July 15, 2025 • 49 mins
Kylie Kassh, professional dominatrix of 17 years and content creator, shares her journey from accidental dom to lifestyle professional in this candid conversation about power dynamics, boundaries, and the business of domination.
• Discovered her dominatrix potential when a friend noticed her naturally commanding style with boyfriends
• Began her career working in a Chicago dungeon where she trained under experienced dominatrixes
• Learned her boundaries early when confronted with medical play involving needles during her first day
• Underwent an "initiation" that confirmed her purely dominant nature when she couldn't handle being restrained
• Explains the difference between lifestyle doms, switches, and subs in the BDSM community
• Shares her favorite fetishes including flogging, cross-dressing clients, tease and denial techniques
• Owns approximately 17 floggers ranging from inexpensive to $500 specialty pieces
• Discusses the massage fetish and how it represents a natural power exchange
• Reveals many clients are married men whose partners aren't interested in exploring fetishes
• Sets firm boundaries on certain practices while maintaining others, particularly avoiding "scat play"
• Plans to continue working indefinitely as "there are no age brackets in domination"
• Maintains separate personal and professional lives while acknowledging they sometimes overlap
• Provides consulting services beyond domination work through her business ventures
If you're interested in learning more about Kylie's work, follow her on Instagram at Goddess_kylie_kassh or visit her consulting business at Kashwealthfirm.com.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to another episode
of the no id podcast.
It is me, your host, rome davis.
I am interviewing contentcreator.
Uh, good spirit, she's not thefirst one, but she's probably
gonna be the best one.
Uh, you may know her as misskitty pain.
Goddess, kylie cash.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
I just know her as kylie cash yep say hello to
kylie cash everybody hey guys,what's up for seven uppers?
Speaker 1 (00:36):
how are you feeling today?
Well, we talked about a littlebit before we recorded, but
how's your day going?
Speaker 2 (00:40):
fantastic.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
It's better than it was this weekend for me hurting
my knee on that, but I'm goodyou good yeah, if you guys don't
know, miss callie cash is acontent creator and a dominatrix
at the same sentence all around.
Uh, entrepreneur, but you know,to some people we like to say
hustler.
So I'm gonna just put, all inall, just a good yeah, and I've
(01:05):
been, I've been doing someresearch.
You were highly referred fromyour, from a business bestie
that I'm not gonna say theirname yes, I love my business
besties.
They're amazing uh, yeah, you'rethe business best.
They refer to me.
She's a great person.
Great person, great spirit.
So how long have you been inthe dominatrix game and what
(01:27):
made you start?
Speaker 2 (01:29):
oh, wow, the story behind domination.
Okay, so I've been in thedominatrix world I'm about to
age myself now so, um, it's beenabout 17 years.
Yeah, yeah, it's been about 17years.
Yeah, yeah, it's been a while.
And, um, I it is so funny how Istarted.
(01:51):
I kind of it was just a flukeactually, because I was in
school for fashion marketingmanagement and there was this
girl who was um I'm going to usethis word, even though people
say it's like um, it's not theword to use, but that's the only
word I be knowing because myold self be knowing them OG
words.
Okay, she's a trainee, right,okay, so we were really close
(02:15):
friends.
And then she would alwayslisten to me, talk to my
boyfriends on the phone, and I'dbe like who you talking to?
I don't know.
Okay, done with you and hang upright.
Or I'd be like don't you talk,I don't know who you talking to,
I, you, and hang up Right.
Or I'd be like don't you talk,I don't know who you're talking
to, I'm not your mama and I'mnot, I'm not your wife, and I
hang up.
I'd be like you're not my daddy, I don't know who you are Hang
up.
So she would like listen to me,talk to my exes like that all
(02:40):
the time.
And one day she goes.
I don't know who they thinkthey're talking to.
I mean, I don't get it.
And then so she was like youknow, you can get paid for that.
I was like wait, you wait, waita minute.
What did you say?
She was like you can get paidto talk to me like that.
I was like wait, so I can getpaid to talk to me and the way I
talk to these fools all thetime.
She was like yeah.
So I was like well, she signedme up, sign me up right now.
(03:02):
So she was like yeah.
So I was like well, she signedme up, sign me up right now.
So she was like just all yougot to do is go and look and
like Google, because Googlewasn't around, it was right
there.
Google like dungeons in yourcity and see if they're looking
for dominatrices to hire.
And that's how it started.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Yeah, so that's exactly how it started, and that
was 17 years ago yeah, and Iworked in a dungeon in chicago
and this is before social media.
So how did you get just outsideof?
How did you get yourself outthere?
Because now social media makeseverything on demand.
You got only fans and all thesemany visions of how did that?
Speaker 2 (03:44):
how did it start?
How did?
that come about so only fans hasbeen around for a very long
time.
I actually been on only fanssince they actually started.
Um, I want to say like 20 man2012, 2013 or something like
that, and back then it wasn'tlike now it was.
It was for fan base and I usedto be a model and I did modeling
(04:05):
.
So I did modeling, runway stufflike that, and so I had a fan
base and I would have toliterally tell them from Twitter
because Twitter was there andwhat was the MySpace?
Good old MySpace.
So I had to literally tell themlike hey, go to my fan site, I
will post other pictures there.
(04:27):
But there was no, there was nonudity, anything.
It was just me in swimsuit wearor implied nude, but never any
like full-blown bam in your face.
None of that, um.
But I was on there and soliterally had to like if I post
something, I have to go tellthem that I posted it so they
can go look at it.
It was crazy, but that took toomuch work, so I stopped doing
(04:50):
that for a while.
But how I got out there as a domwas, you know, we had those
magazines back in the day, youknow, after dark yeah, yeah I
had to post ads in the magazinesand then, um, you do, uh, there
had, we had some forums, butthey were like um, oh my god,
(05:15):
what was the aol forums?
Aol forums you've got mail yeah, I was on there and then like,
um, the other one is, uh,fetlife.
It's been around for a verylong time, so I was on there as
well and that's how, like,people got to know me and
realize who I was.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
So yeah, oh man.
So I remember fetlife.
Okay, I used to go on datingapps like a tag.
Tag is where I met one younglady at we're not young at the
time but I had met one at andshe was like, yeah, I'm into fat
(05:56):
life.
So I I didn't know nothingabout it, because the first time
we met up we actually argued.
We fussed, like like kick meout that, like she's invited me
over the house, kick me out thehouse.
I like got up close like yo,like you're not gonna talk to me
, reckless.
So she was like, yeah, I'm onfet life and I'm a dom and this
(06:17):
is what turns me on.
I was like, well, I'm not intothat you're like not me.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Now I mean, I'm not that way, I'm not that guy like
I'm from the hood.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
All right, we are.
I'm gonna walk away and don'tcome behind me like don't be
following me but like it it's.
It was, it was.
It was interesting because thatwas not my first experience.
I think my first experience wasI don't know if you remember
this or even know of this it wassomething called rudecom.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
I don't think so.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Rude was like my space for that.
Okay, it was like a mass basefor amateur porn.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
You will upload stuff from your cell phone.
I do remember it because alsobecause it was close it was a
lot of people went from rude toblack planet yeah the rude yes,
I remember it was wild, I waslike it was different back then
and I was 18 when I firstdiscovered it, so you can only
(07:18):
imagine yeah, I was already inmy 20s.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
I was already past when I started doming.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
I was about 24 now you said you worked at a dungeon
.
I did how was that?
How was your first experienceactually having a sub is that
(07:49):
what the proper term is?
How was that first experiencewith having a sub and did it?
Was it hard or did it geteasier as time went past?
Speaker 2 (07:57):
or so my first experience of a sub was with the
head dom, headmist mistress, inthe dungeon we worked with.
So basically they wouldn't bookme with anybody right away
because I was new and I didn'tknow anything, and so they made
me read a lot of damn booksevery day, every day.
(08:17):
I'm reading books every day.
Um, but when we had sessions,we I would have to go in with a
head dom and then she would justbasically coach me through the
session with her as her seconddom.
So we double dom.
So my first experience was theguy wanted to be spanked and
(08:39):
whipped and I didn't know what Iwas doing and she was like
you're doing good, but don't hithim there.
You're're doing good, but don'thit him there.
You're doing good, but don'thit him there.
I was like, look in my head.
I'm like, well, why am Isupposed to hit him?
Like you say, hit him.
I don't even know what I'mdoing.
Okay, so, but I got the swingof things eventually.
But then that same day we had asession that was, and she, she
(09:03):
forewarned me before I went inthere.
She was it's going to be alittle gory.
If you're, if you're not intoblood, let me know, do you faint
or anything?
We see blood.
I was like, nah, I'm good, Ican handle it.
Um, so the in this particularsession, I was, I was, I was a
little freaked out because weuse needles and we pierced his
(09:25):
man area all the way up and soshe was like this is how you do
it, this is where you do it andthis is how you do it.
Don't go further, don't go less, because you can, you can
injure him.
And they were like needles,like what you would do in
acupuncture, so they were reallysmall, but the wall, but you,
we were literally.
Yeah, it freaked me out becausesome he bled some a little bit,
(09:50):
not like out or anything.
Um, because they, they weretrained to, they know exactly
where to put it, so you don'tbleed out or anything.
But that was my first day and I,I was like I don't want to do
this part.
And if this, this, what?
Like?
I don't want to do this part.
If this is what this is, Idon't want to do this part, this
is not for me.
And she's like no, noteverybody comes in for this
(10:12):
particular client.
This is his kink.
And I was like, oh, so they allgot different kinks and then
they went into exactly a lot ofthe different kinks that
everyone goes into.
I was like, okay, well, I can'tdo this one, but we can work on
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the other ones, cause that onescared the shit out of me, I
swear, cause it's so medical andI'm like I don't like that.
I think I'm skirmish a littlebit, especially when it comes to
like piercing people.
Yeah, I can't.
That was crazy, but that waslike my first day and so
basically I was scared and likeintimidated, because these women
have so much confidence.
(10:55):
It is crazy.
Now I know I'm not a badlooking woman.
I look pretty well, right, Iknow this.
But they weren't as beautifulas me, but their confidence was
so magnificent that you couldn'ttell.
You couldn't tell.
