February 18, 2025 • 45 mins
What if a simple wardrobe choice could change the way you're perceived on stage? Theodore Taylor, better known as the "Bowtie Guy," joins us to unravel the origins of his distinctive comedic persona. Inspired by a character from Doctor Who, the bow tie has become more than just an accessory—it's his comedic badge, helping him craft punchlines that linger long after the laughter fades. Theodore takes us on his journey from the Houston Improv, sharing how he navigates the expectations and stereotypes often placed on black comedians, and why adaptability is the secret sauce in today's comedy scene.
Peek behind the curtain of stand-up comedy's unpredictable world as Theodore recounts his early career's comedic highs and lows. From a Michael Jackson joke that fell flat to a humorous saga involving a clean comedy show punchline mishap, Theodore's stories highlight the industry's camaraderie and the lessons learned from diverse audiences. We also explore the challenges and tensions within the comedy circuits, particularly for black comedians, and reflect on how societal dynamics shape a comedian's life both on and off stage.
Theodore opens up about the essential ingredients for success in comedy: likability, consistency, and relatability. Through candid discussions, we examine how personal heroes can disappoint and how comedians balance their intellectual and misfit personas. Theodore also spotlights his special, "Theodore ME Taylor's Bowtie Guy," inviting listeners to follow his journey and connect with our comedy community. Whether you're a comedy aficionado or curious about the craft's inner workings, this episode promises insights and laughs in equal measure.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to another episode
of the no ID Podcast.
I got here.
This man has a special out.
It's available everywhereexcept for Tubi, so I'm just
kidding the Bulldog guy,comedian, host, producer,
creative, I would say up andcoming, but he's already coming.
(00:25):
Pause, uh, the one and onlytheodore taylor.
How you doing today?
Speaker 2 (00:31):
I'm doing y'all how you doing everybody out there
man, we're doing good brother solet's go ahead and get into it.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
Okay, both, bowtie guy, your comedy special.
How did you come up with thename and what is a?
Speaker 2 (00:47):
bowtie guy.
I mean, I was doing comedy foryears and I'm a nerd as well, so
I don't know if you heard ofthis show called Doctor who,
mm-hmm.
Yeah, there's a gentleman underthe name Sam Smith.
He was one of the doctors andhe said bowties are cool.
I one day was like no, they are.
And I decided to wear it at ashow at the comic club I was
(01:07):
working at at the time.
I used to work in HoustonImprov, where basically all the
comics went and they would putme on or whatever.
And I decided to go off thatweekend with a bow tie and
people started liking it and Ijust started doing it.
It means absolutely nothing.
It just means you're just goingto see a dude in a bow tie
doing it.
It means absolutely nothing.
It just means you're just goingto see a dude in a bow tie.
(01:27):
When you watch it, you're goingto be like is this motherfucker
going to do bow tie jumps?
No, I'm not.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
I just got a bow tie on.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
She got a bow tie on.
The whole special is hilarious.
Ain't got shit to do with bowtie, but hey, it's's like.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
One of the things that I do is a niche that I have
.
It allows me to like when I wascoming up man.
I've been doing this since Iwas 18.
I'm 42 years old.
When you're going up as a blackcomedian, they sort of label
you as blue, they label you as ablue collar, they label you as
a dirty collar.
It don't matter.
I mean it don't matter becauseyou're old and whatever.
(02:10):
They still call you dirty.
I did this show in spring Texasone time and what they did
before me was being racist andwhat they did after me was
saying dirty jokes.
I was just doing regular malejokes, regular male cousin, you
know.
And she, this white lady, saidyou know, I like it, but I don't
like the vulgarity.
(02:31):
I was like, oh my vulgarity,just mine, okay, yeah.
And she just stayed on thereand kept on going.
I don't like the vulgarity.
And I was like are you talkingabout the black vulgarity dog
already?
What the fuck are you talkingabout?
Like what is going on.
So it also allows me to saydirty jokes and dress well while
(02:51):
I'm on stage.
So you don't really actuallysee it coming.
It's all just somepsychological hit that allows
you to put a button up on peopleand allow you to say whatever
the hell you want to say, and Idon't have to wear a three-ste
Steve Harvey suit.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Oh yeah, we ain't wearing no Steve Harvey suit.
Well, shout out to Steve.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
That's a little bit of a dress, but you know, that's
just not for me.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
You know, I can relate somewhat, because when I
first started stand-up I wasdoing like the Nike joggers with
the graphic t-shirts fromTarget, and then something
clicked.
I was like man, let me go aheadand just switch up a little bit
and start doing the button-ups,the jeans and the cardigans,
and I was like everything justflowed a little bit better.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
For some reason they allow you to say whatever the
hell you want to and don't thinkthat you're vulgar.
And you're not even beingvulgar.
You talk to a nightclub settingas a nightclub theme.
I understand why your brainwon't switch.
You're a grown-up with sellingalcohol and also the time where
(04:00):
I came up there I came up wasn'tas free as the words they are
now.
Everybody always talks aboutthis like is comedy being too
sensual?
Is it so sensual?
No, not really.
Like you can say a lot moreshit that you can say that you
couldn't do back then.
A lot more than you can do.
(04:21):
You've got to be a lot moreclever with it, a lot more than
you.
You just got to be a lot moreclever with it.
So like I just like.
It was really hard because Ialso, at the time when I was
coming out, there was ablue-collar comedy shit was
going on.
So you had a bunch of like.
You had to like because I grewup in the South.
You know, I'm from the South andI'm like I started out.
I started my stock comedy inHouston, texas.
You know it was toward theMidwest and stuff like that.
(04:43):
And then you sit there, you dothat stuff and people always,
for some reason, they want Idon't know why you left your job
, you left the regular world tocome into the nightclub world.
Just switch your brain.
You know it allows you toswitch your brain a little bit
more.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Facts yeah, you gotta be clever, because I know the
open mic scene.
Well, I'm in virginia, the openmic scene.
Here you just hear some peoplejust say some of the most
derogatory shit.
I'm like yo be a little bitmore clever and punch it up a
little bit to the point that youdon't understand.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Yeah I mean you just it's all rising.
You just can't go out therejust calling people the f?
Slur.
You know.
You know what I'm saying.
Like I'm not going to do it.
You know what I'm saying.
You can't go out there and becalled the F-slar.
You know what I'm saying.
Be smarter, like what era do welive in?
On top of that, like it's beingprofessional as well.
You got to know when I'm goingup there and this is the type of
(05:40):
audience I have, so I need toknow how to freaking cater.
I always say that's when itbecomes work.
It's just when you can, whenyou do whatever you want.
But if somebody's paying you todo a certain thing, it becomes
work at that time.
But it is, it's a job, it's acareer, you know.
(06:02):
You know what it is.
It's a job, it's a career, youknow.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
You know Definitely man and you started 18, so
you're like 24 years in the game.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Yeah, man, yeah, and I just got my special.
So you know, it worked.
It worked, Does it come true?
Nah, yeah, man, I started 18years old.
I was in theater.
I was in high school.
I started at 18 years old.
I was in theater, I was in highschool.
I mean, I basically switchedbeing from the theater to go to
(06:31):
doing stand-up.
I mean, like I was in college.
I mean I was part of a companyand I just called the mom.
I was like, let me see how thisworks, let's see how this works
.
And you know, like being anactor sitting in the door, I'm
like the immediate laughter.
I just kept on looking at thestuff that I did, Like I would
(06:54):
look at my like all the playsthat I've done, you know.
And then you just go well, Imean that's good, but nobody
knows I'm done.
There's no way to like capturethis.
There's no way to be likecapture this.
There's no way to be like tomake this your own.
You know there's a millionmillion guys that are just as
talented as me.
You know, just as you know, Iguess you know just as good as
(07:18):
me.
There's not many people asfunny as me or funny like me,
you know, so like it was aneasier route to go that I could
do it.
You know, so, like it was aneasier route to go that I could
do it.
You know, and that's anotherthing you gotta, you gotta know
if you can do it.
You know what I'm saying.
It's like it's kind of who'sgonna go out there and they do
(07:40):
the shit and it's like, oh, thisis fun, oh, this is fun.
Well, my dude, and they do thisshit and it's like, oh, this is
fun, oh, this is fun.
But, my dude, it's been yearsand you're not going nowhere.
Bro, you sold open mic scene,you're not.
You know what I'm saying you, Imean like Chris Rock saying you
know you say something and, uh,nobody laughs.
That's a sentence, it's not ajoke.
So, like you gotta, I mean bereal with yourself.
(08:03):
I call this the honest element.
Man, it's In any part of, like,the entertainment genre.
If you're an actor, you're adancer, you know.
Like you're a musician, Like itused to be, you can, you can
sing.
If you can sing, you can sing.
You know, now they have likeyou know you can tweet.
You have to tweak it.
Now they have a.
You know what's the teeth ain'tstuff they didn't use and you
(08:25):
know you can tweak.
You have to tweak it.
Now they have the.
You know the what's the T-Painstuff they be using.
You know what I'm saying Voicemodulators and stuff like that.
