October 14, 2025 • 40 mins
Ever hear a single sentence change someone’s life? That’s how Jay Flake’s story starts—cracking jokes in a corporate training room when an older coworker told him he’d missed his calling. One open mic later, the Nashville comic found his lane: high-energy, true-story material that feels lived-in, then sharpened it into a clean-comedy brand that books hard and lasts longer.
We dig into the gritty rise that rarely makes the highlight reel: Zoom corporate sets, underground rooms, patio shows, and a pandemic album that hit festivals even as the video stayed shelved to protect the brand. Jay breaks down why some jokes belong to their moment, how cleaner material unlocked better gigs, and how to translate everyday chaos into bits that crush without cheap shots. The COVID talk is raw and hilarious—taste disappearing mid-breakfast, a hotel deodorant “taste test,” and the lonely, surreal weeks that turned survival into stories.
The craft gets equal airtime. Jay salutes Bernie Mac’s fearlessness, Dave Chappelle’s ease with ordinary ideas, and Ali Sadiq’s storytelling and business blueprint: drop on Patreon, expand on YouTube, then license to streamers for a third check. We also walk through Andrew Schultz’s clip-first playbook and the discipline behind album timing—finding minutes, trimming fat, and protecting your voice. Plus, the green room rules nobody teaches: listen more than you talk, guard private shop talk, and treat owners and managers like the partners they are.
Want the laughs and the ladder? This one gives both—part origin story, part strategy guide, and packed with practical moves any comic or creator can use right now. Tap play, then check Jay's 13-minute NateLand showcase and see the craft in action. If this conversation hits, subscribe, share it with a comedy friend, and drop a review with your favorite takeaway.
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SPEAKER_02 (00:00):
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to
another episode of the No I Deepwith your host Ron Davis.
I have here a comedian fromNashville, Tennessee.
He's been at Zany's performingtheir wise guy, Chocolate
Sunday's Comedy Bar.
He has a comedy album that'savailable right now on Title,
Spotify, and Apple.
He's the album has beennominated for the best comedy
album at the Jackson FilmFestival, and it was selected
(00:21):
for the second line filmfestival entitled Pandemic
Jokes, the one and only JayFlake.
How you doing today, boss?
I'm doing well, man.
SPEAKER_01 (00:28):
I appreciate the invite on the podcast, bro.
SPEAKER_02 (00:30):
Appreciate the time.
I tried to do my little ShannonSharp thing with my cue card,
but it ain't work out that way.
SPEAKER_01 (00:35):
Hey, that was good, man.
SPEAKER_02 (00:36):
That was good, bro.
You know how you do.
That man got a talk show, can'teven talk.
SPEAKER_00 (00:42):
You're right.
You see them everywhere.
He'd been nominated for 14grandmys.
He got seven grandchildren andfour grandbabies.
SPEAKER_02 (00:50):
My grandmother, he always says something like, My
grandmother told me if you don'tgo up to the well to get no
water, you're gonna bedehydrated.
Well, duh.
SPEAKER_00 (01:00):
You're right.
My grandmother said if you eatcatfish at 2 o'clock in the
morning with hot sauce on,you're gonna have heartburn.
I'm telling you, I'm tellingwhat you're saying now.
I'm telling what you say now.
SPEAKER_01 (01:14):
How you feeling today, brother?
I'm good, man.
SPEAKER_02 (01:17):
I can't complain, man.
I'm a uh I'm a fan.
I am a fan.
I appreciate that, man.
About right before I hit you up,you came up on my uh uh Explore
page.
And then I just you know,YouTube is the power of the
world, bro.
I was locked in.
And if you guys haven't seen theseason three showcase on Nate,
(01:38):
was it NATO Land'sEntertainment?
SPEAKER_01 (01:39):
Nate Nate Land Entertainment, yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (01:41):
Nate Land En public school, brother.
SPEAKER_03 (01:48):
Public school.
SPEAKER_02 (01:49):
It is it's amazing.
You will be hooked from fromit's like I think it's about 10,
11 minutes, and I probablywatched it probably watch it a
few times, and uh the joke, thethe jokes about TSA, parents
going to TSA with no socks on.
SPEAKER_00 (02:07):
That's a true story.
That is a true story.
SPEAKER_01 (02:11):
But I talk about man, all that all that true
stories, man.
Y'all, y'all say some peoplesaying jokes, man, them true
stories.
SPEAKER_02 (02:20):
You say you never seen a ghost story, a ghost
after 1910.
SPEAKER_01 (02:24):
That's it.
Hey, bro, you have not heard ofno ghosts.
Every ghost story ain't nobodyout there that died in like 2010
coming back to be ghost, bro.
Like, no, it's like, hold on,what's the deal?
So I had to, we have had, wewould have had to die at a
certain point in time to comeback and be a ghost.
(02:45):
I mean, I ain't heard no slaveghost stories either, so I don't
know if they're I don't know, Idon't know if black people are
allowed to come back and beghosts.
SPEAKER_02 (02:51):
Nah, you know, the only ghost we like is the holy
ghost.
We don't exactly, exactly.
Don't mess with that, man.
I'm sorry to give it away, butI've been watching.
Yeah, I wear husky pants.
I thought these was top chefLevi as from the back.
I'm like, dang.
SPEAKER_01 (03:08):
Somebody told me they still sell husky pants in
certain stores.
I didn't know that.
Yeah, they do.
Yeah, I thought it was overwith.
I thought that this point intime where they, you know,
everybody involved in folks'feelings and mental health and
stuff.
I just figured they just, hey,you in the me in section now.
You know what I'm saying?
Or something like that.
I just thought they just do itlike that.
Nah.
It was like, nah, they stillsell huskies.
(03:29):
And I and I learned that thewomen husky was named something
else.
I can't remember, but they wastagging me in it.
Like it's that nah, the womenhuskies was named, they had a
different name for the women.
SPEAKER_02 (03:38):
They try and mask it now as big and tall, but you
know.
SPEAKER_01 (03:43):
Hey now, big and tall story.
Big and tall started like a2-3X.
They started a 2-3X.
Like, where is the skinny tall?
I ain't skinny and tall, butit's some skinny dude out there
that tall, like, bruh, I ain'tgot nothing in this soul.
SPEAKER_02 (03:58):
Right.
Big and tall be having queensize shirts and king-sized
jackets over there.
SPEAKER_01 (04:04):
Let me tell you something.
My mama, uh, she doesembroidery.
And uh she used to do a lot ofmega sci-fi stuff.
You know, mega sci-fi got somebig boys.
Bro, she would literally do adesign on like a one X shirt
that'll cover the whole back ofthe shirt.
Then she's the next dude be likea five X.
He'd be like, Man, like thatsmall polo logo on the back of
that shirt.
(04:25):
It'd be the same, same sizelogo.
And I'd be like, man, that jokerlook like it's little bitty on
the back of that shirt again.
So she charge extra for that.
Folks get mad.
They'd be like, You charging meextra for something over 3X?
Yes, because the shirt I gottabuy is like$10 extra.
Like, what we talking about?
SPEAKER_02 (04:42):
Yeah, I'm five foot four.
My stuff is I'm I'm on theborderline of men's and boys'
husky.
I'm like, right in between.
SPEAKER_01 (04:52):
You know what I'm saying?
But you but you getting all theJordans before they sell out,
though.
You get what size, what size youwear?
SPEAKER_02 (04:58):
Eight and a half.
SPEAKER_01 (04:59):
Eight and a half, yeah, yeah.
Yours be in the store.
Yeah, you get you can wait twodays at the you can wait two
weeks at the Jordans come out.
Your eight, eight and a halfgonna be in there.
So it's in there.
See, I'm five nine, I weareleven.
If I don't catch it the day itdropped, they gone.
It ain't gone.
And for me, I just go to theain't no big and short stuff.
(05:19):
You know what I'm saying?
I'm chunky, but I ain't tall, soI just gotta find my size
wherever.
SPEAKER_02 (05:26):
Man.
Man, Jay.
How did you how okay?
When I went on your website andyour YouTube, I made notes,
right?
You've been doing it for aminute, energetic as hell, true
stories raw, right?
Like you said earlier.
And it's no uh, well, as theyoung folks say, no cap, but
it's no lies that I I it's verybelievable because I've been in
(05:46):
New Orleans.
I know it smelled like ass inthere.
So nice food.
Good too.
It smells like instinct.
How did how did you get yourstart your start into comedy?
And what was your reason behindgetting into comedy?
SPEAKER_01 (06:04):
Man, I always enjoyed comedy.
Um watched Def Comedy Jam as akid, and I used to love watching
Comic View.
People remember comedy used tocome on BT.
I used to watch Comic View allthe time, and none of that led
to me to be a comedian.
But I used to do stuff aroundthe house with my parents, like
I'd cut, I mock family members,we be out, I might mock
(06:26):
somebody, we out, and none ofthat still led to me doing
stand-up.
What led to me doing stand-up,because it's weird, because it's
like all the signs was there.
And I just, I don't know.
The Lord was just like, not yet,or even I it just never crossed
my mind.
But I was at, I work incorporate, so I was, I was,
somebody was training me at anew job.
It was an older black lady andI'm missing Rieto.
(06:48):
And I'm in there cutting up,trying to, because to me,
training be boring.
If anybody knows when you starta new job, go to it'd be you be
in there about to fall asleep.
So in between time, I always becutting up a little bit, bust a
joke here and there just to keepmyself awake.
And uh she told me, she waslike, You, you done missed your
calling.
I said, What you talking about?
She like, you ought to be, youshouldn't be a stand-up
(07:08):
comedian.
I was like, I ain't missed thatcalling, but that's the first
time anybody ever said that tome.
And I was like, nah, I ain'tmissed that calling.
So what I did was I hit, I askedaround to some people, like, how
do I get into comedy?
I didn't know a dude I went tohigh school with was running an
open mic.
So somebody's like, you ought toreach out to Brad, he does an
open mic.
So I reached out to him and Iwas like, what's up, bro?
(07:31):
Like, I heard you do comedy now.
Cause he was doing music, he wasrapping before, and then he
moved to comedy.
And I was like, I heard you wasdoing comedy.
He was like, Yeah.
And I was like, somebody told meto hit you up about doing open
mic.
He was like, Bet, you got fiveminutes.
I was like, I guess I hope so.
And he was like, all right,holler at me, I think it was
that same week, night, the nextweek.
He said, Holler, it was the thatnight he had it.
And he was like, Come the nextweek, I got you.
(07:54):
So I just wrote down like threejokes, man.
And I was like, all right, Iwent and I told my wife, I said,
if I got half the peoplelaughing in here, I keep doing
it.
If I don't have half the peoplelaughing, all right, I tried it,
I'm done.
I went in there with threejokes, total three jokes.
I had about 75% of the crowdlaughing, and it's been on ever
(08:15):
since.
That's it.
SPEAKER_02 (08:16):
I like how you're on ever since.
Def Comedy Jam and Comic Viewwasn't the reason because boy, I
get people up here that laughall the time.
Yeah, man, I was watching DeafComedy Jam.
I'm like, bro, you 22.
SPEAKER_01 (08:28):
Yeah, it's because it's crazy.
I tell people, they really tellme about comp asking me about
comedy, and I tell you I used towatch all of that, and none of
them made me be like, I wanna bea stand-up.
