand ask for help, and not expect
that you are the only one thatknows everything.
So number five on the list isspeed up and adapt faster.
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So the question here is are youthe type of person who adapts
really quickly?
Or are you the type of personwho likes to just sit in the
mess?
Because really, the person whoadapts the fastest is the person
who's going to win, becausethings are always changing,
especially in this field.
As a coach, as someone who'sworking in the personal
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development world.
Things are changing, people arechanging.
The way people consume,information changes all the time
and I don't know if you'venoticed this.
But also the collective iswaking up.
They're becoming more aware ofthis work and personal
development and we really doneed to change and adapt to
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sharing at a deeper level withsome people, because a lot of
people have woken up and theydon't necessarily need to know
the basics anymore.
But how can you take themfurther?
How can you develop yourprograms and your coaching to
meet all the needs of all thepeople, not just people who are
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still in the beginning phases?
But how can you adapt?
How can you grow with yourclients or your community as
they get smarter and smarter andmore aware and open to all this
information?
Those are the people that aregoing to win in the end, because
they're adapting to thechanging needs of the people
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that are in their world.
Number six is be the exception,and I think we've talked about
this a few episodes ago.
This is really about justignoring the collective
narrative.
If you see everybody doing aspecific trend, do something.
That's the complete opposite,and I think this really speaks
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out to your content on socialmedia, or even what you're
offering as a coach Put theblinders on.
I think it's really importantsometimes to just put the
blinders on and do your ownthing and tap into your
intuition.
Tap into what you know and whatyou want to be doing and how
you like to do it, because whenyou're working in that frequency
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, when you're working from thatlevel of just like all, in
feeling joy, feeling like youknow exactly what you're doing
and you're not blending in withthe collective, then you're
going to stand out, aren't you?
So be the exception and trustthat your joy and your
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excitement about what you'redoing is the thing that's going
to draw a lot of people in.
I think that one speaks foritself, but be the exception,
and I think with this one too,there comes a lot of fear of
judgment, or will I get it wrong, or people going to think I'm
weird, and that's something thatyou really need to release,
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because chances are, as anentrepreneur period.
You are part of the exceptionbecause you're not following the
crowd, you're not following thetraditional way of having a
nine to five job and working forsomeone else.
You've decided to go out onyour own.
So continue to expand into thatversion of you who wants to go
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out on their own and be theexception.
You decided to become anentrepreneur for a reason
because you're creative, becauseyou're inspired, because you
have your own ideas, because youhave your own way of doing
something.
So let that part of you shineand release the idea that you
have to blend in with thecollective of all the other
entrepreneurs out there becauseit's boring and we've talked so
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much about this.
So it's really about releasingthat fear.
And if people think you'reweird, that's good, because then
that creates something for themto talk about.
And the more you can bolster upyour own self-worth and your
own value and recognize thatyou're enough just the way you
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are and let go of that wholeidea that there's something
wrong with you and that actuallywhat makes you special is that
you are part of the exception.
That goes a long way, and themore you can step into that and
the more you can lean into thatand bring your joy online, the
more successful you're going tobe.
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The next one, number seven, isthis seven.
I can't keep up, but anyway.
Number next is what is the last?
One is transform.
Often, and this one is such agood one because I think that
there is this narrative therethat you find your niche, you do
your thing and then that's whatyou continue doing.
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But that's not true, becausewe're ever evolving, we're
learning, we're always learningnew things and changing and
wanting to try new things.
So recognize that you're goingto transform and you're going to
change and your beliefs aregoing to shift and your way of
doing something is going tochange.
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And actually we were talkingabout this last week, because I
remember I was talking about apodcast that I'd listened to,
where she had completely changedher whole way of basically
doing her work, her wholeprocess.
So this goes back into the wholebeing curious.
The more curious you are, themore you're going to learn, the
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more you're going to grow andthen, obviously, the more you're
going to transform.
So don't be afraid of thattransformation, don't be afraid
to try new things, step intowhatever is bringing you joy in
that moment and allow that partof you to shine, and the more
you do that, the more is goingto give permission to other
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people to do that and the peoplethat follow you and the people
that you work with.
That's going to give thempermission to transform and
recognize that.
This is all part of the journey, this is all part of the
process of being here and doingwhat we love.
So, just to recap, if you'regoing to lead with joy, you want
to be curious, you want to dowhat you know, you want to ask
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better questions, you want to bea tourist.
Don't expect to know everything.