If you're an actor, you surroundpeople.
I noticed this when I was doinga deal.
It was a bunch of actors thatwere on the main stage of my
college and they weren't good.
But in that era, in that likeenvironment, In that era, in
that environment, they learn thepopularity contest the same way
that you can do it in Hollywood.
(08:47):
You have something that theywant and they start pushing you.
You don't have to be good at it, Just people around you say
you're good.
Same thing with music.
Same thing with that.
It's something about.
It's like dancing and comedy.
Either you can dance or youcan't.
(09:07):
I can see what you're doingright now.
You're not getting the stepsright.
You know what I'm saying.
Same thing with comedy.
I can see what you're doingright now.
You're not making them laugh.
The hottest element is thelaughing.
If they're not laughing, it'snot good.
And if you can probably weigh aniche in any way in this
(09:28):
business, if you make them laugh, that's the bottom line.
But you got to be honest withyourself.
Are you making them laugh, oris that fair to laugh at?
And I'm not the type of personto tell people not to do it,
because that same feeling youget is the same feeling I get.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
You're not shitting yourself, buddy you remember
your first time not getting agood crowd reaction, your first
bomb?
How did you come back from that?
Speaker 2 (10:00):
my first bomb, I remember my biggest bomb was I
was actually thinking about thisshit the other day was I was at
TSU, texas Southern University,I think they changed the name
to TSU.
Oh man, they.
Everything was set up First ofall.
I was like two years into thegame and I really didn quite
(10:23):
know the state of comedy, youknow, or the way it is.
And one I couldn't make mypeople laugh.
I couldn't make black peoplelaugh, because one thing I had
to figure out and like you know,I understand that I had to
figure out how to do that shit.
I just couldn't make blackpeople laugh.
But I was ready to give it theold college try.
You know what I'm saying.
So I went up there, I went tothis place.
(10:44):
First of all, the show wassupposed to be in the theater
and then we moved into thecapitorium.
So, yeah, not that many ticketsor so.
And so from the theater to thecapitorium, we were sitting
there, we were all some risers.
Now, before the show started,they had some lady little, two
cousins, come up there and startdancing and they were dancing
(11:06):
and she just walked out of theshow.
They were dancing and onceagain it was in the cafeteria
and the lights were on.
It was like it was like atalent show, like it looked like
a high school talent show.
It was real weird.
So it was me, my boy Blame, andthis other comic named Bo Peep,
and I went up there and I saidwhat's up, ts?
(11:33):
They shot me right off the bat.
They blew me.
At the beginning of the goddamn.
I said oh, oh, lord, um, yeah,so you know two of our people.
(12:04):
People, they gave me a chance.
They all stopped Like.
They all was like.
You know what he right?
And I used to have a joke backwhen I was a young kid why are
you writing dirty jokes?
And it was a joke that it wassupposed to.
(12:24):
Did you know the joke startsoff?
Did you know there's no actual?
Like if you didn't know any ofmy jokes, my jokes tend to go
here and then they go this wayand it's talking about something
that's not the other thingsometimes.
And I was like did you knowthere's no actual?
Did you know that there's noactual explanation for having an
erection while walking insideof a daycare?
It was an old, dirty joke.
(12:46):
Now, as a Black, I know thatshit's not going to fly amongst
our people.
We're not trying to hearanything else.
So walk inside of a day here.
What's up who?
Nobody screamed what and thenthey proceeded to boo me.
(13:11):
Less in learning than black andmaking black people laugh.
We really don't feel the fuckwith things like that.
But it's a good joke because itturns into a joke about Michael
Jackson.
It's a whole thing.
It turns into a joke aboutMichael Jackson.
It's a whole like thing.
But they weren't really aboutthe.
They weren't feeling that myboy after me comes up and makes
fun of me and I honestly justlike I didn't even want to get
(13:35):
paid.
I just wanted to get $8 becausegas was really cheap back then.
Cheap gas was like I think itwas like $1 to $2 back then.
So I was able to get my little$8 in my gas tank and take my
ass back home.
So you know, it's fine, I'mgood.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
You good, now I can do that now.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
Well, it comes with time.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
I hadn't had a boo moment.
But I said a joke at a bar.
It was a clean comedy show so Icouldn't cuss and I said follow
me at Christian Mingle, atAs-Salaam-Alaikum.
They didn't fuck with me.
(14:22):
After that I go back the nextweek and I just do this set that
I already didn't fuck with me.
After that I go back the nextweek and I just do this set that
I already didn't do.
Prior Lady is picking with me.
She was sitting at a bar.
We had a bar, so she's rightthere at the bar.
I'm sitting in the middle ofthe bar.
I was telling these jokes andthis lady just roasted me for
(14:45):
three weeks straight.
I ain't say nothing, man.
That fourth week I lit her assup.
They turned the music on me,they turned the lights off and
the microphone.
The gal was like you shouldn'thave done that.
I was like bro, she's beenpicking me for three weeks.
I know I messed up with theAs-salamu alaykum joke.
She didn't throw the chickenbone at me and everything.
(15:07):
I was like yep, I'm good Now ifI had a bomb.
I did have one.
It wasn't even a bomb, it wasjust some sense of what you're
saying about the dancing.
I had a guy come up theresinging R&B.
Never heard of him before.
Right Takes his shirt off, he'schest naked and got his V on
(15:31):
his waist showing and I'm likeman, what is going on Now?
You?
Speaker 2 (15:34):
got to tell jokes after that.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
Now I got to tell jokes after this.
He's telling everybody yo y'allabout to hear some new,
unreleased stuff.
I come up after him and saynobody knows who you are.
All your music is unreleasedand new.
I'm confused what we're doinghere.
I did not realize that 80% ofthe people there was his people.
(16:01):
After I got off the stage, twocomedians come up to me.
Man, you did good, bro, don'tworry about it.
Let me tell you something.
I ran to the car to get it.
I'm about to get my ass towedup.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
That was hilarious, that was hilarious.
See, it's shit like that.
That's why I like Santa likethat.
It's shit like that.
People don't know there'snothing funnier than a comedian
bombing, especially whensomebody doesn't know how to do
the shit.
Oh my God, I've had so manytimes Just having great times in
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the back of the club, justlaughing, not doing a good job,
what, what?
I don't want you to, I want youto kill, but if you die and I'm
dead, oh my god, my friend, weused to, we used to court in the
back.
Man, that's one thing I'm gonnamiss.
I can't do the hang.
(16:56):
I'm too old to hang.
I don't feel to hang.
You know, that's the shittypart about it.
I don't give a fuck about.
Like I mean, I'm seen it, I'vedone it all.
I'm married like it's.
Like I don't give a fuck aboutmy parents.
So like that's, like that'smostly like my problems with
that.
Like I have no purpose to hang,like without a purpose.
(17:20):
You know what I'm saying, youknow a purpose, you know what
I'm saying, you know.
So like that's the one thingabout coming.
Like I came here, like I came tolos angeles, like four years
ago.
I'm gonna find now I'm goingback, my biggest problem was
(17:44):
like, yeah, I was like I was outthere and I don't know what the
problem.
Right, just did a good set, Idid a great set.
I was hot.
I was like, yeah, man, and Iwent up to the bar.
I was like you know what I'mdoing?
I have a drink with thesefellow comedians, you know, or
whatever.
I was like I left my wallet inthe car.
You know, it's just two blocks.
I'm gonna go get my boy.
I went over there, opened mycar door and just sat down,
(18:07):
turned the car, drove away.
It was all one motion.
I said, oh shit, I was going theurge to hang In the beginning.
That's the fun part.
That's the funnest, because youhave your friends, you have
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your peers, you got the people.
That everybody's going to makeit and that's the beauty of the
thing is, the longer you do this, the better you get at it.
You can make a living in it.
You just got to understand whyit is.
What is your living going to be?
You know what I'm saying.
Like you're doing your podcastand stuff like that.
(18:53):
Like that's your way in theindustry.
Like you know probably, youknow I have to figure out how to
do this.
You know what I'm saying.
So.
I mean I do all this stuff likethat.
I try to, you know, get allthese like that Just so I can do
more stand-up, so yeah, sobasically everything that we do
(19:19):
should basically make you domore stand-up, that's all.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
That's it, Because the only reason the podcast came
is I had to lay through thechicken bone at me for saying
follow me at Christian Mingleand Asalaamu Alaikum.
That's the only.
I was like I don't think onthis comedy and that was like
two months into comedy I waslike I don't think this comedy,
shit gonna work.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
It's hard, it's very hard, man, it really is.
The longer you do it, thebetter you get at it.
But it's a marathon, it ain't asprint.
Nah, like I said, 24 years in,they finally had to move to LA.
The way I got the special was Iwas at a comedy festival and I
got this thing called Best inShow and the people from Comedy
(20:04):
on Devils were there and theywanted me to get it out.
They wanted me to make it out.
I said hey, if I produce itmyself, would you like to buy it
?
They're like we'll see.
So I did it and they wanted meto buy it.
And so you know it's up toessentially me to distribute it.
Don't distribute it, you knowwhat I'm saying.