It never happened until MissyReddit said it that day.
And I was just like, let's giveit a try, see what happened.
I was like, boom.
I guess it was always in me.
I guess somebody had to say,hey, bro, you should be doing
this.
SPEAKER_02 (08:48):
Yeah, you should.
You should, man.
Like you the creativity behindyou is is is it's fucking
genius, bro.
I'm not gonna lie to you, man.
Now you had a uh comedy, you hada comedy album out called
Pandemic Jokes.
Uh I'm guessing by the title, itwas recorded in the pandemic.
SPEAKER_01 (09:04):
It was recorded there right after, toward the
end of the pandemic.
It was recorded.
It was recorded then uh that'sback when I was doing uh blue
comedy, y'all.
So anybody, anybody who seesthis, they'd be like, hold on.
The comedy I seen ain't beenthat was back when I was doing
blue.
I done switched from blue toclean now.
But I recorded it back then.
It's a video to it that won'tsee the light of day.
(09:27):
Uh, but the audio is out there.
The audio is out there.
And it is right.
I did put it in film festivals.
The visual is out on those filmfestivals, and I got nominated
and all that on the filmfestivals.
However, it was an issue withthe final cut of the video that
lasted way longer than it shouldhave had.
(09:47):
So by the time it got rectified,I was like, well, we way outside
the pandemic now.
So I mean, I'm not dropping it.
I mean, that's how that's thatwas my call.
Like it's old, you know what I'msaying?
Like, you had jokes in thepandemic, it's for that time.
And after we had all that stuffrectified with the person who
did the video and who's gonnaget credit for this and that and
(10:08):
all that, I was like, man, itjust ain't gonna see the light
of the day with the video in.
Because it's just it's just tooold at this point in time.
So I like I come out with a witha mask on and everything, you
know what I mean?
So it's like all that stuff, Imean, it's a rap.
SPEAKER_02 (10:23):
Yeah.
Yeah.
How was the pandemic comedy?
Like, how was the experience incomedy with during the pandemic?
So I remember Zoom shows.
That shit was wild.
SPEAKER_01 (10:31):
I did my first corporate show during the
pandemic, uh, and it was onZoom.
So they was like, you know, weused to have was for black
Microsoft, I think it's the nameof the group.
There's a lot of black IT peoplethat work for Microsoft.
They got like their own littlegroup or whatever, they do
stuff.
And um, they was like, yeah, wetrying to have this, you know,
this beat, this conference orwhatever.
And since, you know, can'tnobody come in the office due to
(10:54):
the pandemic, you know, we'dlike to have a comedian.
It was on Zoom.
So I was able to do that.
And I that made me like cleanstart making me start like clean
up jokes.
Because you get paid, you know,you get paid the corporate money
doing comedy.
Hey, special late.
Hey, hey.
So um, so I had I had a few ofthose where it was Zoom shows.
(11:15):
Uh, we had some other shows thatwas like underground shows where
basically, you know, uh, didn'tnobody really know.
You if you knew, you knew.
One of them type of situationswhere we'd gather a whole bunch
of people in there and do itbecause we had regulations on
how many people, this, that,another.
And then at Zany's, my homeclub, they would spread
everybody out.
So it'll probably be at 60%capacity during the pandemic.
(11:38):
Instead of filling out, they'lldo like 60% and spread everybody
out.
Another show, because we had thecomedy bar here during that time
as well, and they had a patio.
So I would do a lot of shows outthere in the patio.
So I really got my chops upduring the pandemic because so
many, a lot of comedians wasn'tcoming out, or they were scared
to come out.
And then the ones who was, wewas getting work out the
(12:01):
yin-yang because it was like,hey, we'll come out and do the
underground show.
We'll come out and do the patioshow.
You know, of course, we wasusing Licefall and sanitizer
like crazy, but it was like, I'mgonna get it.
And I was able to get my chopsup and able to get in some rooms
that probably normally Iwouldn't be able to get into,
you know, and headline theweekend.
I wasn't headlined at the time,but I had like 40 minutes, 45,
(12:25):
and I was able to do that.
So that was able to grow mycomedy during the pandemic.
Uh, so that's why I felt like Ineed to get all this stuff out.
Because I did have a lot ofjokes during the pandemic, about
the pandemic, because to me itwas, it was stupid.
It was like the rules y'alltelling us, y'all told us to do
in preschool (12:42):
wash your hands, cover your mouth, wipe your
nose, don't sneeze on people,don't touch people.
That was like that was the rulesof the pandemic.
For some reason, like we we lostthat during the pandemic, and
you know, don't stand so closeto people.
Like, this is all the stuffy'all taught us in kindergarten,
first grade.
And we gotta go back to thembasic rules to keep from giving
(13:04):
everybody this disease.
You know what I'm saying?
So I had a bunch of jokes aboutthat and stuff that was going on
in my personal life at the time.
Uh, so I felt like I really needto get that stuff out.
So it's out there on audio.
Jokes I don't even tell no more,don't even touch no more.
Um, but the visual won't see theday of light.
I'm sorry.
(13:27):
Unless you was at unless she wasat those film festivals.
That's the only way we see.
SPEAKER_02 (13:31):
Man, the the pandemic was a crazy time.
I was doing Zoom comedy.
I was doing I forgot it was someapp up there called Curtain Call
or something I was using.
And that was that was aninteresting time.
It was actually one of the besttimes for me as a comedian,
anyway, because it forced me tosit at home, write, and study.
Yep.
(13:52):
It forced me to get better.
So that was like the my peak.
And the comedy clubs here, theywas just shut down.
They was everything was shutdown.
When they finally opened up,they were serving bottles of
water and chips.
SPEAKER_01 (14:03):
Yeah, just water and chips?
That was it.
Schools, school, school.
SPEAKER_00 (14:10):
Right.
That's their field trip,Montane.
All they needed was thesandwich.
Right.
SPEAKER_02 (14:17):
Man, we was going through it over in comedy and
that thing.
It was interesting because I hada couple of COVID jokes, but now
it's just like, can't even usethem things no more, bro.
SPEAKER_01 (14:28):
Nah, you can't you can't use it, man.
Don't nobody even want to thinkabout them times, man.
That's the crazy part.
Don't nobody want to think aboutthem times because a lot of
people, you know, passed awayduring that time and all that.
So I'll tell you what's crazy.
Like, I did all them shows,never called COVID, until I got
invited to a Christmas party atthe comedy club.
So I was in and out of comedyclubs doing all these shows in
(14:50):
person, never called COVID.
They said, hey y'all, we'regonna have a Christmas party at
the comedy club at Zanies.
We had a Christmas party atZanies.
They're like, for the end of theyear, we're gonna throw a big
Christmas party, all y'all come,went to Christmas party, called
Coke.
I was so hot.
I was like, so I did all this,never caught it.
Went to one Christmas party,called Coke.
Great.
SPEAKER_02 (15:09):
I caught COVID at work.
That's crazy.
First time.
Second time I caught it, I wasat work.
And the last time I caught it, Iwas in California.
And I must have caught it beforeI even left Virginia.
I was dying in the airport inAtlanta.
I was like, yo, this ain't thisain't it.
I don't think I'm gonna do theshow.
(15:30):
I never had so many medicineballs from Starbucks in the air.
I was I was dying.
I was like, nah, this ain't it.
So you caught it three times,man.
I caught it, I caught it twoweeks after I got the
vaccination because my jobrequired me to get the vaccine.
And I caught it two weeks after.
I was like, man, what the f andI was like, I should return this
shit, but it's all good, man.
SPEAKER_01 (15:50):
Man, look, let me tell you, I caught and mine
wasn't even in bed.
Like, I didn't even know I hadit until my wife had cooked me
some breakfast and they broughtus some orange juice.
So I'm because I was workingfrom home.
So she brought me some breakfastand orange juice.
I'm sitting here eating like thebacon, the eggs.
I'm like, I was like, I don'teven taste, like, what's going
on?
So I got the orange juice, andyou know you drink some orange
(16:12):
juice, you're gonna taste thatorange juice.
I drank the orange juice, ittastes like straight up water.
I said, Yep, got cold.
I said, I got it.
I said, I got it.
I said, I can't.
But outside of that, I was fine.
I like I didn't get sick with nocoughing, sneezing, fever.
I just couldn't taste and smell.
SPEAKER_02 (16:29):
That was it.
Oh, I could I could do taste andsmell.
When I caught it, story, becausepeople don't know this much.
But when I caught it, I gottested two times in the day.
Because I was like, ain't no wayin hell I got this.
So at the time I was stayingwith my folks, I was scared
because then news, if you'reover 60 something, you know,
you're gonna die with it.
I ended up getting a hotel atRed Roof in.
(16:50):
In order for me to tastesomething, I was licking my
deodorant to see if I was ableto taste.
I started losing my mind.
I was licking deodorant like icecream.
Degree has a crazy taste to it.
Anyway, I was licking deodorantin the hotel, bro.
I was so scared.
SPEAKER_01 (17:06):
This man said he was licking deodorant, bro.
Licking my deodorant.
Hey, if somebody would have seenit, they was like, hey, we gotta
get these junkies out of thishotel.
Who keeps allowing thesecrackheads in here?
We got somebody here lickingdeodorant.
SPEAKER_02 (17:22):
Licking deodorant, smelling is like every couple of
hours, I'm licking it, man, andI'm like, I'm dying.
The covenant wasn't killing you,it was the deodorant that was
killing you.
I've done this before.
I'm taking sense of dining andgo like, I can taste the mint,
like I'm squeezing in my mouth.
Because I was so scared, bruh.
And yeah, the next thing youknow, all the people in the
(17:45):
house caught it.
Everybody know.
Everybody.
I was like, damn, I bring it inthe crib.
I should have just stayedlooking at the odor in that red
roof.
SPEAKER_01 (17:55):
Yeah, that's the only way I found out it was
over.
My wife wouldn't let me leavethe room.
She was like, nope.
She was treating me like, shewas treating me like a ceiling
on color purple.
She'll leave the food at thedoor and knock on it.
I opened the door, she gone.
Food just sitting there on thefloor.
So the only way I realized itwas gone.
Because I was sitting in theroom, I ain't gonna lie.
I didn't shower for like two,three days.
(18:16):
Because I was just in a bedroom.
Like, I'm not, I'm not doingnothing.
I'm just I'm just sitting herewatching TV and working.
And boy, washing dryer had goneout.
No, the dryer had gone out.
And she was like, look, you canleave the bedroom when everybody
go to sleep at like 11, at like10 o'clock to go find out what's
wrong with the dryer.
So I pulled the dryer, I jumpedbehind the dryer and I sniffed.
(18:39):
I said, I said, man, what isthat?
I said, man, they dirty clothes.
Funky.
So I was working on the dryer,I'm fixing it.
I jumped back over the dryer,push it back.
I was like, I said, golly.
SPEAKER_00 (18:49):
I said, man, is Simon here?
And I did like this.
I said, dang, that's me.
I said, I said, bro.
SPEAKER_01 (18:57):
I got that shower so fast.
I said, well, I'm done withCOVID.
I said, I'm over here stanking.
I've been telling my wife allthe time, I said, my funk cured
COVID.
SPEAKER_02 (19:05):
This man is musty and I'm licking the order.