So if they were walking aroundbefore me they would exude much
(11:16):
more beauty than I would at thattime, because their confidence
overshadowed whatever it is.
They looked like they're justlike there, so it was extremely
intimidating my whole thing islike I hear that.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
But like how do you discover a fetish?
Like, yeah, I want to bepringed on my penis, like I
don't like what, what?
What in your brain said, youknow, try this.
Yeah, you know.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
I asked them like how does he, how did he even get
into this?
And I remember distinctlybecause the one fetish that I
just can't get into and I've,you know, I pierced someone
myself their nipples, but neveranything else besides that one
time.
But I asked them like how doessomeone get into that?
Like what I think is weird.
So she said that like he has aprince albert, which is where it
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goes, like that, and so hereally wants more tattoo, more
piercings, but he doesn't wantthem permanent, so he prefers to
just get pierced with needlesbecause he likes the feeling.
The rush is a rush for him.
The feeling the rush, it's arush for him.
(12:30):
The pain is a rush, yeah, I canimagine, because I don't even
want no piercing down thereImagine.
But it was an experience, Imust say, on the first day.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
I'm day like you know what.
I think I'm gonna go to churchtomorrow, right?
Speaker 2 (12:51):
I swear.
I was like I feel like I'mdoing something so dirty and so
wrong.
Oh, but I got over that and Iwas just like, okay, can we not,
can I not do any of the medical, because I don't like medical.
But they have to put you indifferent situations and
different fetishes to see whatyour limit is, what you can
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handle and what you can't.
And even, like my first week,you go in your first week you go
through a kind of likeinitiation where you they have
to figure out whether youmentally are a sub, a switch, or
a dominant.
I am dominant, 100 percent,because I went through all the
stages of grief In less thanfive minutes, which is crazy.
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So what happened is they, they,they tied me up so I couldn't
move.
So what happened is they tiedme up so I couldn't move.
And then she had a vibrator inthat area right, and then she
blindfolded me and left me.
(14:00):
Now I swear to God, I wentthrough all the stages of grief.
I was upset, sad, crying, andthen I was trying to barter with
myself like, okay, bitch, youwon't let this, what are you
going to do?
And then I just calmed down andjust let the rest of my time go
past because there's nothingelse I could do.
And I talked to her.
She was like well, how do youfeel?
(14:20):
I was like yeah, I wanted tokill everybody up in here.
I felt like if I got out, Iwanted to kill everybody up in
here.
I felt like I wanted to.
If I got out, I wanted to killeverybody up in here.
And I was so unhappy anddistraught that I was like I
think I need to go home.
I can't do this.
She was like no, that justmeans that you are purely
dominant.
You cannot handle things uponyou.
(14:40):
You can do it, but you can'thandle it from yourself.
You're not a switch.
So if you're in a situationwhere somebody's trying to dime
you, that's just not going towork.
Then I was like well, cool, I'mstill ready to go home.
I left for the rest of the day.
I was like I got to go, I gotto go home and collect myself.
So they take you through aritual.
(15:01):
Some women and men.
They actually can handle thatand they get turned on by it and
it's invigorating for them.
It's a rush For me.
I was pure anger.
It was just pure anger Done.
So unfortunately, I'm not.
I can't switch.
My brain doesn't work like thatand I can't sub.
I can try for a little bit andthen it'll switch Like so quick
(15:27):
that I'll be like, okay, we'redone here.
I may either have to takecontrol of this or we're
finished.
We got two options yeah, yourdom.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
And a switch is one that can go in between the sub
and the dom.
Yeah, and let's say you're aswitch and you're already
dominant.
Let's say somebody's moredominant, they can make you a
sub.
Is that what I'm picking up on?
Yeah, but that's say you're aswitch and you already dominant.
Let's say somebody is moredominant, they can make you a
sub.
Is that what I'm picking up on?
Speaker 2 (15:46):
Yeah, but that's if you allow it.
Like you can you allow it.
Everything is consensual.
So some people who are moredominant than others there are a
lot of switches who prefer tobe dominated, but they still
want their at home their partner.
They dominate their partners,but in their other life they
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have a dom who dominates them.
Or sometimes you'll have twoswitches, which is actually an
amazing combination to have twoswitches, because both of them
are comfortable being dom andboth of them are comfortable
being sub, so they can exploreso many fetishes that are crazy
extreme with each other andnever have a problem.
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But if you switch it, one ofthem gonna have a problem one of
the other, because the subdoesn't naturally, um, feel
comfortable doming anotherperson.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
So you're more subservient do you have like a
favorite sub, or do you justlike, oh it's, you know, just a
roster Do you have a favoritesub.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
I do have a fave because I have two subs.
One has been with me sincealmost day one, about 14, 15
years or so, and the other onehas been with me about five
years.
I like them both, but my onethat's been with me the longest,
he's my favorite.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
Does that get like being a dominatrix and being
recognized online?
Does that get in the way oflike your personal life?
Let's just say hypothetically,man, be like.
You know I want to take you outfor drinks.
Do you oil?
Maybe a sub might be like youknow.
What I just want to get to knowmiss kitty, pain like god.
Is kylie cash for the behindthe personas is.
Does that get in the way?
Is that a little awkward?
Because I'm pretty sure dudesbe shooting their shots.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
They do shoot their shot.
It doesn't get in the way forme.
It does get in the way for thembecause they can't decipher who
they're dealing with.
Like a lot of guys willapproach me and they have no
idea that I am how I am and Idon't really put it out there
either because my normal life ismy normal life.
I just but I am a lifestyle domversus just procession.
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So in my whole entire life I amdominant for the most part, but
not controlling.
So when I do discuss, when Imeet new people and they're like
oh my God, I like you, I'lljust candidly be like yeah, but
I'm a dominatrix.
I don't know if you like methat much and they'd be like did
you just say that?
And I'm like yes, I did.
(18:27):
And so a lot of times it turnsthem off and then they're like
well, you can't, I'm not tryingto have this and this and this
done to me, and I'm not tryingto have this and this and this
done to me.
And I'm just like nobody said Iwould do that, but good to know
.
But it's a sub coming to me andhe's like oh, let's say, one of
my subs that's a client and hewants to like, date me.
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I kind of draw the line withthat nowadays because it's kind
of like you don't date work,don't date people you work with.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
I try to.
My dad used to say don't stickyour dick in the paycheck.
That's what he used to tell me.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
That's right, exactly so.
I don't mess around with mysubs like that and all my subs.
There's no sexual intercourseat all, zero sexual.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
There's no sexual intercourse at all, zero.
So, like me personally, Iwouldn't have a problem dating
with a dominatrix, because I'mnot in that life.
Right, I wouldn't have aproblem.
Uh, I wouldn't have a problemwith her being in that life,
because I'm like well shit rightright it ain't gonna be me
right the only problem I think Iwould have.
Who was at a fan and reunionthat brung you to?
(19:44):
And somebody like, oh, I just Iwas in the dungeon.
Like too, I'm like hey, hey,hey bro like yo.
You know that was the lady I wastelling you about I was telling
you about it boy, you gottakeep a boy, oh my gosh, that's
(20:07):
awesome.
That would be so funny, thoughI think I'm like hey, everybody,
if y'all don't know, this is myold lady right here.
Uh, I need to write that downin my jokes.
I'm sorry, that was actuallypretty decent.
I was just going out to heronly fan.
She told me she loved me.
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I think it's part of the gamut,bro, chill out.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
Now I have been places with my friends and a
couple of people have recognizedme and they're like, and I just
be like, are you going to saysomething?
Because if you are, you alreadyknow it's going to be about you
.
I don't think you want to sayanything say something yeah hey,
I know you.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
Oh man, I had the acupuncture on your penis two
days ago.
Oh, wait, wait, wait.
I had the acupuncture on yourpenis two days ago.
Oh wait, wait, wait.
I'm with my wife.
Told her I was out of town.
That's where the money beengoing at, god damn it.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
That's okay.
And you know, the craziest partis a lot of people who come to
me, a lot of men who to me theyare married.
So I have to be very cautiousand I ask them all are you
married?
Do you have a girlfriend?
Do you live with them?
Do you have kids?
Like, I need to know theseparameters so that I know right
or not.
Whatever I'm gonna do, I can'tleave marks.
Or I can't leave marks like howdo they feel about that?
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Because depending on wherethey're going and what they're
doing in their life, they maynot be able to have marks shown.
So I have to be like okay, whatdo you live alone?
Are you single?
Are you married?
Do you have kids?
Do you do anything that youhave to show your body parts?
No, okay, cool.
So you pull with marks andthey're usually like, yeah, as
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long as they don't last too long, okay better get some aloe vera
plant or something right thataftercare, the aftercare is
important.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
That's crazy.
I forget well about that.
Y'all see her cracking jokeslike a mug and for the people
listening and watching, I'mstill stuck on the whole
acupuncture of the penis.
I'm like yeah right, yeah, it'scrazy, it is crazy I know I
know I have a friend that's inthe foot fetish industry and a
(22:26):
lot of married men come to herbecause either they want but
don't want, they toes sucked orthey don't have pretty feet.
But they got a good personalityand I was like, oh, that makes
yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
Yeah, makes sense.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
That makes sense.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
It's the same with them going to a dom, because
most of the time I ask all of myclients like, okay, so how does
your mate feel about this?
They don't do this for you athome.
Can they do anything?
And they're like no, they'rejust vanilla, they don't do
anything.
We've tried and they don't likeit.
I just seek it out elsewhere.
I'm like okay, that makes sense.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
Is there a fetish where you draw the line at?
I know it's like you gotfinancial kinks.
You got puppy, animal, puppydressed up like an animal.
You got the scat.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
I draw a line right there Sc, scat.
I can't do golden showers.
I can't, scat is no showers.
Yes, it's insane.
It's insane, golden showers yesyeah, I can get those, but I
can't do scat like that's.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
That's gross so they like make a recommendation.
Like I want you to dance awhole thing a red bull and just
pour ammonia on me when you'repeeing, like have you ever?
Speaker 2 (23:48):
that's a good one, though I've never heard that one
.
No, no.
But I've had somebody ask meput in a glass, um, I've had
somebody ask me to put in theice, like make ice out of it so
they can put it in ice cubes andput it in a drink, or whatever.