(20:27):
But it's up to you to sell it,you know.
So you gotta figure out ways tosell it, figure out ways to get
access and seats.
It's a tool to get people towatch it and get people to go,
come out to your shows, andthat's all you need.
I've been doing it for so long.
I've toured with headliners,national headliners Carlos
(20:48):
Mencia, felipe Esparga, pabloFrancisco, all of his men.
I'll vote with him for what'shis name For Black-ish?
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Anthony Anderson.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Bianco, I'll vote for Bianco.
I mean, a lot of them have beenworking at the Atomic Club in
Houston, so they will all comethrough there.
I'll try to get on there.
What's the name?
Basically, basically, I don'tknow what it's called.
(21:26):
It was weird because whenwhat's it called?
When Jesus came, you weresitting and watching it in the
green room and he was eating hischicken and he was like you
know that shit?
And it was like dude, I'mwatching John Witherspoon.
(21:49):
Watch John Witherspoon, likethe shit is weird.
The shit is weird.
Ralphie May fucking been on histour bus.
You know what I'm saying.
I opened for him a couple times.
It's one of those things whereyou see, like it's, you go in
the business, you're doing abunch of stuff in your opening
(22:11):
and then now you just want yours, you want something for you and
I call it an ass scene on.
You know, I got an ass scene on.
Oh shit, he's on the specialvideo.
You can see him on this andthat and basically that's all.
You kind of need to actuallyget your foot in the door.
And on top of that, I'm goingto try.
(22:32):
Top of that, I'm trying to docruise ships and stuff like that
, because cruise ships it's nowOne of the guys I was talking to
they want more of us on cruiseships Because a lot of us, a lot
of Black people, are going oncruise ships.
Now that's a thing.
So they want to see more Blackcomedians and that's the thing
(22:53):
about being a black college youhave to learn how to do both
people.
You know what I'm saying.
You have to learn how to dowhite people.
You have to learn how to doblack people.
Black people are different, butit's honestly like I don't know
.
It's a better feeling.
I guess it's because I'm black,but it's a like I don't know.
(23:14):
It's a better feeling.
I guess it's because I'm black.
You know what I'm saying.
But it's a better feelinggetting them, but, like I don't
know, you have to know how to dothat.
No offense to white comics.
They can just post being them.
You know they can be them inthe same thing.
We have to basically learn howto do it.
It's essentially being a Blackperson in this country, you know
(23:35):
, coached.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
Well, we do, we do.
Yeah, black audiences man, yougot to fight in those rooms.
You got to fight literally Winthem over.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
My friends used to say, like them, it's with other
crowds, with mixed crowds,design, I can't get along.
Black crowds is making me laugh.
You need to make me laugh.
I've had a hard day out there.
I've been here.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
You gotta make me laugh yeah yeah, like, and you
know yeah black people, we don'tlaugh, we just go.
I got a joke.
I was like black people don'tlaugh, they just make a noise.
That's it, that's it okay, typeshit.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
Okay, that makes sense, I got my okay, type shit.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
I'm like, okay, that makes sense, it's rough.
It'd be rough.
White audiences they'll laughat you, man, and follow you and
want to buy you a drink.
Black guys you got to fight,you got to find some kind of
universal language or somethingto make them laugh.
But I found out, if you doobservational stuff in the
(24:56):
beginning, that you sit, don'ttalk about nobody saying they
got unreleased music and theyain't never heard of them,
you'll make it pretty far.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
It's one of the things where I mean, yeah, I
don't like when people say, uh,because like there'll be a lot
of companies like you, gottadumb it down.
It's not a dumbing down, I mean, it's just that you're relating
to somebody and in a differentway, and they have to understand
things a certain different way.
It's like we all, we're alldifferent and it's not, we're
(25:28):
not.
I hate you know the shit.
I hate.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
I had a man coming up here man.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
This man's real good, but you got to listen.
You got to listen to him.
Do the same shit you did to meone day.
I do.
I don't.
It's like I don't know.
It's a weird thing.
I don't like it.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
You have to listen.
I hate this one.
Coming to the stage Littlechicken foot pussy eater.
And they come out on the stage,suck my ass, lick my dick, fuck
you bitch.
I'm like, damn, I'm like wherethe jokes at.
Thank you very much, kiss myass and walk off the stage.
Coming to the stage Ron DavisWow.
(26:20):
Wow you done, pissed me.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
I'm not doing anything.
I don't know what the hell wasthat.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
I don't know what that guy is talking about.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
I pay my taxes.
Yeah, you just essentiallyreset the room, that's all it is
.
You sit there and you figure itout and just go.
Yeah, all right, I'm actuallysaying some words.
I don't know, I will cuss,cussing won't be in there.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
That's not all I do, that's not all I do, I wouldn't
Just going to ask this Was thecomedy scene on your side
affected after the Cat Williamsinterview?
Because a lot of people here inVirginia took the Cat Williams
interview and was like I canrelate to Cat and just went on a
whole smear campaign.
Was it the same way?
Speaker 2 (27:18):
By that time I'm out here.
I don't really listen to shitlike that.
We've been doing that forever.
The thing that kills me isthey've been trying to make it a
black comics thing.
It's like no white comics tomake it a black comics name and
it's like no white comics gotbeef too.
You know what I'm saying?
All these comics comedy is abunch of alphas.
(27:38):
I'm sorry, it's a bunch ofbabies trying to be alphas.
It really is.
It's a bunch of people.
It's the nerds, it's theweirdos, it's the people who are
cerebral, thinking in theirmind constantly all the time,
and then now they're the top guybecause we're kind of the
smartest people in the room.
You know, and you gave us aspotlight.
We all do that and it'sbasically the same shit.
(28:01):
The whole Pat Williams thingit's like there are weird people
in Hollywood and you can thinkof him.
He threw a fucking couple ballsand a couple of them hit this
motherfucker.
Ain't Nassau Dallas.
It is what it is.
People are weirdos.
(28:24):
I had a joke back in the daycalled and it was basically I'm
at a certain point in my agewhere I find out about heroes
and shit, like every singleperson that I believed in ain't
shit.
Hulk Hogan's a fucking racist.
The guy that tried to do this,the man I fucking.
I'm a fucking kid in the 80s.
(28:46):
I'm a black comedian who grewup in the 80s.
Cosby's my fucking hero, buthe's also a goddamn a black
comedian who grew up in the 80s.
Cosby's my fucking hero, buthe's also a goddamn monster.
You know what I'm saying.
You know what I'm saying.
He's one of the reasons why Iwent to college, but he's also a
monster.
(29:07):
It's weird.
You turn, turn the point I justdid.
You know?
Uh, uh, uh, what the what's hername?
Mother theresa.
She was a racist.
How about that?
Yeah, she would kill people andthings like that, and she
(29:28):
wasn't really good at her job.
She killed a lot of people.
A lot of people died underMother Teresa.
It is what it is, man.
Some shit happens.
It's a duality of human beings.
We got horrible people outthere.
We got bad people out there.
But I can't do eh, eh, eh, nomore, because this nigga got
baby oil.
I'm gonna listen to, like I'mnot into things, like I'm going
(29:52):
to the point where, when I hearthings about people, when
something happens and it's like,oh man, I enjoy this gentleman.
I just go with a little piece ofmy heart going please don't be
a monster later, but I'm still.
I'm still enjoying this.
You know, like R Kelly, we allknew but step in the name of
(30:16):
love is fire.
It's fire.
It's sad to have it, but that'sthe whole world.
We gotta stop.
I fucking hate Trump so fuckingmuch.
Right, and it just seems so.
(30:37):
But then their side accepts theshittiness of it.
Every single person on our sidehas got to be the purest thing
in the world, like we got to gothrough this world being
righteous.
Some people say sayingeverything's gotta be righteous.
No, sometimes people do badshit and sometimes they're
(30:58):
horrible.
You just gotta keep that shitmoving like that the whole.
Like like Pat was talking.
Like some of the shit that Patwas saying didn't come true.
Some of the shit he was sayingwasn't like you know didn't come
true.
Some of the shit he's sayingwasn't like you know didn't come
true.
Like the stuff with him andKevin Hart, like some of that
(31:23):
shit.
You know Kevin Hart's not aplayer.
That wasn't true.
You know what I'm saying.
He did shit in Philly Fuckinghim, and Craig Robinson used to
go to fucking New York timebefore.
That's a play, you know whatI'm saying.
He did shit in Philly Fuckinghim, and Craig Robinson used to
go to fucking New York.
That's a play, you know whatI'm saying.
He was going from fucking NewYork to Philly every fucking
night.
So I mean, like it's thingslike that where it's like, yeah,
(31:46):
he threw a couple balls, theyfucking hit.
Yeah, because people arehorrible, there are some
horrible people in the world andwe kind of knew, didn't we?
Yeah, he threw a couple balls,they fucking hit.
Yeah, because people arehorrible.
There's some horrible people inthe world and we kind of knew,
didn't we wasn't shit, you know,we kind of knew, like, what
else did he say?
What else was it?
Speaker 1 (32:02):
he said, uh, he was like, yeah, uh, steve harvey.