SPEAKER_01 (19:09):
I I can see how they say you humans are meant to be
around people.
Regardless if it's your family,girlfriend, you meant to be
around people.
Because that whole week I was inhere, I'm talking about, I was
like, ain't nobody reallytalking to me.
I'm just in here.
I ain't taking no, I ain't careabout nothing.
I ain't shaving my head, I ain'ttaking no shower, I ain't doing
(19:29):
that.
You got left alone a few days,you end up licking deodorant.
You end up losing your mind.
That's what happened.
You end up losing your mind.
SPEAKER_02 (19:37):
All I had was Tubi.
I didn't have Netflix at thetime, so you can imagine the
rabbit hole I went down in Tubi.
But that that was uh damn, thatwas an interesting time, man.
I ain't gonna be.
You the first person on air thatheard me say that I didn't look
deodorant in the hotel.
That is crazy.
I gotta taste something, youknow what I mean?
(20:00):
I had eight.
I had eight, and I was like, andthen I'm like eating two pants,
I gotta taste something.
SPEAKER_01 (20:07):
Something gotta happen.
Hey bro, you could have justgone and got peppermints, man,
and that would have done thetrick.
You could have went and got someblack licorice.
You like anything like thatwould have done the trick.
An onion, anything, this fastliquor deodorant is crazy.
But like I said, we you get tobe in by yourself for so long,
ain't nobody really talking toyou ain't seeing nobody.
(20:29):
That's what happens.
You know, losing your mind.
SPEAKER_02 (20:32):
I think I was like, it's whatever.
It's whatever.
At that point, I was like, damn,because nobody was answering the
phone.
I'm in the sketch neighborhoodat that.
I'm like, I can't fight forshit.
Like, I'm just like, I'm like, Iain't about to go ground the
street to go get nothing to eat,man.
I done eight on the way overhere.
I'm going home.
I had my sister throw my clothesout door outside.
(20:53):
You know, it's crazy when youask people to give you some some
clothes, something.
They always find the raggediestclothes that you ain't never
worn in a year.
I done been out of ATT for overfive years.
They didn't find ATT uniformswith the logo on.
Where do you find this?
I ain't seen this a year.
(21:13):
Samsung S4.
I'm like, no, how do you findthis shirt in it?
SPEAKER_01 (21:21):
I know this wasn't at the top of the pile.
I know this one.
You had to search for that shit.
SPEAKER_02 (21:27):
Neck of the collar all pulled down to your chest,
polo shirt, the collar allscratched down.
I never wear this no more.
What fine is that?
And they got the dare to give mesome sweatpants.
I said, the ATT collar shirt,don't even go with sweatpants.
I'm already licking deodorant inTupaces.
Now they gotta walk out andcheck out in this outfit.
(21:47):
Man, I left my kid the room andjust walked down.
I was like, I ain't damn aboutto see me.
Hey, they had you out herelooking homeless, man.
SPEAKER_00 (21:53):
A Tyler shirt and some giant pants.
SPEAKER_01 (21:57):
That is the homeless attire right there, man.
Just struggling.
That is hilarious.
Hey, laugh in my pain, bro.
That's all you can do, man.
Cause that that's the that thewhole I'm sure we don't have the
work story.
I'm sure somebody don't.
I'm sure somebody's out there.
Yeah, then the pandemic, I wasout there doing some wild stuff.
SPEAKER_02 (22:19):
You know what I mean?
I think the wildest thing I didwas I got so hot, I walked
outside and a wife beat her andbut basketball shorts, because
it was like, I go with COVID NewYear's Eve of 2021.
I walked outside, it's coldoutside.
I'm like, oh man, this feels sogood.
I just I know my neighborsthinking something off me.
(22:39):
I said, this just Yeah, it madeinsane out here.
They look at I live in a whiteneighborhood.
I'm like, yeah, I know theythink they I'm just walking down
the street, just jolly.
SPEAKER_01 (22:48):
But it's all good, man.
I'm I'm glad I ain't had none ofthat.
I just lost smell and taste.
SPEAKER_02 (22:54):
That was it.
You lost smell.
I lost my mind.
You sitting there crunching inthe room messing with the dryer.
And I'm sitting there.
SPEAKER_01 (23:03):
Funky as all get out.
SPEAKER_02 (23:05):
Who were some of your biggest inspirations in
comedy?
Like, who was that comedian?
You was like, damn, I gotta.
SPEAKER_01 (23:10):
It's gonna it's gonna sing, it's gonna sing
type.
So it's like Bernie Mac, ofcourse.
I used to really love watchingsee it.
Uh Dave lately, what Dave wasdoing at Fire of the Stars.
Dave, during this time, he wasgetting off from get-go.
I just like the way Dave couldtalk about random stuff and just
make it funny.
Some stuff that's everydayrandom and make it funny.
(23:32):
Here lately, who's aninspiration to me is Ali Sadiq,
as I watch him talk about hisfamily stuff and growing up and
stuff like that.
Because my stuff is based off ofthat.
Uh, it's just stuff in my lifeand what I grew off of.
Because I just always figured,you know, can't nobody say
you're stealing jokes if you'retalking about stuff that
actually happened to you.
You know what I'm saying?
Stuff happened with my familyand stuff like that.
You can't say I stole your joke.
(23:54):
And I really experienced this,and it's my family stuff.
You know what I mean?
So I I really love Ali Sadiq'sstyle with the storytelling,
this, that, and the other.
Uh, so he's been the inspirationlately uh with that.
But yeah, though those are theones.
I'm not finna get on here andsay some Richard Pride, because
I wasn't old enough.
I'm not finna say Eddie Murphy.
I only saw one, I saw EddieMurphy acting more than I saw
(24:15):
stand-up.
Like when his stand-up came out,I couldn't even understand what
was going on or what he wastalking about.
Um so I'm not finna be thattaboo with it.
So the ones I seen when it cameto my Comic View Days, Def Con
the Jam, Burning, said Dave, um,you know what I'm saying.
And like I said, Ali Sadiq hererecently has been inspiration
(24:36):
for sure.
Sure.
Especially from the business endfrom I leave.
From Alien, from the businessend, I would love to just sit
down with him one time and justgo over the business of comedy.
He has, man, he's been doing histhing from the business end.
SPEAKER_02 (24:49):
Yeah, yeah.
They won't give him a Netflixspecial, but this man has been
dropping special.
For what?
SPEAKER_01 (24:55):
Yeah, for what?
He don't need it.
He's on YouTube killing.
And I've seen Domino Effect onHulu.
I don't know how long it's beenon there when I logged on last
week.
Alice D Domino Effect.
And that's on Hulu now.
So he done got made all thatmoney off YouTube.
So this is how he does it, ifyou don't know, or if any fan
out there listen don't know.
He'll drop it on Patreon when hegets done with his album.
(25:16):
Special.
Whenever he get everything youredit cut up, he'll drop it on
Patreon and you can get it forlike$10,$15 a person.
All right, so you make all themoney from Patreon from doing
that.
Then he drop it on YouTube, andthen he's gonna get paid from
YouTube from all the millions ofviews that he gets on YouTube.
And then now he done sold DominoEffect one on Hulu.
So that's another check.
So off that one special, thefirst Domino Effect, he done got
(25:39):
three different checks anddropping them in different
times, which is crazy.
And he and he making a killingoff of I ain't count the man
pockets, but I'm just going offwhat he says his process is, and
he said he's making good moneyoff of doing that process.
SPEAKER_02 (25:54):
So he's one of the greatest storytellers, and I
hate to say this person's name.
You know, Cosby was a goodstoryteller as well, too.
SPEAKER_01 (26:06):
Hey, I say Ali is the greatest out of scene for
the fact that you done droppedDomino Steck 1, 2, and 3, and
they all run together.
It go from one age to another.
Like it is, it could be a movie.
This I said, when I firstwatched those, I said, this man
done made a comedy album seriesthat could be a movie about his
(26:28):
life.
You can't watch two withoutwatching one.
You can't watch four withoutwatching three.
You gotta watch a previous oneto even understand what's going
on and all those domino effects.
I said I ain't never seen that.
I heard that before in my life.
Not in comedy.
Not in comedy.
That's crazy.
SPEAKER_02 (26:46):
It's a genius, man.
I seen Eile perform a few timeshere in Virginia Beach.
And I'm actually supposed to seehim in November.
And I do gotta give him hisflowers, man.
Hopefully, if Eile ever listensto this interview, he comes on
the show.
SPEAKER_01 (27:00):
At least let one of us get a guest spot.
Yeah.
I ain't gonna lie, I showed himto hit him up about a spot.
Him and Marcus Wiley.
I'd hit both of them up by a canyour boy get a spot.
I ain't got no responses, but Iain't got none either.
I might get blocked, but he justuh I think he just released
Patrice O'Neill's special on hisYouTube channel.
Yeah, he bought it and then hejust released it.
(27:22):
Yep.
Yeah, that was.
He bought the rights to hisspecial.
Yeah.
Damn.
So you know he's getting thatpaper.
Caved up, caked up, and he ain'tdone drop it special.
That's the crazy part.
He ain't done dropping special.
He said he got like three morehe gonna do.
SPEAKER_02 (27:37):
You getting paid because he's touring doing it
while he's on tour, so he'sgetting paid from the tour.
Then you put it on Patreon,YouTube, and then selling it to
like a Hulu too.
And I know he got a couple, himand Marcus got one.
They stuffed some of their stuffon um Tubi.
Yeah.
Hey man.
SPEAKER_01 (27:52):
That's the way with the future.
You gotta go where the peopleare, man.
You gotta go with people arewherever you at.
If you ain't got Tubi, if youain't got Hulu when you got
Tubi, I'm dropping it there too.
You know what I mean?
They gotta go where the peopleare, make that money.
SPEAKER_02 (28:04):
That's it, because Lil Rail just had his special
come up about a couple of weeksago.
The first Tubi special, originalTubi special that it is.
And that was actually prettydecent.
Is there a comedian?
SPEAKER_01 (28:15):
I forgot about Earthquake.
Earthquake just dropped aspecial Netflix too.
And he's one of my inspirationstoo.
Earthquake, he just dropped oneon Netflix.
SPEAKER_02 (28:21):
Yeah, I think it's the second one up there.
I think it came out either todayor uh Tuesday.
Uh Tuesday.
It came out on Tuesday.
Is there a comedian that youwork with that you was like in
awe?
Like he's like, man, this thisperson here is a beast.
Like the way that they maneuverthe crowd, the business behind
the scenes.
SPEAKER_01 (28:38):
It'd probably be a little controversial.
Andrew Schultz.
I got the opportunity uh to openup for Andrew Schultz when he
came to Zanies.
So it was inspirational to watchhim and I work because he his
kind of unorthodox, the way hedoes his comedy.
And it's just it was justamazing sitting and watch him,
the way he can control thecrowd, the stuff he does, you
(29:00):
know, from the business end ofit.
Because I was able to hear someof the business end of it when I
came, when he came back, andthen we just sitting around
talking.
So the way he was able to riseup and come, you know, the stuff
he was doing on Instagram, hewas mainly, and I could be
wrong, but he was mainly one ofthe first ones that were just
clipping up their jokes and justputting stuff out, like every
day, every other day, everyweek.
(29:21):
And he was just putting stuffout, putting stuff out uh on
Instagram and uh uh Facebook andYouTube.