I've had people just want itJust on their chest or on their
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face, but I just hover over.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
So you had the basketball court with your
homies.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
Let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let
me, let me um, let me get, letme get, let me get, let me get,
let me get, let me get, let meget, let me get, let me get, let
me get, let me get, let me get,let me get, let me get let me
(24:39):
get, let, yeah, oh, my favoritesubs are servants, our house
subs, okay, those are the onesthat actually they cater to me
hand and foot.
So, basically, almost whatever Ineed, whatever I want.
I just be like, hey, I need youto do this, like yesterday
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because my knee was blown.
I called myself.
I'm like, hey, I need you to gobuy my book.
I'm gonna go pick up my bookthat I've purchased and sorry,
yeah, I need, uh, ice cream,sherbert ice cream.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
So I have it here to me now so you lost me a sherbert
ice cream, that fruit ice cream, shit isn't that.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
No, I'm good it's, not even ice cream, it's sherbet
.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
You gave away your age.
Next time.
I was wondering oh, do you eatbutter pecan?
Speaker 2 (25:28):
me.
Oh, don't get me started onsuperman ice cream.
Y'all can't find that.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
Oh, no, we can't.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
You got a couple spots.
I got in.
I know two of them.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, but that's it.
You get away.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
You're a bad one.
Let me stop, because I might bein Chicago one time.
What's up you little nerdymotherfucker Are?
Speaker 2 (26:05):
we eating some sherbet today?
Oh no, out, because I might bein chicago one time.
What's your little nerdymotherfucker?
Oh no, you know, I'm not tootolerant I can't even hang
rainbow cone.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
Let's go.
Do you can plan on content,because you've been doing this
17 years.
You're like a vet at this point, right yeah, you plan on I am.
Are you planning on doing whatLeBron doing and playing until
you're just like, oh, I'm done?
Speaker 2 (26:22):
I don't plan on retiring ever.
I don't actually believe inretirement.
I believe in just refocusingand readjusting lifestyle versus
retirement Retirement.
I think that you're just goingto ask them, so I won't know all
that.
I'm good, so yeah, I plan onkeeping it up until I can.
(26:43):
There's no age brackets indomination, so there are really
really old people and youngpeople and they they still feel
they're kinks somewhere somewhat.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
So somebody Meemaw is out there right now.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
Yeah, I seen one last week when I was at the dungeon
too.
I was like, okay, just makesure y'all don't play with no
electric stuff.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
I'd probably be like hey, my granddaughter couldn't
upload this photo onto myOnlyFans.
Can you do it for me?
Do it, I can't forget my Wi-Fipassword.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
That's the crazy.
But you it's so funny becausethey have the best toys, the
best toys like you.
I'd be like where you, whereyou find that?
Oh, girl, I bought this like 10years, 20 years ago.
I'm like they don't even makethese toys anymore.
This lady had the mostbeautiful vlogger I've ever seen
.
I like where did you get this?
She was like girl, I boughtthis like 10, 20 years ago.
(27:41):
They don't even make them likethat anymore.
It was like leather and it waslike alligator skin on the
handle.
It had all the other leather.
She said it was bison and itwas cowhide, like bison and cow
leather.
It was so pretty and heavy andI was, oh my god, it's beautiful
(28:02):
she probably ordered it througha catalog or something.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
I know amazon wasn't around when she was around back
then, she didn't.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
She didn't have somebody make that one, they
made it she went to the searscatalog.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
Yeah, page 37 yes, damn yeah, damn, I know, I had
one young.
Yeah, I had let me before I gointo.
I know that, especially sincethe pandemic, only fans was
taking off because it was moreinteractive, and I live in
virginia, where anything withthe word porn is banned online.
(28:35):
We can't search porn hubs.
I don't know how it is whereyou at, but I knew only fans was
really starting to pop and yousaw a lot of people of age
ranges 18 and up eithersubscribing or making money off
of.
One was paying, one was gettingpaid um so I can see where the
(28:57):
older lady at that had theextravagant flogger and all that
was coming from.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
Amazing, but she's been in the game for years.
She was in the game when shewas in her 20s and she was like
60s.
She had to be 60, close to 70,because she looked old.
I couldn't imagine well be likeyou when I get older?
Yes, I do this.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
Oh man, what kinks and fetishes are you into, and
do they cross over to yourregular life?
Or do you just like you knowwhat?
I only do this in the dungeon.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
Um, I won't take this too yeah, that's that yeah so
one of my favorite fetishes orkinks is flogging.
I absolutely love it.
I own about 17 of them,different styles, different
leathers, from cheap to $500 forthe vloggers my favorite, I
(30:06):
love it to the core.
Some of the other kinks andfetishes I get into is I really
like cross-dressing because Ilike dressing them up so they
look like my girlfriends and wejust hang out and have girl time
.
And then I enjoy Tease andDenial.
It's one of my highest.
(30:26):
I'm like an expert in tease,100%.
And then my other kinks.
I have a money fetish and thenmy other kinks.
I have a money fetish.
I don't know when I start, butwhen it did it was amazing and
still is to this day.
And I have a shoe fetish.
So between my shoes and mymoney, they be like together,
(30:48):
because I keep buying shoes,even though I got over 200 pairs
and they're all heels that I'mtalking about, not my gym shoes
or my other shoes.
Those are probably like 15pairs of those, but the 200 is
like heels, all heels.
And then I love the.
I absolutely love the massagefetish.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
What's the massage fetish Is that when you're
getting a massage or they'regetting a massage.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
They get a massage.
So the reality is is that mostpeople, most people, don't think
like this, right, but wheneveryou're on that massage table,
you give away all of yourcontrol to that masseuse.
So the masseuse is in controlof you, so you can control your
body movements.
You can control your body likethe pressure any you know.
She can actually paralyze youif she really wanted to.
(31:34):
But why would anybody do that?
Nobody would do that, right,right, but at the end of the day
, she's in control of your bodyand you're completely naked and
she's not.
So you're being 100% dominatedby this individual.
But most normal people not likethe fetish world.
Don't think of it that way, butreality, that's exactly how it
(31:57):
is.
Um, don't think of it that way,but reality, that's exactly how
it is.
So I enjoy taking all thecontrol away from individuals on
my table at all times, so it'sfantastic I know, when I was 18
was a weird year for me, I'msorry.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
2007 was like oh, I'm grown, I'm out of high school,
I could do what I want to do.
I actually started um, I don'tknow if it is a fetish.
I started dating older women,like maybe 40 and up, and I was
dating an older woman not dating, we were just messing around
(32:36):
yeah, just measuring.
Yeah, just having fun, like I.
I love that she couldn't get aperiod I could just call up
anytime I wanted to okay, youwant to hang out?
Yeah, let's go it was like wedidn't even go out.
It was just like oh, I'm at thehouse, oh, come on through and
then it was experimentation withum massage because she did on
(32:58):
the massage she had a massagetable in her her room and I'm
sharing this with these folks.
I don't know, people probablythink I'm capping.
I probably said it on theprevious episode, but at that
same time I was on rude and Ithink I just had like a little
avatar emoji with afro andwhatever and uh and mass bait.
(33:21):
There was like an animated dude, but it was like real buff, he
had tattoos on it.
It was just a fake image orwhatever and I couldn't do
nothing because I didn't uploadanything yeah, so I was like I
just was going to there to watchand, um, she was older and this
(33:42):
is so older woman rudecom.
And then, uh, mass space, massspace.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
Used to have have some videos yeah, that you
wanted to be up there.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
Yeah, I remember that it was a.
It was one up there that I justcouldn't stop watching.
She was, I guess she was likein a dungeon or something and
all she did was just barefootand I was like, well, I want to
try it with the older woman.
I tried it with her and I gotinto the foot thing a little bit
and then what I had like wewere saying earlier, women,
(34:21):
girls, my age wasn't into that,but the older women were- yeah
and then when we all got older,then they got into I'm like,
what the hell was this at?
Speaker 2 (34:31):
back, when you were younger, looking for it yeah, I
was looking for it, it wasunderground it was underground,
yeah, and I was like what thehell?
Speaker 1 (34:40):
and I got two pounds.
Yeah, I paid.
I paid for the um the pedicureyeah that shit did not work.
I was like, oh okay, it wasn'tuntil I actually hooked up with
one that was a model and I waslike, oh, this is what I've been
missing.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
But you know, it is what it is.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
Yeah, the massage row has a very.
There's a line between the twoand it's a pretty thick line too
.
It is a pretty thick line butwithin that there's so many
things that you can do when youcan join fetish and massage
(35:22):
together.
So I actually do at timesbondage, where I do bondage and
massage at the same time.
So basically, my clients willbe tied up and I'll use either I
use floggers, paddles, um icewell, I just use ice packs
(35:42):
because I have this, theselittle ice packs, because it's
cold and they stay in thefreezer and it's easy to clean
um, I also use candles for theheat and, um, it's basically, uh
, sensory deposition the wholetime.
So a light feather, somewhipping here and there, but
it's nothing heavy, it's alllight and it's all just for
(36:04):
stimulation and massage at thesame time.
It's a bond massage.
So when you can join it too,it's a crazy, amazing experience
.
Your body goes into a totallydifferent realm I've had
massages um, so I know it.
Oh god I think about adding anextra to a massage nah, yeah so
(36:31):
much fun.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
It's amazing you know what, maybe one day.
Yeah, you know, my gas tank ranout.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
It's kind of like you know, when you get a massage
and they use their nails on youinstead of just the hands and
they lightly scratch you.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
I never had that part .
I had somebody step on my back.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
I'm like what.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
No, you need that.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
That's next level.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
I'm not next level, I just tell jokes.
I just tell jokes, and then I'mlike I'm good, you know what I
mean.
I just tell jokes.
I go to work, I go to the gym,I do my interviews, I read, and
that's it.
You know what I mean.
Like, I just tell jokes.
I go to work, I go to the gym,I do my interviews, I read, and
that's it.
You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 2 (37:20):
like the next level, the next book.
What are we?
What?
Speaker 1 (37:23):
are we doing?
You know, like my biggest fearis some of that stuff is like
maybe I record a video orsomething and like I was talking
about the family room, like dog, I just saw Rome the other day
drinking piss out of a Gatoradebottle.