And this person held him backlike his gatekeeper is all.
And here you hear that sayingall the time and I just say,
like, bro, it's not the factthat you're not getting booked,
you're just not funny and youdon't have a personality that's
(32:23):
what it is.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
I wouldn't say he's not funny.
I think he is he's.
I think he's he's very funny,but he doesn't know how to use
the things that he needs to.
You know, I have a thing that Ican't tell.
I can't say about Camille isnot funny, it's just, it's just.
I think that, uh, I just thinkthey're not a couple of people.
(32:44):
A cat isn't the cup of tea ofcertain people.
There's certain people thatlove him and he's good.
Instead of fucking being inthat lane, you want all the
lanes.
That person's not funny.
That person's not funny.
That person you know what I'msaying that person had to do
this.
That person stopped me fromdoing this.
Sometimes, shit just don't workout.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
You don't.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
My boys always say even if it's personal, it's not
personal.
Show me the man.
That's it.
That's all it is.
I think Cat Williams is aperson that's extremely funny,
but he's not as funny as some ofthose guys that he named.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
I know Cat Williams is funny, but I'm saying the
comedians that come to me and belike yo.
I can't get booked here, theyhating on me.
I'd be like bro.
I know you said it's not yourcup of tea, but I'd be like yo.
It's literally like you're notfunny.
You got to tighten up your pingame and then it's your
personality Because, like youwere saying, everybody's
abatable wants to be alpha.
(33:52):
I say everybody wants to be a.
Everybody's abatable wants tobe alpha.
I say everybody wants to be abig shark in a small pond, like
Virginia is not known for comedyat all.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
Dave Chappelle Anshul , lanny Wanda Sykes, martin
Lawrence.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
That's there in the deep.
Wanda is Newport News.
I'll take her.
We got Wanda.
Coca Brown, Jay Pharoah,Leonard Oates, Martin Martin is
from Baltimore.
I'm in Virginia, so I mean.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
Yeah, my childhood was at Fairfax, fairfax,
virginia.
So like, yeah, I don't know, Ileft when I was in fifth grade.
Yeah, I don't.
It's one of those things whenit's like is bigger than your
(34:56):
town anywhere you stop.
Anyway, you can be in LosAngeles any New York City
there's a lot of time.
We got some heavy comedians inTexas.
In Houston we got some heavyguys in H-Town.
H-town is some strong comediansout there, you know, I
(35:18):
understand.
So you come on in with somebullshit.
We hope that you will do therest.
That's just the way.
It is the problem with Houston.
We like to push industry out.
We don't like industry.
We all have all types of shitwe can do on ourselves, which
isn't like you can do it, but ittakes too fucking long.
(35:39):
Then you got people that areoff to Austin to make shit now,
because you know that's whereall like the guys from LA went
out to Austin and it's you gotDave on it.
I've never really trustedAustin comic, you know.
Like I said, they not my cup oftea.
Uh, freaking Dallas guys.
(35:59):
Like I said they might walk upto you.
Frickin' Dallas guys, theDallas guys, san Antonio guys
there's some good guys inJackson.
It's cool being in your cityand it's cool, but you gotta get
good and get out.
You gotta get good, gosomewhere else.
You can always come back, comeback and come out.
But you gotta get good andsomewhere else you can always
come back, come back and comeout.
But you gotta get good and seewhat's out there in the street.
(36:22):
And that's not even likeleaving your town.
You gotta fucking tour.
You gotta get out, you gottaget out and shit.
The cool thing about fuckingbeing on those east coast cities
is you're like, real quick, youcan get in and out of every
motherfucker's like you knowwhat I'm saying real quick, I'll
be in car man.
Hit up open mics in differentcities.
(36:44):
Hit it up in baltimore.
Hit it up in fucking.
Like fucking whatever else isup there.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
I'm high been up there a few times, man baltimore
, dc, connecticut you got to hitthem all up, man, and that's
the whole thing.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
And one cool thing about Houston it's so widespread
, right, so you can hit aHispanic part of the city.
You can hit a white part of thecity.
You can hit the mixed area.
You can hit the weird eclecticpeople over here.
You can hit left-wing blackpeople over here.
So you can hit left with blackpeople over here.
So you can bounce around fromplaces in that city and it makes
you learn that you know there'sdifferent crowds.
(37:22):
So people from Milwaukee aregoing to be different than
people from Chicago Facts, butit is still Midwest Facts.
You know what I'm saying.
People from California aregoing to be different from
somebody from like what?
Arizona, but it's still overhere.
You know what I'm saying.
So like, yeah, you gotta movearound, get out of here.
(37:46):
Families are always bigger thana city.
You just gotta keep going.
What will make you laugh?
You do something over here.
These people are laughing atsomething else.
Keep them cultivated into.
Oh shit, I never thought aboutthat.
Laugh you know, it's just a we.
It's a weird thing and itsounds like, uh, gibberish.
(38:07):
You know what I'm saying, butit's like you're in another town
and they're laughing atsomething different and you know
why they're laughing and younever thought that was funny.
That was a funny one.
So now, like, a lot of my jokesare just a lot of emphasizing
on words, a lot of, like youknow, facial expressions and
(38:29):
like syllables and things likethat.
I realize that, but like so,like just doing that and making
how people feel it's gonna soundhorrible, but I'm not gonna
like the H guy, the bad guy.
In the 40s he used to practicethat.
(38:52):
He used to practice theinflection.
It's moving a crowd.
You're an MC.
You're moving the crowd.
The way you do your voice, thenotes that people sing, a thing
like that.
It's moving a crowd.
You're an MC.
You're moving the crowd the wayyou do your voice, the notes
that people sing.
When people sing, sometimesthat shiver in your body that
they're really good.
That's a thing.
You know what I'm saying?
That's a thing for humans.
So you can do things, you cansay something, you can emphasize
(39:18):
the words, you can tell thejoke a certain different way and
it moves other people and thenyou can learn that from places
to places and then it becomes apretty damn good joke All around
, jokes that everybody can kindof like you know, get it In
certain words you use, orwhatever.
But yeah, that's just comedy.
(39:38):
I love talking about comedy.
Speaker 1 (39:41):
You alright, you okay , you okay, you okay.
So I'm going to say this righthere because we're going to end
off.
You gave a lot of gems abouteverything that you've done,
your take on comedy and your 24years of experience with a
(40:02):
comedy special and acting andfinding different lanes.
What is you okay?
Okay?
I said, don't down me because Iain't got health insurance.
What is that?
Speaker 2 (40:30):
one piece of motivational advice you can give
for any comedian or anycreative looking to get into the
industry.
Show up.
80% of this is what you do offstage.
40% is off stage.
Show up be way more likablethan you are off stage being in
the room.
You know what I'm saying.
(40:51):
Like, if there's a reason why Ilove being there, show up going
up to the mics.
If there's a reason why I'mbeing there, show up, going up
to the mics.
Fucking sucks.
Really hate doing it.
May not go through it, but it'sa mic.
(41:12):
Show the fuck up.
You don't know what's going tobe there, right?
You don't know what you'regoing to get that night.
If something's going on overthere, show the fuck up.
You know it's just what was it?
Luck is, when preparation meetsopportunity, mm-hmm.
You need to prepare for theopportunity.
(41:32):
Stay ready, so you ain't got toget ready.
Show the fuck up.
I mean a lot of it was just Befunny.
Stay ready, so you ain't got toget ready.
Show the fuck up.
I mean a lot of it was just youknow, be funny.
Be funny, by all means.
You can have.
But the thing is, in thisbusiness, man, you can have a C
plus likability and an A plusmaterial and nobody gonna want
(41:56):
to get you off.
You'll be as arrogant as funny.
You'll be a funny, arrogantmotherfucker.
But if they're not likable andhere's a couple things If you're
not likable and your materials,if you're likable and your
materials, c plus, they're gonnamove because the people like
(42:21):
you, they want to give you stuff, they want you to succeed.
You must be likable and a lotof that is showing up and just
being a part of the game.
None of it is personal, evenwhen it gets personal when
somebody looks at you and saysdon't come to this motherfucker
ever again.
Keep coming, come on.
(42:44):
It's just me.
Speaker 1 (42:49):
Sure, yeah, I say the same sentiment.
Yeah, if they want to get incontact with you, watch the
special support you, where canthey find you at?
Speaker 2 (43:03):
I'm at Theodore Comedy on everything.
Theodore Comedy it's going tobe the website.
You can have a link treeTheodore Comedy on my link tree.
You can go to the comedydynamics page.
Type in me.
My name is Theodore ME Taylor.
The comedy special is TheodoreME Taylor's Belltie Guy.
(43:24):
That's good, it's just a goodname.
But yeah, I'm Theodore Comedyon everything.
I don't have Twitter anymorebecause fuck that guy.
And I've had Instagram,facebook.
(43:47):
I'm on Twitter, I'm on TikTokas well as Facebook and that's
it.
Speaker 1 (43:57):
And if you guys want to follow me as Comedian Rome
Davis, follow the podcast page.
There's no ID podcast, butYouTube is Comedian Rome Davis,
no ID.