So um it was just amazing to bewith him and see how that.
Matter of fact, when I opened uphim, it was during the pandemic,
and uh he went and wrote a song.
He got a song called Open HerUp, and he was talking about the
pandemic, like we need to openeverything back up.
So it was just amazing just tosee how he move, operate, think
(29:44):
about jokes.
Because me and him, because wewould sit back there and have a
conversation about something.
And you think it's nothing.
We just back there just chattingit up.
15 minutes into a set, whaty'all was talking about
backstage, this is what he wasmaking a joke about on stage.
And it worked, and people likebusting out.
Laughing.
And I'm like, that's crazy.
That's crazy.
So I don't know if he would hehad the joke already and just
(30:04):
asking you about something.
You know how some people will,some comedians will test their
joke on you in conversation andyou don't know it.
You know what I mean?
So I mean it was just great tosee that writing process.
I was able to sit with uh Ikashas well when he came back
through and he was recording hisalbum.
He wanted people I was able tosee like get prepared for an
(30:26):
album, you know, go over stuff.
Because it was just a two-manshow.
It was just me and him.
So, you know, I'm back theretiming it.
He was like, How long was it?
I said, Oh, you got done tellingjokes like 55 minutes.
I gotta find two more minutes.
Or he'll go, he'll go over, youknow, two minutes and what he
wants and be like, oh, I gottafind a way to shave this down.
So just being in a room with himand watching that process of
(30:49):
doing the album and you know,getting it to the point of I
need the exact minute.
You know, I need this, I needthis recording to be 58 minutes.
And just trying to find thejokes to be right at 58 minutes,
and you know, what he need tocut back, what he needs to add
on, like that that was greattoo, just to sit back and see
that.
(31:09):
You know what I mean?
SPEAKER_02 (31:10):
Yeah.
Yeah.
Got to see D.L.
Hugley perform.
Now I didn't get the businessside, but the way that he
protected his brand was crazy.
And the way he told his jokes,like I went to a six o'clock
show, and then Odacious didn'thave uh he couldn't make the
index show, so when he was doingcrowd work, I told him it was a
comedian, he gave me a guestspot.
And he told the same set thesame way.
(31:35):
And it it it it astonished mehow he did that.
Now behind the camera, he justlike, man, just keep going, baby
boy.
I'm thinking he's supposed todraw some jewels on me, but it
might be because he ain't knowyou, you know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_01 (31:48):
It might be because he ain't know you, but you know,
some some people, you know, itjust depends.
Some people drop them jewels onyou, and then some won't because
they might have been hurt by oror, you know, because green room
conversations as comedians likeyou and I, whatever said in the
green room, stay in there.
But some comedians, they like torun their mouth.
So yeah, you and the headlinerhaving a decent conversation
(32:11):
back there, you think they ain'tgonna leave the green room next
thing you know, they done tookit to YouTube.
Yeah, Hugley said, blah, blah,blah.
You know, it's like, eh, I don'treally know you, so I might not
say too much.
Another, another comedian that'steaching me the business end,
who I'm on the road with now,Aaron Weber, that's who I'm on
the road with, quite.
I'm featuring for him, and he'steaching me something about the
business too.
So it's good to have thoseconversations with him about the
(32:33):
business end of it andprotecting your brand and you
know, what to do, what not todo, stuff like that.
Because a lot of a lot ofcomedians don't share, you know,
that bit.
You don't know about it untilyou win.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
So I suggest any comedian, ifyou know, if you run across an
owner of a club and they just inthe green room talking, just
(32:53):
stop what you're doing, just sitand listen.
Because you probably about tolearn something.
You know what I'm saying?
I ain't gonna say it's all thetime you're gonna learn
something, but it's a goodchance you're gonna learn
something about the business ifan owner of a club, manager of a
club, or somebody who's beendoing it for a long time, and
just sitting in there talking.
Because sometimes you ain'tgotta answer.
Sometimes they just get totalking, you just sit back there
(33:14):
and just listen and just soak itall in.
You know what I mean?
And then just see, see what youlearn out of that.
So that's that's how I learned alot of stuff and just being a
fly on the wall and justlistening and just soaking stuff
in, you know, because if you ifyou had, if you featuring for
somebody or you got a guest spotor hosting for somebody, and
they allow you to be in thegreen room.
If it's a big timer, likesomebody who done stole that a
(33:37):
bunch of shows, most of the timethe owner or managers gonna come
in there and just be like, hey,how you doing?
And they're gonna chop it up.
That's your time to take theheadphones out your ear, sit and
just listen, because you might,you probably finna learn
something.
Thanks.
SPEAKER_02 (33:51):
You see that a lot, man.
That green room was crazy.
Comedians do do, yeah, yeah.
I ain't gonna, you know, somecomedians do go on YouTube and
go do a bunch of, especiallysince the Cat Williams interview
on Club Shea Shay Mig.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (34:03):
I ain't understand.
Flock folks got mad at ShannonSharp for that.
He ain't do nothing.
He just sit there and let theman, the man just talked.
Shannon didn't really say a lotat all.
Why y'all mad at him?
Y'all mad at the wrong person.
SPEAKER_02 (34:15):
That man, that interview came out.
It was a lot of comedians.
I'm like, bro, we on the openmic circuit right now.
Ain't none of us showcase.
No.
We just not on, we that'smillionaires fighting in.
We trying to get to day spot.
Why we even worried about it?
I know I'm going, I know he'sgoing through.
SPEAKER_01 (34:31):
I'm like, no, you don't.
No, nah, nah.
That's a whole nother comedylevel.
We ain't got you yet.
So let them folks, let themcomedians have theirs.
SPEAKER_02 (34:40):
Before we sign off on this interview, once again,
Jay, I do appreciate you umcoming on and doing the
interview, bro.
It's it's been a blessing.
Because one of the things I I dolike to say, because I'm very
humble, is time is an expensivething that you can't get back.
So you two allot me, you know,45 minutes of your time is I
really appreciate that, man.
I really appreciate it.
SPEAKER_01 (35:00):
Man, I appreciate the invite, man.
I was surprised.
I was surprised when you was inthe inbox.
I was like, You want to wanna domy podcast?
I'm like, oh hell yeah, I'll doit.
Let's do it.
SPEAKER_02 (35:09):
Because I you know what's crazy?
I was like, man, this man got aspecial out on YouTube.
Let's see if he's gonna respondback.
Because I didn't hit up a fewpeople that got specials and
they won't respond back.
I had one just literally readthe message and was like, What's
the podcast about?
I'm like, bruh, what are youdoing?
I'm like, this is our record.
(35:30):
So I do appreciate it.
Because I was like, Yeah, youwere reachable, and man, we we
joke so much up here, and Ididn't open up about licking
deodorant to you.
SPEAKER_01 (35:39):
Hey, that was funny, bro.
I ain't gonna lie, I'm not gonnaforget that.
I'll be honest with you.
SPEAKER_02 (35:45):
I might pop up and see you out there, like, hey,
hey, you may got them deodorantin your book back.
SPEAKER_01 (35:50):
Nah.
Hey, them folks need to give youa commercial for that, bro.
You need you need a sponsorship.
From whatever brand that was,you need a sponsorship.
Degree.
It was degree.
Degree need to be sponsoringthis podcast, bro.
SPEAKER_02 (36:02):
Hey, man.
It was crazy because I used todo the roll-on deodorant, now I
do the spray.
Ever since I licked it that onetime, like, you know what?
It's over.
It's over.
I think I'm gonna go to spraynow.
You know, the whole zone can geta little hole in the hand there.
I'm not licking no more.
That's funny.
But if the folks want to followyou, brother, and and get in
contact with you, how can theydo that?
SPEAKER_01 (36:22):
Oh man, it's uh J Flake, the the word, not the
letter J.
J-A-Y.
F-L-A-K-E underscore comedy onInstagram, J Flake Comedy on uh
Facebook, J Flake Comedy, onTikTok, uh, YouTube is J Flake
Comedy as well.
The website, Jflake Comedy.com,everything J Flake Comedy.
(36:44):
And you get you can look it up.
I post my schedules and stuff onmy on my Instagram page and on
my website.
You can go there.
So meet me out in these streets.
I got some dates coming up.
Uh be in some different places,uh, featured for Aaron Weber.
So, you know, you get to see me.
You won't get to see me for anhour, but you get to see me do
about 25, 30 minutes or whatnot.
So, you know, and do that.
And also check out on the NateLand Entertainment YouTube page.
(37:07):
Check out my 13-minute showcaseuh on there as well.
I promise you, it's gonna beit's 13 minutes of heat.
Rome done told y'all, it's 13minutes of heat.
Go on there, listen to it, shareit with your people, share it
with your friends, leave acomment.
SPEAKER_02 (37:19):
Hey man, go, yeah, go check out the special.
I'm gonna call it a special,man.
Man say, yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (37:31):
That's a true story.
True story.
My daddy, little, like he and mydaddy, he probably is to weigh
15 pounds more than what heweighed in high school.
That man's 70 years old.
SPEAKER_02 (37:41):
Man say yeah.
He little, man.
Y'all went through TSA and yourmama took her shoes off and had
no socks on.
I'm like, what?
SPEAKER_01 (37:49):
Ain't no way somebody's feet should be just
raw dog in the floor like that.
There's no way.
No way.
Your toes just hitting the floorlike this right here.
Just nah, bro.
And look, people start payingattention to that.
It's a lot of people that dothat.
They don't have no socks ongonna do TSA, bro.
SPEAKER_02 (38:05):
A lot of people, a lot of people.
But I appreciate you, Jay.
And if you guys want to get incontact with me, Comedian Rome
on all social media platforms,no ID Podcast on Instagram and
YouTube is at ComedianRomeDavis.
You'll see this interview plusother interviews and my
stand-up, as well as my mother'sstand up as well, too, all on my
(38:25):
one channel.
So, man.
SPEAKER_01 (38:26):
Oh, your mom is a comedian too?
SPEAKER_02 (38:28):
Yeah, man.
SPEAKER_01 (38:29):
Oh, y'all got a family business going on, man.
That's fire.
SPEAKER_02 (38:32):
Hey, man, she just don't do open mic.
She's like, I gotta watchMadlock.
I'm too old for to go out therewith uh, I can't do all that
smoke in the area.
I'm like, that is hilarious.
I be trying to get her outthere.
She's like, nah, man, you know,I did a show Friday.
I said, You wanna come?
They smoke weed out there.
I can't be around that.
(38:52):
Well, you got it.
SPEAKER_01 (38:55):
I did a smoking jokes in LA one time, bro.
And them folks gave me like 15minutes.
And I tell you, about halfwaythrough my set, I was done.
Because I don't smoke.
So I got how everybody waslighting up, the whole room
filled with smoke.
I called contact, bro.
I didn't know what was going on.
SPEAKER_02 (39:18):
I did a cigar lounge last week.
I did a cigar lounge,black-owned cigar lounge.
I used to smoke, but I justcouldn't do it.
They had CBD cigars, peopleordering it.
I'm like, how you ashing yourcigar would next to the chicken
wings?
I went up, I went up first.
You know, etiquette, you know,you gotta stay the whole show.
Take the picture after the show.
(39:39):
I was in that thing, like, bro,I stink so bad.