Speaker 2 (37:38):
I'm like okay that would be hilarious you know
black people.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
I actually never fear that ever you know, black
people, we make a nickname aboutanything.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
What's up, pissy bruh yes, that is so true you brush
your teeth this morning?
Speaker 1 (38:01):
yeah, I brushed them.
Your teeth still a littleyellow.
I guess you didn't drink enoughwater.
You know we don't roastanything, so I'm sorry oh my
gosh, yeah, I never.
Speaker 2 (38:11):
So I swear I never, uh, think about it.
Maybe it's because I used to bea dancer back in my younger
years for like 10 years straightand I had to come to the
realization that somebody mightcome in and see me.
So how I just rearrange that inmy head is, if they come in
here and be like oh, I'm goingto tell people what you do, and
my rebuttal is I'm going to tellthem that you pay for it.
(38:32):
Would you like the fact thatyou came in them doors?
You saw me, you paid for it.
Or are you going to tell themthat I didn't?
I mean, either way it goes, weboth going to be under fire.
So yours going to be worse,though, because you paid for it.
So that's why I don't everworry.
So when people be like aren'tyou afraid your daughter's going
(39:01):
to find out that I'm like look,she don't find out one way or
another for one, because sheknows you like that, and stuff.
For two, if she found out, thatsounds like a her problem, I
have to coax her through how tofigure out how to run through
life about how things work onthat platform.
So don't be nosy.
But also I'm like well, theonly way she find out honestly
if somebody told her, and if Ifind out who told her, I'm just
(39:22):
gonna tell her how, how theyfound out true, somebody did
tell her it's probably herfriends and her friends so that
means her parents what you wanthmm, hmm watch it and you
watching me there's a millionout there you watching me.
You paid for it becauseeverything I got out there is
(39:43):
for sale, not for free.
Speaker 1 (39:48):
I can only imagine that.
I know you watched it big, butyou see no school shoes on your
feet.
Jimmy's mama paid for that lastweek funny, funny.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
You say that she actually because back in the day
I used to be a cam girl and sheused to be super nosy.
She's always had her owncomputer and everything, but she
wanted to be a mommy's computer.
So she went on my computer andshe saw my webcam stuff.
So one day she says mommy, whydo you be on that webcam doing
that stuff?
I said the same reason why Igot to pay for you to go to
school.
Somebody got to put a foot onthis table.
(40:23):
Your daddy ain't doing it.
I don't know what we're doinghere.
We live alone, I don't know.
After that she stopped askingme.
She didn't stop going to mycomputer, but she stopped asking
me.
Speaker 1 (40:34):
but she didn't stop going to my computer, but she
stopped asking me, she stoppedasking you stop asking me yeah,
I want to bring you back on Iknow, that sounds crazy but I
want to bring.
I want to do a two-part to thisbecause for the people that's
listening, I gotta leave them ona suspense all right you did
say massage, yeah, and we talkedabout.
(40:56):
I've been trying to yes I'mtrying, I don't know I
appreciate that yeah, I wanna.
I wanna make sure I comecorrect, because the last thing
I want to do is bring anythingyeah ill to what you got going
on, but this has definitely beeninteresting.
I can't wait.
(41:16):
Here's the fuck.
Here's the crazy thing about itis.
I tell my mom who I interviewand we was when you me, you was
communicating.
He's like you have a variety ofguests.
Yes, I do.
I go from a comedian to a pornstar, to a rapper, to a wrestler
, to a top about something.
Anytime I feel like I don'tknow why I do that shit, but it
works it's entertaining and it'sworking.
Speaker 2 (41:37):
It's amazing it is, and those conversations would be
pretty darn good oh well, thankyou.
Speaker 1 (41:44):
Thank you, you're welcome.
You almost talked the drawersoff me.
I'm just kidding, it's justjokes, these jokes, these uh I'm
not into that at all, so I'veever seen you bring it out.
I'm like I hope she's likefanning the fly.
I'm not I'm okay.
(42:05):
Oh my gosh, I love it I onlyhad one woman trying to do that,
flogging, spanking shit to me,and I looked at her like I know
you joking because when I'mlactose intolerant, so I don't
know what's going on back therehalf the day.
Speaker 2 (42:23):
What is that I ate pasta.
Speaker 1 (42:28):
You got me laying on my stomach.
I'm I'm ready to go home.
It's got the cheese sweats inthis bitch.
I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (42:35):
Come on, Jess.
Speaker 1 (42:41):
You can't process that.
I can't eat that butter pecan.
That's why I got mad with youabout sherbet, because I'm like,
and you've been drinking thatlittle smoothie, I'm like, I'm
jealous as hell right now.
Speaker 2 (42:50):
Oh, there's no milk in this.
This is all non-dairy, which isgreat, okay, yeah, no milk in
this this is all non-dairy,which is great, okay yeah, thank
god, but I need that proteinbecause I need gotta recover
(43:14):
fruit, fruit, fruit.
I got um, what's that other onewith all the seeds in it?
I forgot it's yellow.
Oh, dragon fruit and somegrapes.
I got all that good stuff I'mold school.
Speaker 1 (43:32):
I just got strawberries.
Speaker 2 (43:37):
I'm trying to cleanse it all out.
I'm like okay, you just got toeat fresh fruit, you got to keep
switching it up.
Still got some cucumbers andtomatoes.
Speaker 1 (43:45):
You know you get to a certain age, you got to start
stretching in the morning beforeyou start your day.
Speaker 2 (43:49):
Gee, I know I'm learning.
God dang it these same knees,baby.
I tell you, boy, I don't knowmy age, I be thinking I'm 26 and
my body be like no, you bettermultiply that.
Speaker 1 (44:06):
Multiply the numbers, your body be waving the white
flag.
Hey, hey, slow down, I'mcatching up right now like stop
swinging that flag too hard.
You know our back might go outhey, angle it a little bit,
don't put so much on theshoulder, turn it all over use
(44:30):
them hips.
We need some exercise you get toa certain age, you be like you
know what this shit ain't for me.
I was on the treadmill thismorning.
I was like usually I do about45 minutes.
I was looking at that shit andshe said, oh, you got 20 minutes
left.
I was like emergency stop.
I think today is not my day.
Today I can do 45.
I can do this thing.
I said today was like anemergency stop.
(44:52):
I said I'm gonna go upstairsand lift.
I got upstairs, everything wasclear.
I said I'm going to go upstairsand lift.
I got upstairs, everything wasclear.
I said this is too good to betrue.
I'm going to go sit my ass upin the sun and read the
newspaper and shower.
We're going to call it a day.
Speaker 2 (45:03):
Yeah, it'd be like that.
I was supposed to do 100kettlebells, I was like 20.
We're done.
I mean we're done.
I don't know what's up my hips,my back, my knee.
Speaker 1 (45:14):
God, sometimes I go to the gym just to get a
playlist.
Speaker 2 (45:17):
That's what it is.
Yeah, but ooh, that song soundsgood.
Hold on, Shazam.
Speaker 1 (45:23):
Yes, I got my new music.
How is?
Speaker 2 (45:29):
it.
Hold on.
I got Shazam, hold on.
You be like this Look for theapp.
Wait, okay, wait Wrong app,hold on, okay.
Oh, I got the last of that song.
I got it, I got it.
Speaker 1 (45:42):
You be up.
I be up at the gym just likethis with Shazam.
Speaker 2 (45:45):
Hey, please don't listen to people over here.
Speaker 1 (45:50):
Speak over here.
Speaker 2 (45:51):
Okay, all right, let me go to the bathroom real quick
.
It's quiet.
I can hear the Speak over here.
Okay, all right, let me go tothe bathroom real quick.
It's quiet.
Speaker 1 (46:00):
I can hear the music.
I want to be a YN so bad.
But I got to have bloodpressure.
I'm not trying to raise up.
Speaker 2 (46:04):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (46:07):
Man, but I do appreciate the interview and I
definitely appreciate the time.
I don't know if I was beingworrisome in the text messages
and the DMs.
I just had to confirmeverything on one of them people
.
But if anybody wants to, let mejust say this.
I got a lot of mail and berespectful if you decide to
(46:31):
slide in her DMs, because Idon't send no wiener shots no,
no don't get disrespectful youwant back?
exactly, and she probably gotlike a bunch of them in the
hidden gallery somewhere yes, Ido so just calm the fuck down
(46:54):
and if you do decide to shootyour shot, be prepared for
what's about to come with it andbe respectful when you shoot
your shot.
Take her out to dinner orsomething.
Let her build up and don't gostraight, like she said.
Hey, so you're a dominatrix?
I want to try this, but let'sgo ahead and go get this
applebee's right quick.
Shut the fuck up.
Speaker 2 (47:10):
Like that ain't gonna work, buddy, that ain't gonna
work.
Like, yeah, we can, can goApplebee's.
I'll take the rest of us inyour wallet and then we'll have
a good time.
Thanks.
Speaker 1 (47:20):
I went out with one domination.
I was like, oh man, it's kindof expensive.
She called her sub up and waslike, yeah, I need $500.
I was like, oh, the meals ain'tgonna be nothing but like $65.
She said, don't worry about it.
Speaker 2 (47:34):
That's how it is, yep .
Speaker 1 (47:37):
Damn.
Speaker 2 (47:39):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (47:42):
Well, if they want to follow you or see any more of
your content, how can they?
Speaker 2 (47:46):
Of course.
So you can follow me on myInstagram the one that's working
now.
The other one is shut down.
They don't like me anymore, butyou can go to Goddess
S-g-o-d-e-s-s uh, underscorekylie cash k-y-l-i-e-k-a-s-s-h,
because, remember, I like allthe money.
(48:08):
That's why it's two s's.
That's right.
Yeah, exactly, but if you wantlike I, but if you want like I
say if you want to be consultingor anything, because I do have
other stuff that I have going on.
As far as like consulting firm,when it comes to finding a new
(48:29):
business or something like that,you can always catch me there,
or you can catch me on my otherpage.
It is Cash K-A-S-S-H.
We page, it is cash k-a-s-s-h.
Wealth w-e-a-l-t-h firm f-i-r-m.
Speaker 1 (48:41):
And that's on instagram and a dot com
definitely, and you know youguys can follow me comedian rome
, all social media platforms,comedian rome davis on youtube
and no id podcast.