You can Google it, you can typeit into any type of platform,
but I also have an email list.
You can sign up and let youknow any type of shows, releases
, podcasts, episodes, youtubeupdates.
(44:19):
I can get you.
But support my man, theodoreTaylor, please, with his special
and any of his content and hisshows.
Keep supporting me and thismovement that I'm trying to
create and I appreciate you,theodore, for coming on to the
show I know it was a random.
DM hey man, you know, myalgorithm is nothing but comedy
(44:41):
and twerking and you ended up onthe comedy I got you.
It was one video and one bottleyou know what I mean, you know
what I mean.
Speaker 2 (44:52):
I happen to do comedy too.
Speaker 1 (44:57):
We support you anyway over here, you know what?
I'm saying Thank you, man.
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to another episode
of the no ID Podcast.
I got here.
This man has a special out.
It's available everywhereexcept for Tubi, so I'm just
kidding the Bulldog guy,comedian, host, producer,
creative, I would say up andcoming, but he's already coming.
(00:25):
Pause, uh, the one and onlytheodore taylor.
How you doing today?
Speaker 2 (00:31):
I'm doing y'all how you doing everybody out there
man, we're doing good brother solet's go ahead and get into it.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
Okay, both, bowtie guy, your comedy special.
How did you come up with thename and what is a?
Speaker 2 (00:47):
bowtie guy.
I mean, I was doing comedy foryears and I'm a nerd as well, so
I don't know if you heard ofthis show called Doctor who,
mm-hmm.
Yeah, there's a gentleman underthe name Sam Smith.
He was one of the doctors andhe said bowties are cool.
I one day was like no, they are.
And I decided to wear it at ashow at the comic club I was
(01:07):
working at at the time.
I used to work in HoustonImprov, where basically all the
comics went and they would putme on or whatever.
And I decided to go off thatweekend with a bow tie and
people started liking it and Ijust started doing it.
It means absolutely nothing.
It just means you're just goingto see a dude in a bow tie
doing it.
It means absolutely nothing.
It just means you're just goingto see a dude in a bow tie.
(01:27):
When you watch it, you're goingto be like is this motherfucker
going to do bow tie jumps?
No, I'm not.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
I just got a bow tie on.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
She got a bow tie on.
The whole special is hilarious.
Ain't got shit to do with bowtie, but hey, it's's like.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
One of the things that I do is a niche that I have
.
It allows me to like when I wascoming up man.
I've been doing this since Iwas 18.
I'm 42 years old.
When you're going up as a blackcomedian, they sort of label
you as blue, they label you as ablue collar, they label you as
a dirty collar.
It don't matter.
I mean it don't matter becauseyou're old and whatever.
(02:10):
They still call you dirty.
I did this show in spring Texasone time and what they did
before me was being racist andwhat they did after me was
saying dirty jokes.
I was just doing regular malejokes, regular male cousin, you
know.
And she, this white lady, saidyou know, I like it, but I don't
like the vulgarity.
(02:31):
I was like, oh my vulgarity,just mine, okay, yeah.
And she just stayed on thereand kept on going.
I don't like the vulgarity.
And I was like are you talkingabout the black vulgarity dog
already?
What the fuck are you talkingabout?
Like what is going on.
So it also allows me to saydirty jokes and dress well while
(02:51):
I'm on stage.
So you don't really actuallysee it coming.
It's all just somepsychological hit that allows
you to put a button up on peopleand allow you to say whatever
the hell you want to say, and Idon't have to wear a three-ste
Steve Harvey suit.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Oh yeah, we ain't wearing no Steve Harvey suit.
Well, shout out to Steve.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
That's a little bit of a dress, but you know, that's
just not for me.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
You know, I can relate somewhat, because when I
first started stand-up I wasdoing like the Nike joggers with
the graphic t-shirts fromTarget, and then something
clicked.
I was like man, let me go aheadand just switch up a little bit
and start doing the button-ups,the jeans and the cardigans,
and I was like everything justflowed a little bit better.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
For some reason they allow you to say whatever the
hell you want to and don't thinkthat you're vulgar.
And you're not even beingvulgar.
You talk to a nightclub settingas a nightclub theme.
I understand why your brainwon't switch.
You're a grown-up with sellingalcohol and also the time where
(04:00):
I came up there I came up wasn'tas free as the words they are
now.
Everybody always talks aboutthis like is comedy being too
sensual?
Is it so sensual?
No, not really.
Like you can say a lot moreshit that you can say that you
couldn't do back then.
A lot more than you can do.
(04:21):
You've got to be a lot moreclever with it, a lot more than
you.
You just got to be a lot moreclever with it.
So like I just like.
It was really hard because Ialso, at the time when I was
coming out, there was ablue-collar comedy shit was
going on.
So you had a bunch of like.
You had to like because I grewup in the South.
You know, I'm from the South andI'm like I started out.
I started my stock comedy inHouston, texas.
You know it was toward theMidwest and stuff like that.
(04:43):
And then you sit there, you dothat stuff and people always,
for some reason, they want Idon't know why you left your job
, you left the regular world tocome into the nightclub world.
Just switch your brain.
You know it allows you toswitch your brain a little bit
more.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Facts yeah, you gotta be clever, because I know the
open mic scene.
Well, I'm in virginia, the openmic scene.
Here you just hear some peoplejust say some of the most
derogatory shit.
I'm like yo be a little bitmore clever and punch it up a
little bit to the point that youdon't understand.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Yeah I mean you just it's all rising.
You just can't go out therejust calling people the f?
Slur.
You know.
You know what I'm saying.
Like I'm not going to do it.
You know what I'm saying.
You can't go out there and becalled the F-slar.
You know what I'm saying.
Be smarter, like what era do welive in?
On top of that, like it's beingprofessional as well.
You got to know when I'm goingup there and this is the type of
(05:40):
audience I have, so I need toknow how to freaking cater.
I always say that's when itbecomes work.
It's just when you can, whenyou do whatever you want.
But if somebody's paying you todo a certain thing, it becomes
work at that time.
But it is, it's a job, it's acareer, you know.
(06:02):
You know what it is.
It's a job, it's a career, youknow.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
You know Definitely man and you started 18, so
you're like 24 years in the game.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Yeah, man, yeah, and I just got my special.
So you know, it worked.
It worked, Does it come true?
Nah, yeah, man, I started 18years old.
I was in theater.
I was in high school.
I started at 18 years old.
I was in theater, I was in highschool.
I mean, I basically switchedbeing from the theater to go to
(06:31):
doing stand-up.
I mean, like I was in college.
I mean I was part of a companyand I just called the mom.
I was like, let me see how thisworks, let's see how this works
.
And you know, like being anactor sitting in the door, I'm
like the immediate laughter.
I just kept on looking at thestuff that I did, Like I would
(06:54):
look at my like all the playsthat I've done, you know.
And then you just go well, Imean that's good, but nobody
knows I'm done.
There's no way to like capturethis.
There's no way to be likecapture this.
There's no way to be like tomake this your own.
You know there's a millionmillion guys that are just as
talented as me.
You know, just as you know, Iguess you know just as good as
(07:18):
me.
There's not many people asfunny as me or funny like me,
you know, so like it was aneasier route to go that I could
do it.
You know, so, like it was aneasier route to go that I could
do it.
You know, and that's anotherthing you gotta, you gotta know
if you can do it.
You know what I'm saying.
It's like it's kind of who'sgonna go out there and they do
(07:40):
the shit and it's like, oh, thisis fun, oh, this is fun.
Well, my dude, and they do thisshit and it's like, oh, this is
fun, oh, this is fun.
But, my dude, it's been yearsand you're not going nowhere.
Bro, you sold open mic scene,you're not.
You know what I'm saying you, Imean like Chris Rock saying you
know you say something and, uh,nobody laughs.
That's a sentence, it's not ajoke.
So, like you gotta, I mean bereal with yourself.
(08:03):
I call this the honest element.
Man, it's In any part of, like,the entertainment genre.
If you're an actor, you're adancer, you know.
Like you're a musician, Like itused to be, you can, you can
sing.
If you can sing, you can sing.
You know, now they have likeyou know you can tweet.
You have to tweak it.
Now they have a.
You know what's the teeth ain'tstuff they didn't use and you
(08:25):
know you can tweak.
You have to tweak it.
Now they have the.
You know the what's the T-Painstuff they be using.
You know what I'm saying Voicemodulators and stuff like that.
If you're an actor, you surroundpeople.
I noticed this when I was doinga deal.
It was a bunch of actors thatwere on the main stage of my
college and they weren't good.
But in that era, in that likeenvironment, In that era, in
that environment, they learn thepopularity contest the same way
that you can do it in Hollywood.
(08:47):
You have something that theywant and they start pushing you.
You don't have to be good at it, Just people around you say
you're good.
Same thing with music.
Same thing with that.
It's something about.
It's like dancing and comedy.
Either you can dance or youcan't.
(09:07):
I can see what you're doingright now.
You're not getting the stepsright.
You know what I'm saying.
Same thing with comedy.
I can see what you're doingright now.