And I'm in there just becauseright behind the comedians, we
won't smoking, but the the onesthat was behind us, they was
just pop up.
This is just the smoke justcoming out.
I mean, I was like, I'm about todrive home my drawers, bro.
I stink so goddamn.
Well, I don't want to stink mycar up like this, man.
You know how it is.
(40:00):
You gotta roll with the windows,yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (40:03):
It'd be the worst.
You get home and you just smellthe smoke on you, bro.
It'd be worse.
SPEAKER_02 (40:08):
Yeah, man.
It's my homie talking about goget a uh Vicks travel tab and
take a shower.
Clear your sinuses.
I said, Man, my sinuses is doneright now.
Nah, it's a wrap.
Yeah, it's crap.
We good.
We're good.
But Jay, I appreciate you,brother.
We're gonna sign off, man.
I appreciate you.
Thank y'all, man.
Thank you.
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to
another episode of the No I Deepwith your host Ron Davis.
I have here a comedian fromNashville, Tennessee.
He's been at Zany's performingtheir wise guy, Chocolate
Sunday's Comedy Bar.
He has a comedy album that'savailable right now on Title,
Spotify, and Apple.
He's the album has beennominated for the best comedy
album at the Jackson FilmFestival, and it was selected
(00:21):
for the second line filmfestival entitled Pandemic
Jokes, the one and only JayFlake.
How you doing today, boss?
I'm doing well, man.
SPEAKER_01 (00:28):
I appreciate the invite on the podcast, bro.
SPEAKER_02 (00:30):
Appreciate the time.
I tried to do my little ShannonSharp thing with my cue card,
but it ain't work out that way.
SPEAKER_01 (00:35):
Hey, that was good, man.
SPEAKER_02 (00:36):
That was good, bro.
You know how you do.
That man got a talk show, can'teven talk.
SPEAKER_00 (00:42):
You're right.
You see them everywhere.
He'd been nominated for 14grandmys.
He got seven grandchildren andfour grandbabies.
SPEAKER_02 (00:50):
My grandmother, he always says something like, My
grandmother told me if you don'tgo up to the well to get no
water, you're gonna bedehydrated.
Well, duh.
SPEAKER_00 (01:00):
You're right.
My grandmother said if you eatcatfish at 2 o'clock in the
morning with hot sauce on,you're gonna have heartburn.
I'm telling you, I'm tellingwhat you're saying now.
I'm telling what you say now.
SPEAKER_01 (01:14):
How you feeling today, brother?
I'm good, man.
SPEAKER_02 (01:17):
I can't complain, man.
I'm a uh I'm a fan.
I am a fan.
I appreciate that, man.
About right before I hit you up,you came up on my uh uh Explore
page.
And then I just you know,YouTube is the power of the
world, bro.
I was locked in.
And if you guys haven't seen theseason three showcase on Nate,
(01:38):
was it NATO Land'sEntertainment?
SPEAKER_01 (01:39):
Nate Nate Land Entertainment, yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (01:41):
Nate Land En public school, brother.
SPEAKER_03 (01:48):
Public school.
SPEAKER_02 (01:49):
It is it's amazing.
You will be hooked from fromit's like I think it's about 10,
11 minutes, and I probablywatched it probably watch it a
few times, and uh the joke, thethe jokes about TSA, parents
going to TSA with no socks on.
SPEAKER_00 (02:07):
That's a true story.
That is a true story.
SPEAKER_01 (02:11):
But I talk about man, all that all that true
stories, man.
Y'all, y'all say some peoplesaying jokes, man, them true
stories.
SPEAKER_02 (02:20):
You say you never seen a ghost story, a ghost
after 1910.
SPEAKER_01 (02:24):
That's it.
Hey, bro, you have not heard ofno ghosts.
Every ghost story ain't nobodyout there that died in like 2010
coming back to be ghost, bro.
Like, no, it's like, hold on,what's the deal?
So I had to, we have had, wewould have had to die at a
certain point in time to comeback and be a ghost.
(02:45):
I mean, I ain't heard no slaveghost stories either, so I don't
know if they're I don't know, Idon't know if black people are
allowed to come back and beghosts.
SPEAKER_02 (02:51):
Nah, you know, the only ghost we like is the holy
ghost.
We don't exactly, exactly.
Don't mess with that, man.
I'm sorry to give it away, butI've been watching.
Yeah, I wear husky pants.
I thought these was top chefLevi as from the back.
I'm like, dang.
SPEAKER_01 (03:08):
Somebody told me they still sell husky pants in
certain stores.
I didn't know that.
Yeah, they do.
Yeah, I thought it was overwith.
I thought that this point intime where they, you know,
everybody involved in folks'feelings and mental health and
stuff.
I just figured they just, hey,you in the me in section now.
You know what I'm saying?
Or something like that.
I just thought they just do itlike that.
Nah.
It was like, nah, they stillsell huskies.
(03:29):
And I and I learned that thewomen husky was named something
else.
I can't remember, but they wastagging me in it.
Like it's that nah, the womenhuskies was named, they had a
different name for the women.
SPEAKER_02 (03:38):
They try and mask it now as big and tall, but you
know.
SPEAKER_01 (03:43):
Hey now, big and tall story.
Big and tall started like a2-3X.
They started a 2-3X.
Like, where is the skinny tall?
I ain't skinny and tall, butit's some skinny dude out there
that tall, like, bruh, I ain'tgot nothing in this soul.
SPEAKER_02 (03:58):
Right.
Big and tall be having queensize shirts and king-sized
jackets over there.
SPEAKER_01 (04:04):
Let me tell you something.
My mama, uh, she doesembroidery.
And uh she used to do a lot ofmega sci-fi stuff.
You know, mega sci-fi got somebig boys.
Bro, she would literally do adesign on like a one X shirt
that'll cover the whole back ofthe shirt.
Then she's the next dude be likea five X.
He'd be like, Man, like thatsmall polo logo on the back of
that shirt.
(04:25):
It'd be the same, same sizelogo.
And I'd be like, man, that jokerlook like it's little bitty on
the back of that shirt again.
So she charge extra for that.
Folks get mad.
They'd be like, You charging meextra for something over 3X?
Yes, because the shirt I gottabuy is like$10 extra.
Like, what we talking about?
SPEAKER_02 (04:42):
Yeah, I'm five foot four.
My stuff is I'm I'm on theborderline of men's and boys'
husky.
I'm like, right in between.
SPEAKER_01 (04:52):
You know what I'm saying?
But you but you getting all theJordans before they sell out,
though.
You get what size, what size youwear?
SPEAKER_02 (04:58):
Eight and a half.
SPEAKER_01 (04:59):
Eight and a half, yeah, yeah.
Yours be in the store.
Yeah, you get you can wait twodays at the you can wait two
weeks at the Jordans come out.
Your eight, eight and a halfgonna be in there.
So it's in there.
See, I'm five nine, I weareleven.
If I don't catch it the day itdropped, they gone.
It ain't gone.
And for me, I just go to theain't no big and short stuff.
(05:19):
You know what I'm saying?
I'm chunky, but I ain't tall, soI just gotta find my size
wherever.
SPEAKER_02 (05:26):
Man.
Man, Jay.
How did you how okay?
When I went on your website andyour YouTube, I made notes,
right?
You've been doing it for aminute, energetic as hell, true
stories raw, right?
Like you said earlier.
And it's no uh, well, as theyoung folks say, no cap, but
it's no lies that I I it's verybelievable because I've been in
(05:46):
New Orleans.
I know it smelled like ass inthere.
So nice food.
Good too.
It smells like instinct.
How did how did you get yourstart your start into comedy?
And what was your reason behindgetting into comedy?
SPEAKER_01 (06:04):
Man, I always enjoyed comedy.
Um watched Def Comedy Jam as akid, and I used to love watching
Comic View.
People remember comedy used tocome on BT.
I used to watch Comic View allthe time, and none of that led
to me to be a comedian.
But I used to do stuff aroundthe house with my parents, like
I'd cut, I mock family members,we be out, I might mock
(06:26):
somebody, we out, and none ofthat still led to me doing
stand-up.
What led to me doing stand-up,because it's weird, because it's
like all the signs was there.
And I just, I don't know.
The Lord was just like, not yet,or even I it just never crossed
my mind.
But I was at, I work incorporate, so I was, I was,
somebody was training me at anew job.
It was an older black lady andI'm missing Rieto.
(06:48):
And I'm in there cutting up,trying to, because to me,
training be boring.
If anybody knows when you starta new job, go to it'd be you be
in there about to fall asleep.
So in between time, I always becutting up a little bit, bust a
joke here and there just to keepmyself awake.
And uh she told me, she waslike, You, you done missed your
calling.
I said, What you talking about?
She like, you ought to be, youshouldn't be a stand-up
(07:08):
comedian.
I was like, I ain't missed thatcalling, but that's the first
time anybody ever said that tome.
And I was like, nah, I ain'tmissed that calling.
So what I did was I hit, I askedaround to some people, like, how
do I get into comedy?
I didn't know a dude I went tohigh school with was running an
open mic.
So somebody's like, you ought toreach out to Brad, he does an
open mic.
So I reached out to him and Iwas like, what's up, bro?
(07:31):
Like, I heard you do comedy now.
Cause he was doing music, he wasrapping before, and then he
moved to comedy.
And I was like, I heard you wasdoing comedy.
He was like, Yeah.
And I was like, somebody told meto hit you up about doing open
mic.
He was like, Bet, you got fiveminutes.
I was like, I guess I hope so.
And he was like, all right,holler at me, I think it was
that same week, night, the nextweek.
He said, Holler, it was the thatnight he had it.
And he was like, Come the nextweek, I got you.
(07:54):
So I just wrote down like threejokes, man.
And I was like, all right, Iwent and I told my wife, I said,
if I got half the peoplelaughing in here, I keep doing
it.
If I don't have half the peoplelaughing, all right, I tried it,
I'm done.
I went in there with threejokes, total three jokes.
I had about 75% of the crowdlaughing, and it's been on ever
(08:15):
since.
That's it.
SPEAKER_02 (08:16):
I like how you're on ever since.
Def Comedy Jam and Comic Viewwasn't the reason because boy, I
get people up here that laughall the time.
Yeah, man, I was watching DeafComedy Jam.
I'm like, bro, you 22.
SPEAKER_01 (08:28):
Yeah, it's because it's crazy.
I tell people, they really tellme about comp asking me about
comedy, and I tell you I used towatch all of that, and none of
them made me be like, I wanna bea stand-up.
It never happened until MissyReddit said it that day.
And I was just like, let's giveit a try, see what happened.
I was like, boom.
I guess it was always in me.
I guess somebody had to say,hey, bro, you should be doing
this.
SPEAKER_02 (08:48):
Yeah, you should.
You should, man.
Like you the creativity behindyou is is is it's fucking
genius, bro.
I'm not gonna lie to you, man.
Now you had a uh comedy, you hada comedy album out called
Pandemic Jokes.
Uh I'm guessing by the title, itwas recorded in the pandemic.
SPEAKER_01 (09:04):
It was recorded there right after, toward the
end of the pandemic.
It was recorded.
It was recorded then uh that'sback when I was doing uh blue
comedy, y'all.
So anybody, anybody who seesthis, they'd be like, hold on.
The comedy I seen ain't beenthat was back when I was doing
blue.