You can google no id podcast.
We on every streaming platformout there that I can think of,
even on the african ones.
I don't know how I got there.
(49:04):
Somebody told me I had an unclethat has the left me three
million dollars and I was like,oh, sign me up.
So I'm just kidding, but uh, wesigning out.
I really do appreciate theinterview and, like I said, I
gotta bring you in for part twobecause we got other stuff that
we got to talk about.
So, yeah, this is your season.
Speaker 2 (49:21):
Awesome, I'm so grateful.
Thank you for having me and Ican't wait to the next one and I
can't wait to talk to everyoneout there and just DM me, just
DM me, I'm easy to talk to.
Speaker 1 (49:32):
Exactly, and.
ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to another episode
of the no id podcast.
It is me, your host, rome davis.
I am interviewing contentcreator.
Uh, good spirit, she's not thefirst one, but she's probably
gonna be the best one.
Uh, you may know her as misskitty pain.
Goddess, kylie cash.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
I just know her as kylie cash yep say hello to
kylie cash everybody hey guys,what's up for seven uppers?
Speaker 1 (00:36):
how are you feeling today?
Well, we talked about a littlebit before we recorded, but
how's your day going?
Speaker 2 (00:40):
fantastic.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
It's better than it was this weekend for me hurting
my knee on that, but I'm goodyou good yeah, if you guys don't
know, miss callie cash is acontent creator and a dominatrix
at the same sentence all around.
Uh, entrepreneur, but you know,to some people we like to say
hustler.
So I'm gonna just put, all inall, just a good yeah, and I've
(01:05):
been, I've been doing someresearch.
You were highly referred fromyour, from a business bestie
that I'm not gonna say theirname yes, I love my business
besties.
They're amazing uh, yeah, you'rethe business best.
They refer to me.
She's a great person.
Great person, great spirit.
So how long have you been inthe dominatrix game and what
(01:27):
made you start?
Speaker 2 (01:29):
oh, wow, the story behind domination.
Okay, so I've been in thedominatrix world I'm about to
age myself now so, um, it's beenabout 17 years.
Yeah, yeah, it's been about 17years.
Yeah, yeah, it's been a while.
And, um, I it is so funny how Istarted.
(01:51):
I kind of it was just a flukeactually, because I was in
school for fashion marketingmanagement and there was this
girl who was um I'm going to usethis word, even though people
say it's like um, it's not theword to use, but that's the only
word I be knowing because myold self be knowing them OG
words.
Okay, she's a trainee, right,okay, so we were really close
(02:15):
friends.
And then she would alwayslisten to me, talk to my
boyfriends on the phone, and I'dbe like who you talking to?
I don't know.
Okay, done with you and hang upright.
Or I'd be like don't you talk,I don't know who you talking to,
I, you, and hang up Right.
Or I'd be like don't you talk,I don't know who you're talking
to, I'm not your mama and I'mnot, I'm not your wife, and I
hang up.
I'd be like you're not my daddy, I don't know who you are Hang
up.
So she would like listen to me,talk to my exes like that all
(02:40):
the time.
And one day she goes.
I don't know who they thinkthey're talking to.
I mean, I don't get it.
And then so she was like youknow, you can get paid for that.
I was like wait, you wait, waita minute.
What did you say?
She was like you can get paidto talk to me like that.
I was like wait, so I can getpaid to talk to me and the way I
talk to these fools all thetime.
She was like yeah.
So I was like well, she signedme up, sign me up right now.
(03:02):
So she was like yeah.
So I was like well, she signedme up, sign me up right now.
So she was like just all yougot to do is go and look and
like Google, because Googlewasn't around, it was right
there.
Google like dungeons in yourcity and see if they're looking
for dominatrices to hire.
And that's how it started.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Yeah, so that's exactly how it started, and that
was 17 years ago yeah, and Iworked in a dungeon in chicago
and this is before social media.
So how did you get just outsideof?
How did you get yourself outthere?
Because now social media makeseverything on demand.
You got only fans and all thesemany visions of how did that?
Speaker 2 (03:44):
how did it start?
How did?
that come about so only fans hasbeen around for a very long
time.
I actually been on only fanssince they actually started.
Um, I want to say like 20 man2012, 2013 or something like
that, and back then it wasn'tlike now it was.
It was for fan base and I usedto be a model and I did modeling
(04:05):
.
So I did modeling, runway stufflike that, and so I had a fan
base and I would have toliterally tell them from Twitter
because Twitter was there andwhat was the MySpace?
Good old MySpace.
So I had to literally tell themlike hey, go to my fan site, I
will post other pictures there.
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But there was no, there was nonudity, anything.
It was just me in swimsuit wearor implied nude, but never any
like full-blown bam in your face.
None of that, um.
But I was on there and soliterally had to like if I post
something, I have to go tellthem that I posted it so they
can go look at it.
It was crazy, but that took toomuch work, so I stopped doing
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that for a while.
But how I got out there as a domwas, you know, we had those
magazines back in the day, youknow, after dark yeah, yeah I
had to post ads in the magazinesand then, um, you do, uh, there
had, we had some forums, butthey were like um, oh my god,
(05:15):
what was the aol forums?
Aol forums you've got mail yeah, I was on there and then like,
um, the other one is, uh,fetlife.
It's been around for a verylong time, so I was on there as
well and that's how, like,people got to know me and
realize who I was.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
So yeah, oh man.
So I remember fetlife.
Okay, I used to go on datingapps like a tag.
Tag is where I met one younglady at we're not young at the
time but I had met one at andshe was like, yeah, I'm into fat
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life.
So I I didn't know nothingabout it, because the first time
we met up we actually argued.
We fussed, like like kick meout that, like she's invited me
over the house, kick me out thehouse.
I like got up close like yo,like you're not gonna talk to me
, reckless.
So she was like, yeah, I'm onfet life and I'm a dom and this
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is what turns me on.
I was like, well, I'm not intothat you're like not me.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Now I mean, I'm not that way, I'm not that guy like
I'm from the hood.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
All right, we are.
I'm gonna walk away and don'tcome behind me like don't be
following me but like it it's.
It was, it was.
It was interesting because thatwas not my first experience.
I think my first experience wasI don't know if you remember
this or even know of this it wassomething called rudecom.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
I don't think so.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Rude was like my space for that.
Okay, it was like a mass basefor amateur porn.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
You will upload stuff from your cell phone.
I do remember it because alsobecause it was close it was a
lot of people went from rude toblack planet yeah the rude yes,
I remember it was wild, I waslike it was different back then
and I was 18 when I firstdiscovered it, so you can only
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imagine yeah, I was already inmy 20s.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
I was already past when I started doming.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
I was about 24 now you said you worked at a dungeon
.
I did how was that?
How was your first experienceactually having a sub is that
(07:49):
what the proper term is?
How was that first experiencewith having a sub and did it?
Was it hard or did it geteasier as time went past?
Speaker 2 (07:57):
or so my first experience of a sub was with the
head dom, headmist mistress, inthe dungeon we worked with.
So basically they wouldn't bookme with anybody right away
because I was new and I didn'tknow anything, and so they made
me read a lot of damn booksevery day, every day.
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I'm reading books every day.
Um, but when we had sessions,we I would have to go in with a
head dom and then she would justbasically coach me through the
session with her as her seconddom.
So we double dom.
So my first experience was theguy wanted to be spanked and
(08:39):
whipped and I didn't know what Iwas doing and she was like
you're doing good, but don't hithim there.
You're're doing good, but don'thit him there.
You're doing good, but don'thit him there.
I was like, look in my head.
I'm like, well, why am Isupposed to hit him?
Like you say, hit him.
I don't even know what I'mdoing.
Okay, so, but I got the swingof things eventually.
But then that same day we had asession that was, and she, she
(09:03):
forewarned me before I went inthere.
She was it's going to be alittle gory.
If you're, if you're not intoblood, let me know, do you faint
or anything?
We see blood.
I was like, nah, I'm good, Ican handle it.
Um, so the in this particularsession, I was, I was, I was a
little freaked out because weuse needles and we pierced his
(09:25):
man area all the way up and soshe was like this is how you do
it, this is where you do it andthis is how you do it.
Don't go further, don't go less, because you can, you can
injure him.
And they were like needles,like what you would do in
acupuncture, so they were reallysmall, but the wall, but you,
we were literally.
Yeah, it freaked me out becausesome he bled some a little bit,
(09:50):
not like out or anything.
Um, because they, they weretrained to, they know exactly
where to put it, so you don'tbleed out or anything.
But that was my first day and I,I was like I don't want to do
this part.
And if this, this, what?
Like?
I don't want to do this part.
If this is what this is, Idon't want to do this part, this
is not for me.
And she's like no, noteverybody comes in for this
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particular client.
This is his kink.
And I was like, oh, so they allgot different kinks and then
they went into exactly a lot ofthe different kinks that
everyone goes into.
I was like, okay, well, I can'tdo this one, but we can work on
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the other ones, cause that onescared the shit out of me, I
swear, cause it's so medical andI'm like I don't like that.
I think I'm skirmish a littlebit, especially when it comes to
like piercing people.
Yeah, I can't.
That was crazy, but that waslike my first day and so
basically I was scared and likeintimidated, because these women
have so much confidence.
(10:55):
It is crazy.
Now I know I'm not a badlooking woman.
I look pretty well, right, Iknow this.
But they weren't as beautifulas me, but their confidence was
so magnificent that you couldn'ttell.
You couldn't tell.
So if they were walking aroundbefore me they would exude much
(11:16):
more beauty than I would at thattime, because their confidence
overshadowed whatever it is.
They looked like they're justlike there, so it was extremely
intimidating my whole thing islike I hear that.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
But like how do you discover a fetish?
Like, yeah, I want to bepringed on my penis, like I
don't like what, what?
What in your brain said, youknow, try this.
Yeah, you know.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
I asked them like how does he, how did he even get
into this?
And I remember distinctlybecause the one fetish that I
just can't get into and I've,you know, I pierced someone
myself their nipples, but neveranything else besides that one
time.
But I asked them like how doessomeone get into that?
Like what I think is weird.
So she said that like he has aprince albert, which is where it
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goes, like that, and so hereally wants more tattoo, more
piercings, but he doesn't wantthem permanent, so he prefers to
just get pierced with needlesbecause he likes the feeling.