You're not making them laugh.
The hottest element is thelaughing.
If they're not laughing, it'snot good.
And if you can probably weigh aniche in any way in this
(09:28):
business, if you make them laugh, that's the bottom line.
But you got to be honest withyourself.
Are you making them laugh, oris that fair to laugh at?
And I'm not the type of personto tell people not to do it,
because that same feeling youget is the same feeling I get.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
You're not shitting yourself, buddy you remember
your first time not getting agood crowd reaction, your first
bomb?
How did you come back from that?
Speaker 2 (10:00):
my first bomb, I remember my biggest bomb was I
was actually thinking about thisshit the other day was I was at
TSU, texas Southern University,I think they changed the name
to TSU.
Oh man, they.
Everything was set up First ofall.
I was like two years into thegame and I really didn quite
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know the state of comedy, youknow, or the way it is.
And one I couldn't make mypeople laugh.
I couldn't make black peoplelaugh, because one thing I had
to figure out and like you know,I understand that I had to
figure out how to do that shit.
I just couldn't make blackpeople laugh.
But I was ready to give it theold college try.
You know what I'm saying.
So I went up there, I went tothis place.
(10:44):
First of all, the show wassupposed to be in the theater
and then we moved into thecapitorium.
So, yeah, not that many ticketsor so.
And so from the theater to thecapitorium, we were sitting
there, we were all some risers.
Now, before the show started,they had some lady little, two
cousins, come up there and startdancing and they were dancing
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and she just walked out of theshow.
They were dancing and onceagain it was in the cafeteria
and the lights were on.
It was like it was like atalent show, like it looked like
a high school talent show.
It was real weird.
So it was me, my boy Blame, andthis other comic named Bo Peep,
and I went up there and I saidwhat's up, ts?
(11:33):
They shot me right off the bat.
They blew me.
At the beginning of the goddamn.
I said oh, oh, lord, um, yeah,so you know two of our people.
(12:04):
People, they gave me a chance.
They all stopped Like.
They all was like.
You know what he right?
And I used to have a joke backwhen I was a young kid why are
you writing dirty jokes?
And it was a joke that it wassupposed to.
(12:24):
Did you know the joke startsoff?
Did you know there's no actual?
Like if you didn't know any ofmy jokes, my jokes tend to go
here and then they go this wayand it's talking about something
that's not the other thingsometimes.
And I was like did you knowthere's no actual?
Did you know that there's noactual explanation for having an
erection while walking insideof a daycare?
It was an old, dirty joke.
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Now, as a Black, I know thatshit's not going to fly amongst
our people.
We're not trying to hearanything else.
So walk inside of a day here.
What's up who?
Nobody screamed what and thenthey proceeded to boo me.
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Less in learning than black andmaking black people laugh.
We really don't feel the fuckwith things like that.
But it's a good joke because itturns into a joke about Michael
Jackson.
It's a whole thing.
It turns into a joke aboutMichael Jackson.
It's a whole like thing.
But they weren't really aboutthe.
They weren't feeling that myboy after me comes up and makes
fun of me and I honestly justlike I didn't even want to get
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paid.
I just wanted to get $8 becausegas was really cheap back then.
Cheap gas was like I think itwas like $1 to $2 back then.
So I was able to get my little$8 in my gas tank and take my
ass back home.
So you know, it's fine, I'mgood.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
You good, now I can do that now.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
Well, it comes with time.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
I hadn't had a boo moment.
But I said a joke at a bar.
It was a clean comedy show so Icouldn't cuss and I said follow
me at Christian Mingle, atAs-Salaam-Alaikum.
They didn't fuck with me.
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After that I go back the nextweek and I just do this set that
I already didn't fuck with me.
After that I go back the nextweek and I just do this set that
I already didn't do.
Prior Lady is picking with me.
She was sitting at a bar.
We had a bar, so she's rightthere at the bar.
I'm sitting in the middle ofthe bar.
I was telling these jokes andthis lady just roasted me for
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three weeks straight.
I ain't say nothing, man.
That fourth week I lit her assup.
They turned the music on me,they turned the lights off and
the microphone.
The gal was like you shouldn'thave done that.
I was like bro, she's beenpicking me for three weeks.
I know I messed up with theAs-salamu alaykum joke.
She didn't throw the chickenbone at me and everything.
(15:07):
I was like yep, I'm good Now ifI had a bomb.
I did have one.
It wasn't even a bomb, it wasjust some sense of what you're
saying about the dancing.
I had a guy come up theresinging R&B.
Never heard of him before.
Right Takes his shirt off, he'schest naked and got his V on
(15:31):
his waist showing and I'm likeman, what is going on Now?
You?
Speaker 2 (15:34):
got to tell jokes after that.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
Now I got to tell jokes after this.
He's telling everybody yo y'allabout to hear some new,
unreleased stuff.
I come up after him and saynobody knows who you are.
All your music is unreleasedand new.
I'm confused what we're doinghere.
I did not realize that 80% ofthe people there was his people.
(16:01):
After I got off the stage, twocomedians come up to me.
Man, you did good, bro, don'tworry about it.
Let me tell you something.
I ran to the car to get it.
I'm about to get my ass towedup.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
That was hilarious, that was hilarious.
See, it's shit like that.
That's why I like Santa likethat.
It's shit like that.
People don't know there'snothing funnier than a comedian
bombing, especially whensomebody doesn't know how to do
the shit.
Oh my God, I've had so manytimes Just having great times in
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the back of the club, justlaughing, not doing a good job,
what, what?
I don't want you to, I want youto kill, but if you die and I'm
dead, oh my god, my friend, weused to, we used to court in the
back.
Man, that's one thing I'm gonnamiss.
I can't do the hang.
(16:56):
I'm too old to hang.
I don't feel to hang.
You know, that's the shittypart about it.
I don't give a fuck about.
Like I mean, I'm seen it, I'vedone it all.
I'm married like it's.
Like I don't give a fuck aboutmy parents.
So like that's, like that'smostly like my problems with
that.
Like I have no purpose to hang,like without a purpose.
(17:20):
You know what I'm saying, youknow a purpose, you know what
I'm saying, you know.
So like that's the one thingabout coming.
Like I came here, like I came tolos angeles, like four years
ago.
I'm gonna find now I'm goingback, my biggest problem was
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like, yeah, I was like I was outthere and I don't know what the
problem.
Right, just did a good set, Idid a great set.
I was hot.
I was like, yeah, man, and Iwent up to the bar.
I was like you know what I'mdoing?
I have a drink with thesefellow comedians, you know, or
whatever.
I was like I left my wallet inthe car.
You know, it's just two blocks.
I'm gonna go get my boy.
I went over there, opened mycar door and just sat down,
(18:07):
turned the car, drove away.
It was all one motion.
I said, oh shit, I was going theurge to hang In the beginning.
That's the fun part.
That's the funnest, because youhave your friends, you have
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your peers, you got the people.
That everybody's going to makeit and that's the beauty of the
thing is, the longer you do this, the better you get at it.
You can make a living in it.
You just got to understand whyit is.
What is your living going to be?
You know what I'm saying.
Like you're doing your podcastand stuff like that.
(18:53):
Like that's your way in theindustry.
Like you know probably, youknow I have to figure out how to
do this.
You know what I'm saying.
So.
I mean I do all this stuff likethat.
I try to, you know, get allthese like that Just so I can do
more stand-up, so yeah, sobasically everything that we do
(19:19):
should basically make you domore stand-up, that's all.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
That's it, Because the only reason the podcast came
is I had to lay through thechicken bone at me for saying
follow me at Christian Mingleand Asalaamu Alaikum.
That's the only.
I was like I don't think onthis comedy and that was like
two months into comedy I waslike I don't think this comedy,
shit gonna work.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
It's hard, it's very hard, man, it really is.
The longer you do it, thebetter you get at it.
But it's a marathon, it ain't asprint.
Nah, like I said, 24 years in,they finally had to move to LA.
The way I got the special was Iwas at a comedy festival and I
got this thing called Best inShow and the people from Comedy
(20:04):
on Devils were there and theywanted me to get it out.
They wanted me to make it out.
I said hey, if I produce itmyself, would you like to buy it
?
They're like we'll see.
So I did it and they wanted meto buy it.
And so you know it's up toessentially me to distribute it.
Don't distribute it, you knowwhat I'm saying.
(20:27):
But it's up to you to sell it,you know.
So you gotta figure out ways tosell it, figure out ways to get
access and seats.
It's a tool to get people towatch it and get people to go,
come out to your shows, andthat's all you need.
I've been doing it for so long.
I've toured with headliners,national headliners Carlos
(20:48):
Mencia, felipe Esparga, pabloFrancisco, all of his men.
I'll vote with him for what'shis name For Black-ish?
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Anthony Anderson.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Bianco, I'll vote for Bianco.
I mean, a lot of them have beenworking at the Atomic Club in
Houston, so they will all comethrough there.
I'll try to get on there.
What's the name?
Basically, basically, I don'tknow what it's called.
(21:26):
It was weird because whenwhat's it called?