I done switched from blue toclean now.
But I recorded it back then.
It's a video to it that won'tsee the light of day.
(09:27):
Uh, but the audio is out there.
The audio is out there.
And it is right.
I did put it in film festivals.
The visual is out on those filmfestivals, and I got nominated
and all that on the filmfestivals.
However, it was an issue withthe final cut of the video that
lasted way longer than it shouldhave had.
(09:47):
So by the time it got rectified,I was like, well, we way outside
the pandemic now.
So I mean, I'm not dropping it.
I mean, that's how that's thatwas my call.
Like it's old, you know what I'msaying?
Like, you had jokes in thepandemic, it's for that time.
And after we had all that stuffrectified with the person who
did the video and who's gonnaget credit for this and that and
(10:08):
all that, I was like, man, itjust ain't gonna see the light
of the day with the video in.
Because it's just it's just tooold at this point in time.
So I like I come out with a witha mask on and everything, you
know what I mean?
So it's like all that stuff, Imean, it's a rap.
SPEAKER_02 (10:23):
Yeah.
Yeah.
How was the pandemic comedy?
Like, how was the experience incomedy with during the pandemic?
So I remember Zoom shows.
That shit was wild.
SPEAKER_01 (10:31):
I did my first corporate show during the
pandemic, uh, and it was onZoom.
So they was like, you know, weused to have was for black
Microsoft, I think it's the nameof the group.
There's a lot of black IT peoplethat work for Microsoft.
They got like their own littlegroup or whatever, they do
stuff.
And um, they was like, yeah, wetrying to have this, you know,
this beat, this conference orwhatever.
And since, you know, can'tnobody come in the office due to
(10:54):
the pandemic, you know, we'dlike to have a comedian.
It was on Zoom.
So I was able to do that.
And I that made me like cleanstart making me start like clean
up jokes.
Because you get paid, you know,you get paid the corporate money
doing comedy.
Hey, special late.
Hey, hey.
So um, so I had I had a few ofthose where it was Zoom shows.
(11:15):
Uh, we had some other shows thatwas like underground shows where
basically, you know, uh, didn'tnobody really know.
You if you knew, you knew.
One of them type of situationswhere we'd gather a whole bunch
of people in there and do itbecause we had regulations on
how many people, this, that,another.
And then at Zany's, my homeclub, they would spread
everybody out.
So it'll probably be at 60%capacity during the pandemic.
(11:38):
Instead of filling out, they'lldo like 60% and spread everybody
out.
Another show, because we had thecomedy bar here during that time
as well, and they had a patio.
So I would do a lot of shows outthere in the patio.
So I really got my chops upduring the pandemic because so
many, a lot of comedians wasn'tcoming out, or they were scared
to come out.
And then the ones who was, wewas getting work out the
(12:01):
yin-yang because it was like,hey, we'll come out and do the
underground show.
We'll come out and do the patioshow.
You know, of course, we wasusing Licefall and sanitizer
like crazy, but it was like, I'mgonna get it.
And I was able to get my chopsup and able to get in some rooms
that probably normally Iwouldn't be able to get into,
you know, and headline theweekend.
I wasn't headlined at the time,but I had like 40 minutes, 45,
(12:25):
and I was able to do that.
So that was able to grow mycomedy during the pandemic.
Uh, so that's why I felt like Ineed to get all this stuff out.
Because I did have a lot ofjokes during the pandemic, about
the pandemic, because to me itwas, it was stupid.
It was like the rules y'alltelling us, y'all told us to do
in preschool (12:42):
wash your hands, cover your mouth, wipe your
nose, don't sneeze on people,don't touch people.
That was like that was the rulesof the pandemic.
For some reason, like we we lostthat during the pandemic, and
you know, don't stand so closeto people.
Like, this is all the stuffy'all taught us in kindergarten,
first grade.
And we gotta go back to thembasic rules to keep from giving
(13:04):
everybody this disease.
You know what I'm saying?
So I had a bunch of jokes aboutthat and stuff that was going on
in my personal life at the time.
Uh, so I felt like I really needto get that stuff out.
So it's out there on audio.
Jokes I don't even tell no more,don't even touch no more.
Um, but the visual won't see theday of light.
I'm sorry.
(13:27):
Unless you was at unless she wasat those film festivals.
That's the only way we see.
SPEAKER_02 (13:31):
Man, the the pandemic was a crazy time.
I was doing Zoom comedy.
I was doing I forgot it was someapp up there called Curtain Call
or something I was using.
And that was that was aninteresting time.
It was actually one of the besttimes for me as a comedian,
anyway, because it forced me tosit at home, write, and study.
Yep.
(13:52):
It forced me to get better.
So that was like the my peak.
And the comedy clubs here, theywas just shut down.
They was everything was shutdown.
When they finally opened up,they were serving bottles of
water and chips.
SPEAKER_01 (14:03):
Yeah, just water and chips?
That was it.
Schools, school, school.
SPEAKER_00 (14:10):
Right.
That's their field trip,Montane.
All they needed was thesandwich.
Right.
SPEAKER_02 (14:17):
Man, we was going through it over in comedy and
that thing.
It was interesting because I hada couple of COVID jokes, but now
it's just like, can't even usethem things no more, bro.
SPEAKER_01 (14:28):
Nah, you can't you can't use it, man.
Don't nobody even want to thinkabout them times, man.
That's the crazy part.
Don't nobody want to think aboutthem times because a lot of
people, you know, passed awayduring that time and all that.
So I'll tell you what's crazy.
Like, I did all them shows,never called COVID, until I got
invited to a Christmas party atthe comedy club.
So I was in and out of comedyclubs doing all these shows in
(14:50):
person, never called COVID.
They said, hey y'all, we'regonna have a Christmas party at
the comedy club at Zanies.
We had a Christmas party atZanies.
They're like, for the end of theyear, we're gonna throw a big
Christmas party, all y'all come,went to Christmas party, called
Coke.
I was so hot.
I was like, so I did all this,never caught it.
Went to one Christmas party,called Coke.
Great.
SPEAKER_02 (15:09):
I caught COVID at work.
That's crazy.
First time.
Second time I caught it, I wasat work.
And the last time I caught it, Iwas in California.
And I must have caught it beforeI even left Virginia.
I was dying in the airport inAtlanta.
I was like, yo, this ain't thisain't it.
I don't think I'm gonna do theshow.
(15:30):
I never had so many medicineballs from Starbucks in the air.
I was I was dying.
I was like, nah, this ain't it.
So you caught it three times,man.
I caught it, I caught it twoweeks after I got the
vaccination because my jobrequired me to get the vaccine.
And I caught it two weeks after.
I was like, man, what the f andI was like, I should return this
shit, but it's all good, man.
SPEAKER_01 (15:50):
Man, look, let me tell you, I caught and mine
wasn't even in bed.
Like, I didn't even know I hadit until my wife had cooked me
some breakfast and they broughtus some orange juice.
So I'm because I was workingfrom home.
So she brought me some breakfastand orange juice.
I'm sitting here eating like thebacon, the eggs.
I'm like, I was like, I don'teven taste, like, what's going
on?
So I got the orange juice, andyou know you drink some orange
(16:12):
juice, you're gonna taste thatorange juice.
I drank the orange juice, ittastes like straight up water.
I said, Yep, got cold.
I said, I got it.
I said, I got it.
I said, I can't.
But outside of that, I was fine.
I like I didn't get sick with nocoughing, sneezing, fever.
I just couldn't taste and smell.
SPEAKER_02 (16:29):
That was it.
Oh, I could I could do taste andsmell.
When I caught it, story, becausepeople don't know this much.
But when I caught it, I gottested two times in the day.
Because I was like, ain't no wayin hell I got this.
So at the time I was stayingwith my folks, I was scared
because then news, if you'reover 60 something, you know,
you're gonna die with it.
I ended up getting a hotel atRed Roof in.
(16:50):
In order for me to tastesomething, I was licking my
deodorant to see if I was ableto taste.
I started losing my mind.
I was licking deodorant like icecream.
Degree has a crazy taste to it.
Anyway, I was licking deodorantin the hotel, bro.
I was so scared.
SPEAKER_01 (17:06):
This man said he was licking deodorant, bro.
Licking my deodorant.
Hey, if somebody would have seenit, they was like, hey, we gotta
get these junkies out of thishotel.
Who keeps allowing thesecrackheads in here?
We got somebody here lickingdeodorant.
SPEAKER_02 (17:22):
Licking deodorant, smelling is like every couple of
hours, I'm licking it, man, andI'm like, I'm dying.
The covenant wasn't killing you,it was the deodorant that was
killing you.
I've done this before.
I'm taking sense of dining andgo like, I can taste the mint,
like I'm squeezing in my mouth.
Because I was so scared, bruh.
And yeah, the next thing youknow, all the people in the
(17:45):
house caught it.
Everybody know.
Everybody.
I was like, damn, I bring it inthe crib.
I should have just stayedlooking at the odor in that red
roof.
SPEAKER_01 (17:55):
Yeah, that's the only way I found out it was
over.
My wife wouldn't let me leavethe room.
She was like, nope.
She was treating me like, shewas treating me like a ceiling
on color purple.
She'll leave the food at thedoor and knock on it.
I opened the door, she gone.
Food just sitting there on thefloor.
So the only way I realized itwas gone.
Because I was sitting in theroom, I ain't gonna lie.
I didn't shower for like two,three days.
(18:16):
Because I was just in a bedroom.
Like, I'm not, I'm not doingnothing.
I'm just I'm just sitting herewatching TV and working.
And boy, washing dryer had goneout.
No, the dryer had gone out.
And she was like, look, you canleave the bedroom when everybody
go to sleep at like 11, at like10 o'clock to go find out what's
wrong with the dryer.
So I pulled the dryer, I jumpedbehind the dryer and I sniffed.
(18:39):
I said, I said, man, what isthat?
I said, man, they dirty clothes.
Funky.
So I was working on the dryer,I'm fixing it.
I jumped back over the dryer,push it back.
I was like, I said, golly.
SPEAKER_00 (18:49):
I said, man, is Simon here?
And I did like this.
I said, dang, that's me.
I said, I said, bro.
SPEAKER_01 (18:57):
I got that shower so fast.
I said, well, I'm done withCOVID.
I said, I'm over here stanking.
I've been telling my wife allthe time, I said, my funk cured
COVID.
SPEAKER_02 (19:05):
This man is musty and I'm licking the order.
SPEAKER_01 (19:09):
I I can see how they say you humans are meant to be
around people.
Regardless if it's your family,girlfriend, you meant to be
around people.
Because that whole week I was inhere, I'm talking about, I was
like, ain't nobody reallytalking to me.
I'm just in here.
I ain't taking no, I ain't careabout nothing.
I ain't shaving my head, I ain'ttaking no shower, I ain't doing
(19:29):
that.
You got left alone a few days,you end up licking deodorant.
You end up losing your mind.
That's what happened.
You end up losing your mind.
SPEAKER_02 (19:37):
All I had was Tubi.
I didn't have Netflix at thetime, so you can imagine the
rabbit hole I went down in Tubi.
But that that was uh damn, thatwas an interesting time, man.
I ain't gonna be.
You the first person on air thatheard me say that I didn't look
deodorant in the hotel.
That is crazy.