The rush is a rush for him.
The feeling the rush, it's arush for him.
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The pain is a rush, yeah, I canimagine, because I don't even
want no piercing down thereImagine.
But it was an experience, Imust say, on the first day.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
I'm day like you know what.
I think I'm gonna go to churchtomorrow, right?
Speaker 2 (12:51):
I swear.
I was like I feel like I'mdoing something so dirty and so
wrong.
Oh, but I got over that and Iwas just like, okay, can we not,
can I not do any of the medical, because I don't like medical.
But they have to put you indifferent situations and
different fetishes to see whatyour limit is, what you can
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handle and what you can't.
And even, like my first week,you go in your first week you go
through a kind of likeinitiation where you they have
to figure out whether youmentally are a sub, a switch, or
a dominant.
I am dominant, 100 percent,because I went through all the
stages of grief In less thanfive minutes, which is crazy.
(13:39):
So what happened is they, they,they tied me up so I couldn't
move.
So what happened is they tiedme up so I couldn't move.
And then she had a vibrator inthat area right, and then she
blindfolded me and left me.
(14:00):
Now I swear to God, I wentthrough all the stages of grief.
I was upset, sad, crying, andthen I was trying to barter with
myself like, okay, bitch, youwon't let this, what are you
going to do?
And then I just calmed down andjust let the rest of my time go
past because there's nothingelse I could do.
And I talked to her.
She was like well, how do youfeel?
(14:20):
I was like yeah, I wanted tokill everybody up in here.
I felt like if I got out, Iwanted to kill everybody up in
here.
I felt like I wanted to.
If I got out, I wanted to killeverybody up in here.
And I was so unhappy anddistraught that I was like I
think I need to go home.
I can't do this.
She was like no, that justmeans that you are purely
dominant.
You cannot handle things uponyou.
(14:40):
You can do it, but you can'thandle it from yourself.
You're not a switch.
So if you're in a situationwhere somebody's trying to dime
you, that's just not going towork.
Then I was like well, cool, I'mstill ready to go home.
I left for the rest of the day.
I was like I got to go, I gotto go home and collect myself.
So they take you through aritual.
(15:01):
Some women and men.
They actually can handle thatand they get turned on by it and
it's invigorating for them.
It's a rush For me.
I was pure anger.
It was just pure anger Done.
So unfortunately, I'm not.
I can't switch.
My brain doesn't work like thatand I can't sub.
I can try for a little bit andthen it'll switch Like so quick
(15:27):
that I'll be like, okay, we'redone here.
I may either have to takecontrol of this or we're
finished.
We got two options yeah, yourdom.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
And a switch is one that can go in between the sub
and the dom.
Yeah, and let's say you're aswitch and you're already
dominant.
Let's say somebody's moredominant, they can make you a
sub.
Is that what I'm picking up on?
Yeah, but that's say you're aswitch and you already dominant.
Let's say somebody is moredominant, they can make you a
sub.
Is that what I'm picking up on?
Speaker 2 (15:46):
Yeah, but that's if you allow it.
Like you can you allow it.
Everything is consensual.
So some people who are moredominant than others there are a
lot of switches who prefer tobe dominated, but they still
want their at home their partner.
They dominate their partners,but in their other life they
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have a dom who dominates them.
Or sometimes you'll have twoswitches, which is actually an
amazing combination to have twoswitches, because both of them
are comfortable being dom andboth of them are comfortable
being sub, so they can exploreso many fetishes that are crazy
extreme with each other andnever have a problem.
(16:32):
But if you switch it, one ofthem gonna have a problem one of
the other, because the subdoesn't naturally, um, feel
comfortable doming anotherperson.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
So you're more subservient do you have like a
favorite sub, or do you justlike, oh it's, you know, just a
roster Do you have a favoritesub.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
I do have a fave because I have two subs.
One has been with me sincealmost day one, about 14, 15
years or so, and the other onehas been with me about five
years.
I like them both, but my onethat's been with me the longest,
he's my favorite.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
Does that get like being a dominatrix and being
recognized online?
Does that get in the way oflike your personal life?
Let's just say hypothetically,man, be like.
You know I want to take you outfor drinks.
Do you oil?
Maybe a sub might be like youknow.
What I just want to get to knowmiss kitty, pain like god.
Is kylie cash for the behindthe personas is.
Does that get in the way?
Is that a little awkward?
Because I'm pretty sure dudesbe shooting their shots.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
They do shoot their shot.
It doesn't get in the way forme.
It does get in the way for thembecause they can't decipher who
they're dealing with.
Like a lot of guys willapproach me and they have no
idea that I am how I am and Idon't really put it out there
either because my normal life ismy normal life.
I just but I am a lifestyle domversus just procession.
(18:07):
So in my whole entire life I amdominant for the most part, but
not controlling.
So when I do discuss, when Imeet new people and they're like
oh my God, I like you, I'lljust candidly be like yeah, but
I'm a dominatrix.
I don't know if you like methat much and they'd be like did
you just say that?
And I'm like yes, I did.
(18:27):
And so a lot of times it turnsthem off and then they're like
well, you can't, I'm not tryingto have this and this and this
done to me, and I'm not tryingto have this and this and this
done to me.
And I'm just like nobody said Iwould do that, but good to know
.
But it's a sub coming to me andhe's like oh, let's say, one of
my subs that's a client and hewants to like, date me.
(18:51):
I kind of draw the line withthat nowadays because it's kind
of like you don't date work,don't date people you work with.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
I try to.
My dad used to say don't stickyour dick in the paycheck.
That's what he used to tell me.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
That's right, exactly so.
I don't mess around with mysubs like that and all my subs.
There's no sexual intercourseat all, zero sexual.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
There's no sexual intercourse at all, zero.
So, like me personally, Iwouldn't have a problem dating
with a dominatrix, because I'mnot in that life.
Right, I wouldn't have aproblem.
Uh, I wouldn't have a problemwith her being in that life,
because I'm like well shit rightright it ain't gonna be me
right the only problem I think Iwould have.
Who was at a fan and reunionthat brung you to?
(19:44):
And somebody like, oh, I just Iwas in the dungeon.
Like too, I'm like hey, hey,hey bro like yo.
You know that was the lady I wastelling you about I was telling
you about it boy, you gottakeep a boy, oh my gosh, that's
(20:07):
awesome.
That would be so funny, thoughI think I'm like hey, everybody,
if y'all don't know, this is myold lady right here.
Uh, I need to write that downin my jokes.
I'm sorry, that was actuallypretty decent.
I was just going out to heronly fan.
She told me she loved me.
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I think it's part of the gamut,bro, chill out.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
Now I have been places with my friends and a
couple of people have recognizedme and they're like, and I just
be like, are you going to saysomething?
Because if you are, you alreadyknow it's going to be about you
.
I don't think you want to sayanything say something yeah hey,
I know you.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
Oh man, I had the acupuncture on your penis two
days ago.
Oh, wait, wait, wait.
I had the acupuncture on yourpenis two days ago.
Oh wait, wait, wait.
I'm with my wife.
Told her I was out of town.
That's where the money beengoing at, god damn it.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
That's okay.
And you know, the craziest partis a lot of people who come to
me, a lot of men who to me theyare married.
So I have to be very cautiousand I ask them all are you
married?
Do you have a girlfriend?
Do you live with them?
Do you have kids?
Like, I need to know theseparameters so that I know right
or not.
Whatever I'm gonna do, I can'tleave marks.
Or I can't leave marks like howdo they feel about that?
(21:33):
Because depending on wherethey're going and what they're
doing in their life, they maynot be able to have marks shown.
So I have to be like okay, whatdo you live alone?
Are you single?
Are you married?
Do you have kids?
Do you do anything that youhave to show your body parts?
No, okay, cool.
So you pull with marks andthey're usually like, yeah, as
(21:54):
long as they don't last too long, okay better get some aloe vera
plant or something right thataftercare, the aftercare is
important.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
That's crazy.
I forget well about that.
Y'all see her cracking jokeslike a mug and for the people
listening and watching, I'mstill stuck on the whole
acupuncture of the penis.
I'm like yeah right, yeah, it'scrazy, it is crazy I know I
know I have a friend that's inthe foot fetish industry and a
(22:26):
lot of married men come to herbecause either they want but
don't want, they toes sucked orthey don't have pretty feet.
But they got a good personalityand I was like, oh, that makes
yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
Yeah, makes sense.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
That makes sense.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
It's the same with them going to a dom, because
most of the time I ask all of myclients like, okay, so how does
your mate feel about this?
They don't do this for you athome.
Can they do anything?
And they're like no, they'rejust vanilla, they don't do
anything.
We've tried and they don't likeit.
I just seek it out elsewhere.
I'm like okay, that makes sense.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
Is there a fetish where you draw the line at?
I know it's like you gotfinancial kinks.
You got puppy, animal, puppydressed up like an animal.
You got the scat.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
I draw a line right there Sc, scat.
I can't do golden showers.
I can't, scat is no showers.
Yes, it's insane.
It's insane, golden showers yesyeah, I can get those, but I
can't do scat like that's.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
That's gross so they like make a recommendation.
Like I want you to dance awhole thing a red bull and just
pour ammonia on me when you'repeeing, like have you ever?
Speaker 2 (23:48):
that's a good one, though I've never heard that one
.
No, no.
But I've had somebody ask meput in a glass, um, I've had
somebody ask me to put in theice, like make ice out of it so
they can put it in ice cubes andput it in a drink, or whatever.
I've had people just want itJust on their chest or on their
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face, but I just hover over.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
So you had the basketball court with your
homies.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
Let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let
me, let me um, let me get, letme get, let me get, let me get,
let me get, let me get, let meget, let me get, let me get, let
me get, let me get, let me get,let me get, let me get let me
(24:39):
get, let, yeah, oh, my favoritesubs are servants, our house
subs, okay, those are the onesthat actually they cater to me
hand and foot.
So, basically, almost whatever Ineed, whatever I want.
I just be like, hey, I need youto do this, like yesterday
(24:59):
because my knee was blown.
I called myself.
I'm like, hey, I need you to gobuy my book.