When Jesus came, you weresitting and watching it in the
green room and he was eating hischicken and he was like you
know that shit?
And it was like dude, I'mwatching John Witherspoon.
(21:49):
Watch John Witherspoon, likethe shit is weird.
The shit is weird.
Ralphie May fucking been on histour bus.
You know what I'm saying.
I opened for him a couple times.
It's one of those things whereyou see, like it's, you go in
the business, you're doing abunch of stuff in your opening
(22:11):
and then now you just want yours, you want something for you and
I call it an ass scene on.
You know, I got an ass scene on.
Oh shit, he's on the specialvideo.
You can see him on this andthat and basically that's all.
You kind of need to actuallyget your foot in the door.
And on top of that, I'm goingto try.
(22:32):
Top of that, I'm trying to docruise ships and stuff like that
, because cruise ships it's nowOne of the guys I was talking to
they want more of us on cruiseships Because a lot of us, a lot
of Black people, are going oncruise ships.
Now that's a thing.
So they want to see more Blackcomedians and that's the thing
(22:53):
about being a black college youhave to learn how to do both
people.
You know what I'm saying.
You have to learn how to dowhite people.
You have to learn how to doblack people.
Black people are different, butit's honestly like I don't know
.
It's a better feeling.
I guess it's because I'm black,but it's a like I don't know.
(23:14):
It's a better feeling.
I guess it's because I'm black.
You know what I'm saying.
But it's a better feelinggetting them, but, like I don't
know, you have to know how to dothat.
No offense to white comics.
They can just post being them.
You know they can be them inthe same thing.
We have to basically learn howto do it.
It's essentially being a Blackperson in this country, you know
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, coached.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
Well, we do, we do.
Yeah, black audiences man, yougot to fight in those rooms.
You got to fight literally Winthem over.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
My friends used to say, like them, it's with other
crowds, with mixed crowds,design, I can't get along.
Black crowds is making me laugh.
You need to make me laugh.
I've had a hard day out there.
I've been here.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
You gotta make me laugh yeah yeah, like, and you
know yeah black people, we don'tlaugh, we just go.
I got a joke.
I was like black people don'tlaugh, they just make a noise.
That's it, that's it okay, typeshit.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
Okay, that makes sense, I got my okay, type shit.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
I'm like, okay, that makes sense, it's rough.
It'd be rough.
White audiences they'll laughat you, man, and follow you and
want to buy you a drink.
Black guys you got to fight,you got to find some kind of
universal language or somethingto make them laugh.
But I found out, if you doobservational stuff in the
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beginning, that you sit, don'ttalk about nobody saying they
got unreleased music and theyain't never heard of them,
you'll make it pretty far.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
It's one of the things where I mean, yeah, I
don't like when people say, uh,because like there'll be a lot
of companies like you, gottadumb it down.
It's not a dumbing down, I mean, it's just that you're relating
to somebody and in a differentway, and they have to understand
things a certain different way.
It's like we all, we're alldifferent and it's not, we're
(25:28):
not.
I hate you know the shit.
I hate.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
I had a man coming up here man.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
This man's real good, but you got to listen.
You got to listen to him.
Do the same shit you did to meone day.
I do.
I don't.
It's like I don't know.
It's a weird thing.
I don't like it.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
You have to listen.
I hate this one.
Coming to the stage Littlechicken foot pussy eater.
And they come out on the stage,suck my ass, lick my dick, fuck
you bitch.
I'm like, damn, I'm like wherethe jokes at.
Thank you very much, kiss myass and walk off the stage.
Coming to the stage Ron DavisWow.
(26:20):
Wow you done, pissed me.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
I'm not doing anything.
I don't know what the hell wasthat.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
I don't know what that guy is talking about.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
I pay my taxes.
Yeah, you just essentiallyreset the room, that's all it is
.
You sit there and you figure itout and just go.
Yeah, all right, I'm actuallysaying some words.
I don't know, I will cuss,cussing won't be in there.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
That's not all I do, that's not all I do, I wouldn't
Just going to ask this Was thecomedy scene on your side
affected after the Cat Williamsinterview?
Because a lot of people here inVirginia took the Cat Williams
interview and was like I canrelate to Cat and just went on a
whole smear campaign.
Was it the same way?
Speaker 2 (27:18):
By that time I'm out here.
I don't really listen to shitlike that.
We've been doing that forever.
The thing that kills me isthey've been trying to make it a
black comics thing.
It's like no white comics tomake it a black comics name and
it's like no white comics gotbeef too.
You know what I'm saying?
All these comics comedy is abunch of alphas.
(27:38):
I'm sorry, it's a bunch ofbabies trying to be alphas.
It really is.
It's a bunch of people.
It's the nerds, it's theweirdos, it's the people who are
cerebral, thinking in theirmind constantly all the time,
and then now they're the top guybecause we're kind of the
smartest people in the room.
You know, and you gave us aspotlight.
We all do that and it'sbasically the same shit.
(28:01):
The whole Pat Williams thingit's like there are weird people
in Hollywood and you can thinkof him.
He threw a fucking couple ballsand a couple of them hit this
motherfucker.
Ain't Nassau Dallas.
It is what it is.
People are weirdos.
(28:24):
I had a joke back in the daycalled and it was basically I'm
at a certain point in my agewhere I find out about heroes
and shit, like every singleperson that I believed in ain't
shit.
Hulk Hogan's a fucking racist.
The guy that tried to do this,the man I fucking.
I'm a fucking kid in the 80s.
(28:46):
I'm a black comedian who grewup in the 80s.
Cosby's my fucking hero, buthe's also a goddamn a black
comedian who grew up in the 80s.
Cosby's my fucking hero, buthe's also a goddamn monster.
You know what I'm saying.
You know what I'm saying.
He's one of the reasons why Iwent to college, but he's also a
monster.
(29:07):
It's weird.
You turn, turn the point I justdid.
You know?
Uh, uh, uh, what the what's hername?
Mother theresa.
She was a racist.
How about that?
Yeah, she would kill people andthings like that, and she
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wasn't really good at her job.
She killed a lot of people.
A lot of people died underMother Teresa.
It is what it is, man.
Some shit happens.
It's a duality of human beings.
We got horrible people outthere.
We got bad people out there.
But I can't do eh, eh, eh, nomore, because this nigga got
baby oil.
I'm gonna listen to, like I'mnot into things, like I'm going
(29:52):
to the point where, when I hearthings about people, when
something happens and it's like,oh man, I enjoy this gentleman.
I just go with a little piece ofmy heart going please don't be
a monster later, but I'm still.
I'm still enjoying this.
You know, like R Kelly, we allknew but step in the name of
(30:16):
love is fire.
It's fire.
It's sad to have it, but that'sthe whole world.
We gotta stop.
I fucking hate Trump so fuckingmuch.
Right, and it just seems so.
(30:37):
But then their side accepts theshittiness of it.
Every single person on our sidehas got to be the purest thing
in the world, like we got to gothrough this world being
righteous.
Some people say sayingeverything's gotta be righteous.
No, sometimes people do badshit and sometimes they're
(30:58):
horrible.
You just gotta keep that shitmoving like that the whole.
Like like Pat was talking.
Like some of the shit that Patwas saying didn't come true.
Some of the shit he was sayingwasn't like you know didn't come
true.
Some of the shit he's sayingwasn't like you know didn't come
true.
Like the stuff with him andKevin Hart, like some of that
(31:23):
shit.
You know Kevin Hart's not aplayer.
That wasn't true.
You know what I'm saying.
He did shit in Philly Fuckinghim, and Craig Robinson used to
go to fucking New York timebefore.
That's a play, you know whatI'm saying.
He did shit in Philly Fuckinghim, and Craig Robinson used to
go to fucking New York.
That's a play, you know whatI'm saying.
He was going from fucking NewYork to Philly every fucking
night.
So I mean, like it's thingslike that where it's like, yeah,
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he threw a couple balls, theyfucking hit.
Yeah, because people arehorrible, there are some
horrible people in the world andwe kind of knew, didn't we?
Yeah, he threw a couple balls,they fucking hit.
Yeah, because people arehorrible.
There's some horrible people inthe world and we kind of knew,
didn't we wasn't shit, you know,we kind of knew, like, what
else did he say?
What else was it?
Speaker 1 (32:02):
he said, uh, he was like, yeah, uh, steve harvey.
And this person held him backlike his gatekeeper is all.
And here you hear that sayingall the time and I just say,
like, bro, it's not the factthat you're not getting booked,
you're just not funny and youdon't have a personality that's
(32:23):
what it is.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
I wouldn't say he's not funny.
I think he is he's.
I think he's he's very funny,but he doesn't know how to use
the things that he needs to.
You know, I have a thing that Ican't tell.
I can't say about Camille isnot funny, it's just, it's just.
I think that, uh, I just thinkthey're not a couple of people.
(32:44):
A cat isn't the cup of tea ofcertain people.
There's certain people thatlove him and he's good.
Instead of fucking being inthat lane, you want all the
lanes.
That person's not funny.
That person's not funny.
That person you know what I'msaying that person had to do
this.