I gotta taste something, youknow what I mean?
(20:00):
I had eight.
I had eight, and I was like, andthen I'm like eating two pants,
I gotta taste something.
SPEAKER_01 (20:07):
Something gotta happen.
Hey bro, you could have justgone and got peppermints, man,
and that would have done thetrick.
You could have went and got someblack licorice.
You like anything like thatwould have done the trick.
An onion, anything, this fastliquor deodorant is crazy.
But like I said, we you get tobe in by yourself for so long,
ain't nobody really talking toyou ain't seeing nobody.
(20:29):
That's what happens.
You know, losing your mind.
SPEAKER_02 (20:32):
I think I was like, it's whatever.
It's whatever.
At that point, I was like, damn,because nobody was answering the
phone.
I'm in the sketch neighborhoodat that.
I'm like, I can't fight forshit.
Like, I'm just like, I'm like, Iain't about to go ground the
street to go get nothing to eat,man.
I done eight on the way overhere.
I'm going home.
I had my sister throw my clothesout door outside.
(20:53):
You know, it's crazy when youask people to give you some some
clothes, something.
They always find the raggediestclothes that you ain't never
worn in a year.
I done been out of ATT for overfive years.
They didn't find ATT uniformswith the logo on.
Where do you find this?
I ain't seen this a year.
(21:13):
Samsung S4.
I'm like, no, how do you findthis shirt in it?
SPEAKER_01 (21:21):
I know this wasn't at the top of the pile.
I know this one.
You had to search for that shit.
SPEAKER_02 (21:27):
Neck of the collar all pulled down to your chest,
polo shirt, the collar allscratched down.
I never wear this no more.
What fine is that?
And they got the dare to give mesome sweatpants.
I said, the ATT collar shirt,don't even go with sweatpants.
I'm already licking deodorant inTupaces.
Now they gotta walk out andcheck out in this outfit.
(21:47):
Man, I left my kid the room andjust walked down.
I was like, I ain't damn aboutto see me.
Hey, they had you out herelooking homeless, man.
SPEAKER_00 (21:53):
A Tyler shirt and some giant pants.
SPEAKER_01 (21:57):
That is the homeless attire right there, man.
Just struggling.
That is hilarious.
Hey, laugh in my pain, bro.
That's all you can do, man.
Cause that that's the that thewhole I'm sure we don't have the
work story.
I'm sure somebody don't.
I'm sure somebody's out there.
Yeah, then the pandemic, I wasout there doing some wild stuff.
SPEAKER_02 (22:19):
You know what I mean?
I think the wildest thing I didwas I got so hot, I walked
outside and a wife beat her andbut basketball shorts, because
it was like, I go with COVID NewYear's Eve of 2021.
I walked outside, it's coldoutside.
I'm like, oh man, this feels sogood.
I just I know my neighborsthinking something off me.
(22:39):
I said, this just Yeah, it madeinsane out here.
They look at I live in a whiteneighborhood.
I'm like, yeah, I know theythink they I'm just walking down
the street, just jolly.
SPEAKER_01 (22:48):
But it's all good, man.
I'm I'm glad I ain't had none ofthat.
I just lost smell and taste.
SPEAKER_02 (22:54):
That was it.
You lost smell.
I lost my mind.
You sitting there crunching inthe room messing with the dryer.
And I'm sitting there.
SPEAKER_01 (23:03):
Funky as all get out.
SPEAKER_02 (23:05):
Who were some of your biggest inspirations in
comedy?
Like, who was that comedian?
You was like, damn, I gotta.
SPEAKER_01 (23:10):
It's gonna it's gonna sing, it's gonna sing
type.
So it's like Bernie Mac, ofcourse.
I used to really love watchingsee it.
Uh Dave lately, what Dave wasdoing at Fire of the Stars.
Dave, during this time, he wasgetting off from get-go.
I just like the way Dave couldtalk about random stuff and just
make it funny.
Some stuff that's everydayrandom and make it funny.
(23:32):
Here lately, who's aninspiration to me is Ali Sadiq,
as I watch him talk about hisfamily stuff and growing up and
stuff like that.
Because my stuff is based off ofthat.
Uh, it's just stuff in my lifeand what I grew off of.
Because I just always figured,you know, can't nobody say
you're stealing jokes if you'retalking about stuff that
actually happened to you.
You know what I'm saying?
Stuff happened with my familyand stuff like that.
You can't say I stole your joke.
(23:54):
And I really experienced this,and it's my family stuff.
You know what I mean?
So I I really love Ali Sadiq'sstyle with the storytelling,
this, that, and the other.
Uh, so he's been the inspirationlately uh with that.
But yeah, though those are theones.
I'm not finna get on here andsay some Richard Pride, because
I wasn't old enough.
I'm not finna say Eddie Murphy.
I only saw one, I saw EddieMurphy acting more than I saw
(24:15):
stand-up.
Like when his stand-up came out,I couldn't even understand what
was going on or what he wastalking about.
Um so I'm not finna be thattaboo with it.
So the ones I seen when it cameto my Comic View Days, Def Con
the Jam, Burning, said Dave, um,you know what I'm saying.
And like I said, Ali Sadiq hererecently has been inspiration
(24:36):
for sure.
Sure.
Especially from the business endfrom I leave.
From Alien, from the businessend, I would love to just sit
down with him one time and justgo over the business of comedy.
He has, man, he's been doing histhing from the business end.
SPEAKER_02 (24:49):
Yeah, yeah.
They won't give him a Netflixspecial, but this man has been
dropping special.
For what?
SPEAKER_01 (24:55):
Yeah, for what?
He don't need it.
He's on YouTube killing.
And I've seen Domino Effect onHulu.
I don't know how long it's beenon there when I logged on last
week.
Alice D Domino Effect.
And that's on Hulu now.
So he done got made all thatmoney off YouTube.
So this is how he does it, ifyou don't know, or if any fan
out there listen don't know.
He'll drop it on Patreon when hegets done with his album.
(25:16):
Special.
Whenever he get everything youredit cut up, he'll drop it on
Patreon and you can get it forlike$10,$15 a person.
All right, so you make all themoney from Patreon from doing
that.
Then he drop it on YouTube, andthen he's gonna get paid from
YouTube from all the millions ofviews that he gets on YouTube.
And then now he done sold DominoEffect one on Hulu.
So that's another check.
So off that one special, thefirst Domino Effect, he done got
(25:39):
three different checks anddropping them in different
times, which is crazy.
And he and he making a killingoff of I ain't count the man
pockets, but I'm just going offwhat he says his process is, and
he said he's making good moneyoff of doing that process.
SPEAKER_02 (25:54):
So he's one of the greatest storytellers, and I
hate to say this person's name.
You know, Cosby was a goodstoryteller as well, too.
SPEAKER_01 (26:06):
Hey, I say Ali is the greatest out of scene for
the fact that you done droppedDomino Steck 1, 2, and 3, and
they all run together.
It go from one age to another.
Like it is, it could be a movie.
This I said, when I firstwatched those, I said, this man
done made a comedy album seriesthat could be a movie about his
(26:28):
life.
You can't watch two withoutwatching one.
You can't watch four withoutwatching three.
You gotta watch a previous oneto even understand what's going
on and all those domino effects.
I said I ain't never seen that.
I heard that before in my life.
Not in comedy.
Not in comedy.
That's crazy.
SPEAKER_02 (26:46):
It's a genius, man.
I seen Eile perform a few timeshere in Virginia Beach.
And I'm actually supposed to seehim in November.
And I do gotta give him hisflowers, man.
Hopefully, if Eile ever listensto this interview, he comes on
the show.
SPEAKER_01 (27:00):
At least let one of us get a guest spot.
Yeah.
I ain't gonna lie, I showed himto hit him up about a spot.
Him and Marcus Wiley.
I'd hit both of them up by a canyour boy get a spot.
I ain't got no responses, but Iain't got none either.
I might get blocked, but he justuh I think he just released
Patrice O'Neill's special on hisYouTube channel.
Yeah, he bought it and then hejust released it.
(27:22):
Yep.
Yeah, that was.
He bought the rights to hisspecial.
Yeah.
Damn.
So you know he's getting thatpaper.
Caved up, caked up, and he ain'tdone drop it special.
That's the crazy part.
He ain't done dropping special.
He said he got like three morehe gonna do.
SPEAKER_02 (27:37):
You getting paid because he's touring doing it
while he's on tour, so he'sgetting paid from the tour.
Then you put it on Patreon,YouTube, and then selling it to
like a Hulu too.
And I know he got a couple, himand Marcus got one.
They stuffed some of their stuffon um Tubi.
Yeah.
Hey man.
SPEAKER_01 (27:52):
That's the way with the future.
You gotta go where the peopleare, man.
You gotta go with people arewherever you at.
If you ain't got Tubi, if youain't got Hulu when you got
Tubi, I'm dropping it there too.
You know what I mean?
They gotta go where the peopleare, make that money.
SPEAKER_02 (28:04):
That's it, because Lil Rail just had his special
come up about a couple of weeksago.
The first Tubi special, originalTubi special that it is.
And that was actually prettydecent.
Is there a comedian?
SPEAKER_01 (28:15):
I forgot about Earthquake.
Earthquake just dropped aspecial Netflix too.
And he's one of my inspirationstoo.
Earthquake, he just dropped oneon Netflix.
SPEAKER_02 (28:21):
Yeah, I think it's the second one up there.
I think it came out either todayor uh Tuesday.
Uh Tuesday.
It came out on Tuesday.
Is there a comedian that youwork with that you was like in
awe?
Like he's like, man, this thisperson here is a beast.
Like the way that they maneuverthe crowd, the business behind
the scenes.
SPEAKER_01 (28:38):
It'd probably be a little controversial.
Andrew Schultz.
I got the opportunity uh to openup for Andrew Schultz when he
came to Zanies.
So it was inspirational to watchhim and I work because he his
kind of unorthodox, the way hedoes his comedy.
And it's just it was justamazing sitting and watch him,
the way he can control thecrowd, the stuff he does, you
(29:00):
know, from the business end ofit.
Because I was able to hear someof the business end of it when I
came, when he came back, andthen we just sitting around
talking.
So the way he was able to riseup and come, you know, the stuff
he was doing on Instagram, hewas mainly, and I could be
wrong, but he was mainly one ofthe first ones that were just
clipping up their jokes and justputting stuff out, like every
day, every other day, everyweek.
(29:21):
And he was just putting stuffout, putting stuff out uh on
Instagram and uh uh Facebook andYouTube.
So um it was just amazing to bewith him and see how that.
Matter of fact, when I opened uphim, it was during the pandemic,
and uh he went and wrote a song.
He got a song called Open HerUp, and he was talking about the
pandemic, like we need to openeverything back up.
So it was just amazing just tosee how he move, operate, think
(29:44):
about jokes.
Because me and him, because wewould sit back there and have a
conversation about something.
And you think it's nothing.
We just back there just chattingit up.
15 minutes into a set, whaty'all was talking about
backstage, this is what he wasmaking a joke about on stage.
And it worked, and people likebusting out.
Laughing.
And I'm like, that's crazy.
That's crazy.
So I don't know if he would hehad the joke already and just
(30:04):
asking you about something.
You know how some people will,some comedians will test their
joke on you in conversation andyou don't know it.
You know what I mean?