I'm gonna go pick up my bookthat I've purchased and sorry,
yeah, I need, uh, ice cream,sherbert ice cream.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
So I have it here to me now so you lost me a sherbert
ice cream, that fruit ice cream, shit isn't that.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
No, I'm good it's, not even ice cream, it's sherbet
.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
You gave away your age.
Next time.
I was wondering oh, do you eatbutter pecan?
Speaker 2 (25:28):
me.
Oh, don't get me started onsuperman ice cream.
Y'all can't find that.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
Oh, no, we can't.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
You got a couple spots.
I got in.
I know two of them.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, but that's it.
You get away.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
You're a bad one.
Let me stop, because I might bein Chicago one time.
What's up you little nerdymotherfucker Are?
Speaker 2 (26:05):
we eating some sherbet today?
Oh no, out, because I might bein chicago one time.
What's your little nerdymotherfucker?
Oh no, you know, I'm not tootolerant I can't even hang
rainbow cone.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
Let's go.
Do you can plan on content,because you've been doing this
17 years.
You're like a vet at this point, right yeah, you plan on I am.
Are you planning on doing whatLeBron doing and playing until
you're just like, oh, I'm done?
Speaker 2 (26:22):
I don't plan on retiring ever.
I don't actually believe inretirement.
I believe in just refocusingand readjusting lifestyle versus
retirement Retirement.
I think that you're just goingto ask them, so I won't know all
that.
I'm good, so yeah, I plan onkeeping it up until I can.
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There's no age brackets indomination, so there are really
really old people and youngpeople and they they still feel
they're kinks somewhere somewhat.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
So somebody Meemaw is out there right now.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
Yeah, I seen one last week when I was at the dungeon
too.
I was like, okay, just makesure y'all don't play with no
electric stuff.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
I'd probably be like hey, my granddaughter couldn't
upload this photo onto myOnlyFans.
Can you do it for me?
Do it, I can't forget my Wi-Fipassword.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
That's the crazy.
But you it's so funny becausethey have the best toys, the
best toys like you.
I'd be like where you, whereyou find that?
Oh, girl, I bought this like 10years, 20 years ago.
I'm like they don't even makethese toys anymore.
This lady had the mostbeautiful vlogger I've ever seen
.
I like where did you get this?
She was like girl, I boughtthis like 10, 20 years ago.
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They don't even make them likethat anymore.
It was like leather and it waslike alligator skin on the
handle.
It had all the other leather.
She said it was bison and itwas cowhide, like bison and cow
leather.
It was so pretty and heavy andI was, oh my god, it's beautiful
(28:02):
she probably ordered it througha catalog or something.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
I know amazon wasn't around when she was around back
then, she didn't.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
She didn't have somebody make that one, they
made it she went to the searscatalog.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
Yeah, page 37 yes, damn yeah, damn, I know, I had
one young.
Yeah, I had let me before I gointo.
I know that, especially sincethe pandemic, only fans was
taking off because it was moreinteractive, and I live in
virginia, where anything withthe word porn is banned online.
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We can't search porn hubs.
I don't know how it is whereyou at, but I knew only fans was
really starting to pop and yousaw a lot of people of age
ranges 18 and up eithersubscribing or making money off
of.
One was paying, one was gettingpaid um so I can see where the
(28:57):
older lady at that had theextravagant flogger and all that
was coming from.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
Amazing, but she's been in the game for years.
She was in the game when shewas in her 20s and she was like
60s.
She had to be 60, close to 70,because she looked old.
I couldn't imagine well be likeyou when I get older?
Yes, I do this.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
Oh man, what kinks and fetishes are you into, and
do they cross over to yourregular life?
Or do you just like you knowwhat?
I only do this in the dungeon.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
Um, I won't take this too yeah, that's that yeah so
one of my favorite fetishes orkinks is flogging.
I absolutely love it.
I own about 17 of them,different styles, different
leathers, from cheap to $500 forthe vloggers my favorite, I
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love it to the core.
Some of the other kinks andfetishes I get into is I really
like cross-dressing because Ilike dressing them up so they
look like my girlfriends and wejust hang out and have girl time
.
And then I enjoy Tease andDenial.
It's one of my highest.
(30:26):
I'm like an expert in tease,100%.
And then my other kinks.
I have a money fetish and thenmy other kinks.
I have a money fetish.
I don't know when I start, butwhen it did it was amazing and
still is to this day.
And I have a shoe fetish.
So between my shoes and mymoney, they be like together,
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because I keep buying shoes,even though I got over 200 pairs
and they're all heels that I'mtalking about, not my gym shoes
or my other shoes.
Those are probably like 15pairs of those, but the 200 is
like heels, all heels.
And then I love the.
I absolutely love the massagefetish.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
What's the massage fetish Is that when you're
getting a massage or they'regetting a massage.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
They get a massage.
So the reality is is that mostpeople, most people, don't think
like this, right, but wheneveryou're on that massage table,
you give away all of yourcontrol to that masseuse.
So the masseuse is in controlof you, so you can control your
body movements.
You can control your body likethe pressure any you know.
She can actually paralyze youif she really wanted to.
(31:34):
But why would anybody do that?
Nobody would do that, right,right, but at the end of the day
, she's in control of your bodyand you're completely naked and
she's not.
So you're being 100% dominatedby this individual.
But most normal people not likethe fetish world.
Don't think of it that way, butreality, that's exactly how it
(31:57):
is.
Um, don't think of it that way,but reality, that's exactly how
it is.
So I enjoy taking all thecontrol away from individuals on
my table at all times, so it'sfantastic I know, when I was 18
was a weird year for me, I'msorry.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
2007 was like oh, I'm grown, I'm out of high school,
I could do what I want to do.
I actually started um, I don'tknow if it is a fetish.
I started dating older women,like maybe 40 and up, and I was
dating an older woman not dating, we were just messing around
(32:36):
yeah, just measuring.
Yeah, just having fun, like I.
I love that she couldn't get aperiod I could just call up
anytime I wanted to okay, youwant to hang out?
Yeah, let's go it was like wedidn't even go out.
It was just like oh, I'm at thehouse, oh, come on through and
then it was experimentation withum massage because she did on
(32:58):
the massage she had a massagetable in her her room and I'm
sharing this with these folks.
I don't know, people probablythink I'm capping.
I probably said it on theprevious episode, but at that
same time I was on rude and Ithink I just had like a little
avatar emoji with afro andwhatever and uh and mass bait.
(33:21):
There was like an animated dude, but it was like real buff, he
had tattoos on it.
It was just a fake image orwhatever and I couldn't do
nothing because I didn't uploadanything yeah, so I was like I
just was going to there to watchand, um, she was older and this
(33:42):
is so older woman rudecom.
And then, uh, mass space, massspace.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
Used to have have some videos yeah, that you
wanted to be up there.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
Yeah, I remember that it was a.
It was one up there that I justcouldn't stop watching.
She was, I guess she was likein a dungeon or something and
all she did was just barefootand I was like, well, I want to
try it with the older woman.
I tried it with her and I gotinto the foot thing a little bit
and then what I had like wewere saying earlier, women,
(34:21):
girls, my age wasn't into that,but the older women were- yeah
and then when we all got older,then they got into I'm like,
what the hell was this at?
Speaker 2 (34:31):
back, when you were younger, looking for it yeah, I
was looking for it, it wasunderground it was underground,
yeah, and I was like what thehell?
Speaker 1 (34:40):
and I got two pounds.
Yeah, I paid.
I paid for the um the pedicureyeah that shit did not work.
I was like, oh okay, it wasn'tuntil I actually hooked up with
one that was a model and I waslike, oh, this is what I've been
missing.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
But you know, it is what it is.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
Yeah, the massage row has a very.
There's a line between the twoand it's a pretty thick line too
.
It is a pretty thick line butwithin that there's so many
things that you can do when youcan join fetish and massage
(35:22):
together.
So I actually do at timesbondage, where I do bondage and
massage at the same time.
So basically, my clients willbe tied up and I'll use either I
use floggers, paddles, um icewell, I just use ice packs
(35:42):
because I have this, theselittle ice packs, because it's
cold and they stay in thefreezer and it's easy to clean
um, I also use candles for theheat and, um, it's basically, uh
, sensory deposition the wholetime.
So a light feather, somewhipping here and there, but
it's nothing heavy, it's alllight and it's all just for
(36:04):
stimulation and massage at thesame time.
It's a bond massage.
So when you can join it too,it's a crazy, amazing experience
.
Your body goes into a totallydifferent realm I've had
massages um, so I know it.
Oh god I think about adding anextra to a massage nah, yeah so
(36:31):
much fun.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
It's amazing you know what, maybe one day.
Yeah, you know, my gas tank ranout.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
It's kind of like you know, when you get a massage
and they use their nails on youinstead of just the hands and
they lightly scratch you.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
I never had that part .
I had somebody step on my back.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
I'm like what.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
No, you need that.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
That's next level.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
I'm not next level, I just tell jokes.
I just tell jokes, and then I'mlike I'm good, you know what I
mean.
I just tell jokes.
I go to work, I go to the gym,I do my interviews, I read, and
that's it.
You know what I mean.
Like, I just tell jokes.
I go to work, I go to the gym,I do my interviews, I read, and
that's it.
You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 2 (37:20):
like the next level, the next book.
What are we?
What?
Speaker 1 (37:23):
are we doing?
You know, like my biggest fearis some of that stuff is like
maybe I record a video orsomething and like I was talking
about the family room, like dog, I just saw Rome the other day
drinking piss out of a Gatoradebottle.
Speaker 2 (37:38):
I'm like okay that would be hilarious you know
black people.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
I actually never fear that ever you know, black
people, we make a nickname aboutanything.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
What's up, pissy bruh yes, that is so true you brush
your teeth this morning?
Speaker 1 (38:01):
yeah, I brushed them.
Your teeth still a littleyellow.
I guess you didn't drink enoughwater.
You know we don't roastanything, so I'm sorry oh my
gosh, yeah, I never.
Speaker 2 (38:11):
So I swear I never, uh, think about it.
Maybe it's because I used to bea dancer back in my younger
years for like 10 years straightand I had to come to the
realization that somebody mightcome in and see me.
So how I just rearrange that inmy head is, if they come in
here and be like oh, I'm goingto tell people what you do, and
my rebuttal is I'm going to tellthem that you pay for it.