That person stopped me fromdoing this.
Sometimes, shit just don't workout.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
You don't.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
My boys always say even if it's personal, it's not
personal.
Show me the man.
That's it.
That's all it is.
I think Cat Williams is aperson that's extremely funny,
but he's not as funny as some ofthose guys that he named.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
I know Cat Williams is funny, but I'm saying the
comedians that come to me and belike yo.
I can't get booked here, theyhating on me.
I'd be like bro.
I know you said it's not yourcup of tea, but I'd be like yo.
It's literally like you're notfunny.
You got to tighten up your pingame and then it's your
personality Because, like youwere saying, everybody's
abatable wants to be alpha.
(33:52):
I say everybody wants to be a.
Everybody's abatable wants tobe alpha.
I say everybody wants to be abig shark in a small pond, like
Virginia is not known for comedyat all.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
Dave Chappelle Anshul , lanny Wanda Sykes, martin
Lawrence.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
That's there in the deep.
Wanda is Newport News.
I'll take her.
We got Wanda.
Coca Brown, Jay Pharoah,Leonard Oates, Martin Martin is
from Baltimore.
I'm in Virginia, so I mean.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
Yeah, my childhood was at Fairfax, fairfax,
virginia.
So like, yeah, I don't know, Ileft when I was in fifth grade.
Yeah, I don't.
It's one of those things whenit's like is bigger than your
(34:56):
town anywhere you stop.
Anyway, you can be in LosAngeles any New York City
there's a lot of time.
We got some heavy comedians inTexas.
In Houston we got some heavyguys in H-Town.
H-town is some strong comediansout there, you know, I
(35:18):
understand.
So you come on in with somebullshit.
We hope that you will do therest.
That's just the way.
It is the problem with Houston.
We like to push industry out.
We don't like industry.
We all have all types of shitwe can do on ourselves, which
isn't like you can do it, but ittakes too fucking long.
(35:39):
Then you got people that areoff to Austin to make shit now,
because you know that's whereall like the guys from LA went
out to Austin and it's you gotDave on it.
I've never really trustedAustin comic, you know.
Like I said, they not my cup oftea.
Uh, freaking Dallas guys.
(35:59):
Like I said they might walk upto you.
Frickin' Dallas guys, theDallas guys, san Antonio guys
there's some good guys inJackson.
It's cool being in your cityand it's cool, but you gotta get
good and get out.
You gotta get good, gosomewhere else.
You can always come back, comeback and come out.
But you gotta get good andsomewhere else you can always
come back, come back and comeout.
But you gotta get good and seewhat's out there in the street.
(36:22):
And that's not even likeleaving your town.
You gotta fucking tour.
You gotta get out, you gottaget out and shit.
The cool thing about fuckingbeing on those east coast cities
is you're like, real quick, youcan get in and out of every
motherfucker's like you knowwhat I'm saying real quick, I'll
be in car man.
Hit up open mics in differentcities.
(36:44):
Hit it up in baltimore.
Hit it up in fucking.
Like fucking whatever else isup there.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
I'm high been up there a few times, man baltimore
, dc, connecticut you got to hitthem all up, man, and that's
the whole thing.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
And one cool thing about Houston it's so widespread
, right, so you can hit aHispanic part of the city.
You can hit a white part of thecity.
You can hit the mixed area.
You can hit the weird eclecticpeople over here.
You can hit left-wing blackpeople over here.
So you can hit left with blackpeople over here.
So you can bounce around fromplaces in that city and it makes
you learn that you know there'sdifferent crowds.
(37:22):
So people from Milwaukee aregoing to be different than
people from Chicago Facts, butit is still Midwest Facts.
You know what I'm saying.
People from California aregoing to be different from
somebody from like what?
Arizona, but it's still overhere.
You know what I'm saying.
So like, yeah, you gotta movearound, get out of here.
(37:46):
Families are always bigger thana city.
You just gotta keep going.
What will make you laugh?
You do something over here.
These people are laughing atsomething else.
Keep them cultivated into.
Oh shit, I never thought aboutthat.
Laugh you know, it's just a we.
It's a weird thing and itsounds like, uh, gibberish.
(38:07):
You know what I'm saying, butit's like you're in another town
and they're laughing atsomething different and you know
why they're laughing and younever thought that was funny.
That was a funny one.
So now, like, a lot of my jokesare just a lot of emphasizing
on words, a lot of, like youknow, facial expressions and
(38:29):
like syllables and things likethat.
I realize that, but like so,like just doing that and making
how people feel it's gonna soundhorrible, but I'm not gonna
like the H guy, the bad guy.
In the 40s he used to practicethat.
(38:52):
He used to practice theinflection.
It's moving a crowd.
You're an MC.
You're moving the crowd.
The way you do your voice, thenotes that people sing, a thing
like that.
It's moving a crowd.
You're an MC.
You're moving the crowd the wayyou do your voice, the notes
that people sing.
When people sing, sometimesthat shiver in your body that
they're really good.
That's a thing.
You know what I'm saying?
That's a thing for humans.
So you can do things, you cansay something, you can emphasize
(39:18):
the words, you can tell thejoke a certain different way and
it moves other people and thenyou can learn that from places
to places and then it becomes apretty damn good joke All around
, jokes that everybody can kindof like you know, get it In
certain words you use, orwhatever.
But yeah, that's just comedy.
(39:38):
I love talking about comedy.
Speaker 1 (39:41):
You alright, you okay , you okay, you okay.
So I'm going to say this righthere because we're going to end
off.
You gave a lot of gems abouteverything that you've done,
your take on comedy and your 24years of experience with a
(40:02):
comedy special and acting andfinding different lanes.
What is you okay?
Okay?
I said, don't down me because Iain't got health insurance.
What is that?
Speaker 2 (40:30):
one piece of motivational advice you can give
for any comedian or anycreative looking to get into the
industry.
Show up.
80% of this is what you do offstage.
40% is off stage.
Show up be way more likablethan you are off stage being in
the room.
You know what I'm saying.
(40:51):
Like, if there's a reason why Ilove being there, show up going
up to the mics.
If there's a reason why I'mbeing there, show up, going up
to the mics.
Fucking sucks.
Really hate doing it.
May not go through it, but it'sa mic.
(41:12):
Show the fuck up.
You don't know what's going tobe there, right?
You don't know what you'regoing to get that night.
If something's going on overthere, show the fuck up.
You know it's just what was it?
Luck is, when preparation meetsopportunity, mm-hmm.
You need to prepare for theopportunity.
(41:32):
Stay ready, so you ain't got toget ready.
Show the fuck up.
I mean a lot of it was just Befunny.
Stay ready, so you ain't got toget ready.
Show the fuck up.
I mean a lot of it was just youknow, be funny.
Be funny, by all means.
You can have.
But the thing is, in thisbusiness, man, you can have a C
plus likability and an A plusmaterial and nobody gonna want
(41:56):
to get you off.
You'll be as arrogant as funny.
You'll be a funny, arrogantmotherfucker.
But if they're not likable andhere's a couple things If you're
not likable and your materials,if you're likable and your
materials, c plus, they're gonnamove because the people like
(42:21):
you, they want to give you stuff, they want you to succeed.
You must be likable and a lotof that is showing up and just
being a part of the game.
None of it is personal, evenwhen it gets personal when
somebody looks at you and saysdon't come to this motherfucker
ever again.
Keep coming, come on.
(42:44):
It's just me.
Speaker 1 (42:49):
Sure, yeah, I say the same sentiment.
Yeah, if they want to get incontact with you, watch the
special support you, where canthey find you at?
Speaker 2 (43:03):
I'm at Theodore Comedy on everything.
Theodore Comedy it's going tobe the website.
You can have a link treeTheodore Comedy on my link tree.
You can go to the comedydynamics page.
Type in me.
My name is Theodore ME Taylor.
The comedy special is TheodoreME Taylor's Belltie Guy.
(43:24):
That's good, it's just a goodname.
But yeah, I'm Theodore Comedyon everything.
I don't have Twitter anymorebecause fuck that guy.
And I've had Instagram,facebook.
(43:47):
I'm on Twitter, I'm on TikTokas well as Facebook and that's
it.
Speaker 1 (43:57):
And if you guys want to follow me as Comedian Rome
Davis, follow the podcast page.
There's no ID podcast, butYouTube is Comedian Rome Davis,
no ID.
You can Google it, you can typeit into any type of platform,
but I also have an email list.
You can sign up and let youknow any type of shows, releases
, podcasts, episodes, youtubeupdates.
(44:19):
I can get you.
But support my man, theodoreTaylor, please, with his special
and any of his content and hisshows.
Keep supporting me and thismovement that I'm trying to
create and I appreciate you,theodore, for coming on to the
show I know it was a random.
DM hey man, you know, myalgorithm is nothing but comedy
(44:41):
and twerking and you ended up onthe comedy I got you.
It was one video and one bottleyou know what I mean, you know
what I mean.
Speaker 2 (44:52):
I happen to do comedy too.
Speaker 1 (44:57):
We support you anyway over here, you know what?
I'm saying Thank you, man.
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