So I mean it was just great tosee that writing process.
I was able to sit with uh Ikashas well when he came back
through and he was recording hisalbum.
He wanted people I was able tosee like get prepared for an
(30:26):
album, you know, go over stuff.
Because it was just a two-manshow.
It was just me and him.
So, you know, I'm back theretiming it.
He was like, How long was it?
I said, Oh, you got done tellingjokes like 55 minutes.
I gotta find two more minutes.
Or he'll go, he'll go over, youknow, two minutes and what he
wants and be like, oh, I gottafind a way to shave this down.
So just being in a room with himand watching that process of
(30:49):
doing the album and you know,getting it to the point of I
need the exact minute.
You know, I need this, I needthis recording to be 58 minutes.
And just trying to find thejokes to be right at 58 minutes,
and you know, what he need tocut back, what he needs to add
on, like that that was greattoo, just to sit back and see
that.
(31:09):
You know what I mean?
SPEAKER_02 (31:10):
Yeah.
Yeah.
Got to see D.L.
Hugley perform.
Now I didn't get the businessside, but the way that he
protected his brand was crazy.
And the way he told his jokes,like I went to a six o'clock
show, and then Odacious didn'thave uh he couldn't make the
index show, so when he was doingcrowd work, I told him it was a
comedian, he gave me a guestspot.
And he told the same set thesame way.
(31:35):
And it it it it astonished mehow he did that.
Now behind the camera, he justlike, man, just keep going, baby
boy.
I'm thinking he's supposed todraw some jewels on me, but it
might be because he ain't knowyou, you know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_01 (31:48):
It might be because he ain't know you, but you know,
some some people, you know, itjust depends.
Some people drop them jewels onyou, and then some won't because
they might have been hurt by oror, you know, because green room
conversations as comedians likeyou and I, whatever said in the
green room, stay in there.
But some comedians, they like torun their mouth.
So yeah, you and the headlinerhaving a decent conversation
(32:11):
back there, you think they ain'tgonna leave the green room next
thing you know, they done tookit to YouTube.
Yeah, Hugley said, blah, blah,blah.
You know, it's like, eh, I don'treally know you, so I might not
say too much.
Another, another comedian that'steaching me the business end,
who I'm on the road with now,Aaron Weber, that's who I'm on
the road with, quite.
I'm featuring for him, and he'steaching me something about the
business too.
So it's good to have thoseconversations with him about the
(32:33):
business end of it andprotecting your brand and you
know, what to do, what not todo, stuff like that.
Because a lot of a lot ofcomedians don't share, you know,
that bit.
You don't know about it untilyou win.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
So I suggest any comedian, ifyou know, if you run across an
owner of a club and they just inthe green room talking, just
(32:53):
stop what you're doing, just sitand listen.
Because you probably about tolearn something.
You know what I'm saying?
I ain't gonna say it's all thetime you're gonna learn
something, but it's a goodchance you're gonna learn
something about the business ifan owner of a club, manager of a
club, or somebody who's beendoing it for a long time, and
just sitting in there talking.
Because sometimes you ain'tgotta answer.
Sometimes they just get totalking, you just sit back there
(33:14):
and just listen and just soak itall in.
You know what I mean?
And then just see, see what youlearn out of that.
So that's that's how I learned alot of stuff and just being a
fly on the wall and justlistening and just soaking stuff
in, you know, because if you ifyou had, if you featuring for
somebody or you got a guest spotor hosting for somebody, and
they allow you to be in thegreen room.
If it's a big timer, likesomebody who done stole that a
(33:37):
bunch of shows, most of the timethe owner or managers gonna come
in there and just be like, hey,how you doing?
And they're gonna chop it up.
That's your time to take theheadphones out your ear, sit and
just listen, because you might,you probably finna learn
something.
Thanks.
SPEAKER_02 (33:51):
You see that a lot, man.
That green room was crazy.
Comedians do do, yeah, yeah.
I ain't gonna, you know, somecomedians do go on YouTube and
go do a bunch of, especiallysince the Cat Williams interview
on Club Shea Shay Mig.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (34:03):
I ain't understand.
Flock folks got mad at ShannonSharp for that.
He ain't do nothing.
He just sit there and let theman, the man just talked.
Shannon didn't really say a lotat all.
Why y'all mad at him?
Y'all mad at the wrong person.
SPEAKER_02 (34:15):
That man, that interview came out.
It was a lot of comedians.
I'm like, bro, we on the openmic circuit right now.
Ain't none of us showcase.
No.
We just not on, we that'smillionaires fighting in.
We trying to get to day spot.
Why we even worried about it?
I know I'm going, I know he'sgoing through.
SPEAKER_01 (34:31):
I'm like, no, you don't.
No, nah, nah.
That's a whole nother comedylevel.
We ain't got you yet.
So let them folks, let themcomedians have theirs.
SPEAKER_02 (34:40):
Before we sign off on this interview, once again,
Jay, I do appreciate you umcoming on and doing the
interview, bro.
It's it's been a blessing.
Because one of the things I I dolike to say, because I'm very
humble, is time is an expensivething that you can't get back.
So you two allot me, you know,45 minutes of your time is I
really appreciate that, man.
I really appreciate it.
SPEAKER_01 (35:00):
Man, I appreciate the invite, man.
I was surprised.
I was surprised when you was inthe inbox.
I was like, You want to wanna domy podcast?
I'm like, oh hell yeah, I'll doit.
Let's do it.
SPEAKER_02 (35:09):
Because I you know what's crazy?
I was like, man, this man got aspecial out on YouTube.
Let's see if he's gonna respondback.
Because I didn't hit up a fewpeople that got specials and
they won't respond back.
I had one just literally readthe message and was like, What's
the podcast about?
I'm like, bruh, what are youdoing?
I'm like, this is our record.
(35:30):
So I do appreciate it.
Because I was like, Yeah, youwere reachable, and man, we we
joke so much up here, and Ididn't open up about licking
deodorant to you.
SPEAKER_01 (35:39):
Hey, that was funny, bro.
I ain't gonna lie, I'm not gonnaforget that.
I'll be honest with you.
SPEAKER_02 (35:45):
I might pop up and see you out there, like, hey,
hey, you may got them deodorantin your book back.
SPEAKER_01 (35:50):
Nah.
Hey, them folks need to give youa commercial for that, bro.
You need you need a sponsorship.
From whatever brand that was,you need a sponsorship.
Degree.
It was degree.
Degree need to be sponsoringthis podcast, bro.
SPEAKER_02 (36:02):
Hey, man.
It was crazy because I used todo the roll-on deodorant, now I
do the spray.
Ever since I licked it that onetime, like, you know what?
It's over.
It's over.
I think I'm gonna go to spraynow.
You know, the whole zone can geta little hole in the hand there.
I'm not licking no more.
That's funny.
But if the folks want to followyou, brother, and and get in
contact with you, how can theydo that?
SPEAKER_01 (36:22):
Oh man, it's uh J Flake, the the word, not the
letter J.
J-A-Y.
F-L-A-K-E underscore comedy onInstagram, J Flake Comedy on uh
Facebook, J Flake Comedy, onTikTok, uh, YouTube is J Flake
Comedy as well.
The website, Jflake Comedy.com,everything J Flake Comedy.
(36:44):
And you get you can look it up.
I post my schedules and stuff onmy on my Instagram page and on
my website.
You can go there.
So meet me out in these streets.
I got some dates coming up.
Uh be in some different places,uh, featured for Aaron Weber.
So, you know, you get to see me.
You won't get to see me for anhour, but you get to see me do
about 25, 30 minutes or whatnot.
So, you know, and do that.
And also check out on the NateLand Entertainment YouTube page.
(37:07):
Check out my 13-minute showcaseuh on there as well.
I promise you, it's gonna beit's 13 minutes of heat.
Rome done told y'all, it's 13minutes of heat.
Go on there, listen to it, shareit with your people, share it
with your friends, leave acomment.
SPEAKER_02 (37:19):
Hey man, go, yeah, go check out the special.
I'm gonna call it a special,man.
Man say, yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (37:31):
That's a true story.
True story.
My daddy, little, like he and mydaddy, he probably is to weigh
15 pounds more than what heweighed in high school.
That man's 70 years old.
SPEAKER_02 (37:41):
Man say yeah.
He little, man.
Y'all went through TSA and yourmama took her shoes off and had
no socks on.
I'm like, what?
SPEAKER_01 (37:49):
Ain't no way somebody's feet should be just
raw dog in the floor like that.
There's no way.
No way.
Your toes just hitting the floorlike this right here.
Just nah, bro.
And look, people start payingattention to that.
It's a lot of people that dothat.
They don't have no socks ongonna do TSA, bro.
SPEAKER_02 (38:05):
A lot of people, a lot of people.
But I appreciate you, Jay.
And if you guys want to get incontact with me, Comedian Rome
on all social media platforms,no ID Podcast on Instagram and
YouTube is at ComedianRomeDavis.
You'll see this interview plusother interviews and my
stand-up, as well as my mother'sstand up as well, too, all on my
(38:25):
one channel.
So, man.
SPEAKER_01 (38:26):
Oh, your mom is a comedian too?
SPEAKER_02 (38:28):
Yeah, man.
SPEAKER_01 (38:29):
Oh, y'all got a family business going on, man.
That's fire.
SPEAKER_02 (38:32):
Hey, man, she just don't do open mic.
She's like, I gotta watchMadlock.
I'm too old for to go out therewith uh, I can't do all that
smoke in the area.
I'm like, that is hilarious.
I be trying to get her outthere.
She's like, nah, man, you know,I did a show Friday.
I said, You wanna come?
They smoke weed out there.
I can't be around that.
(38:52):
Well, you got it.
SPEAKER_01 (38:55):
I did a smoking jokes in LA one time, bro.
And them folks gave me like 15minutes.
And I tell you, about halfwaythrough my set, I was done.
Because I don't smoke.
So I got how everybody waslighting up, the whole room
filled with smoke.
I called contact, bro.
I didn't know what was going on.
SPEAKER_02 (39:18):
I did a cigar lounge last week.
I did a cigar lounge,black-owned cigar lounge.
I used to smoke, but I justcouldn't do it.
They had CBD cigars, peopleordering it.
I'm like, how you ashing yourcigar would next to the chicken
wings?
I went up, I went up first.
You know, etiquette, you know,you gotta stay the whole show.
Take the picture after the show.
(39:39):
I was in that thing, like, bro,I stink so bad.
And I'm in there just becauseright behind the comedians, we
won't smoking, but the the onesthat was behind us, they was
just pop up.
This is just the smoke justcoming out.
I mean, I was like, I'm about todrive home my drawers, bro.
I stink so goddamn.
Well, I don't want to stink mycar up like this, man.
You know how it is.
(40:00):
You gotta roll with the windows,yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (40:03):
It'd be the worst.
You get home and you just smellthe smoke on you, bro.
It'd be worse.
SPEAKER_02 (40:08):
Yeah, man.
It's my homie talking about goget a uh Vicks travel tab and
take a shower.
Clear your sinuses.
I said, Man, my sinuses is doneright now.
Nah, it's a wrap.
Yeah, it's crap.
We good.
We're good.
But Jay, I appreciate you,brother.
We're gonna sign off, man.
I appreciate you.
Thank y'all, man.
Thank you.
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