You want to speed up so thatyou can adapt, you want to be
the exception and finallytransform often.
So those are the seven ways youcan lead with joy lead others,
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lead yourself.
And so, to wrap it all up,really, the tough love or
reminder here is that leadingwith joy requires a sense of
self-awareness and intentionalchoices, and it might require
letting go of thoseperfectionistic tendencies.
It might require saying no tocertain things, it might require
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creating boundaries to protectyour own joy.
And so you can ask yourself andthis is something that I've
been asking myself a lot latelyis will this decision bring me
joy?
Will doing this thing bring mejoy?
Will hanging it with thisperson bring me joy?
And if the answer is no, thenit's like I'm not available for
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it.
And it's really a reminder that, as a leader a leader of
yourself, a leader of otherpeople it's a reminder to take
care of yourself so that you canavoid that burnout that I think
a lot of entrepreneurs can feelat some point.
And when you can protectyourself in this way, when
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you're leading with joy, whenyou're asking yourself what do I
need in this moment that'sgoing to bring me joy, then you
lead with authenticity and thenyou allow yourself to inspire
others.
And, ultimately, that tough lovemessage that we're getting
across here by leading with joyis that it's simply not enough
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to just succeed or survive inyour business.
You really need to find ways tocultivate joy and infuse that
into your leadership practices,whether that's leading yourself
or leading other people orleading your business.
How can you connect it back tojoy?
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How can you connect it back tosomething that is helping you
thrive rather than just merelysurvive or succeed in the
business?
Because, at the end of the day,what's the point and there was
another really awesomediscussion at this conference
with Joanna Griffiths from Nixshe's the founder of Nix and
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someone asked her how shebalances and I love this because
we've talked about this on thepodcast a lot as well around
work-life balance, or how do youbalance your time and she was
talking about how a mentor ofhers didn't call it work-life
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balance, but they called itwork-like rhythm.
So how can you be in the rhythmof joy, how can you be in this
rhythm of thriving rather thanmerely surviving?
And part of that rhythm and theway you can tap into that is by
recognizing that you areworking for a much bigger
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purpose than just surviving orjust succeeding in the business.
You want to attach whatever itis you're doing with a greater
purpose, something that's wayhigher than just yourself and
your business.
And whatever it is you're doing, what are you tapping into?
And so I thought that was areally great reminder and a
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really great way to look at yourbusiness and detach from it a
little bit and recognize thatyou can have joy and you can tap
into that whenever you want to,and that there's always more
fuel in the tank when you'reworking for something that is
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much higher or bigger thanyourself.
And in Joanna's case, she'sworking to impact women on a
global level by creating a wholenew category in underwear for
women leak-proof underwear.
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So that's what makes the harddays easier when you know that
you're working for more thanjust yourself.
This is to ultimately impactwomen worldwide, and so you can
always find joy.
You can always find more inthat than you can when you're
just kind of doing it foryourself.
So that's it from me.
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That's all I wanted to sayabout this whole topic of
leading with joy.
I hope you enjoyed it.
If you have any questions, I'dlove to hear from you.
You can always message us atit's no Excuses podcast on
Instagram.
You can follow me on Instagram.
At Atlanta Banks Coaching.
You can follow RyanRyanMathisMLP.
And just a final reminder thatwe're running the just hit
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record everything you need toknow about podcasting class
March 21st.
Thursday, march 21st, at 10 amEastern time.
We're going to be sharingeverything.
We've learned everything.
We know all the resourcespretty much anything you need to
know to get that podcast thatyou've been dreaming about off
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the ground.
And I had a conversationrecently with someone who was
saying to me oh, I don't havetime to start a podcast and
really it's not all aboutwhether or not you have time.
It's really about is it apriority and why do you want to
have a podcast?
You want to have a podcastbecause it's authority building.
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It allows you to get yourmessage out there.
It legitimizes you as a coach,because if you have a podcast,
there's this sort of persee orthis perception that that's cool
or that you're doing somethingthat a lot of people aren't
doing.
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So having a podcast, while itmight seem like it takes up a
lot of time, it actually doesn't.
Ryan and I spend maybe two,three hours a week putting this
podcast together and thebenefits of that far away the
time that we spend actuallysitting down and recording and
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editing.
So I highly recommend takingthe class.
I'd love to see you there.
We will answer all of yourquestions and give you all the
resources you need to get going.
So that's it for us this week.
I hope you enjoyed this and wewill talk to you next time.
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Thanks, everyone.
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