(38:32):
Would you like the fact thatyou came in them doors?
You saw me, you paid for it.
Or are you going to tell themthat I didn't?
I mean, either way it goes, weboth going to be under fire.
So yours going to be worse,though, because you paid for it.
So that's why I don't everworry.
So when people be like aren'tyou afraid your daughter's going
(39:01):
to find out that I'm like look,she don't find out one way or
another for one, because sheknows you like that, and stuff.
For two, if she found out, thatsounds like a her problem, I
have to coax her through how tofigure out how to run through
life about how things work onthat platform.
So don't be nosy.
But also I'm like well, theonly way she find out honestly
if somebody told her, and if Ifind out who told her, I'm just
(39:22):
gonna tell her how, how theyfound out true, somebody did
tell her it's probably herfriends and her friends so that
means her parents what you wanthmm, hmm watch it and you
watching me there's a millionout there you watching me.
You paid for it becauseeverything I got out there is
(39:43):
for sale, not for free.
Speaker 1 (39:48):
I can only imagine that.
I know you watched it big, butyou see no school shoes on your
feet.
Jimmy's mama paid for that lastweek funny, funny.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
You say that she actually because back in the day
I used to be a cam girl and sheused to be super nosy.
She's always had her owncomputer and everything, but she
wanted to be a mommy's computer.
So she went on my computer andshe saw my webcam stuff.
So one day she says mommy, whydo you be on that webcam doing
that stuff?
I said the same reason why Igot to pay for you to go to
school.
Somebody got to put a foot onthis table.
(40:23):
Your daddy ain't doing it.
I don't know what we're doinghere.
We live alone, I don't know.
After that she stopped askingme.
She didn't stop going to mycomputer, but she stopped asking
me.
Speaker 1 (40:34):
but she didn't stop going to my computer, but she
stopped asking me, she stoppedasking you stop asking me yeah,
I want to bring you back on Iknow, that sounds crazy but I
want to bring.
I want to do a two-part to thisbecause for the people that's
listening, I gotta leave them ona suspense all right you did
say massage, yeah, and we talkedabout.
(40:56):
I've been trying to yes I'mtrying, I don't know I
appreciate that yeah, I wanna.
I wanna make sure I comecorrect, because the last thing
I want to do is bring anythingyeah ill to what you got going
on, but this has definitely beeninteresting.
I can't wait.
(41:16):
Here's the fuck.
Here's the crazy thing about itis.
I tell my mom who I interviewand we was when you me, you was
communicating.
He's like you have a variety ofguests.
Yes, I do.
I go from a comedian to a pornstar, to a rapper, to a wrestler
, to a top about something.
Anytime I feel like I don'tknow why I do that shit, but it
works it's entertaining and it'sworking.
Speaker 2 (41:37):
It's amazing it is, and those conversations would be
pretty darn good oh well, thankyou.
Speaker 1 (41:44):
Thank you, you're welcome.
You almost talked the drawersoff me.
I'm just kidding, it's justjokes, these jokes, these uh I'm
not into that at all, so I'veever seen you bring it out.
I'm like I hope she's likefanning the fly.
I'm not I'm okay.
(42:05):
Oh my gosh, I love it I onlyhad one woman trying to do that,
flogging, spanking shit to me,and I looked at her like I know
you joking because when I'mlactose intolerant, so I don't
know what's going on back therehalf the day.
Speaker 2 (42:23):
What is that I ate pasta.
Speaker 1 (42:28):
You got me laying on my stomach.
I'm I'm ready to go home.
It's got the cheese sweats inthis bitch.
I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (42:35):
Come on, Jess.
Speaker 1 (42:41):
You can't process that.
I can't eat that butter pecan.
That's why I got mad with youabout sherbet, because I'm like,
and you've been drinking thatlittle smoothie, I'm like, I'm
jealous as hell right now.
Speaker 2 (42:50):
Oh, there's no milk in this.
This is all non-dairy, which isgreat, okay, yeah, no milk in
this this is all non-dairy,which is great, okay yeah, thank
god, but I need that proteinbecause I need gotta recover
(43:14):
fruit, fruit, fruit.
I got um, what's that other onewith all the seeds in it?
I forgot it's yellow.
Oh, dragon fruit and somegrapes.
I got all that good stuff I'mold school.
Speaker 1 (43:32):
I just got strawberries.
Speaker 2 (43:37):
I'm trying to cleanse it all out.
I'm like okay, you just got toeat fresh fruit, you got to keep
switching it up.
Still got some cucumbers andtomatoes.
Speaker 1 (43:45):
You know you get to a certain age, you got to start
stretching in the morning beforeyou start your day.
Speaker 2 (43:49):
Gee, I know I'm learning.
God dang it these same knees,baby.
I tell you, boy, I don't knowmy age, I be thinking I'm 26 and
my body be like no, you bettermultiply that.
Speaker 1 (44:06):
Multiply the numbers, your body be waving the white
flag.
Hey, hey, slow down, I'mcatching up right now like stop
swinging that flag too hard.
You know our back might go outhey, angle it a little bit,
don't put so much on theshoulder, turn it all over use
(44:30):
them hips.
We need some exercise you get toa certain age, you be like you
know what this shit ain't for me.
I was on the treadmill thismorning.
I was like usually I do about45 minutes.
I was looking at that shit andshe said, oh, you got 20 minutes
left.
I was like emergency stop.
I think today is not my day.
Today I can do 45.
I can do this thing.
I said today was like anemergency stop.
(44:52):
I said I'm gonna go upstairsand lift.
I got upstairs, everything wasclear.
I said I'm going to go upstairsand lift.
I got upstairs, everything wasclear.
I said this is too good to betrue.
I'm going to go sit my ass upin the sun and read the
newspaper and shower.
We're going to call it a day.
Speaker 2 (45:03):
Yeah, it'd be like that.
I was supposed to do 100kettlebells, I was like 20.
We're done.
I mean we're done.
I don't know what's up my hips,my back, my knee.
Speaker 1 (45:14):
God, sometimes I go to the gym just to get a
playlist.
Speaker 2 (45:17):
That's what it is.
Yeah, but ooh, that song soundsgood.
Hold on, Shazam.
Speaker 1 (45:23):
Yes, I got my new music.
How is?
Speaker 2 (45:29):
it.
Hold on.
I got Shazam, hold on.
You be like this Look for theapp.
Wait, okay, wait Wrong app,hold on, okay.
Oh, I got the last of that song.
I got it, I got it.
Speaker 1 (45:42):
You be up.
I be up at the gym just likethis with Shazam.
Speaker 2 (45:45):
Hey, please don't listen to people over here.
Speaker 1 (45:50):
Speak over here.
Speaker 2 (45:51):
Okay, all right, let me go to the bathroom real quick
.
It's quiet.
I can hear the Speak over here.
Okay, all right, let me go tothe bathroom real quick.
It's quiet.
Speaker 1 (46:00):
I can hear the music.
I want to be a YN so bad.
But I got to have bloodpressure.
I'm not trying to raise up.
Speaker 2 (46:04):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (46:07):
Man, but I do appreciate the interview and I
definitely appreciate the time.
I don't know if I was beingworrisome in the text messages
and the DMs.
I just had to confirmeverything on one of them people
.
But if anybody wants to, let mejust say this.
I got a lot of mail and berespectful if you decide to
(46:31):
slide in her DMs, because Idon't send no wiener shots no,
no don't get disrespectful youwant back?
exactly, and she probably gotlike a bunch of them in the
hidden gallery somewhere yes, Ido so just calm the fuck down
(46:54):
and if you do decide to shootyour shot, be prepared for
what's about to come with it andbe respectful when you shoot
your shot.
Take her out to dinner orsomething.
Let her build up and don't gostraight, like she said.
Hey, so you're a dominatrix?
I want to try this, but let'sgo ahead and go get this
applebee's right quick.
Shut the fuck up.
Speaker 2 (47:10):
Like that ain't gonna work, buddy, that ain't gonna
work.
Like, yeah, we can, can goApplebee's.
I'll take the rest of us inyour wallet and then we'll have
a good time.
Thanks.
Speaker 1 (47:20):
I went out with one domination.
I was like, oh man, it's kindof expensive.
She called her sub up and waslike, yeah, I need $500.
I was like, oh, the meals ain'tgonna be nothing but like $65.
She said, don't worry about it.
Speaker 2 (47:34):
That's how it is, yep .
Speaker 1 (47:37):
Damn.
Speaker 2 (47:39):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (47:42):
Well, if they want to follow you or see any more of
your content, how can they?
Speaker 2 (47:46):
Of course.
So you can follow me on myInstagram the one that's working
now.
The other one is shut down.
They don't like me anymore, butyou can go to Goddess
S-g-o-d-e-s-s uh, underscorekylie cash k-y-l-i-e-k-a-s-s-h,
because, remember, I like allthe money.
(48:08):
That's why it's two s's.
That's right.
Yeah, exactly, but if you wantlike I, but if you want like I
say if you want to be consultingor anything, because I do have
other stuff that I have going on.
As far as like consulting firm,when it comes to finding a new
(48:29):
business or something like that,you can always catch me there,
or you can catch me on my otherpage.
It is Cash K-A-S-S-H.
We page, it is cash k-a-s-s-h.
Wealth w-e-a-l-t-h firm f-i-r-m.
Speaker 1 (48:41):
And that's on instagram and a dot com
definitely, and you know youguys can follow me comedian rome
, all social media platforms,comedian rome davis on youtube
and no id podcast.
You can google no id podcast.
We on every streaming platformout there that I can think of,
even on the african ones.
I don't know how I got there.
(49:04):
Somebody told me I had an unclethat has the left me three
million dollars and I was like,oh, sign me up.
So I'm just kidding, but uh, wesigning out.
I really do appreciate theinterview and, like I said, I
gotta bring you in for part twobecause we got other stuff that
we got to talk about.
So, yeah, this is your season.
Speaker 2 (49:21):
Awesome, I'm so grateful.
Thank you for having me and Ican't wait to the next one and I
can't wait to talk to everyoneout there and just DM me, just
DM me, I'm easy to talk to.
Speaker 1 (49:32):
Exactly, and.
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